I love how this is like a Part 2 and the facts are straight. What do I mean by that? Being reached by Andre's camp to help correct some of the 'rumors' in the first video means that your channel is recognized as a Prince community that has some real reach when it comes to fans! Great content!
Im glad you cleared this up. I didn't know too much about Andre Cymone, but I knew that him and Prince were best friends, thick as thieves like brothers. I did hear in one of Prince's first tv interviews were he talks about meeting Andre at a club and asking him about doing the song Dance Electric. It seems like everything was all to the good. Their versions sound very similar. They were so connected musically and personally, that I understand that friends drift apart and things happen but Andre got to do his own thing and Prince got to do his. Prince still called Andre his best friend. I saw part of an interview Andre did last year and he said nothing but great things about him. They are family 4 life.
But, Dre didn't see his name on Albums( Prince, Dirty Mind, and Controversy). Also, he didn't like the fact that Prince was getting rich and he was getting nothing for his contributions.
Ok, there was a falling out between, Prince and Andre after he left the band. In an interview, Andre said he hadn’t talked to Prince in years and that when he heard that his mom was in the hospital (Ms. Anderson) Prince, Mayte and Larry Graham came to the hospital. They met in the elevator and Prince said are we ok . Andre laughed and said yeah. Andre Cymone story changes so much. I also remember him saying that he purchased Prince first guitar and that was a lie. I’m really done with hearing his made up events. At the end of the day, Prince drive and hard work helped him become the legend that he will always be.
I think the only way the lies are gonna stop is for everyone to sit down all together at the “truth table.” *Prince’s dad bought him his first guitar. I was there. He parked his car in front of my house at 927 Sheridan Avenue North and gave it to him. Peace- #Justice4cuz
@Chazz You still wearing that dirty wife beater, hoop earrings and a du-rag??! You’ve been bitter forever. I looked up to y’all because it appeared that you were a lifelong friend, you were just hanging on waiting for any opportunity. Every time Andre came home you were there talking bad about Prince. Andre just wanted to hoop with his old friends Chazz & Jackson (Terry Jackson). Who am I… I’m the little Red head kid that was always with Andre (Pops) I’m all grown up now. Guess what CUZ… I use to DJ at Paisley Park & Pops had nothing to do with it 😎 Jive Turkey
So happy you've done this counter video disputing the other one you did. You show fairness and compassion in setting the record straight.👏 That's why i didn't comment on the other one but this coming from Andre is what i heard in his numerous interviews over the years. I heard the 1st one in 2014 and it was superb. A very fair and reasonable statement to make is that Andre said didn't actively listen to Prince's music after he left his band. It's only natural because he would be doing his own thing it's probably fair to say that Prince didn't listen to Andre's stuff either as he was busy doing HIS own thing. Even the great Susan Rogers had said that she hasn't listened Prince music after she'd left and many of his Associates would say exactly the same thing it's a very natural thing. There are those die-hard farms that never stop listening to Prince which is excellent but does not diminish at all the fact that others have not heard everything that Prince has put out publicly. Andre and Prince have a deep connection that no-one else had. Probably not even Tyka. I hope to read Andre's considered coherent story of he and Prince one day and maybe we will all meet in the middle. Richest blessings to you and fam 💜
Thank you for making this video to clear up the false stories regarding Prince and Andre. Both men may have had their occasional “moments” but I truly believe that there is a spiritual connection between them that will live on. Andre is a friend that now plays a large part in Prince’s legacy. There are many people that have had Prince’s back since he passed away and Andre Cymone has led the way.
Andre has been a real brother to Prince and otherwise and vice versa. Andre is a helluva musician and like Morris were glad ass happy when Prince got on because it meant their brother would call on them. These guys have made one great story and I appreciate them all.
Who from Andre Cymone's camp said the stories were wrong? Just because they say that doesn't mean they're right. Prince took advantage of Andre, Andre was hurt and talked about it in the past. He downplays it now. Don't go just by what one person from "Andre's camp" said. The words are all on record. You can't just undo the past by saying things that happened did not happen. Andre is a very classy guy and has always been the bigger man. He may say he didn't mind Prince using "Do me baby" but that isn't true. I've seen quotes from years back with Andre describing his hurt. Over the years he just realized it was pointless to argue about it and talking about it was probably causing him more backlash, so he just let it go. Especially after Prince's death, what's the point... The truth is Prince took advantage of Andre, Jesse Johnson and a lot of others. He stole "Do me baby" no question. He took Jungle Love from Jesse and left him out of the writing royalties. Both Andre and Jesse were hurt. Both downplay the damage caused now because of the time that has passed and because Prince has passed on.
This was part 2, so be sure to check out the first video. This is what André says, but like I said in the video, there’s someplace in the middle that’s the actual truth imo
As always great job, I believe why you were contacted by Andre's camp is that they see you as honest and doing a great job in as representing all things Prince. I have always been a big fan of Andre Cymone, he's a great all around musician in his own right. What I think people tend to forget is that he was also a hot producer. He put singer "Jody Watley" on the map as a solo artist after leaving Shalimar. His first solo album "Living In The New Wave" blew me away. Loved his sound, and I'm sure I've told the story before of kicking myself because I had just missed meeting him after he had done a interview at KJLH radio station in Los Angeles for his first album. Again, great job PF.
I always liked Andre, I bought all his music and after years of being out the limelight, I was glad to see him put Jody watly back on the scene...it probably was hard to be a musician and prince friend
@@GangstaMojo In a way Prince and Andre do look alike I heard back in the day it was rumor that Prince and Andre were brothers and Bernadette (Andre's mom) was pretty much a mother to Prince then his actual mother I believe she was the one who got Prince his start and when she was sick in the hospital Prince would make frequent visits to her the way how I look at it if she raised him that his mother and like Prince's family the Anderson's are from Louisiana also so they could be related
So glad to feel better now than I did after your previous video. I was very sad that there was a falling out between Andre and Prince. Two stellar people - am happy that they were happy!
So if you hadn’t put out your video, Andre’s camp might have never felt compelled to set the record straight in an official, public way through your channel. A combination of the two videos are about the best we’ll ever get to understanding their complicated friendship.
Thank you for clarifying the relationship between Andre and Prince. I still believe when Prince was starting out, he was in it for himself and was not afraid to step on someone toes. But yes, I 💜 the outcome from this story. Unfortunately and its much worse now, the media reports fake news whether it be in politics, entertainment, world issues and I think Prince knew that even back in the early days. Perhaps some of these stories originated from reporters so they can sell more magazine issues. I hope you have the opportunity to interview Andre! Great show!!💜💜
It is difficult to know what is really true. What I do know...Prince is a genius, I love his music and I miss him. That is my truth and what really matters for me.
It's also right out of Prince's mouth, in his 86 MTV interview. And good for you for presenting the correct version of the stories. You have no idea of the twaddles people have to suffer through on the org, who just have to be right no matter what.
