Apologies for sounding a bit more nasally than usual in this one, by the way! Allergies were kicking my ass the weekend I recorded this script. If you want to hear someone try to say "rocket" while holding back a sneeze, check out 8:40. 😅
Wanted to let you know you’re doing a great job. I just subbed. Keep it up. We have similar thoughts on these versus games. Also I love twewy too starting to think we have similar interests.
That fact about Megaman gaining Magnetic Shockwave is just too cool. Kinda wish it made the transition to MvC2 as well. Also I’m interested to see what you cook up for the Roll video
You have no idea how happy I am that you uncovered the GOAT of Capcom himself. Mega Man truly is Capcom’s mascot for a reason next to Ryu and I’m glad you gave my boy the respect he deserves! Classic Mega Man, honestly deserved to return in a true MVC4 I’m especially happy that Smash 4 introduced me to Mega Man and he’s one of my favorite franchises since next to Mario, Sonic, and Pac-Man. He pretty much deserves to be considered legendary just like Mario, Sonic, and Pac-Man too.
I raised an eyebrow at smash 4 being anyone's introduction to Megaman but then i remembered mvc was MY introduction Megaman when I was little Timmy so it's all relatable still lol. Capcom's GOAT indeed, its very telling in a sea of characters where i only heard of spiderman and wolverine, the blue kid with a helmet and arm cannon is what caught 4 yr old me's attention the most.
Definitely watching this after work. I'm disappointed in how dirty Megaman was done in MvC1 and MvC2...the dude had more than enough games at that point to give him a better moveset that goes beyond mostly generic punches and kicks
Yeah, I feel that. That was my opinion on him for the longest time, especially when you compare him to say, Smash, but over time I came to appreciate what they did with him in these games, even if they go into some odd territory. Hopefully I make my case well enough in the video when you're able to watch it! (I should probably get back to work too, my break's almost over lol)
@@TheSeventhForce I skimmed through the video and saw that there's a segment regarding how old anime inspired Megaman's MvC moveset...that's the first time I've heard of that but it's an interesting observation. I see what you're getting at. Reminds me of theories regarding how Captain Falcon from Smash was apparently inspired by Japanese Superheroes. It's sad to see how both Classic Megaman and Megaman X were done so dirty in the MvC series. Reminds me of how poorly Wario in Smash got treated
@@mersunarytigre I will never, ever understand why Smash basically pretended Wario Land doesn't exist. Wario finally getting the shoulder bash felt like crumbs considering the labors of love going on elsewhere on the roster.
@@TheSeventhForce The worst part is that Wario had his Shoulder Bash in his Smash debut. Ultimate made a big deal out of him having it as an apology for the move's removal in Smash 4.
I'd love to see him in another fighting game with some weapons from 9 through 11. It'd be interesting, considering 9 and 11 probably have the most versatile set of weapons in the classic series.
Another thing I love is how Mega Man is one of the few characters on the Capcom side with reading recommendations. That being the Archie comics. I think it would’ve been cool if you mentioned those but still you did a great video on Mega Man! He’s one of my favorite Capcom characters so I’m glad you talked about him.
I hadn't thought about it at the time, but after bringing the Archie MM comics up in my last video, I kinda wish I had put in a recommendation here, yeah.
I appreciate this retrospective and analysis of this particular version of Mega Man. It's always had a special place in my heart as it's the one that introduced me to Mega Man. If it wasn't for MvC, I might have not even been into Mega Man, let alone known about him. Fun fact: The Rush Drill is actually a scrapped item in Mega Man III! That's probably where they got the idea, aside from the Casshan nod.
17:45 Funny enough, we all thought Zero would be playable in Smash Ultimate but then it showed he is an Assist Trophy instead lol Looking back, I’m honestly relieved us Smash Players like myself were thankfully spared of the nightmare that would be a playable Zero in Smash Ultimate. Dude is broken in literally every game he’s in LMAO
I would have LOVED to have that broken Maverick Hunter as a second Mega Man representative. He would provided representation for two entire sub-series.
I blame the first moment I say the Hyper MegaMan super as the moment I would love fighting games forever. Going to the Brazilian arcade, my team in MvC was always MegaMan and someone else, but the Blue Bomber would always be there. Great video, made me remember how much I love this version of the character! (:
I always thought, if Mega Man does make it into another _Capcom VS_ game, they could take a similar approach to how he was in _Smash_ and have him use his Robot Master weapons as part of his Normal attacks as well as his Specials. For example; the Knight Crusher (Knight Man, _MM6)_ could work well for a Heavy Punch, the Charge Kick (Charge Man, _MM5)_ as part of his slide attack, and ones like the Flame Sword (Sword Man, _MM8)_ and Slash Claw (Slash Man, _MM7)_ as parts of his combos!
