STIHL MS400i vs. ECHO CS620P vs. HUSQVARNA 562XP MARK II
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- STIHL vs HUSQVARNA vs ECHO...WHO WILL BE THE WINNER???? The STIHL MS400i is a great saw...but not cheap! The HUSQVARNA 562XP MARK ll is very smooth and runs great! The ECHO CS620PW is a well built chainsaw that costs WAY less plus comes with a 5 year warranty!!
I’m a diehard Husqvarna guy. I own 7 with the oldest one being 46 years old. Having said that, when someone asks me what saw they should buy to start a firewood business I tell them Echo 590 or 620. For the money you can’t beat the price, quality, and warranty.
Yup, that is very good advice! Thanks!
There will always be pros and cons to each saw brand; it depends on what you are using the saws for and what kind of wood you will primarily cut. Both Husqvarna and Stihl are the most common and have a larger market, but Echo can still hold its own--especially if cost is important. One thing that is very important when looking for a saw(s), is to find out which brand has an authorized reseller and service center in your area--this is an absolutely key factor.
For myself, doing firewood up here in central British Columbia, I do it all (felling, limbing, bucking) with my Echo CS-600P and CS-620P. I've also been brushing using my friend's Husky 55 (great saw) for a week clearing 15 hectares of birch, cottonwood, and aspen; this is my first time using a Husky. On the echos, I run a 24" and 27" bar with Oregon Powercut chains--the other key factor with any saw is to make sure the chain is "Sharp"!
Yup, a good dealer with good service is key!
I have used echo saws now for 5 years 501p the longest now 620 , 7310 and a 4310sx . Absolutely no complaints whatsoever great saws 501p is one of if not the best 50cc saw ever made . I also have a 500i stihl and well nothing touches that . That is the best saw you can buy
Yup, all good saws!
@@richardsneddon2976 the 4310 is not available here. How does it compare to the 501p?
@@johngardner3020 I prefer the 501 saws . The 501 has better power and torque and the 4310 is like the difference between the 501 and the 621 .. I do use the 4310 a lot as well the gaps in power and all but my favourite is the 501 even over the 621 or the 7310 ... I just really like the 501
I bought the Stihl 400 about 18 months ago and have been super happy with it using it to fell a few trees on the property and 5+ cords of firewood yearly. My neighbor has the Echo 590 and it feels very similar. Still haven't tried out a husky. The dealer network is what drove my decision.
Great to hear!
Bought an MS362 recently. And holy hell, what a saw. Eats through all kinds of big oak like its softwood. The m-tronic system is cool, pending it doesn't break
Yup, that is a nice saw ...now you should try a 500 or a 661 and THEY will blow your mind!
Just keep the air and fuel filters clean and depending on how much you use the saw replace the fuel sylanoid once and a while and it will be great. I have a ms26C-M and it's been problem free.
261C-M
I thought I had me a 500I from a guy that buys storage units but he sold it before I could get to him. He had a lightly used ms461 full wrap handle for a great price so I got it. Not a 500 but a step closer lol.
@derekdietz4198 it's still 74cc(?) of fury tho. I saw some used 460s/461s on Facebook that I was tempted to buy
That Echo sure looks good with that full wrap handle.
Yup, very nice saw!!!
I am an Echo guy, I used to be a Husky guy but they DO NOT take care of their customers. We have a good Stihl dealer, but I think they are too expensive, but the Stihl looked like it was cutting faster. I was looking for an Echo 7301 but I may have to reconsider the Stihl You must have the same John Deere dealer's we have in Ohio., Ag-Pro. They absolutely suck. I had my equipment serviced and we I got it back. it had no fluids in it and my bumper pins were missing. They wouldn't make it right. I had to drive 20 miles to the dealer, get the fluids and put them in myself after paying them $500 to do it.
Good service is hard to find!
" Yes, yes, and yes!" To each of those 3 saws!💪
Yes!
Warranty on the echo is the reason to buy along with the price. I love mine.
Good reasons!
I have and run all the 3 🍊 brands.
