This is another reason why I love john branch so much. He simplifies everything. It was after watching his videos I became convinced that I could shoot wedding photography professionally. He just inspires you without trying to. God bless you man!
I use a Canon 2000D APS-C as I am just learning. As long as you can shoot what you need and provide quality images to a client it does not matter what you use. Your Portfolio will speak for itself as to how good a Photographer you are!
I find sensor size to be a preference more than anything. Yes, full frame is better than crop for some things (shooting wide is a lot easier with full frame for example), but there are lots of scenarios where it's either a wash either way, or crop is better. I tend to have both and use each for the things they're best at.
I personally think that if you *want* to shoot crop sensor, go with Fuji. Their range basically specialises in CS, and they’re really good at it - the best imo. Instead of why crop sensors are “better”, I’d say the “advantages” of shooting crop sensor. I’ve just upgraded from crop to full because the differences in DOF, low light, ISO sensitivity, and true focal length are things that matter to *me*. Gotta know what you need for your own work
Professionals don’t need to compare camera sensor sizes, they need to compare their ledgers. That’s how you tell the true professionals from the amateurs
I dont care how much money a person makes, a full frame sensor has better dynamic range and doesnt look like a cell phone pic like crop sensors tend to look. Sure, you can take professional images with good lighting and good lenses with crop sensor cameras, but full frame is just going to yield a more aesthetic image all things being equal.
@@jovianr9498 it’s a fact. I’ve shot with crop sensors, they just don’t have the same dynamic range, and they lack the resolution of modern full frames.
Sensor size doesn't matter that much to me, but autofocus is my biggest concern. I was glad to move over from the XT4 to the XH2 with better processor. The XT4 was great, but when the opportunity came, I couldn't pass it up.
If AF is your concern you should still use Canon or Sony or even Nikon. I would love to say better about my Fuji XH2, but out of this 4 she still got the worsed AF. By far.
using the xt-3 and comming from sony FF, never had a real issue with AF on Fuji, yeah not 100% is spot on, and not as "closed eyes and not matter what I do everything is always in focus like Sony" . But good enough
If autofocus is your biggest concern then switch to Sony ASAP. Went from the XT4 to the Sony A7iii and the autofocus is godlike. It has changed the way I shoot because now I only need to focus on composition since the eye autofocus will get the eye every time.
Low light performance is the big one for me. FF just performs better during the party and late hours when the sun has set. And even if the couple might not care about "the best possible gear" - I do, and I love my hobby enough to invest in the best that I can afford.
I switched from Canon R system an a plethora of R glass to the X-H2 exactly for the weight and price. I was able to match all my lenses with equivalent lenses. The quality of my work didn't change. Now I can cary more gear if I need to.
Just a heads up, ever since Fuji started putting IBIS in their cameras, their dimensions and weight have ballooned. The Sony A7c is smaller and lighter than the Fuji XT5. Crop sensor cameras don't have the size/weight advantage they used to have 5 or so years ago.
@@jbivphotographyExactly why I went to Fuji crop. But when I wanted to upgrade to their 40MP sensor, I checked what lenses Fuji’s recommends to take advantage of that sensor. Whoops. The zooms are, with one exception, fast but heavier than fixed 4.0 great offerings by Canon and Nikon. I added up the weight of an XH with Fuji zoom lenses that able to resolve 40MP and the combined weight is heavier or comparable to an R5 or Nikon Z7 ll with 24-105 or 70-200 4.0 L or S top quality options. Same with wide angle zooms. Fuji is NOT lighter and the larger lenses actually balance better on the full frame options. As a landscape photographer, I’m shootings f 7-11 so faster, so a 2.8 lens is no advantage. I don’t understand Fuji’s logic. If they don’t expand their lens offerings, they’ve lost the biggest benefit of a high resolution crop sensor.
Hello. Thank you very much for your contribution. I am a social events photographer and I use two Nikon D7200 bodies. I bought them in the second hand market with very few shots. I am very satisfied with the cost-benefit ratio and I also have two memory slots! I prefer to invest my money in lenses and lighting equipment.
John, you are spot on. I began with a good quality crop sensor camera and was happy with the results. But I dreamed of full frame. Finally I sprang for a full frame camera and immediately began making comparison shots. Guess what? There was almost no difference between the two in terms of image quality. I do mostly landscape and travel photography and camera weight is also a factor. So I've decided to stick with the brand of crop sensor camera and emphasize the features that are most important to me as well as best quality glass. I am totally happy and don't imagine going any further into full frame any time soon. I agree with you about dual card slots. Another feature that is important to me, since I photograph all over the place, is GPS. Why do so few cameras have built-in GPS? Thank you for another great video.
Just a heads up, ever since Fuji started putting IBIS in their cameras, their dimensions and weight have ballooned. The Sony A7c is smaller and lighter than the Fuji XT5. Crop sensor cameras don't have the size/weight advantage they used to have 5 or so years ago.
Fully agree with you John (as always). Too shallow a depth of field can actually look awful if the camera is in the wrong photographer's hands and it is far more important to get shots perfectly in focus as opposed to the shallowest DoF possible. I've been shooting Fujifilm for many years. I tried a Sony A7 III, but to be honest, I wasn't overly impressed. Heavier, more expensive lenses, plus the body had poor ergonomics compared to Fuji. I soon sold the Sony gear on. Yes, I occasionally get an Uncle Bob (or is it Uncle Buck? 😉) at a wedding say "Oh, you're shooting Fuji......" but I just ask for their email address and send them a link to a gallery. Usually shuts them up and keeps them busy, out of my way as the browse the galley on their phone. As for wedding clients, I have yet to find anyone who is interested in what camera I am using. All they care about is the quality of the end product!
I had the direct opposite experience, lol. Been shooting Fuji for 10 years. Bought an A7iii on a whim and fell in love. The battery life is 2-3x longer than the Fuji, the photos are insanely sharp and the weight is negligible (the weight difference between the XT-4 and Sony A7iii is 50g). The ergonomics are much better because I can change all the settings with my right hand without taking my eye off the viewfinder compared to Fuji where you have to use your left hand to adjust ISO and aperture on the lens and take your hand off the shutter to adjust SS. It's faster. Glad you're enjoying the Fuji, though!
@@YaYousef5 Total weight is what matters and the size and weight of the lenses is very significant on Sony compared with Fuji. As for battery life, I simply use a battery pack in my pocket powering my main Fuji camera. 20,000mAh at my disposal, so internal battery capacity is absolutely irrelevant as far as I am concerned. As far as using both hands is concerned. I was brought up on film, so I actually appreciate that. Fuji ergonomics in my view are way superior to Sony and don't get me started on the Sony menus. 🙄
@@MrGohunter Oh yeah! Body + lens weight. I've compared the Fuji Xt4 with primes vs Sony A7iii with primes and the difference to me is negligible! I love the Sony G lenses like the 24 f/2.8 which rivals crop sensor lens size+weight. That's awesome you have a batter pack! I like how with the Sony A7iii and A7c you can take around 1200 shots on one battery or 2:30 of 4k video recording. It's really nice compared to my previous XT4 dying at 600 shots or 1:30 of 4k recording. Ergonomics: It's faster just to control everything with your right hand and without needing to take your eye off the viewfinder. It's cool if you prefer the old school film style but it's objectively slower. Each person has their own preference. Sony menus took a couple days to get used to. Similar to the Fuji Q button, I use the Fn button 99.9% of the time to change settings when on location.
@@YaYousef5 My back and neck certainly didn't say that the difference was negligible, and as I said, I MUCH prefer the Fuji ergonomics. Everyone to their own.
I just got into photography and my first camera that I brought with my own money was the fujifilm xs10 and I absolutely love it! I bought the camera with the intent of investing myself to be professional and have been photographing my company’s events and personal stuff. The fujifilm colours is just so wonderful to work with and honestly saves me time from editing. The ergonomics is right for me and there’s an abundance of tips and resources from the community. My bosses and colleagues are happy with the pics I took, and I see myself getting the XH2S in the future. It’s all about working WITH your camera and I’m glad I took the time to use it to hone my skills.
John, I'm so glad someone respected in the community and with a strong reach and platform is saying all this. Especially the backup recording/dual SD slot. To me that is absolutely the most important part of any camera for professional use. Without doubt. Also, low light Vs bad light. Goddamn. So right. I guess you're preaching to the choir with me, but hopefully people get to noticing the points you make.
I just wish people looked at cameras a little more objectively rather than blindly being like “full frame is better”. How bout you learn to use your camera to capture the best you can. Ya know. That goes MILES farther than sensor size.