Another great video. I still remember how lil me reacted seeing Mega Man in MVC1. I couldn't believe it. Not just him, but also Venom and Strider. It felt unreal. These videos always allow me to recapture those amazing times. Thank you.
At 7:31, There's possibility about Hyper Megaman's Armor being a cameo for Grand Kaiser from also Capcom's Game: Tech Romancer. At 14:26, The Giant on Road is Mad-Grinder from Megaman 7.
Yeah, I get to Mad Grinder a little later in the video. And Grand Kaiser in Tech Romancer is itself a Mazinger send-up (probably the most obvious one in a Capcom game, honestly) so I think it's more a case of both things referencing the same thing instead of each other.
One of the things I love about game series MVC and KH and that instead of making a bland tie in license game Capcom and Square took the Marvel and Disney license and did something incredibly unique with it.
little thing i want to mention about megaman's mvc1 ending, it may have been mentioned before but the thing picked up before he got the "ability" is the thing you have to pick up to gain a new ability in the arcade games which i believe also leads to the same screen you see in the ending (probably not but... i remember something like it)
Man, megaman was my main with spider man back in the day and his design is so iconic. I just wished capcom used more of his classic iteration for more games in crossovers but I'm glad that he was in smash with the mega upper. I used to call that, the megashoryu since it looked a shoryuken exclusively for him
I didn't know where it was from growing up until I got the anniversary collection on gamecube that had the two arcade games as unlockables. I straight up thought it was a shoryuken until then. 😆
MvC2 literally made me obsessed with Mega Man as a kid, I had to know more about this cool robot guy. First I got Battle Network 3 which didn't seem exactly like what I had been looking for but I thought it was super interesting in its own right. Then I got Mega Man Zero 2 which has some guy called Zero in it and not Mega Man. Finally I saw Mega Man Anniversary Collection on the shelf one day and could finally understand lol
As much as I love both Marvel Vs Capcom and Kingdom Hearts am I the only one who is finds it weird seeing western characters like Captain America or Mickey meeting Japanese characters like Ryu or Final Fantasy.
Coming back to this video after it appeared in my recommendations feels great. Regarding Megaman's moveset, the Item Change was just clunky. I get the concept (Eddie bringing Megaman items + Weapon Change) but they should've just given him a Super similar to Ryu's style change (Where he gains Ken's and Akuma's movesets) in which Megaman's moveset gets tweaked to use a specific pool of weapons from the games. Or they should've given him something that didn't have him chasing after the Item Get.
Aye! So that’s what you meant by “sooner than you think!” Neat video on Classic MegaMan dude! I think it compliments the X and Zero videos pretty well! 👍
Maybe this is just me, but I've always preferred playing Mega-Man over X in the Marvel VS Capcom series. Mega-Man was who got me to stick around, and I far prefer his combos + buttons over X in Infinite.
Just a correction on the QCF+P move: Rock Ball, Tornado Hold, and Leaf Shield aren't tied to LP, MP, and HP buttons, respectively. Actually, the QCF+P move changes depending on the Weapon Item Megaman holds at the moment (QCB+K). Among these weapons, only Tornado Hold has an observable variation, particularly in the distance the weapon travels depending on the punch button pressed during the command input.
Also, Megaman's Japanese name "Rockman" is a reference to "rock-paper-scissors", which is essentially the main gameplay mechanic of his origin series. Moreover, most of their names in Japan are references to musical genres and terms: Rock 'n' Roll (Rockman/Megaman and Roll), Blues (Protoman), Rush, Beat, Tango, Forte (Bass), Gospel (Treble), among others.
I waited to hear just one line about Tengu Man and that's all I needed. But yeah no I need classic Mega Man back with some new weapons from 9-11 and a double gear mechanic stat
I KNEW the Beat Plane projectiles looked familiar, but I could never recall where I'd seen them before. Man, I wish I had known, it's going to bother me that it's not in the video 😂
I'm not really sure! There's definitely some I think would be neat like The Rescuers, but I think I need to see what angles they take with the Disney worlds first.
Thanks! And yeah, that word's tricky for me since I tend to flip between the French and western pronunciations of the word that sometimes use the H sound, so you get mangled mashups like how I say it in the video. I'll try to be more cognizant of it in the future! 😅
I wanted to keep this mostly contained to the Vs. series appearances as far as the analysis goes. Going into his other crossover appearances (Cannon Spike, SFxT, Smash, etc...) might be something I do in a future video, though!
