Crazy prices at the moment, I test drove a 420i last week, £45000, I currently have a 2017 420i with around £10000 to pay off, but given the car is worth around £17500 private I won't be buying, 4 years ago I bought my 420i for £24000, 9 months old 3500 miles, lots of options were on it. Current prices are just way too high, they tried to tell me it is a shortage but I get the feeling dealers are just hiking prices to make up for covid.
I listened to Joe's argument and felt it didn't substantiate the price. 40k for a 2 litre ENTRY LEVEL 4 series that does 0-60 in 7+ seconds (184 bhp lol!) is simply absurd, and this will be proven in the resale value. I believe this ballooning in value of cars is all due to people purchasing through finance and leasing. Higher pricing allows for larger monthly repayment prior to lease ending. I can't imagine why this car should cost more than 25-30k. It may look like a sexy coupe (to some), but the performance tells a completely different story. And as for the price of the M... I think I will stop my rant now...
Exactly, it wasn't that long ago when I purchased a 320i for sub 30k. It's the fact that everyone buys on finance that's causing these crazy inflated prices. You used to be able to get a new e92 M3 in 2011 for around £50k, the new M3 about to be released will be in the region of £75k!! A 50% price hike. I don't know about you but my wage hasn't increased by 50% in ten years.
I had regular use of a 318i in the early 2000s and remember it as a lovely car. Not fast in a straight line but the handling was better than many sports cars I've driven. Fantastic balance.
Saw one of these at my office car park...still not a fan of how it looks. But, thanks for sharing your thoughts about how it drives as well as the steering.
40,000 pounds is cheap compared to Australian prices. We are hit with luxury car tax on top of GST which will be far more drive away price than the UK drive away price will be. Our 911 s drive away price is roughly $350,000 which is roughly 175,000 pounds, that’s why I have an M2 comp lol. New BM looks really great mate.
I really can't understand why I would swap my e92 335i (N54) which costs me zero per month to own for a 40-50k bill for a base model. I have rwd, 340 bhp and 500nm with a 0-60 of around 4.5 seconds that would just leave this standing and Im sure is more fun to drive. I have memory seats which are largely the same, cruise control and all that good stuff, and an older but still similar looking interior. As nice as a new car would be, I can't justify putting another new car on the road and getting rid of mine at these prices. The cost of some of these new motors is just too much IMO, and I even prefer the looks of the e92. Id have to get an M440i to put my old car in its place (and performance wouldnt be all that much different Im sure) and they can be getting on for 60k now, bonkers.
Nice review! I like the adequate power , it’s enough to enjoy the car without breaking the speed law and rear wheel drive gives you a sense of enjoyment.
I recently traded in my Volvo V40 for a 420dx GT and very happy with it. PROS: Solid car and great brakes. Enough power in sport mode to push you back into the seat. In eco mode gas mileage is just over 40 mpg and it's a very comfortable ride (I live and work in a moutainous rural area). I have the brushed aluminum interior and the M sports seats, no regrets. CONS: My wife and teenage daughter complain that the back seat is too upright to be comfortable on long rides. The heater takes about 10 minutes to make a difference on cold mornings compared to the Volvo that did it in 5. I would like to have fog and cornering lights to see the edge of curvy mountain roads at night.
For those who hate the front, theres a Company called Avembra, you can look them up on Instagram, they are making a replacement front that honestly makes it look amazing.
For the reverse assistant that remembers the last 50 metres, go back and a look at Joe's press trip for the BMW 8 Series. He featured that system and neck breaking launch control with Stef ABtv
I have it on my 3 series and it does work well. Always a bit nervous as it does everything. On my previous Audi you did the gear changes and accelerator / brake. It does it well though although i tend to use it occasionally to parallel park if I’m being a bit lazy.
