Baldur's Gate 3 Guide: Early Companion Tips Everyone Should Know

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  • Baldur's Gate 3 Guide: Early Companion Tips Everyone Should Know
    In this Baldur's Gate 3 video, We're going to be talking about early game parties, and what they look like depending on the companions that you bring in and show you guys some real examples of how you would put a party together, depending on what characters you bring, what they might look like, as well as some other recommendations about how to handle those companions.
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    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Baldur's Gate 3 Classes Discussion
    0:45 - 5 Class Roles
    1:00 - Baldur's Gate 3 Companions explained
    2:04 - Respec companions for optimization
    2:53 - Optimal Ability Scores for Companions
    3:11 - Ability Scores and Modifiers
    4:43 - Astarion
    5:46 - Shadowheart
    6:14 - Lae'zel
    6:52 - Gale
    7:34 - Wyll
    7:49 - Karlach
    8:20 - Companion Tips
    10:44 - Party Composition Examples
    11:35 - Full List of Possible Party Composition
    11:47 - Final Thoughts
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  • @Fextralife
    @Fextralife  Před 10 měsíci +31

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    • @christophemortier5878
      @christophemortier5878 Před 10 měsíci

      Can we have the inverse, which team to use for each class

    • @mookacoffee5052
      @mookacoffee5052 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Should I play baldur's gate 2 so I can dive and feel immersive in this game ?

    • @jiaan100
      @jiaan100 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Disagree on Eldritch knight not being good early. Without int you need to be on something like shield, magic missile, find familiar, but those are all amazing spells

    • @bradveach2333
      @bradveach2333 Před 10 měsíci

      So very close

    • @JB-xl2jc
      @JB-xl2jc Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@jiaan100 This is true and also a minor gear spoiler, there exists a circlet (headgear) that is accessible extremely early that sets your INT to +4 modifier even if you had -1 mod before, so you can chuck that on Lae'zel after setting her INT to 8 in respec and get a LOT of ASI to spread around.
      Oh and completely unrelated and fairly minor, it's important to note that Evocation wizard AoE not hurting allies is only true for evocation spells. This is important mostly because a lot of decently heavy hitting AoEs for the first half of the game are Conjuration, and thus don't benefit from the Evocation wizard sculpt feature. This is still a really good feature though, either that or Divination are top tier picks for Wizard IMO.
      (Although, currently they have it set so that ANYONE with even 1 level in Wizard can scribe scrolls as long as they have the spell slot.... which means that something like 11 Sorc 1 Wiz would let your Sorcerer scribe EVERY scroll they come across because they do have at least one level in Wiz and they have spell slots all the way up to level 6. If this stays the way it is, there's almost no reason to go past Wizard 2, and a very good argument for many main casters to only take 1 level of Wizard and then immediately multiclass into another full caster and get almost all of the benefits of that full caster AND the ability to learn their spells! Although there are some minor problems with that such as the fact that they're probably cast through Int which you wouldn't be pushing up if you're a Sorc, etc. Also they may and probably will change that in a patch because it neuters the reasoning for playing high level wizard almost completely).

  • @Tharagar
    @Tharagar Před 10 měsíci +47

    In case noone has tried it yet, you can pickpocket Withers and get your respec money back

  • @jr_cinnamons
    @jr_cinnamons Před 10 měsíci +144

    I love how ever since Elden Ring, you guys have become my new GameFaqs with RPGs lol. I tend to play my own way. But it's nice that when I feel like I'm missing something or stuck, you guys got it covered

    • @WhirlwindHeatAndFlash
      @WhirlwindHeatAndFlash Před 10 měsíci +3

      If you're missing something in life you could always try cocaine.

    • @TheEvdiggity
      @TheEvdiggity Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash very bad advice. Coke these days is sometimes laced with things you definitely want to avoid.

    • @whitevii1533
      @whitevii1533 Před 10 měsíci +1

      They're missing a lot from BG3 and a lot of their pages are incredibly misleading and missing crucial information

    • @WhirlwindHeatAndFlash
      @WhirlwindHeatAndFlash Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@TheEvdiggity so youre saying cocaine by itself would be fine? LMAO

    • @farrel_ra
      @farrel_ra Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@WhirlwindHeatAndFlashlol

  • @nathanbarnhart7823
    @nathanbarnhart7823 Před 10 měsíci +10

    2:28 wow! What a pretty halfling! The character models look amazing

  • @SusannaSaunders
    @SusannaSaunders Před 10 měsíci +51

    As a complete beginner to the world of D&D this left more questions but thank you for such an excellent starter guide. PLEASE do more of this content for absolute beginners. BG3 will pull in new players to the world of D&D so I hope you will support us as we find our feet here!

    • @tassiad.9137
      @tassiad.9137 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Same! I have to clue.

    • @SusannaSaunders
      @SusannaSaunders Před 8 měsíci

      @@tassiad.9137 I gave up with BG3 after I discovered that unless you 'know' in-game content you can't find it. There are whole story arcs that unless you happen to know where to find them you can't progress. For example, a letter in the bog exposes the Grove leader as a plant by a rival faction and enables you to depose her. The hiding place shows no visual clues whatsoever! It's only findable by knowing where to look and literally 'mousing over' the hiding place. Many of the games story arc components are hidden this way so unless you watch dozens of videos to find these out where these are located you are very unlikely to find them yourself unless you literally mouse over the entire screen in every location you go (walls, floor, ceiling and everything in every landscape - everything!). A game should be playable without having to watch videos to find out content within the game. This is a Deal Breaker for me personally. I said all of this in my Steam Review (where I down voted this game). I won't waste my time on a game that deliberately obfuscates the story arc just to extend the games playing time.
      I'm playing Starfield now and enjoying it!