Huh, so THAT'S where Capcom got all those game-exclusive moves from. Unrelated, Japanese-only anime. NGL, I hate that super even more now, tbh. I do agree that Sakurai made the ideal Mega Man moveset in Smash though, at least.
That fact about Megaman gaining Magnetic Shockwave is just too cool. Kinda wish it made the transition to MvC2 as well. Also I’m interested to see what you cook up for the Roll video
Apologies for sounding a bit more nasally than usual in this one, by the way! Allergies were kicking my ass the weekend I recorded this script. If you want to hear someone try to say "rocket" while holding back a sneeze, check out 8:40. 😅
Wanted to let you know you’re doing a great job. I just subbed. Keep it up. We have similar thoughts on these versus games. Also I love twewy too starting to think we have similar interests.
@@adamlodge8093 Thanks, I really appreciate the kind words!
And yeah, TWEWY is a fantastic series. It doesn't get nearly enough love tbh
@@TheSeventhForce "i love mega man n' roll " by joan jetts couldn't resist
The "Rock" in "Rockman" stands for his full legal name, "Rockert Mann"
That fact about Megaman gaining Magnetic Shockwave is just too cool. Kinda wish it made the transition to MvC2 as well.
Also I’m interested to see what you cook up for the Roll video
“I love megamaney road “ by weird Al
You have no idea how happy I am that you uncovered the GOAT of Capcom himself. Mega Man truly is Capcom’s mascot for a reason next to Ryu and I’m glad you gave my boy the respect he deserves! Classic Mega Man, honestly deserved to return in a true MVC4
I’m especially happy that Smash 4 introduced me to Mega Man and he’s one of my favorite franchises since next to Mario, Sonic, and Pac-Man. He pretty much deserves to be considered legendary just like Mario, Sonic, and Pac-Man too.
I raised an eyebrow at smash 4 being anyone's introduction to Megaman but then i remembered mvc was MY introduction Megaman when I was little Timmy so it's all relatable still lol. Capcom's GOAT indeed, its very telling in a sea of characters where i only heard of spiderman and wolverine, the blue kid with a helmet and arm cannon is what caught 4 yr old me's attention the most.
Definitely watching this after work.
I'm disappointed in how dirty Megaman was done in MvC1 and MvC2...the dude had more than enough games at that point to give him a better moveset that goes beyond mostly generic punches and kicks
Yeah, I feel that. That was my opinion on him for the longest time, especially when you compare him to say, Smash, but over time I came to appreciate what they did with him in these games, even if they go into some odd territory. Hopefully I make my case well enough in the video when you're able to watch it!
(I should probably get back to work too, my break's almost over lol)
@@TheSeventhForce I skimmed through the video and saw that there's a segment regarding how old anime inspired Megaman's MvC moveset...that's the first time I've heard of that but it's an interesting observation. I see what you're getting at. Reminds me of theories regarding how Captain Falcon from Smash was apparently inspired by Japanese Superheroes.
It's sad to see how both Classic Megaman and Megaman X were done so dirty in the MvC series. Reminds me of how poorly Wario in Smash got treated
The real crime was x in mvci. And I’m not even the biggest X stan
@@mersunarytigre I will never, ever understand why Smash basically pretended Wario Land doesn't exist. Wario finally getting the shoulder bash felt like crumbs considering the labors of love going on elsewhere on the roster.
@@TheSeventhForce The worst part is that Wario had his Shoulder Bash in his Smash debut. Ultimate made a big deal out of him having it as an apology for the move's removal in Smash 4.
I'd love to see Megaman in a new Mahvel installment, but maybe with his Megaman 11 powers and mechanics. Excellent job, man!
I'd love to see him in another fighting game with some weapons from 9 through 11. It'd be interesting, considering 9 and 11 probably have the most versatile set of weapons in the classic series.
@@TheSeventhForce
Plus World 5 and Megaman and Bass.
It might also be cool to get him in a CvS game.
Another thing I love is how Mega Man is one of the few characters on the Capcom side with reading recommendations. That being the Archie comics. I think it would’ve been cool if you mentioned those but still you did a great video on Mega Man! He’s one of my favorite Capcom characters so I’m glad you talked about him.
I hadn't thought about it at the time, but after bringing the Archie MM comics up in my last video, I kinda wish I had put in a recommendation here, yeah.
The legacy of mugman from the Capcom vs
I appreciate this retrospective and analysis of this particular version of Mega Man. It's always had a special place in my heart as it's the one that introduced me to Mega Man. If it wasn't for MvC, I might have not even been into Mega Man, let alone known about him.