The only side we do not have is princes side but you did a fantastic job of bringing this great info to light and just so you know.... You were not wrong just misinformed but always professional and classy in your delivery I thoroughly enjoyed both videos!!!💜💜💜
Thanks for clarifying some of that information. I did hear that information in an interview from Andre in depth. I don't want to reiterate,but it was basically about taking someone you love like a Brother to a certain point with his career. I believe personally at the time , I know this growing up pursuing my ambitions in the Entertainment field. It's always nice having someone around who is like family. The two were practically Brothers. Andre was really conducive for Prince's moral I believe at the time. Then it was time for him to evolve. From the interviews I heard, Andre wanted to have is own experience adjacent to his venture with Prince. I'am happy that he was there for his friend. That was really generous of him,looking out for his buddy. It's never easy to put aside your vision for yourself to support. When you know your potential,or better said have your own ambitions. Anyway, great to hear you set the record straight. Now that's keeping it real with your viewers. Prince would even respect that.
Prince and the time dissed andre like you said on the part of "walk", "we don't like new wave" and prince dissed Morris's "oak tree" live in concert where prince say's he gon cut that oak tree down to a wooden leg. Lol, love them all, the time, prince, andre, the revolution and all of prince's artists and proteges.
I really think Andre was envious because when they were growing up he really thought that it was going to be be him who got signed. Andre had everything back then that Prince didn't have. A family, a house to live in, supportive parents. Prince didn't have all those things but he had the talent. Andre had some talent but not like Prince and I think he to this day resents the fact that Prince made it farther than him.
Thank u for the interview, glad to know now all the rumors about Andre and Prince are cleared up, your channel is very much on point and gets to the truth about the MPLS sound, have all of Andre Cymone music from 1982 to now, including the Girls CD, which I used to have the vinyl too he produced in 1984, always thought Andre and Prince was like brothers , the Dawn is here, welcome to the dawn
Now you got some better intel, the giveaway when it comes to "Let's Work" is the bass line that wasn't Princes style. Andre is a nice bass player just listen to some of the bass lines he laid for Jody Watley!
I would need to hear Prince's end of this story in order to fairly analyze this. Many musicians hire people for creative input, and it becomes the musicians legal property instead of the property of the creator. I imagine there are many reasons for this business practice. According to books I have read about the music BUSINESS, I believe Andre could have had a lawyer negotiate an agreement to have ownership or compensation for his creative input. We know that Prince was a solo artist under the Warner Bros. contract and as such, it was solely he that had the responsibility for getting the recordings done, promoting the music on tour, and covering the expenses that the record company recoups from any advances. I don't believe the people backing Prince in the bands incurred any of those expenses, and probably not the responsibilities that come with it; as such, maybe they were not entitled to as much of the proceeds they would have liked to have received. Also, they may not have been entitled because whatever they created while working for Prince might have legally become the property of Prince without some written special agreement, and who knows, out of generosity, Prince may have given band members credit when he was not even legally obligated to do so. Andre says he was not hired. Instead he said Prince asked him (Andre) to join the band, but I think Andre was more of a hired musician than he thinks he was because that is the way business and music law probably viewed him. Legally, he was not an equal partner in the band or in the business end of it which would have included management, accounting, recordkeeping, legal representation, and other overhead expense or any costs incurred from running a business. As Andre stated in so many words in that interview, "the breaking point is when you start to realize how the record business works, and you start to feel you aren't being compensated or given the recognition you think you deserve". I assume, Andre did not have legal representation or a mentor to help him understand what he was getting himself into. Someone needed to advise him early on what he needed to do to look out for himself before he devoted so much of his time to Prince instead of spearheading his own career.
I have read that Andre dropped out of high school. Prince stayed and attended courses in marketing, contracts etc. given by a teacher with experience in the music business.
Thanks for clearing up inaccuracies about Andre and Prince's relationship. I was getting quite frustrated watching the last video because I'm a big fan of Prince and Andre Cymone and of that whole camp and been following him for years and I knew that that information was incorrect. What actually happened with the Time is that Morris, Prince and Andre knew each other in high school and played in a group called Champaign, that's how they met. Later on, Morris wrote a song that Prince liked which ended up being Party Up. Prince offered Morris an ultimatum, either $20,000 for the song or I'll get you a record deal and start your band. Morris opted for the latter, and this is in Morris's own words.
As always, Prince's Friend is respectful and always seeks to get to the kernel of truth, or as close and as balanced a representation of the facts...with much love too... Best wishes A p.s I'll be checking out Andre Cymone's music!
The way I see it, Prince got the deal and took his brother along with him. Also, Prince was the most driven one out the bunch. Jimmy always expressed his gratitude for the exposure that Prince gave him.
Prince and Andre were brothers forever. They were family. That is why I love your channel because of your honesty and sincerity. Thank you Prince's Friend for finding out the truth. Love you my brother. 💜🤗💜
Andre has been front & center in some of the charitable initiatives Manuela has done in honour and memory of Prince. Most notably a music room. Andre & his family took Prince in when Prince needed a place to stay for a reportedly good chunk of time. It is reported that Prince’s Mom knew whether Prince’s parents sent her money for food, but a big commitment on her part, Andre etc. I don’t think Prince would do Andre wrong at least intentionally. Prince knew Andre had a lot of stories from when he (Prince) wasn’t so famous 💜🕊
Prince had a song 4 Jesse called shockadelica and that was supposed 2 b from his 2nd album 'Shockadelica'. Jesse's got some stories about that. Plus Sonny T was in Jesse's 2nd album.
Very nicely done on updating us on what is correct and what is not. Also cool that his camp is watching your channel and took time to reach out and tell you what is true. Did you ask if Andre wouldn't mind coming on your channel?
They say any publicity is good publicity. And even tho Prince himself may not have needed it as much, as his career was already on track - it never hurts to have people wondering and talking about you.
I enjoyed your up date on Prince and Andre Cymone. I agree with you as there being a middle ground as far as their relationship goes. I did here Andre Cymone say in an interview he was going to stay with Prince for the first 3 albums only, then work on his own music.
My perception is that they lived as brothers and they had a sibling rivalry. I mean who doesn't have people in their lives that push them to be a better version of yourself and collaborate on projects? But down deep under the ego they loved each other. Prince went to the hospital when Andre's mother was very ill before she passed. Andre met Prince (with Larry Graham & their wives) on the elevator. Andre said something like, You gonna help carry these pizzas, man? 😊( he had a bunch in his arms going up to his mother's hospital room) . They smiled and Prince helped. The rest of the chatter is noise. 💜💜
Many artists both visual & performing tend to not listen or look at other artists to avoid indirect influence. My husband who is a visual artist was like that. So Andre making that choice was not unusual.
Thanks so much for the truth. I hate rumors. Andre Cymone is talented in his style of music and I can understand him not wanting to sound like Prince. He wanted his own style and Prince probably understood that. People just wanted to pit them against each other. Two talented musicians, two Brothers.
