How to Make the Prequels Amazing in 5 Minutes (Naboo = Alderaan, and other changes)
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The basic story of the prequels is really pretty good. The Separatists, the clone army, the secret Sith Lord pulling all the strings. But... the character of Anakin falls short. But it's not that hard to reimagine the story in a really effective way.
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Darth Vader does not consider his own men disposable. Darth Vader fights alongside Stormtroopers in both canons, and he's in the trenches with him, guiding them through battle. Vader had a horrible distaste for Imperial Officers however, as he saw them as spineless cowards. But the Stormtroopers? To them, Vader was a goddamn hero.
Sam Hayes yeah they said something like he wouldn't order them to do something he wouldn't do, and respected them
Sam Hayes Darth Vader has used Stormtroopers as human shields in the canon comics. Seems they're pretty disposable to me.
Sharrel Wright he kills a stormtrooper in the comics (the current, canon comics) after the storm trooper sees him without his mask/helmet
Then Disney doesn't know Vader.
Sam Hayes preach
"Naboo is Alderaan in this version"
...meaning that the Death Star blew up Jar Jar!
Actually, Jar Jar would be working with the Emperor because he is a Sith Lord.
You assume that Jar Jar even exists in this version
@Stratelier that happens in Adywans ANH: Revisited
Jar Jar isn´t a sith lord, but he was working with them.
Vader hallway sene with jar jar
You don't even need to change the story, just make the dialogue meaningful and natural. Instead of "From my point of view, the Jedi are evil" have "Realize what I have realized Obi-wan, there is no difference between the Jedi and the Sith. At least the Sith will help me save the ones i love." Little things like that would greatly improve the prequals
Doug Dimmadome this guy gets it
Doug Dimmadome , nice point. That quote you made sounds kinda like Luke in TLJ....another Skywalker male, struggling with his connection to the Force.
Excellent!
'Saving the ones I love' doesn't explain Anakin's desire to 'rule the galaxy', as he stated in Empire.
Angry people don't make rational arguments! They are not eloquent! Angry people are rash, simple in their thinking, their speech is quick and simple! Not only is Anakin angry, is is furious, filled with adrenalin and fighting for his life! Also he has been encouraged and convinced to use his anger to become powerful enough to save Padmé, the one person he cares about the most beyond anything! In this moment he feels she has betrayed him and brought Obi-Wan there to kill him. A man whom he felt was his brother and teacher, but have held him back and led him astray causing great pain and suffering. He has begun to resent Obi-Wan as a representative of the Jedi Order which have caused all the problems in his life. He does not want to calm down, nor have any reason to. So why in the fucking bloody blazing hell on Mustafar would he even for one moment blurt out anything other than quick simple lines that barely give an inkling of all he is feeling and believes! Angry people have trouble explaining them selves, they are so angry they can't think things through. Not long after saying those words he is shouting as he lunges towards Obi-Wan and unfortunately for him, his demise! He get's the other 3 limbs cut of and is set on fire, his whole remaining body covered in 3rd degree burns and his lungs are poisoned by the volcanic ash. He suffers locked up in that suit for the rest of his life and his one true love is dead, he believes it's by his hand. His only remaining cause in life is serving Sidious and bringing peace and stability to the Empire through force (which he dreamed about in Attack of the Clones, someone wise and powerful to force people to keep the peace).
Omg cool line
Can I just say I adore the idea of Anakin earning his own last name? It’s a gorgeous symbol of him becoming his own master
Maybe he could've earned his Skywalker name after he destroyed the Trade Federation command ship as a kid.
Cool!
Hey, as long as it includes me wrecking Anakin and just my generally awesomeness, I'm cool with it.
Obi-Wan Kenobi high ground
Obi-Wan Kenobi Dad????
General kenobi!
When you getting your own movie ? I mean that scruffy lookin' nerf herder's getting one
Obi-Wan Kenobi this would completely decanonise the clone wars :( I say no
I understand Darth Vader differently.
He is not a no-nonsense crusader, he seems that way because after Padme died, he no longer cares for anything and no longer does anything he doesn't have to (with left over time for brooding). He is there to get what he wants (or what the emperor wants and told him to get it). He understands that he is the apprentice and he is a "tool" for the emperor to intimidate and control the galaxy. He also understands that by himself, he can never defeat the emperor. It is because of this, that he seems aloof and doesn't mind killing his own men. The only time when Darth Vader come out of the slumber of being a "tool" is when his plan to over throw the emperor is kicked into gear and he finds Luke. His faith in the dark side of the force only extends for as far as he could gain enough power to kill the emperor.
Compare this to the full of life and energetic kid Anakin who wanted to help everyone he meets and strong sense of what is right and wrong. The later teen Anakin who was passionate and cared for much and more. Anakin's fall is not driven by power (although later on it is) but started as an attempt to protect everything he cared for. It is not ego but his feelings that pushed him to fall. Ultimately, Anakin and Vader is still a decent person, his sense of justice still rings true and that's why he understands his mistake and failure. He just no longer cared for any of it, as he no longer had a reason to. You are seeing the ultimate DEATH of Anakin into the machine that is Darth Vader.
On a side note, I like the Kid/Teen Anakin and I think bringing humanity to a character like Darth Vader before he falls is crucial. You don't want a cool/weird/no-nonsense kid, you want someone who is annoying (as any kid if you spent a good 2-3 hours next to them), and a teen Anakin that is more focused on himself and trying to do everything himself because thats the teen mentality.
I've never understood the desire to have Anakin be some kind of cool stoic "likeable" hero. IMO, that kind of character seems way less believable as somebody that will turn into Darth Vader. The Clone Wars series actually kind of did portray him as the cool no-nonsense guy, and as much as I love that show, I have a really difficult time imagining that interpretation of Anakin turning into Vader.
@@BigBennKlingon the problem with that is that... Why would Darth Vader go back to the light if he is an unlikable person?
@@BigBennKlingon I also don't understand why people want Anakin to be some kind of James Bond with women, when he grew up in the Jedi Temple and never had romantic contact to women. The same goes for Padmé. She became a queen at 14 and later served as a senator. She never had time for romance. That's why it's absolutely understandable that they're both awkward. Also, I like the innocence behind it. It's like a medieval tale of a knight and princess.
@Felipe A First off Anakin was a likable person. It was just Anakin had frustrations with the Jedi, which didn’t help with his mood. When we first met him he helped complete strangers, he always wanted to do good things. Anakin as a character had to have flaws, he couldn’t be all James Bond cool, because he becomes evil. If he was all cool good, then his turn wouldn’t be believable. This is why I have a problem with TCW Anakin he is just too clean good stoic, he feels less conflicted. In AOTC Anakin listened to Mace to stay on Tatoine even though Obi Wan could have been in grave danger, it was Padmé who had to convince him. He was trying to listen to his masters and follow them even though he has his issues with them, he try’s to listen to them but he was conflicted since he just murder tusksens who killed his mom and questioned himself as a Jedi after that. TCW made much milder, more upbeat.
@@yospidey0078 That's why I prefer the clone wars stuff that came before TCW. Remember Anakin in the old Clone Wars cartoon? He was much more close to the Anakin we know from the movies. Especially during the duel with Asajj Ventress on Yavin IV, where he became more and more angry until he snapped.
1:13 that's actually not true the Stormtroopers practically worshipped Darth Vader there's multiple novels that state that as a fact unlike other Imperial leaders he's actually there on the front lines helping them win battles
Master Of Disguise it is not that he don't care he just hates incompetent officers.
he hates the imperial officers, but he see's his fellow stormtroopers just like the clone troopers he served with in the clone wars, and he has great respect for them
This is not shown or even hinted at in the original trilogy though.
i did not see that in te original trilogy 🤷🏻♂️
@@DiasOtoño Maybe because he has no direct interactions with stormtroopers beyond basic orders? Do you want Vader to outright TELL you he respects them? Vader isn’t talkative in that sense, he’s primarily business first and foremost.
Anakin DOES think he's doing the right thing in the prequels. He's shown time and time again that the Jedi Order is flawed and full of hypocrisy. It's not that he was tricked, but, rather, that the affirmation he needed was Palpatine's argument
I think this helps to focus more on that than the Prequels did. "From my point of view the Jedi are evil" isn't exactly genius writing, even if it does get the point across that he thinks he's right (meanwhile his actions of murdering children and attempting to murder his wife seem to show the opposite.)
@@henryambrose8607 While i can agree with the Children part, he turns on his wife because at that point his judgement is so clouded by the Dark Side that he's seeing things that aren't there. Literally spelled out in the dialogue in that scene.
Well said and understood especially about Palpatine being the affirmation. It's something incredibly nuanced and true to life. Anakin already had frustrations with the Jedi and it's code and rules for years. Palpatine validated his frustrations and it's easier to believe you have always been right and been tricked than to think you are completely wrong and someone you think cares about you is wrong as well. I'm speaking from experience this is an extremely difficult position to navigate and right and wrong become very blurry.
It's often said that the Jedi Order is full of hypocrsy, but how exactly?
Because of the clone wars, the jedi stopped being peacekeepers and became generals, they repressed their emotions instead of tempering them, they persecuted the war instead of negotiating it, which is the opposite of Yoda's teaching to Luke that "a jedi never uses his power to attack, only defend".
This story sounds almost exactly like Revan's. Galactic sized war, the jedi are too weak and cowardly to do anything... except for one eager, bold and charismatic jedi. But slowly the war twists him into something much, much darker.
well if they went with this revan wouldn't have existed(as it would mean that anakin would have fufilled that quota before him)
Steven Irizarry
True that
Da1337Man except anakin was not charismatic lol
MightyReds
He was in The Clone Wars show.
