It's destruction in value in the program versus the sting of the buyout. The destruction in value in the program must have been greater. On another note, both Henderson and Reed as dual threats looked intriguing.
Those two are very intriguing, which points to the the whole destruction of value part you speak to in a different way right. Like why was Jaylen not a viable option or seen as the better option. Thats on a lower level it seems though, because the real destruction happens next year.
Billy Liucci will be able to layout how the new coach is chosen and who is the point person there. Jimbo is owed 19 million within 30 days. And then the remainder in yearly installments throughout the life of the contract. The sting is not bad bad it could be but it is persistent.
yeah, well I'd like to know just who the point person is. It's one thing to know who they are, and another to be their accountability. I'm tired of kicking the can down the road, the critical takes coming from that is avenue is watered down at minimum. That point person should be made aware of their responsibility. The trouble is, IMO, it gets masked because they find the person, and then ultimately a committee that rotates decides makes the decisions from the candidates, so it ends up on us. Who the us is is another problem. Media outlets haven't done any favors in steering us away from less than favorable coaches. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe there are those big names out there that were critical of the extension, I just haven't heard them!
@@atmcoldchills In reality there is likely a search committee working with the AD. There is probably a chair of that committee as the lead. My guess is they've been thinking about this for a while. Consider the sinking feeling you had after Miami thumped the Ags. The search committee probably started the next day. And it is possible some of this goes back to the 5&7. I don't think the next hire will be an ill conceived decision. Some pundits out there, especially those associated with the SEC Network think the next head coach has been ID'd and talked to already. It's prudent to be the first in the coaching carousel this year.
On the Henderson issue, don't discount the fact that Henderson has been practicing this whole time. I think it is very likely that Henderson in week 1 is not the same as Henderson now. I also saw a fair amount of deep inaccuracy that, against all the other defenses, would likely have been exploited.
@@atmcoldchills Well I don't know if it was simpler. There's no way to know that very well unless we can see the complexity of the game plan written out and compare them. The scrambling ability always has the potential to create positive plays where there are none but can also indicate that the offense is nothing without it depending on who the QB is.
If Jimbo wants to coach next season, I can think of 4 SEC teams that would take him. Those being Arkansas, South Carolina, Florida and Vandy. I also have no trouble seeing him turn those into tough 9 win teams and if he goes to the east, he may be able to pull a quick one on Georgia on a good year and sneak into the SEC title game from the east side. I just think something else is going on at A&M, factors that people aren't considering, things that are not obvious that go beyond simple spending power, talent and facilities. I mention Jimbo's next post because I kind of expect him to have success somewhere else, especially if he goes to a historic powerhouse that is down right now like Florida. After 4 coaches and 20 years, I don't think A&M's drought is Jimbo's creation and it would be peak irony to see Jimbo at least win a conference title somewhere else. I don't want to hear the peanut gallery call any coach a hack ever again if that ever happens but that is years away if ever.
He definitely offers the recruiting edge those programs have been lacking. As far as X's and O's, I just don't see now that is palatable, but that coming from us who have had to deal with him. He's proved that no matter who he recruits, he can't develop them or use them in a way that maximizes their abilities. right? I don't think that would stop any of them b/c it would still be an upgrade. But Jimbo is limited unless he changes.
@@atmcoldchills You mentioned the big wigs at A&M wanting to get ahead of the Texas game in 2024. I don't see how they get ahead in a year. if Jimbo coaches that game it probably comes down to the last play. Maybe Connor or Henderson pull some magic and win it or they lose by a FG. Now they have to "get ahead" by hiring someone who may have never been a HC in the SEC. Jimbo isn't even a year removed from hiring Petrino. Maybe they could have kept developing their plan but seems like the decision makers would rather place their hopes on something else now. We shall see.
I'm not sure there is anything in the internal workings at A&M that prevents success that can be achieved in South Carolina, Kentucky and Florida. Vandy is a whole different animal. Florida has been a powerhouse in the past. Talent from Texas high schools disperses all over the place. And UT has been the big dog in Texas historically. So acquiring this talent is always a battle. But if Jimbo lands a 5 year 50 million dollar contract with an SEC East team good for him and all the money he will receive yearly. All in all he will make much more in a year than the standard SEC coach. Will Jimbo land a job before Texas A&M lands a head coach?
@@jaym8257 Well South Carolina does have a good run under Spurrier from 2010-2013. Consecutive double digit seasons and good bowl wins. A&M with tenfold the resources hasn't strung together consecutive double digit seasons since the early 90s. Seems like A&M, with everything they have, the donors, the 12th Man, etc, should be able to hit 10 wins on the regular. Now, that is a gross simplification of success but there just seems to be something else going on. Barring just plain stupid coaching hires, which I don't think is the case, A&M seems to have a rare position in CFB that money cannot solve.
@@GridironMasters Don't disagree. A&M has not found the right QB since Johnny Football. Mond was okay. But since JFF, they have not found the right QB who stayed healthy.
I hated the extension. I understood, but I thought it was a bad decision. It seems if he has the right mix, and can do some things in the first few years, but after that, he's cooked
Glad it happened! A&M needed to move on
It's destruction in value in the program versus the sting of the buyout. The destruction in value in the program must have been greater. On another note, both Henderson and Reed as dual threats looked intriguing.