  • @Diceux
    @Diceux Před 10 měsíci +234

    Shadowheart as Trickery Domain can fill in as your party Rogue. Her Urchin background gives her proficiency at Slight of Hand. Trickery Domain also makes her harder to kill. In a companion tier list she is probably S tier.

    • @geoffreysherman609
      @geoffreysherman609 Před 10 měsíci +35

      Particularly if Trickery still gets Polymorph at 7th. Honestly, Trickery is so slept on.

    • @Omega_Contagion
      @Omega_Contagion Před 10 měsíci +9

      Agreed.

    • @kalle3940
      @kalle3940 Před 10 měsíci +17

      It's too bad that Invoke Duplicity is so nerfed in bg3 compared to 5e. It's supposed to be a copy of the caster that can move around and have spells originate from it plus you can cast it away from you. So you are a bit from the enemies: you cast invoke duplicity near your allies to cast cure wounds when needed or near enemies to cast inflict wounds.

    • @smurphsFTW
      @smurphsFTW Před 10 měsíci +2

      Tbh ill prolly respec here to be a light cleric, both for the meme and so she can better fill the role of ranged damage dealer. She will still have the sleight of hand prof anyways so its all good.

    • @YogKaim
      @YogKaim Před 10 měsíci +1

      Shadow is the strongest tank in my games. She can’t be put to sleep. Wearing Minthara’s boots, she can’t be pushed or knocked prone. She has all kinds of buffs. She can pull up two downed party members in one round. Give her hand crossbows for an extra offhand attack. Easily the strongest tank companion in EA. I agree, S-Tier.

  • @celuiquipeut6527
    @celuiquipeut6527 Před 10 měsíci +28

    The hype is REAL!
    Thanks Fextralife for being always on point and in top.
    You guys have grown so much! And the most impressive is that the quality, NEVER went down.
    It actually had gone UP.
    Really the best at what you do.
    Thank you!

    • @mada505
      @mada505 Před 10 měsíci

      you want a spoon?

  • @MattyPGood
    @MattyPGood Před 10 měsíci +284

    A note on (and defense of) having one odd ability score: if you make your primary stat 17 at character creation, you can take a half feat (like athlete) at level 4 to bump that to 18. This is the most impactful way to use your level 4 stat increase because you get the initial +1 to your rolls with that stat AND the other benefit of the feat. This is more of a power increase than just taking the standard ASI to increase your main stat.

    • @lionfan96
      @lionfan96 Před 10 měsíci +19

      at the beginning of the game, i actually prefer odd ability scores because you can increase your ability scores every 4th level.. so having an odd ability score, especially early isnt necessarily bad.. in fact in character creation.. i always tend to pick two ability scores that i want at an odd number.. usually one at 19.. so that way i know my 4th and 8th level ability score increase wont be waisted.

    • @Deeplight32
      @Deeplight32 Před 10 měsíci +75

      This is good advice if we didn’t have respec like normal 5e.
      Since we have easy and cheap respec, it’s probably best to just get those even scores until level 4.

    • @WhirlwindHeatAndFlash
      @WhirlwindHeatAndFlash Před 10 měsíci +7

      not many (good) half feats in the game tbh
      theres athlete and then theres the charisma one that gives performance proficiency or sth and thats about it iirc

    • @Jasta85
      @Jasta85 Před 10 měsíci +7

      There's also items you can get in game which can give +1 to an ability score, so you don't even need to use a feat to get to 18 if you can find them.

    • @Lutasiren
      @Lutasiren Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@Jasta85 then u dont pick the stupid feat and get ur stat to 20 smart guy. which means u still need 17

  • @BurlBullock
    @BurlBullock Před 10 měsíci +7

    Great video, I know this would help a lot of people out who want to optimize their party. Thanks always for the content!

  • @blizzrd6578
    @blizzrd6578 Před 10 měsíci +193

    Personally, I think the best way to optimize is to just look at support, utility, weapon dps, and then magic dps. That way there are only 4 roles to fill which is exactly how many characters you can bring. I think you should ignore the dialogue role as this should be for your main character regardless on class. If you have lower charisma then thats fine. Possibly failing dialogue checks is part of the fun imo and adds to the RP. I dont like the idea of being shoehorned into one of like 3 or 4 classes or have non main character companions do dialogue.

    • @kingelessar4632
      @kingelessar4632 Před 10 měsíci +13

      This, and non-combat roles can actually be covered by anyone if you give them some secondary stats and skills. My first playthrough I'll be a Selune cleric with good CHA and I'll use Shadowheart for lockpicking since she has the skill from the background. Even though double cleric is not optimized, it will be interesting to see how the story develops considering the opposite views of the two

    • @everydayman88
      @everydayman88 Před 10 měsíci +14

      Yeah cuz the list he showed was mostly chasing a bard… who tf wants to be a bard…

    • @philipfahy9658
      @philipfahy9658 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@kingelessar4632 Full cleric party can be pretty darn optimal even. Just gotta balance the spells and subclasses they take so they aren't all doing the same thing.

    • @TheWoWisok
      @TheWoWisok Před 10 měsíci +1

      I just save scum rolls with quick saves.
      I am trying to persuade someone but it is a wisdom check for some reason. I swear most of my conversation checks have had nothing to do with charisma so far.

    • @farrel_ra
      @farrel_ra Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@TheWoWisoksad for u

  • @ForsmanTomas
    @ForsmanTomas Před 10 měsíci +3

    I'm very happy to have finally found someone who actually gives thoughtful advice. I'm glad you agree on my setup with Lae'zel, Gale, Shadowheart and me running as Bard.

  • @knumbchuck2706
    @knumbchuck2706 Před 10 měsíci +8

    Thank you so much for this. Am new to D&D and simply cannot wait to get stuck in to Baldur’s Gate III. I need all the help I can get and love all your content. So incredibly helpful 😊

    • @wuwei473
      @wuwei473 Před 10 měsíci

      Did you get stuck?

