Your Dad's Circular Saw Dyno Tested vs Modern Cordless
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I with the help of the rest of the TTC team built a dyno to test my dad's corded Makita 5007 7-1/4" circular saw vs some modern cordless options like Makita's own 18x2 XSH06PT, MetaboHPT C3607DAQ4 and Harbor Freight Hercules HCB721. More circ saws to be included in the future to try and take down the corded monster, so let us know whuch ones you want us to buy.
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Cooll! Now we need some Big Red Army along with Dewalt put into the mix! This road should be interesting. We still reach for the Porter Cable 7.25" (blade left) corded framing saw for heavy work but have the Red Army 7.25" for light plywood cuts.
Makita is advertising 2.1 KILOWATTS on their new grinders. You did this. You know what you must do.
Does that work on iPhone? I wanna buy it but I don’t use computers
@@nojkjk5641 Yes, if you can open a google doc you can view this.
Here's a google doc example: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BxiMVs0XRA5nFMdKvBdBZjgmUUqptlbs74OgvE2upms/edit#gid=0
So I know the dewalt worm drive style 60v has replaced all corded adversaries at my job sites. It’s the only one who can cut through 2x12s like a corded saw
The corded saw isn't just cheaper initially, it's also cheaper over time by not having to replace those batteries.
Depends, with my Ridgid the batteries are free.
Sure if you're a homeowner. But if you're working with these things all day, you're saving a TON of time with a proper battery tool. No more time wasted laying down extension cords and rolling them back. No more screwing around trying to find the tripped breaker. No more headache trying to cut something in a bad place and the god damn cord is stuck somewhere. And wait until he tests the Flexvolt, XGT or Flex, these saws are also way more powerful than a corded one right next to the outlet. That's also something he didn't test, but when your out on the field, you're NEVER right next to the outlet and you lose a lot of power with extension cords.
Batteries last a long time if you take care of them. I have some that are over 10 years old and still work fine.
Other thing I forgot to mention: Most of the time when we're using a circular saw, we're also using framing nailers at the same time. Go ahead and try running a corded circular saw while the air compressor is running (assuming you only have access to one breaker). One less headache we don't have to deal with anymore.
You have to buy and replace a lot of extensions cords though.
@@MrArcticPOWERthat’s the points I was gonna bring up when your job site doesn’t have any electrical the cordless are more useful god forbid you’re 120ft away from the outlet w a 100ft cord 😢 logistics is a huge factor for battery saws
Literally no one else is testing runtime, this is great. The revolutions under load in particular are gunna give you an idea of how much cutting one will do vs the other which I've not seen before
Toolbox Buzz does how many cuts they can make on a battery! Another great channel
@@jetpropulsionlabrador3615 Do you have a timestamp link? I haven't found that i their saw reviews
Didn’t “project farm” test battery saws awhile back?? I’m pretty sure this isn’t the first I’ve seen of this.
@@crandonborth I'm confused, y'all think I'm saying this is the 1st time saws have been tested?
Link to where someone has tested which saws cut for longer on a charge.
No need to test runtime on a corded saw. Runtime unlimited.
Project farm did testing on saws awhile back. He rigged up a test where he was cutting different sizes of lumber with the saw on a sled with weights for moving the saw. He timed how fast the saws cut through the wood.
A different approach to testing but his testing is interesting too.
I watch both channels when looking at buying new tools before I buy. He tests all sorts of things not just power tools, oil, glues, anything viewers can think of.
Project farm costs me a lot of money 😂
Only issues with speed testing is that people are not normally buying a tool to cut or drill fast. They are buying a tool that will last and actually do the job.
I love watching Project Farm, but to be fair, if my Makita drill isn't as fast as a Milwaukee, I don't care. As long as it gets the job done consistently, that's all that matters to me.
