The Submarine - Part 1. It's real! I've seen South Africa's giant great white shark three times!
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- Craig recalls the three encounters that he has had with South Africa's legendary giant great white shark - the Submarine. Fisherman stories or hidden monster... you be the judge
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Just to support his story, we have documented a great white named “Deep Blue” she is 6.1m “22ft” and one thing to remember there is always a bigger fish
Yeah I bet there's some big sharks out there, clever and wise as f**k too. There's probably hidden islands with huge wildlife activity, perhaps even ancient plants and animals. I need to build a submarine.
Who measured it to get the exact measurements??
@@shanemarz6742 Mauricio Hoyos Padilla I believe he is a marine biologists but they had a special on her on Discovery just google Deep Blue shark
Everything I've read has said 20ft - 6 meters.
Watching her videos you have to be in awe of something that large and beautiful.
Yeah. I have heard about 'Deep Blue' too. Deep sea divers and huge shark advocates Ocean Ramsey and her husband mention this shark a lot of times in their posts on IG.
Scientists spend a month or maybe 2 on the water and think they know everything. Your local guides and avid fisherman have a better understanding of your local ecosystem than any scientist.
No. Marine biologists devote their entire careers to understanding ecosystems through application of the scientific method. One man's experience shouldn't be translated into a condemnation of science. He probably saw it, and his reasoning is sound, but he has no hard proof. I live with farmers here in the WV mountains who think they know more about water protection than scientists. Their practices and the evidence proves them wrong. I've experienced the same defensiveness from sportsmen.
@@tonybarnes3858 I understand where your coming from. I should have clarified. I won't dispute scientific method. I'm speaking more to just pure observation when I've been told this animal or insect doesn't exist in an area when there is photographic evidence.
That's why good scientists are always open to possibilities. Good scientific method works with lay people in the industry of the scope of their research (eg, tag and release projects). It is definately narrow minded to rule out the existence of submarine simply because you, yourself, have not seen and measured it. At the same time, scientific skepticism should be good motivation to try log observations with more evidence and scientific rigour. I, personally, would LOVE to see credible footage of submarine instead of artistic recreations.
Exactly as they say in the term.
Ask one experienced person rather than 100 doctors.
@Z Malek what? So 1+1 is 2 but not 2? What confusing and incorrect mentality...How can something be and not be? or exist or not exist? or be right and wrong at the same time? Is the equation 1+1=2 and also 1+1=11 also the same wtf?? What in the world are you talking about?
How arrogant we are to say that we know exactly how big these creatures can be.
This man is absolutely right.
I agree! Humans are capable of great intelligence but we are just as capable of arrogant ignorance! This is a great example of arrogant ignorance!!
@@chandlerburse2754
Hm..
Also arrogant to say we know exactly how deep they dive
Predatory animals are always growing, their size is dictated on prey populations.
thats the main problem with humanity thE ARROGANCE,,
Someone tell her to stop adding water - the ocean is full now. Well done.
Adding a couple meters more
It's not water it's chum bait for fishing
@@cris-vv1pn We know, its a joke
@@cris-vv1pn What Red Knight said.
@@cris-vv1pn look up quick...whoosh... ah shite ya missed it.
Just pulling your leg. I am sure all of us have done it ourselves.
Been gamefishing off the east coast of Australia for 35years...i can confirm his words. I have seen for myself a massive white that came up our burley/chum slick and passed right underneath our boat and looked like an aeroplane. I thought i'd seen it all but i was petrified. This was mid 1980's but I remember it like yesterday, i was up on the flybridge and could hardly speak i was so shocked. We have tagged 600kg oceanic tigers, 400kg mako's and seen a number of 4.5-5m whites, but never have i seen anything like this one, nor since. My guess was 21-22ft. When you see a 15-16ft white it is jaw dropping how big and the girth of it, so i will never dismiss a report of a 7m white...certainly not from Australian or South African waters.
Did you tell Quint you were gonna need a bigger boat?
I can belive 20 footers easily eneugh but 26 footers?
When I was a kid in the 1960's we constantly saw a Great White at a snapper fishing ground off South Australia called Freds Ground, named after this pointer. He'd come alongside the boats, sometimes bite outboards and he was well longer than the 18 foot boat I was on
Big Fred...when I was diving over the West coast near Ceduna a mate o mine was working on the Marmeena and him and the skipper said they'd pulled Fred up in a net but couldn't get him aboard ...he was a monster!!
Yeah i would never go in the ocean on an 18 ft boat.because i just knew shit was out there bigger than boats..lmmfao😂hard pass man.but i bet it was awesome👍
Vic hislop caught a twenty footer back in the 80s they are out there
On Shark Week one of the shows is about two big male Great Whites between Australia and New Zealand somewhere. Both bigger than Deep Blue. One named Scar for a big open gash it had above or close to an eye which had almost completely healed when they seen him at this filming and found out he had grown a few feet making him equal in size to the other one. The other one may have been named Big Fred as in the same shark you mentioned or after him. Both were about 23ft to 24ft long and dominant/aggressive as could be around food.