  • @nikolaipopov7013
    @nikolaipopov7013 Před 10 měsíci +90

    You're a lifesaver. Thank you for setting up some much needed guides throughout the years!

    • @kyuzo26
      @kyuzo26 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Nah you mean he spoon-fed you. Cos gamers these days can’t figure it out themselves

    • @Awakesdo
      @Awakesdo Před 10 měsíci +5

      ​@@kyuzo26it takes your time to try many variants, everyone choose for himself to follow guides or not

    • @kyuzo26
      @kyuzo26 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Awakesdo really ??? I never knew that I thought we all had a musket against my head. haha mental

  • @mckinleygamble
    @mckinleygamble Před 10 měsíci +401

    The face of my party has 8 charisma. I like failing checks on purpose. It's more fun than passing most of the time

    • @szemenyeitamas1471
      @szemenyeitamas1471 Před 10 měsíci +94

      Agree! My main will be a wizard, if it pass the dialog, good, if not... fireball!

    • @MrEvilside
      @MrEvilside Před 10 měsíci +15

      best thing then your face have 17charisma, but npc stars conversation some one else in your party (mostly closest one).
      ...
      spoiler.
      .
      .
      .
      Frakin aunt ellie fight and that one ability point going to Laezel

    • @mckinleygamble
      @mckinleygamble Před 10 měsíci +3

      @szemenyeitamas1471 yeah, it's pretty fun

    • @dominika3762
      @dominika3762 Před 10 měsíci +8

      Nah, if I don't pass checks, I'll have to fight more often.

    • @mckinleygamble
      @mckinleygamble Před 10 měsíci +9

      @@dominika3762 that's the fun part

  • @antoniotruong5647
    @antoniotruong5647 Před 10 měsíci +4

    This is exactly what I needed. I wanted to play as a ranger and was going to research the optimal party members to bring along. Thank you CZcams.

  • @funstuffonthenet
    @funstuffonthenet Před 10 měsíci +2

    thank you so much. you're the man at all these helpful tips and videos for new and veteran players. this one was particularly helpful since i'm in constant debate of who i'm gonna be and who's comin with me! lookin forward to no-lifing this game come Thursday along with the other awesome videos you'll be making

  • @TheMike424
    @TheMike424 Před 10 měsíci +1

    These last 2 weeks, I've never been more excited for the daily Fextralife video. It's literally helping me get thru these last few days. It's almost here!

  • @ventrue7
    @ventrue7 Před 10 měsíci +5

    This is prob one of the best optimization guides I've seen so far this will be really useful for a lot of people. Usually there are a lot of misinformation out there but everything is pretty much accurate here. The only thing I can say is paladins ,especially ancients can fill out Cleric's role(specifically shadowheart if people don't wanna take her) and the combat role also prob party face . Clerics are actually more on the offensive caster and healing side than Bards and Druids both have more utility and support spells in general.

    • @gossymer.
      @gossymer. Před 10 měsíci +1

      Since clerics have such amazing high level spells, I would actually switch laezel to Paladin of vengeance if I were to respec a class. Combat specialist, smite, some healing and spells and no longer being the absolute worst at dialogue, yes!

  • @mikewatts1533
    @mikewatts1533 Před 10 měsíci +17

    I'm definitely respecting shadow heart to a different domain. And I'm unsure whether lae'zel will stay a great weapons master or change it to dual wield.
    Thank you for everything you've done up to this point, it has been a great help.
    See you on the fourth because the third is full.

    • @garion046
      @garion046 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Imo GW fighting style is too weak to keep, even if you are actually fighting with a two hander. Better off taking defense.

  • @gossymer.
    @gossymer. Před 10 měsíci

    This was such a good vid for helping folks who can't decide or figure it out since they're paralyzed for choice, awesome work here, especially the Revd at the end for how to choose class based on companions or vice versa!

  • @cameronossing495
    @cameronossing495 Před 10 měsíci

    Can’t believe it’s finally here, one more day! Thank you for all the videos it helped make these last few years feel quicker!

  • @tassey
    @tassey Před 10 měsíci +20

    Thank you so much for targeting these to new players. I really appreciate the effort to organize the vast amount of data. D&D was made for people who like complexity. And that includes me (last played paper D&D almost 40 years ago). But beyond rusty now and have to have patience. Your advice to keep things simple at first is so right. Take a breather and enjoy your first play through.

  • @georgethoughtful
    @georgethoughtful Před 10 měsíci +4

    Love these types of guides. I'm actually stumped here. I'm thinking of creating a party of Rogue with some Charisma (my character) with Laezel, Wyll, and Shadowheart. Loved those characters the most, and definitely see them as my first playthrough.
    I agree with the idea of having Wyll potentially be the face, but definitely want my rogue to be the face. Not that this specific overlap matters (because I cover all 5 roles with these people)... Just really wanna play rogue and love Wyll in the party, although swapping to Gale as an offensive Spellcaster may be the way to go in terms of optimization

  • @benjamincruzj
    @benjamincruzj Před 10 měsíci +1

    Here supposedly working, but actually having breakfast and taking notes of your amazing videos (Yes, I have a physical notebook in which I have been and will take notes through my different gameplays). Awesome work as always, thanks!

  • @mareknovotny3005
    @mareknovotny3005 Před 10 měsíci

    Thank you for all our videos!