I think you did s great job with both interviews. I think Andre Cymone is a great artist and it’s possible that now with Prince gone he found peace and dropped whatever bad feelings there may have been. The truth of the matter is there was a measure of distance in what was a “brotherly” relationship. Andre wanting to do his own thing is a good enough reason to leave but hearing allegations of song stealing or not getting credit for things has been said by numerous ex members. In the way that Prince always maintained that he wrote and did everything all the time makes it most likely that some of the allegations are true. How could this bunch of very talented musicians work tirelessly together but never ever write any of the material??? Not very likely. I think back to the little song snippet about “Andre Crabtree" that Prince used a couple of times and feel like there was a reason for that. Half of these “rumor” are Prince’s fault anyway for not speaking or allowing others to speak. And I say allow because we see the minute he passed they seemed to have found their voices. At the end of the day I think it was all family with Prince and his people and we all know his family can be,....there can be grief but there is also love. And love always wins.
Wow! Thanks for correcting the info about this. But I still see Andre and prince bonding together in friendship even though they separate from each other from the band. And that they would love to collaborating w/ each other if they want to and can. But great review, brew. And thanks for sharing this insight. I give this a like and thumbs up.😄👍🏻
Thanks, that was good. Prince had a lot of really musically talented people in his camp. Many of those people at some point had to part from him and have their own musical journey & experiences apart from his. It's nice to know there wasn't any animosity between them. All of them had a lot of talent & started out young. As you age you change, your thoughts, ideas,as well as desires change. You just can't have that many talented musicians, songwriters together that just stay together forever especially starting out as teens. At some point a person has to leave the comfort of family, friends, & the familiar to make their own way, doing there own thing having their own journey. Yeah prince made it really big & I'm sure it made a lot of them think on their overall all journey with him & apart from him. If you ask each of them concerning their own musical journey's they probably wouldn't change a thing. Again thanks for the correction. Enjoyed it.
If they were "non-adversarial" that's great. Still, I think if Prince were here, he would see things a bit differently on some things. The waters get muddied over time. I do however, think Prince & Andre were brothers & had such a long history that the Brotherly love didn't just go away. It depends even now, on who you choose to believe. If Andre didn't listen to Prince's music, I would think he had to not be swayed or unintentionally be drawn in the other direction to stay focused on his own career/creations. I'm glad for the response and I Agree 100 that The Truth is probably somewhere in the middle. I do know at one point in later years, Andre was at (invited or showed up idk), at one of Prince's shows & he sat onstage & Prince introduced him by name, reminded the audience of their early connection as kids/band mates & called him a friend. When all was said & done I think they did still have love for one another as a Real friendship should. That brings Joy to my heart! Much Respect to Andre (& for his input on the first three albums which cemented Prince in my heart) & as Always PRINCELUV4EVER!!!😁🎸😚🎶
Lisa still sound hurt about that breakup she didn't want Andre to leave she ndte was doing his thing the prince thing was Andre cymone so prince Kim upsher Lisa prince all lived together
Andre wanted to be in a band, not Prince's band. Grand Central was the band. It wasn't Andre's or Prince's. It was the band. Andre didn't want for Prince he wanted to work with Prince.
In Prince's first televised interview (MTV 1985 on the set of the video America) he spoke about giving Andre the Dance Electric. According to him he ran into Andre at a discotheque and invited him to his studio the next day. Interesting how the story keeps changing. If you haven't, you should check out Jody Watley's first 2 solo albums both produced by Andre. Very funky. Minneapolis. Fu
U gotta understand when Prince had no where 2 live his partner went up 2 bat 2 move him in his home Andre mom let Prince live and go 2 school so just stop it wit the jealous bout dre shit he did jody wotley album blew the hell up remember like 2 album hot as fuck. Keeep #1thou folks
If Prince and Andre we're cool why didn't he get on stage and jam with P from time to time. I've seen many people jam with him.Something seems foul to me but I really hope that I'm wrong. Honestly you're right the truth is at the half way mark.
+K Chavez Maybe they patched things up as friends but decided that working together may not be the best thing since they just made up as friends. Let bygones be bygones and move on with their lives. Or maybe their schedules never aligned.
@@Jsimm100 That's why I said I hope I'm wrong. I didn't say work together I said jam it's a difference. P other "friends" jammed with him Morris Day,Lisa and Wendy, Sheila E. I could list more but I'm sure you get it😁💜
Still Prince can't confirm anything that anyone has said since he's passed away and it's just amazing how all these "accurate" stories come out now that he's gone. I wonder what part of his life he started with in the short memoir
Hi. I think it was his childhood. He was getting help from his younger brother Omar in remembering things that happened when they were children. I kind of find it hard to believe that Prince didn't keep a Diary /Journal at some point in his life. He was such a prolific writer and his life was so interesting and exciting. Maybe if we're lucky they'll find a journal, but at the same time I'm not sure we should invade his privacy. 💜
Prince's Friend keep doing the good work! I know it’s hard trying to bring all of the stories out, especially since our friend is gone. So, we may not have the ability to vett like we wish. But your doing a great job. Anything on the Time and the two full albums that were in the vault ??
PRINCE The Purple One 🍇 And Andre Are Friends!! PRINCE Stood For His Hits Songs Purple Rain & Party Like It's 1999/2 Zero Zero Zero-!! While Andre - Songs Hits Was 1969 And Revolution For African American Rights!!! 2 Greats Icons. R.I.P. PRINCE 🍇 🍇. Thanks My Dude For A Great Video. ( Prince Friend ) PF...
I saw Andre Cymone and most of Prince's band in a small club in NC around 1984... there were less then 100 people there. I guess ppl in NC didn't know who he was. The band even wore the same costumes like from Princes videos back then.
I get that ppl can make mistakes when reporting news on P. Granted, there are many stories out there that it's easy to get facts distorted. However (having said all that), I remain greatly disappointed in the 1st vid mainly bc the information was readily available. André did a 2+ hours interview w/Michael Dean and crew in @podcastjuice some yrs back and in 2016 after P passed away speaking very candidly this very subject. They are all really was excellent interviews! André was forthcoming and totally straight up abt why he left the band and about his own ambitions in developing his own music career. Also, I heard André do a live interview at Celebration 2017 (the year The Revolution performed) speaking again about this very subject and meeting O in school. Again, another great interview! Another issue w/ your video is I really thought André's involvement in the early years has been minimized; my man really got short changed! Mrs. Anderson's influence in support of Grand Central (and her direct involvement in supporting Prince for that matter) were grossly minimized. Again, check out Michael Dean's interview w/André Cymone and an interview w/a Minneapolis biographer, who went all in on Mrs. Anderson's role in the Uptown community and beyond. I really got schooled on this generous and ambitious woman! Did you know that Mrs. Anderson was so loved and highly respected that Prince went to visit her in the hospital shortly before she passed away? Word has it that P rarely (if ever) was known to make hospital visits. ( I don't claim to know anything!) Again, Andre lovingly recounts the details of this visit on @podcastjuice Again, super dope interview. No disrespect to you bc I feel that you do fab work overall. Your André vid should not detract from the totality of your work. Admittedly, I was disappointed on the André piece (but over it now) . I'm just glad that André's camp responded and your retractions were prompt. My man seems like a super, cool dude and deserves not to be reduced to just a footnote in the early P years and involvement in Minneapolis sound. Sorry 4 the rant. Still support your show!