Stihl: 201t, 170, 461, 660
Husky: 460, 545, 372, 572
Echo: 355t, 4910, 590, 620
But for the price everyone should have an Echo CS-590/620 in their saw lineup, best bang for the buck saw ever
Yup, they all make good stuff but the Echo is priced nice!
WHAT SAW IS GOING TO MAKE ME THE MOST MONEY?
Should be the answer!
Any tree service/firewood/logger guy that needs under 28”/70cc buy the Echo CS620!
It’s a no brainer, I have 10yrs shop experience with
Husky/Stihl/Echo saws.
This is about production, business, downtime, and part replacement costs.
1sec doesn’t matter if the saw won’t hold up and still make you money after the warranty ends.
CS620 is comparable to a 365/372 non x-torq, the ms400 & 562xp are electronic strato saws.
Awesome...thanks for the info!!!
Love 5xx series Husky’s, but from a rough life of firewood. I have made the most money from a used
Speedco/Huskee flathead Briggs splitter & Echo CS590 Timberwolf. Those 2 pieces of equipment have had the lowest operating cost.
Its interesting to hear you guys report the husqvarna being easier on the hands. Their published handle vibration values seem worse than stihl on most models but we its true, we dont cut trees with sales brochures.
Good point...
Here in Australia we have the echo 621 sx it’s priced at $ 1,849 AU , which is a reduced emissions version I’m not sure if you guys get that model.
The Husqvarna 562 xp is $ 1,769 AU , that’s for the mk 1 as we don’t have the mk 2 yet .
The stihl ms 400 is $ 1,999 AU my pick nothing against the others at all .
Where I live we have stihl and Husqvarna dealers very close ,they are very good to deal with as for echo there is no dealers in my area and not many in the country compared to the other guys they just can’t compete with them but they are a bloody great saw.
So thought I would throw some useless information out there 😂
Cheers mate great vid 👍👍👍
Thanks for the info...you pay a lot more there for sure!
@@InTheWoodyard we sure do mate and there getting more expensive every year it’s unreal and the battery saws as well .
Good one. Like this videos.
The wood I took out of my wood pile bin, the locust was 26% moisture. White birch at 20%. Maple, not sure if hard or soft type, between 30 % to 36%.
All been in the bin since last September. No mould. Test all fresh splits. 👍🏻👍🏻
Nice! thanks!
Work tested is the best😊
Yes it is!
I ordered a Husqvarna 460 rancher, it delivers today. Can't wait to try it. I've been using a little poulan pro 42cc. It struggles with some of the bigger stuff I've cut but it's done 4 cords worth of cutting so far.
@@noahtittle1233 Congrats! Is your new 460 coming with a 20" or 24" bar? I have seen them sold both ways. The 20" is better all around for that saw, IMO.
@@waynetharp it's supposed to be the 24". I've read about how much better it performs running the 20". I'll probably end up getting a 20" to have as a backup.
@noahtittle1233 Yep...They will pull a 24" but the chain needs to really sharp and let the saw do the work. You will really like it with the 20"!👍
Do you have something ready to cut when it arrives today?
@@waynetharp yeah I figure I'll need to baby it a little bit but I've got a red oak trunk that needs cutting up and my little 18" poulan ain't going to cut it.
@noahtittle1233 I like to slowly break a new saw with heat cycles myself also. Especially those first couple tanks. Give them extra long warm-up times and try not to hold the throttle in the same position more than a few seconds at a time. Doesn't matter if it is half, 3 quarters, or full throttle. I just don't hold it there very long. Lots of throttle feathering and good long cool downs between tanks.
Yet, I see guys run em hard brand new with the either it runs or blows up during warranty mentality and get along just fine. But they don't keep them long enough to know if break in helps. Every saw I am currently running is well over 10 years old,seldom go more than a few days year round without running, and have never needed to be rebuilt!👍
Good luck with your new saw, and I hope you have many years of work from it!