I believe I've just seen Sharkodile Dundee 😲
Hahahah yes yes
Better watch it mate
@@Lilmickcrocodiledundee0001 🤣
I am sure you have seen such a shark. My late father saw sharks back in the 1930's in Jamaica--the ship on which he sailed was the Jamaica Planter, and I think it was owned by the Hadlee shipping company.
Anyway--in Jamaica the local fishermen brought in a huge shark. Apparently they turned up every twenty years or so--and they hauled this one up using a crane, and tied it to a beam across two trestles. The trestles were twenty feet high, and there was plenty of tail still on the ground. I think my sister has the photograph, but this is the good part.
My father was photographed sitting in a Chesterfield lounge chair INSIDE THE SHARK'S MOUTH, and the top teeth still were above his head, and his feet were resting on the bottom jaw.
So I am certain you are correct. Big sharks DO exist--they are probably more common than we imagine them to be.
I would love to see these photos! I am so fascinated and scared of sharks.
Could you find the photo it would put an end to all the doubting thomases out there regards😊
@@leemccullough558 same! Let’s find them!
The ocean is enormous. Just because we haven’t seen something doesn’t mean it can’t happen.
Just think about what's out there . We have explored space more than our own oceans . Think about Challenger Deep or the Marianas Trench . It's hard to tell wtf kind of huge animals is out there . And remember not long ago they thought the giant squid was a myth until that scientist actually filmed one , lol . So we ALL need to be open minded about the possibilities of giant Sharks out there ! 👍🦌
Colossolal Squid were a myth, until the Japanese filmed them about 15 years ago.
Bad and stupid analogy: Giant squid carcasses were found ashore and inside the innards of sperm whales more than 200 years earlier, and were classified taxon. We knew they were real and had tangible evidence, we just didn't see them alive until 15 years ago.
You got to be really young. Us over 30 years old can remember very well all the documentaries and academic info talking about giant and colossal squids since the 90's and far earlier. No one denied their existence.
This submarine jaws, on the other hand...we've never found a great white that big and there's no tangible evidence they can get that huge.
@@MrAlepedroza look giant crocodiles been missed and were common once in Australia, 4.4m bull shark is bonkers so 20 ft plus great white is very possible,,,,
@@stephenhollinrake4919 You refuted yourself: Giant crocs were known to be real cuz they were hunted and we got to measure them. This kaws on the other hand...the largest ever caught was the Malta speciment, which was only 23 1/2 ft long.
@@MrAlepedroza You ought to be very embarrassed about your arrogant attack on this person's post. The colossal squid (Mesonychoteuthis hamiltoni) and the giant squid (Architeuthis dux) are two different species of squid. The colossal squid was first discovered and described in 1925. You first discovered that the colossal squid existed just before your edit.
The analogy was inaccurate, not "bad and stupid..." as you described it. Using the edit button to add in details after is just lame and shows you are not man enough to admit your ignorance in this matter. Time for you to use the 'edit' button again.
I was staring at something else the whole time he was talking.
Is it his hat ?🤔🤣
I was looking at what was coming out of the chum jug and wondering why it was clear like seawater instead of red
Her booty?
Pirates booty?
Just go watch porn then
Love the fact he has someone chummin the water while he speaks.
Better trust the fisherman then the scientist!!!!
They don’t stand to gain from it. I also believe the Australian fishermen that QUIT fishing after they saw a 50 foot shark after decades of fishing. You are right.
When you say "then" that means one and then the other, you meant "than".
He did.
Why? Fishermen saw mermaids out there....
Or at least someone who know the difference between "then" and "than" lmao
I love experts there's no 7M sharks. Just because something hasn't been spotted doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Things can grow outside the norm
Two things you don't trust 1. A fart 2. A fisherman telling how big a fish was
An old mate of mine who was a pro fisherman all his life told me he saw a great white he called the submarine 30ft+ off Coffs Harbour in Australia
Scary shit ay
@@pkae85 yeah I’ve seen plenty on the trawlers but not as big , still plenty of 6m+
My old man was crayfishing in the early 60’s. He swears black and blue that a GW came alongside their 30ft boat two times in one day off the Abrolhos islands as they were changing baits. He said it was longer than their boat. He said he grabbed the wheel house as he felt like he might fall overboard…
I absolutely believe him.
Yes, I have seen a Tiger in Moz that was 7 plus meters. Bigger than the 6m boat I was skipping. Experts said largest was about 6m. So yes, what you say can definitely be true.
Sharks Happen best channel on CZcams.
My father was an abalone diver in South Australia in the 60s-early 70s. He is completely unsurprised someone claims to have seen a 7m white.