MightyReds true but we are talking about an alternate univetse
That would've been very cool that his last name isn't "Skywalker" but in fact a nickname he gets from his amazing feats that he eventually adapts as his real name. Cool idea.
Yeah, Lars could be his real last name.
Luke and Leia Lars. LOL
We meet again, Carmine...
The circle is now complete
Actually that is probably a name given based upon force powers, perhaps it was kept simple to focus the storyline and keep things obvious
This is kinda just Revan's story honestly, but this would be a great story to tell
I was thinking this same thing
I guess
Which is why I love KOTOR so much. If the prequels were a lot like KOTOR but with a few changes of course then they would of been great! Also yes I know a bunch of fans like the prequels now and they think they are great which is fine but I disagree with that.
@@CometStar100 I find KOTOR tediously overhyped. And Revan even more so...
@@minicle426 How?
This breaks Obi Wan's description of Anakin in A New Hope.
maybe, but only from a certain point of view
This. Why would he suddenly betray the empire and save Luke in ROTJ if this guy was accurate in his description of Vader lol
@@MattMillwardUK Because he couldn't stand the sight of his son being tortured. People can have a change of heart, that isn't a hole in this alternative. It is a lot more plausible that Darth Vader would make a split second decision to save his son, that be stupidly and obviously duped into turning to the dark side and at no point realising that he had been duped. Prequels Anakin is not the same character as Darth Vader and his evolution into him is not believable.
Moreso it breaks the preamble to their duel on the DS1, the "when I left you" line makes much more sense if they were close partners as master and apprentice throughout their lives who only came to blows in the closing days of the war, rather than if he just randomly dipped of his own volition before the war even started.
Watch The Clone Wars series. It gives a whole lot of depth to the character of Anakin Skywalker, and he is portrayed way better, how he has much anger inside of him and has tried to satisfy it multiple times
I agree. I really like that the prequels and especially the Clone Wars emphasized that the flaws of the Jedi order contributed to the fall of the Republic and the rise of the Empire and Vader.
Definitely agree. You really see in TCW how he begins to lose faith in the Jedi.
I 100% wish they would have continued that series man. It was so much better than Rebels. I loved how gritty it really could be. I feel Rebels is more childish.
The grittiness of the Clone Wars definitely was amazing - though I really enjoy Rebels too now. It started off quite childish, but has gradually become darker and has some great storylines.
Still a shame the CW series ended before being truly completed.
Nintendonator3000 Thank you. Haha exactly. Has Rebels gotten darker? I'll have to check out the episodes I've missed. But yes, it is a shame Clone Wars was never completed.
It's already mostly like this, just deeper. He wasn't tricked, he was morally conflicted.
Episode I establishes Anakin is a moral person, but he falls in love with the concept of glory from a young age... the pod-race is actually important to his character, believe it or not. Think about how that moment of victory, praise, and sense of self-importance in a child's life will measure up to years of Obi-Wan's lectures and negativity concerning Anakin's arrogant and adventurous tendencies.
Episode II establishes he thinks democracy is ineffective, and shows how his gluttony for glory affects his character growth as a Jedi. He hates Obi-Wan for constantly denying him the thing he craves most, and falls in love with Padme for consistently praising him for his "maturity"... heh-heh.
Episode III establishes he believes the Jedi don't recognize what he thinks is right, thus motivating him to destroy them when he sees their hypocrisy is endangering the fate of the galaxy and he has an opportunity to end it; and then when he lost everything, he gave into the the philosophical inclinations Palpatine suggested.
Vader reveals to Luke that he intends to destroy the Emperor, as he revealed to Padme when she confronted him. Why would he want to destroy the Emperor? Because he knows he's been had - but when he loses everything, he sees no other reason to uphold morality, so he gives up his morality for the Sith philosophy of absolute control, despite having the capacity for good hidden deep down within himself, beneath his pride and anger. Palpatine's deception was more or less something Vader knew was a lie, but he chose to believe it as such anyway because he lost the will to fight against it, and he had no other ideology to keep living for.
The continuity errors are another thing entirely. It's as simple as Leia didn't remember Padme, but Senator Organa's wife, who was her mother as far as she knew. We don't know she also didn't die later on when Leia was still very young. Vader did hunt down and destroy the Jedi, it's just Obi-Wan made that sound interesting enough to be a whole movie and it ended up being a minor plot point in the story of Vader's corruption, when in the heads of countless fans it was envisioned as an epic story of its own for years before the prequels were even conceived.
The prequels as they are enhance the original stories when properly understood. Vader's story is enhanced because it shows that in Episode IV, he's more of a powerful lackey only motivated to take revenge on Obi-Wan, otherwise just going along with orders as an angry, embittered, and defeated character. With Vader's morality gone, his only motivation was glory, and the only way he could get that in his circumstances was going along with the Emperor's setup and becoming the face of the Empire; and in Episode V his sudden burst in focus, ruthless determination, and murderous tendencies sprouts from his desperation to find his son, because he had no motivation in life before knowing he had a son - only bitterness, anger, and regret.
The prequels also showcase Vader's pride, in a way that makes sense for how he resisted denouncing the Dark Side the moment his son suggested he do so, and why he got offended at officers who belittled his prowess with the Force. It was all personal for him, not because he was a cardboard cutout badass conqueror. Every scene with Vader in it is so much better with the prequels as they are because you can see Vader's emotion behind his mask... he has the same speech and the same mannerisms as the Anakin from the prequels, and you can understand every choice he makes so much better. It's beautiful.
This video more or less is clinging to a perception of Vader that the prequels disproved. It's not that the prequels didn't go with Vader's character, but that they shifted perception of his character to a place many people don't like. It works very well with the character and continuity, and humanizes Vader. I love it, I think it makes Vader relatable. He was originally a very moral character who became corrupted by real world ideologies we see every day; practiced by celebrities, public figures, and in many different normal every day social situations where people become accustomed to praise only to have it taken away and go crazy, abandoning morality for their version of glory. I think people like the idea of an iconic ruthless badass more than a vulnerable human being who got to that iconic status through failure, suffering, and making mistakes.
Chris Merritt Yes, he was tricked. Palpatine acted like he knew how to save Padmé when he didn't.
Vader the White
No, Palpatine confessed he didn't know right before Anakin pledged himself to his teachings. He had no other option. He couldn't go back to the Jedi Order because he just pretty much helped murder Mace Windu, and he thought the Jedi were screwed up in the head anyway, so he saw an opportunity to take them all out and took it. The whole save Padme thing was a moral compromise Palpatine provided to get Anakin in the same room with Mace Windu as he tried to assassinate the Chancellor and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt the Jedi way was bogus to Anakin. Anakin says to Mace right before he lops off his arm, "It's not the Jedi way, he must live". If he was tricked into anything, it was into saving Palpatine from Mace. But he knew Palpatine lied to him before he became Darth Vader. His moral perspective is what turned him against the Jedi and motivated him to help Palpatine build the Empire.
Chris Carbine great analysis. you had many great points
He doesn't want glory, he just wants to be treated properly, have Obi-Wan be proud, and keep the ones he loves safe
I'm pretty sure Luke meant their mother.
A lot of that sounds more like Revan than Anakin.
He should of been more like Revan. I’ve always had the theory that Kotor’s plot is what the developers of the game imagined when hearing Obi-Wan’s description of The Clone Wars. After the prequels came out, they just changed the names for characters and events around and turned that plot into a video game series.
@@patrickmaybe2197 hmm.. Not impossible!
revan is worse than kylo ren
@@jm-sh6qr in what way?
@@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026 two lightsabers, two force ghosts, simultaneously sith and jedi so he doesn't have to pick a side so you know kinda dumb
Based on the line from yoda to Luke. “Don’t underestimate the power of the emperor or suffer the same fate as your father”. I always interpreted that as anakin tried fighting the emperor and got his ass handed to him. Which is what left him damaged and needing his suit to live.
Here is another idea.Padme doesn't die because she ''lost the will to live''and she founds the Rebellion
*starts the Rebellion
And she gives away Luke and Leia to keep them out of harm's way while spreading the rumor that the child was born dead
+Kenjamin Really?I thought that was just a theory
I always thought of it as Sidious saved Vader by killing Padme... Wanting his offsprings to be Darth Vader's replacement.
She actually founded the Rebellion with Moth Mothma and Baal Organa in Ep III.
I like the idea, but I still believe Anakin's full transformation into Vader should still come at the end like it does in Episode III.
Minus the "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" Part
Or if you're going to have the NOOOOOO part, use the French dvd translated version as it sounds a lot more like a man in both physical and emotional agony VS what we got in the final cut.
Yeah I prefer the Obi-Wan beat him and left him for dead.
Other than that this story would of been better, I'm no prequel hater, but its hard not to see the flaws.
The only thing yours lacked was Maul, but you could of made him the "Dooku" of your story.
Even maybe have him get the better of Anakin a few times so Anakin sees the power of the dark side.
Sorry, but I just don't think it's the general story in the prequels that's bad. The general story that's already there is, to me at least, fascinating and could make for an incredible set of films. However, they weren't executed in any good way. Your pitch, while not bad at all, could just as easily turn out the same level of quality as the prequels.
yep and i'm more satisfied with the story we got...even if it was slightly clumsy
Temp John I wouldn’t say slightly
@dark star I'd say that this effectively shifts the tone tbh. A lot of the smaller changes here I think are more important as they put the focus onto what might've already been there but wasn't noticed as much.
Lucas is fantastic with the big picture and thematic punches, not as great with the details (and dialogue)
I want to see his pitch as the new canon of the sequels
I appreciate your thoughtfulness and enthusiasm!
But...I like the more internal drama that played out in the Prequels which explained Anakin's destined "fall from grace".
