Apocalypse Character Moveset History - Capcom Vs. Legacy
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0:00 - Capcom Vs. Legacy Intro
0:18 - Introduction and Character History
6:33 - X-Men Vs. Street Fighter
9:40 - Comic Influences & Apocalypse Now Stage Analysis
13:04 - (Translated) Character Interactions
15:37 - Comic Recommendation
21:09 - Marvel Super Heroes Vs. Street Fighter
22:50 - Apocalypse Now: Redux
24:12 - Character Interactions
28:08 - Closing - Hry
Useless trivia: John Colicos, the legend who voiced Apocalypse in X-Men TAS, also played the first ever Klingon in the original Star Trek.
Dude I watched DS9 at the same time as I was watching X-Men TAS and I never put two together. He was amazing. Sadly he is gone r.i.p.
Confirmed Adetokumboh M'Cormack has Voice of Apocalypse in X-men 97 young apocalypse in egypt and present day he can resurrect gambit and banshee form as Four Horsemen.
"I am as far beyond mutants as they are beyond you. I am ETERNAL!!" True to his persona and his thirst for power, that's Apocalypse in a nutshell. Well done.
13:40 “You’re under arrest Apocalypse!” is hilarious like come on Chun-Li
Well…..Thanos gets arrested at the end of a Spider-Man comic.
The long-haired character in the glass near Beast must be Rictor (Julio Richter) he was one of the new characters saved by X-Factor in the team's first run. The other one is just Forge with Sunspot's head.
Apocalypse must have left *_quite_* the mark in fighting game history back in the day, since he’s the reason later bosses in the series (save Cyber Akuma) having giant forms (even Yami), and French Bread in particular even paid homage to him with _their_ giant bosses in earlier versions of Melty Blood in the mid-late 2000’s.
"there exists no freedom from me. there is only freedom through me!"
"i am far beyond mutants as they are beyond you!"
"i am the rocks of the eternal shore: crash against me and BE BROKEN!"
Apocalypse had some of the greatest lines
Too many great lines, yeah.
I would say that the right most capsule on top is Morph as well, but that means someone remembers him existing in the cartoon because I remember him bitting the bullet on the very first episode of it.
He came back several times. It's been awhile but he was definitely back several times and evil/angry about having been left behind. Idk how that times with this though.
I was hoping Punisher would be one of the characters trapped in the capsules. It could be a homage to his game being the first time Marvel collaborated with Capcom.
Dude! I've been rewatching your X-Men videos because of X-Men '97 and given what's teased in that show, this might actually be perfect timing ^^
Yeah. Theyre totally on track with AoA comic albeit with some creative liberites
Apocalypse showing up usually takes a co-ordinated effort from all mutants to take down... or y'know, one clumsy Japanese comedian.
I actually had no idea his story ran that deep or that he was a recurring villain! I had always thought he was just kinda a 90s character Marvel wanted to promote at the time
Yep! He was more or less contained to X-books for his first few years, but the one two punch of X-Men: The Animated Series and Age of Apocalypse did a lot to boost his recognition among the general public.
I really wish Apocalypse was in more games. He is the other X-Men's main villain outside of Magneto and human leaders.
I really love him in the 90's show, he looks great in Evolution and I wish Wolverine and the X-Men finished so we could see what happened with him.
He's in most X-Men games in some manner.
@@baddabaddabaddaswing not playable and he deserves to be in more fighting games
What's sort of odd is if you look at that stage detail on the Marvel vs Capcom wiki, it looks like its a different sprite for Forge, and Cannonball rather than Sunspot next to him.
As for the two mystery mutants on the other side of the stage, I think the short haired one has to be Morph. The one with the longer hair, and *possibly* a headband, would make me think its not an X-Man at all, but rather Fabian Cortez. Though that might mean he's not wearing a big X on his costume there, but rather the V like design that the Acolytes have. If that's the case, the Sunspot on the other side may actually be another Acolyte since they have the same body (Forge and "Morph" also have the same body). I don't know what Acolyte that'd be though.