😂😂😂😂 Amazing! It's not the most idea place to film, but after moving recently I've struggled to find anywhere... I remember you, silver one with AMG wheels? 👌
@@PixelVogue Yeah the exact same road that Harry uses for all his videos. It’s usually a fairly under-used road to be honest, considering how nice it is to drive, which was why I was surprised to see Joe. Although saying that, this area’s becoming a hub of activity for the automotive world. I regularly see JWW’s GT3 at Bicester heritage, which makes sense as that’s where ‘The Bunker’ is. Though I’ve never actually seen him
@@JoeAchilles1 you’ve moved from Denham? Will miss seeing your M2 Comp around but glad won’t have to make my eyes suffer looking at that 4 series front end 😂
Just took delivery of my M340i in Spain. It has San Marino Individual Blue Metalic Paint at 6000 euro. Carbon Fiber Factory fitted roof at 3300 euro. Fiona red full dash and seats Merino leather at 4800. Carbon fiber diffuser side skirts and interior carbon mouldings with m performance leather and alcantera steering wheel at 5500 euro. I also specked HARMEN KARDEN AND A WHOLE LOT MORE. 225 FRONT AND 255 back Michelin NON RUN FLAT TYRES. Thank you Joe for your advise. I had run flats on my previous x3 m40i and the difference in comfort is like night and day. Run flats are KING
I don't know - I saw the new M4 yesterday in Heathrow, and it just didn't look right, I really preferred the nicer original grille, BMW definitely could've maintained the current look with just some changes.
Joe, I love this colour combination and the 19" alloys just makes it look perfect, for my eyes, anyway. I find it hard to believe that you're only doing 60 mph in some of those drive by clips, but we'll just keep quiet about it. LOL! Personally, I love the looks of this new 4 series Coupe, front end, included!
I like the logo, but the car isn’t powerful enough, you will drive it for a week and then you would want to change it for either an M440i or the new M4 if you want to stick with 4 series. I am personally waiting for the new 510bhp M3 (bred on the racetrack)
Good point about the engine. Of course, more power is always better but the average driver who uses his/her car for daily commutes on congested roads doesn't really need it or maybe doesn't even want it. Yet they get a car that looks sporty and with decent enough performance to provide a little bit of excitement.
I’ve got this exact car arriving next week. Part of me wished I had the 440i. But I do a lot of driving for work, so this video really has reassured me I made the right decision and I’ll enjoy this car! As I do a lot of long haul driving so I think overall it’s going to be a much more comfortable experience.
After buying one, I get the hate, but its unwarranted if your a BMW lover, once you take it out for even a test drive, I was sold asap, quick, comfy, not too much for a daily driver, I would have to say its the best DAILY driver I have driven in a loooong time, that engine alone is worth it, burn many cars stock off the line, in fact, I beat the shit outta a Corvette, which I thought they were quicker AND a NEW Supra, that was embarrassing for them despite being the same engine, BMW apparently understands quite well what they are doing. Great video, great car, love the FUNCTIONAL grille, the handling, the profile, the sound, the tech, I mean, I have to say its a 9/10 BMW if not a 10 for all around. I get the M4 is a "better" drive on a track, but I dont take the track to my shop, I take this guy, and its just perfect. I cant recommend them any higher, I do understand they are not as aggressive looking, which is nice in a way, you get to burn out others that have NO idea what you got under the hood.
I bought a 2022 one month ago I love everything about this car, last three years I had Porsche cayman and Audi tt the same year as this bmw 420i m sport but this one is really a better car but the tax on this car is very high (just over £600).
For the piano black parts inside the car the company XPEL now have pre-cuts to apply on these areas which will help to avoid the scratches and fingerprints, also easier to have clean. :)
I wasn't going to watch this article as I assumed they would have "given" you a fully specified M Sport 440i which starting from £52300 is way beyond what an aspiring BMW 4 series owner could afford. I was very disappointed with the way you denigrated the earlier 4 series 430i as if finding the extra finance to stretch to a 6 cylinder model was a mere trifle. Now you will be long term reviewing what most people can aspire to his will be a great series of articles.
I'm envious alright... not so much of the BMW but your red runners just have to be careful your not clicking your heels together ...Dorothy eat your heart out .
Joe - I know there are a lot of people that want a brand new car, but buying 12months old means the biggest part of depreciation get swallowed by the dealers - All manufacturers are charging more because they are hiding the price hikes behind how much a month vs the actual price of the cars. The Dealers then want buyers to take finance too - they get commission from the finance houses. BMW defo a premium brand and better quality than VW, but your opening comment also makes me choke at how much VW are charging for a Golf ! Nice smooth motor you've got hold of though ;)
I have the G20 320i and I love it. Whilst a know the M340i is perfection. I think for every day usage the 20i more than suits the car. Good fuel economy too, 400-450 miles out of a tank is what I’ve been getting
Just so you know, the scratches in the piano black polish out easily with a bit of Meguires 205. I’ve got Paino black in my F30 Touring and it’s four years old now, but looks like new this way...