@@officialshadetreeamericaDepends, I cut sheets when framing. My HO Milwaukee 7-1/4 (the one you have to actually try to find, It isn't advertised as different, but it has a motor TWICE as large) and I want to rip through 2-1/2 sheets as fast as I can shove my arm through it. This saw will surprise you for sure 😂
@@officialshadetreeamerica You mean DIY kind of people who use their tools for personal projects don't care about speed. People who use their tools professionally and are not paid by the hour, will easily recoup the extra cost of a shorter lifetime if the tool is 10% faster. If you disagree, you need to reevaluate.
I like Project Farm, but I find his tests are not always designed correctly. I understand his concept of having every tool work exactly the same load, but that isn’t the way tools are used.
I love seeing y’all branch out and throwing us woodworkers a bone. Try the xtr. I’d also like to see some routers tested to see if they come close to matching their claims. I mean they’re basically oversized die grinders, right?
Also, the Skil sawsquatch. It’s not a cheap one, but if you ever need to cut a beam the size of a nfl lineman in half, it’s doing it in one pass. 😂 $700 and 16” of pure unadulterated sawdust slinger.
@@Griffinwoodworksrare tool for a test
Routers are great, but not really appropriate for the channel tbh.
I use routers often, so I get it. However , long shot at best
I have the non xtr Makita dual battery cordless worm drive. It’s as good as it gets. The xtr adds more than mine. I have tried bogging it down to see how much it has. It keeps up with my cordless all day. Constant cutting I can run over an hour.
This saw czcams.com/users/postUgkx84IcU5pbZd1Qrz8u4-YRLmJax7kdRi7B comes in handy in many ways. When I had a small (dead) tree fall I started the process of disposal by using this saw and cutting off the small branches. Then slowly work on the small trunk with undercutting and letting it fall down. With many trees on acres of land paying for a tree service can be expensive. It also is nice in that it can be used in hard to get areas like along my creek. It's also safer and quieter than a chainsaw. It obviously can't cut down massive trees but it does work fine for small ones or brush. And of course since I already own a Black
My dad's circular saw cut out the other day, so I went and got a new circular and ended up going with a corded. I figured that with how much set up I'm typically doing when setting up a circular, an extention cord isn't that big of a deal
Agreed. I went with a corded DeWalt 7-1/4 for my main workhorse, but also grabbed a cordless Ryobi 5-1/2 for $25 at direct tool outlet for when I have quick little stuff that I don't want to drag a cord out for.
I mostly use the corded, but it's sure nice to have the cordless option occasionally, especially for $25.
I too got myself a circular saw after my dad's saw died. However, I went with a cordless one simply because I knew I was going to use it in places without electricity.
@@thatguythatdoesstuff5899I cut thru cords so... lol
Maybe times I use my cordless saw for a small task that needs couple or even just 1 cut so a extension cord is a hassle. It would take me more time to plug in and stretch out a extension cord than just walking over with the cordless and being done.
$5 says cleaning the brushes will fix the old one.
Everybody else is saying it, you guys are killing it in this game! Definitely do rear handle Skil saw‘s next! And maybe it would be fun to see the Sawsquatch beam saw from skil done as well 😂
I used to work in timber framing and those Sasquatch saws are so much fun, but so much work to use
Or a Mag 77.
@@jeffmiller4168Makita has an old one too. Dang thing has a blade the size of shop fan 😂
Your dad's saw looks like a modern version (haha) of my 1970-ish Skilsaw. It weighs a ton, is loud and unstoppable. A true American-made beast of a tool. I have a shop full of battery operated woodworking and carpentry tools, but if I have a lot of heavy cutting to do, I use the old one. Thx.
It's not even the most powerful worm drive (skilsaw copy) of a corded makita😂. A fresh set of brushes would have been a better test of the corded saws design.
Thank you for this analysis. I have spent most of my sawing time using a corded circular saw but have now switched to a battery powered unit (DeWalt). This biggest change I have noticed over the years is the improvement in the cutting blades. My corded saw spent far more time working with dulled blades before carbide tipped blades became more affordable and commonly available.
I still have my Dad's American made Black and Decker Super Sawcat from the 1979/80 time frame. And that thing is a BEAST. Absolute monster. I've yet to see anything short of a worm drive cut better than it.