So he went out and created his own thing that sounded just like Prince music come on we know those first three albums were by Prince just like the first two Time albums listen to Andre's work today it sounds nothing similar to his early work and you look at Princess whole body of work and you know it all belongs to him Andre has changed drastically from his early Music Prince even though he's very versatile always maintained his signature Andres first three albums are Prince's signature
Nice update. Andre was a real friend of Prince, he’s modest and I’m sure he would have wanted Prince to move onwards without him and for himself to have his independence. They were too similar to stick together, it just wouldn’t have worked in the long run. I’m sure as with all “brothers” as such, they were bound to have their differences at times.
One other thing, I've been in the entertainment industry since a kid. The studio stuff bands and friends jamming has been around for years. Sly Stone would listen for something he liked and record it, George Clinton did it it gets to the point where you don't know if that's you or not. They also did it with Jimi he would be so high all of it wasn't magic. That's enough I don't kiss and tell!
Andre wants to spin it to make it sound more pleasant than the break up actually was. Andre did a real detailed interview in Rock magazine bab back in 1984.
Andre didn't want to be in Prince's band in the first place. Prince really wanted him to be in his band. Andre's plan was to leave after dirty mind from the beginning. Watch Paul Peterson's blog where he interviews Andrew. This is what Andre said out of his mouth.
I love and understand the full weight of respect that you have for the sacredness of the truth of their relationship that this is the first time I've ever seen you nervous. Lol truth on my brother! PS still waiting on that 1969 review.!!
Thanks for the clarification however this is not new information. Andre has told his story And several interviews. I completely commend you for dedicating a channel to Prince however you really do need to do your research and your homework Because there are a lot of people here, myself included who are extremely well read in Prince history and we keep up-to-date with people that were close to him When they do interviews either print or video. Again no disrespect hear from me, I’m impressed with your channel I love your dedication to this awesome artist all I’m saying is if you’re going to say something you’re going to have to back it up with the research there’s plenty out there.
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Andre Cymone is one of the best bass players ..producers..ever..His Muse was his work with Jody Watley...".New Love" and more..He and Jody were a great musical team...I heard that prince assisted with New Love..
@@PrincesFriend Glad you know what happened and Andre's feelings better than Andre. I'm a little disappointed with your comment. You have no idea what private conversation Prince and Andre had to finally clear the air. Sounds like you are the one rewriting history. It's actually their story not yours. Why have an update from your original version if you don't believe what Andre's camp told you? I'm sure his wife contacted you to clear your misinformation up. You are basically calling Dre a liar. Not cool.
I love this, you set the record straight. Even if Andre was initially annoyed, he would have gotten over it. Andre knew he had his own talent, and that trajectory was on its own route, not being Prince's sideman. Prince knew it too - that Andre needed his wings loosened and needed to fly out of the nest. I never believed those stories which mostly spring from 2 books - 1989s - Prince a pop life and that 2003 thing called Possessed by Alex Hahn which was a litany of disgruntled ex employees running Prince down. PS - Album reviews, if you could find them would you do Living in the new wave and Surviving in the 80s. The one song i really love is Kelly's eyes - has a Ray parker Jnr feel (Another favourite - another album or artist review - Raydio?)
When people pass away they are held in higher esteem dead than in life, mostly out of respect and the rest out of guilt. FACTS, but since its all about LOVING PRINCE in the now, I really dont care why.
Peace. Thank u 4 ur content on this channel. If possible, always try 2 get the information u seek from the people that experienced it, not written stories/rumors by people (some with agendas) where things can get exaggerated. If the subjects of the story are still here 2 tell the truth, contact them. We need 2 control our stories or else misinformation will be the standard modus operandi. Just because something is written down and/or published, it's not necessarily true. The gatekeepers of certain world his-story has shown us this model of blind acceptance. Peace.
MakeArtNotWar I think PF does a pretty good job at communicating his sources and that information is not necessarily the final say, but rather info from his extensive and varied research. PF shares all the info and typically the different sides, rumors, etc. I mean, honestly, you could get a version directly from two separate people involved in the same experience, and those versions can be completely different as well. This is simply because of perspective, memory, and the distortion of time. I appreciated the initial video for what it was and never took it necessarily as reality, and commend PF on sharing updated info. It's the beauty of his channel, his transparency, and his honest, open, and multi-directional communication.
I just think Prince got bigger and bigger , better and better. Prince no longer needed Andre. Prince left many many people behind. If it wasn't for Prince we would not even know Andre. I'm aware Prince took credit for hard work that others put in , / basically stole some credit there. But....Prince was the real front row talent . Prince didn't need no one . They needed him. Prince could be a jerk and get away with it. The others dreams just never reached the heights that Princes dreams reached .
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I love how this is like a Part 2 and the facts are straight. What do I mean by that? Being reached by Andre's camp to help correct some of the 'rumors' in the first video means that your channel is recognized as a Prince community that has some real reach when it comes to fans!
Great content!
That will 2 have the real is what makes my Friend channel so dope
I'll put this to you-Andre Cymone produced Jody Watley's debut, and in my mind it remains a perfect dance pop album! Every track is perfect
Im glad you cleared this up. I didn't know too much about Andre Cymone, but I knew that him and Prince were best friends, thick as thieves like brothers. I did hear in one of Prince's first tv interviews were he talks about meeting Andre at a club and asking him about doing the song Dance Electric. It seems like everything was all to the good. Their versions sound very similar. They were so connected musically and personally, that I understand that friends drift apart and things happen but Andre got to do his own thing and Prince got to do his. Prince still called Andre his best friend. I saw part of an interview Andre did last year and he said nothing but great things about him. They are family 4 life.
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I notice that the only time Prince's former band members claimed co-contributor status on Prince's songs-was after Prince's death.
But, Dre didn't see his name on Albums( Prince, Dirty Mind, and Controversy). Also, he didn't like the fact that Prince was getting rich and he was getting nothing for his contributions.
Ok, there was a falling out between, Prince and Andre after he left the band. In an interview, Andre said he hadn’t talked to Prince in years and that when he heard that his mom was in the hospital (Ms. Anderson) Prince, Mayte and Larry Graham came to the hospital. They met in the elevator and Prince said are we ok . Andre laughed and said yeah. Andre Cymone story changes so much. I also remember him saying that he purchased Prince first guitar and that was a lie. I’m really done with hearing his made up events. At the end of the day, Prince drive and hard work helped him become the legend that he will always be.
Prince father bought him his first guitar.
I think the only way the lies are gonna stop is for everyone to sit down all together at the “truth table.” *Prince’s dad bought him his first guitar. I was there. He parked his car in front of my house at 927 Sheridan Avenue North and gave it to him. Peace- #Justice4cuz
@Chazz You still wearing that dirty wife beater, hoop earrings and a du-rag??!
You’ve been bitter forever.
I looked up to y’all because it appeared that you were a lifelong friend, you were just hanging on waiting for any opportunity.
Every time Andre came home you were there talking bad about Prince.
Andre just wanted to hoop with his old friends Chazz & Jackson (Terry Jackson).