I didn't interpret it as just "good kid turns bad", I saw it as a young boy that never got over his fear of loss; and that fear was manipulated over many years by a very powerful predator, and turned into one of the most powerful displays of anger and hate. That culmination of anger and hate created one of the most powerful beings in the known galaxy of Star Wars, a Sith lord, twisted in psyche and flesh, forever motivated to make others hurt as much as he did.
Thanks!
If the Clone War in this story is the war between the Clones and the Jedi, how does it make sense for Anakin to have fought alongside Obi-Wan during the war, as stated in A New Hope.
+UNITDW It's never explicitly stated that they fought alongside one another in the war. Obi-Wan just suggested that Luke's father fought in the war, and he also did. Not that they fought together.
Considering the lie he's telling, it only makes sense that he would also make it sound like he and Anakin fought for the same cause, but he never actually says it. He's very vague.
EC Henry I don't know man I have to say that you're kind of stretching it he does say that Anakin fought in the Clone Wars he does say he was a good pilot and a cunning Warrior and he does say he was his friend I think he's all but saying straight out I fought alongside Anakin
A. DeLeon I agree hey brother those edited videos with Obi Wan having flashbacks are great.
didnt you see clone wars movie? they were on geonosis chasing dooku
Robd collector they're talking about how they would rewrite the prequels to make them fit better in the saga.
Anakin wouldn't have turned so drastically like that. Anakin wanted power, but wouldn't have just given up years of Jedi training just like that because Palpatin says "you can lead my clones". Anakin goes from Proud Young Jedi Boy, to Dark Evil Jedi Slaying Monster in one scene? not likely.
Well, the one thing he wants more than anything is to the end the brutality and destruction of the clone wars. And he sees the opportunity to finally bring an end to it, once and for all. Vader is also someone who does what needs to be done, no matter the cost. Naturally, the change from Anakin to Vader should happen slowly over the prequel saga. Palpatine revealing himself would be the straw that broke the camels back for Anakin.
Anakin would need to have an established anger at the Jedi Order's uselessness; once that had been established and built up, a simple sequence where Palpatine tells Anakin "psst, I know of a way to by-pass this bullshit and get REAL order dealt out, you dig?" then you just give Anakin a little time, like, a couple days, to mull things over. So really, the prequels already got it pretty close, but the motivation of it JUST being for the sake of Padme is bullshit; not the kind of thing that would motivate future-Vader to commit treason; the only thing that would motivate him that much would be decades of frustration with the Jedi Order's shit; then the plot-beats as it stands make perfect sense.
Samuel Wallace something like ashoka being killed or something
David Rodriguez I don't know; Vader exhibits a desocial thought pattern, even when he isn't killing people, just his overall approach, he's more worried about the mission than he about protecting individual life ... the dude was willing to sacrifice himself for the sake of Luke joining the Dark Side and fulfilling Sidious' wish. I don't think - even pre-dark-turn that he's the personality type to be triggered by any one person's death, it would have to be more of an incremental series of small logical decisions that eventually coalesce into his decision to switch sides ... sure, the transition would get ugly and put him through the wringer, but it would be motivated by principle, not friends ... at least, that would be believable based on David Prowse's and James Earl Jones' Vader performance.
The problem, really, is that Anakin started Episode III as too good a guy. He should have started the film as a hardened, bitter, cynical warrior, already on the edge. He's grown disillusioned with democracy, and favors the peace and order that fascism promises. Then Palpatine offers him a massive share in that power.
is it just me or does this sound like an edited version of the knights of the old republic backstory replacing Revan with Anakin
You forgot the most important detail.
No Jar Jar
Walter Walrus yes jar jar
Darth Jar Jar
No jar jar=no Ewoks=no Porgs
wait wot "too much screen time" They were in like 5 shots in the entire TLJ movie wtf dude
wait wot This is disney star wars. Not everything has to be relevant to the story
I really do like this theory. A couple things struck me upon reading the Darth Jar Jar theory that I think still apply here, and one way or another would have improved the story.
A big qualm people had with the prequels is the haphazard placement of Dooku, who turns out to be the next Sith Lord we didn't know about. People argue that maybe he was just a quick cover up of Lucas' original plan to make the phantom menace be someone much more clearly "elusive," as Obi Wan puts it in the first movie. Now I'm not saying it should have been Jar Jar, but there did need to be SOMEONE we had known, and would completely blindside us upon the revelation of him turning. He then fights Yoda the way Dooku did, being his force equal and opposite, and either dies there or continues to remain at large, only to be killed by Anakin later as an act of totalitarian justice and security.
Dooku, however, still needs to be the spearhead of the Separatist movement. But we need more back story on him. He should have been mentioned at least a little bit in The Phantom Menace, by his padawan Qui Gon. Qui Gon is only subtly made to be at odds with the wishes of the Jedi Council, and young Anakin needs to see this from him, the man who plans to train him. Dooku also needs to be set up in this movie as the wise master Jedi that he was, but that he also left the Order, which was a huge blow to them. That way we get some coherence and continuity to both Qui Gon and Dooku, with their radical free thinking ideals. Obi Wan heeds the will of the Jedi Order closely, but still looks up to his master's wisdom very much. It's important to establish that he truly considers Qui Gon to be wise, regardless of any shortcomings he perceives there. Qui Gon is then killed by the Sith assassin Darth Maul, and Anakin is left to be trained by Obi Wan. Whether Maul dies here or not, I really don't know. He'd make a fine placeholder as the Sith apprentice, but as many critics of TPM have said, there was no mystery about it. He was not so much a phantom as he was an attack dog. Nothing particularly foreboding there.
In Attack of the Clones, the Senate decides to commission an army of clones to combat the rising unrest in the Outer Rim: systems leaving the security of the Galactic Republic in favor of freedom from the increasingly totalitarian regime under Chancellor Palpatine. Again, I'm not sure exactly what the conflict there should be, I'm halfway between your idea and what actually happened.
But at the end of this movie we come to the startling realization, through one way or another, that Dooku is the leader of this movement. Once a revered Jedi master, second almost to none is his knowledge of the Force and with his skill with a lightsaber, suddenly he has resurfaced as a traitor to the Republic. Obi Wan is shaken by this revelation, due to his master's opinion of him, and knowing his wisdom. How could such a man fall? Anakin is torn as well, feeling hatred for this man who was held in such high regard become turncoat. He is also at odds with the will of the council, who is reluctant in their involvement, but still assisting in the efforts of the war. Anakin's foundation of faith began on a poor note, both knowing Qui Gon did not agree with the Order and also feeling frustration at their ambiguity in restoring order.
In RotS, it has to culminate just right. The Phantom Menace will be killed by Anakin, and he will feel completely justified. This begins his true path into descent, feeling that victory is within his power, and having accomplished what the Jedi could not. Perhaps he is reprimanded for his action, further angering him. Obi Wan will be sent to deal with Dooku in a final push against the remainder of the Separatists (instead of yet another shaky character, Grievous), and Anakin will see this as even more hypocrisy from the Order.
Anakin begins confiding heavily in the Chancellor, who has befriended him and gained his trust above all others. Anakin sees him as a symbol of resolution and order like he has long yearned for. I think your theory takes over from here very well on Anakin's front.
Now the tricky part of this movie comes with the final duel between Kenobi and Dooku. Kenobi must win, but instead of being met with Sith-like malice and defiance, Obi Wan finds himself holding a dying old man in his arms, the way he did his master in TPM. Dooku then praises Obi Wan, delivering similar lines to the ones he says in the current AotC scene. Says Qui Gon always spoke so highly of him, and now he sees why. Tells him he fought brilliantly, and reminds him of his apprentice who he misses dearly. But here there has to be a revelation. Suddenly Obi Wan is realizing he didn't just strike down the Lord of the Sith, but in fact has just killed his master's master, nothing more. A man who stood by his unshakable ideals, even when they came into direct conflict with the will of the Senate and the Jedi Order. And then Obi Wan, surveying the waning battle around him, comes to the terrible conclusion: he has just ended a war in which they've all been played. Dooku was not the villain he was made out to be. They were not the protectors of peace and order, they had been the instruments of destruction and totalitarian control all along. They'd all been played by the puppet master, the truly insidious Dark Lord of the Sith, whom they unwittingly fought for. Kenobi flees, unsure of what to do. He is reported a deserter, and he relays all he has learned to the Jedi Order. Trusting his wise judgement, they make a last minute effort to spring into action, seemingly turning against the republic. But they are crushed under foot by the overwhelming forces of the newly formed Empire, which sprang up right under their noses. Lead by none other than the champion of the Jedi, the Chosen One of the Force, and now...the terrible Darth Vader.
The rest falls to your theory, you've pretty much fleshed it out better than I feel like doing right now.
But the main plot point George Lucas completely and wholly missed is the turn at the climax of RotS. The whole perspective of the film and the audience is completely flipped on its head: the looming threat of the insurgents under the Separatist banner were not faceless evil people, nor was Dooku a villain. He saw true good and followed it as Qui Gon did after him. To put it less than eloquently, the audience needed to have a gut wrenching moment of "Oh my God. Dooku and the Separatists were the Rebellion."
We knew Palpatine was evil, but even then, we've all been had. The separatists limp off farther into the Outer Rim, to slowly regroup their forces until the events of the original trilogy. Obi Wan now sympathizes with them, having eventually learned to follow in Dooku and Qui Gon's steps. Yoda survived the massacre of the Jedi uprising as well, hiding himself away. But this way there is no ambiguity about it. There were clone wars. The empire rose from it. Anakin felt justified in completing what the Jedi were too hesitant to do. He sides with the one unshakable person who rewards him for his actions. The Jedi rise up against them and Vader then feels no guilt in stamping them down. In his mind, Obi Wan is seduced by Dooku and started the Jedi uprising, so he is a traitor as well.
nice. it fits with the 'good and evil is a point of view' thing as well.