  • @aegis555
    @aegis555 Před 10 měsíci +13

    I have used Shadowheart for Stealth and Rogue skills and it works perfectly (at least on the EA). Anyway, it's a very useful guide! The only "problem" I see is if some characters don't fit good with someone (f.e. Shadowheart and Laezel are most of the time arguing, and I don't think they will cooperate well together in a long journey)

    • @jamesbates9038
      @jamesbates9038 Před 10 měsíci

      If you play your cards just right it is possible to romance both of them (maybe eviler playthrough)
      They will still hate each other but I think as long as your approval is decent with them you can keep them in your party. Until one of them leaves later in the game for story reasons. ( I don't know this I just suspect one will betray me)

  • @attackins1470
    @attackins1470 Před 10 měsíci +9

    If you play a Wood Elf/Half-Elf Ranger you can be a combat, dialogue, and utility specialist with some minor support casting. This gives you a lot more flexibility in who you can bring with you in your party.
    Depending on your selections you can walk away with 7 starting skills covering many fields, a great Frontline and Ranged combatant if you go with Dex, some nice buff and utility spells, and if you dump Wis(or set to 10) and get a decent Cha you can also be a face. Just choose spells that don't rely on you having a good Wis and you're fine. Grab that Headband of Intellect asap, and now you're decent on your Int skills as well. Easily my favorite build in the game.

    • @hybridkam
      @hybridkam Před 7 měsíci

      i play half elf ranger, my intelligence when I decipher something is -1 Loll

  • @Whattobecalled
    @Whattobecalled Před 10 měsíci

    Great video. I have a few classes i am going between trying too decide which one and with this video i might go for bard. According too your full list bard paires with lots of the combinations. Thank you dor this video.

  • @gzion7
    @gzion7 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Thanks for this! I'm not very familiar with D&D nor BG3 but your videos have been incredibly helpful.
    Your video guides in Divinity Original Sin 2 were just what I needed and it's how I discovered your channel.

  • @Abracadaniels
    @Abracadaniels Před 10 měsíci +5

    I think you forget that even though you might not use let’s say Karlach in your party having her in camp will greatly change the camp tav and npc dialogues only having three companions might make you miss tons of interesting talks. Also switching between characters for certain fights might be a good strategy.

  • @MeldinX2
    @MeldinX2 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I acually think you don't need to optimize too much. It's fine to have some overlap if you like some companions more than other or want to play a certain class and still bring your favorite companions. Having some utility is probably one thing you do want to bring however. Out of combat you will need to unlock doors and chests and disarm traps ect.

  • @jackinthebox1993
    @jackinthebox1993 Před 10 měsíci

    This is been my favorite channel for game information on the whole baldur's Gate III. I appreciate this channel so much

  • @alejandromarinetti8622
    @alejandromarinetti8622 Před 10 měsíci

    Man I just can't wait. I've been working like crazy these last couple of weeks so I have a free day on friday and I will go all in on BG3

  • @funnyfrogman4599
    @funnyfrogman4599 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Thanks for always putting out the best videos guys!

  • @jarrodbright5231
    @jarrodbright5231 Před 10 měsíci +13

    I do love how many of the "solutions" to party compositions is to play a Bard.
    If you consider a Lore Bard who takes Fireball as one of his spells at level 6, you could have just about any party...

    • @Whattobecalled
      @Whattobecalled Před 10 měsíci

      Lore Bard with FireBall is high up on my list. Sure its no evocation FireBall but still fun. And then It seems i can party vibe optimally with most companions orgin and non origin companions.

    • @ngamashaka4894
      @ngamashaka4894 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Saloing Druid is good also, Talking from the guy who always played Bard since the 3th edition

    • @gossymer.
      @gossymer. Před 10 měsíci +4

      While you could solve these issues with a warlock or druid, it can be more complicated for newbies in figuring out invocations and spells to get that optimization vs bard's expertise which is simple enough. A Warlocks armor of shadows and invisible imp can be clutch in game and druid wildshape and awesome higher level spells can make it rather powerful. However, with 2 Druid companions later and a warlock companion, they're never off the table entirely

    • @pul0y
      @pul0y Před 10 měsíci +1

      My lore bard with a cleric dip will not be taking fireball as addtnl secrets but will be in the front wearing heavy armor and cursing people to their faces while having spiritual guardians grind them to dust.

  • @barknmad2861
    @barknmad2861 Před 10 měsíci

    This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you sir!

  • @tonydeluna8095
    @tonydeluna8095 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I appreciate your videos and your tips content on these classes. This will definitely help me once the game launches on the ps5

  • @j0j0bird
    @j0j0bird Před 10 měsíci +21

    I think it would be genuinly helpful for new people to dnd if you put more emphasis on importance of control in combat. A wizard can spam fireball, but that's only sometimes the optimal play. They're not really (primarily) damage dealers. Also, with Shadowheart around you can get by without a Rogue. You cannot do everything optimally with 4 people. Great work on these guides and I understand you're making them simple on purpose, but letting people know there are options and that to be creative really is part of the point of dnd.

    • @philipfahy9658
      @philipfahy9658 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Yeah I do feel like he is taking a very standard RPG approach to this rather than teaching it from a DnD perspective. It's nice for simplicity but I do worry it may lead some players astray. There's a lot of variety to be had in DnD, and for the most part, any class can fill any of these roles if you know what you're doing.

  • @zimtot
    @zimtot Před 10 měsíci +37

    I think people are missing the fact that Shadowheart with trickery domain can fulfill many of the rogue roles. With stealth and the sleight of hand she has. Different flavor but definitely not bad. Since I don't like Astarion as much, I won't be respecing Shadowheart (won't respec any companions for the first playthrough actually). But to each their own.

    • @ngamashaka4894
      @ngamashaka4894 Před 10 měsíci +5

      I hate Astarion, I always kill as soon as I see him. As you say I use Shadowheart if I'm not playing a Bard or a thief. Shadowheart and Gall are for me the only interesting NPC

    • @johndeighan2495
      @johndeighan2495 Před 10 měsíci

      They’ve rewritten Wyll, and Karlach is new. So, let’s see. I think they’re all interesting.

