Great idea screwing it in first with non security screws. Will do that for the second door. I lucked out with the first door spent a lot of time with having it lined up just right. That was the door with the big 4 in security lag screws. Wouldn't want to have to remove those!
This is very helpful because it doesn't show a "perfect" installation under ideal conditions that makes the person look good. I'm likely to make the mistake of not checking the top too and would've been frustrated, this is a solid reminder of what not to do as well as what to do. Thanks.
Thanks! A lot of people try to make everything look so easy and it can be frustrating when I try to do it and it doesn't work out. So I like to show my DIY mistakes. I think it helps give people a realistic idea of how these types projects can go wrong so they can get it done right in the end.
Great video! Thanks for showing the mistake so i can prevent from making it myself. I also like the tip abiut using my own screws to make sure it is hunged leveled before putting on the security screws.
Thanks! Yeah if you are off a little bit it can be tough to adjust the heavy duty hardware that these things come with. So getting it all lined up first really helps a lot.
This is just for installation purposes. Once you have it all lined up you can install the included tamper proof bolts. But if you are just using this as a heavy duty screen door you can leave in the screws. Plus most thieves don't carry a drill with different drill bits. I think most of them just look for unlocked doors and windows.
Thanks for the tip on using your head instead of calling Sammy for help😊 thanks for uploading. I also uploaded a video on how to install a screen door on CZcams
Great video! Question for you: I have a 30x80 door. This model starts at 32 inches, but I’m not seeing any reason why it wouldn’t work for my opening as long as the trim is wide enough. Do you agree? Nothing besides the door handle/lockset extends into void between the surface-mounted security door and the inner door, right? Thanks!
The security door will be mounted to the door frame surrounding your existing door. It will open outwards and should be larger than your house door so that it can be attached to the door frame. To get the right size measure your door frame from side to side and top to bottom. As long as its not larger or shorter than your door frame you should be good to go.
Thanks for the reminder. It can be made with a few 2x4's or you can buy a nice kit for it. I am planning on making a video about both techniques but I have been kind of busy with some other projects. I added a link to the kit in the video description if you want to check it out.
I plan on making a video about it. You can use a pair of pliers or some vice grips to loosen the one-way bolts a little. If it is not off by that much you may be able to use some wood shims to twist the security door frame a little bit to adjust it. If it is really bad you may have to take out the bolts and fill the holes with wood shims and put in new holes. But unscrewing the bolts can be a reel chore. So hopefully it is only off a little bit and can be adjusted.
@@devdeuce93 I haven't tried that but it sounds like a pretty good way to get the bolts out. Most people just use a wrench or cut the heads off and grind down the bolts.
I wouldn't say you don't have to measure. I would just say that it can be challenging to get the measurements right. If your door jamb is square and your measurements all line up this should be an easy install. But if everything is a little bit off this technique can make the installation go a little smoother. If you mess up on the measurements and you install the door with the tamper proof hardware it can be difficult to adjust it. That's why I use the regular screws to install the door. Once you get everything lined up right you can install the tamper proof hardware.
@@futbol1972 I think getting some shims will help out a lot. I didn't use any shims the first time I installed a security door and I had some issues with the door jamb not being plumb. The other issue is the threshold. I built a few of them but they sell a kit that looks way better. Other than that installing the doors with regular screws first is the best tip. Doing that allows you to recover quickly form any measuring mistakes.
@@futbol1972 Also remember that the 7 ft doors are reversable but the 8 ft doors aren't. So if you have a larger door you will need to get one that swings the right direction.
The toughest part is getting it all to line up right. So you will need a good drill and a big level and maybe some wood shims. But for $300 you can buy a pretty nice drill and level.
Try loosening the bolts on the lock assembly a little at a time, sometimes when tightened down they make lock really tough to lock/unlock. Also look closely at the bolt of the lock as it closes towards door you can use a pencil to mark on outside of jamb the top and bottom of the bolt right before it shuts, then open it up and see if the locking part is in position with the hole in the jamb.
I like the way when he showed is mistake and correct it!!!!!
Thanks!
Great video. You really illustrate a lot of ways to deal with the potential pitfalls of tackling this sort of job on your own. Thank You.
Thanks I appreciate that!
Your video is the only video that shows you installing the door handles.
Thanks! It got a little dark when I was installing the door knob but I tried to show as much as I could.
Great idea screwing it in first with non security screws. Will do that for the second door. I lucked out with the first door spent a lot of time with having it lined up just right. That was the door with the big 4 in security lag screws. Wouldn't want to have to remove those!
Yeah taking a little extra time to getting it all lined up right can really make a difference.
This is very helpful because it doesn't show a "perfect" installation under ideal conditions that makes the person look good. I'm likely to make the mistake of not checking the top too and would've been frustrated, this is a solid reminder of what not to do as well as what to do. Thanks.
Thanks! A lot of people try to make everything look so easy and it can be frustrating when I try to do it and it doesn't work out. So I like to show my DIY mistakes. I think it helps give people a realistic idea of how these types projects can go wrong so they can get it done right in the end.
Well for starters you should have done it in the daylight. Can't see anything you're doing.