So I actually combed through this video, and sure enough, there's some footage of Cannonball being in Sunspot's place (At 10:43, specifically). I'm guessing they randomly swap the sprites when the stage is loaded, though I have no clue why they'd have two separate Forge sprites.
Thanks for pointing this out, I kinda wish I'd caught that before putting this video out haha
Wow. He gets so rude with everyone else, but Storm gets his respect.
I know its unofficial but the indie fighting engine MUGEN made a fully playable normal Apocalypse with a completely original moveset. His intro shows him as En Sabah Nur, then he rips off his cloak and coats himself in his iconic armor. He uses various alien weapons from his suit, including his hand cannon and shield from the animated series. In fact, you shouod make a retrospective on MUGEN and how their sprites compare to Capcom. Some characters are ripped right from the games while some are actually improved. Like Wolverine, mid fight, you can remove or put on his mask as a taunt, giving the option to play as him in his masked or unmasked looks which is a useless but awesome thing for fans.
Thank you for telling us who the characters in the stage are. It's been on my mind for years
Capcom knows how to get X-Men right.
I like how apocalypse berates and mocks everyone in his intro except for Ryu and Storm. The way he speaks sounds kinda respectful in a way by calling Ryu the wandering warrior and storm the mistress of elements.
Man I remember when I first fought Apocalypse as a kid in X-Men vs. Street Fighter and just being in awe
Hold it just looking see up right here found it spot two character cameo is Morph and Kitty Pryde get trap by apocalypse stage X-men Vs. Street Fighter series and Marvel Super Heroes Vs. Street Fighter series.
He straight called Gambit an "insignificant petty thief".😂😂😂
This video popped up in my feed earlier today. I've now spent 5 hours watching your Vs Legacy videos.
Honestly man, these videos are absolutely dope as fuck.
A lot of other 'Legacy' videos I've seen regarding these games get a little too FGC-geeky for me.
But your stuff hits a real sweet spot; your genuine love for these games (and the comics) has got me hooked.
Keep 'em coming man.
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Thanks! I'm far from the best player, but bridging the gap between appreciation of general aesthetics and the more hardcore aspects of the games is exactly the balance I'm trying to strike with these videos, so it's nice to hear that it's appealing to others!
this guy just posts banger after banger
I think if Apocalypse managed to move out of the X-Men Suburbs into the wider Marvel neighborhood he could actually be big enough to become a boss in a game like this ( you know if they ever get around making more!). He's definitely got the powers and the scope. We can dream, right?
Though unfortunately his time has lead to a bit of Darkseidification. You know, Darkseid who's a big threat on paper but Superman has beaten him up so much it's like "Ugh Darkseid. Clean Up in aisle 3. Superman get in here."
Not the characters's fault of course but you can only watch an "INDESTRUCTIBLE" character get trounced so many times before it demotes him to "jobber with hype".
Speaking of,non fighting games dont help with this. X-Men Mutant Apocalypse. He's like the middle point boss on your way to fight the real tough guy of the piece, Magneto. They should have called the game X-Men: Mutant Magneto. Clone Wars for the Sega Genesis also has Apocalypse incidentally as a boss but at least you have to go to Apocalypse's stage and treated as a big deal, not like fighting Apocalypse in a random room in Genosha.
And finally I think the Apocalypse in the movie was...interesting. They took his whole thing and made him a cult leader who doesn't just kidnap people puts them in tubes and brainwashes them (although I think he does do some of that) but finds people at the lowest point in their lives, losing family, losing their powers, being Olivia Munn, and he CHARMS them into being part of his deathcult with promises of a better life. Maybe the movie's...not so hot. IDK I haven't seen it in years, but it's an interesting angle on the character.