I have used many different saw's and I use to say the same thing if they cut good then it's a good saw. But as time moves on you start thinking differently. A really good Chain is what helps make the saw so good but no matter what saw you are running you start adding how many times that saw breaks down and the cost of the saw to have it fixed or to get the part for that saw. I had a new cheap saw I wanted to play with and a guy I knew that was about 58 years old needed help with his wood. We started together and he was running a STIHL. I with a cheap Wal-Mart saw was out cutting him and his STIHL was cutting poorly. Then it happen it broke. He took it in to the STIHL dealer to get the part and yes the part that broke was made out of plastic. Now I say the saw is only good as long as it is running and the chain is sharp lmao. I have worked with guys that assumed they knew more about cutting then I did and they would not take my advice after all they know more then I do. I told them many times not to lay down to much pressure let the saw do the work but they seem to think the more they put their weight in to the saw the faster it will cut.
Yup, a sharp chain is usually the big game changer for most saws a s far as how well they cut.
@@InTheWoodyard You know the best chain is a chain that never goes dull but they will never sell that because they would never make any money lmao.
@@danelionheart5881 the big game changer for people is when they can sharpen a chain and know how to do it well. Unfortunately it takes consistent sharpening all the time to get really good at it, especially free hand.
@@danelionheart5881 the real game changer for chainsaw users is to be able to freehand sharpen with a hand file and do it well.
Of course this takes quite a while to perfect with consistent practice.
Nice! I had the opportunity to use a 592xp with only a 24“ bar at a dealership and I must say for it‘s size it handles very well. I am sure a longer bar could change that dynamic. Enjoyed the video👍
Thanks!
I was thinking a 562mk 2 but talking to adam at the frenzy im seriously considering the echo. This video is very helpful
Both nice saws!
Not too many options for saw brands. I run a Stihl ms400 almost daily and I like it, but a Dolmar 7900 was cheaper and walks all over it. I can run a 7900 all day. I'm worried that decent power equipment will be out of the price range for most guys soon
I disagree, saw prices are not high when you consider that the bigger better pro saws cut more wood faster and make you more money or just save time....time is more valuable, I can make more money...time...not so much.
Ahhhh man glitter in the morning, nice line up of cutters Chris and saws. Keep on cutting now that the monsoons have slowed
Yup...saw fun!
Well the Stihl stole the day but I am stihl a Husky fan.
If I was really tight on money though,the Echo would be a real stihl.
All 3 where nice to use!
Great vid,i like these guys content too,how many videos do you got coming with them? If you dont mind,thanks Chris
They did a couple while they where here.
Ok thanks
That 400c looks good in your hands Chris!
That’s what I have. Absolutely love it.
It is a nice saw!
I think with a muffler mod you’ll see the 562 mk2 is the best imho.
Maybe so!
Firewood Icons..Great video.
Thanks 👍
Thy all good saw love them ( Ty Ron
Thanks RON!
I have Husqvarna, Stihl, Poulan, Champion and Homelite. I use them all for different situations. It's easy to get your money's worth out of any machine
Yup, just take care of them!
Great comparison episode 👍👍👍
Thanks
A sharp chain will help any saw!! I like my 400c, but when I switched to my MS261 yesterday, i realized that someone forgot to sharpen the chain!!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day
Great point!
Purchased echo cs370 15 yrs back and has cut lots of wood and is a Toyota...I know it will start and run...noticed to Husky 372 xp is listed for special offer 849$ on the their site.
Yup, nice!
Good morning Chris!!😀😀
Morning Al!
G’morning Chris ! Awesome episode of cutting ! Chainsaws are like children, there is a favorite, but you mustn’t ever say which one !
Thanks. GoodNightIrene
Ha!!!!! Thanks!
Chris,looked like 👍 everyone was having a cutting good time excellent work and video 😮😊❤
Thanks 👍
I think I need to try a Huskie at some point. I love my STIHLS but smooth sounds good...Cheers Chris!
You should!
Nice video Chris & all. As for the saws, pick your poison-they all were cutting great. GNI
Thanks 👍
Good one👍🏻
Thanks ✌️
Good morning everyone
Hello Sir Stanley!
A good test, did the boys get a special in the Woodyard mento?😊
They did well and yes!
Good Morning Woodhounds!(-:
Hello!
One thing I'll add is.
You do even basic modifications to a saw.