I have one too, they are unbelievable
I've got an old B&D worm drive. It's over 20 lbs, has a bent sheetmetal bottom plate, and no way to change the gearbox lube easily. Not the biggest fan. :/
I'd also be interested in the old skil worm saws and what they produce.
I still use my model 77 worm drive I bought in 1975. Back then you could order a left hand model once a year.
Makita Hypoid, too.
My dad is a retired carpenter and stil has a early 90s Hitachi corded saw and it has never let him down. Only the brushes required attention and it's still a monster through hardwood.
One of the best parts about all Makita circ saws is their smoothness. Ripping long sheet goods and fighting a rough saw is a pain in the ass. Any chance we can get that can factored into these tests?
I wonder if they could rip a 2x4 with the vibrometer or whatever it's called attached. Might have to collab with FarmCraft to build a test rig 😍
On my 3 corder Makita. First 1 just worn out. 2 was dedicated to a diamond blade for fiber score a line in concrete. Whatever. 3 i found at a estate sale. Almost brand new. 25.00. They are great saws.
Makita has always had some damn good corded power. Only other saw I’ve used that cut as smooth as my dads makita circular was my grandpas old Craftsman table saw from the early 80s
I remember my father figure back in the day (late 90's) was SO pumped with his new cordless circular saw, I _think_ it was a Dewalt, but it was tiny, I think 5 inch blade, running on NiCad batteries, lol.
But he was SO excited that he came over to my house to show me and my brother how he could cross cut stuff without being plugged into a wall! Just started cutting random scrap wood we had laying around, it was glorious. He could cut like 20 things before the battery died. He had to flip 2X lumber to cut it on both sides for a cross cut.
It was the bees knees for little 10 year old me, and he was as excited as a kid in a candy shop. I can't imagine what he would think of the state of cordless tools now.
Great tests for "Dad's" saw against the cordless. I'd like to recommend testing of the Ridgid brand (Home Depot) 7-1/4" cordless saw if you'll be doing more of these great tests in future videos.
Cordless tools really do have their place especially in new construction where electricity hasn't been brought in yet.
I'm happy with my Hercules saw. I already had batteries so the saw at $99 made sense to me, and it is totally worth it! Put a Diablo blade on it and you have a winning combo.
I just recently bought into the Hercules platform and I’m so glad to see so many of their tools consistently performing well in your tests! Thanks TTC!
Can you post any updates about the Hercules tools? I am reluctant to purchase them because I have Milwaukee tools now, and use only Milwaukee for work, so I have a ton of Milwaukee batteries around. But the Hercules circular saw with the right blade, and 7 1/4" blade seems to have very high build quality. The only reason I am hesitant is because the lithium ion battery quality of Milwaukee is basically infinite; all my batteries are approaching 5 to 9 years old and are still as good as new, despite being used daily. Although I've found Milwaukee M18 tools to be extremely unreliable in high humidity conditions.
@@starseeddeluxe I got rid of all my Dewalt stuff recently and just have Bauer, Hercules, and a few Ridgid tools. Got tired of all the ridiculous prices for Dewalt tools and batteries, and they don't perform all that great considering the cost of them. I have more Bauer stuff than Hercules, but all the Hercules tools I have perform very well and I can't tell any difference really other than the price between the Dewalt and Hercules stuff....I haven't had a chance to really use the Hercules 1/2" impact enough to say yet how it does, but I bet it'll do just as good if not better than my Dewalt.
The Ridgid stuff is good as you get lifetime battery replacement, and service, but it seems pretty limited in the overall 18V tool selection compared to other brands.
Bauer has a lot bigger selection of tools than Hercules, and neither have nearly selection as Ryobi and Milwaukee.
I don't really think it matters what brand you buy, as long as they do the job for you, and you can easily get batteries and chargers along the way...the more major brands are good as well as some of the lower end weekend warrior and DIYer stuff which I'd classify the Hercules and Bauer line into, as well as the Hart and Kobalt stuff. The problem is, once you start with a certain brand you kind of stick to it because you got the batteries and chargers already, and in most cases you can then just buy bare tools as needed. It got to the point with Dewalt where the dang batteries cost as much as the tool if not more, and I finally said enough and took my money and tool lineup elsewhere.