In the first X-Men game on the Genesis (simply titled "X-Men"), he's the level boss for the third stage of the game, Excalibur's lighthouse. Well to be fair, it's the Danger Room simulating the location and Apocalypse, but it still feels like the game is cheapening the X-Men's second most iconic antagonist by just having him randomly hanging out there.
This channel is criminally underrated. I liked the video to help. Ur videos are well made and you dive into the lore in a great way. Keep it up man I cant wait for ur channel to pop off like it should.
Thank you! The videos aren't perfect, and I still have a lot of room for improvement on multiple levels, but I try my best.
So Apocalypse, well I don't really have any experience with him myself, I've not really seen any X-Men cartoon other than Wolverine and the X-Men and none of the other Marvel stuff I have experience with has him in it, so seeing Max Dood play XMVSF and MSHVSF was actually my first-time hearing about him. It's kind of a shame we haven't seen him in any of the other Vs games, like making more sprites for regular sized Apocalypse and having some of the boss stuff be his supers would be sick, heck you could even have a super sorta like one Anakaris has in Marvel 2 where he becomes a sort of playable boss fight for a few seconds, that would be sick af. Always nice to see another boss covered as well.
"It is time you met your father miss Li" You did not need to go that far man.
Replying to "Wow, you look scary" with "I'm going to send you to your dead father" is a hell of an escalation, yeah.
Just watch one of those “best quotes of Apocalypse” supercuts on CZcams. Great stuff. He’s a very verbose immortal.
AOA is one of my top favorite stories I have been reading X-Men for a long time. I was maybe 21 when it came out. Great video. One of my favorite characters
First! Always clutching up for a new vid
That is Morph. The one beside him is Richtor.
You know I _thought_ that might've been Rictor, given he's directly opposite Sunspot, another New Mutant transplanted into X-Force; but the hair was kind of throwing me off, so I discounted the possibility. I think you might be right, though!
@@TheSeventhForce The hair is the mullet style he had around the end of the OG New Mutants title, but in particular he looks like how he appears in X-Tinction Agenda and his cameo in the animated series Slave Island S1 episode. The hair and green/white mutate outfit is identical to both appearances.
22:01 this is the same laser sound used in Mega Man Battle Network 4, for the Blue Moon Giga Chip, and in MMBN6 for the SunMoon Program Advance.
This video series is great and it actually makes hope we get a new crossover game of some sort.
Babeeeeeeee a new Capcom vs. Legacy video just dropped
Would love for you to do one on Storm. Especially since she’s the second leader of the x-men next to Scott since the 80s
Also her being one of the best characters competitively in mvc2
Apocalypse is my favorite villain in X-Men comics and the 90s cartoon.
Dude You Show Up When I Least Expect It crazy need to work on that buddy really
Interesting that the 3 Street Fighter characters that were captured were Blanka, Sakura and Dan. Cause the three of them later on become canonical friends, but I don't know if that was even established by the time of this game, considering Blanka wouldn't return until Alpha 3. I wonder if this had an impact on the lore?
I always had the impression that these characters were *generally* inspired by their comic book incarnations, but it's crazy to me just how much direct inspiration is taken fron specific pages and panels. You can really tell the team really loved the characters.
Yep! There was a Capcom dev (Katsuya Akitomo, I mention him in a few videos) that was a big Marvel fan and would translate entire issues of comics for the dev staff so they could read up and use them as reference/inspiration.
He stated for example, that Amazing Spider-Man issue #350 was what he had the team study when designing Dr Doom in the series. If you read it, you can immediately point out molecular shield, plasma beam and even the pink photon shots out. It's really neat, they did their homework.
The right hand side first capsule appears to be Richter, which fits with Sunspot also being used.
Exodus, Sinister and Selene Gallio would be cool too see in this style
So doing a bit of research my best guess on who other two are Julio Richter, only resemblance is the lengthy hair, and a big maybe on Cannonball. But I agree, it looks a lot more like Morph from TAS.