Who am I…
I’m the little Red head kid that was always with Andre (Pops)
I’m all grown up now.
Guess what CUZ…
I use to DJ at Paisley Park & Pops had nothing to do with it 😎
Jive Turkey
@@charlessmith1291Word up, Prince is your Cousin
So happy you've done this counter video disputing the other one you did. You show fairness and compassion in setting the record straight.👏 That's why i didn't comment on the other one but this coming from Andre is what i heard in his numerous interviews over the years. I heard the 1st one in 2014 and it was superb.
A very fair and reasonable statement to make is that Andre said didn't actively listen to Prince's music after he left his band. It's only natural because he would be doing his own thing it's probably fair to say that Prince didn't listen to Andre's stuff either as he was busy doing HIS
own thing. Even the great Susan Rogers had said that she hasn't listened Prince music after she'd left and many of his Associates would say exactly the same thing it's a very natural thing. There are those die-hard farms that never stop listening to Prince which is excellent but does not diminish at all the fact that others have not heard everything that Prince has put out publicly.
Andre and Prince have a deep connection that no-one else had. Probably not even Tyka. I hope to read Andre's considered coherent story of he and Prince one day and maybe we will all meet in the middle. Richest blessings to you and fam 💜
Thank you for making this video to clear up the false stories regarding Prince and Andre. Both men may have had their occasional “moments” but I truly believe that there is a spiritual connection between them that will live on. Andre is a friend that now plays a large part in Prince’s legacy. There are many people that have had Prince’s back since he passed away and Andre Cymone has led the way.
Definitely
They are not false stories. Andre just doesn't want the conflict so he doesn't talk bad about Prince.
Andre has been a real brother to Prince and otherwise and vice versa. Andre is a helluva musician and like Morris were glad ass happy when Prince got on because it meant their brother would call on them. These guys have made one great story and I appreciate them all.
Who from Andre Cymone's camp said the stories were wrong? Just because they say that doesn't mean they're right. Prince took advantage of Andre, Andre was hurt and talked about it in the past. He downplays it now. Don't go just by what one person from "Andre's camp" said. The words are all on record. You can't just undo the past by saying things that happened did not happen.
Andre is a very classy guy and has always been the bigger man. He may say he didn't mind Prince using "Do me baby" but that isn't true. I've seen quotes from years back with Andre describing his hurt. Over the years he just realized it was pointless to argue about it and talking about it was probably causing him more backlash, so he just let it go. Especially after Prince's death, what's the point...
The truth is Prince took advantage of Andre, Jesse Johnson and a lot of others. He stole "Do me baby" no question. He took Jungle Love from Jesse and left him out of the writing royalties. Both Andre and Jesse were hurt. Both downplay the damage caused now because of the time that has passed and because Prince has passed on.
This was part 2, so be sure to check out the first video. This is what André says, but like I said in the video, there’s someplace in the middle that’s the actual truth imo
@@PrincesFriend No problem. I appreciate your efforts to be honest and get at the truth.
As always great job, I believe why you were contacted by Andre's camp is that they see you as honest and doing a great job in as representing all things Prince.
I have always been a big fan of Andre Cymone, he's a great all around musician in his own right. What I think people tend to forget is that he was also a hot producer. He put singer "Jody Watley" on the map as a solo artist after leaving Shalimar.
His first solo album "Living In The New Wave" blew me away. Loved his sound, and I'm sure I've told the story before of kicking myself because I had just missed meeting him after he had done a interview at KJLH radio station in Los Angeles for his first album.
Again, great job PF.
thanks for that Dennel.
Thank you for clearing this up for us I really appreciate everything you do for us and keeping us informed. You’re awesome!😊
I always liked Andre, I bought all his music and after years of being out the limelight, I was glad to see him put Jody watly back on the scene...it probably was hard to be a musician and prince friend
Prince and Andre were pretty much like brothers
Yep and brothers do fight
I believe that Fred Anderson (aka Andre Cymone's dad) is Prince's real biological father.
@@GangstaMojo In a way Prince and Andre do look alike I heard back in the day it was rumor that Prince and Andre were brothers and Bernadette (Andre's mom) was pretty much a mother to Prince then his actual mother I believe she was the one who got Prince his start and when she was sick in the hospital Prince would make frequent visits to her the way how I look at it if she raised him that his mother and like Prince's family the Anderson's are from Louisiana also so they could be related
So glad to feel better now than I did after your previous video. I was very sad that there was a falling out between Andre and Prince. Two stellar people - am happy that they were happy!
Totally!
So if you hadn’t put out your video, Andre’s camp might have never felt compelled to set the record straight in an official, public way through your channel. A combination of the two videos are about the best we’ll ever get to understanding their complicated friendship.
Thanks for that. I honestly hate to get anything wrong, but I’m happy to see that you all “get” what I was trying to do here. Cheers, Jason!
Thank you for clarifying the relationship between Andre and Prince. I still believe when Prince was starting out, he was in it for himself and was not afraid to step on someone toes. But yes, I 💜 the outcome from this story. Unfortunately and its much worse now, the media reports fake news whether it be in politics, entertainment, world issues and I think Prince knew that even back in the early days. Perhaps some of these stories originated from reporters so they can sell more magazine issues. I hope you have the opportunity to interview Andre! Great show!!💜💜
It is difficult to know what is really true. What I do know...Prince is a genius, I love his music and I miss him. That is my truth and what really matters for me.
Thank you Prince’s Friend for the update and I appreciate your honesty. 💜💜🤗
It's also right out of Prince's mouth, in his 86 MTV interview. And good for you for presenting the correct version of the stories. You have no idea of the twaddles people have to suffer through on the org, who just have to be right no matter what.
The only side we do not have is princes side but you did a fantastic job of bringing this great info to light and just so you know.... You were not wrong just misinformed but always professional and classy in your delivery I thoroughly enjoyed both videos!!!💜💜💜
Thank you so much for that, Diana
Thanks for clarifying some of that information. I did hear that information in an interview from Andre in depth. I don't want to reiterate,but it was basically about taking someone you love like a Brother to a certain point with his career. I believe personally at the time , I know this growing up pursuing my ambitions in the Entertainment field. It's always nice having someone around who is like family. The two were practically Brothers. Andre was really conducive for Prince's moral I believe at the time. Then it was time for him to evolve. From the interviews I heard, Andre wanted to have is own experience adjacent to his venture with Prince. I'am happy that he was there for his friend. That was really generous of him,looking out for his buddy. It's never easy to put aside your vision for yourself to support. When you know your potential,or better said have your own ambitions. Anyway, great to hear you set the record straight. Now that's keeping it real with your viewers. Prince would even respect that.
Prince and the time dissed andre like you said on the part of "walk", "we don't like new wave" and prince dissed Morris's "oak tree" live in concert where prince say's he gon cut that oak tree down to a wooden leg. Lol, love them all, the time, prince, andre, the revolution and all of prince's artists and proteges.