I have several full frame cameras and they are great but I usually reach for my X-T5 and am always pleased with the results. When choosing which camera to use, I don't consider the sensor size but rather the features of the camera.
I love my xT3. I havent shot anything but crop. Came from. Canon 80D. I will say I used a EOS R with the 85 RF once and it was great until I saw the prices. Gave up on staying with Canon after that and jumped into Fuji. One of my favorite parts of crop is having the crop factor.
I shoot with both crop and FF, and for events, travel, street, food, product photography, etc. APS-C is just more practical. I use FF for astrophotography and concerts, and some portraiture, where clients want extra bokeh. -But even then, I seldom shoot shallower than f/1.8 -because of faces needing to be in focus. As for noise, the current generation of Fuji sensors is pretty close to parity with FF now.
Went from Canon 5DmkII to a Sony a6600 to a Fuji XT5. All great tools, the XT5 was my first camera with dual card slots, a must have for me as a working photographer.
Thank you for this. Happily making a living with crop sensor cameras for many years. Clients are always happy and they don't even know why (and you're right, they just don't care; they just want results).
I use an a6400 and an a6100 and I know fujis are better in the crop sensor space but these are so affordable and using these two cameras with battery grips to help the size; honestly they are great to shoot with.🎉
Brilliant assessment. I've been shooting with my a6600 since it came out and a 6000 before that. I compare my shots to my cousin that is out with me the same day with his a7iii and after it's all said and done even he admits he can't tell which shots are"better"
Yep. At the end of the day a camera is a camera and if you're getting good shots with it that's all that matters. I hate that everyone has to argue the whole FF verses APS-C. I wish folks would just take their pictures and be happy with it.
I know of a pro photographer who has travelled the world, doing lifestyle shoots and foot for top publications. Condé Nast type stuff, top glossy publications. Made a good living. He also writes magazine articles now. His gear. 2 x Canon 5D MK II (or maybe III?) and 3 x Fuji X-Pro 1s. Multiple bodies for redundancy / failure. These days as he has more or less retired he also uses his iPhone. Personally I left Canon because they price their gear way beyond my means. I'm not a pro obviously. I think it is worth emphasising the lens range available for Fuji. Sigma and Tamron very good. And Viltrox, their 75mm f1.2 a/f is a bit slow, though firmware has already improved it. Yet it is razor sharp and almost totally free of C/A. In the UK £440. I use it on the 40 MP X-T5.
I left Nikon for Fuji because the nikon system was really designed around full frame and aps-c always seemed to play second fiddle. It felt like their aps-c line really only exists to get you started and upsell to a full frame camera later. All the good stuff was full frame. I’m much happier with Fuji.
I shoot with Nikon D500 which is a crop sensor camera. It is a pro-level system with arguably the fastest autofocus between here and the next galaxy. The image quality is excellent. This has been Nikon’s flagship APS-C camera since it’s into in 2016. Sadly, Nikon has stopped producing DSLRs and has gone exclusively to mirrorless but these are still available and will be for a long while.
John, this is a GREAT topic and I'm glad you made this video. Here's my initial take for anyone considering themselves a photographer, shoot the kit your pockets can afford. Now that that's out of the way. Like you, I've shot a bit of everything. I've shot both LUMIX and Olympus MFT, professionally, I've shot Canon EOS crop sensor, professionally, the LUMIX S5 FF, and Leica M240 FF. Of all the camera systems I've shot however the Fujifilm camera system has been my favourite in all scenarios. The Fujifilm X-Pro3 is my favourite camera of all time and it has always been my go-to camera along with my X-T3. Unfortunately, my X-Pro3 has finally bit the bullet when it comes to the LCD and the subscreen so it's in for repairs but I'm keeping the camera as my everyday carry. I use my X-T3 exclusively for portrait and studio work and it has never failed me. Don't get me wrong, I like FF images but not enough to say, wow it's significantly better than my X-Trans IV cameras. And the real test, in my opinion, for any photo is what it looks like in PRINT! I've printed MFT, X-Trans IV, and FF images, and not one person I ever showed those photos to could tell the difference. The amount of light you have available to you is everything when creating a photo. With enough light a MFT camera can provide spectacular images and so can Fujifilm APC-S.
Great video. Refreshing to hear your perspective. I gave you a hard time some time ago for clapping at us in a video when you were emphasizing a point. So I have to compliment you when you knock it out of the park. Didn't know you shot crop sensor. Your pictures are great. I think you're right--no one can tell the difference.
A really helpful video, thank you. Over the past few days I’ve been weighing up the cost of full frame compared to the low light benefits (I’m not able to use artificial lights because of my visual impairment). It isn’t worth it at the moment, particularly as my work has become more video centric. I will ‘upgrade’ to full frame down the line, when I’m doing more on location work, but that’ll be partly for the dual card slots in addition to the low light benefits. For now, while it would be massively inconvenient, the majority of my work can be re-done if a card fails before I’ve backed up files.
As soon as the xh2 was announced and I got to play with it at the shop I used to work at it had been on my mind for months since I already used Fuji for my street work. Switched from Sony A7iv to it and haven’t looked back. (For reference I shoot mostly fashion and beauty in studio and also do photojournalism).
Completely agree with you! There are still people who think that APSC is amateur and full frame is professional. Absurd! In 2023, with a social network like CZcams full of videos like yours that explain very well the irrelevance of the sensor on the final result, still having "professionals" making these speeches is ridiculous
@@jbivphotography Perhaps the same people who think that APSC is amateurish go to see the exhibitions of the great photographers of history forgetting that those great photographers, many times, had cameras held up with scotch tape and that today they themselves would define as amateurs. If the argument: "bigger equals better" really applied, then medium format like Fuji's GFX would win hands down over full frame. (Well maybe that's true 🤣)
hey hey hey... why you gotta bash my fav camera 😄😄😄, like you said If I'm buying something wide, I'm shooting wide. I did start on crop and moved to full frame but I learned a lot with the crop sensor. Will I go back to crop... I don't know tbh. Great video as always. Like I always say, even if we use different camera system, I still learn a lot from you and thank you for all the improvements you help me accomplished. Yes, as long as I capture the moment and deliver great pics the clients don't care. I can't stand when other photographers are saying a gear isn't good enough.
I love my Fuji. It's what started my career in the portrait and wedding field. From my XT100 to my XS10. I loved them. However when I switched to automotive photography, my true passion. They started working more against me. Things I adored when shooting weddings were becoming annoying when trying to do clean automotive photos since I would have to render them in DxO for the demosiacing and on a M1 Mac, that process slows me down big time.. So that is when I jumped ship to the Sony A7IV. I love it. Do I miss my Fuji, of course but I love my Sony now. I'm thinking about picking up a X10 for a daily camera just to get back into Fuji. It depends on what you want and how you want to achieve it. Plus I wanted to get my foot in with video and full color grading and I've been enjoying myself on the Sony side. But I do agree with your points. If I never found myself to do automotive. I would still be on my Fuji with the kit 18-55 (best kit lens ever) and my viltrox primes.
I shot Canon APS-C DSLR cameras from 2007 until 2021 when a 90D failed on me. Couldn't accept the fact that I didn't have a proper camera and found a great deal on a second hand Fuji xs10 with only 300 shots, not knowing anything about Fuji the price was so good I've jumped right in, but holy balls I'm blown away even to this day how capable that sensor is and the cheap Viltrox lens options f1.2 and f1.8 quality glass available for almost nothing. even shot a birthday anniversary recently indoors with no flash iso 3000 and didn't need any noise reduction in post nor color correction, just minor exposure corrections.
I get your point. I loved photographing with olympus. It really makes fun and I loved shooting with crop. If I get more videography contract, full frame is there just the better choice for me but i would also do a photography job with a crop why not 🙂
You could have mentioned, that there is an advantage with crop sensor if you should groups: you can bring more light in with the same depth of field compared to full frame! Easier to get everyone in focus in „low light“ 👍🏼
That's not true. If you stop down the aperture on the full-frame sensor to have the same DoF as with the APS-C sensor, the better ISO performance of the ff sensor compensates that. There is no higher DoF advantage of APS-C sensors.
@@fabianstenger8676 Yes, but that's still not an advantage of the APS-C sensor. It's irrelevant, because stopped down to f1.8 on FF you have the same DoF and same (or similar) lowlight behaviour than f1.2 on APS-C. So you have to compare f1.8 with f1.2. The advantage of the FF sensor is, that you still can go down to f1.2 (in this example) and even have smaller DoF and more light if you want to. So it's not an advantage of the APS-C sensor, you are simply more limited and thus it's a disadvantage.