Other than that, I have absolutely no idea.
I also like the small detail of Storm looking uncomfortable since she's known to be claustrophobic.
supposedly the two on the right end of the screen are Dan (left pod) and Psylocke (right pod). I can see Psylocke as she wore that outfit before, but I have a hard time thinking thats Dan.
I mean if that translation is close enough it does give us a bit of much needed Shadow lore.
just finished watching the onslaught video by coincidence.
now im waiting for abyss
My Top 5 Best Final Bosses of the MVC Series:
1. Onslaught
2. Galactus
3. Cyber-Akuma
4. Abyss
3. Apocalypse
One reason why Onslaught is on top because of many certain obvious.
What's the problem in that issue characters designs being "90's as hell"?
90's X-Men is the only X-Men. The new series proved that beyond any doubt.
Oh, I love 90s comic aesthetics, but I know they're not for everyone, particularly Liefield designs in particular.
That said, I was mostly referring to Stryfe, since his outfit is what it is lol
I hope hes in base roster of mvc4 if that ever happens and comes to marvel rivals also
it would have been sick if they put archangel in one of these games tbh, or had an apocalypse that was a regular character to play as
Do Norimaro, the Japanese exclusive MSH VS SF character next.
I'll get to him eventually!
We need a new Xmen fighting game. Between the renewed cartoon and upcoming movie reboot - its the perfect time!
hey actually, you ever considered Shuma-Gorath for a next vid? The Sentinel one was awesome.
Shuma won't be next up, but I plan to have a video for him out before summer's over!
I never have anything to say about Apocalypse, so i'll probably read whatever you recommend
Please do videos on Capt. America & Shuma Gorath
Can you do marrow next
I am pretty sure the guy in the capsule on the right is Morph from X-Men TAS. The facial structure and the x seem to so say so.
Yep, Morph seems to be the general consensus among everyone else as well!
I never realized apocalypse's stage is basically the pods from the Matrix (I know this game predated the Matrix, which makes you wonder)
Unrelated to fighting games but what do you think about the endless debate of video games being a legitimate art form.
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I meant within the Capcom vs. (SNK/Marvel/Tatsunoko) games, not fighting games in general, lol
Bro I thought Apocalypse came out in the 90s, shows you what kind of X-fan I am
I'm gonna go with Morph and Rictor
2 x men villains in the row 😂
Of course my man juggernaut gets exclusive dialogue
That one's a bit of editorializing on my part 😆 The quotes in the second & third text box were originally in one text box in the Japanese version, but it wouldn't have fit without the text being really small for the English translation, so I cut the last "Now I shall take your life!" bit he has for every other character so that the pacing wouldn't be screwed up. Apologies for being unintentionally misleading there!
@@TheSeventhForce thanks for clearing that up
Imagine if Iron Man and War Machine get covered in the same video...
I do really wish Apocalypse had a human sized full sprite moveset, with his giant form as a second fight, like Onslaught.
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A video all about ME! Well done fellow Mutant!💣🔥💯📠
#xmen97 #freemvc2
He should have a regular character also
Wait I could be mishearing or wrong but yami is not original to the versus series. It’s the final boss of okami. That being said it is an odd decision that they made yami the final boss of the game where Amatersu does not appear
@@gishigoshi The "original" bit was in reference to Abyss, not Yami. Apologies for not being clearer!
@@TheSeventhForce no problem man that might’ve been mishearing on my part. Keep up the great work I love the series!
At this rate the next one is Galactus or Yami
I'ma be real, Apocalypse should be playable in the next game but somewhat scaled down.
9:36??? no hit box? it works right there? I am confused
That's the laser satellite attack hitting from behind Cyclops just off screen. It does look like it's the sphere doing that, now that you mention it. 😅
@@TheSeventhForce AWWW RIP. thanks for letting know.
I AM THE APOCALYPSE!!!! HA HA HA
He lied.
Indeed