    • @Mathieu89
      @Mathieu89 Před 10 měsíci +7

      She's not a half-bad tank either once she gains access to Mirror Image at level 3. She's very versatile.

    • @O-D-X
      @O-D-X Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@ngamashaka4894 Somebody finally gets it. I hate the Emo Evil Boy trope they used with Ass-tarion. Although I like Lae'zel more than Gale, and Karlach just looks scrumptious.

    • @miscast8180
      @miscast8180 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@Mathieu89 I´m new to dnd5. Mirror Image is a divine spell o.O? Or she get´s it from trickery domain? That´s low key awesome!

  • @JW-sl3ht
    @JW-sl3ht Před 10 měsíci +1

    love your content man!!! well done as always!!! Cant wait to play

  • @heinrich4208
    @heinrich4208 Před 10 měsíci +41

    You don't always have to start with an even ability score, as an uneven score will let you pick a feat with a +1. A combo I usually enjoy doing is to start with 15 or 13 in constitution, then taking the resilient constitution feat (which will be in the full game), thus raising the ability to an uneven score and granting me proficiency with saving throws. This is really good for concentration saves, and gives you more hp.

    • @Shosara
      @Shosara Před 10 měsíci +13

      their argument is that you can respecc at lvl 4 once you get the asi/feat and then pick the uneven ability score to improve to be even via the feat. I personally dont enjoy cheesing that way as well, but their argument is valid if you do want to ultra minmax. I think it is a bit misplaced in this ultra-beginner focused guide, but yeah, they do have a point if you want to always recpacc at an asi, you can do that to minmax to the greatest extend.

    • @smbakeresq
      @smbakeresq Před 10 měsíci +2

      The odd Con with resilient feat is great for a Paladin.

  • @totalvoid6234
    @totalvoid6234 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Once again Utility isn't a role defined by class. You don't need a skill monkey, especially since you probably would need to take the role yourself. Just split the important skills amongst all party members, needing a skill monkey was a 3rd edition issue.

  • @cmel7841
    @cmel7841 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great videos lately, this is going to be a huge game

  • @JavisoGaming
    @JavisoGaming Před 10 měsíci

    This video is amazing. Well done! Thank you!

  • @Maverick734
    @Maverick734 Před 10 měsíci +9

    I do think Larian missed a trick with party size. 5 would be better as you wouldn't feel so restricted with party comp.

  • @reilley26
    @reilley26 Před 10 měsíci +26

    The benefit of leaving an ability score on an odd number is if you want a feat that gives a +1 to a stat.

    • @Fextralife
      @Fextralife  Před 10 měsíci +35

      Can respec at level 4, so no need to leave it that way for hours of gameplay...

    • @AwesomeWookiee
      @AwesomeWookiee Před 10 měsíci +9

      Respeccing like that ruins my immersion. I would never use it as part of the "game plan".
      That said, odd numbers are obviously trash usually.

    • @Shosara
      @Shosara Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@Fextralife respeccing in wrath of the righteous undid a lot of flags from conversations and such, and i am pretty sure the same was the case ind DoS 1&2, so i would usually try to stick with a character withoutt respeccing. (apart from not wanting to "cheese" the game systems by respeccing atg each ASI, but this falls under "different strokes for different folks") - do you know if this is different in bg3, can you respec "safely" in that respect?

    • @Fextralife
      @Fextralife  Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@Shosara I think they've taken steps to make multiclassing easier, so I would say it's likely not a problem.

    • @TheCookieDoeDeer
      @TheCookieDoeDeer Před 10 měsíci +3

      ​@@Fextralifethat's a very tremendous meta gaming way of thinking for new players. What are you gonna end up doing? Respecing several times 😂

  • @BlueDragonAkira
    @BlueDragonAkira Před 10 měsíci +1

    Love everything that you do. I’m still watching your divinity original sin 2 vids

  • @roddc7696
    @roddc7696 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I've been shadowing your channel for years Fextra (I just subscribed because stupid me thought I'd already subscribed) and greatly enjoy your guides, tips and so on. Between you and Wolfheart I know I'll be in good hands. I have extreme Alt-itis so you'll be a great source for builds (both copying and as inspiration) as always.

  • @Phenie
    @Phenie Před 10 měsíci +44

    While this is all very true I do want to point out that if you are playing on Balanced, you really won't *have* to have a fully optimized team. Just play with the characters you want to play with!

    • @MayHugger
      @MayHugger Před 10 měsíci +1

      Bah, half of the fun is mix and matching classes to work well together.

    • @Phenie
      @Phenie Před 10 měsíci +11

      @@MayHugger To each their own!
      I will be having a load of fun with my suboptimal 16 Charisma Druid together with Shadowheartl

    • @simulation3120
      @simulation3120 Před 10 měsíci

      I swapped companions in and out based on who I wanted to hang out with and did fine. Played as a paladin. Tended to always have Astarion though for lockpicking and stealth.

    • @dodgek5270
      @dodgek5270 Před 10 měsíci

      Where's the fun in that? Play story mode then.

    • @ronmexico7256
      @ronmexico7256 Před 9 měsíci +1

      You can most definitely complete the game on tactician using whatever companions you want, the game is very forgiving.

  • @Tihamatt
    @Tihamatt Před 10 měsíci +13

    If you want laezel and shadowheart in your party, but want to build favor with shadowheart, you can fully kill laezel on the mindflayer ship, and then rez her when you land, she'll join your party without shadowhearts disapproval

    • @gr1mgr1n
      @gr1mgr1n Před 10 měsíci

      is this true? how can any character rez at lvl 1

    • @garion046
      @garion046 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@gr1mgr1n There are fairly abundant scrolls of revivify in the early game.

