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  • MAG159 - Case #0182509-B - Peter Lukas
    Statement regarding their life, family and interactions with The Lonely.
    The Magnus Archives learns of influencing factors and history of the current Head of the Institute that are relevant to the situation at hand and a certain missing person.
    Content Notes: Isolation, murder / death / loss; family estrangement / neglect
    Starring: Martin Blackwood - Alexander J Newall; Peter Lukas - Alasdair Stuart; The Archivist - Jonathan Sims
    Writer: Jonathan Sims
    Director: Alexander J Newall
    Producer: Lowri Ann Davies
    Editors: Alexander J Newall, Annie Fitch, Brock Winstead
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  • @loading7496
    @loading7496 Před 3 lety +1755

    "I was walking alone enjoying my solitude but a person had the audacity to exist so I put an end to that." Peter Lukas may be a jerk but he's also an introvert mood and I respect that.

    • @mariamatedei
      @mariamatedei Před 2 lety +90

      the lonely is just introvert brain taken to its logical end

    • @carpetcatco
      @carpetcatco Před 2 lety +65

      _I would like to apply for The Lonely_

    • @hamburgerdog25
      @hamburgerdog25 Před rokem +31

      Person: exists
      Peter: and I took that personally

    • @MrGeneralHeavy
      @MrGeneralHeavy Před 9 měsíci +3

      Without condoning or condemning...I understand

    • @thedistinguished5255
      @thedistinguished5255 Před 9 měsíci

      you people are not okay, i hope you know that. you need help

  • @samdal420
    @samdal420 Před rokem +820

    I can't believe Gertrude cockblocked Peter's ritual by getting him canceled lmao 😭

  • @Companion92
    @Companion92 Před 4 lety +2056

    The lines "I really loved you, you know" and "I see you, Jon" get me every time

    • @germanerd6148
      @germanerd6148 Před 3 lety +52

      My gay boys

    • @peachypauper
      @peachypauper Před 3 lety +20

      Welp guess I got spoiled to this huh? Lol

    • @matheusribeiro4733
      @matheusribeiro4733 Před rokem +45

      If jon had answered "and i see you", i kid you not, i would have LOSTED ALL MY SHIT, and would never recovery again, thank you very much.

    • @jgtb0pl
      @jgtb0pl Před rokem +34

      for me it's "Don't worry, I know the way"
      It's so reassuring

    • @Vi_Vi_1
      @Vi_Vi_1 Před rokem +11

      @@jgtb0pl and he says it so tenderly

  • @semiengima
    @semiengima Před 3 lety +1749

    The Moment Jon realised there was a guilt free meal talking to him.

  • @amphitritemists4595
    @amphitritemists4595 Před 3 lety +962

    Do you know what this means? Elias remembered and learned from Martin's fire trick. That's why he was so comfortable making that bet with Peter Lucas cause he knew Peter would pick Martin (he lost his mom, his closest friends, and his true love was in a coma). None of the girls were an option because they all had someone to cling to so Martin made the perfect bait but Elias knew that at the end of the day Martin would always choose Jon over anything he could never be truly part of the Lonely when he had Jon to cling to. Elias knows better to never underestimate Martin again. The moment Jon came back Elias won the bet.

    • @theprideling
      @theprideling Před 3 lety +99

      Oh dang, I never thought about it like that... shit. I guess that's why he's survived this long, learning his lessons well and adapting, pitting everyone else against each other.

    • @Dani_1012
      @Dani_1012 Před rokem +1

      Goddamn I love that bastard

  • @TelenTerror
    @TelenTerror Před 4 lety +1500

    Neat touch how Peter talks himself hoarse over the course of his statement. Also, let us doff our caps in acknowledgment of the awesomeness of Gertrude Robinson, a woman so resourceful and aware of how to bring power to a point that she stopped a ritual with a tip to a newspaper.

    • @Rolan7196
      @Rolan7196 Před 3 lety +175

      Right? With all the buildup I was half-expecting the answer to be another bomb. Establishing her as this cold, manipulative researcher with a tendency to take comedicaly direct explosive solutions in the end.
      I underestimated her!

    • @f_mva
      @f_mva Před 3 lety +29

      gertrude was a badass bitch

    • @TelenTerror
      @TelenTerror Před 3 lety +26

      @@f_mva Let us hope to see her like again in more media.

    • @Jazzisa311
      @Jazzisa311 Před 2 lety +62

      @@Rolan7196 Oh yeah I'm just picturing the look on Lucas' face when all the ppl living within that appartment are flooded with guests and start having these incredible social lives because of those community outreach programs XD. Gold.

    • @josh8901
      @josh8901 Před 7 měsíci

      My favorite ritual and my favorite way to destroy it

  • @arifhossain9751
    @arifhossain9751 Před 4 lety +2830

    I love how Peter Lucas' ritual is just being a terrible landlord.

    • @mimkyodar
      @mimkyodar Před 4 lety +130

      Heheh, You think THIS is being a terrible landlord...

    • @RoseMultiverse
      @RoseMultiverse Před 4 lety +99

      I mean that’s just land lords in general

    • @arifhossain9751
      @arifhossain9751 Před 4 lety +17

      @@RoseMultiverse
      But *I* am a landlord...

    • @Iquey
      @Iquey Před 3 lety +117

      He installed soundproofing walls. That's a far cry from evil. More like, eccentric.

    • @alchemicpunk1509
      @alchemicpunk1509 Před 3 lety +24

      @@arifhossain9751 And?