Fun fact: The Rush Drill is actually a scrapped item in Mega Man III! That's probably where they got the idea, aside from the Casshan nod.
17:45 Funny enough, we all thought Zero would be playable in Smash Ultimate but then it showed he is an Assist Trophy instead lol
Looking back, I’m honestly relieved us Smash Players like myself were thankfully spared of the nightmare that would be a playable Zero in Smash Ultimate. Dude is broken in literally every game he’s in LMAO
I would have LOVED to have that broken Maverick Hunter as a second Mega Man representative. He would provided representation for two entire sub-series.
He could've been the Meta Knight of Ultimate 😂
I think the Mega Man Zero version would've been good too
That opening theme really brought me back to when I got a sega Saturn. MM8 & X4 were my first games for it. I believe I still have them somewhere
I blame the first moment I say the Hyper MegaMan super as the moment I would love fighting games forever. Going to the Brazilian arcade, my team in MvC was always MegaMan and someone else, but the Blue Bomber would always be there. Great video, made me remember how much I love this version of the character! (:
Sounds like a good memory! Thanks for watching!
Love Megaman in the VS series
I always thought, if Mega Man does make it into another _Capcom VS_ game, they could take a similar approach to how he was in _Smash_ and have him use his Robot Master weapons as part of his Normal attacks as well as his Specials. For example; the Knight Crusher (Knight Man, _MM6)_ could work well for a Heavy Punch, the Charge Kick (Charge Man, _MM5)_ as part of his slide attack, and ones like the Flame Sword (Sword Man, _MM8)_ and Slash Claw (Slash Man, _MM7)_ as parts of his combos!
Your channel is literally one of the very BEST here on CZcams. Thank you for the amazing content, good sir :)
Another great video. I still remember how lil me reacted seeing Mega Man in MVC1. I couldn't believe it. Not just him, but also Venom and Strider. It felt unreal. These videos always allow me to recapture those amazing times. Thank you.
My thoughts exactly. Game blew my damn mind the first time I saw it.
At 7:31, There's possibility about Hyper Megaman's Armor being a cameo for Grand Kaiser from also Capcom's Game: Tech Romancer.
At 14:26, The Giant on Road is Mad-Grinder from Megaman 7.
Yeah, I get to Mad Grinder a little later in the video.
And Grand Kaiser in Tech Romancer is itself a Mazinger send-up (probably the most obvious one in a Capcom game, honestly) so I think it's more a case of both things referencing the same thing instead of each other.
I believe both Capcom and Takashi Shono loves Giants Mechas.
Also, in Tech Romancer there's reference to Ultraman too.
Yeah I love Megaman in the versus games!
One of the things I love about game series MVC and KH and that instead of making a bland tie in license game Capcom and Square took the Marvel and Disney license and did something incredibly unique with it.
If I am not mistaken, Rock and Roll are the only Capcom Characters in MvC1 that did not originate from an arcade game.
That's correct!
little thing i want to mention about megaman's mvc1 ending, it may have been mentioned before but the thing picked up before he got the "ability" is the thing you have to pick up to gain a new ability in the arcade games which i believe also leads to the same screen you see in the ending (probably not but... i remember something like it)
You're absolutely right, thanks for pointing that out!
Man, megaman was my main with spider man back in the day and his design is so iconic. I just wished capcom used more of his classic iteration for more games in crossovers but I'm glad that he was in smash with the mega upper. I used to call that, the megashoryu since it looked a shoryuken exclusively for him
I didn't know where it was from growing up until I got the anniversary collection on gamecube that had the two arcade games as unlockables. I straight up thought it was a shoryuken until then. 😆
Idk how i missed that you did a Megaman episode
MvC2 literally made me obsessed with Mega Man as a kid, I had to know more about this cool robot guy. First I got Battle Network 3 which didn't seem exactly like what I had been looking for but I thought it was super interesting in its own right. Then I got Mega Man Zero 2 which has some guy called Zero in it and not Mega Man. Finally I saw Mega Man Anniversary Collection on the shelf one day and could finally understand lol
iirc, the Rush Drill is also something that was considered to appear in an official Mega Man game. (3, I think?)
Yeah, MM3. I was going to mention it in the video but cut it for time and out of concern it'd be redundant.
As much as I love both Marvel Vs Capcom and Kingdom Hearts am I the only one who is finds it weird seeing western characters like Captain America or Mickey meeting Japanese characters like Ryu or Final Fantasy.
Coming back to this video after it appeared in my recommendations feels great.