We don’t know your dad, so that means absolutely nothing to us. My dad was a bricklayer in the port of antwerp between 1975 and 1984, and he is completely surprised by a 7 meter shark.
@@donaldvanvliet9039 ok we don’t know your dad either???
@@donaldvanvliet9039 So his dad worked in the water and yours didn't? Might have something to do with it.
@@donaldvanvliet9039 ok I’ll break it down for you:
1. South Australia is home to many large whites.
2. His father was an abolone diver, which men’s he was in the water regularly.
3. It’s implied that he has seen at least 1 massive shark personally, so the idea of a 7 meter great white is not an unbelievable concept to him.
I hope that helps, or at least gets you started.
@@TheRogueSquid so tell me, do we know anything more than before from the op?
It’s an empty remark, which was my point.
Let me break it down for you:
-the op doesn’t claim to have seen a submarine himself,
-he doesn’t claim that his father has seen a submarine,
-he only says that his father is unsurprised by such a claim,
-and the descriptor that his father was an abalone diver a long long time ago is meaningless since the existence of a submarine is unrelated to the unsubstantiated opinion of an abalone diver who doesn’t even claim to have seen one, only that he wouldn’t be surprised if they did exist. It’s just as meaningful or meaningless as the unsubstantiated opinion of my father the bricklayer who has never been in the water.
I hope that helps, or at least gets you started.
I believe you for sure. Most Scientists don’t leave there comfortable room. Good on you mate.
I don't think any scientist would say a 7m white shark is impossible, they have to keep an open mind. They might say that the larger the claimed size (beyond the largest verified size) the less probable it is of being true.
You could work at sea for 50 years and still not see everything that's out there. If several pro fishermen in South Africa claim to have seen a 30 ft shark, who the hell am I to say they haven't?
My Grandfather was a professional fishermen all his life out of Port Fairy , Victoria , Australia ... There's a seal colony on an island 12 miles from Port Fairy called Lady Julie Percy Island , and there used to be a great white hanging around called Big Ben , he was called this by the locals and he was 25 - 26 ft long .... my grandfather reckons he also seen one that was 27 ft long.
8 meters....yeah...
@@maxmorlock697 the largest white pointer in the world was caught of the coast of Port Fairy , 36 foot , in the early 1900's
@@shanegibb997 The question of the Port Fairy shark was settled in the 1970s when J. E. Randall examined the shark’s jaws and “found that the Port Fairy shark was of the order of 5 m (17 ft) in length and suggested that a mistake had been made in the original record, in 1870, of the shark’s length”.
@@maxmorlock697 i won't argue with you ....
@@maxmorlock697 how big do you think white pointers get too in size.
I was off the east end of Catalina on a 24ft Sea Ray, we cruised for 20min next to a white the same size as the boat, this was 30yrs ago when they were very rare, last year a friend was at Anacapa and videoed 2 separate whites attacks on seals in under 30mins, juveniles are stacked up in the bay, if you fly a drone off Malibu you will see at least one and 6 to 12 is common, I’m sure there’s subs there, plenty of em🤙🏽🏄🏻♂️
Manresa, La Selva in Monterey Bay is the same now......lots of juveniles and big sharks all the time now !
Those little white sharks won't stay small forever, and when they are adults will they remember those plentiful pinnipeds, tuna, and rays in So. California waters?
Completely safe, swim, surf… thy don’t bite, they could but they, dont
We had a white called big fred off our south coast growing up and was well known to all fishermen . Fred sad hi one day as Dad was pulling the anchor , I was at the back and my uncle told me to tell him when it was level at the back. When I yelled out Dad said bloody hell as uncle built the boat and she was 18 1/2 ft and Dad said it still had enough on the boat and I knew they were terrified . . What shocked me was the girth of the thing as it went past and turning on a dime came back on its side for a closer look . It's one of those things that you must witness yourself to truly understand because nothing else compares.. I have seen 4 since then the largest 15 ft an impressive size shark but dwarfed in size by big fred. .. Craig im with you on this one man , but some people wouldn't believe until they have a Chief Brody moment all to themselves and want a bigger boat .
Ha ha! I have never swum in the ocean after seeing Jaws. What was it a 25 footer? Jaws 2 of course upped the ante and added another 10 foot or so made the shark female (the females are bigger according to the trailer) and also a Killer Whale killer which is a little OTT. Probably the earliest woke film ever, at least for sharks :)
Good essay. Was with you all the way.
Wow. I believe that
mate by far the best comment..straight up JAWS wasnt made up hahahaha
And ironically - Big Ben was probably a female.
The real submarine lives in Australia, mate. It ate the honeymoon guy at Julian Rocks off Byron Bay. Friend of mine said smacks of blood and water were geysering 20 foot in the air as it had at him. Then they hooked it on a fishing line, and when it spewed him up they cut the line to recover the body. Except it wasn't described as a submarine. They said big as a VW combie. I saw it flapping around later near Hastings Point, but it sure as hell didn't look like it was dying to me, like people say. When I saw it, it was hunting mullet. V dub bus was understating things, I reckon.