The reason I shoot full frame today is because of af, not because of sensor size, none of my clients care. I sometimes shoot fast running cats and dogs and they need pretty much the best af. I love Fuji and shot Fuji for many years. When Fuji catches ut with A9ii level af (no, the XH2S isn't there yet, maybe the XH3S?) then I'm gonna get a Fuji system again!
Thanks for sharing! See these are the reasons to shoot FF. My biggest pet peeve is when people teach how to start photography and the first thing they say is "get a FF to be professional". But no actual objective reasoning based on what you're going to be shooting.
@@jbivphotography I would say that sensor size is the last thing people should care about! Like you said, the clients don't care or know what sensor size even is, they want you to do your job and capture their emotions! IMO there is more pros than cons to the Fuji system these days (as long as you don't need the fastest af). As I sais, when they catch up with Sony and Canon I will get a Fuji system again because I love the handling, the colours and the size! I shot a whole political campaigne with an aps-c system a couple of years ago and it was sooo easy to get in everywhere because it was so small and no one cared about my cameras.
The Nikon D500, Nikon’s flagship crop sensor, focuses so fast that you would often think it did t do anything. At all. Practically instantaneous. I have picked my D500 on a spit of the moment, pointed and nailed shots of fast moving animals and objects in an instant. Fastest focus DSLR on Earth and at least several other planets and solar systems! Yes, I’m aware there are other blazingly quick autofocus but quite honestly it’s pretty hard to tell the difference between .05 seconds and .1 seconds.
On point. I switched FROM full frame to APS-C (Fuji). Had a Nikon D750. Amazing camera but I have gotten the same results with APS-C and DOF is overrated. Blowing every background out is a niche thing. I’d rather have some context of the background. Otherwise it’s just a person with nothing behind them. Not the most attractive way to show people. The most extreme of this is a result from Nikon 200mm F2. It’s just too much. It does make a 3D effect, but after a couple pictures it starts to look like a gimmick. I can get great blur without the background disappearing by using APS-C wide open like John said. I use two old Fuji X-T1 bodies after trading a Nikon D750 on them. I got two pro bodies, still cranking out great photos in 2023 with them (from 2014), and 16MP is plenty. I miss nothing from the Nikon but I appreciate accurate colors from Fuji. My D750 made ugly blues and greens that I always had to fix in post. Fuji….gets it right the first time.
Can't be bothered with FF either. Now, I don't have to put bread on the table with my photography, but I deeply appreciate that Ricoh/Pentax has been taking APS-C seriously instead of treating it as a mere stepping stone to the FF offerings. With APS-C at K-3 Mark III level, I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything at all - and I get to enjoy photography without having to lug around tons of gear or having to put up with the limitations of MFT. Other people's mileage may vary - shoot whatever gets you the images you're after.
Agree, I do events with my pair of Sony A6000s, one with a Sigma 28mm f1.4 y and the other one with a Samyang 85mm f1.4. Never had a client asking for full frame.
Exactly. Honestly the only reason I upgraded to the X-T5 is so I could make content on the newer cameras. I loved my X-T3s and would have stayed on them.
I've had full frame shooters ask how I get low light results (without even knowing that I'm using a crop sensor). Yes, there is a low light advantage with full frame, but it's not a radical difference. You can overcome a lot with knowledge and experience (inc when and how to add light) I've had comments about the X-H2 in a SmallRig cage (mostly because I'm clumsy and I like the extra grip on the pinky finger) along the lines "wow that looks like a pro setup. Full frame?" And yes, clients have no idea what size sensor you're shooting with.
The difference by sensor area is about one stop of light, that is what the whole endless discussion boils down to. Current aps-c sensors have better noise performance than full frame sensors from only a few sensor generations ago, and those already took great photos. It all works fine.
I am in Namibia, a country in southern Africa and gear is at least 40% more expensive. I shoot with a Nikon d750, I am working on getting a back up body. I would to go mirrorless but its would cost me more to get a second Xt3 than getting another secondhand Nikon D750. Then i can use my Nikon lenses. When i do final get enough money i will switch to fuji, I like the size and the lower relative cost of premium lenses. Right now all dslr gear here is much more affordable.
To add to Reason 2: If you shoot Fuji wide open (lets say with f/1.4 lenses) you'd need to go f/2 to achive the same DoF, which means in order to get the same exposure you need to bump the ISO (if Shutter speed is the same) and poof - there goes your low light advantage. And dont come around the corner with "yeah! but i can go 1.4 on FF too!" - you're documenting a wedding. This includes the church, the venue the people around etc, so you find yourself stopping down all the time to include these elements. Just my 2 cents.
Depends on the person if they want better image quality low light etc and the other advantages full frame bring over crop cameras no matter how subtle you feel those differences between full frame and crop are. That cost difference between full frame and crop is worth it to that person for those advantages. And if it doesn’t matter as much the cost savings crop cameras and gear bring can be worth it to the next person.. what’s most important is can you take great photos regardless of what you shoot. To me the cost difference is worth the difference in the results and use in the field but might not be to others who enjoy crop cameras and that’s perfectly fine..
Well not specific to the crop sensor conversation, you are speaking my business philosophy language. Get what you need to get the job done, spend only what you need to get the job done. I shoot on Nikon Z5's and it's funny when I hear some CZcamsrs say - oh the Sony autofocus is so much better. True - it's fast - I used an A7iv for the last year, but I am back on the Z5. Because in the end I don't lose any shots, I love the colors and I am fully kitted out for the price of one A7iv. BTW I will stay on Sony for video..:) But that is where I went APSC with the FX30 again down grading from my A7S3 and again I am not losing shots.
I had this exact conversation with MYSELF. As I am self taught, I learnt the hard way. I started my filming career after following my uncle who started in the early 90s. the 1st camera I had that i used for weddings and charging people was a Sony digital 8 camcorder, the DCR-TRV356 or something like that lol. in the early 2000s I got my 1sr expensive dedicated video camera. It was the worlds 1st HD video camera the sony HDR FX1E. It filmed on mini dv cassettes. I also had a passion for photography. I kept getting asked if i done photography along side filming weddings. So I got my 1st prp DSLR (I say pro as i used it to make money) it was the Canon 20D I had a canon 18-55mm EFS F3.5 - F5.6 & Sigma 70-200mm F2.8. It took a good few years to learn how to use it properly. I started with learning to manage people & composition before I understood F stop and getting off auto. Then the Canon 60D with the 18-135mm f3.5 - f5.6. Man I felt the dogs boll%oks shooting weddings using the Sony hdr fx1e & canon 60d. I had multiple jobs when we had kids, shooting film & pictures was never full time, I only worked from recommendations and word of mouth. Fast forward years later, after having kids and other stuff life throws at us. I am a lot more invested in the camera world. I now use both FULL FRAME & APS-C cameras. I use Sony aps-c & canon full frame with the R series and RF Lenses. I also learnt buying the latest camera wasn't the most cost effective way to do it lol. I figured that it makes sense to invest in better quality lenses than the latest camera with all the features you need, plus a host of stuff you don't use but it sounds good when reading spec sheet. As buying say a L RF lens will last 4 times longer than a new camera every few years. So you only need to buy new cameras with body only, as investment in the lens pays off greatly. I use Sony APS-C as i like the small size and the quality video they produce. I love my Sony ZVE-10, i've filmed many weddings and other work using it. It might look like an amateur camera if it's on it's own. However once it's got the cage on with a monitor, mic set up and a decent bit of glass (lens) it blows things out the water, for a cheap camera it is incredible and produces incredible content. It also adds to the same issue as FULL FRAME vs APS-C as it does using 10bit vs 8bit video. 10bit set up costs a lot more than an 8bit. But when shooting a high quality wedding film the couple can't tell. They look at the film you made and see the HAPPY WEDDING DAY surrounded by the people they love most.
I had a Canon 750D for years and got fantastic photos. Noisy beast in low light though. After years shooting and watching youtube and online forums I just picked up a Canon 6D as I want very particular things out of it that I know the sensor can handle, and I already have a stack of EF glass. Picking up a second 6D body to break into professional work but I get the feeling I'll be buying into Sony or Fujifilm in a couple of years
My first wedding with fujifilm was a long time ago.. However, it was a "Hollywood" people wedding (groom was the son of an actor & the bride was the niece of another actor).. There were a lot of people at the wedding who worked in TV & movie industry.. And nobody cared if I was using a crop sensor or a full frame!!!! The couple loved their photos and 2 years later, I photographed the wedding of the bride's sister (still with my fuji) Right now, I use 2 xh1, but plan to either get a xt5 or xh2 (I only use 3 prime lenses.lol)
AMEN! i needed to hear this also. i also shoot weddings and events and i come across photographers talking about gear and etc.. i stop and say, if my client says WOW!!! that's all that matters to me and get my next referral. everything is seen on a phone nowadays and laptop.. so everything will look amazing. My client is not going to zoom in or look for pixels or soft edges and so on. they will look at photos onces and then again after 15 years, by then their eye sighjt will be poor lol!!! so my photos will still look amazing. JUST SHOOT AND HAVE FUN PEOPLE!..if you like the photo, that's all that matters. Everyone on youtube is a photo judger nowadays,, no one told them NO ONE CARES!!! GO JOHN! YOU SAID IT BEST
I love Fujifilm. Great cameras, but for my wrestling photography I use full frame as I get clearer pictures when compared to APSC with the same settings (f1.4, ISO 6400, and SS 1/500-1/1000)
If your lens is crappy you are going to get crappy photos. So rather than making a body choice based on the sensor, it should be based on the lens you choose.