Mitch ZImmerman i like your idea for the prequels but who would you make the phantom menace? Also are there 3 sith now?
miguelnuva well...like I said. needs work. Perhaps maul remains the phantom, I really don't know. everyone complained about how easily he died. The problem is, these ideas come from me mulling over the Darth Jar Jar theory, in which Jar Jar fills that void perfectly.
Mitch ZImmerman So more or less the phantom menace is built as a friend to the group and the turns as a shock. Does the turn happy over 1 movie or in the 2nd film.
miguelnuva so dooku would be a false Sith. if maul were to live, we would be led to believe dooku is his master. this revelation comes in the second, as the clone wars erupt. But after their fight in the third, Obi Wan would find him cradling this old man in his arms, the same way he did Qui Gon. That's where, through dialogue, we would learn he was truly just a Jedi who left, and THAT is where obi wan has the startling realization that he didn't just kill the Lord of the Sith. Perhaps Dooku even knows the identity of the Sith, having foreseen it. He says this in the canon version of AotC. I don't know whether he means it or not, but it would have been more profound. anyway, that's how obi wan learns what has really happened, and helps to stage the Jedi rebellion against Sidious, and Vader/the 501st wipe them out.
This Rewrite is litterally 80% the set up to Knights of the Old Republic. Anakin is Revan, the Separatists are the Mandalorians, and so on.
It also has the same two flaws almost every other rewrite has: 1.) Some Major misstep that is missed/overlooked that would break the continuity somehow (Here Obi Wan plainly States that he fought *With* Anakin in the Clone Wars) and it sounds good on paper and would never work on Film. Had the 3 Prequels been one long, 4 hour Movie it might have worked, but any break in the middle disrupts the story.
Plus it is over dramatic as shit.
Agreed Wyatt
Makes you wonder why Disney just wont make that a thing (the Mandalorian wars), would sell like hotcakes and lessens the impact the the word "prequel" has in the Star Wars community
***** The answer is obvious. Disney cares more about money than pleasing the fans. The Mandalorian Wars and Reva's era in general is a heavy fan favorite of people who aren't little kids that spend their parent's money. It is easier to sell stupid shit like Helicopter Lightsabers than Devastating wars like the Mandalorian Wars and the Jedi Civil War.
or maybe because the mandos are overrated boring pieces of worldbuilding that are only liked because of fanboy wish - fufillment
Steven Irizarry Still better then another sith jedi thing, it has been done to death and it is getting very boring and stale
The idea flows nicely, and I like the idea of putting the "corrupted by power and success" part more in the foreground. But I think the original idea of anakin as basically the "fallen angel" is more powerful. The problem, as with most things in the prequels, was the execution, not the idea itself. I've always said that Episode 1 should have been a prologue, with three movies left for grown anakin's ark (which really makes the point of the prologue debatable, but it has its merits). That way, the middle film, somewhere during the clone wars, could show the "angel" being tempted by the dark side, showing his first real evil act, but recovering and staying on the right path (temporarily). Then of course, the third film goes all downhill from there.
Actually, the character of Anakin as presented in the prequels did have some of those traits; what really sidetracked him was all that "Jedi aren't allowed to fall in love and get married because personal attachments are bad!" nonsense. What should have been the main corrupting factor was his whole "I'll bet I could do a far better job running the galaxy than all of *you* losers have!" attitude he maintained all the way into The Empire Strikes Back. The prequels did very well indeed at showing what was wrong with the Old Republic and the Jedi and why Anakin might figure a Skywalker Dynasty would be far more effective government.
Another factor the prequels could have handled better: the original trilogy broadly hinted that the ancient Jedi Order's fatal mistake was its decision to go on the offensive in the Clone Wars. Yoda specifically told Luke Jedi were always to use the Force as a defense, never as an offensive weapon; Jedi were supposed to be guardians, not commanders and leaders and rulers. This would also tie into Anakin's corruption: if the Jedi started asking "Well why *don't* we take command? When politicians are being unreasonable, a little Jedi mind trick here and there should straighten them out, and they'll be none the wiser; they'll even believe they freely decided to do things our way!" and Anakin started thinking "Not a bad idea, but they specifically ought to do things *my* way since I'm the Chosen One and arguably the greatest Jedi who's ever lived," you can see where a very real temptation which has been the downfall of more than a few governments and individuals in real life could just as easily have ensnared and dragged to their ruin so many prominent movers and shakers of the Star Wars universe.
My Star Wars journey began when I first saw The Phantom Menace with my Dad in 1999 when I was 6 years old, from that moment on Star Wars changed my life forever. I enjoy the prequels for what they are instead of hating them for what they're not.
If more fans were like you, the Star Wars community would be a better place!
alan simba That's amazing! I guess this is a generation thing, I'm glad to be a 90's kid :)
Yeah, good for you bro! Too many of the prequel bashers don't stop to realize that TPM was the movie that a lot of you kids saw in theaters first before ANH.
Zach Jersey Star Wars is my life while there are many other films I love like Blade Runner and The Terminator, Star Wars has always come first for me because at that time I never seen anything like it.
Me too, sir, I saw ANH, Empire, and Jedi at the age of 6. The sad part was I missed the Star Wars toy buzz, because it was 1990 lol.
I feel like that would kinda ruin his return to the light from vader.
Not really. He just realizes what he is doing only brings chaos, and that no movement that makes him kill his own son can truly be good.
the only problem is though that vaders turn back to the light because of his love of padme and luke being the only person he has left to remind him of his past and the biggest mistake he made is much more compelling than for him to just one day up and say maybe what im doing is wrong, which is what this video is making vaders turn seem to be.
BrandonDog5K I think this is only addressing part of episode two and all of three. Two maybe could set up the good in Anakin and his love for Padme and being just an all around good guy, but when war is at the republics doorstep at the end of episode two, I think that is where there there could be the tragedy; choosing war and the “good” of the galaxy over his wife. Then four episodes later, after all the wrongs that he had committed, he sees that the torture that happens to his son and the murdering of so many, that the chance to save his son and be redeemed in his sons eyes would finally push him to reconsider.
I think EC Henry missed one of, if not the most important, trait of Anakin Skywalker. His heart.
This trait is so damn important that The Father on Mortis died with his last words warning Anakin of his heart.
Anakin started out as a very empathic individual who was able to relate to the common people. This may be due to his upbringing as a slave on a poor desolate planet and also being nurtured by his mother.
Anakin did things out of love for people, even if it meant going to the edge of the dark side. He's filled with passion, but that passion can turn to blind anger. In the Clone Wars, Master Luminara warns Anakin of his struggle to let go of people (this was when Ahsoka was trapped on Geonosis and Anakin was hard-pressed to save her at any cost).
And even Yoda advises that he learn how to let go of people he feared to lose.
But Anakin's heart is what led him to the dark side, and ironically, it is his heart that more or less brought him back to the light.
I think my biggest issue with Anakin in the prequels (besides his romantic dialogue towards Padme :P)... my biggest issue is his blind obedience towards Palpatine when instructed to commit genocide against the Jedi.
Anakin didn't seem to have a moments hesitation murdering Jedi Padawans and YOUNGLINGS left and right. And that feels contrived because, as I said before, this is a man with a very big heart.
It's strange that he would not question Palpatine by saying, "Why? Why is it necessary for me to kill my colleagues in order to save Padme? Isn't there a more peaceful way to save her? And, you know how to save Padme right? You're not just lying to me so that I carry out your dirty work for your OWN PERSONAL MEANS? Right, Master???"
I mean once Palpatine ordered him to commit genocide, I expected some refusal from Anakin because that's his character. Anakin does not attack innocents; he attacks those who attack the innocents.
I've thought about how I would fix Anakin's betrayal of the Jedi Order. And what I think could have been shown is the overall impact the Jedi and the Clone War had across the galaxy. This war ravaged civilizations that didn't even want to be a part of it in the first place. They touch on this in the Clone Wars, that wherever the Jedi go... they bring the war with them.
And the Clone War itself is like Vietnam or even the American Civil War...it's a War of Attrition. There's no purpose of fighting in it. All it's about is having two grand armies create infinite number of disposable troops to attack each other's systems all because they can't agree on legislation.
And Anakin Skywalker would've been one of the "smart troops" who realizes this nonsense and questions why the hell they are even fighting in this war. The Jedi will answer by saying they must eradicate the Sith's influence once and for all. And some Jedi Knights will even go to such lengths as to napalm or blow up entire cities just to ensure the enemy troops can't come back (watch Apocalypse Now or Full Metal Jacket).
In fact, it would've been pretty cool to have an Apocalypse Now inspired Star Wars film with Anakin going through what Martin Sheen's character did.
Apocalypse Now showed the hypocrisy of the American troops, and the same could've been done to the Jedi. These soldiers who are built up as heroes to the outside world are actually something else entirely on the battlefield.
And once Anakin realizes this truth, he would become disillusioned. He will see the Jedi Order for its lies and corruption and attempt to bring it down by following Palpatine's revolution "to bring peace and order to the galaxy" (aka the Empire).
Now, of course, I would still break Anakin's heart by killing off his mother and also break him physically by having him burn to a crisp. But, the biggest thing that needed work was Anakin's motivation to commit genocide against the Jedi Order.
Exactly.
Anakin wasn’t the villain he was the victim
I'm sure the massive number of people he murdered were the victims actually
Kask Daxxe and the young boy that had his mind slowly twisted by the sith wasn’t?