  • @HeyItsNovalee
    @HeyItsNovalee Před 3 lety +1565

    While everyone else is trying to do their rituals by making murder freak shows and meat pits peter’s just out here playing the sims 4

    • @chiarag2756
      @chiarag2756 Před 3 lety +8

      Welp, time to die! *removes door*

    • @wileatsglass
      @wileatsglass Před rokem +83

      I wonder if they had one of those one by one murder pools

    • @Pepperpotk
      @Pepperpotk Před rokem +66

      Is there anything lonlier that playing pretend house with a pretend family?

    • @carmelwolf129
      @carmelwolf129 Před rokem +36

      @@Pepperpotk playing that but with dolls, alone in a kindergarten when every single child other than you is quietly focused on a singular shiny new computer. happened to me when i was little, i had aaall the toys to myself for once and no one to play with. wouldn't recommend.

    • @Dani_1012
      @Dani_1012 Před rokem +7

      @@carmelwolf129 Damn is that what being a kid must be like these days?

  • @missep1830
    @missep1830 Před 2 lety +447

    Peter's "...what?" after Jon's "perhaps you could answer some questions"
    had me like
    OH SHIT SON

    • @table2.0
      @table2.0 Před 9 měsíci +10

      Like “yessss~ yeeEEESSSSS!!” Lmao
      The gay deserves the upper hand for once

  • @gracee8106
    @gracee8106 Před 4 lety +1237

    i just... i love martin so much... jon really said im gonna pull you out of the lonely using the power of love and then we're gonna walk off into the sunset together huh.

    • @f_mva
      @f_mva Před 3 lety +55

      my heart is full of happiness and fear because there's one episode left in the season and that does not bode well

    • @Amalgemotion
      @Amalgemotion Před 3 lety +8

      @@f_mva I'm sure you know full well by now but... :)

    • @f_mva
      @f_mva Před 3 lety +11

      @@Amalgemotion :'(

    • @amphitritemists4595
      @amphitritemists4595 Před 3 lety +14

      I love this podcast and i love that its a horror tragedy but im also very protective of every character😭

    • @macabrecitrus2127
      @macabrecitrus2127 Před 3 lety +9

      And Martin's feelings for Jon derailed Peter's plan. The power of love, really

  • @germanerd6148
    @germanerd6148 Před 3 lety +1387

    I love how the fight of the lonely against the watcher is symbolized by their last sentences to each other:
    "Leave me alone!"
    "Tell me!"
    They represent their avatars so well.

    • @madam-mint
      @madam-mint Před 2 lety +82

      I feel like since their characters are servants to polar opposite powers it’s really brilliant that they have a “worthy adversary” dynamic

    • @greygoose8803
      @greygoose8803 Před rokem +44

      it's really just who can tantrum and whine harder

    • @ghoulishffx
      @ghoulishffx Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@madam-mintno fr it gives "finally, a worthy opponent" vibes

  • @aoifemcg8154
    @aoifemcg8154 Před 3 lety +1061

    Elias' prize if he won was that Peter had to by him the Louis Vuitton spring collection.

    • @Iquey
      @Iquey Před 3 lety +72

      U see the 2020 men's spring collection? It's quite nice.

    • @lonewaffle231
      @lonewaffle231 Před rokem +11

      By or buy

    • @greygoose8803
      @greygoose8803 Před rokem +27

      ​@@lonewaffle231 bi

  • @ashworldstudios859
    @ashworldstudios859 Před 4 lety +1080

    The line "I see you" is reflected so many times throughout the series excuse me for a moment while I go stick my head in a waffle iron and cry-

    • @WeAreAirborne
      @WeAreAirborne Před 3 lety +147

      bro i FEEL you..... from sasha in season one saying "I see you!" to the NotThem before she was taken..... to the overarching theme of being ominously Watched by the Beholding... to various characters deliberately putting themselves in the terror limelight to distract or help someone else (a la "open the door, Martin" back in the s3 finale)...... to elias using it as a threat towards anyone he thinks might try to get in the way..... to finally, here and now, it's spoken with gentle relief and the most tender love..... BRO im going to EAT my ENTIRE PHONE thinking abt this, going to straight up empty a whole can of hairspray DIRECTLY into my mouth in a cornfield at 2am

    • @tomisabum
      @tomisabum Před 3 lety +86

      "I don't want to JUST survive" is pretty strong, too.

    • @kingsaracoon9594
      @kingsaracoon9594 Před 3 lety +95

      YES! I noticed too! It actually comes up constantly at the second to the last episode of every season. It took me a while to find it but the pattern is evidently there.
      S1 MAG 39 - before being replaced by the Not!Them, you can hear Sasha on tape shouting helplessly at them, "I See You! Show yourself!" and this being repeated over and over in echoes until the Not!Sasha successfully replaces her.
      S2 MAG 79 - When Jon is gathering evidence against the Not!Them and finally listens to Sasha's tape he says, "and now... I See You", and clicks off.
      S3 MAG 119 - During the Unknowing, before telling Nikola Orsinov about her life, he says in faint recognition "I See You..."
      S4 MAG 159 - and finally we have Jon's "Martin, what do you see?"
      and Martin's "I See You" moment.
      AUGH ITS JUST SO GOOD HOW WELL-WRITTEN THIS SHOW IS.
      I am too monkey-brained to rat out a good analysis on the meaning behind "I See You" other than it relates to the whole Beholding™ business, that it was intentionally written in by no other than Jonny, and there is no way I can decipher any of it's thematic meanings further.
      However I do have one take on why it's reiterated constantly in this way and why. Every time it's used in these episodes, the second-to-the-last ones, it's a sort of realization or epiphany for the characters. The first was Sasha realizing what she was facing, next is Jon coming to the conclusion of what he needs to do to defeat the Not!Them, Jon Knowing about Nikola Orsinov's creation, finally Martin knowing he wasn't alone anymore.
      Idk at least that's my take but either way WOW what an amazing way of making the audience unconsciously realize a theme using good old repetition of symbolism. I love this show.