    • @Tihamatt
      @Tihamatt Před 10 měsíci

      @@gr1mgr1n you start off with 2 rez scrolls and each character you recruit also have them, so you have plenty of revives :)

    • @jacobyrassilon
      @jacobyrassilon Před 10 měsíci

      @@Tihamatt Plus you can buy them from vendors in the Druid's Grove...they are expensive, but if you are super brand new, you might need them, haha.

  • @Kendo790
    @Kendo790 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Doing great work with your vids. Really helped me at the start.

  • @Zittylol
    @Zittylol Před 10 měsíci

    Excellant vid as the information was very useful to help me pick my class.

  • @Samlli
    @Samlli Před 10 měsíci +5

    The only companion I will probably multiclass is Wyll. A Pact of the Blade warlock in BG3 borrows the Hexblade feature from 5e letting you use your Charisma for melee class. I think a Swords Bard can thematically and mechanically pair well. More spell slots, a nice bump to his melee attacks and medium armour proficiency will go a long way. You won't need his bardic inspiration provided you already have another support character in your party, enabling Wyll to hoard them for his attacks.

    • @retnuHDJ
      @retnuHDJ Před 10 měsíci +1

      Only problem is you will miss out on Magical secrets, level 6 spells and the extra ASI by going Warlock 3/Bard 9. It might be worth it though

    • @ImperatorMagus
      @ImperatorMagus Před 10 měsíci +1

      I'm doing this now lock 3 into bard 3 and can confirm it pairs really well. Picked dueling and my blasts slap and my fencing slaps. People saying "your missing out" ya no not really especially If you want a swashbuckling gish
      Also this combo let's you dump wis to 8 and not feel bad with all the Bardic rolls and profiencys you get.

  • @marvinp90
    @marvinp90 Před 10 měsíci +7

    To me it looks like Lazeal, Astorian, Minthara are the three companions least tied narratively to their class so if you feel you need to change a character's class completely these seem like the best options

    • @nicofromtheweb4891
      @nicofromtheweb4891 Před 10 měsíci

      Wait wait wait .. Minthara .. the badass evil person I killed ? She can be a companion ???😮

  • @adomingues00
    @adomingues00 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the coverage m8. I am playing a oathbreaker paladin though, and no matter the dificulty, guides or opinions, i'm still gonna play like it :) probably as second playthrough i'll go more optimized. On my first play i'll just go with whatever i like more (main char and party composition).

  • @KatalistProductionsKozzySasha
    @KatalistProductionsKozzySasha Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great BG3 videos lately Fex, cheers

  • @El_Diego86
    @El_Diego86 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Any Bards in Here?

  • @Chromedbustop
    @Chromedbustop Před 10 měsíci +4

    Really helpful guide. The biggest thing I wished for with this game was that they had a 5 or 6 party size. 4 is fine I guess, but it feels kind of restrictive.

    • @Bzk--
      @Bzk-- Před 10 měsíci

      I see where you're coming from but personally it's refreshing to have a smaller party size; even tho it's restrictive, it's also much less of a hassle to juggle 4 characters instead of 6 and combat is a lot faster. Also, it indirectly makes build choices more impactful as you can't have everything covered like you do in a party of 6. I have 400 hours of played time on Pathfinder WotR and it's one thing I didn't like about that game; once you are like halfway through it, you could have an easy answer to anything the game throws at you if you built your characters properly. I always wished for a reduced party size, not only for that, but also due to the sheer amount of micromanaging required. I couldn't deal with it if it wasn't for a mod that allowed to setup all your buffs and apply them istantly with a single button press. Tho it's also true that in this game they (thankfully) got rid of all the buff stacking shenanigans thanks to the concentration mechanic, but still. In Pathfinder it somewhat worked thanks to real time with pause which I used for pretty much any non-boss encounter.

    • @Chromedbustop
      @Chromedbustop Před 10 měsíci

      @@Bzk-- It depends on what people are looking for. I don't find that there is really that much micromanaging needed with this game, and you can still face roll most encounters with a party of 4 because the game is designed around a party of 4. So it's really no different than if the game had been designed around a party of 5-6. After a short time you're going to win most encounters regardless.
      Even on Tactician mode the game doesn't really require and optimal party group so unless someone is playing like a total clutz, they're going to start winning fights pretty easily at around level 5-6. Build choices aren't really that impactful because all you really need is the same staples that have always been around: A tank, someone to heal if/when needed. Get that and you've won the game as soon as you've got your party slots filled. Even the "hard" encounters are pretty easy. And I am NOT a hardcore gamer or experienced CRPG/Tabletop player.
      I'd like the larger size so I wouldn't have like half the people you can recruit just sitting around camp doing nothing. Why even have that many characters in the game, especially once they introduced the respeccing option.
      The problem with Pathfinder (both WoTR and KM) was that it had a lot of micromanaging because they had sooo much stuff in the game and a lot of it was redundant. They really didn't need as many classes, feats, or abilities as the game had, which would have economized the pacing in a better way. But the party size wasn't the issue.

    • @zig9260
      @zig9260 Před 10 měsíci

      4 is perfect actually.

    • @Chromedbustop
      @Chromedbustop Před 10 měsíci

      @@zig9260 Tried out a mod to increase party size and I found 5 to be much, much better. The downside of course is the encounters are balanced for a group of 4, but a difficulty mod can sort that out. But 5 was better in every way.

    • @zig9260
      @zig9260 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Chromedbustop If you are having trouble with 4, doesnt mean 5 is better.

  • @cherrycookie85
    @cherrycookie85 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Thank you =) very helpful!

  • @davidl4953
    @davidl4953 Před 10 měsíci

    Great vid. Tons of options especially if you factor in the for hires frens from our undead bud in camp. What a great game!