As an APS-C shooter i enjoy every second of this video with a big smile on my face. I also agree with the fact that APS-C is defitnately not that bad at all in many situations where you have good daylight or a studio where you can modify the light exactely the way you want. I'm a happy owner of the brandnew Sony A6700 since August. And the photography results that i get with this camera are amazing. Also because of the backside illuminated sensor and AI autofocus borrowed from the A7RV. When comparing this to my oldskool A6000. I believe that the APS-C camera's wich came out this year also from Canon and Fujifilm are the start of an entire new generation of more advanced APS-C camera's. Who are getting more close to their by many considered "professional only" full frame siblings.
The reason why dual card slots are important made me choose the Nikon D7200 over the newer D7500. For any kind of photography, we DO need the best. But 'the best' is not defined by the highest price tag. It's defined by our preferences and style. In a search I have purchased a Tokina AT-X Pro 28-80 and man is this a wonderful lens. It's not 'the best' technically speaking, but the way my results look, are so inspiring to me and that gives confidence, which is important while taking photo's. Besides that... I bought this lens for next to nothing. More pleasure. I somehow disagree with the statement that clients don't know anything about photography, because some do know more than most amateur photographers (with expensive gear). But indeed they don't care what gear you use. I will always consider the client expects the best I can and my confidence during the shoot is key to the best results I can deliver. It surely is not about the price tag or the sensor size, it's about knowing your gear through and through. Only then you can decide what a different sensor or lens will do. About low light I can say that the greatest bs is blown into the world. I have purchased the Nikon D600 because of it's remarkable low light performance and when I got an Olympus OM-D E-M10IIIs for my daughter, I was curious how that would compare at ISO 3200 in the exact same circumstances... They are only visible when pixel peeping and after a post in DxO PhotoLab, the difference is nihil. Photographing with that tiny camera is a joy because of the impressive results the Zuiko optics deliver. (Especially the 12-40 1:2.8). Under normal circumstances (printing up to 30 cm in an album and posting them on Flickr), it's not possible to see any difference. Not even at ISO 6400 most of the time.
Oh yeah totally. I'll admit the title is a little click bait. The main point I'm trying to get across to photographers is removing this stigma that APS-C is immediately not as profession as FF
In your opinion changing a 6D mark II for an 80D is a good choice or not ? I shoot nature, landscapes, flowers, forests. And EFS lenses are cheap but good.
Crop Sensors definitely have some advantages over full frame but there are not better per say. There are evolving to compete with full frame on qualities and other professional features.
I agree with you 100% - although I am not a professional, I am a hobbiest, and I do not see value of a Full Frame over my APS-C especially since I am generating ZERO money off of it, when traveling (lighter weight of APS-C pays huge dividends here) however, at 1/4th the cost, I absolutely love the results I get in a APS-C universe. Now - I made the mistake of going Nikon for this shortly after the Z50 was released and Nikon has ignored this format badly, but I’d rather stick with it than shell out more money for something I do not need.
The problem comes when those said crop camera are more expensive than the full frame completion. I stayed with Fuji purely because it’s a chore to change systems and financial lose I also like the colours and gets me there quicker when editing. But as the prices keep creeping up tbh it harder to justify body wise. But full frame native glass is proper expensive like canons rf mount. So isn’t that clear cut I guess
Thank You!!! I can’t tell you all the times I’ve seen people looking for second shooters, but they insist that you “must have a full frame”. Now the new thing is, “must have mirrorless” How about you know how to use your camera and you have excellent glass. In my opinion, they are just regurgitating things they’ve heard, but they have no real idea on how gear works.
Hello I just can't decide which to buy between this 2 choices since they are both priced similar at $1500 a. Sony ZV-e10 with Sigma 16mm 1.4 & Sigma 56mm 1.4 b. Canon eos RP with Canon Rf 16mm 2.8 & Canon Rf 50mm 1.8 what would be your choice? at first I was sure with Canon cause its full frame but now I am slowly getting attracted with the Sony option because of that sigma lenses. PS. Gonna use them for event photogaphy/video.
Comes down to use case. I shot only Fuji for years, but there were certain things that started to become a hindrance, so I added Nikon FF cameras to my lineup. In addition to my studio work, I do shoot concerts and events where the poor low light capabilities of the Fuji system became apparent. And when I bought my z7ii, Fuji still hadn't come out with a high res camera, that I wanted for my studio and portrait work. That having been said, if I'm going to have fun with a system, be creative, travel, or just enjoy photography, my XT-3 is what I reach for. But for my professional work, my z6ii and z7ii mean less work for me on the back end, and an easier shooting experience on the front end. Of course, YMMV. Cheers
I always say real usability will always win in conversations. I use my Fuji XT4 for my entire business and nobody EVER asks me if I shoot full frame. My work with national product brands, food, weddings, portraits even the ballet and sports…not one single client has ever asked about bokeh…they pay for sharp beautiful imagery. I accomplish that all day every day with Fuji. 🤘😎🤘
Well said! 💯 Not to mention, shooting with a crop sensor allows you to have a lightweight and compact setup, which is a game changer for all day events! 💪
I agree I started on canon 80d and eventually moved to full frame mirrorless. But the fuji cameras have always had my attention. I just don’t want to convert over 😢
So who's team APS-C??
I'm for sure. I shoot with X-T4 and X-T20, love them both.
I am, happy owner of a Sony A6700
HE SAID IT...HE SAID THE THING..... lol.
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This is another reason why I love john branch so much. He simplifies everything. It was after watching his videos I became convinced that I could shoot wedding photography professionally. He just inspires you without trying to. God bless you man!
I laughed way too hard at the "why are all my photos in portrait mode" line. 😂😂
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I’m a Fuji X wedding photographer myself and you are absolutely right.
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May I know your Gears please
I use a Canon 2000D APS-C as I am just learning. As long as you can shoot what you need and provide quality images to a client it does not matter what you use. Your Portfolio will speak for itself as to how good a Photographer you are!
I find sensor size to be a preference more than anything. Yes, full frame is better than crop for some things (shooting wide is a lot easier with full frame for example), but there are lots of scenarios where it's either a wash either way, or crop is better. I tend to have both and use each for the things they're best at.
Mr. Branch, Thank You for giving a whole bunch of photographers “permission” to use crop sensors in a professional context! Love your videos.
I personally think that if you *want* to shoot crop sensor, go with Fuji. Their range basically specialises in CS, and they’re really good at it - the best imo. Instead of why crop sensors are “better”, I’d say the “advantages” of shooting crop sensor.
I’ve just upgraded from crop to full because the differences in DOF, low light, ISO sensitivity, and true focal length are things that matter to *me*. Gotta know what you need for your own work
Or hobby
I switched from Canon to fuji this year and I’m so much more fun with photography. And everything so much more affordable.
Professionals don’t need to compare camera sensor sizes, they need to compare their ledgers. That’s how you tell the true professionals from the amateurs
I dont care how much money a person makes, a full frame sensor has better dynamic range and doesnt look like a cell phone pic like crop sensors tend to look. Sure, you can take professional images with good lighting and good lenses with crop sensor cameras, but full frame is just going to yield a more aesthetic image all things being equal.
@@CryoftheProphet Troll.
@@jovianr9498 it’s a fact. I’ve shot with crop sensors, they just don’t have the same dynamic range, and they lack the resolution of modern full frames.
@@CryoftheProphetCZcams needs a laugh react.
@@stormfalconstudios and pros aren’t shooting with apsc for a reason.
Facts are facts.
Sensor size doesn't matter that much to me, but autofocus is my biggest concern. I was glad to move over from the XT4 to the XH2 with better processor. The XT4 was great, but when the opportunity came, I couldn't pass it up.