    • @The_ONLY_Kiyuko
      @The_ONLY_Kiyuko Před 2 měsíci

      @@kingsaracoon9594whoa-

  • @Eyepocampix
    @Eyepocampix Před rokem +129

    I love that Peter describing his incredibly evil acts of evilness is like ‘Yeah, so I made the kitchen cooktops just too small to cook omelets on. Diabolical, I know’

  • @cecilkeith1951
    @cecilkeith1951 Před rokem +132

    I absolutely adore the mundane magic battle of "LEAVE ME ALONE" vs "TELL ME". Like, in this world, those two uttering those words is dangerous and terrifying, but the guy across the street watching it is like "lol this guys are kooky"

    • @cantaloupegodling352
      @cantaloupegodling352 Před 5 měsíci +14

      Imagine you see a guy yell "Leave Me Alone" at another guy and he responds by yelling "Tell Me" and then the first guy fucking explodes.

    • @cecilkeith1951
      @cecilkeith1951 Před 5 měsíci +10

      @@cantaloupegodling352 "Hello, police. Uhm, A guy just yelled 'tell me' to my neighbor and my neighbor exploded. I think I need help?"
      "I see"

  • @amelia_airhead272
    @amelia_airhead272 Před 3 lety +1112

    watching jon find martin in the lonely like Orpheus who???? we stan one man saving his love from the underworld and not losing faith in his ability to do so

    • @Tongue_Eating_Louse
      @Tongue_Eating_Louse Před 3 lety +59

      The scene with Elias at the end of MAG158 is the equivalent of "Wait for Me"

    • @lel1160
      @lel1160 Před 2 lety +27

      @@Tongue_Eating_Louse oh my god THANK YOU i got full chills when jon said "i know the way" very Promises of him

    • @Falcon-doing-doodles
      @Falcon-doing-doodles Před rokem +26

      An ironic reverse parallel would be Orpheus' failing by looking, and Jon succeeded by looking

    • @rue6914
      @rue6914 Před rokem +4

      Hate to break it to you but Orpheus doesn't exactly uhhh... end up successful

    • @flamingtorrent2109
      @flamingtorrent2109 Před rokem +3

      Oh now i have to look for tma animatics with hadestown music

  • @clovercard22
    @clovercard22 Před 3 lety +1639

    Jon and Martin are the best slow burn romance I've ever seen regarding main characters of a non-romantinc genre and I could say so many things about them but I can sense it would mostly be me babbling and crying. So, I'm just going to sit back and scream into my hands.

    • @clovercard22
      @clovercard22 Před 3 lety +114

      @Emily Barclay yes YES it is so organic and flows so well with how their characters evolve and it ends up being so important to the overall story I am honestly stunned everytime I stop to think about it

    • @rotemsosna8893
      @rotemsosna8893 Před 3 lety +13

      yep

    • @rodolfogonzalez724
      @rodolfogonzalez724 Před 2 lety +4

      What about Mulder and Scully?

    • @erikluis1476
      @erikluis1476 Před 2 lety +12

      I agree with this so much😭 the amount of screaming into the void I’ve done just because I’m not getting my ship is making me scream

    • @PrettyBoyDevito
      @PrettyBoyDevito Před rokem +4

      @@rodolfogonzalez724 your comment has me thinking about a JonMartin X-Files AU

  • @aw3707
    @aw3707 Před 4 lety +944

    peter: haha ur friends are dead, basically
    jon: It's Feeding Time
    anywho off topic but the way jon feeds on people REALLY reminds me of a spider- he catches you with a question and sucks out your story, which he feeds on

    • @thecoalcoloredfox4004
      @thecoalcoloredfox4004 Před 2 lety +40

      Excuse me while i go sit in my room and rethink eveyrthing.

    • @azulBjort_1406
      @azulBjort_1406 Před 2 lety +27

      Well he is marked by the mother of puppets after all

    • @lyx8039
      @lyx8039 Před rokem +8

      @@azulBjort_1406 and all of the other entities

    • @fish3977
      @fish3977 Před rokem +15

      While you can't really draw a circle of the powers, I would say that the spider is also very close to the eye. The eye seeks knowledge while the spider manipulates which can be done in many ways be it threats of violence or addiction but blackmail and just knowing what string to pull are both forms of knowledge

    • @backinthedark
      @backinthedark Před rokem +4

      and then he keeps you in his web (and dreams)!!!!

  • @klltsun_2576
    @klltsun_2576 Před 3 lety +645

    Am I the only one who imagined Jon taking Martin's hand to lead him out of there or...? Cause, if that was me I would be terrified that if I just walked in front, I'll turn around only to see that we got separated

  • @mimkyodar
    @mimkyodar Před 4 lety +762

    Actually, on relistening, one thing that strikes me is that this really doesn't feel like Peter speaking. Peter has his own way of talking, and this... isn't it. I really get that feeling of Jon (by way of the Eye) pulling out his story from him.

