I found your wonderful channel today, because I just sold my Nikon "Full frame" mirrorless system, as it took the joy out of shooting for me. I have a few nice F mount prime lenses, and I have been researching Nikon's D7xxx line to replace it with. My greatest joy of shooting came from my old Nikon FM2, and then my Nikon D70s, with a very inexpensive Tamron 18-200 lens. The D7500 is on my radar as my next body. Thank you very much for covering the Nikon DX DSLR's in the modern age.
I‘ve been using APS-C (Canon) and never own full-frame. For me, except for some very rare extreme situation of taking wide angle in tight space (like in very old town, narrow streets to take photos of old buildings), I'm very happy with my APS-C (Canon 90D) for most of the time. Lucky I'm not very fond of super wide angle.
Indeed, those who like to shoot very wide will benefit more from a Full Frame in terms of lens choice (at least with some brands). In the meantime, enjoy your camera and shooting.
Great video, very informative and I share your views. I have a Nikon D700 with prime zoom 24-70 mm Nikkor lens but I haven't used them together because they are very heavy to carry around in walk about photography. As such, like you, I've ended up using my D7000 practically exclusively. I wanted to upgrade to the D500 but unfortunately Nikon discontinued the only professional crop sensor camera on the market. I guess I'll have to settle for the D7500 which shares the same sensor as the D500 however it does not have the XPeed5 processor of the D500 and its focusing and buffer capacity. The D7500 is still a very good camera and currently at an attractive price.
Fantastic review. I feel ashamed as years ago I noticed the same when I “upgraded” from nikon d300 to d700 however I could not explained it to myself… Thank you
@@WimBals Do you have any advise regarding choice between D850 and z8 ? Still I have d700 and couple nice lenses and considering if z8 is worth extra 1750$ ???
If you plan on doing more video then I'd get the Z8. Please note, you will probably also want to replace your lenses in the long term, which will entail a significant price tag. The sensor is also important, the D810, for example, did not give me pleasant colors. For example, I would dare to look at a D780. My 'best' camera that gives the most pleasant colors is the D200, at the expense of megapixels and ease of use.
Wim, thank you for a very educating video. Subscribed. Regarding the question: in a sense I moved from full frame to crop - I used film cameras which are 35mm. Now I use a Nikon crop camera and it is perfect for my wildlife and travel photography for all reasons you mentioned, especially lenses reach, weight and cost. But for landscape I feel full frame would be much better, though stitching panoramas is a way to overcome crop sensor limitations.
Thanks for info enjoy and learning good thing from you Just a Question? I am interested for Nikon 300mm f2.8 Lens with VR , Questions is now in this days this is the write purchase just like Becky of bokeh and wild life with convertor Just looking for opinion does it wise purchase or go with 300mm F4 pf lens with converter for wildlife special bird photography Thanks for your time
That lens is heavy with 2,59kg. I have the 300mm f/4 PF and it's great! However for birding you need more reach. So I would prefer the 500mm PF or the 200-500mm.
@@WimBals thanks Mr.wim I used 200-500 it’s almost the same but I guess I will go with 300mm pf 4 and add 1.7 converter may be it work good ! But thanks it’s heavy but I was looking for bokhe but I understand how it works .
Is one sensor different from the other as far as noise is concerned? Like is ISO 12800 noisier on crop sensor than FF? or does it not depend on sensor size but depend on the size of the pixel. Lets say if a FF and a crop sensor both had pixels the same size (there'd be less of them on the crop sensor of course) would the noise be the same for any given ISO?
Suppose you have a full frame camera and a crop sensor camera of 24 megapixels each. The pixels on the full frame will be larger simply due to the physical properties of the sensor. The crop sensor will require smaller pixels to fit the 24Mpx. That means that the full frame has about 1 stop less noise than the aps-c. But there ain't no such thing as a free lunch, if you want more depth of field and you have to close the aperture of your FF one stop, you immediately lose your advantage in terms of noise.
@@WimBals Interesting. Does that mean for any given exposure setting on any particular sensor will have less noise if the aperture is wider? I mean does the exposure of 1/60th sec @ f4 have more noise than taking the same picture at 1/30th sec @ f 5.6?
No, not at all, noise is caused by higher ISO values. You can indeed compensate for stopping down your aperture by using a slower shutter speed, but that is not endless and therein lies the danger of motion blur. That is why you can compensate for this loss of light with higher ISO values, resulting in a greater chance of noise. Of course you can use software to minimize this noise in post-production of your RAW photo, I use ISO 6400 and up if need to. The shutter speed - aperture - ISO triangle is covered in detail in my 'Learn photography - camera basics' video here on my channel.
I use Micro Four Thirds alongside Full Frame. Each format has it’s uses, pros & cons in different scenarios.
Well said: I've got a Nikon D700, but hardly use it, preferring to use D7500 and my old D300.
Thanks for dispelling the myth about full frame.
Thanks Brian!
The aps c system makes more sense to me as a wildlife photographer!
So true!
I found your wonderful channel today, because I just sold my Nikon "Full frame" mirrorless system, as it took the joy out of shooting for me. I have a few nice F mount prime lenses, and I have been researching Nikon's D7xxx line to replace it with. My greatest joy of shooting came from my old Nikon FM2, and then my Nikon D70s, with a very inexpensive Tamron 18-200 lens. The D7500 is on my radar as my next body. Thank you very much for covering the Nikon DX DSLR's in the modern age.