  • @The_Azure_
    @The_Azure_ Před 10 měsíci +4

    Unless you're playing on Tactician difficulty, I doubt you'll need to optimize your party this much. Keep class roles in mind sure, but don't worry if your party is missing two or three roles. Hell you could probably play through most of the game just fine with 4 of the same class.
    Oh, and keep in mind that if you respec an origin character, certain dialogue options and interactions may not appear.

  • @baconation2637
    @baconation2637 Před 10 měsíci +3

    If you follow the advice in this video (which is good advice for new players, dont get me wrong) there is one potentially large problem depending on if you want to play a specific class. That class is Wizard. None of the combinations here allow for the main character to be a Wizard.

  • @demoniovargas1093
    @demoniovargas1093 Před 10 měsíci

    Amazing video ,very helpful.Thanks a lot

  • @orion1204
    @orion1204 Před 10 měsíci

    Started as a Bard and I’m really enjoying the light support, manipulation and dialogue choice options I’ve already had the first few hours of the game.

  • @ransom--
    @ransom-- Před 10 měsíci +4

    Super excited for Baldur's Gate 3. I will say I think free or cheap respec was a bad idea though - I think the cost of it should scale significantly. This video is the ideal example of why.
    "Don't think ahead, just optimize for now."

    • @dominika3762
      @dominika3762 Před 10 měsíci

      But I know I'll probably respec once or twice one character, because I'm too lazy

    • @nature_laughslast6438
      @nature_laughslast6438 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Even if you are experienced this game is new and it’s obvious people will mess up builds. Making respec easy is especially meant for new players as a quality of life feature. You can’t be having new people get punished for build choices made in ignorance hours before. Even with experienced players their are items in game that can completely change your build direction with their abilities. You can’t think ahead for that without spoiling yourself. First time players are going to respect a lot to try things. At the end of the day I’m for anything that gives players options. Now, if you wanna self impose things to make respec harder.. go for it. I understand where you are coming from.. but at the end of the day it’s not a pvp game so nobody is hurt by optimizing as you go. Finally.. even if they implement what you want people will just save scum.. so theirs no way around it.

  • @ladooshka
    @ladooshka Před 10 měsíci

    It is very useful! Thank you!

  • @AfonsoVMSP
    @AfonsoVMSP Před 9 měsíci +1

    Im really glad I'm watching your videos, before playing on PS5 😬
    Great job 🤟🏼

  • @RemigiuszSzczerbak
    @RemigiuszSzczerbak Před 9 měsíci +1

    Amazing, thank you! I'm playing sorcerer as my main character and having trouble with fights in my current configuration. Definitely have to respec party members I guess.

  • @CarlosBassBughi2
    @CarlosBassBughi2 Před 10 měsíci

    Amazing guide, will be following this one and the other, all but the Dialogue character, my first runs will be with charisma characters anyway but after I will do the talk with my main character even if the charisma is low, to be like the main character and let dice decide my future

  • @gregoryshinn9805
    @gregoryshinn9805 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the video

  • @davidepolizzi6260
    @davidepolizzi6260 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Greatgreatgreat video! thanks a lot, very clear :)

  • @TooMuchTuna7
    @TooMuchTuna7 Před 10 měsíci

    Took screenshots😂 thanks man! Great video!

  • @odinulveson9101
    @odinulveson9101 Před 10 měsíci

    Great to hear you wait until after games release to go more in-depth. Also might do a story companion guide after some time? Because I do take in consideration companion dynamics between them. Laezel + Shadowheart, Shadowheart + Gale, Wyll + Kharlack. And Astarion? Might have a lore match of the later 4+ companions

  • @pigro2
    @pigro2 Před 10 měsíci

    This is exactly the video I needed 🙏

  • @MrHighRaw
    @MrHighRaw Před 10 měsíci

    Can't wait for this game, I've been waiting 20 years! I loved BG 1, 2 and Throne of Bhaal. Sooooo hyped!

  • @philipfuster5443
    @philipfuster5443 Před 10 měsíci

    Good guide. Thank you 👍

  • @peterrautenbach1298
    @peterrautenbach1298 Před 10 měsíci

    Hey nice! Glad to see you mention the support caster potential of wizards :)

  • @starbreeze7249
    @starbreeze7249 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I really overlooked Paladin as a striker, though they really enable a main striker and do well as a bit of a secondary one. Especially Ancients Paladin, really tank up your other striker. They're great at keeping Bless up but they also have a ton of concentration spells, so they do add the flexibility to bring a Bard/Cleric and either have them use Bless, or be your Conc spell caster, which is super nice

  • @angelaraya9268
    @angelaraya9268 Před 10 měsíci

    wow nice guide, ty!

  • @kylestuenkel2941
    @kylestuenkel2941 Před 10 měsíci

    Love your videos!

  • @Dahkeus3
    @Dahkeus3 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I've been running a Wildheart Barbarian with Karlach (Berserker Barbarian), Lae'zel (Battlemaster Fighter), and Shadowheart (Trickster Cleric), so I've gone against a lot of advice here, but it's actually worked out pretty well. I handle dialogues with my custom character and utilize intimidation or similar stuff to get through dialogue (or just save scum tough rolls). For utility, I got a Cat's Grace clothing chest early on that allows either my main or Karlach to handle lock picking/disarming since it gives advantage on those rolls, so I don't miss having a rogue or anything like that. It may not seem like an ideal party, but it works better than you'd expect. My characters just always look extra messy during cut scenes since they're all up in enemy's faces getting splattered with gore and there's no water spells to clean them off.
    Trickster Cleric is probably the one spot that feels the weakest as opposed to another cleric spec, but I like sticking with Trickster to keep Shadowheart close to her character's personal preferences for roleplay and all that.