I really think Andre was envious because when they were growing up he really thought that it was going to be be him who got signed. Andre had everything back then that Prince didn't have. A family, a house to live in, supportive parents. Prince didn't have all those things but he had the talent. Andre had some talent but not like Prince and I think he to this day resents the fact that Prince made it farther than him.
Thank u for the interview, glad to know now all the rumors about Andre and Prince are cleared up, your channel is very much on point and gets to the truth about the MPLS sound, have all of Andre Cymone music from 1982 to now, including the Girls CD, which I used to have the vinyl too he produced in 1984, always thought Andre and Prince was like brothers , the Dawn is here, welcome to the dawn
Now you got some better intel, the giveaway when it comes to "Let's Work" is the bass line that wasn't Princes style. Andre is a nice bass player just listen to some of the bass lines he laid for Jody Watley!
I would need to hear Prince's end of this story in order to fairly analyze this. Many musicians hire people for creative input, and it becomes the musicians legal property instead of the property of the creator. I imagine there are many reasons for this business practice. According to books I have read about the music BUSINESS, I believe Andre could have had a lawyer negotiate an agreement to have ownership or compensation for his creative input. We know that Prince was a solo artist under the Warner Bros. contract and as such, it was solely he that had the responsibility for getting the recordings done, promoting the music on tour, and covering the expenses that the record company recoups from any advances. I don't believe the people backing Prince in the bands incurred any of those expenses, and probably not the responsibilities that come with it; as such, maybe they were not entitled to as much of the proceeds they would have liked to have received. Also, they may not have been entitled because whatever they created while working for Prince might have legally become the property of Prince without some written special agreement, and who knows, out of generosity, Prince may have given band members credit when he was not even legally obligated to do so. Andre says he was not hired. Instead he said Prince asked him (Andre) to join the band, but I think Andre was more of a hired musician than he thinks he was because that is the way business and music law probably viewed him. Legally, he was not an equal partner in the band or in the business end of it which would have included management, accounting, recordkeeping, legal representation, and other overhead expense or any costs incurred from running a business. As Andre stated in so many words in that interview, "the breaking point is when you start to realize how the record business works, and you start to feel you aren't being compensated or given the recognition you think you deserve". I assume, Andre did not have legal representation or a mentor to help him understand what he was getting himself into. Someone needed to advise him early on what he needed to do to look out for himself before he devoted so much of his time to Prince instead of spearheading his own career.
I have read that Andre dropped out of high school. Prince stayed and attended courses in marketing, contracts etc. given by a teacher with experience in the music business.
Thanks for clearing up inaccuracies about Andre and Prince's relationship. I was getting quite frustrated watching the last video because I'm a big fan of Prince and Andre Cymone and of that whole camp and been following him for years and I knew that that information was incorrect. What actually happened with the Time is that Morris, Prince and Andre knew each other in high school and played in a group called Champaign, that's how they met. Later on, Morris wrote a song that Prince liked which ended up being Party Up. Prince offered Morris an ultimatum, either $20,000 for the song or I'll get you a record deal and start your band. Morris opted for the latter, and this is in Morris's own words.
As always, Prince's Friend is respectful and always seeks to get to the kernel of truth, or as close and as balanced a representation of the facts...with much love too...
Best wishes
A
p.s I'll be checking out Andre Cymone's music!
The way I see it, Prince got the deal and took his brother along with him. Also, Prince was the most driven one out the bunch.
Jimmy always expressed his gratitude for the exposure that Prince gave him.
Prince and Andre were brothers forever. They were family. That is why I love your channel because of your honesty and sincerity. Thank you Prince's Friend for finding out the truth. Love you my brother. 💜🤗💜
I appreciate that
Andre has been front & center in some of the charitable initiatives Manuela has done in honour and memory of Prince. Most notably a music room. Andre & his family took Prince in when Prince needed a place to stay for a reportedly good chunk of time. It is reported that Prince’s Mom knew whether Prince’s parents sent her money for food, but a big commitment on her part, Andre etc. I don’t think Prince would do Andre wrong at least intentionally. Prince knew Andre had a lot of stories from when he (Prince) wasn’t so famous 💜🕊
Ur videos r always positive and informative. It's so cool that u can say hey I was wrong. Nothin but purple love 4 this channel 💜
Prince had a song 4 Jesse called shockadelica and that was supposed 2 b from his 2nd album 'Shockadelica'. Jesse's got some stories about that. Plus Sonny T was in Jesse's 2nd album.
Very nicely done on updating us on what is correct and what is not. Also cool that his camp is watching your channel and took time to reach out and tell you what is true. Did you ask if Andre wouldn't mind coming on your channel?
I did, of course. We’ll see what the future holds.
But yeah, I was blown away that I was even on their radar.
Prince's Friend I told you your blowing up. Yessssss, in my Morris Day voice.
They say any publicity is good publicity. And even tho Prince himself may not have needed it as much, as his career was already on track - it never hurts to have people wondering and talking about you.
Prince mentioned Andre's name throughout the years. If they had a bad relationship his name would not have been mentioned.
Lets be real
Dre was pissed he wasnt getting the credit he thought he deserved at the time...
Thanks for including the link. It's a fantastic article.
Right?!? Andre is great.
Thanks for all the great uploads. Keep up the good work!😁👍
I enjoyed your up date on Prince and Andre Cymone. I agree with you as there being a middle ground as far as their relationship goes. I did here Andre Cymone say in an interview he was going to stay with Prince for the first 3 albums only, then work on his own music.
The thing about Prince giving u songs when he loved u is true. That's why Eye have Under the Cherry Moon/Parade.
My perception is that they lived as brothers and they had a sibling rivalry. I mean who doesn't have people in their lives that push them to be a better version of yourself and collaborate on projects? But down deep under the ego they loved each other. Prince went to the hospital when Andre's mother was very ill before she passed. Andre met Prince (with Larry Graham & their wives) on the elevator. Andre said something like, You gonna help carry these pizzas, man? 😊( he had a bunch in his arms going up to his mother's hospital room) . They smiled and Prince helped. The rest of the chatter is noise. 💜💜
Many artists both visual & performing tend to not listen or look at other artists to avoid indirect influence. My husband who is a visual artist was like that. So Andre making that choice was not unusual.
Thanks so much for the truth. I hate rumors. Andre Cymone is talented in his style of music and I can understand him not wanting to sound like Prince. He wanted his own style and Prince probably understood that. People just wanted to pit them against each other. Two talented musicians, two Brothers.
I think you did s great job with both interviews. I think Andre Cymone is a great artist and it’s possible that now with Prince gone he found peace and dropped whatever bad feelings there may have been. The truth of the matter is there was a measure of distance in what was a “brotherly” relationship. Andre wanting to do his own thing is a good enough reason to leave but hearing allegations of song stealing or not getting credit for things has been said by numerous ex members. In the way that Prince always maintained that he wrote and did everything all the time makes it most likely that some of the allegations are true. How could this bunch of very talented musicians work tirelessly together but never ever write any of the material??? Not very likely. I think back to the little song snippet about “Andre Crabtree" that Prince used a couple of times and feel like there was a reason for that. Half of these “rumor” are Prince’s fault anyway for not speaking or allowing others to speak. And I say allow because we see the minute he passed they seemed to have found their voices. At the end of the day I think it was all family with Prince and his people and we all know his family can be,....there can be grief but there is also love. And love always wins.