U realize they migrate under South Africa and back into Australian waters
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a dozen over sized whites around the globe, deep blue is a monster , I think she's around the gulf of mexico
How long ago was that?
June 1993. You know, sometimes things used to eat my dad's berley pot off Cook Island, near Fingal. Like swallow a whole steel cage covered in chicken wire a metre wide by a foot tall, what he used to stuff with pilchards and drop to the bottom to stir up snapper. Have to cut the rope. One time I paddled out at Backbeach Fingal alone, too, for a surf. Only guy on the beach, dark day, 15 years old. Last wave I had to duck dive to get out the back, I saw another shark like the Julian Rocks one come straight over. Massive doesn't adequately describe it. Huge bristling teeth. I caught that wave in, needless to say, and the paddle over the deep gutter near the shore was so frightening. As soon as you get in the ocean or river anywhere, you are in the same body of water wherein monsters dwell. Comforting thought.
Did you actually see the shark from that 93 attack? How can they be sure was same shark? Apparently it bit free of the steel fishing cable after an hour & a half struggle! They couldn't shoot it either! So probably wasn't half dead like they say
Well in the 50s 60s and 70s they were hunted so much they never got the chance too grow bigger than 22 or 23 feet now that they have not been hunted heavily the last 20 years and no one is killing off there main source of food and thffeyve stopped clubbing seals, I believe a 25 to 30 foot great white is entirely possible in todays oceans
Hell yeah , great point and very valid !
Yeah good point. Same with salt water crocs in Australian waters. They are getting pretty big.
@@simac5144 there getting big every where I saw a recent video of a 27/28 foot crock in Indonesia. Thats HUGE
@@phillipbrewster969 Jesus, yeah
I went cage diving off the coast of Ghansbai, South Africa back in 2007. Not far from Dyer Island where I think a lot of the Air Jaws footage is filmed. We saw about a half dozen different great whites, and some amazing breaches. The largest one was a little over 5 meters, close to 18 feet with massive girth. Maybe 6 ft wide not counting the pectoral fins. We were on a 35 foot boat and using a 5 person cage and this thing dwarfed the cage and made me think twice about a "bigger boat". Was a once in a lifetime trip and truly incredible to see these magnificent creatures up close.
This may sound odd to some, but after observing them for a while it was almost like one could actually see a bit of personality showing in them like in dogs, cats, etc. Was a surprise to me as I would have never thought that before seeing them in person. Whole new level of respect.
Look man I believe you. You on the water. Experts need to consult the people who are out there and really know wtf is going on out there.
@DÜ spanky he never said he was
My neighbour worked for the sea fisheries and attended to a beached whale at Smitswinkel bay near Cape Point. He said there were 12-foot whites feeding on the carcass when the submarine appeared and dwarfed them at twice the size.
I was born in 1967 and when I was a child in the late 70s or early 80s the Guinness Book of World Record had the longest documented great white shark ever caught at 38 feet look it up
I believe they just don't reach that size anymore because of competition with humans for food and them fuckwads that keep hunting sharks for bullshit ass sharkfin soup. Otherwise, the oceans would be teeming with these great and majestic creatures that are allowed to grow to their true size.
Never happened. Show me a picture. Or better yet a 38 foot white shark would be in a museum of natural history
@@ericthompson3551 Dude, there's a documentary on it......it's called Jaws......😆😂🤣😭
That has been debunked. It was never caught only was stuck in a herring trap for a while, and is now believed to be a basking shark.
A 36 foot GW shark claimed caught off Australia turned out to be only 16 feet long when the jaws were measured. It was just a recording error
@@synisterv7703 spot on!
We also have seen a 7 metre white by greenly island on the west coast our boat was a 8 metre cat this shark just fell short of the length of our boat we will never ever forget this as we’ve seen many whites fishing for tuna around there and the Neptunes but never anything like this
I like how he said the submarine was 23ft, but then his diagram displayed it as 30ft.
Very well said testimony there mate, great stuff 👍👍👍👍
Idk why anyone, let alone a scientist would argue vehemently against there being a shark around the size claimed. Great Whites can technically continue to grow until they die, the only issue is 1. staying alive for long enough to reach such a massive size and 2. having a consistent, significant enough food source once at a very large size that will allow them to continue to grow. Its not only much easier for a Great White to reach say...15ft long because it requires less amount of time, but also because it can grow to that size feeding off many different things in many different areas. But provided one can live for long enough, I would assume that these huge sharks are able to grow so large because they spend a lot of time in much deeper waters, and find areas where they can feed on large pelagic fish that dive deeper in the ocean off shore. And if theres anywhere that a shark could get to that size it would undoubtedly be in the waters off of southern Africa and the Indian ocean, as well as the deep waters outside of Australia. The 4.4m bull shark and that 20ft female great white dubbed "Deep Blue" are proof that enough time, and food will result in a massive shark, and with time comes wisdom, those sharks didnt get to that size without learning how to stay alive, and find enough food to sustain themselves by being smart.