If AF is your concern you should still use Canon or Sony or even Nikon. I would love to say better about my Fuji XH2, but out of this 4 she still got the worsed AF. By far.
using the xt-3 and comming from sony FF, never had a real issue with AF on Fuji, yeah not 100% is spot on, and not as "closed eyes and not matter what I do everything is always in focus like Sony" . But good enough
If autofocus is your biggest concern then switch to Sony ASAP. Went from the XT4 to the Sony A7iii and the autofocus is godlike. It has changed the way I shoot because now I only need to focus on composition since the eye autofocus will get the eye every time.
Traded my A7iii for a XT5 THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO MADE ME CONFIDENT IN MY TRADE
Tell us more about your experience, im in a dilema, A7iii or X-t4, i need to make a decision. Im a Hybrid shooter, Photo/video.
Low light performance is the big one for me. FF just performs better during the party and late hours when the sun has set. And even if the couple might not care about "the best possible gear" - I do, and I love my hobby enough to invest in the best that I can afford.
Weight and price was my deciding factor when I picked crop sensor. And the older you get, the more important weight is.
Exactly. That’s initially why I went with Fujifilm and crop. While I’m still fairly young I’m not 20 anymore. Those bigger cameras are heavy!
I switched from Canon R system an a plethora of R glass to the X-H2 exactly for the weight and price. I was able to match all my lenses with equivalent lenses. The quality of my work didn't change. Now I can cary more gear if I need to.
Or the more you travel
Just a heads up, ever since Fuji started putting IBIS in their cameras, their dimensions and weight have ballooned. The Sony A7c is smaller and lighter than the Fuji XT5. Crop sensor cameras don't have the size/weight advantage they used to have 5 or so years ago.
@@jbivphotographyExactly why I went to Fuji crop. But when I wanted to upgrade to their 40MP sensor, I checked what lenses Fuji’s recommends to take advantage of that sensor. Whoops. The zooms are, with one exception, fast but heavier than fixed 4.0 great offerings by Canon and Nikon. I added up the weight of an XH with Fuji zoom lenses that able to resolve 40MP and the combined weight is heavier or comparable to an R5 or Nikon Z7 ll with 24-105 or 70-200 4.0 L or S top quality options.
Same with wide angle zooms. Fuji is NOT lighter and the larger lenses actually balance better on the full frame options. As a landscape photographer, I’m shootings f 7-11 so faster, so a 2.8 lens is no advantage.
I don’t understand Fuji’s logic. If they don’t expand their lens offerings, they’ve lost the biggest benefit of a high resolution crop sensor.
Hello. Thank you very much for your contribution. I am a social events photographer and I use two Nikon D7200 bodies. I bought them in the second hand market with very few shots. I am very satisfied with the cost-benefit ratio and I also have two memory slots! I prefer to invest my money in lenses and lighting equipment.
John, you are spot on. I began with a good quality crop sensor camera and was happy with the results. But I dreamed of full frame. Finally I sprang for a full frame camera and immediately began making comparison shots. Guess what? There was almost no difference between the two in terms of image quality. I do mostly landscape and travel photography and camera weight is also a factor. So I've decided to stick with the brand of crop sensor camera and emphasize the features that are most important to me as well as best quality glass. I am totally happy and don't imagine going any further into full frame any time soon.
I agree with you about dual card slots. Another feature that is important to me, since I photograph all over the place, is GPS. Why do so few cameras have built-in GPS?
Thank you for another great video.
Just a heads up, ever since Fuji started putting IBIS in their cameras, their dimensions and weight have ballooned. The Sony A7c is smaller and lighter than the Fuji XT5. Crop sensor cameras don't have the size/weight advantage they used to have 5 or so years ago.
@@YaYousef5 So what? There are small prolevel fujifilm cameras available. Perhaps you should acquaint yourself with the rest of the range.
Fully agree with you John (as always). Too shallow a depth of field can actually look awful if the camera is in the wrong photographer's hands and it is far more important to get shots perfectly in focus as opposed to the shallowest DoF possible. I've been shooting Fujifilm for many years. I tried a Sony A7 III, but to be honest, I wasn't overly impressed. Heavier, more expensive lenses, plus the body had poor ergonomics compared to Fuji. I soon sold the Sony gear on. Yes, I occasionally get an Uncle Bob (or is it Uncle Buck? 😉) at a wedding say "Oh, you're shooting Fuji......" but I just ask for their email address and send them a link to a gallery. Usually shuts them up and keeps them busy, out of my way as the browse the galley on their phone. As for wedding clients, I have yet to find anyone who is interested in what camera I am using. All they care about is the quality of the end product!
Can you also share your gallery link here? We crop-sensor fans are curious. Thank you
I had the direct opposite experience, lol. Been shooting Fuji for 10 years. Bought an A7iii on a whim and fell in love. The battery life is 2-3x longer than the Fuji, the photos are insanely sharp and the weight is negligible (the weight difference between the XT-4 and Sony A7iii is 50g). The ergonomics are much better because I can change all the settings with my right hand without taking my eye off the viewfinder compared to Fuji where you have to use your left hand to adjust ISO and aperture on the lens and take your hand off the shutter to adjust SS. It's faster. Glad you're enjoying the Fuji, though!
@@YaYousef5 Total weight is what matters and the size and weight of the lenses is very significant on Sony compared with Fuji. As for battery life, I simply use a battery pack in my pocket powering my main Fuji camera. 20,000mAh at my disposal, so internal battery capacity is absolutely irrelevant as far as I am concerned. As far as using both hands is concerned. I was brought up on film, so I actually appreciate that. Fuji ergonomics in my view are way superior to Sony and don't get me started on the Sony menus. 🙄
@@MrGohunter Oh yeah! Body + lens weight. I've compared the Fuji Xt4 with primes vs Sony A7iii with primes and the difference to me is negligible! I love the Sony G lenses like the 24 f/2.8 which rivals crop sensor lens size+weight.
That's awesome you have a batter pack! I like how with the Sony A7iii and A7c you can take around 1200 shots on one battery or 2:30 of 4k video recording. It's really nice compared to my previous XT4 dying at 600 shots or 1:30 of 4k recording.
Ergonomics: It's faster just to control everything with your right hand and without needing to take your eye off the viewfinder. It's cool if you prefer the old school film style but it's objectively slower. Each person has their own preference.
Sony menus took a couple days to get used to. Similar to the Fuji Q button, I use the Fn button 99.9% of the time to change settings when on location.
@@YaYousef5 My back and neck certainly didn't say that the difference was negligible, and as I said, I MUCH prefer the Fuji ergonomics. Everyone to their own.
I just got into photography and my first camera that I brought with my own money was the fujifilm xs10 and I absolutely love it!
I bought the camera with the intent of investing myself to be professional and have been photographing my company’s events and personal stuff. The fujifilm colours is just so wonderful to work with and honestly saves me time from editing. The ergonomics is right for me and there’s an abundance of tips and resources from the community.
My bosses and colleagues are happy with the pics I took, and I see myself getting the XH2S in the future. It’s all about working WITH your camera and I’m glad I took the time to use it to hone my skills.
John, I'm so glad someone respected in the community and with a strong reach and platform is saying all this. Especially the backup recording/dual SD slot. To me that is absolutely the most important part of any camera for professional use. Without doubt.
Also, low light Vs bad light. Goddamn. So right.
I guess you're preaching to the choir with me, but hopefully people get to noticing the points you make.
I just wish people looked at cameras a little more objectively rather than blindly being like “full frame is better”. How bout you learn to use your camera to capture the best you can. Ya know. That goes MILES farther than sensor size.
I have several full frame cameras and they are great but I usually reach for my X-T5 and am always pleased with the results. When choosing which camera to use, I don't consider the sensor size but rather the features of the camera.
I shoot weddings on micro 4/3 and still get great results.
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I changed my Nikon fullframe System for Fuji. I am happy with Fuji Equipment.
I love my xT3. I havent shot anything but crop. Came from. Canon 80D. I will say I used a EOS R with the 85 RF once and it was great until I saw the prices. Gave up on staying with Canon after that and jumped into Fuji. One of my favorite parts of crop is having the crop factor.
Quite a Similar story to yours. Which Lenses do you pair your XT3 with?
I shoot with both crop and FF, and for events, travel, street, food, product photography, etc. APS-C is just more practical. I use FF for astrophotography and concerts, and some portraiture, where clients want extra bokeh. -But even then, I seldom shoot shallower than f/1.8 -because of faces needing to be in focus. As for noise, the current generation of Fuji sensors is pretty close to parity with FF now.
Went from Canon 5DmkII to a Sony a6600 to a Fuji XT5. All great tools, the XT5 was my first camera with dual card slots, a must have for me as a working photographer.