    • @Iquey
      @Iquey Před 3 lety +187

      I think it's partly true. Peter's natural intonation is of a removed and reserved nature. Never giving too much up. So this is Peter in pain, spilling his guts to Jon, passive aggressively grimacing probably through the whole ordeal.

    • @ToastyMcMarshmallow
      @ToastyMcMarshmallow Před 3 lety +98

      I noticed that too. He almost sounds like he's reading from a script. He seems to het more horse as he goes, so maybe he's still trying to fight against Jon?

    • @faxonii
      @faxonii Před 3 lety +90

      @@ToastyMcMarshmallow i interpreted the hoarseness to mean that peter didn’t often talk that much at one time, what with him spending most of his time alone

    • @teleutenachtigaller2762
      @teleutenachtigaller2762 Před 2 lety +8

      He's not actually pulling it out. He tried but soon after Peter agreed to give a statement.

  • @jormungandrworldserpent6437
    @jormungandrworldserpent6437 Před 2 lety +559

    This whole time I’ve been imagining the Tape Recorders as some sort of vintage really big and very clunky type thing, so I kind of just assumed whenever they brought one along they either put it In a backpack or carried it awkwardly in their arms…
    I realize now that they probably just have the handheld portable ones… it makes the entire story make… a lot more sense.

    • @screamingcactus1753
      @screamingcactus1753 Před rokem +56

      I thought the exact same thing at first. I was imagining those recorders that turn big spools of exposed magnetic tape, not cassettes. No one ever referred to them as cassette tapes, so I never made the connection.

    • @Falcon-doing-doodles
      @Falcon-doing-doodles Před rokem +10

      @@screamingcactus1753 pretty sure they have at least a few times

    • @hamburgerdog25
      @hamburgerdog25 Před rokem +9

      In my mind sometimes its a small oen and sometimes its a big one, depending on where they are or what theyre doing

    • @hamburgerdog25
      @hamburgerdog25 Před rokem +6

      Also, do you realize that if whatever is spawning the recorders, it or they majorly support JonxMartin?

  • @elliebryson6045
    @elliebryson6045 Před 3 lety +219

    Jon took out Peter Lukas, a very powerful avatar of The Lonely, while IN The Lonely. Even though the Archivist is the closest thing to our protagonist, his powers are terrifyingly strong wow

    • @spectatormoon9800
      @spectatormoon9800 Před rokem +31

      Fun fact: the protagonist does not need to be the Good Guy. The protagonist is simply the main character through which the story progresses. Protagonist does not equal good.
      Secondarily, Let Jon Be A Villain. In this essay I will-

  • @Drak_buddy
    @Drak_buddy Před 9 měsíci +62

    Jon: what are you scared to talk to me face to face?!
    Peter (social anxiety) Lucas: yes or havnt you been listening?🤨

  • @atomykebonpyre
    @atomykebonpyre Před 3 lety +379

    “I really loved you, you know?”
    Fuck... now I’m crying...
    “I see you, Jon”
    STOP IT IM ALREADY CRYING

  • @Thisone109
    @Thisone109 Před 2 lety +199

    I forgot how canonically terrified of Gertrude Peter was 😂 she's like his bogeyman. Sorry *bogeyoldlady*

    • @hamburgerdog25
      @hamburgerdog25 Před rokem

      She's a fucking gangster. Like old school, you know the name, I forgive ya but my tommy gun dont fucking gangster. 76-and-still-kick-your-ass-fucking-Robinson. She'd probably terrify Al Capone had she been around in his time

  • @AnanasVert
    @AnanasVert Před 2 lety +155

    "A crew who was loyal and dedicated to... my money". Peter Lukas continues to be a delight

  • @scuzmunkie
    @scuzmunkie Před rokem +65

    Martin: “I was on my own, I was all on my own.”
    Jon: “Not anymore.”
    When I say my heart melted 😭

  • @user-th3tg4fb5g
    @user-th3tg4fb5g Před 2 lety +130

    "But I still can’t picture my mother’s face with any clarity" reminds me of what Gerry said in MAG48 (Lost in the Crowd): "Remember your mother's face"

    • @kirin4455
      @kirin4455 Před 8 měsíci +10

      The mom and upbringing theme actually parallels a lot of people, Annabelle Cane being led to manipulation by hers, Peter Lucas intentionally brought up like this, Gerry's whole shenanigans with his mom all over the place as he was. Maybe there's more but i can't remember rn.
      Edit: Martin too

    • @hamnahmashood9094
      @hamnahmashood9094 Před 8 měsíci +2

      this podcast never fails to blow my mind

  • @thestranger4894
    @thestranger4894 Před rokem +62

    Shoutout to Lukas for literally denying the eye to keep his buddy’s secret and dying. He’s a true homie

  • @faxonii
    @faxonii Před 3 lety +169

    PARALLELS Y’ALL THE PARALLELS
    martin says “we- i need you” to jon when he’s in a coma in the s4 trailer, and now jon says “we need you. i need you” to martin
    also the reoccurring “i see you,” as another commenter mentioned, is said in every episode before season finales

  • @aw3707
    @aw3707 Před 4 lety +318

    "dont worry. I know the way." AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YES U DO JON YES U DO

  • @L_Aster
    @L_Aster Před 3 lety +286

    Peter's apartments sounded pretty nice until he got to the, you know, murder thing

    • @Vi_Vi_1
      @Vi_Vi_1 Před 3 lety +26

      Ikr like I'd be into that without the whole "dying" bit

    • @bridesheaddeserted
      @bridesheaddeserted Před 2 lety +25

      Yeah maybe if he upgraded the kitchens a little it would be a hit

  • @golesh-ow5dp
    @golesh-ow5dp Před 8 měsíci +38

    Peter : well at least i took his archivist.
    Jon: MAGIC FORCE THERAPY
    Peter's introverted ass: NOOOOOO

  • @hollynotholy
    @hollynotholy Před 2 lety +75

    "I really loved you, you know?" always breaks my heart into a million pieces.
    "Let's go home."
    "How"
    "Don't worry. I know the way."
    THESE TWO, I SWEAR.