You've already got Milwaukee, honestly they're pretty good, if you don't need a tool that Milwaukee doesn't have, I really wouldn't bother switching. I kind of like that pack out system they have and the shop wall hanging stuff they're coming out with.
I have a Skil Mag77 that I have had for a couple of decades, maybe 3 by now. Last year when I was putting up a shed at our new home, I had some issues using my arm. Didn't want to lift the weight. I went over to Coastal and picked up a 20v 6 1/2 inch DeWalt bare tool, I had batteries from drills, drivers, weed eater, mower and mini shop vac, so sticking with the yellow and black tools. I got the shed built, cut 2x12s (some treated), t&g OSB floor panels, steel roofing, t-111 siding, many 2x4s and sundry trim pieces. Even though my arm is better, I am still using the little 20v saw and ignoring my beloved Mag77.
The 'killer app' for the cordless tools is that you're not dragging extention cords around behind you. In addition to being trip hazards, they're just a pita. However, for that you give up things like cut capacity or power or whatever, plus they cost more.
I inherited my grandfather's old Skil saw when he passed and it's a beast. I will go to it or my Craftsman Evolve circular saw to cut wood all the time over my cordless circular saw. You can't beat the consistent power distributed from corded tools.
I would love to see some of the old brushed 18v tools compared to now. Like the older DeWalts, vs the newer ones etc. Some of those old brushed tools really did pack a punch!
If you have the time, you should 100% do a series on corded and cordless circular saws. This would be a huge boon for DIYers looking for a cheap saw that actually does what it claims, and I'm sure pros would benefit as well.
DeWalt cordless saws would be cool to see here as well, the DeWalt 20v doesn't seem like a bad saw, I've used it on jobs before, but it does struggle with heavier loads, whereas the 60v model seems to be able to power through them much easier.
Mine is a bit wimbly compared to my mag 77 I bought because Essential Craftsman, but it's also hecking light so I use it on more things. Basically, unless I need to eat some timbers lunch, my DeWalt comes out.
I have the 20v xr 7 1/4 and it does really good for most jobs. That said, big boy jobs the flex volt is evidently is a world of this own. From what i have been told by a few guys that have the flex volt, its a corded saw in power with out the cord.
Man TTC you going ham again. So excited for all the new stuff to come. 💪
Awesome!! So glad you are testing circular saws now! Great move, Im excited to watch this segment “fill out”!
I have been a carpenter my whole life. I still have and use my Skill Saw all metal model 77 7 1/4" worm drive. I rebuilt it once just because it was old. It didn't need it. I bought it in 1975. I have many other saws including cordless but for heavy work nothing can touch it. You can take your finger off the trigger and still cut a 2x4. Keep in mind a heavier saw is much more stable. Thank you for your time.
I'm not in construction but just bought a new Skil Mag 77 Worm Drive a few weeks ago, and I'm not sure why I didn't buy one sooner....the weight of it makes it far more stable especially when ripping sheet goods. Its got tons of power to cut through whatever you are doing, it just feels really good to use compared to the regular sidewinder circular saws I've been using for 30 years LOL.
The Mag 77 is a little lighter weight than your version, but still heavy enough to keep itself on track when cutting sheet goods and other longer cutting tasks.
I have a cordless circular saw, but I only use it when I'm just doing a small quick project, other than that the corded saw comes out.
I just ordered that makita saw yesterday as a bare tool for less than $100, glad to see I made a pretty good choice. Definitely interested in seeing more 7.25 saws and maybe some smaller ones too
I only use my tools once or twice an year, and with the corded ones I’m happy that I don’t need to get new batteries after forgetting about them for a long time.
Would be interesting to see how the Metabo HPT C3607 does using the ET36A AC adapter.
Great video it put a smile on my face.👍it made my day better and reminded me of my dad and good memories thank you
love the branching out of other tools. Though, was surprised not to see team Red and Team Yellow and black in the running. maybe next vid?