He was hypnotized
AlexStealsMemes , right? The whole reason for the Prequels was for Lucas to show how the whole dang saga is about how the tragedy of Anakin Skywalker has impacted the generations of his family. Not about showing how badass Vader was, and why he is so mysterious.
*insert V for Vendetta speech here*
Wait in his “improved version of the prequels” he never explained what happened to Vader’s face.
he still burns in mustafa.
I'd actually like to think that in the light saber duel Anakin is wearing as a different mask, then obi wan slices through his mask, leaving him burned and scarred all over his face, palatine makes him a new one then it goes from there.
"What if everyone praises Anakin from the beginning making him vastly loved getting lots of girls and everyone loving him makes him egotistical to the point he vainly loves himself . . ."
So you want to turn Anakin into Justin Bieber? . . .
**Vader Voice** NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Elvichu True :D
IKR (I'm totally obsessed and fangirly over AniVader sooo...)
Uh... he's already Justin Bieber so it's not like anything can hurt.
When I watch Anakin beat the shit out of Clovis, I like to imagine myself as Anakin and imagine Justin Bieber as Clovis (and the Chinese woman I love as Padme :D ) :3
No, what your idea is NOTHING radical. In fact, it's EXACTLY the plot of the prequel as is. Except the prequel focused much on CGI and action rather than actually tell a story clearly and consistently.
The delivery of the prequel as is does not have a clear antagonist we can relate to because there isn't a focus. Things just happens without reason and explanation, and Anakin just went through your plot FASTER because he has less time on screen actually doing character development---as he is more just action less character.
What I mean by "radical" is that you can't just edit the existing movies and get the ideas I came up with. They require a complete re-write, even if the basic story is very similar (because I think the basic story of the Prequels is quite good in general).
But yes, in general, the changes aren't completely different from what we saw, and that's intentional. Just a re-imagining of what already happened, rather than starting from scratch.
Wow change Naboo to Alderaan... so deep, much radical
***** You're confusing set pieces and action with character development and story consistency.
espadaFCB because the story did not alter at all, just more drawn out, more nuanced. The overall lore and story did not change at all, only with more relatable characters and more consistency.
Depends on what you ,ran by story. I mean the plot did not change at all, the setting barely changed, the character traits didn't change, the only things changed "significantly" are the details, they become more relevant to the plot and the consistency of events are better.
DarthAlphaTheGreat Which would only make the movies longer...forcing us to sit there watching the stupid premise of sepratist trade embargos and some douche trying to find an excuse to be a dick for about 7 hours.
Prequals are really good and 3 is my fav movie ever
dark star wrong
This takes out the entire emotional impact of order 66, the love the fans have for the Jedi order, and some of the most infamous characters and battles in all of star wars
Ahsoka tano, anyone?
He is talking about the prequel films by themselves (without any outside information). The problem with the prequels is that they rely too much on outside sources to build the story (comics, books, and tv shows) while the Original Trilogy did well with just their three movies.
Just watch revenge of the sith 3 times
Josh Taylor lol
Josh Taylor yep or recreate your own shitty canon with legos
khi coolblast what does that even mean?
Temp John it means what it means
khi coolblast im not even joking i still don't get it, what is your lego combination then?
> Vader isn't a tragic hero, he's an unwavering force of evil.
Says who? That's the image that he wants to portray, but have you seen episodes 5 and 6? The whole point of his character arc is that he's actually a "victim" rather than a "villain." And thus his redemption becomes the conclusion to the trilogy.
No offense but all of these, "how to make the prequels better" CZcams theories are just total shit and fall flat even in comparison to the actual movies that we got (which should tell you something considering how much people want us to believe that they suck); the more RLM imitators come out of the woodwork, the more the prequels actually develop a genuine fanbase, as true Star Wars fans begin to realize that these arguments are extremely dated and that the movies may not be as bad as we've been led to believe (especially in light of the larger franchise).
Very much agreed on Anakin. What makes Anakin's story so tragic is that he was a great, wonderful, heroic, and genuinely good guy. His turn to the Dark Side was the destruction of that good man, and it only works if it's sudden. There can be plenty of build-up, but the idea is that Anakin basically has to die. It is a moment of ruination when he chooses to side with Palpatine, and his fate is sealed when he burns on the lava shores of Mustafar. That is when Anakin Skywalker died, and shortly after, Darth Vader was truly born. That is far more tragic than the story of how a jerk became more of a jerk over time. It also fits perfectly with Darth Vader's story of redemption, which simply does not work if Vader thinks he is somehow on the right side.
I also agree immensely on all these "how to fix the prequels" videos. Take, for example, the "What if (X Prequel) were good" videos. His Episode II version, for example, only has three action scenes, two of which are completely random and unrelated to the story. But a lot of us hate the prequels so much that we look at any alternate fan version and assume they're better. Sadly, most of these alternative visions are simply not that grand or entertaining. Some, like this one, are also really vague, and do not fix the prequels so much as make completely different films. In reality, though, all the prequels needed were just a bit less CGI exhibitionism, a bit more banter and character from Anakin, some more reasonable dialogue, and a few fixed plot holes here and there, most of which can be fixed with just a little extra dialogue. After that, you have some solid films while still retaining the brilliant story Lucas was trying to tell. Though maybe less Jar Jar too.
Dantius well, about "genuinely good guy" he was a good guy, but honestly he was rather immature and was not given the right attention. Which is why he became easy prey for the dark side. Considering how blind the Jedi order had been.
James Bond
That's true, but those are just character flaws. We all have those. But due to a combination of those character flaws and environmental factors, the good man who was Anakin Skywalker was destroyed. I'd say his flaws were a big head, his fierce independence, and perhaps even his love.
The main problem with the prequels is not the core concept, but the execution in regard to script, overuse of CGI, bad humor, weird hard-to-believe romance, corny gungans, mostly pointless episode I with useless characters like Qui Gonn, Darth Maul, and Jar Jar. Perhaps it also could have involved Alderaan a bit more so we have more of a sense of where Leia was going to grow up, although this isn't super important I guess.
People talk about fixing the core plot, but that isn't really the problem imo.
I agree with the nixing of the """tragic vader""" bullshit. The entire idea of Anakin being a tragic person is awful, and dis-serves the persona of Vader. The feeling of even """dark anakin""" in ep3 versus the feeling of Vader proper in ep4.....they just feel like entirely different beings. The REAL tragedy is that Lucas sat on his fat ass growin' his gobbler for 17 goddamn years, instead of immediately taking up the task of doing ep 1-3. And as even Lucas found out, just throwing things onto the plate of 3d artists because it CAN be, didn't make for a good movie. He himself said it best after seeing the completed Ep1: "..........I think I went a little.......overboard." If ep1-3 had been made just a few years after ep6 was done, it would have been an entirely different movie, particularly since Lucas did NOT have a 8 year old boy at that time like he did when Ep 1 was nearly done, and with which he desperately wanted to impress said 8 year old boy (enter the shit character "who must not be named" and all his clown-ass goofiness that ruined the entirety of ep 1). But that's just my info.
I’m actually working on a rewrite of the prequels, as well as the sequels.
In my version of Phantom Menace, Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan (who aren’t master and apprentice, just two Jedi assigned on a mission together since it was established in the OT that Yoda was Obi-Wan’s master) go to Alderaan, which replaces Naboo but is still pretty much the same but with a different name, because there’s rumors of a secret invasion going on there. They fight some battle droids and escape with Padmé, who’s a 16-year-old senator instead of the queen, and end up Tatooine when their ship is damaged. It’s there that they meet Anakin Lars, a 16-year-old moisture farmer and a skilled pilot and podracer who dreams of exploring the galaxy someday. Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan sense how incredibly strong Anakin is in the Force, but they’re not sure if they can trust him yet, so they use the aliases Ben Kenobi and Luke Jinn. Padmé on the other hand trusts Anakin and tells him her real name, a first step in building up their relationship. Anakin brings him to the moisture farm he lives on (the same one Luke did) and they meet Anakin’s older brother Owen and mother Shmi. Qui-Gon begins to really like Anakin and wants to train him as his padawan, while Obi-Wan still doesn’t trust him or like him. They soon reveal to Anakin and his family who they really are and convince Anakin to come with them to become a Jedi. Anakin maybe still does the podrace but doesn’t build 3-P0, and they leave to go to Coruscant.
Eventually, they return to Alderaan and Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan fight Maul, while Anakin is there because he had a vision of them dying and snuck on board their ship to Alderaan to help them. Qui-Gon still gets stabbed and killed by Maul, which enrages Anakin because I’d have him and Qui-Gon develop a deep father/son bond like in the actual Phantom Menace. So Anakin unleashes the Force in an incredibly powerful way and blasts Maul towards Obi-Wan with the Force and Obi-Wan cuts Maul’s legs off, but I’d have him get robot legs and still be a villain in the prequel trilogy. Anakin then passes out from the exhaustion of strongly using the Force for the first time, and Qui-Gon dies in Obi-Wan’s arms, with his last request be that Obi-Wan trains Anakin in his place, which Obi-Wan agrees. But Obi-Wan at first blames Anakin for Qui-Gon’s death and in episode 3 Anakin learns this and this is one of the things that causes him to turn to the dark side.
Anakin wakes up a little later and cries over Qui-Gon’s death, but Padmé’s there to comfort him. During Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan’s fight with Maul, Padmé and the gungans would fight and capture Nute Gunray, establishing peace for the surface people of Alderaan and the gungans. At the end of the movie, Anakin crafts his lightsaber that would eventually be passed on to Luke, and as part of his initiation into the Jedi Order, he has to change his last name to keep his family safe. He goes with the nickname his brother called him: Skywalker.
What do you all think?
I like it.