I needed to hear this. Thank you
Woww! I love that this isn't clickbait. It's actually a sincere opinion video. Love it!
I try my best not to be click baity. I hate videos like that.
Thank you for this. Happily making a living with crop sensor cameras for many years. Clients are always happy and they don't even know why (and you're right, they just don't care; they just want results).
I got the canon r10 crop sensor ..this camera is amazing !!!!!
funny thing about depth of field is that the most eye gauging photos are usually the super wide shots showing every detail
That's a really good point actually!
Back when I was a semi professional, I only shot crop and the photos turned out great. He’s right no one cares but other photographers.
It’s very true. The results are what matter to the client.
I use an a6400 and an a6100 and I know fujis are better in the crop sensor space but these are so affordable and using these two cameras with battery grips to help the size; honestly they are great to shoot with.🎉
Brilliant assessment. I've been shooting with my a6600 since it came out and a 6000 before that. I compare my shots to my cousin that is out with me the same day with his a7iii and after it's all said and done even he admits he can't tell which shots are"better"
Yep. At the end of the day a camera is a camera and if you're getting good shots with it that's all that matters. I hate that everyone has to argue the whole FF verses APS-C. I wish folks would just take their pictures and be happy with it.
I know of a pro photographer who has travelled the world, doing lifestyle shoots and foot for top publications. Condé Nast type stuff, top glossy publications. Made a good living. He also writes magazine articles now.
His gear. 2 x Canon 5D MK II (or maybe III?) and 3 x Fuji X-Pro 1s. Multiple bodies for redundancy / failure.
These days as he has more or less retired he also uses his iPhone.
Personally I left Canon because they price their gear way beyond my means. I'm not a pro obviously.
I think it is worth emphasising the lens range available for Fuji. Sigma and Tamron very good. And Viltrox, their 75mm f1.2 a/f is a bit slow, though firmware has already improved it. Yet it is razor sharp and almost totally free of C/A. In the UK £440. I use it on the 40 MP X-T5.
I left Nikon for Fuji because the nikon system was really designed around full frame and aps-c always seemed to play second fiddle. It felt like their aps-c line really only exists to get you started and upsell to a full frame camera later. All the good stuff was full frame. I’m much happier with Fuji.
Exactly. I think that's what most companies do. Unless they focus on APS-C then they always make them entry level cameras.
I am in that situation now. Switching from Nikon d7200 to Fuji XS-20. Very excited
I shoot with Nikon D500 which is a crop sensor camera. It is a pro-level system with arguably the fastest autofocus between here and the next galaxy. The image quality is excellent. This has been Nikon’s flagship APS-C camera since it’s into in 2016.
Sadly, Nikon has stopped producing DSLRs and has gone exclusively to mirrorless but these are still available and will be for a long while.
John, this is a GREAT topic and I'm glad you made this video. Here's my initial take for anyone considering themselves a photographer, shoot the kit your pockets can afford. Now that that's out of the way. Like you, I've shot a bit of everything. I've shot both LUMIX and Olympus MFT, professionally, I've shot Canon EOS crop sensor, professionally, the LUMIX S5 FF, and Leica M240 FF. Of all the camera systems I've shot however the Fujifilm camera system has been my favourite in all scenarios.
The Fujifilm X-Pro3 is my favourite camera of all time and it has always been my go-to camera along with my X-T3. Unfortunately, my X-Pro3 has finally bit the bullet when it comes to the LCD and the subscreen so it's in for repairs but I'm keeping the camera as my everyday carry. I use my X-T3 exclusively for portrait and studio work and it has never failed me. Don't get me wrong, I like FF images but not enough to say, wow it's significantly better than my X-Trans IV cameras.
And the real test, in my opinion, for any photo is what it looks like in PRINT! I've printed MFT, X-Trans IV, and FF images, and not one person I ever showed those photos to could tell the difference. The amount of light you have available to you is everything when creating a photo. With enough light a MFT camera can provide spectacular images and so can Fujifilm APC-S.
Great video. Refreshing to hear your perspective. I gave you a hard time some time ago for clapping at us in a video when you were emphasizing a point. So I have to compliment you when you knock it out of the park. Didn't know you shot crop sensor. Your pictures are great. I think you're right--no one can tell the difference.
A really helpful video, thank you. Over the past few days I’ve been weighing up the cost of full frame compared to the low light benefits (I’m not able to use artificial lights because of my visual impairment). It isn’t worth it at the moment, particularly as my work has become more video centric. I will ‘upgrade’ to full frame down the line, when I’m doing more on location work, but that’ll be partly for the dual card slots in addition to the low light benefits. For now, while it would be massively inconvenient, the majority of my work can be re-done if a card fails before I’ve backed up files.
As soon as the xh2 was announced and I got to play with it at the shop I used to work at it had been on my mind for months since I already used Fuji for my street work. Switched from Sony A7iv to it and haven’t looked back. (For reference I shoot mostly fashion and beauty in studio and also do photojournalism).
Good advice. Thanks for sharing. Learning about mirrorless from a casual DSLR user.
Completely agree with you!
There are still people who think that APSC is amateur and full frame is professional. Absurd! In 2023, with a social network like CZcams full of videos like yours that explain very well the irrelevance of the sensor on the final result, still having "professionals" making these speeches is ridiculous
Exactly!
@@jbivphotography Perhaps the same people who think that APSC is amateurish go to see the exhibitions of the great photographers of history forgetting that those great photographers, many times, had cameras held up with scotch tape and that today they themselves would define as amateurs.
If the argument: "bigger equals better" really applied, then medium format like Fuji's GFX would win hands down over full frame. (Well maybe that's true 🤣)
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hey hey hey... why you gotta bash my fav camera 😄😄😄, like you said If I'm buying something wide, I'm shooting wide. I did start on crop and moved to full frame but I learned a lot with the crop sensor. Will I go back to crop... I don't know tbh. Great video as always. Like I always say, even if we use different camera system, I still learn a lot from you and thank you for all the improvements you help me accomplished. Yes, as long as I capture the moment and deliver great pics the clients don't care. I can't stand when other photographers are saying a gear isn't good enough.
I love my Fuji. It's what started my career in the portrait and wedding field. From my XT100 to my XS10. I loved them.
However when I switched to automotive photography, my true passion. They started working more against me. Things I adored when shooting weddings were becoming annoying when trying to do clean automotive photos since I would have to render them in DxO for the demosiacing and on a M1 Mac, that process slows me down big time.. So that is when I jumped ship to the Sony A7IV. I love it. Do I miss my Fuji, of course but I love my Sony now. I'm thinking about picking up a X10 for a daily camera just to get back into Fuji.
It depends on what you want and how you want to achieve it.
Plus I wanted to get my foot in with video and full color grading and I've been enjoying myself on the Sony side.
But I do agree with your points. If I never found myself to do automotive. I would still be on my Fuji with the kit 18-55 (best kit lens ever) and my viltrox primes.
This is an interesting video. Thank you JBIV.
Thanks for watching!
I shot Canon APS-C DSLR cameras from 2007 until 2021 when a 90D failed on me. Couldn't accept the fact that I didn't have a proper camera and found a great deal on a second hand Fuji xs10 with only 300 shots, not knowing anything about Fuji the price was so good I've jumped right in, but holy balls I'm blown away even to this day how capable that sensor is and the cheap Viltrox lens options f1.2 and f1.8 quality glass available for almost nothing. even shot a birthday anniversary recently indoors with no flash iso 3000 and didn't need any noise reduction in post nor color correction, just minor exposure corrections.
I get your point. I loved photographing with olympus. It really makes fun and I loved shooting with crop. If I get more videography contract, full frame is there just the better choice for me but i would also do a photography job with a crop why not 🙂
You could have mentioned, that there is an advantage with crop sensor if you should groups: you can bring more light in with the same depth of field compared to full frame! Easier to get everyone in focus in „low light“ 👍🏼
That's not true. If you stop down the aperture on the full-frame sensor to have the same DoF as with the APS-C sensor, the better ISO performance of the ff sensor compensates that. There is no higher DoF advantage of APS-C sensors.
I adjust my answer: my comment is true in case you use the same aperture on ff and crop. F1.2 on crop vs. 1.2 on FF gives you a broader focus on crop.
@@fabianstenger8676 Yes, but that's still not an advantage of the APS-C sensor. It's irrelevant, because stopped down to f1.8 on FF you have the same DoF and same (or similar) lowlight behaviour than f1.2 on APS-C. So you have to compare f1.8 with f1.2. The advantage of the FF sensor is, that you still can go down to f1.2 (in this example) and even have smaller DoF and more light if you want to. So it's not an advantage of the APS-C sensor, you are simply more limited and thus it's a disadvantage.