I’m sure there is a budget. Team yellow and team red are definitely more powerful, saws. But also more expensive. 750-800 gets you one of each if you’re looking at the flexvolt and fuel saws, vs three saws here. Gets more spots filled into the chart, plus keeps the hype for the popular models alive.
@@juanc5149$750-$800? Not sure where you are, but when shopping for tools I'm always looking for a few good deals and I've purchased that Milwaukee Fuel 7 1/4" rear handle circular saw for about$225 bare tool from The Home Depot during one of their many sales throughout the year.
This is bare tool version, but I already own so many Milwaukee chargers and batteries, there's just no reason for me to get the kit when the kits usually only come with the XC batteries and not the better HO batteries.
Where are you paying $750-800 for a Fuel or Flex Volt saw? Lol
Flex with the 10amp flex stack is an absolute monster. Cant wait to see you test it
I just bought two of the HF saws and two of the biggest 12AH batteries. I haven't had a chance to run them yet. It was good to see they did well in the testing.
TTC doing God’s work yet again. Please do rear handles next.
Love this ! Definitely want to see the whole lot DeWalt, Milwaukee, Ryobi, Flex, Bauer Rigid ! Definitely one of my rip channels! TTC and PF you guys are forcing the industry to be honest!! And step up !
love it . looking forward to more comparisons
I love my first generation cordless brushed 20v Dewalt with right side drive. the blade is on the left, 'the correct side'. It's my go to for small quick jobs. But it doesn't compare at all to my 1980s corded worm drive skil saw. Which also has the blade on the proper side. I use it on everything from wood to metals, concrete, ect. Ive never had it bog down.
And I've stocked up on brushes. I've only had to change them once so with the supply I have it should last the rest of my life and at least half way through my youngest son's lol.
I love this channel so much! Keep up the great work!
Love this kind of content. Great work!
Congratulations on the 300k subscribers
I love my new, lightweight, sharp and smooth 18v makita but regularly pull out the heavy milwaukee my dad gave me for my birthday 20 years back. Still great after so, so many cuts. Nothing beats that power and durability.
I doubt it would take the top spot, but I'd like to see a Ryobi tested, since that is the battery ecoculture I have.
Fantastic, thanks for the comparisons. 🎉
I think you actually summed it up when you started the video.. I already have one manufacturer's batteries, and I'm not about to go and re-invest in a new battery format without some ground-breaking tech behind the update.
Based on something I saw in another comment, I think you guys should do a video on how different lengths and gauges affect the performance of the corded one. Maybe do it once you've gathered more data on cordless ones so we can see if a 100' 14awg extension puts the corded one behind some of the cordless.
This is an important subject, and it makes me cringe reading Amazon reviews on welders and other tools, when people don't realize that the extension cord will cause a tool to malfunction.
That was more interesting than I expected. I'll stick with corded though as it isn't something I use every day (or even every month)
Will be checking out more video's.
Awesome video, and something that I have been contemplating lately as I have my FIL's ancient Craftsman corded saw I have been using.
Would love to see the Skil TrueHVL 48V, Skil CR5429B 40V (20Vx2), Makita XGT and DeWalt FlexVolt!
As I always say corded saws are King when it comes to run time 😂
But how are they going to sell you the newest fanciest batteries every two years???
I always enjoy your videos - great work! I think you should toss in a few more of the common dad's tools. I have a cheap Skilsaw that I bought at least 40 years ago that I'm sure is bean deficient compared to that Makita. I'm no carpenter, but I'm wondering if the Makita is the right benchmark.
Great testing especially the runtime info. I’ve had the same Makita 36v saw for a about 1 1/2 years now. Just got tired of always dealing with the cord. Paid $249 for the same kit plus a free tool. Super smooth especially when ripping sheet goods. Keep up the excellent testing. Would like to see the DeWalt flex volt tested.