Hi Joe liking the logo not sure about the car bmw has a habit of putting the choice goodies that you want in with the stuff you don't really need or use .
As the 6 cylinder cars only come with x drive and based on your observations of the handling, it’s seems as though a 430i with the m sport diff would be the sharpest driving car excluding the M4... interesting. Top video as always Joe.
I would really like to see an in-depth video of the infotainmaint and digital cockpit functions and deep menus, as well as backseat test for few hundred miles , as many people will be thorn between 4 and 3 series. Keep up the good work mate! 🙏🏻
I race the M4 GTR on Iracing and in race livery with the carbon and big wing it looks amazing, even the grill looks great when it's a race car, starting to grow on me in reality too
Very good video Joe, one lesson that i have learn with the cars i have had, power is not everything. The weight, the fact that is not all wheel drive, the chassis and handling. And sometimes people like us cars fanatics :) we want always more power.
_Legal fun._ The new benchmark for manufacturers. Can the vehicle be pushed and kept on its limit without either killing you or getting you arrested. Like the MX-5/Miata, a vehicle with bags of _legal fun_ can be driven at its red-line without the aforementioned pitfalls of prosecution and/or death. Because, I think manufacturers are at the legal limit (safety, emissions etc.) with regards power, torque and top speed. I think manufacturers will have to look elsewhere, for another metric, to entice the buyer. _Legal fun,_ is where it's at!
I drive an pld model (2018)430D MSport and bought it for the looks over a 3. Front end of this car is diabolical! Lovely interior i am sure, but think my next will be a 3 series M340d touring, which looks better from all angles. Thanks for the review Joe, I just can't agree with the comments on front end looks, but each to their own. PS, old school and won't be going for the driver asiistance stuff
Got a 2016 3 series with the same oyster leather, so far holding up well. I use basic leather wipes to clean the seats every month or two and there isn't any staining yet although the driver's side bolster is starting to wear. Never used any leather protect or similar although it's possible the original owner did. It is possible to put visible marks on the seats more easily than you'd ever notice with another color but no problems as long as they are wiped clean and not left for weeks.
Love the look of this 4 series, don’t think I could part with 40k for one though. Would rather buy an f80 m3 😬 another great video 👍 keep up the amazing work.
Thanks for watching as always guys ♥️ What would you buy for £40k brand new? Do you like my new logo?
Love the logo 👍🏻
Logo looks great fella! For 40k with some change I’d go with a new gen FK8 Honda Civic Type R but I’m biased haha 😆
Haha yeah definitely more bang for your bucks 👌
Cheers Christian 🙏
Rather spend 40k on a 1 year old m2 comp
I'm very jealous. I know I'm in the minority but I love the silhouette/aesthetics of the 4 since I first saw it. 👌
me too broo u aren’t alone
Me too. Would love to buy one.🤞
Me tooooo 😩
Crazy prices at the moment, I test drove a 420i last week, £45000, I currently have a 2017 420i with around £10000 to pay off, but given the car is worth around £17500 private I won't be buying, 4 years ago I bought my 420i for £24000, 9 months old 3500 miles, lots of options were on it. Current prices are just way too high, they tried to tell me it is a shortage but I get the feeling dealers are just hiking prices to make up for covid.
Gotta say that grill has grown on me now...good looking coupe 👌🏻
Good to hear 👊
Same! I’d love one
i think it depends on the color of the car how much I'd hate that grille
Nice to see your channel growing.....You deserve all the success. I watch from Palm Springs, California. Cheers.
Thank you Patrick! Wish I was in Palm springs 😉👌♥️
Personally i love the look of the new front end. BMW have made a huge talking point out of it and i think its brilliant
I listened to Joe's argument and felt it didn't substantiate the price. 40k for a 2 litre ENTRY LEVEL 4 series that does 0-60 in 7+ seconds (184 bhp lol!) is simply absurd, and this will be proven in the resale value.
I believe this ballooning in value of cars is all due to people purchasing through finance and leasing. Higher pricing allows for larger monthly repayment prior to lease ending. I can't imagine why this car should cost more than 25-30k.
It may look like a sexy coupe (to some), but the performance tells a completely different story.
And as for the price of the M... I think I will stop my rant now...