  • @Jackmaaaan
    @Jackmaaaan Před 10 měsíci

    I would love a Video about the API vs Feat decisions to make :D Love your videos so much!

  • @nyarparablepsis872
    @nyarparablepsis872 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I found Fextralife when playing D:OS2. Thanks for your coverage of great games! Looking forward to more of your guides

  • @Steadymobbin711
    @Steadymobbin711 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The only thing that would improve your channel is 4k, literally everything else is perfect. Thank you for the quality content!

  • @Peace_Dog
    @Peace_Dog Před 10 měsíci

    Great video! Although I have leaned heavily on the idea of being the scout/rogue for my party, I came back around to leaning paladin earlier today (this changes by the hour btw) in order to be the face of the party. And in EA my favorite characters to group with have been Gale, Astarion and Shadowheart. So according to your chart, my search is finally over! Thank you!
    edit: So today I've changed my mind again. Swapping Karlach for Astarion and I'm rolling a Drow Gloom Stalker/Assassin (so original, lol) with 10 proficiencies and expertise in Perception/Stealth and a little CHA to serve as scout and face of the party. I'm loving the pally but stealth is my first love. I know your chart says Bard for this comp, but I'm dipping Gale into a couple levels of Fighter and Karlach into druid for a few lvls also, so we'll see how that goes. Again, your videos are are very helpful in this process. Thank You!

  • @florentcouturier7465
    @florentcouturier7465 Před 10 měsíci +1

    You made me decide to go on a bard - was hesitating to play directly as an origin character. Let's be a bard and then mid the game to add more companion in the party (imagine a Karlach - Gale - Shadowheart - Jaheira - Minsc - Wyll party...) Hope to really enjoy more companion at the same time.

  • @TheAurgelmir
    @TheAurgelmir Před 10 měsíci

    Life domain is also very good for a Cleric. I would use the Strength build spec for her, but then focus mostly on wisdom.
    This gives you a lot of healing, and she can still use heavy armor.
    I'm planning on going War Domain myself though.
    There is something to be said for going "odd numbers" on ability scores, but that's more of an "experienced player" thing. It let's you take a "half feat" for instance.
    Since BG3 moved away from the classic 5E ability score improvements on races, there's not many other places where I would recommend doing odd numbers. Although there are some cases where you might be able to get 17 in to ability scores, which can be optimal to get them both to 18 at 4th level. (But I don't think any of those cases are available in BG3 anymore)

  • @jr.BoarOfGold
    @jr.BoarOfGold Před 10 měsíci

    I'm hyped!!

  • @Mitchenzo282
    @Mitchenzo282 Před 10 měsíci

    Absolutely loving this series. I’ve not played DND since Neverwinter Nights 2, and bitten off more than I can chew with my class choices.

  • @ninjabiscuit
    @ninjabiscuit Před 8 měsíci

    So, great guide as always. I have been choosing wizard for BG games since the beginning. (I love collecting spells.) Sounds like you're recommending a different course. I'll check it out.

  • @thespianmask8451
    @thespianmask8451 Před 10 měsíci +1

    That one team comp is EXACTLY what I was contemplating! Karlach, Shadowheart, and Wyll for my Halfling Gloomstalker Ranger.

  • @colbyrackler3915
    @colbyrackler3915 Před 10 měsíci

    I have Shadowheart, Astarion, and Wyll, and I'm a Moon Druid who does a lot of wild-shaping and part time support/offensive casting as needed, and it's interesting....would recommend

  • @terp8373
    @terp8373 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video for a newbie duffer like me. Just starting my first game now.

  • @CrackingCritic
    @CrackingCritic Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks! I am that new player, don’t know DnD or BG… Really appreciate your vids

  • @SPSteve
    @SPSteve Před 10 měsíci

    Great video! I'd like to play as a Ranger but if I take Gale, Karlach and Shadowheart I can't because I don't have a charisma character. Wyll was underwhelming in EA, he wasn't Wizard enough and he wasn't fighter enough. I'd like to leave Astarion and Lazael unrecruited and save them for a neutral or evil playthrough so I can save their dialog and keep it fresh for a second play-through.

  • @StarBoundFables
    @StarBoundFables Před 4 měsíci

    Cool! I'm new to D&D & am playing a fighter (with the goal of subclassing EK tank). So, I'll aim to party with Astarion, ShadowHeart, & Wyl (Oh lolz, I just realized that's the only group composition with a suggestion of choose: 'Fighter')

  • @scaramouche7759
    @scaramouche7759 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Me new to dnd: 7 hours into the game, and just got my fourth party member 😂 this game is crazy. It’s not perfect but the thing that is really impressing me is the freedom and creativity.

  • @juliendrainville7131
    @juliendrainville7131 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Shadowheart can absolutely do stealth and sleight of hand with her background selection and the help of guidance, in case some can't stand Astarion...

  • @Moffattt
    @Moffattt Před 10 měsíci

    what i gather from this video is choose bard lmao.
    i think my early part comp will be myself as monk, astarion, shadowheart and gale. what i do from there is a good question. shadowheart seems to good to pass up from the supportive skills and the fact that she can wear heavy armor and a shield for defence so she can act as a makeshift tank if needed.
    planning on doing the dark origin story thing because it sounds interesting and when im done with that i think il start another one playing as astarion. being able to play out hes backstory sounds like a treat as hes backstory is what sounds the best from what i have gathered from the other companions.

  • @maycoalvarenga1911
    @maycoalvarenga1911 Před 8 měsíci

    First time playing a game like BG3 and I started as Paladin and always used in my party Laezel, Shadowheart and Gale, and sometimes I swap Laezel for Karlach. I struggled at first since I never played a game like this, but from act 2 and beyond the game's been smooth in all situations