OMG thank you so much!!!! I’ve been wanting to know how these saws stack up for a long time. Can’t wait for all the saws your gonna test! Seriously excited for this one! One request, please please do the absolute beast (it seems to be) of Skil 20v dual battery saw! I’ve used it and it seems absurdly good but I admit I haven’t used many high end cordless circ saws.
Another great segment from TTC.
Would like to also see a comparison of top vs rear handle, if the dyno can handle spinning the other way.
I have some old Skilsaw and its a beast. I was cutting some veneer on my trailer and almost cut the trailer (steel) too, went pretty deep and now I have a reminder to check how close I'm cutting 😁
Very impressed with the circ saw that came with my Craftsman V20 Max 7 tool combo, 1st one ive ever owned/used and i definitely prefer it over other ways of cutting wood.
I've got that same corded Makita saw. I also have their single battery brushless version. For most cuts the battery version gets used but there is the odd cut in 4" maple where I turn to the corded one.
Wow another test setup, this is awesome! Of course you know I really want to see the XGT model tested now, should be more powerful of course :)
Excellent work!! Recently stumbled on your channel hand really enjoy the content! Would love to see a skilsaw worm drive both corded and cordless, and the dewalt flex volt saw. Great job as usual!
thanks :D really wanted to see this one
My dad received a Black & Decker corded drill and circ saw as wedding presents. I used them for years before giving them back to him. Great tools.
That said, cordless tools are really handy.
I can't wait until you test the 20v and 60v dewalt saws!!!!
This is awesome I have this exact same makita thats older than me I think (I’m only 24) I inherited it’s cool to see how it compares!
Excited for this series, interested to see how the DeWalt DCS578 goes
I'd love to see what you get from the wormdrive skilsaw that thing is like the turbo diesels from its day. they're Heavy, power hungry, and slow but can move heaven and earth before bogging down.
I came to suggest a worm drive also
He's not testing torque though, only power output so it should be less than a normal one.
It would be interesting to see the corded models compared. The prices vary wildly but the main advertised spec (amps) is the same on a $50 Skil as the Makita.
Great saws from Makita. But biggest gripe I've got with both the LXT 06 used here and the XGT version are the blade guards. They LOVE to randomly grab onto whatever your cutting and prevent you from moving forward with the cut. So you find yourself often holding the blade guard up with a thumb. Rarely ever have that issue with a couple Dewalts and a Milwaukee Ive used.
Great video love it, I was considering the Hercules I'm impressed I have their brushless hammer drill and impact. I'd like to see the Kobalt XTR model tested, I'm not much interested in the regular Kobalt
Wouldnt trade my Dewalt cordless saws for anything. That being said I keep my old Makita corded saw on the shelf in the tool trailer just in case, almost as a nostalgia piece honestly.
The timing of this video is eerie. This very morning at 9AM , after first hunting for the nearest electrical outlet, I used the exact model Makita corded circular saw in your comparison to cut a 2" thick pecan slab. One of the contractors standing nearby made a comment about how much time I would've saved had I used a cordless saw. I immediately remarked that a cordless circular saw would've taken twice the time to make the same cut. But as I went about making the cut, I wondered, " How *would* a cordless saw handle a cut like this?".
We gotchu
As a lifelong user of circular saws on a daily basis at work,I would like to add the ability to crank over to a 53 degree angle cut and the quality of the base was a huge factor in my everyday use of circular saws.I am retired now but if I remember correctly at the time the Milwaukee circ saw was the one my shop had that was my go to saw for those qualities.
when I built my kitchen cabinets I used my 18v Makita 6-1/2" old brushed cordless saw for just about everything. Ripping through 3 stacked sheets of 3/4" plywood without much trouble.
Someone finally is doing a more technical test that takes all variables out on circular saws! These dyno test you guys have been doing have been great, and I hope you guys are able to get to cordless rear handle saws. I have the skill 48v 7 1/4” rear handle and swear its more powerful then the corded circular saws. It would be interesting to finally see how that stacks up to the others like the dewalt or milwaukee.