Exactly, it wasn't that long ago when I purchased a 320i for sub 30k. It's the fact that everyone buys on finance that's causing these crazy inflated prices. You used to be able to get a new e92 M3 in 2011 for around £50k, the new M3 about to be released will be in the region of £75k!! A 50% price hike. I don't know about you but my wage hasn't increased by 50% in ten years.
@@Chris-hy6jy couldn't agree with you more mate! If you're buying to own, go second hand 2.5 - 3 years old I say!
‘You either love it or hate it. I really like it’
I really hate it
@@marieaudreyduchamp8839 I was quoting big Joe. I think it’ll grow on me. The new 1 series has started to.
I had regular use of a 318i in the early 2000s and remember it as a lovely car. Not fast in a straight line but the handling was better than many sports cars I've driven. Fantastic balance.
Saw one of these at my office car park...still not a fan of how it looks. But, thanks for sharing your thoughts about how it drives as well as the steering.
Theres a Company called Avembra, you can look them up on Instagram, they are making a replacement front and it honestly makes it look amazing.
40,000 pounds is cheap compared to Australian prices. We are hit with luxury car tax on top of GST which will be far more drive away price than the UK drive away price will be. Our 911 s drive away price is roughly $350,000 which is roughly 175,000 pounds, that’s why I have an M2 comp lol.
New BM looks really great mate.
Thank you! I appreciate the information and your format is very good. I like the 4 series, close to pulling the trigger on 1 of these.
I like the exterior and interior looks but cor blimey love that paint!
I really can't understand why I would swap my e92 335i (N54) which costs me zero per month to own for a 40-50k bill for a base model. I have rwd, 340 bhp and 500nm with a 0-60 of around 4.5 seconds that would just leave this standing and Im sure is more fun to drive. I have memory seats which are largely the same, cruise control and all that good stuff, and an older but still similar looking interior. As nice as a new car would be, I can't justify putting another new car on the road and getting rid of mine at these prices. The cost of some of these new motors is just too much IMO, and I even prefer the looks of the e92. Id have to get an M440i to put my old car in its place (and performance wouldnt be all that much different Im sure) and they can be getting on for 60k now, bonkers.
My Dad loves his new 320i, thinks it's brilliant!
Nice review! I like the adequate power , it’s enough to enjoy the car without breaking the speed law and rear wheel drive gives you a sense of enjoyment.
Thanks buddy, totally agree!
I recently traded in my Volvo V40 for a 420dx GT and very happy with it. PROS: Solid car and great brakes. Enough power in sport mode to push you back into the seat. In eco mode gas mileage is just over 40 mpg and it's a very comfortable ride (I live and work in a moutainous rural area). I have the brushed aluminum interior and the M sports seats, no regrets. CONS: My wife and teenage daughter complain that the back seat is too upright to be comfortable on long rides. The heater takes about 10 minutes to make a difference on cold mornings compared to the Volvo that did it in 5. I would like to have fog and cornering lights to see the edge of curvy mountain roads at night.
I bought the 430I 2022 coupe.. I love it!
After work feels great coming back home!
Nice, chill,relaxing cruiser… The Grill looks great!
Enjoyed the video, like the car, you almost made me think I should stop always wanting the high end version of a car!
I really like this 👏 BMW are doing themselves proud on their recent interiors, how times have changed in the last few years 😂.
I think you should do a practically video and a super long trip in the car, if yu could then do something with this car like you did with the 7 series
For those who hate the front, theres a Company called Avembra, you can look them up on Instagram, they are making a replacement front that honestly makes it look amazing.
Front styling is great. Like that paint colour as well.
Hey Joe Achilles, would be nice to see how those parkin assistents works in that car.
For the reverse assistant that remembers the last 50 metres, go back and a look at Joe's press trip for the BMW 8 Series. He featured that system and neck breaking launch control with Stef ABtv
Those parkin assistents are handy things I hear
I have it on my 3 series and it does work well. Always a bit nervous as it does everything. On my previous Audi you did the gear changes and accelerator / brake. It does it well though although i tend to use it occasionally to parallel park if I’m being a bit lazy.
I think the front end looks like the pigs out of Angry Birds, just doesn't float my boat, preferred the older style which I thought was more classy!
On real is better feeling for eye, and many people said that this car is better live
@@alentusek4808 Nah, I saw the new 4 series at my dealership, it was even worse in person.
Theres a Company called Avembra, you can look them up on Instagram, they are making a replacement front honestly makes it look amazing.
The car looks gorgeous in this blue colour, and the kidney grille is not as bad as I previously thought.