Wow! Thanks for correcting the info about this. But I still see Andre and prince bonding together in friendship even though they separate from each other from the band. And that they would love to collaborating w/ each other if they want to and can. But great review, brew. And thanks for sharing this insight. I give this a like and thumbs up.😄👍🏻
Thanks, that was good. Prince had a lot of really musically talented people in his camp. Many of those people at some point had to part from him and have their own musical journey & experiences apart from his. It's nice to know there wasn't any animosity between them. All of them had a lot of talent & started out young. As you age you change, your thoughts, ideas,as well as desires change. You just can't have that many talented musicians, songwriters together that just stay together forever especially starting out as teens. At some point a person has to leave the comfort of family, friends, & the familiar to make their own way, doing there own thing having their own journey. Yeah prince made it really big & I'm sure it made a lot of them think on their overall all journey with him & apart from him. If you ask each of them concerning their own musical journey's they probably wouldn't change a thing. Again thanks for the correction. Enjoyed it.
If they were "non-adversarial" that's great. Still, I think if Prince were here, he would see things a bit differently on some things. The waters get muddied over time. I do however, think Prince & Andre were brothers & had such a long history that the Brotherly love didn't just go away. It depends even now, on who you choose to believe. If Andre didn't listen to Prince's music, I would think he had to not be swayed or unintentionally be drawn in the other direction to stay focused on his own career/creations. I'm glad for the response and I Agree 100 that The Truth is probably somewhere in the middle. I do know at one point in later years, Andre was at (invited or showed up idk), at one of Prince's shows & he sat onstage & Prince introduced him by name, reminded the audience of their early connection as kids/band mates & called him a friend. When all was said & done I think they did still have love for one another as a Real friendship should. That brings Joy to my heart!
Much Respect to Andre (& for his input on the first three albums which cemented Prince in my heart) & as Always PRINCELUV4EVER!!!😁🎸😚🎶
i just listened to a lisa coleman interview where she says prince said he fired andrew.
Lisa still sound hurt about that breakup she didn't want Andre to leave she ndte was doing his thing the prince thing was Andre cymone so prince Kim upsher Lisa prince all lived together
Another solid episode, excellent that you heard from Andre and cleared a few things up.
Thanks for the update it was super cool 😎 thanks for all you do 💜
It's all about record sales, period. Who ever has the best record sales is the best artist. F the bs, let's be sincere to each other once in a while.
I'm so glad you went did the research .Also seeking truth. 💜😎
Andre wanted to be in a band, not Prince's band. Grand Central was the band. It wasn't Andre's or Prince's. It was the band. Andre didn't want for Prince he wanted to work with Prince.
In Prince's first televised interview (MTV 1985 on the set of the video America) he spoke about giving Andre the Dance Electric. According to him he ran into Andre at a discotheque and invited him to his studio the next day. Interesting how the story keeps changing. If you haven't, you should check out Jody Watley's first 2 solo albums both produced by Andre. Very funky. Minneapolis. Fu
U gotta understand when Prince had no where 2 live his partner went up 2 bat 2 move him in his home Andre mom let Prince live and go 2 school so just stop it wit the jealous bout dre shit he did jody wotley album blew the hell up remember like 2 album hot as fuck. Keeep #1thou folks
Feel better about their relationship. Good to hear. AC seems like a cool dude regardless.
Thanks for clearing things up 😊 I get it 👍 @Prince's Friend
GREAT VIDEO Keep Winning
If Prince and Andre we're cool why didn't he get on stage and jam with P from time to time. I've seen many people jam with him.Something seems foul to me but I really hope that I'm wrong. Honestly you're right the truth is at the half way mark.
+K Chavez Maybe they patched things up as friends but decided that working together may not be the best thing since they just made up as friends. Let bygones be bygones and move on with their lives. Or maybe their schedules never aligned.
@@Jsimm100 That's why I said I hope I'm wrong. I didn't say work together I said jam it's a difference. P other "friends" jammed with him Morris Day,Lisa and Wendy, Sheila E. I could list more but I'm sure you get it😁💜
Still Prince can't confirm anything that anyone has said since he's passed away and it's just amazing how all these "accurate" stories come out now that he's gone. I wonder what part of his life he started with in the short memoir
Hi. I think it was his childhood. He was getting help from his younger brother Omar in remembering things that happened when they were children.
I kind of find it hard to believe that Prince didn't keep a Diary /Journal at some point in his life. He was such a prolific writer and his life was so interesting and exciting. Maybe if we're lucky they'll find a journal, but at the same time I'm not sure we should invade his privacy. 💜
Good stuff bro! And a great lesson on vetting the material before dropping it
I know it’s tough with all the stories out there!! Hang in there brother!!
Totally! Me and Andre’s camp are straight now. Honestly, it may be a good thing because now I’ve made contact. :)
Prince's Friend keep doing the good work! I know it’s hard trying to bring all of the stories out, especially since our friend is gone. So, we may not have the ability to vett like we wish. But your doing a great job. Anything on the Time and the two full albums that were in the vault ??
PRINCE The Purple One 🍇 And Andre Are Friends!! PRINCE Stood For His Hits Songs Purple Rain & Party Like It's 1999/2 Zero Zero Zero-!! While Andre - Songs Hits Was 1969 And Revolution For African American Rights!!! 2 Greats Icons. R.I.P. PRINCE 🍇 🍇. Thanks My Dude For A Great Video. ( Prince Friend ) PF...
Also Both Was Mentored By Pepe Willie and He Produced His Own Music
I saw Andre Cymone and most of Prince's band in a small club in NC around 1984... there were less then 100 people there. I guess ppl in NC didn't know who he was. The band even wore the same costumes like from Princes videos back then.
I get that ppl can make mistakes when reporting news on P. Granted, there are many stories out there that it's easy to get facts distorted. However (having said all that), I remain greatly disappointed in the 1st vid mainly bc the information was readily available. André did a 2+ hours interview w/Michael Dean and crew in @podcastjuice some yrs back and in 2016 after P passed away speaking very candidly this very subject. They are all really was excellent interviews! André was forthcoming and totally straight up abt why he left the band and about his own ambitions in developing his own music career. Also, I heard André do a live interview at Celebration 2017 (the year The Revolution performed) speaking again about this very subject and meeting O in school. Again, another great interview!
Another issue w/ your video is I really thought André's involvement in the early years has been minimized; my man really got short changed! Mrs. Anderson's influence in support of Grand Central (and her direct involvement in supporting Prince for that matter) were grossly minimized. Again, check out Michael Dean's interview w/André Cymone and an interview w/a Minneapolis biographer, who went all in on Mrs. Anderson's role in the Uptown community and beyond. I really got schooled on this generous and ambitious woman!
Did you know that Mrs. Anderson was so loved and highly respected that Prince went to visit her in the hospital shortly before she passed away? Word has it that P rarely (if ever) was known to make hospital visits. ( I don't claim to know anything!) Again, Andre lovingly recounts the details of this visit on @podcastjuice Again, super dope interview.