What about micro4/3 ? Is that too small even with light ? Thanks
The reason I shoot full frame today is because of af, not because of sensor size, none of my clients care. I sometimes shoot fast running cats and dogs and they need pretty much the best af. I love Fuji and shot Fuji for many years. When Fuji catches ut with A9ii level af (no, the XH2S isn't there yet, maybe the XH3S?) then I'm gonna get a Fuji system again!
Thanks for sharing! See these are the reasons to shoot FF. My biggest pet peeve is when people teach how to start photography and the first thing they say is "get a FF to be professional". But no actual objective reasoning based on what you're going to be shooting.
@@jbivphotography I would say that sensor size is the last thing people should care about! Like you said, the clients don't care or know what sensor size even is, they want you to do your job and capture their emotions! IMO there is more pros than cons to the Fuji system these days (as long as you don't need the fastest af). As I sais, when they catch up with Sony and Canon I will get a Fuji system again because I love the handling, the colours and the size! I shot a whole political campaigne with an aps-c system a couple of years ago and it was sooo easy to get in everywhere because it was so small and no one cared about my cameras.
The Nikon D500, Nikon’s flagship crop sensor, focuses so fast that you would often think it did t do anything. At all. Practically instantaneous.
I have picked my D500 on a spit of the moment, pointed and nailed shots of fast moving animals and objects in an instant. Fastest focus DSLR on Earth and at least several other planets and solar systems!
Yes, I’m aware there are other blazingly quick autofocus but quite honestly it’s pretty hard to tell the difference between .05 seconds and .1 seconds.
I love my apsc sony 6300. Only thing its missing imo is ibis and a fully articulated touch screen.
On point. I switched FROM full frame to APS-C (Fuji). Had a Nikon D750. Amazing camera but I have gotten the same results with APS-C and DOF is overrated. Blowing every background out is a niche thing. I’d rather have some context of the background. Otherwise it’s just a person with nothing behind them. Not the most attractive way to show people. The most extreme of this is a result from Nikon 200mm F2. It’s just too much. It does make a 3D effect, but after a couple pictures it starts to look like a gimmick. I can get great blur without the background disappearing by using APS-C wide open like John said. I use two old Fuji X-T1 bodies after trading a Nikon D750 on them. I got two pro bodies, still cranking out great photos in 2023 with them (from 2014), and 16MP is plenty. I miss nothing from the Nikon but I appreciate accurate colors from Fuji. My D750 made ugly blues and greens that I always had to fix in post. Fuji….gets it right the first time.
I'm glad someone cares about APS-C as so many videos are claiming only FF and M43.
Yep yep. Us APS-C photographers are out here and doing amazing work!
I think you are absolutely right my friend
Can't be bothered with FF either. Now, I don't have to put bread on the table with my photography, but I deeply appreciate that Ricoh/Pentax has been taking APS-C seriously instead of treating it as a mere stepping stone to the FF offerings. With APS-C at K-3 Mark III level, I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything at all - and I get to enjoy photography without having to lug around tons of gear or having to put up with the limitations of MFT. Other people's mileage may vary - shoot whatever gets you the images you're after.
Agree, I do events with my pair of Sony A6000s, one with a Sigma 28mm f1.4 y and the other one with a Samyang 85mm f1.4. Never had a client asking for full frame.
Yep. Totally agree. And I would add, that even my X-T2 and X-T20 are great. I haven't seen the need to upgrade. I often buy used gear too.
Exactly. Honestly the only reason I upgraded to the X-T5 is so I could make content on the newer cameras. I loved my X-T3s and would have stayed on them.
I've had full frame shooters ask how I get low light results (without even knowing that I'm using a crop sensor). Yes, there is a low light advantage with full frame, but it's not a radical difference. You can overcome a lot with knowledge and experience (inc when and how to add light)
I've had comments about the X-H2 in a SmallRig cage (mostly because I'm clumsy and I like the extra grip on the pinky finger) along the lines "wow that looks like a pro setup. Full frame?"
And yes, clients have no idea what size sensor you're shooting with.
The difference by sensor area is about one stop of light, that is what the whole endless discussion boils down to. Current aps-c sensors have better noise performance than full frame sensors from only a few sensor generations ago, and those already took great photos. It all works fine.
Love your opinion and your sense of humor!!!!! THANK YOU
lol. Thank you for watching. I hope you enjoyed the video!
I am in Namibia, a country in southern Africa and gear is at least 40% more expensive. I shoot with a Nikon d750, I am working on getting a back up body. I would to go mirrorless but its would cost me more to get a second Xt3 than getting another secondhand Nikon D750. Then i can use my Nikon lenses. When i do final get enough money i will switch to fuji, I like the size and the lower relative cost of premium lenses. Right now all dslr gear here is much more affordable.
To add to Reason 2: If you shoot Fuji wide open (lets say with f/1.4 lenses) you'd need to go f/2 to achive the same DoF, which means in order to get the same exposure you need to bump the ISO (if Shutter speed is the same) and poof - there goes your low light advantage. And dont come around the corner with "yeah! but i can go 1.4 on FF too!" - you're documenting a wedding. This includes the church, the venue the people around etc, so you find yourself stopping down all the time to include these elements. Just my 2 cents.
Depends on the person if they want better image quality low light etc and the other advantages full frame bring over crop cameras no matter how subtle you feel those differences between full frame and crop are. That cost difference between full frame and crop is worth it to that person for those advantages. And if it doesn’t matter as much the cost savings crop cameras and gear bring can be worth it to the next person.. what’s most important is can you take great photos regardless of what you shoot. To me the cost difference is worth the difference in the results and use in the field but might not be to others who enjoy crop cameras and that’s perfectly fine..
Well not specific to the crop sensor conversation, you are speaking my business philosophy language. Get what you need to get the job done, spend only what you need to get the job done. I shoot on Nikon Z5's and it's funny when I hear some CZcamsrs say - oh the Sony autofocus is so much better. True - it's fast - I used an A7iv for the last year, but I am back on the Z5. Because in the end I don't lose any shots, I love the colors and I am fully kitted out for the price of one A7iv. BTW I will stay on Sony for video..:) But that is where I went APSC with the FX30 again down grading from my A7S3 and again I am not losing shots.
I still use two older canon crop sensor cameras 7d and 60d they work fine great images
I had this exact conversation with MYSELF. As I am self taught, I learnt the hard way. I started my filming career after following my uncle who started in the early 90s. the 1st camera I had that i used for weddings and charging people was a Sony digital 8 camcorder, the DCR-TRV356 or something like that lol. in the early 2000s I got my 1sr expensive dedicated video camera. It was the worlds 1st HD video camera the sony HDR FX1E. It filmed on mini dv cassettes. I also had a passion for photography. I kept getting asked if i done photography along side filming weddings. So I got my 1st prp DSLR (I say pro as i used it to make money) it was the Canon 20D I had a canon 18-55mm EFS F3.5 - F5.6 & Sigma 70-200mm F2.8. It took a good few years to learn how to use it properly. I started with learning to manage people & composition before I understood F stop and getting off auto. Then the Canon 60D with the 18-135mm f3.5 - f5.6. Man I felt the dogs boll%oks shooting weddings using the Sony hdr fx1e & canon 60d.
I had multiple jobs when we had kids, shooting film & pictures was never full time, I only worked from recommendations and word of mouth.
Fast forward years later, after having kids and other stuff life throws at us.
I am a lot more invested in the camera world. I now use both FULL FRAME & APS-C cameras. I use Sony aps-c & canon full frame with the R series and RF Lenses. I also learnt buying the latest camera wasn't the most cost effective way to do it lol. I figured that it makes sense to invest in better quality lenses than the latest camera with all the features you need, plus a host of stuff you don't use but it sounds good when reading spec sheet.
As buying say a L RF lens will last 4 times longer than a new camera every few years. So you only need to buy new cameras with body only, as investment in the lens pays off greatly. I use Sony APS-C as i like the small size and the quality video they produce. I love my Sony ZVE-10, i've filmed many weddings and other work using it. It might look like an amateur camera if it's on it's own. However once it's got the cage on with a monitor, mic set up and a decent bit of glass (lens) it blows things out the water, for a cheap camera it is incredible and produces incredible content. It also adds to the same issue as FULL FRAME vs APS-C as it does using 10bit vs 8bit video. 10bit set up costs a lot more than an 8bit. But when shooting a high quality wedding film the couple can't tell. They look at the film you made and see the HAPPY WEDDING DAY surrounded by the people they love most.