Agree 👍
It’s because it doesn’t have a number plate in the press shots
the grille is horrible only on M-cars IMO. on non M-car is pretty fine
ive seen it in person several times now. Gets worse everytime i look at it
I feel like I need to apologise to Joe. I was the knob that drove past in the CLK 4 times while you were trying to film your intro 😶
😂😂😂😂 Amazing! It's not the most idea place to film, but after moving recently I've struggled to find anywhere... I remember you, silver one with AMG wheels? 👌
@@JoeAchilles1 haha, yeah that was me. Sorry 😂 usually find Harry Metcalfe filming on that road
@@olivergraham8649 Thats weird as I was thinking it looks alot like where Harry drives! Joe lives in the Cotswolds?
@@PixelVogue Yeah the exact same road that Harry uses for all his videos. It’s usually a fairly under-used road to be honest, considering how nice it is to drive, which was why I was surprised to see Joe. Although saying that, this area’s becoming a hub of activity for the automotive world. I regularly see JWW’s GT3 at Bicester heritage, which makes sense as that’s where ‘The Bunker’ is. Though I’ve never actually seen him
@@JoeAchilles1 you’ve moved from Denham? Will miss seeing your M2 Comp around but glad won’t have to make my eyes suffer looking at that 4 series front end 😂
The new design is starting to grow on me🤯🔥
Glad to hear 👌
Just took delivery of my M340i in Spain. It has San Marino Individual Blue Metalic Paint at 6000 euro. Carbon Fiber Factory fitted roof at 3300 euro. Fiona red full dash and seats Merino leather at 4800. Carbon fiber diffuser side skirts and interior carbon mouldings with m performance leather and alcantera steering wheel at 5500 euro. I also specked HARMEN KARDEN AND A WHOLE LOT MORE. 225 FRONT AND 255 back Michelin NON RUN FLAT TYRES. Thank you Joe for your advise. I had run flats on my previous x3 m40i and the difference in comfort is like night and day. Run flats are KING
I also went for many of the mod cons. Total price just shy of 90,000 euro. The non run flas are so comfortable and i have to thank you for that Joe.
I don't know - I saw the new M4 yesterday in Heathrow, and it just didn't look right, I really preferred the nicer original grille, BMW definitely could've maintained the current look with just some changes.
I love gesture control, very handy... Volume can be a bit tricky, bit I'd def pay for it 😜
Joe, I love this colour combination and the 19" alloys just makes it look perfect, for my eyes, anyway. I find it hard to believe that you're only doing 60 mph in some of those drive by clips, but we'll just keep quiet about it. LOL! Personally, I love the looks of this new 4 series Coupe, front end, included!
loving the new logo Joe👊...super vid mate👌
Thanks buddy appreciate the support man, hope you're well! 👊
I love it Joe, it's nice to see road tests on standard cars for a change!
Cover everything mate!! The car looks brilliant. Take it for one of those long trips.
Finally someone who doesn’t go for the low hanging fruit. And honestly... that grill is good looking
Such an amazing car, rented it off Sixt for a week trip in the dolomites, curvy Italian roads, was perfect driving experience.
The wind noise at 70mph in my M440i for me is bothersome. Otherwise I’m loving it. You’re right, it just wants to go!
Great review Joe. You’re always very objective and honest. Keep up the good work.
The Harman Kardan is part of the tech pack. Not the M sports pro edition - that's just visual aspects only.
Cant wait to get rid of my c class coupe after nothing but problems from new and get back to a Beamer and this looks the business 😃
Congratulations man
Thank you 👊
I like the logo, but the car isn’t powerful enough, you will drive it for a week and then you would want to change it for either an M440i or the new M4 if you want to stick with 4 series. I am personally waiting for the new 510bhp M3 (bred on the racetrack)
Good point about the engine. Of course, more power is always better but the average driver who uses his/her car for daily commutes on congested roads doesn't really need it or maybe doesn't even want it. Yet they get a car that looks sporty and with decent enough performance to provide a little bit of excitement.
You're lucky to have this for 3 months Joe! BMW (like all of us) obviously love your content, and love of BMW! Well done!
Thank you buddy, yeah BMW UK are great and see the benefit for both sides. Hope you're well mate 👌
@@JoeAchilles1 Most definitely. All good down under. Thanks for sharing your amazing videos as always. Stay safe.