No disrespect to you bc I feel that you do fab work overall. Your André vid should not detract from the totality of your work. Admittedly, I was disappointed on the André piece (but over it now) . I'm just glad that André's camp responded and your retractions were prompt. My man seems like a super, cool dude and deserves not to be reduced to just a footnote in the early P years and involvement in Minneapolis sound. Sorry 4 the rant. Still support your show!
Your rant is warranted. Thanks for your feedback, and I’m always trying to do better. Cheers!
So he went out and created his own thing that sounded just like Prince music come on we know those first three albums were by Prince just like the first two Time albums listen to Andre's work today it sounds nothing similar to his early work and you look at Princess whole body of work and you know it all belongs to him Andre has changed drastically from his early Music Prince even though he's very versatile always maintained his signature Andres first three albums are Prince's signature
Nice update. Andre was a real friend of Prince, he’s modest and I’m sure he would have wanted Prince to move onwards without him and for himself to have his independence. They were too similar to stick together, it just wouldn’t have worked in the long run. I’m sure as with all “brothers” as such, they were bound to have their differences at times.
One other thing, I've been in the entertainment industry since a kid. The studio stuff bands and friends jamming has been around for years. Sly Stone would listen for something he liked and record it, George Clinton did it it gets to the point where you don't know if that's you or not. They also did it with Jimi he would be so high all of it wasn't magic. That's enough I don't kiss and tell!
Andre wants to spin it to make it sound more pleasant than the break up actually was. Andre did a real detailed interview in Rock magazine bab back in 1984.
I'm sure you're right that the truth is somewhere in the middle!
Hello Prince's friend, love your commentary
Thank you so much.
I told you I heard Andre say it wasn't that sinister.
Good Job On Clearing The Air
Andre didn't want to be in Prince's band in the first place. Prince really wanted him to be in his band. Andre's plan was to leave after dirty mind from the beginning. Watch Paul Peterson's blog where he interviews Andrew. This is what Andre said out of his mouth.
Great Job
Hope you’re doing good, this is a great video
Thank you much
My first single for the new year, hope you like it
before it seemed more like Andre was hurt more then anything
Nah Lisa was hurt still about Andre cymone Getting fire she like that your brother you can't fire him n prince said yes I can lol
It was cool
Andre has made the choice to live in the positive love that he shared with Prince why I live in the negative dark with spooky Electric
you should interview andre cymone
That’s be fun!
Prince was hurt n pissoff when Andre cymone left him
I love and understand the full weight of respect that you have for the sacredness of the truth of their relationship that this is the first time I've ever seen you nervous. Lol truth on my brother! PS still waiting on that 1969 review.!!
I believe Andre side period.
It's nothing extra.
Thanks for the clarification however this is not new information. Andre has told his story And several interviews. I completely commend you for dedicating a channel to Prince however you really do need to do your research and your homework Because there are a lot of people here, myself included who are extremely well read in Prince history and we keep up-to-date with people that were close to him When they do interviews either print or video. Again no disrespect hear from me, I’m impressed with your channel I love your dedication to this awesome artist all I’m saying is if you’re going to say something you’re going to have to back it up with the research there’s plenty out there.
Friends care about the integrity and moral compass of the individual.When imagery is detrimental to civil society and violates the innocence of children, friends find a way to give guidance. DISCLAIM the 7 video; the album provides parental warning. The video must follow suit” slick satin chicken grease.
Well done!!!
Andre Cymone is one of the best bass players ..producers..ever..His Muse was his work with Jody Watley...".New Love" and more..He and Jody were a great musical team...I heard that prince assisted with New Love..
Sorry, I'm not hearing any of Andre's words. This all songs sugar-coated.
That’s essentially it. For me, I’m sure there’s a bit of history rewriting here, but the truth is likely somewhere in the middle.
@@PrincesFriend Glad you know what happened and Andre's feelings better than Andre. I'm a little disappointed with your comment. You have no idea what private conversation Prince and Andre had to finally clear the air. Sounds like you are the one rewriting history. It's actually their story not yours. Why have an update from your original version if you don't believe what Andre's camp told you? I'm sure his wife contacted you to clear your misinformation up. You are basically calling Dre a liar. Not cool.
Excellent job bro
I love this, you set the record straight. Even if Andre was initially annoyed, he would have gotten over it. Andre knew he had his own talent, and that trajectory was on its own route, not being Prince's sideman. Prince knew it too - that Andre needed his wings loosened and needed to fly out of the nest. I never believed those stories which mostly spring from 2 books - 1989s - Prince a pop life and that 2003 thing called Possessed by Alex Hahn which was a litany of disgruntled ex employees running Prince down. PS - Album reviews, if you could find them would you do Living in the new wave and Surviving in the 80s. The one song i really love is Kelly's eyes - has a Ray parker Jnr feel (Another favourite - another album or artist review - Raydio?)
Yeah, that made me kind of sad, their break up, the info from the RUMOR video. The UPDATE info = much better!!!! O(+>
The update video is definitely happier, but the real truth is likely somewhere in the middle. 💜
Prince save Andre cymone career in 1985
When people pass away they are held in higher esteem dead than in life, mostly out of respect and the rest out of guilt. FACTS, but since its all about LOVING PRINCE in the now, I really dont care why.
Andre said the same thing in an interview in 2014 two years BEFORE Prince died, so he didn't change his story.
That's for clearing this up
still one sided - this conversation. Funny how people waited until he died to make such claims..
Peace. Thank u 4 ur content on this channel. If possible, always try 2 get the information u seek from the people that experienced it, not written stories/rumors by people (some with agendas) where things can get exaggerated. If the subjects of the story are still here 2 tell the truth, contact them. We need 2 control our stories or else misinformation will be the standard modus operandi. Just because something is written down and/or published, it's not necessarily true. The gatekeepers of certain world his-story has shown us this model of blind acceptance. Peace.
MakeArtNotWar I think PF does a pretty good job at communicating his sources and that information is not necessarily the final say, but rather info from his extensive and varied research. PF shares all the info and typically the different sides, rumors, etc. I mean, honestly, you could get a version directly from two separate people involved in the same experience, and those versions can be completely different as well. This is simply because of perspective, memory, and the distortion of time. I appreciated the initial video for what it was and never took it necessarily as reality, and commend PF on sharing updated info. It's the beauty of his channel, his transparency, and his honest, open, and multi-directional communication.
Thank you to both of you. I do my best with anything I put up on my channel, and if I make a mistake I’ll be the first to own up to it. Cheers!
On god Andre cymone Kelly eyes sound like prince rite n produce it
I just think Prince got bigger and bigger , better and better. Prince no longer needed Andre. Prince left many many people behind. If it wasn't for Prince we would not even know Andre. I'm aware Prince took credit for hard work that others put in , / basically stole some credit there. But....Prince was the real front row talent . Prince didn't need no one . They needed him. Prince could be a jerk and get away with it. The others dreams just never reached the heights that Princes dreams reached .