They have spotted him at CAPCOD state side he's AROUND 35 to 40 '.
It reminds me how scientists and 'experts' said there were no such things as rogue waves. Since then it has been shown that they are actually relatively common.
The keyword is evidence janet.
@@donaldvanvliet9039 You are missing my point, Donald. Whether one has 'evidence' of something (existence of an animal, or a phenomenon etc) or not is actually irrelevant to the fact of whether or not it actually exists. So, this shark may well exist. Not having hard 'evidence' it exists doesn't mean it isn't swimming around. Equally, perhaps it doesn't. I am open minded. However, I was pointing out that the evidence has a way of getting up to speed in the end.
@@lechatel while i fully agree with your second post, in your original post you were also having a rather cheap go at scientists and ‘experts’ (you realize the fisherman in this video presents himself as an ‘expert’ as well right). At least scientists approach it from a scientific angle which by design allows for correcting mistakes. This is much more preferable than the good ole’ ‘believe me i or my father saw it’ (claim of certainty) or ‘let’s keep an open mind’ (acknowledgement of uncertainty but often misused so to not have to cave).
@@donaldvanvliet9039 I was talking about arm-chair experts of the academic variety. I stand by that. I also don't have your idealistic view oif science or scientists anymore. I have seen way too many examples of scientists who have a singularly un-scientific approach to their studies. In that they provide the bias their sponsor wants, or err on the side of the view that will gain them...rather than debar them from....a 'research grant' from one of the Billionaire Philanthropists aka greedy megalomaniacs. I have seen The Science cast in the guise of a religious cult during this pandemic. Where any questioning and enquiry and scepticism (the foundation of true scientific investigation) is ridiculed as Heresy. You mention 'let's keep an open mind' as some sort of weak excuse. On the contrary...if only science and research DID keep an open mind these days.
I remember Discovery Channel did a show during shark week several years ago about Submarine, I was all in it man, until it sunk their barge and giant buey, then sunk the boat, the head marine biologist had to dive down in the dark dodging a 35 ft GW to save the people trapped in an air pocket in the sunken boat. I was so pissed that DC tried to portray that BS as a real scientific documentary. I swear I’ve seen the same actor that played the biologist on other DC shows about Mermaids
First rule about going after alleged giant sharks, always get the biggest boat possible.
Hahaha but you still will need a bigger boat when your out there
@@shanemarz6742 too true my friend, too true. But in other news are boats still disappearing off the coast of Africa due to a suspecred but unconfirmed mefaladon?
I’m shocked by the fact that there was an over 4 meter bull shark and only now I hear about it in 2024!
Deep Blue is a female great white that is estimated at 6.1 meters (20ft) long discovered off a Guadeloupe island off the coast of Mexico….also discovered to dive much deeper than ever know to go….then seen a few years later feeding of a whale carcass, in Hawaii….where they then discovered another estimated 20 footer…
No worries here, the Sub will never have a chance to see me. 😀
Unfortunately shes most likely deceased by now. Nobody has seen her for years. And she was estimated to be 50 to 70 yrs old in the 90s.
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'They' always think they know everything but in fact know very little. Enjoy your voictory''s to the full. You have seen this vast creature 3 times! Cudos. Wow!
I saw it in Liverpool, it was yellow.
One guy saw sumerine come up and go under the boat estimated him to be 35 to 38 foot in length. He went home and sold his boat he was to scared to go out there again
Thanks for reply . You say you’ve seen 3 times that’s not the real submerine. Some of the yacht y. S off the states are passing 25 footers lazing in the ocean. There picking up stuff from satelite now.
same people who said the giant squid doesnt exist
Think we going to need bigger boat
I went deep see fishing once and saw with my own eyes shark this size. It came behind the boat and turned motors off. Then came within 1M next to the boat , I have never seen such big eye on a shark, boat was a 22 footer and when its head was at front of boat , tail was still 1m to go to back of boat. It just came up next to boat and then went down into the deep.. I believe there are bigger sharks out there. We were 50Km out to sea from south coast Rocky Bay South Africa.
That thing would make me sh!t bricks bro,imagine that thing jumping to the boat...
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In new England there getting big !
A woman was bit in half last year .
There was a cover up ! She was 63 .
Lemme guess. The death certificate said she died of Covid?
@@Squidgy55😂😂😂
Considering science has only seen 2% of whats in our ocean, I'd believe this man!
Right On! Spoken Truth is hard for some to grasp.
It's bs there would b a real pic by now
@@bewareimsinister7455 I would like to see a film or picture with a comparison for scale. Many times even pictures do not satisfy. I agree that a picture would be somewhat effective.
No great white shark has been accurately measured over 5.65 m.