I agree, sir. I’ve only used crop sensor cameras for my pro shoots with no quality complaints over the last 20 years. Thank you.
I had a Canon 750D for years and got fantastic photos. Noisy beast in low light though. After years shooting and watching youtube and online forums I just picked up a Canon 6D as I want very particular things out of it that I know the sensor can handle, and I already have a stack of EF glass.
Picking up a second 6D body to break into professional work but I get the feeling I'll be buying into Sony or Fujifilm in a couple of years
Crop sensors are really good especially with great glass on it
Exactly
Love my xh2s more than any other camera at the moment
My first wedding with fujifilm was a long time ago.. However, it was a "Hollywood" people wedding (groom was the son of an actor & the bride was the niece of another actor).. There were a lot of people at the wedding who worked in TV & movie industry.. And nobody cared if I was using a crop sensor or a full frame!!!!
The couple loved their photos and 2 years later, I photographed the wedding of the bride's sister (still with my fuji)
Right now, I use 2 xh1, but plan to either get a xt5 or xh2
(I only use 3 prime lenses.lol)
I’m in the same boat. I’ve been glued to my x-t5. Not using my full frame Sonys as much.
AMEN! i needed to hear this also. i also shoot weddings and events and i come across photographers talking about gear and etc.. i stop and say, if my client says WOW!!! that's all that matters to me and get my next referral. everything is seen on a phone nowadays and laptop.. so everything will look amazing. My client is not going to zoom in or look for pixels or soft edges and so on.
they will look at photos onces and then again after 15 years, by then their eye sighjt will be poor lol!!! so my photos will still look amazing. JUST SHOOT AND HAVE FUN PEOPLE!..if you like the photo, that's all that matters. Everyone on youtube is a photo judger nowadays,, no one told them NO ONE CARES!!! GO JOHN! YOU SAID IT BEST
Exactly!!!
I still shooting with 2 Nikon 7100 with over 150k shots each. My clients never asked but thank me for capturing the moments that matter.
I love Fujifilm. Great cameras, but for my wrestling photography I use full frame as I get clearer pictures when compared to APSC with the same settings (f1.4, ISO 6400, and SS 1/500-1/1000)
Great inspiration, fabulous quality!
Thanks so much!
If your lens is crappy you are going to get crappy photos. So rather than making a body choice based on the sensor, it should be based on the lens you choose.
As an APS-C shooter i enjoy every second of this video with a big smile on my face. I also agree with the fact that APS-C is defitnately not that bad at all in many situations where you have good daylight or a studio where you can modify the light exactely the way you want. I'm a happy owner of the brandnew Sony A6700 since August. And the photography results that i get with this camera are amazing. Also because of the backside illuminated sensor and AI autofocus borrowed from the A7RV. When comparing this to my oldskool A6000. I believe that the APS-C camera's wich came out this year also from Canon and Fujifilm are the start of an entire new generation of more advanced APS-C camera's. Who are getting more close to their by many considered "professional only" full frame siblings.
I'm a proud user of X-T5 and X-H2S
Love my XT3'S.
Great business and photography advice!!
Thanks a bunch. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
I love my A7IV but truly miss my Fuji camera.
Fuji is always the one you'll remember. 😂
The reason why dual card slots are important made me choose the Nikon D7200 over the newer D7500.
For any kind of photography, we DO need the best. But 'the best' is not defined by the highest price tag. It's defined by our preferences and style. In a search I have purchased a Tokina AT-X Pro 28-80 and man is this a wonderful lens. It's not 'the best' technically speaking, but the way my results look, are so inspiring to me and that gives confidence, which is important while taking photo's. Besides that... I bought this lens for next to nothing. More pleasure.
I somehow disagree with the statement that clients don't know anything about photography, because some do know more than most amateur photographers (with expensive gear). But indeed they don't care what gear you use. I will always consider the client expects the best I can and my confidence during the shoot is key to the best results I can deliver. It surely is not about the price tag or the sensor size, it's about knowing your gear through and through. Only then you can decide what a different sensor or lens will do.
About low light I can say that the greatest bs is blown into the world. I have purchased the Nikon D600 because of it's remarkable low light performance and when I got an Olympus OM-D E-M10IIIs for my daughter, I was curious how that would compare at ISO 3200 in the exact same circumstances... They are only visible when pixel peeping and after a post in DxO PhotoLab, the difference is nihil. Photographing with that tiny camera is a joy because of the impressive results the Zuiko optics deliver. (Especially the 12-40 1:2.8). Under normal circumstances (printing up to 30 cm in an album and posting them on Flickr), it's not possible to see any difference. Not even at ISO 6400 most of the time.
Its really just user preference. Definitely pros and cons to both. I shoot R8 FF and R10 Apsc. Each has its use and strengths and weakness.
Oh yeah totally. I'll admit the title is a little click bait. The main point I'm trying to get across to photographers is removing this stigma that APS-C is immediately not as profession as FF
Yes I buy from KEH a Fujifilm good condition but it's outstanding like new😊😊😊😊😊
In your opinion changing a 6D mark II for an 80D is a good choice or not ? I shoot nature, landscapes, flowers, forests. And EFS lenses are cheap but good.
At the end of the day..... Between a D850 and d500 I enjoy the results I get off the d500 more (crop)
Nice!
This is my setup, best of both worlds.
DOF-wise i think F2 is the sweetspot... oh, thats around F1.4 on APSC - one of the reasons i switched to fuji from sony
Man got points.👏🏽
excellent presentation... great information!
Glad it was helpful!
i am agee with u ,i shoot with 3 fujifilm for last 3 year i have not get a single complain
Exactly. As long as you're getting great results and delivering an amazing product that's really all that matters.
Perfect, John! You’re the best!
Thanks a bunch! I hope you enjoyed the video.
Crop Sensors definitely have some advantages over full frame but there are not better per say. There are evolving to compete with full frame on qualities and other professional features.
I agree with you 100% - although I am not a professional, I am a hobbiest, and I do not see value of a Full Frame over my APS-C especially since I am generating ZERO money off of it, when traveling (lighter weight of APS-C pays huge dividends here) however, at 1/4th the cost, I absolutely love the results I get in a APS-C universe. Now - I made the mistake of going Nikon for this shortly after the Z50 was released and Nikon has ignored this format badly, but I’d rather stick with it than shell out more money for something I do not need.
The problem comes when those said crop camera are more expensive than the full frame completion. I stayed with Fuji purely because it’s a chore to change systems and financial lose I also like the colours and gets me there quicker when editing. But as the prices keep creeping up tbh it harder to justify body wise.
But full frame native glass is proper expensive like canons rf mount. So isn’t that clear cut I guess
Thank You!!! I can’t tell you all the times I’ve seen people looking for second shooters, but they insist that you “must have a full frame”. Now the new thing is, “must have mirrorless” How about you know how to use your camera and you have excellent glass. In my opinion, they are just regurgitating things they’ve heard, but they have no real idea on how gear works.
Hello I just can't decide which to buy between this 2 choices since they are both priced similar at $1500
a. Sony ZV-e10 with Sigma 16mm 1.4 & Sigma 56mm 1.4
b. Canon eos RP with Canon Rf 16mm 2.8 & Canon Rf 50mm 1.8
what would be your choice? at first I was sure with Canon cause its full frame but now I am slowly getting attracted with the Sony option because of that sigma lenses.
PS. Gonna use them for event photogaphy/video.
Comes down to use case. I shot only Fuji for years, but there were certain things that started to become a hindrance, so I added Nikon FF cameras to my lineup. In addition to my studio work, I do shoot concerts and events where the poor low light capabilities of the Fuji system became apparent. And when I bought my z7ii, Fuji still hadn't come out with a high res camera, that I wanted for my studio and portrait work. That having been said, if I'm going to have fun with a system, be creative, travel, or just enjoy photography, my XT-3 is what I reach for. But for my professional work, my z6ii and z7ii mean less work for me on the back end, and an easier shooting experience on the front end. Of course, YMMV. Cheers
I always say real usability will always win in conversations. I use my Fuji XT4 for my entire business and nobody EVER asks me if I shoot full frame. My work with national product brands, food, weddings, portraits even the ballet and sports…not one single client has ever asked about bokeh…they pay for sharp beautiful imagery. I accomplish that all day every day with Fuji. 🤘😎🤘
Well said! 💯 Not to mention, shooting with a crop sensor allows you to have a lightweight and compact setup, which is a game changer for all day events! 💪
Yeah the lightweight aspect of it honestly probably the most important part. It makes a HUGE difference.
I agree I started on canon 80d and eventually moved to full frame mirrorless. But the fuji cameras have always had my attention. I just don’t want to convert over 😢