  • @Alsarnia
    @Alsarnia Před 7 měsíci +31

    The voice acting in this episode is INCREDIBLE. Not just the action parts, but Peter's voice as he's giving his statement. As it slowly gets more scratchy and agitated because he never talks to people for long periods of time so his voice is disused. Sooooo good.

  • @imalittlelady
    @imalittlelady Před rokem +86

    11:40 Peter’s voice breaking at the mention of the man smiling at him got me thinking…maybe he never liked being alone, but since it’s how his life is he just adapted to it by ‘believing’ he liked it. When someone finally gave him the tiniest of affection he was overwhelmed, and on reflex wanted to get back to what’s familiar to him; hence he sent him away. I’ll miss this big jerk :/

  • @aw3707
    @aw3707 Před 4 lety +319

    not even five minutes in and I'm struggling to not pause due to my severe "dont wanna cry" instinct

    • @aw3707
      @aw3707 Před 4 lety +17

      not even seven minutes in and I'm struggling to not go "fUCK YEAH" due to it being 2:15 am

    • @Rolan7196
      @Rolan7196 Před 3 lety +8

      I actually left the episode for a couple days around that point. Felt a little real o_o
      Glad I came back

  • @macabrecitrus2127
    @macabrecitrus2127 Před 3 lety +163

    So Martin's feelings for Jon derailed Peter's plan because when Jon woke up, he had a reason to go on. And Jon then basically saves him from the Lonely with the power of love, uh.
    What a romantic horror podcast, it's fitting I'm listening to it on pride month, hehe

  • @stirrcrazy2704
    @stirrcrazy2704 Před 10 měsíci +40

    Peter never inspired hatred in me quite like Elias did as a villain, but watching Jon literally EAT his statement was so cathartic that it had me cheering by the end of it lmao

  • @cthulhufhtagn2483
    @cthulhufhtagn2483 Před 2 lety +25

    The roughness in Peter's voice as he talks...He doesn't want to talk, and he's _not_ used to talking for this long.

  • @gc6929
    @gc6929 Před 3 lety +120

    Hot take: Peter *enjoyed* venting his life story, once he got going. He’s still a bit human, because there’s simply nothing more human than being lonely. This isn’t the spiral or the stranger: I’d guess he has to be more human than most avatars for that to even happen. Just a theory of course, but it seems logical to me. And if the Lonely needs its avatars a bit “human,” however monstrous, than I think Peter was just human enough to enjoy talking in spite of himself, after being unheard and unseen for his whole life. I think, in spite of himself, Peter felt good venting his story once it was out of his hands. You can hear his voice just rolling along. And in spite of the guy being a total jerk, that makes me feel kinda good inside.
    (I know this almost certainly wasn’t the author or voice actor’s intention. But also, Tim is on a kayaking trip, so who needs canon?)
    Edit: lol not sure what changed specifically but I no longer like my own hot take, I take it all back, I want to personally fistfight Peter Lukas in a denny's parking lot

    • @justeundonut-moi.7979
      @justeundonut-moi.7979 Před rokem +24

      Boy I sure am glad that Tim is enjoying his nice kayaking trip and that nothing bad ever happened to him

    • @lyx8039
      @lyx8039 Před rokem +12

      THE EDIT 💀

    • @hamburgerdog25
      @hamburgerdog25 Před rokem +8

      "I want to personally fist fight Peter Lukas in a Dennys parking lot" yeah thats the spirit

  • @ToastyMcMarshmallow
    @ToastyMcMarshmallow Před 3 lety +104

    Peter: Just go.
    Jon: Make me!
    Me: (surprised pikachu face)

  • @paigefuentes1055
    @paigefuentes1055 Před 3 lety +189

    Okay but the waves asmr tho 😌

    • @Catglittercrafts
      @Catglittercrafts Před 2 lety +13

      I get why the lonely would be calming.

    • @fruitygarlic3601
      @fruitygarlic3601 Před 2 lety +10

      I imagine an endless expanse of shallow seawater under an overcast sky, the occasional sun-bleached deck chair or umbrella floating in the distance. Shit's calming AF.

    • @guesswho8723
      @guesswho8723 Před 2 lety +12

      You're on the Tundra ship potentially about to get yeeted to the forsaken and probably die very terribly in the middle of the cold lonely ocean ASMR

  • @oliverh9663
    @oliverh9663 Před 2 lety +60

    I accidentally put on a Ghibli lofi track as Peter began giving his statement and I swear to god it changed the tone so drastically I almost fainted. He sounds like an audiobook of someone's memoir, with fond reminiscence.

  • @jenniferspoon5143
    @jenniferspoon5143 Před rokem +23

    It only took 3,975 odd minutes to make me weep ugly, sloppy tears and emotionally screaming out loud TELL HIM YOU LOVE HIM to the once sleeping cat on my lap. Now I'm crying ugly tears with a bleeding lap.