Submarine is fake I won't believe this
A shark that can be that big is obviously be a very good hunter which means it can be very allusive too
.... Open your mind.... they are both out there.....
We still find new species of whales in the ocean
I believe you and I agree with you those sharks can get bigger
Query. Is it the Submarine or is it Deep Blue? There has been some Mockumentaries from Discovery Channel dramatizing Submarine and its behaviors including sitting still in the water etc.
Craig is talking about the Submarine, a South African shark. Deep Blue seems to work between Hawaii and Gaudalupe.
Yeah , I remember that ? Submarine stayed vertical waiting on that 14 year old boy and he took the boy . I seen his older brother comment on the attack . The 14 year old boy was never found . With a White that big he was probably just a snack until his big meal was ready !
Oh , and Submarine is supposed to have a mark on the side of his face from a harpoon from back in the 60s I believe it was ?
No great white shark has been accurately measured over 5.65 m.
Submarine is fake I won't believe this
2 different sharks.
But both female.
The Submarine would have been slightly larger than Big Blue.
As far as I know Submarine hasn't been spotted since the 90s.
She was estimated at 50 to 70yrs old.
Big Blue is a more recent discovery and shes fairly reliable about the places she hangs out, so shes been easier to study.
Theres quite a bit of footage of Big Blue.
Shes said to be around 50yrs old.
20 to 21ft.
Shes girthy, estimated over 2.5 tons.
in 1975 I was Fishing Tuna off a BaitBoat Barbara H , we were near the 415 Fathom sea mount we had a very good 3 days , finishing off 8 wells or 80 tons I was the engineer at time, I was pumping the blood from fishwells to dry up to start Prine Refrigeration. While standing at Rail midships a Great White came up alongside starboard side and held for a minute - I estimated he was half the length of Barbara H, she is 80 ft LOA. I looked around to see if Mexican crew witnessed this monster, had to be at least 35-40 ft- the fleet that day where calling around too see if anybody else had seen this monster, yep, by the way school fish disappeared that day , out trip ended after that day , we had 80 tons so had a nice trip in.I know they exist , had other sightings of sharks and sword fish for the record books
I saw a 25-foot great white shark in a freezer at SeaWorld in San Diego 40 years ago
Damn, a 14.5 foot bull shark. Count me out!
Heard two stories over the years about the submarine. One was from fisherman that had sighted it on a few occasions and decided to catch it to prove their case. The first occasion the used a steel cable and hook attached to a 45 gallon drum. No luck. Second attempt, they used two drums, didn’t work, third time they used 3 drums. What ever took that bait pulled all three drums down and when the drums eventually surfaced the cable had snapped. Now we all know fisher can exaggerate so let’s go to story number two. I’ve spent some time with people that were in the South African navy and quite a few of them have told the same story of being out at sea on patrol or during hide and seek and destroy war games with subs and they have picked up moment on their sonar of something around 15-20 meters in length. This turned out not to be an actual navy submarine as first thought due to the location given by the actual submarine and also the speed and manner in which it moved and disappeared off their sonar. I’m with this guy on his belief that it exists and others like it. Because we haven’t caught it and measured it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Far too after have we make this arrogant mistake. Myth , legend , truth and fact, does it really matter . We know so very little of what’s in the ocean , never mind what lurks deep down below. Chances are we might never get to know , but what is known is that we know way less about what’s there than what we have already discovered that exists there and that’s only surface of a very deep dark ocean.
People also forget that once in a while a genes will mutate. When that happens size, and other physical characteristics are not limited to the laws of average. The Guinness Book of World Records is based on just that.
Now you throw in a low protein prey and this thing will eat more to get its protein and become even larger.
No great white shark has been accurately measured over 5.65 m.
Submarine is fake I won't believe this
@@theshape7801 Deep Blue is 22 ft ...I dunno i think its possible considering we haven't the slightest idea about what resides below other than what allows us too.
@@friknwulfy1016 she's more like 18 feet
@@theshape7801 22ft lol I stand incorrected.
Scientists working at the Farallon islands say they see sharks much bigger than deep blue ,,,
What about the 9foot GWS that was tagged with a satellite information tag...and was subsequently eaten by a much larger shark...it showed it unequivocally when the tag was found..
@@stecumo6459 doubtful because Orcas only eat the liver ...the dont consume the whole shark..plus they are intelligent enough not to consume a satellite tag which is on the external fin of said great white...the tag had to be consumed to gather the temperature reading it did...it was swallowed whole not picked apart..Orcas dont swallow things whole
We know they exist because they showed on the news all over the world a 26 ft great white shark on video and they could measure it because it was near a boat that was about that long and they could measure it.
he's seen a Basking shark 3 times!? i've only seen one twice! wow!
I can tell the differences between a pointer and a basking shark, I'd say this guy can also.
The thing i don't understand is why aren't there pictures, every person has a decent smart phone these days.