Like making better air flow through the muffler, thats enuf of a change to void your warranty. Removeing base gasket also will void warranty as the jump in compression is rather obvious.
Based on law, you modify a product. You become the end manufacturer of it, and are responsible for the product.
Dosen't matter if it a genuine product or a gray knock-off.
Thanks for the info...good to know!
Depending on your needs, i don't think you could go wrong with either one..
Yup!
Bark box gives up to 10% more power(cc n torque) n 11% cooler
Nice! Thanks!
@@InTheWoodyard welcome
Good video and lots of good info they stacked up about how I would imagine, couple of emails sent your way.
Thanks!
What brand is that helmet? Good video - appreciate you guys
Protos
By Pfanner vom Österreich.
Protos/Pfanner
There may be a little bit of Tom Sawyer in you. Getting other people to do your work under the guise of having fun!
Ha!
A wood cutting-orama. That's a good way to get some wood cut. Open invite to the woodyard! Lol
yup!
So this Stihl is basically a 70cc( 67cc) saw, while the other 2 are 60 cc saws...
No wonder it's gruntier.
yup...all nice saws.
Dollar for dollar its hard to beat echo.
Husky 562xp - 849.99
Stihl 400c - 1049.99
Echo 620 - 649.99
I've run all of these and the 562xp will out cut the other two, but not by enough to make any difference. (Maybe not the 400c if it has a bark box.) The 620 is a super deal, and the Stihl is nice but spendy.
Yup, good observations!
👍👍👍
Thanks!!!
From my observation of the saws the "Stihl" will be cutting after the "Echoes" are long gone.
I would not say that, echos are great saws and a lot of people have ran them for a long time so...you never know!
Absolutely right man, the stihl will be cutting while the others will be going through their 2nd rebuild
@@InTheWoodyard I agree with you Chris, japanese engine seem to last longer even though I'd rather have a more powerful one like stihl (or husky) and be more comfotable too. I have stihl and echo but for me stihl has something more, also in europe we don't have that big difference in price between them.
Dealers matter. Around here Stihl dealers are everywhere. There is probably 4-1 Stihl to Husqvarna dealers at least that are close by. The one main Husqvarna dealer that is fairly close the owner is an asshole. I haven't felt to welcome in there before but I was in the area and they had the sales going I was going to buy a 550xp mark II and passed. Wouldn't pay any attention to me. I know there was supposed to be a sale but everything had the full MSRP on it and he wouldn't pay any attention to me so the hell with it. We do have some other places that sell both but those are pretty much big box stores but they sell the pro stuff too its not like Lowes or something where its only homeowner stuff they sell it all. The one store has basically anything Stihl you could ever want not as much Husqvarna but they have that too just its a big box store so if you need service or parts you really need to go to a dealer. Not sure if there is any Echo dealers here sure there probably is. I think actually one ATV dealer sells them. They have basically everything from trailers, to mowers, tractors, ATVs, jet skis whatever but I know they sold Stihl forever think recently they might have got Echo as well. There is at least one RedMax dealer here too but they are mostly known for their mowers but all they are really is a red Husqvarna. I have one can't think of what the model is but its basically a rear handle version of a top handle saw. Not sure if anybody around here sells the Makita/Dolmar stuff either. I have some Makitas but I didn't get them from a local dealer. I know there is some other brands as well that aren't very common.
yup, a good dealer is important!
All those saws and still wood to be cut!! Get to work!😃
That's the plan! Thanks Boss!
I like saws & trucks that work doesn't matter who made them just get the job done!
Yup, working is what matters!
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Thanks!
As usual, STIHL RUNS THE YARD and always will. It's good to be the King. 👑👑👑👑👑😊👍🏿 #stihlpower #stihlisyourdaddy #stihlrunstheyard
Stihl does not run my yard , I do.
@@InTheWoodyard No sir, Correct. STIHL RUNS EVERY YARD, including yours. That's just the way it is. 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤔 #stihlpower #stihlisyourdaddy #stihlrunstheyard
On today's episode of "The Non-denominational Church of the Holy Order of Chainsaws"...
Thanks, that is a good one! Haaaaa!