Also, something I have been thinking that would be a cool thing for you guys to try to test, would be a technical assessment of who has the “best” batteries not only with watts/temperature testing, but maybe life degradation after a certain amount of uses/ recharges and durability. This comes about because lately I have been annoyed about my milwaukee 8.0 and 12.0 batteries all well on their ways of dying in less then 1.5 years (used with chainsaw and sds max hammer mainly), while flexvolt batteries at work have lasted 2 years and show no fading yet with daily use on blowers, chainsaws, and rotary hammers.
I use to use those makita but I changed to Dewalt for the brake, the brake helps with safety, but I have a xtr 24v I use it on 75% of everything except framing, it is really good, I have started switching to flex so I would imagine the flex would be better
I'm really happy with my Ridgid Octane circular saw. 8Ah lasts me forever, and the blade brake is huge for me compared to corded freespinning
Very interesting test. Ive been really impressed witht the Bosch brushless 7 1/4" circular saw. Seems like it has crazy power. Use the 8 ah or 12 though. Thats where it is happiest!
If using corded tools in the workshop, fit an IEEE plug and socket (kettle) to the tool about 6 inches from the tool. Then run a power lead overhead to your bench, can even have a coiled lead towards the bench. When working it's so easy to swap power tools without lots of different leads in the way.
The female, shrouded connector with all the pins covered on the power side.
Glad you guys are branching out to test all the tools with your dynos.
I really hope you consider looking at crowsfoot wrenches, as there is no other data on them. They are the most critical wrenches for tolerance and strength.
Great Video!
Would be interesting to see the difference between a rear handle worm drive style vs side handle.
Excellent work 🙏
Would like to see the 60V dewalt tested in the future. Was one of my first cordless purchases after being weary of batteries. It was an eye opener. I gave away my 30 year old corded milwaukee after the first time using it.
I've noticed many homeowners invest in cordless tools because they want "what the pros use" when they'd be fine using the cheapo harbor freight corded version the few times a year they need it. These are often the same people who buy tricked out pickup trucks to commute to the office and haul a load of mulch for their yard a few times a year. These are also the people that tend to be the most defensive of their cordless purchases.
I agree. When I was doing finish carpentry, and installing garage doors I had the Dewalt stuff. Up until recently I'd just buy a Dewalt 20V tool when I wanted....but the prices have gone up by a lot and so have the battery prices, and their tools are kind of on the lower end of the power curve compared to other brands and I'm not in the carpentry or door installation market anymore, and tired of paying the ridiculous prices for Dewalt stuff. So I finally sold all my Dewalt tools, tool boxes, etc. I have Bauer and Hercules stuff now and other than being a heck of a lot cheaper there isn't any difference that most people would ever notice...and most people yep, they don't need those expensive fancy tools, they have them to look cool for their buddies, but the DIYer level tools work just fine. I do have a few Ridgid 18V tools as well.
@@wildbill23c I do see what you are saying as I have my collection of Makita tools from when I was remodeling and for the house I have more than enough power and energy, but I don't see where selling the tools that I have and buying into another brand would benefit me? These things will be still running when I am dead and gone. I still use my impact quite often for any automotive or motorcycle that I work on.
I do agree that there isn't any reason to spend the kind of money that I did if you aren't going to be using the tool daily, 1/3rd of that price will work just fine for the normal homeowner.
I could be missing something different about your situation, or you just wanted a nice new set for the house, and it's easy for me to see logic in buying new tools, even if it's not there. Lol.
I don't care, it's new tools man; you cannot be wrong in doing that.
Can’t wait to see y’all test 6.5” saws. I just picked up the Bosch & 2 4ahs for $100
Cool, interesting test!
i remember a over a decade ago i had a cordless saw from FESTOOL, one of the first cordless circular saws and it was amazing, not needing an outlet just to make 2-3 cuts comes in handy if the next outlet is half a mile away.
Nice video. I'd vote for the Dewalt DCS578. I have the HPT saw, it works fine, don't even have the corded adapter because I also have some dad saws, including the Dewalt worm drive DWS535--greatvtool, pretty heavy but cuts dead straight without bogging.