@@derekdok this is true but think about this in moment you have a spilt second to try and capture it , look for your phone or camera turn it on and hopefully in the moment it’s still there to capture it
It could be a different individual shark that has grown as big as the Submarine from the 70s?
I like it when he says "you people have a closed mind". I know some people who actually have a closed mind.
You are saying you have seen it 3 times and haven’t got a photo?
The word of a fisherman is highly respected: ‘...i caught one THIS big...’
This was late 70s/early 80s when most people didn't carry cameras with them. The circa 7 metre Submarine was seen by a number of competent eye witnesses.
Depends on the biologists/experts that are quoted. Like any industry or field of study, there are people who are narrow-minded and think they have all the answers, and there are those open-minded and are accepting that there are undiscovered variants of existing creatures out in the wilds. Especially considering the ocean, in which only 5% has been explored. Deep Blue is the largest great white ever filmed, but by no means is it probably the largest great white that currently exists. Every animal species has its oversized versions, including humans. Look at strongman competitors, basketball players, pro wrestlers, etc. A 25' foot great white shark isn't much of a stretch.
Kudos for the pun. 😉
It’s not unbelievable that there is an exceptionally large 23-24 ft great white? Out there somewhere?
Yup Jaws.
No great white shark has been accurately measured over 5.65 m.
Submarine is fake I won't believe this
We have hardly made a dent into what we know in the oceans,so we making presumptions based mainly on sharks relatively close to shore.
Therefore it is not unreasonable to assume there are 25 foot plus great whites out there feeding on huge tuna,other sharks,whales etc.
Think it is logical and there have been enough sightings by experienced fishermen.
@theshape7801
The Submarine was measured as near as can be for a living shark. It swam right next to a 6 metre ski boat and was at least a metre longer than the boat.
Bite marks on whales and humans measured by competent professionals indicate great white sharks in the mid 20s.
Go and speak to the fishermen from the Cape Coloured community, they regularly see Great Whites that are all a lot bigger than the standard...
My dad and his friend fished a lot in Fallsbay in the late 70s and early 80s. His friend was a pro fisherman and every time they went out the shark visited their boat.
I cannot remember the size of his boat as I was about 10 years old but it was not small and was towed by a 5l v8 Ford.
That shark was the length of their boat and would always bite the engine props. When that shark appeared, they stayed for another hour or two as it would take their catch clean of the line. They said it was a feeling on the rod that was just different from other sharks taking the catch.
My dad did not take photos, but his friend did. He gave my dad one, but I can not find it, and I have looked from left to right and top to bottom, and I unfortunately cannot find it.
I’m not closed minded when it comes to extraordinary creatures in the world’s oceans, if he says he’s seen it I believe him. I just choose to not put myself in the position to meet such a beast.
Exactly the same thing happens with crocodiles. So called 'experts' say they max out at 23 feet.Both the saltwater and Nile crocodiles get much bigger than 7 meters.
Any idea where the big Niles are most likely to be? Sounds like a filming mission for the Sharkslive team
They are not bigger than 23 feet, also biggest one was 22.
Every time someone puts experts in quotation marks, bs usually follows.
Well, I can tell you this much: they live bloody long lives if left alone. I saw a 100 year old (estimated) croc called Charlie in the early 90's. He was a BIG, LONG bastard.
I'd look in the Philippines.. Big big salties there. 6 and 7m. Easily..
When we see a video or photo , then we believe maybe.
I m perfectly fine if I only see a 3 inch shark of anykind
Seems the colder the water, the bigger the shark. I live in Washington state and even though the water temp will send you into cardiac arrest without a wetsuit, I'd never be swimming out there regardless.
Wasn't there a 23 ft. Great White caught off of Malta in the Med back in the 70s?
It was actually 1987 and yes it's the biggest Great white ever caught. 7.14 metres and 3 tons off the coast of Malta
It was Gozo and 2 huge whites been found off there.
Yes off the island of Favingana
No great white shark has been accurately measured over 5.65 m.
Submarine is fake I won't believe this
@@theshape7801 Yes i agree that Submarine wasn't real. No Shark has been discovered at 28ft long like they'd have you believe but the 23 ft shark off Malta was real. It was accurately measured
Lets not forget about the beautiful girl 'Deep Blue', she is HUGE!!! 7 metres plus. It never ceases to amaze me with people and their stupid ignorant comments of like 'they dont grow that big'. There is no way anyone will ever point how big they grow to, that's just impossible!!
She is an incredible shark!!!
A difference between 'they don't grow that big' and 'science has never documented one that big'
I agree. If human being's can grow to be 7'& more, who can show facts that sharks can't grow to extra large sizes?
Beg to differ Deep Blue is about 6 m or 20 ft. Google is your friend. No shark expert has claimed she is 7m let alone 7m +.