I honestly just imagine the prequels as how R 2 d 2 remembers them
That's probably true
How is that again?
Do you mean like that his memory was wiped at the end of Revenge of the Sith, and that he doesn't remember them? Because if so I think you meant 3PO, not R2.
Padme's death is the thing that annoyed me the most of the prequels. She died because she lost the will to live? Straight Bullshit.
They should have had Palpatine siphon off Padme's life force to keep Vader alive.
Khaleeq Sattaar El, II Padme really died in childbirth, The Emperor only told Vader that to guilt him into submission.
Nick Becerra in the movie the droid said that there was nothing physically wrong with her.
I like the theory that Padme dies to give Luke and Leia the force to make through childbirth
maybe palpatine drained the life out of her
Your version actually sounds worse, in my opinion. Darth Vader was and has always been a tragic figure ever since the end of Return of the Jedi where he finally becomes good again. However, if he was never good and was always a power-hungry arsehole then it doesn't really make sense.
Yeah his redemption wouldn't make sense
Domzo D. I agree. Also, this suggested version minimizes one of the most important focuses of the prequels - the love story of Anakin and Padme and the problems that are caused by Anakin's fear and selfishness - and, instead, turns the movies into a story of a power-hungry warrior.
Domzo D. All power-hungry a-holes begin with a desire to "change the world" and "do good" and provide "free healthcare" and "free education"...
Tbf the Jedi code was a episode 1 thing, Anakin would of still been a good guy
Domzo D. He is tomt he is destinerade to bring order. He understandably wants too. A sixth lord whispers in his ears, he gets a taste of glory and power...
The prequels we got makes more sense Vader turning back to the light. At the end he did save the one he loved, his son and there was good in him just like Padme said before she died.
Some good ideas. About 10 years ago I thought I’d rewrite the prequels and put them together as a sort of an animated storyboard assembled with stills manipulated from movie frames and photographs. I never got too far into it as it proved incredibly time consuming. I have to say your idea is much better.
How to Make the Prequels Amazing in 5 Minutes 2 things; popcorn and a 64 inch flat screen TV.
I'm not kidding that's all they need.
And not forgetting the surround sound...
yep, I forgot the surround sound. but I mean come on doesn't it drive you crazy how many CZcamsrs tend to go around just pick apart a movie and change the original piece of art so that it becomes the movie they want rather than the movie that is? Id drives me crazy. I've heard all the cheap excuses as to why the prequels sucked but the only excuse anyone really has for why they didn't like the star wars prequels is this one.... "I just didn't like it." ... um ok go on not liking it and then just don't talk about it keep quiet so the master artist doesn't have to sell his right to paint over to Disney.
Okay, I will give you some reasons then, if it is okay.
Firstly the Phantom Menace doesn't really give anything to the plot, the only thing that it gives to the saga as a whole is that they found Anakin, that is about it. I admit it does have some good scenes, but it also have some that is really bad, for an instance when they finally get to Coruscant and then they debate politics. Which is also the root for the problems with Attack of the Clones. This movie is mostly politics, it does however initiate the Clone Wars and therefore evolves the saga as a whole. Otherwise it is very bad, Anakin goes through as a stalking whiny bitch who doesn't like sand. Lastly I will just mention Revenge of the Sith, it introduces quite a lot of plot holes and it progresses way too fast, we doesn't really feel Anakins fall, to me it seems rushed somehow. And personally the battle on Mustafar is over the top. At some point Obi-Wan and Anakin just spins their lightsabers around a few times and look at each other, I mean come on, would you really do that in a real combat?
It takes you 5 minutes to build a flat-screen? WOAH
I think I like the "Palpatine funds terrorists to gain power, double cross them and become a dictator" plot better.
the emperor could still have done that in this story tbh
That is pretty much what he does in this version.
You weren't paying attention
could still be implimented while changing anakins motivations to suit this new idea
He literally said that the part of Palpatine manipulating both sides can stay dude. The only thing that changes in this version is Anakin and the jedi's involvement in the war
Why does this sound so much better
Watched like 6 of your videos in a row.
Thought provoking and insightful!
HUGE FLAW
No. Your solution may account for Vader but it overlooks Anakin entirely. It doesn't allow for Anakin's redemption at the end in ROTJ by being such a "dark lord in training" the entire time. He has to still retain the personality that he does of ultimately being talented and ambitious, yes, but ultimately just a "company man". Someone who goes with whichever side of the Force he's practicing at the time. Don't forget that his good was maximized by the light side, and his no nonsense kill-whoever-disappoints-me attitude is only provided by the dark side. Also, the Jedi have to remain the complacent failures they are in the prequels also. A group of outdated navel gazers who were so far removed from affairs that they allowed the Sith to creep up behind them and slit their throats in the night.
I don't think that you fully understood the theory, or Anakin's redemption in ROTJ. He is not just a "company man" and that explaination of his motivations in the original trilogy would not make sense for the audience.
The idea here is that Anakin always wanted the galaxy to be at peace. However in the prequels he loses faith in the Jedi's ability to provide this, after seeing consistent inaction from them in the face of conflict. As time goes on, he becomes more and more hardened and fundamentalist to the sith principles, in order to use them to create peace as an ironfisted dictator. This explains his motivation in fighting the rebels, being partly to end the war as quickly as possible, and partly to hold on to the power which he has become fond of since he joined the dark side.
Then to go over his interactions with Luke in the original trilogy- he consistently tries to make Luke join the Dark
Side (so that he can end the war with the rebels far more quickly, while also not having to kill his own son). Vader's motivation here is that he thinks the Dark Side is necessary to rule effectively.
Now finally to Anakin's redemption at the end of ROTJ- Anakin , saves Luke maybe just because he was his son (that part has always been down to audience interpretation). However in his tired, injured and generally humbled state he finally sees in Luke: A Jedi who took action to do what was right, without sacrificing his Jedi morals for the most part, and did ultimately bring peace by confronting Vader and Sidious, and helping to overthrow Sidious. Luke has proven to Anakin what none of the Jedi he knew in the prequels could; That a Jedi could take action selflessly for the benefit of everyone else in the galaxy. His conversion from the Dark Side at this point is now completely logical, as his core desire for what is right (peace in the galaxy) now aligns with the Jedi.
prettymonsterofevil It doesn't sound like it makes sense when you put it like that but how many politicians and leaders in human history killed people in the name of their moral, political and/or religious aims. Cost of taking a life vs value of preferred societal outcome. It is a very real and understandable concept and motivation in humanity.
Not everything has to be "uhh the bad guy is the one that kills people". Also I was building off what he said in the video so no, Anakin would not be killing all the peacekeepers, he would be taking action in a war in which the peace keepers were not doing their job (from Anakins perspective). I watched the same video you did, and I did not understand in the slightest what your "HUGE FLAW" was, so I tried to explain in different words Anakins potential motivations outlined in the video. At this point I don't think I can help you if you didn't understand it. Just try watching the video again and maybe it will make sense for you this time.
prettymonsterofevil Ok I didn't realise you were a different commenter, I see now. I am not "lapping this up", it just makes sense as an idea, thats probably why the like ratio is so high on the video. The idea of the good still being in him, comes from his underlying desire for peace in the galaxy. In the prequels as they are Anakin already disagrees with the Jedi about their decisions. This video is just saying that it would make more sense to expand on this idea, and change it from "stroppy teenager Anakin rebels against his Jedi masters", to "Anakin character with strong moral motivations, has a fundamental difference of opinion with the Jedi".
However in my opinion this motivation makes way more sense than the "manipulated into the dark side" narrative. In the prequels as they are, Anakin has no reason not to kill Darth Sidious at the first chance gets, as it has already become clear in episode 3 that Sidious lied to him. No one gets tricked into their life goals of 30 years, and again if you can't see that, I can't help you. (I'm not being condescending in this, I really can't help you, and I really do recommend watching the video again)
Yes, because when I see someone murder a bunch of children I immediately think "there's still good in that person!" But a person who makes questionable moral decisions to reach a noble goal (peace in the galaxy) is clearly irredeemable.
Kevin Fowler Yea this basically!
Something that doesn't line up was that in A New Hope, Obi Wan says that Anakin fought with him in the Clone Wars, and was a good pilot. This wouldn't make sense at all if they though Anakin had died, and he was leading the clone army.
There's still plenty of overlap for Obi-Wan to know that Anakin was a great pilot, a cunning warrior, and a good friend.
Obi-Wan never specifically says they fought TOGETHER in the Clone Wars. He just implies that they both fought in the Clone Wars. He never says it was on the same side.
EC Henry ah you're right, that is the line (that he FOUGHT, not necessarily with him). you're alternate version is great though! nice job
EC Henry u do kno that vader helped the empire destroy the jedi knights which he did dumbass
EC Henry but most people interpret it as fighting alongside each other... That could be an interesting twist, but I believe it is better for the story if the Jedi fought together in the clone wars
One way to fix this is if Anakin stayed with the Jedi as a double agent, instead of leading the crusade to crush the separatist, maybe just the ominous figurehead, kinda like dooku was. Then his mask initially would only be to strike fear. That way you can still have him get disfigured by obi wan and explain why the emperor was so willing to through away his greatest weapon to possibly secure Luke. In canon, the emperor was disgusted by Anakin's mutilation and was constantly looking for someone better, sending Vader to kill dark side practitioners who could become great, hoping that one of them child best Vader and then the emperor would finally have a apprentice worthy of him. Having Anakin get disfigured slowly over the course of a 3 year war would have much less of an impact on the emperor since he saw that his injuries didn't impede his work.
Great job dude, this was a well made video that makes me wanna see this version of the story!