You can't go wrong with this d7500. Good luck 👍
I‘ve been using APS-C (Canon) and never own full-frame. For me, except for some very rare extreme situation of taking wide angle in tight space (like in very old town, narrow streets to take photos of old buildings), I'm very happy with my APS-C (Canon 90D) for most of the time. Lucky I'm not very fond of super wide angle.
Indeed, those who like to shoot very wide will benefit more from a Full Frame in terms of lens choice (at least with some brands).
In the meantime, enjoy your camera and shooting.
Thank you.
I learned a lot.
So glad you have made this video. I love my D7500 and D500 too.
Thanks Vlad
Great video, very informative and I share your views.
I have a Nikon D700 with prime zoom 24-70 mm Nikkor lens but I haven't used them together because they are very heavy to carry around in walk about photography. As such, like you, I've ended up using my D7000 practically exclusively. I wanted to upgrade to the D500 but unfortunately Nikon discontinued the only professional crop sensor camera on the market. I guess I'll have to settle for the D7500 which shares the same sensor as the D500 however it does not have the XPeed5 processor of the D500 and its focusing and buffer capacity. The D7500 is still a very good camera and currently at an attractive price.
The D500 is a lot larger than the D7500, just keep that in mind. The D7500 is a stripped down version of the D500.
Very nice indeed ... thank you so much!
You're welcome!
Fantastic review. I feel ashamed as years ago I noticed the same when I “upgraded” from nikon d300 to d700 however I could not explained it to myself…
Thank you
👍
@@WimBals Do you have any advise regarding choice between D850 and z8 ?
Still I have d700 and couple nice lenses and considering if z8 is worth extra 1750$ ???
If you plan on doing more video then I'd get the Z8.
Please note, you will probably also want to replace your lenses in the long term, which will entail a significant price tag.
The sensor is also important, the D810, for example, did not give me pleasant colors.
For example, I would dare to look at a D780.
My 'best' camera that gives the most pleasant colors is the D200, at the expense of megapixels and ease of use.
I shoot Nikon d500, d810, d850. I actually enjoy more the lighter d500 with 16-80 DX zoom and a few 50, 85 full frame lenses.
Totally agree.
@@WimBals I have a wedding in a few weeks where I might use my 2 d500’s with a 16-80 f2.8-4 VR DX, a 35, 50, 85, and a macro for ring shots.
Great video
Thanks!
This is another great video. Thank you, Wim.
Thanks!
Wim, thank you for a very educating video. Subscribed. Regarding the question: in a sense I moved from full frame to crop - I used film cameras which are 35mm. Now I use a Nikon crop camera and it is perfect for my wildlife and travel photography for all reasons you mentioned, especially lenses reach, weight and cost. But for landscape I feel full frame would be much better, though stitching panoramas is a way to overcome crop sensor limitations.
Thanks Konstantin for your input.
Thanks for info enjoy and learning good thing from you
Just a Question?
I am interested for Nikon 300mm f2.8 Lens with VR , Questions is now in this days this is the write purchase just like Becky of bokeh and wild life with convertor
Just looking for opinion does it wise purchase or go with 300mm F4 pf lens with converter for wildlife special bird photography
Thanks for your time
That lens is heavy with 2,59kg.
I have the 300mm f/4 PF and it's great!
However for birding you need more reach.
So I would prefer the 500mm PF or the 200-500mm.
@@WimBals thanks Mr.wim I used 200-500 it’s almost the same but I guess I will go with 300mm pf 4 and add 1.7 converter may be it work good ! But thanks it’s heavy but I was looking for bokhe but I understand how it works .
Is one sensor different from the other as far as noise is concerned? Like is ISO 12800 noisier on crop sensor than FF? or does it not depend on sensor size but depend on the size of the pixel. Lets say if a FF and a crop sensor both had pixels the same size (there'd be less of them on the crop sensor of course) would the noise be the same for any given ISO?
Suppose you have a full frame camera and a crop sensor camera of 24 megapixels each.
The pixels on the full frame will be larger simply due to the physical properties of the sensor. The crop sensor will require smaller pixels to fit the 24Mpx.
That means that the full frame has about 1 stop less noise than the aps-c.
But there ain't no such thing as a free lunch, if you want more depth of field and you have to close the aperture of your FF one stop, you immediately lose your advantage in terms of noise.
@@WimBals Interesting. Does that mean for any given exposure setting on any particular sensor will have less noise if the aperture is wider? I mean does the exposure of 1/60th sec @ f4 have more noise than taking the same picture at 1/30th sec @ f 5.6?
No, not at all, noise is caused by higher ISO values.
You can indeed compensate for stopping down your aperture by using a slower shutter speed, but that is not endless and therein lies the danger of motion blur. That is why you can compensate for this loss of light with higher ISO values, resulting in a greater chance of noise.
Of course you can use software to minimize this noise in post-production of your RAW photo, I use ISO 6400 and up if need to.
The shutter speed - aperture - ISO triangle is covered in detail in my 'Learn photography - camera basics' video here on my channel.
@@WimBals Gotcha. Such good insights Wim Thankyou! This tech does confuse me from time to time