I’ve got this exact car arriving next week. Part of me wished I had the 440i. But I do a lot of driving for work, so this video really has reassured me I made the right decision and I’ll enjoy this car! As I do a lot of long haul driving so I think overall it’s going to be a much more comfortable experience.
As always with BMW styling, it's beginning to grow on me.
After buying one, I get the hate, but its unwarranted if your a BMW lover, once you take it out for even a test drive, I was sold asap, quick, comfy, not too much for a daily driver, I would have to say its the best DAILY driver I have driven in a loooong time, that engine alone is worth it, burn many cars stock off the line, in fact, I beat the shit outta a Corvette, which I thought they were quicker AND a NEW Supra, that was embarrassing for them despite being the same engine, BMW apparently understands quite well what they are doing.
Great video, great car, love the FUNCTIONAL grille, the handling, the profile, the sound, the tech, I mean, I have to say its a 9/10 BMW if not a 10 for all around. I get the M4 is a "better" drive on a track, but I dont take the track to my shop, I take this guy, and its just perfect. I cant recommend them any higher, I do understand they are not as aggressive looking, which is nice in a way, you get to burn out others that have NO idea what you got under the hood.
Really liking the look of the 4 series now especially the m440i, proper sports car like a baby 911
Your garage is stacked! I'm eagerly waiting for your collection video of the M3C, hopefully not too long off now haha
I can’t believe it look gorgeous with its body lines and how light moves!! 😍😍
The only car I've ever seen that actually makes me laugh.
BMW always makes a sexy coupe! Love this car
I can't say I like the grille anymore than when it first appeared,I still am not keen. But I will confess I find it slightly less offensive here!
Theres a Company called Avembra, you can look them up on Instagram, they are making a replacement front and honestly it makes it look amazing.
@@Leo-cc4ip ooh will do. Thank you.
Got my g21 m340i remapped stage one. Seriously insane shove from it now. What an engine.
U can get interior ceramics that can protect piano black. Also a bit of polish applied liberally will get light scratches out. 🧑🚀👍
Lovely spec - enjoy 😉 they look much better on road than in pictures yet I’d go for 220i in 2 door form if had to shop a BMW :)
I bought a 2022 one month ago I love everything about this car, last three years I had Porsche cayman and Audi tt the same year as this bmw 420i m sport but this one is really a better car but the tax on this car is very high (just over £600).
You see once these 3 & 4 series get the M Sport treatment then grille just looks perfect ! Didn’t get it at first but now it just looks a beast
I had the same car just black leather from bmw Hailsham when my m135i went in for service work’ loved the car
Genesis G70 for me. Astonishing vehicle and will be in the UK shortly. And seriously quick with no plastic to be seen!
Interesting, keen to try one!
Nice car to have nevermind that price tag
Hi Joe, as a cyclist like yourself, could you show if its possible to fit a bicycle into the boot.
For the piano black parts inside the car the company XPEL now have pre-cuts to apply on these areas which will help to avoid the scratches and fingerprints, also easier to have clean. :)
I wasn't going to watch this article as I assumed they would have "given" you a fully specified M Sport 440i which starting from £52300 is way beyond what an aspiring BMW 4 series owner could afford. I was very disappointed with the way you denigrated the earlier 4 series 430i as if finding the extra finance to stretch to a 6 cylinder model was a mere trifle. Now you will be long term reviewing what most people can aspire to his will be a great series of articles.
Please tell us who has a replacement front bumper and grill to remove that hideous front end .
_Prior Design_ is currently developing a new nose for the G82.
Think evolve is working on one
Foose design is making a new bumper-grille, suspect it will be US only?
I'm envious alright... not so much of the BMW but your red runners just have to be careful your not clicking your heels together ...Dorothy eat your heart out .
Hi Joe I still prefer the 4 door, how long before the M3 lands
Great run through, but finding one if these for 3k down and £450pcm isn't going to happen.
Just placed an order on a 430d 🤟🏻
My piano black trim on my 2007 BMW 5 series is unmarked at 144k miles. The BMW interiors use to be so much better.