  • @royalknightsleipmon2345
    @royalknightsleipmon2345 Před rokem +22

    Martin's "I see you, Jon" being an expression of love is an ironic reflection of John "seeing" others and that being the thing that made him a monster, which is the reason others were turning on him and isolating him. Jon often can't help but hurt people by "seeing" them. Most people refuse to look past that and see the person still left inside, behind his actions. But Martin still very much sees the person Jon really is, the person he still is.

  • @theprideling
    @theprideling Před 3 lety +129

    Okay but can we talk about the sound editing on the "I see you, Jon" ???? The way the fading of the static and echo complements how the emotion pours back into his voice I-

  • @aubreyduncan2602
    @aubreyduncan2602 Před 2 lety +27

    Jon’s feeding diet: OH LOOK! It’s cheat day!

  • @Vi_Vi_1
    @Vi_Vi_1 Před 3 lety +54

    The way Jon's voice gets so soft when he talks to Martin 🥺💕

  • @pyrosianheir
    @pyrosianheir Před 3 lety +139

    Wowza... That vicious "Tell. Me." from John was amazing. O.o
    Edit: I'm sorry, did Jon just EXPLODE Peter Lukas, there at the end?

  • @dg674
    @dg674 Před 3 lety +82

    Jon insisting on being seen and not being defined by what separates him from others (his mistakes and powers)...powerful. I imagine Lucas would have targeted Jon if he was human, instead of Martin.

    • @dg674
      @dg674 Před 3 lety +16

      God, especially with his references to Tim and Sasha. Peter tried to insinuate Tim was being forgotten last episode.

  • @isaacwright407
    @isaacwright407 Před 3 lety +143

    There's a high level of "umph" that I get whenever Jon *extracts* someone to death. Don't know a better word for it, fear and power maybe?

  • @Alsmythical
    @Alsmythical Před 3 lety +106

    me, *watching season one*: "I don't get why everyone ships Jon and Martin together, I just don't think they'd make a good couple."
    Martin: "I see you..."
    me now: "Okay, I think I'm starting to understand."
    while I'm here I'm just gonna leave a little time stamp...
    23:18
    I'd also just like to say I have never been the type to care about ships and stuff like that but god damnit this was just a really sweet moment.

    • @hamburgerdog25
      @hamburgerdog25 Před rokem +3

      I actually came to TMA because I kept getting animatics reccomended to me, and a few of them are just filed with shippers and I thought "oh rad this looks interesting". Definitely wasn't what I expected and at one point I was like "oh alright, that was just a fan ship nbd still a fantastic show" and now, _now_ I see.

  • @katg5746
    @katg5746 Před rokem +13

    Arrrggh my heart😢
    "I see you, Jon. I SEE YOU."
    "Oh Martin..."
    😩😩😩

  • @hermes6513
    @hermes6513 Před rokem +22

    I just love how conniving Jon was here lmao. He gave partially into the lonely to lure Peter in and then he fucking ripped him apart with "Or maybe you can answer some of my questions-" archivist powers, it never gets old no matter how many listen throughs I do.
    I also obviously love the reunion of my fav slow burn ☺️

  • @georgiaf1354
    @georgiaf1354 Před 3 lety +48

    GUYS OMG!! I’m sure someone else has noticed but in the first season episode 13, Alone, which is the episode where the woman’s fiancé dies and she attends the funeral with the strange and silent family and ends up lost in a graveyard... her fiancé‘s name was Evan Lukas!!!!

    • @Vi_Vi_1
      @Vi_Vi_1 Před 3 lety +10

      Yeah!! I'm relistening now and the sheer quantity of little clues and links that were dropped right off the bat is just incredible. I'm catching far more on this second listening and I freaking love it

    • @amrabdelazeem9689
      @amrabdelazeem9689 Před rokem +7

      Like I think most people may have not made the exact relationship between Peter and Evan being brothers. But, it was kinda obvious from the get go. I think in that same episode Jon says something along the lines of "I wanted to do further digging but Elias told me to drop it because the Lukas family funds the institute". So the writer already established the Lukas family as a major player in the paranormal world even back then, I think I always had a hunch he was Peter's brother, given Peter's age. But yeah.
      What I find really funny, in a meta sort of way, is that Episode 13, probably the first direct reference to The Lonely, and definitely the first reference to the Lukas family, is the first episode when Jon is not alone in the recording, it's the first time we hear another voice, that of the fiancee.

    • @GarethOfByzantium
      @GarethOfByzantium Před 7 měsíci

      @@amrabdelazeem9689Peter’s brother is AARON, not Evan?

  • @neither_emonor_punk9355
    @neither_emonor_punk9355 Před 2 lety +21

    Jon sounded real scary talking to Peter, but when he finally found Martin his voice became so soft... I'm not crying you are
    damn where is another episode in the season something bad will happen I can feel it

  • @nanahuatli2144
    @nanahuatli2144 Před 3 lety +110

    I'm *such* a Lonely avatar. But not without books and the internet, that's too much.
    Due to the sound of the waves I now imagine the Lonely as the deepest dream level in Inception. It's a very lonely place.

    • @mimkyodar
      @mimkyodar Před 3 lety +17

      I see it as like a foggy beach, you know the sea is somewhere but you can't actually see it.

    • @carpetcatco
      @carpetcatco Před 2 lety +4

      I see it as an barren wasteland, with an eternally sunset sky stretching for miles...