6:03 That Makita and the rear handle saw have a yearly promotion where you get the saw, dual charger and FOUR 5Ah batteries for $250-$270. Amazing value.
I think you are killing it. Buying new and multiple pieces of testing equipment to bring us some interesting and fun stacks of info. I was wondering if some rear handled battery saws could be included in this because they are not worm driven saws? They are still a direct driven saw. Like the newer Ridgid and Milwaukee saws. Really though any brand saws you could get your hands on to test would be awesome. Love watching and being interested in your vids.
I wish my dad was still alive, he would have really enjoyed this episode. He was a Ph.D by trade, but work worker by hobby and we grew up calling those skill saws, no-one ever called them circular saws. I THINK there are some old saws in his shop that must be close to 60 years old if not older.
I’ve also yet to make the switch to a cordless circ saw. I don’t use them super often, and I’m always near an outlet when I do. I got an old corded Porter-Cable Saw Boss from my neighbor and it does just fine for me.
You guys are fantastic. So nice to have a channel that actually tests everything, not just provides some baseless review. Keep up the excellent work!
I've been in the construction business about 45 years. I've used just about every brand of corded 7-1/4" saws available. The corded Makita saw is hands down the best all-around corded saw on the market. I've Had them so hot that smoke has been billowing out of the motor housing from unconventional use, and they don't give up. I'm surprised that the plastic motor housings don't melt.
A few years back I picked up the Flex 24 volt 7-1/4" battery saw. I carried both the Flex battery saw and the Makita corded saw on my truck for a few years. It's great having the advantage of cordless but over time I found myself using the corded Makita saw far more than the Flex saw. At this time, the Makita is on my truck and the Flex is shelved in the garage. For quick cuts I'll use my Makita 6-1/2" cordless.
Makita may not check all the high/best spec boxes but there's no denying the quality of their products.
The DeWalt 60v seems like a monster. Worth looking at if you're in the market.
Love mine
I have the Dewalt 60v I have the makita Corded the baddest one and the baddest Milwaukee it cuts faster than all of them it doesn't play!
I have the Dewalt Flexvolt saw, the original one. It's a monster and lighter than the Milwaukee. Not the most accurate saw out there, but I have other tools for accuracy. What I use it for, it's perfect for, it just munches through everything.
Great video - the hercules is surprisingly impressive! The sale that has been running for a few months now makes it only $100 for the tool, a 5aH battery, and a charger. Crazy good deal.
I mean for the small amount of cutting I do my dad's whatever brand corded does well enough but I'm still curious enough to be in anticipation of the next video
Great video! You should totally test out the 2732-20 7 1/4" from Milwaukee!
Cant wait to see the Dewalt flexvolt saw tested!
I would love to see the new gen 3 M12 hammer drill tested along with the M12 gen 3 impact driver. Love the content
I have used the same electric Makita saw for probably 15 or 20 years. It is very dependable & a great saw! I bought it on sale at a local lumber yard store for around $100.00 or a little more.
Yeah, I have what I believe is an older version of it (from the 70s or early 80s, I think) that I inherited from my dad. It's bulletproof, but that's about all I can say for it. It's noisy, slow to start, heavy as f***, etc. I'll never get rid of it- it's a great tool, not to mention it's a reminder of my dad, but it definitely shows its age. I actually have it disassembled at the moment, I'm going through and replacing bearings, cleaning out the decades of sawdust, and just generally giving it a refresh. Maybe it'll be faster to start and a little quieter after that.
I have an old all metal Skil sidewinder that was my grandfather's saw. I also have a nice Ridgid octane. Using the two side by side, I prefer the corded, it's actually similar weight with a big octane battery, but the weight distribution on the skil is better. Unless I have a reason to need the mobility and portability, I reach for the skil first. So when I'm making a long rip in my shop where I have access to power anywhere anyway, I'll use the skil. When I'm rough cutting stuff before I mill it, I'll use the skill.
I'll also point out the corded saw, from what I've found is well... More powerful.
Oh finally circular saws! Please test the beefy Skil saw worm gear models. I've always wanted to know how they compare. They even have a huge battery powered model now.