Joe - I know there are a lot of people that want a brand new car, but buying 12months old means the biggest part of depreciation get swallowed by the dealers - All manufacturers are charging more because they are hiding the price hikes behind how much a month vs the actual price of the cars. The Dealers then want buyers to take finance too - they get commission from the finance houses. BMW defo a premium brand and better quality than VW, but your opening comment also makes me choke at how much VW are charging for a Golf ! Nice smooth motor you've got hold of though ;)
The 4 series design is strange, it’s fuckugly in pictures but gorgeous in real life
I don’t love it but arguably the front end is nicer than the new M3/4 😬😬
i think 420i is a bit too underpowered, for me at least 430i hits the sweet spot for a 4cyl, if u dont get the M440i.
I have the G20 320i and I love it. Whilst a know the M340i is perfection. I think for every day usage the 20i more than suits the car. Good fuel economy too, 400-450 miles out of a tank is what I’ve been getting
Just so you know, the scratches in the piano black polish out easily with a bit of Meguires 205. I’ve got Paino black in my F30 Touring and it’s four years old now, but looks like new this way...
Hi Joe liking the logo not sure about the car bmw has a habit of putting the choice goodies that you want in with the stuff you don't really need or use .
Haha thanks man, the logo is most important to me 🤣
- Please Do Some POV Drives On Different Kind Of Roads Showing It's Daily Performance And Capability That We'll Actually Experience Please, God Bless
As the 6 cylinder cars only come with x drive and based on your observations of the handling, it’s seems as though a 430i with the m sport diff would be the sharpest driving car excluding the M4... interesting. Top video as always Joe.
i know its a press car and no one would spec a 420i like this but it is funny seeing a car this highly priced with 184 hp
I would really like to see an in-depth video of the infotainmaint and digital cockpit functions and deep menus, as well as backseat test for few hundred miles , as many people will be thorn between 4 and 3 series. Keep up the good work mate! 🙏🏻
That corner down by Charlbury is a right hoot!
Keep track of ecomony once you do a long distance journey! Test how well it works as a grand tourer
I hate the new 4 series front grill. But I still enjoy watching your videos
Love that colour. I think one of these with the power outputs of the M135i would be interesting.
I race the M4 GTR on Iracing and in race livery with the carbon and big wing it looks amazing, even the grill looks great when it's a race car, starting to grow on me in reality too
Very good video Joe, one lesson that i have learn with the cars i have had, power is not everything. The weight, the fact that is not all wheel drive, the chassis and handling. And sometimes people like us cars fanatics :) we want always more power.
_Legal fun._ The new benchmark for manufacturers. Can the vehicle be pushed and kept on its limit without either killing you or getting you arrested. Like the MX-5/Miata, a vehicle with bags of _legal fun_ can be driven at its red-line without the aforementioned pitfalls of prosecution and/or death.
Because, I think manufacturers are at the legal limit (safety, emissions etc.) with regards power, torque and top speed. I think manufacturers will have to look elsewhere, for another metric, to entice the buyer. _Legal fun,_ is where it's at!
I think you have hit the nail on the head.
I drive an pld model (2018)430D MSport and bought it for the looks over a 3. Front end of this car is diabolical! Lovely interior i am sure, but think my next will be a 3 series M340d touring, which looks better from all angles. Thanks for the review Joe, I just can't agree with the comments on front end looks, but each to their own. PS, old school and won't be going for the driver asiistance stuff
I love the look of this car, and also the colour combination. Does it have Apple CarPlay? The new logo looks great Joe.
I want to know how long it will take to stain the seats. And how easy/difficult it is to clean them.
Got a 2016 3 series with the same oyster leather, so far holding up well. I use basic leather wipes to clean the seats every month or two and there isn't any staining yet although the driver's side bolster is starting to wear. Never used any leather protect or similar although it's possible the original owner did. It is possible to put visible marks on the seats more easily than you'd ever notice with another color but no problems as long as they are wiped clean and not left for weeks.
Great car Joe enjoyed your video like the colour and the leather nice combination worth the extra looking forward to your next video mate
Finally somebody who is honest instead of jumping on the bandwagon.
5:23 you can get these boxes that block the signal from your key so people can't steal your keyless car
Wow! Joe - I really wish I had your job. Thats one of my favorite machines!
You can put PPF on piano black and sort out everything
Love the look of this 4 series, don’t think I could part with 40k for one though. Would rather buy an f80 m3 😬 another great video 👍 keep up the amazing work.
Good to see a base engines instead of all these 3.0 or m cars all the time! Great content 👍
I would not spec a base model that high. Rather go with a higher end model.
Nice long termer that Joe ❤️🙌 interior is spot on like you say can complain! Nice vid fella ✅😎