    • @matthewalizzi9821
      @matthewalizzi9821 Před 2 lety +10

      Everyone who's watched this far into the series is basically a follower of The Eye

    • @DJSilly9
      @DJSilly9 Před rokem +2

      i'm a lonely avatar, but the slaughter hasn't realized and is trying to claim me. or the other way around idk

  • @elesaknowles5664
    @elesaknowles5664 Před 4 lety +117

    The ship has sailed ! Martin x Jon !

  • @loading7496
    @loading7496 Před 3 lety +78

    I should be so lucky to have a romance like Martin and Jon (minus the monsters and trauma)

    • @Cangeltibon
      @Cangeltibon Před 3 lety +9

      ....well the chances of not having the monsters is near 100%...the trauma?....

  • @juniper-moss
    @juniper-moss Před 3 lety +100

    Coming back here, this is still one of my favorite TMA episodes ever.

    • @jadynnkotch1833
      @jadynnkotch1833 Před 3 lety +5

      yes it's 100% my favorite

    • @hamburgerdog25
      @hamburgerdog25 Před rokem +2

      I'm not even re watching the show, I came here to hear this one episode and just for the Jon and Martin parts

  • @Adonys_Alyx_Andy
    @Adonys_Alyx_Andy Před 10 měsíci +9

    I adore when jon uses his abilities. He is usually a doormat whos always afraid, but when the power kicks in, i get a little nervous myself. I love his character so much. Great writing and the soune effects are phenomenal

  • @Rin-qj7zt
    @Rin-qj7zt Před 3 lety +47

    Jon is so powerful the only way Peter could resist telling him someone was to use the lonely to run away. Wow.

    • @theprideling
      @theprideling Před 3 lety +15

      He didn't though. Jon tore him apart.

  • @lordbaphie
    @lordbaphie Před 4 lety +129

    The Lukas household is kind of relatable to be honest. Only difference is I'm more of a 'decline the family tradition of loneliness' kind of person instead of a Peter Lukas.
    Edit: This scene will always make me cry like a river. The delivery of "I see you, John" makes me so soft and feel like a lonely single potato

  • @amandanaoexiste
    @amandanaoexiste Před 3 lety +132

    i love jon he is so scary

  • @aw3707
    @aw3707 Před 4 lety +84

    mahtin....

  • @stevenredacted1322
    @stevenredacted1322 Před rokem +12

    “He made his choice… and it wasn’t you” damn Lukas is real good at what he does. Really similar to Elias actually, just that one perfect shard of casual cruelty to make people submit to the comfort of loneliness…

  • @confused3523
    @confused3523 Před 2 lety +24

    Me gradually getting more horrified at how much I identify with the lonely

  • @mxxnlight111
    @mxxnlight111 Před 3 lety +45

    MARTIN AND JON ARE GONNA RUN INTO THE SUNSET AND HAVE CHEESE SANDWICHS ON THE BEACH NOW HUH C': THIS IS SO ADORABLE

  • @RubeeRoja
    @RubeeRoja Před 2 lety +13

    honestly I found it equally chilling and exciting when John overpowered him with, "I see you now now....... Tell me your story Peter Lucas".

  • @kee_do
    @kee_do Před 3 lety +51

    I absolutely love the choice of the sea, the way how peter talks, Everything about the Lonely
    That feeling of familiarity in the Lonely, captured so well, I love it gaha

  • @nnnonentityyy
    @nnnonentityyy Před 2 lety +13

    3:57 “I thought you might be lost” the single best line simply because jonny is such a fantastic voice actor but everyone sleeps on it!!! oh my god just the soft and gentle way he says it is just so perfect and conveys so much feeling considering now emotionally stunned jon is as a character lmao

  • @Vi_Vi_1
    @Vi_Vi_1 Před 3 lety +26

    The little shift in Jon's voice at 23:34 is so subtle but so full of emotion, of desperation

  • @ablynn_thegalewinds
    @ablynn_thegalewinds Před 3 lety +48

    I'M IN ACTUAL TEARS. GUYS. WOW OHMYGOD MY HEART

  • @RoseMultiverse
    @RoseMultiverse Před 4 lety +71

    This is the JonMartin episode!!

  • @sallym8697
    @sallym8697 Před 3 lety +112

    Still listening - only a few minutes in - and the Hadestown feels in this episode is r e a l
    Edit: Yep.

    • @TheNitpickChick
      @TheNitpickChick Před 3 lety +11

      Waaaait for me... 🎶🌹

    • @senormooples2354
      @senormooples2354 Před 2 lety +5

      @@TheNitpickChick I'm commin!!

    • @teatrej
      @teatrej Před 2 lety +5

      watch me make an animatic of wait for me for jonmartin and procrastinate

    • @anonymouspumpkin8296
      @anonymouspumpkin8296 Před 2 lety +5

      @@teatrej please do! And post a link when you're done, it would be amazing

  • @moonlight_scribe
    @moonlight_scribe Před 9 měsíci +4

    So
    I generally don't do shipping but when a relationship feels real and not forced, well damn. Tears.

  • @haldan_or_glitch
    @haldan_or_glitch Před 3 lety +15

    "It doesn't hurt here" That-that got me good...
    really good.

    • @Badficwriter
      @Badficwriter Před 2 měsíci +1

      "Even the fear is gentle." Ow ow ow.

  • @maryagrimm8412
    @maryagrimm8412 Před 3 lety +26

    That one scene where Jon just decides to feed off of peter

  • @nrpbrown
    @nrpbrown Před 3 lety +12

    Man, Peter Luka's Evil Apartment building sounds like...honestly pretty much like half the places I know.