Damn Palpatine allowing his own homeplanet to be blown up in ANH. Brutal
That story is so much more shallow then the prequels. Also it wouldn't make any sense for Darth Vader to turn back to the light, if he had just been seeking for peace and order from the beginning. Anakin becames Vader when he gets lost, when everything he grew up believing shatters and grasps himself to the only source of guidance left. To some extent, Vader always knew what he was doing was wrong, but he refused to believe in it. He couldn't go back after helping Palpatine defeat the Jedi. He tried to convince himself that was for the greater good, even though he know he was wrong. That is why Luke sensed the conflict in him.
André Geraldes Okay? You regurgatated everyone elses point about the one scene in Rotj, but how is it more shallow than the preuquels we have now?
Lord Whoopi For the reasons just explained. Vader had a solid reason to turn back to the light. Vader wasn't 100% evil. He joined the dark side to save his family. What better reason to turn back to the light than family?
cadkls family should not be the heart of anakins turn. Anakin should learn that in the end.
Actually it does make sense. It's seeing that the price for the Empire's so-called peace and order is costing the life of his own son (as the Emperor tortures him to death) that makes it a more personal matter for Anakin and why he turns against his master.
@@ULYSSES-31 You guys are overestimating the regard someone with that attitude (especially at that level, and after that many decades of commitment) may have for their son. Without the kinds of love Anakin showed in the actual prequels, this imaginary Anakin I think would just see Luke's death as a casualty of the cause (he should've joined us, it's his fault he lacked vision). It wouldn't have turned him back to the light
This is interesting but less dramatic I like how confused and twisted he becomes so backwards without fully realizing it, pretty entertaining to watch his life build up and crumble into the dark side
true
“They pledge allegiance to no one system of government.”
*Obi-Wan:* MY ALLEGIANCE IS TO THE REPUBLIC, TO DEMOCRACY!
I know this video is 7 years old, but then I realize something that could be done.
Obi-Wan learns this new warlord named Darth Vader has been hunting down Jedi, and may have betrayed and murdered Anakin Skywalker.
Only to find in a shocking reveal Anakin is Vader.
"Isn't that repeating The Empire Strikes Back (1980)?"
Where there's the connection.
Wait, but Obi wan served in the clone wars with anakin
Maybe the Clone Wars show is still canon in this version.
Funny Gaming how? In this version, Anakin directly fights against the Jedi as Vader
SmilingPileOfPoop Oh
hence why it's a shitty theory video and the only people who like it are the ones who hate the prequels as are and would rather an alternate version, even if it's shit and vague like this one.
Didn't Obi One say to luke he has fought in the close wars with Anakin ?
I think making Vader a one dimensional character would make his redemption in episode 6 less natural as well as destroy the clear parallel between Luke and Anakin that plays a very important part in understanding the series. I don't see why scraping his character development in favor of a simpler character is better. I would attribute the flaws of the prequels to execution over concept. The awkward dialogue, the boring expositions, and unnecessary implementations are the complaints towards the prequels not the plot.
Aaron Reamer exactly the plot in the prequels is excellent, i cant believe so many delusional people dont understand this.
Aaron Reamer you know what's funny. The prequels overall got better reception in other countries as the dubs had better writing.
This makes Anakin seem like a reborn Revan. Breaks away from the Jedi after their refusal to intervene in a war that's endangering billions. Turns on the Jedi, creating a new empire and basically wiping them out. This turns Anakin from a whiny brat to a reborn hero, stepping in where the Jedi would not and creating a new empire to rule the galaxy!
I mean the prequels were perfect just the way they are
@@maxotto9877 i mean yeah they could be made better now but still it has its ting
Make the prequels great in one second:
The seperatists win
They are already great but this would make it even greater!
Flathead Gg244 that defeats the whole point of the prequels.
The prequels are trying to show how power corrupts. The power that the Republic holds corrupts it into the Empire. If the Seperatists had won, then there wouldn't be an Empire.
+Cybermat47 No they don't, they show how an archetypical born evil villain uses scheming and deception in order to trick everyone into fulfilling what he and his Sith predecessors had been planning all along. It's not about how power corrupts, it's about simple manipulation.
They do?
The seperatists are formed by Palpatine. And Palpatine formed the Empire. Therefore the separatists win.
that'd make for a boring story though. not an interesting character. and vaders "redemption" would make no sense.
Yeah because the Anakin character in the actual prequels was sooo interesting, right?
+MLennholm aparently not to you.
No. Because that is an extremely dull, boring, pointless story. It'd render the OT irrelevant, and there would be 0 emotional investment in Vader. Ok. Some guy that was heavy into politics and took it too far... yay..
+bergenheis for no reason? lol you clearly have very limited knowlege of starwars. as a bonus I'll mention: if you thought that you just killed your wife and unborn child in a fit of anger, wouldn't you be a little self hatred and more anger... ect. keeping you in the darkide? lol
+bergenheis you have a lot to learn about Vader xD
At first I was thinking this was going to be another "shoulda been this way" type of thing, but after listening to it I can mostly get behind the ideas presented in this video. They were mostly thought out and presented in a way that, as was mentioned, meshes well with the original trilogy. Good job!
Very interesting ideas, I was getting KOTOR and Revan vibes when you mentioned the Council not willing to listen to Anakin.
Except that Obi-Wan fought in the Clone Wars.
Obi-Wan: "Yes. I was once a Jedi Knight the same as your father."
...
Leia via hologram: "General Kenobi. Years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars. Now he begs..."
Luke: "You fought in the Clone Wars?"
I'm imagining that the Separatist movement and the Jedi rebellion would be remembered by history under the single term "The Clone Wars" - so even though Obi-Wan only fought in the latter conflict, it's still true.
Or it could have simply been a lie. The Jedi are not beneath lying to their own subordinates to protect their precious legacy and control their padawans.
Sith can lie too, and in fact we welcome it. What matters is how one handles the situation when they discover the truth. Are you strong enough to exact revenge for your betrayal? Or are you too weak and scared to do anything about it?
awesome video, currently im in the process of remaking the Original Trilogy, just bits and pieces as to make it make more sense, what are your thoughts on the Originals, any changes would you make?? if any??
I don't like this theory either.
"Wars," in the plural sense.
This is a really good reimagining of the prequels . But it kinda makes Anakin a second Revan in my opinion
and that's a bad thing :/
Michael Star755 If this how it started, Revan would have been a second Anakin.
pretty much
we should reuse that concept for a post rotj character
Did you consider that Revan was written as a Vader-prototype to begin with? The videogame makers and book authors wanted to do their own personal Vader-story but didn't have the rights so made their own, and damn it they hit pretty close to the mark? Remember, Vader is the one that started it all in terms of the IRL movies
You should make a full on "Fixing the prequels" video with all these Ideas, they're amazing
The thing with Star Wars is there are millions of different ways you can tell the stories. No matter how they are written there will always be people who hate them. I think it's exciting that you came up with your own version. I'd like to see more people doing this.
Owen didn't like Anakin because he ran off without saying anything after his mothers death and he doesn't like Obi-Won because he's sticking around which may danger his family or convince Luke to ran away like Anakin did. Leia might have used to force to see those images of her mother soon after birth but never really having kown her...
Anakin did hunt down the remaining Jedi both in the old and new canon. Its not shown in the movies as much but there also isn't much shown during that time period.
I mean the more I think about the mother thing, I'm starting to think it was probably her adoptive mother who died when she was young, and she really didn't know her real mother at all
John O
thats what i've always thought
Thodnern Darth Vadar in the time after order 66 recruited the Inquisitor in canon to hunt down remaining Jedi. Even non-canon Starkiller was ordered to hunt down remaining Jedi.
But Darth Vader also hunted down quite a few personally, as seen in the canon comics and novels. I'm not familiar with any Legends material (except for "The Force Unleashed" and the "Jedi Apprentice" books) but I've been told he does the same in Legends.
I think they should've made Anakin more human and personable. The story of Vader is a tragedy, his own son practically kills him. The tragedy of Vader should remain that and to keep it a tragedy you have to see where him trying to do good suddenly turns so wrong, that's why we have him attack Windu because Windu wasn't abiding by the Jedi way and he believed palpatine was going to save padme. Of course we could say that the tragedy needed more umf, so it would probably serve best to see how similar Luke was to Anakin's journey (you do this retroactively of course) but when faced with an ultimate decision Luke doesn't do whatever Anakin did that would make him Vader (that's of course if you want a feel good ending but the endings are set in stone). We kind of have this in the saga as it is kind of. But there's still some puzzle pieces that feel lacking. Anakin did need to be less brooding, more happy, he felt really robotic in the prequels. The paranoia he experiences in Revenge is kind of perfect though, we see someone who has lost trust in his colleagues because they are slowly losing their way, a mentor he has confided in proves to be evil, his wife is dying in his dreams, he's asked to do strange and suspicious things, he's actually the only right and sensible person in the film until he passes that point of no return. What must be done is fixing the two previous films to help the third one, make it better. We have to start seeing the cracks at the beginning that way at the end the cracks are canyons. So change how phantom and god awful clones went and the trilogy would almost be alike to a Shakespearean tragedy, which is what Star Wars is.
I mean if you look at the last lines pivotal characters say to Anakin, his mom half gets out "I love you", padme says "you're breaking my heart" and "I love you", Obi-Wan says "I loved you", so it's clear he's afraid of loss because he lost everyone he loves but then at the very end of his life the most tear jerking lines come from his son who doesn't say "I love you" or anything like that. His words are far more powerful and Luke says "I Won't Leave you". So after all of Anakin's fear of losing everything he held dear in the end the words said to him were the most powerful thing he has ever heard. "I won't leave you". Man if that doesn't cry tragedy I don't know what does.
Alex Fernandez well put, damn.
Chills I just got chills.