Those two are very intriguing, which points to the the whole destruction of value part you speak to in a different way right. Like why was Jaylen not a viable option or seen as the better option. Thats on a lower level it seems though, because the real destruction happens next year.
Billy Liucci will be able to layout how the new coach is chosen and who is the point person there. Jimbo is owed 19 million within 30 days. And then the remainder in yearly installments throughout the life of the contract. The sting is not bad bad it could be but it is persistent.
yeah, well I'd like to know just who the point person is. It's one thing to know who they are, and another to be their accountability. I'm tired of kicking the can down the road, the critical takes coming from that is avenue is watered down at minimum. That point person should be made aware of their responsibility. The trouble is, IMO, it gets masked because they find the person, and then ultimately a committee that rotates decides makes the decisions from the candidates, so it ends up on us. Who the us is is another problem. Media outlets haven't done any favors in steering us away from less than favorable coaches.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe there are those big names out there that were critical of the extension, I just haven't heard them!
@@atmcoldchills In reality there is likely a search committee working with the AD. There is probably a chair of that committee as the lead. My guess is they've been thinking about this for a while. Consider the sinking feeling you had after Miami thumped the Ags. The search committee probably started the next day. And it is possible some of this goes back to the 5&7. I don't think the next hire will be an ill conceived decision. Some pundits out there, especially those associated with the SEC Network think the next head coach has been ID'd and talked to already. It's prudent to be the first in the coaching carousel this year.
On the Henderson issue, don't discount the fact that Henderson has been practicing this whole time. I think it is very likely that Henderson in week 1 is not the same as Henderson now. I also saw a fair amount of deep inaccuracy that, against all the other defenses, would likely have been exploited.
I do agree with that. Do you think the simplified approach and running dynamic were game changers?
@@atmcoldchills Well I don't know if it was simpler. There's no way to know that very well unless we can see the complexity of the game plan written out and compare them.
The scrambling ability always has the potential to create positive plays where there are none but can also indicate that the offense is nothing without it depending on who the QB is.
If Jimbo wants to coach next season, I can think of 4 SEC teams that would take him. Those being Arkansas, South Carolina, Florida and Vandy. I also have no trouble seeing him turn those into tough 9 win teams and if he goes to the east, he may be able to pull a quick one on Georgia on a good year and sneak into the SEC title game from the east side. I just think something else is going on at A&M, factors that people aren't considering, things that are not obvious that go beyond simple spending power, talent and facilities. I mention Jimbo's next post because I kind of expect him to have success somewhere else, especially if he goes to a historic powerhouse that is down right now like Florida. After 4 coaches and 20 years, I don't think A&M's drought is Jimbo's creation and it would be peak irony to see Jimbo at least win a conference title somewhere else. I don't want to hear the peanut gallery call any coach a hack ever again if that ever happens but that is years away if ever.
He definitely offers the recruiting edge those programs have been lacking. As far as X's and O's, I just don't see now that is palatable, but that coming from us who have had to deal with him. He's proved that no matter who he recruits, he can't develop them or use them in a way that maximizes their abilities. right?
I don't think that would stop any of them b/c it would still be an upgrade. But Jimbo is limited unless he changes.
@@atmcoldchills You mentioned the big wigs at A&M wanting to get ahead of the Texas game in 2024. I don't see how they get ahead in a year. if Jimbo coaches that game it probably comes down to the last play. Maybe Connor or Henderson pull some magic and win it or they lose by a FG. Now they have to "get ahead" by hiring someone who may have never been a HC in the SEC.
Jimbo isn't even a year removed from hiring Petrino. Maybe they could have kept developing their plan but seems like the decision makers would rather place their hopes on something else now. We shall see.
I'm not sure there is anything in the internal workings at A&M that prevents success that can be achieved in South Carolina, Kentucky and Florida. Vandy is a whole different animal. Florida has been a powerhouse in the past. Talent from Texas high schools disperses all over the place. And UT has been the big dog in Texas historically. So acquiring this talent is always a battle. But if Jimbo lands a 5 year 50 million dollar contract with an SEC East team good for him and all the money he will receive yearly. All in all he will make much more in a year than the standard SEC coach. Will Jimbo land a job before Texas A&M lands a head coach?
@@jaym8257 Well South Carolina does have a good run under Spurrier from 2010-2013. Consecutive double digit seasons and good bowl wins. A&M with tenfold the resources hasn't strung together consecutive double digit seasons since the early 90s. Seems like A&M, with everything they have, the donors, the 12th Man, etc, should be able to hit 10 wins on the regular. Now, that is a gross simplification of success but there just seems to be something else going on. Barring just plain stupid coaching hires, which I don't think is the case, A&M seems to have a rare position in CFB that money cannot solve.
@@GridironMasters Don't disagree. A&M has not found the right QB since Johnny Football. Mond was okay. But since JFF, they have not found the right QB who stayed healthy.
The amount of ignorance about the value of this job among college football fans is astounding.
It's long overdue..!!! By at least 3 years.
I hated the extension. I understood, but I thought it was a bad decision. It seems if he has the right mix, and can do some things in the first few years, but after that, he's cooked