  • @kat_the_mouse
    @kat_the_mouse Před 3 lety +23

    i thought Jon forcing answers out of Peter was the highlight of the video, and then...it got even better. :)

  • @bluerovr9917
    @bluerovr9917 Před rokem +13

    I can’t believe a ritual for an otherworldly being was brought down by The fucking Guardian

    • @CirisPaint
      @CirisPaint Před 12 dny

      Turns out the only way to stop the Lonely ritual is to get Peter cancelled

  • @Iquey
    @Iquey Před 3 lety +23

    I don't know why but... This is for some reason, unintentionally the most funny episode of season 4 to me. It's Peter. It's Struggles Statement Peter. 🤣

  • @alphalilly8207
    @alphalilly8207 Před 2 lety +6

    23:05 holy shit.... the first time this series has actually shaken me.... wtf was that noise... it was terrifying.

  • @arifhossain9751
    @arifhossain9751 Před 4 lety +169

    If you thought THIS was too emotional....
    You *may* want to restrain yourself while listening to the next episode.
    It's... Uh... Ummmm....
    Oh god how can I be ominous without emojis?
    Uh.... Next episode is 😶

    • @johnpears9558
      @johnpears9558 Před 4 lety +14

      @Arif Hossain that’s a good way of putting it without spoiling it

    • @mimkyodar
      @mimkyodar Před 4 lety +11

      Yes. It Is. Totally.

    • @wrenworthington8385
      @wrenworthington8385 Před 4 lety +22

      Next episode is 👁

    • @SwirlyPinwheel
      @SwirlyPinwheel Před 3 lety +13

      It took me several days before I was emotionally recovered enough to start season 5.

    • @f_mva
      @f_mva Před 3 lety +13

      i am F E A R
      been hearing about the dreaded episode 160 for like 20 episodes now and i am so very scared

  • @laurengardella9524
    @laurengardella9524 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I don't want to leave any spoilers just in case this gets a new wave of traction as it so deserves so I'll space my comment out...but oh my god I'm in tears. 😢❤
    I imagine Martin being so weak that Jon just scooped him up and carried him in the end.

  • @suzerainty4192
    @suzerainty4192 Před 3 lety +14

    GOSH the Jon/Martin emotions got me this episode ;_;
    I couldn't help but think of Dr Manhattan when Peter got ripped apart. There's that scene in the tv studio where Dr M shouts "I said leave me ALONE!" and poofs everyone away, combined with the fact that Dr M's ripped apart a few people. I'm not comparing the characters (Peter is far more likable); it's just where my mind automatically went

  • @teleutenachtigaller2762
    @teleutenachtigaller2762 Před 2 lety +10

    Do you think avatars get somehow weaker after giving their statements to Jon? Micheal was taken over by Helen right after it gave a statement, so it may be possible that the Archivist feeds on statement givers in more ways than one.

  • @nialls.9939
    @nialls.9939 Před 3 lety +12

    literally the sea of loneliness in the background

  • @hannahcartwright8190
    @hannahcartwright8190 Před 3 lety +29

    I am having a really bad Tourette's moment where my fingers are seizing and I just wanna say thanks Alex cause hearing his voice in the beginning made my fingers stop aching

  • @syrusangi8743
    @syrusangi8743 Před rokem +6

    Guess Jon's experience in the Buried actually paid off once again.

  • @christianbethany
    @christianbethany Před 2 lety +12

    Important timestamps:
    4:34 "I really loved you, you know?"
    23:55 the "I see you" bit

  • @Violet_Skye
    @Violet_Skye Před rokem +3

    The script in this podcast is phenomenal. I love the hidden details like how right before the unknowing comes to an end Tim's last words are "I know"
    And then in the lonely Peter's last words before John destroys him are "leave me alone"

  • @notlurking2128
    @notlurking2128 Před 3 lety +30

    Yikes what an episode huh? I honestly am rooting so much for the power of love to triumph over fear but I'm very scared. I honestly did now see Elias being Magnus, though now looking back I really should have seen it coming. Great ep!

  • @konamiman87
    @konamiman87 Před 3 lety +15

    I am new to this series and omg I cried at right when Martin said "I see you, Jon"

  • @theinfantmetroid
    @theinfantmetroid Před 10 měsíci +2

    "I thought you might be lost" KICKING. SCREAMING. CRYING.

  • @samhead7062
    @samhead7062 Před 29 dny +2

    The fact Peter’s one wish was to die alone and Jon just ruthlessly made certain he watched as this man got therapists to death. Love it ❤

  • @antaresmaelstrom5365
    @antaresmaelstrom5365 Před 3 lety +35

    Hearing Peter Lukas describe his Tower Block: "Oh my god, that's terrible! Where?"
    Listening to Jon rip Peter apart:
    "Tell me. Tell me, or I'll rip it from your mind."
    "NO"
    "Then I'll take it from you. NEURON BY NEURON. ALL OF IT PETER. *ALL* *OF* *IT!* "
    EDIT: And since there are probably people who don't know the reference (since, you know ... old) czcams.com/video/A9v1jJ_ATec/video.html

    • @Axius27
      @Axius27 Před 3 lety +3

      "You drink the whole contents of a bar, you don’t remember what the Merlot tastes like."
      I wonder if G'kar said something similar after his telepathic high wore off :P

  • @lilaboxx
    @lilaboxx Před 2 lety +7

    Jon's soft "don't worry" i can't 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

  • @smokespekter
    @smokespekter Před 2 lety +7

    when he said "I see you Jon" I literally screamed