Regarding Megaman's moveset, the Item Change was just clunky. I get the concept (Eddie bringing Megaman items + Weapon Change) but they should've just given him a Super similar to Ryu's style change (Where he gains Ken's and Akuma's movesets) in which Megaman's moveset gets tweaked to use a specific pool of weapons from the games.
Or they should've given him something that didn't have him chasing after the Item Get.
Aye! So that’s what you meant by “sooner than you think!” Neat video on Classic MegaMan dude! I think it compliments the X and Zero videos pretty well! 👍
Thanks!
This was a wonderful look at Mega Man! Great job
Maybe this is just me, but I've always preferred playing Mega-Man over X in the Marvel VS Capcom series. Mega-Man was who got me to stick around, and I far prefer his combos + buttons over X in Infinite.
Just a correction on the QCF+P move: Rock Ball, Tornado Hold, and Leaf Shield aren't tied to LP, MP, and HP buttons, respectively. Actually, the QCF+P move changes depending on the Weapon Item Megaman holds at the moment (QCB+K).
Among these weapons, only Tornado Hold has an observable variation, particularly in the distance the weapon travels depending on the punch button pressed during the command input.
Also, Megaman's Japanese name "Rockman" is a reference to "rock-paper-scissors", which is essentially the main gameplay mechanic of his origin series. Moreover, most of their names in Japan are references to musical genres and terms: Rock 'n' Roll (Rockman/Megaman and Roll), Blues (Protoman), Rush, Beat, Tango, Forte (Bass), Gospel (Treble), among others.
Huh, don't know how I overlooked that. Thanks for the correction there.
Nice video. Please do Megaman Volnutt from TVC next!!!
I waited to hear just one line about Tengu Man and that's all I needed. But yeah no I need classic Mega Man back with some new weapons from 9-11 and a double gear mechanic stat
His normal Mega Buster design comes first in Pocket Fighter, with Felicia. And Beat Plane shots is from Alpha 2 Sakura's hadouken.
I KNEW the Beat Plane projectiles looked familiar, but I could never recall where I'd seen them before. Man, I wish I had known, it's going to bother me that it's not in the video 😂
Since you brought up Kingdom Hearts with KH4 still in development are there any particular words you would like to see in KH4?
I'm not really sure! There's definitely some I think would be neat like The Rescuers, but I think I need to see what angles they take with the Disney worlds first.
Jin video when?
can you do frank west ones next?
please!
Excellent video as always!
FYI homage is pronounced as though there is no H.
Thanks! And yeah, that word's tricky for me since I tend to flip between the French and western pronunciations of the word that sometimes use the H sound, so you get mangled mashups like how I say it in the video. I'll try to be more cognizant of it in the future! 😅
It would have been nice to also include Super Smash Bros.
I wanted to keep this mostly contained to the Vs. series appearances as far as the analysis goes. Going into his other crossover appearances (Cannon Spike, SFxT, Smash, etc...) might be something I do in a future video, though!
Huh, so THAT'S where Capcom got all those game-exclusive moves from. Unrelated, Japanese-only anime. NGL, I hate that super even more now, tbh. I do agree that Sakurai made the ideal Mega Man moveset in Smash though, at least.
Liked n subbed
Thank you so much!
You think you will ever do Mugen break downs?
Not sure, haven't really ever given it any thought, to be honest.
I love megaman this was great ^_^
would you consider covering sfxt also?
Definitely part of the plan!
Only mega man characters left are tron bonne, mega man voltnutt and roll
And the zero from snk and onimusha if you want to count them
Don't forget Servbot and Sigma! (And yeah, I'll be covering SvC Chaos Zero in the future as well)
@@TheSeventhForce I knew i was forgetting something
Did you say Robert again? Maybe this is a running joke.
Also check out onimusha fighting game.
might have been on purpose this time 😉
@@TheSeventhForce well there's no Robert in the onimusha blade warriors but zero is in it so I'm sure he can get a mention
It makes me sad thaf MegaMan.exe isn't playable in any fighting games....even in marvel vs Capcom series 😢😢😢
He's (for whatever reason), playable in Onimusha Blade Warriors, if that's any consolation. Pretty good in that game too, if I remember right.
@@TheSeventhForce ohh really?? But I heard that game was so janky
It kind of is, but it's the good kind of jank where it's more fun than bad. Surprisingly content dense game, too.
@@TheSeventhForce I'll definitely going to try this game on emulator
We EARLY
That fact about Megaman gaining Magnetic Shockwave is just too cool. Kinda wish it made the transition to MvC2 as well.
Also I’m interested to see what you cook up for the Roll video