I'm about to do this for one of my rentals. Thumbs up given! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! I have always liked putting these doors on my houses. They are a lot more durable than a regular screen door.
Great video! Thanks for showing the mistake so i can prevent from making it myself. I also like the tip abiut using my own screws to make sure it is hunged leveled before putting on the security screws.
Thanks! Yeah if you are off a little bit it can be tough to adjust the heavy duty hardware that these things come with. So getting it all lined up first really helps a lot.
Put top bar first with level then do door trow a sweep at the bottom
Sounds like you have installed a few of these doors too.
1 problem sir. Thieves can easly grab a drill with a star bit and take the door off.
This is just for installation purposes. Once you have it all lined up you can install the included tamper proof bolts. But if you are just using this as a heavy duty screen door you can leave in the screws. Plus most thieves don't carry a drill with different drill bits. I think most of them just look for unlocked doors and windows.
Thank you for making this video, very helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you ❤
You're welcome 😊
Thanks for the tip on using your head instead of calling Sammy for help😊 thanks for uploading. I also uploaded a video on how to install a screen door on CZcams
I will check it out
Great video! Question for you: I have a 30x80 door. This model starts at 32 inches, but I’m not seeing any reason why it wouldn’t work for my opening as long as the trim is wide enough. Do you agree? Nothing besides the door handle/lockset extends into void between the surface-mounted security door and the inner door, right? Thanks!
The security door will be mounted to the door frame surrounding your existing door. It will open outwards and should be larger than your house door so that it can be attached to the door frame. To get the right size measure your door frame from side to side and top to bottom. As long as its not larger or shorter than your door frame you should be good to go.
@@ThatHobby Much appreciated!
Well done!
Thanks!
Video on building threshold for the bottom of the security door?
Thanks for the reminder. It can be made with a few 2x4's or you can buy a nice kit for it. I am planning on making a video about both techniques but I have been kind of busy with some other projects. I added a link to the kit in the video description if you want to check it out.
@@ThatHobby keep up the authentic videos! :)
Nailed it! 👍
Thanks!
I need to adjust my door but don't know how to remove the one-way frame bolts without grinding them off.
Is there a secret to that?
I plan on making a video about it. You can use a pair of pliers or some vice grips to loosen the one-way bolts a little. If it is not off by that much you may be able to use some wood shims to twist the security door frame a little bit to adjust it. If it is really bad you may have to take out the bolts and fill the holes with wood shims and put in new holes. But unscrewing the bolts can be a reel chore. So hopefully it is only off a little bit and can be adjusted.
I used a grinder to cut new slits into the bolt that allowed me to back it out with a flathead
@@devdeuce93 I haven't tried that but it sounds like a pretty good way to get the bolts out. Most people just use a wrench or cut the heads off and grind down the bolts.
you can buy a removal tool from your local hardware store.
So i dont have to meassure anything, just eyeball it, make sure is level and thats it?
I wouldn't say you don't have to measure. I would just say that it can be challenging to get the measurements right. If your door jamb is square and your measurements all line up this should be an easy install. But if everything is a little bit off this technique can make the installation go a little smoother. If you mess up on the measurements and you install the door with the tamper proof hardware it can be difficult to adjust it. That's why I use the regular screws to install the door. Once you get everything lined up right you can install the tamper proof hardware.
@ThatHobby thank u. Great video by the way.. any tips for a newbie? I will install 3 security doors at my house today
@@ThatHobby I will get them at home depot
@@futbol1972 I think getting some shims will help out a lot. I didn't use any shims the first time I installed a security door and I had some issues with the door jamb not being plumb. The other issue is the threshold. I built a few of them but they sell a kit that looks way better. Other than that installing the doors with regular screws first is the best tip. Doing that allows you to recover quickly form any measuring mistakes.
@@futbol1972 Also remember that the 7 ft doors are reversable but the 8 ft doors aren't. So if you have a larger door you will need to get one that swings the right direction.
And to think I was gonna pay someone $300 to do that.....
The toughest part is getting it all to line up right. So you will need a good drill and a big level and maybe some wood shims. But for $300 you can buy a pretty nice drill and level.
My door is not locking wat did I do wrong?
The deadbolt may not be lining up with the hole on the security door frame. Check that and see if you can get it to line up a little better.
U can also adjust the dead bolt by loosening the screws on it to raise or lower it a little bit. Something that can work to get it to line up right.
@@ThatHobbyit’s impossible to remove the screws literally spent 3 hours can’t get it off
@@ThatHobby I will try that but if that doesn’t work do u think if I cut the hole open a little with a carbide cutter that would work?
Try loosening the bolts on the lock assembly a little at a time, sometimes when tightened down they make lock really tough to lock/unlock. Also look closely at the bolt of the lock as it closes towards door you can use a pencil to mark on outside of jamb the top and bottom of the bolt right before it shuts, then open it up and see if the locking part is in position with the hole in the jamb.
Is that surface mount door ?
I am not 100% sure on the terminology but yeah these security doors mount to the outside surface of the door frame.
Awesome man thank you for sharing but that voice doesn't fit you! LOL!!!!...
Not sure what that means? But I am glad you liked the video! LOL