Tbf Luke is the second one to say that line 'I won't leave you'.
MannequinStep who was the first?
Finally, someone who gets it.
Great job man
I think a better change would be that Anakin turned evil to stop the invasion of the sand army, which he doesn’t like.
I loved that final mirror image of Anakin walking with Palpatine and Darth Vader walking alongside the Emperor
I think they are fine the way they are. But this is the first prequel revisionist video I've seen that really makes sense. I love it!
K Silva agreed completely
I personally liked the prequels as is, but I mainly like revenge of the author the most, I just think that the real "fixing" of the prequels would have to be in the dialogue and and cgi. Specifically taking most of the cgi out and making better dialogue. The story isn't the problem for me and many others it's the way that the dialogue told it. They could also focus on fixing some of the plot holes Lucas made like how obi-wan has no idea who c3po and r2 are in episode 4.
Raygear "Revenge of the author" 😂😂😂😂😂
One way of looking at that particular plot hole is if I recall he actually says he doesn't remember 'owning' a droid, the bigger issue now that I think of it is artoo saying he's the property of an obi-wan kenobi but that could be the little droid being creative in getting where he wants to be. This is just my take on it however but there isn't any true sign that obi-wan doesn't recall the two droids and just not mention anything to luke, actually how often did obi-wan even see threepio to start with sure I can get artoo because of the wars but he can't have seen threepio a huge amount. If however vader had not recalled either droid then that would be a massive plot hole but since on screen at least he never actually meets the droids at all or is foucsed on something else it isn't an issue. To me those small issues are simply due to the order the films were made in but I can't think of any huge plot holes that can't be explained away by looking at them from 'a certain point of view'. I recall one error as people call it was obi calling yoda his master or something like that, if memory serves he mentions have thought he could train anakin as well as yoda but I don't know if he directly points out that yoda was his master. If by chance he did then I agree with what others have said before that at one point in his training as a jedi he was taught by yoda the scene in attack of the clones with the younglings might even be meant to show just that and not just for obi-wan to find kamino.
Raygear Threepio got his memory erased, watch the end of 3
Obi-wan merely told Luke "I don't seem to remember ever owning a droid", which is technically true. In the Original Trilogy, Obi-Wan bended the truth about Anakin's/Vader's fall to the dark side. The Princess, The Scoundrel, and The Farmboy novel explains it, along with a lot of other EU books in regards to other things.
Thank you for the only re-imagined explanation that makes sense. You have restored some of my interest in the Star War universe.
THIS, this is the path, excellent job sir!
Doesn’t it kinda remind you of revan before kotor. A Jedi hero and everyone loves him disobeys council to go fight in a war seeks power and becomes a sith. Sounds ab right
Revan's fall to the dark side is actually a more believable story than Anakin's. It would have worked perfectly in the right context.
For example, the Republic is falling. Bring in the Sith ideology, which is really Darwinist, and a master (Palpatine) who shows it to Anakin. The Republic works in peace time, but it needs a more centralized leadership at war, and so the Empire is born. If the enemy is lead by a Sith as well, secretly working for Palpatine, but posing as a Malak-like face of the enemy, Anakin could have been persuaded to learn using his hate as a weapon. He could have tried to balance between the light and the dark side, and falling to the dark when the Jedi stand in their way, which he views as holding the Empire back from survival. Then in the end of ROTJ, he sees that he just believed in another absolute, which is not better than the Jedi views, but needs more graves to dig.
Levente Bárdossy so pretty much Anakin is a revan ripoff in this since its to similar like how TFA to 1977 Anakin needs to have his own reason and also ObiWan did also fought in the war
@@75JUNAKI Yeah. Turning evil only for love doesn't make you a political radical, which Darth Vader totally was. Revan's backstory was basically an answer to the question: What if Darth Vader's backstory was written by someone who actually knows anything about writing, instead of a terrible writer called George Lucas?
Wouldn't say george is a terrible writer since he conceived most of star wars. Also really call vader anything since we barely knew him.
I wish they made the whole of the Jedi order on par with the way Yoda was portrayed in the original films. Odd, quirky, difficult to trust. With palapatine seeming put together and professional. The Jedi calling out to anakin, but the emperor convincing anakin that they are fringe lunatics and that there must be a better way.
I love these radical changes. Nice work.
Ec Henry: Tells his pitch in five minutes.
Banditincorporated: Obi Wan picks up his lightsaber, Obi Wan looks at the lightsaber, Obi Wan pushes the button on the lightsaber, the lightsaber turns on...
Easy, delete Jar Jar from existence. (Relax people, it was just a joke.....)
Oh please, the REAL issues only start after Jar Jar is long-gone from the central narrative. Jar Jar was annoying but he didn't destroy the friggin' universe.
***** Jar Jar alone wasn't a problem for the series, but the fact that Lucas decided to keep him in was a red flag for *the other* decisions Lucas would make.
"Mesa not being theresa no mean Ani will no besa whiny and Jedi pallos will no besa stoopid enuff for Palpy to walk naked with a red saber thingo in front of themsa and not given hisa self away as Bombad Sith."
- Jar Jar Binks
my god, it was a joke......
okiday, no besa angry with mesa
I think Anakin in the prequels is fine. It was his decision to join the Dark Side and you can understand why. The Jedi order failing and disappointing over and over and even breaking the Jedi code made him believe that the Jedi maybe not the right path. But this version is good. But needs a stronger relation between Obi-Wan and Anakin to have more impact. Also no silly CGI aliens and droids.
Marat when it comes to story, the prequels are great. If you make a summary of the story you can get a better sense of why. Anakin's constant rejection and lack of power to do what he thought was right, Obi Wan and Yoda's realization about how the jedi order failed, Palpatine's games and the friendship between Obi Wan and Anakin, were all great stories. The problem was the execution.
The droids are one of the best thing of the prequels.
The prequels simply didn't match the dialogue of the original trilogy.
BudgetBugout The general dialogue was fine it was some of the romantic dialogue that was bad that's it.
He would need a stronger wound for his transformation, after years of seeing the inaction of the jedi it finally tips him over the edge when padme is killed in the war (after giving birth) which he directly blames on the jedi and gives into the dark side, this video's version leaves out an internal motivation for his turn to the dark side. Anakin just "believing palpatine is right" is not enough to start commiting jedi genocide
Honestly amazing buuuuuut, this change would effectively ruin the clone wars tv show. I enjoy watching the clone and jedi combination. I think this alternate story would be great if you would include another tv show that went along with this story. Perhaps something about other jedi that left the order and helped anakin win the clone wars.
DANG! This really like your vision of the Prequels! And i actually was thinking the the same thing about making Naboo Alderaan, to add a little touch of Nostalgia.
Shut up and take my money !!
I do like this, but I think that giving Anakin this huge ego wouldn't make him end up returning to the light in the end. If this really did happen, I think Luke would try turning him back, but would ultimately fail, leaving one of them to die.
Dtto Bobby. Remember, that Vader was in essence a husk of his prime, unable to have any biological descendants and unwilling to ever engage in anything close to adoption. Luke was then truly the only thing that could give his life and legacy some meaning. And it did.
This is the best reimagined version I have heard this far.
1. The main focus is on Anakin/Vader
2. Anakin is Vader before he puts on the suit which gives the audience what they came for in the first place.
3. Palpatine doesn't have to hide
4. The Jedi Order is destroyed.
5. The Clone War is expanded
6. Padame is a precursor to Princess Leia
7. Obi Wan reveals a New Hope
8. Finally the Luke and Leia come full circle.
i loved your take on it man!! it would have been awesome to have seen it this way
If Disney were to make a reboot of the prequels, this would be the PERFECT plot to go by. This version of the prequel trilogy would perfect and fortify the Star Wars Saga altogether.
no
Freiza yes
RyanTheTaco no
lucas eve said tht in the Disney takeover agreement to not reboot the prequels and u calling us nostalgia fanboys I m srry but u OG fans r tht and the prequels r staying so cry me a river
The thing about the armor is that the volcano backstory was always the reason he got his suit not because he got battle scared
Gokubond 007 299 Right, because Palpatine had an armor developed immediately after. Lucas is such a shitty writer.
Sure, the man who created the entire Star Wars universe is a "shitty writer"
He didn’t have the armor made straight away. In the novelization of the movie, they said it took days for him to get his suit together.
Yeah, i'm the idiot, not the guy who thinks George Lucas is a "shitty writer"... Not much more that needs to be said really is there.
Its pretty clear that people agree with me and not you. Now stop using big words to pretend that you are clever and give the keyboard a rest. You are wrong.
Great now I want to be transported to a parallel universe where the prequels were great
I thoroughly agree that the CIS should be painted more as 'good guys'. It always pisses me off how the Clone Wars series kept trying to make them look evil, even though they're clearly fighting for a good cause to free themselves and others from the rule of the horrifically corrupt Republic.
I like the idea of Palpatine slowly and patiently corrupting Anakin, it was just poorly executed.
What about the droid attack on the Wookies?
I'd rather keep the prequels we have for the sake of the clone wars, but man was this well thought out
To be fair, Anakin did do what he thought was right. He thought the Jedi were evil and were going to overthrow the republic (which was a lie by Palpatine) then made sure they were dead so that they "couldn't do that".
The Prequels ends with Anakin hating the Jedi Order, so him moving into the Ep. 4 Vader makes total sense !!
Bashing the prequels with a weak reimagining?
"It's treason, then... "
Javier Cabañas XD
Javier Cabañas You just used a quote from one of the worst scenes in the prequels to defend them.
Another happy landing.
Hello there.
From my point of view the JEDI are evil!
There is enough material and talent out there to splice this together as a fan remake trilogy using this template.
Great ideas man!!