@@rachelbond7528 Really...your're going to whinge about 1 metre lol, ok. My information was of a CZcams vid from someone who had actually seen her. Granted, it was some years ago so, but she would be well than over 7 metres now. Even at over 6 metres long, another metre doesnt make difference at that point does it, she's still huge. Also, you dont have to be an expert to size a shark... and Karen, dont believe everything google says, it still cant get street maps right!!
Nice big meal for a Orca
I have seen huge whites off the cape while shallow diving, as soon as I saw it I pushed my bilge valves and dropped into the rocks etc. I could see my boat and the shark figure eight swimming around it was atleast 20+ feet in the early 2000’s. We ditched the boat got our spears ready and bottom swam ashore. We picked up the boat later and the fish finder had a 20+ pick up below the boat. There’s more 20+ than we think.
Smart thinking to ditch the boat !
I saw the submarine outside Simons Town once! It’s fin was huge...had a flippin periscope and everything!!😂
Its name was the SAS Maria Van Riebeck. I've seen it too.
I had seen one of your videos about submarine 🦈. And I always thought submarine 🦈 was much bigger than 25. I thought at least 35 to 40. Thank you for sharing this with us 👍👍👍👍
I have his father's book Shark Man. The consensus is that the Submarine was circa 7 metres, so about 23/24 ft. Definitely not 30 ft or more.
I respect the guy who is in the water with these beautiful animals. This guy is just talking straight...no political correctness and no bullshit.
at the entrance to Outer Harbour breakwater South Australia 2010 i saw a submarine go under my jet ski whilst drift fishing for squid.. wasn't a submarine cos a fin broke the surface
Hmmmz very strange You would think at some stage this guy if he had seen this huge shark 3 times he would have taken a video at least on the 2nd or 3rd sighting to make his point more real ??
Submarines do definitively exist. Ron and Valerie Taylor saw them then they disappeared for some time because of sport fishing. Due to the protection they have the species rebounded and submarines have been sighted once again. It’s normal. I’ve been studying sharks for 30+ years.
The largest and real submarine out there is the Soviet built Typhoon class at 175 m or 574 ft.
The ocean is the last part of the earth we have yet to properly explore. Who knows how long some of these sharks can live for and how big they can get? There have been crocodiles way bigger than though possible and they must be way easier to find than any ocean wildlife! We know a lot these days, but anyone who thinks we know everything are deluded.
Thank you for that clarification... I still believe... 30-35fts do exist... the reason we don’t see them is for the same reason we don’t see large crocodiles. They have been around people long enough that they know how to hide from us.
We do see large crocodiles though...
@@donaldvanvliet9039 very rarely
@@jakecroc there is a difference between rarely and never.
@@donaldvanvliet9039 exactly... we have on record bigger crocs killed than Great Whites currently... ever wonder why?
@@jakecroc the point is that we have them on record. We don't have 7meter great Whites on record.
I was swimming and a great white came up behind me, so i showed it a picture of my ex mother in law....
Well it swam backwards and deliberately drowned itself, true story apart from me swimming, the great white, me showing it a photo of my ex mother in law and it drowning itself 😂😂
Ok now on a serious note, well over 30 years ago my dad took his mate out in his 15ft run about fishing for snapper behind Whyalla South Australia when they encounted a huge great white. Long story short my dad told his mate to cut the anchor because the huge noah was charging for the boat, and he swore black and blue that thing was twice as long as his boat and it scared the crap out of him.
The tales ,in the Adelaide and Coastal town pubs ....lol
Everyone knew,if you swim in S.A coasyal areas stick to the basics......cause,could be in shallow,or as it does on Whyalla Beach,just drops straight off into the Spencer.....
And,im like most eh....I think there's probrably been some big sharks nearby!
I wouldn't swim at Whyalla,Cowell,Pt Niell
Lincoln,Ceduna or anywhere near Glenelg, west Beach.....fuck that...
Remember that Nick lad...he was a uni trained marine biologist ,and the witnesses said it was 5.5m conservatively...
Scary shit in SA waters!
Why do u have photos of your ex mother in Law. Did u stalk her
@@shanemarz6742 😂😂 nah mate i just knew if she horrified me in the flesh then her picture should have pretty much the same effect on anything with eyes...... it does!!!!!
@@chrishanslow4825
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Something ate a tagged three meter great White of South Australia, there are some big units out there.
I believe you! 👍
Dude is telling the truth. If he’s not he’s real good at sounding credible while telling a lie. I worked offshore for a couple summers in the early 90’s in the GOM and saw a massive shark 🦈 from the deck of the oil rig. I mean this shark was so large that my adrenaline spiked and I was safe 75 yards or so above the water and that i got tunnel vision around the length and girth that my brain went fuzzy on what the head looked like, meaning it may have been a hammer head or a great white or something else. But I know that it looked bigger than Jaws and it was around 3 to 4 times larger than an 8ft shark we caught.
Probably a whale shark.
I've seen massive sharks in the Caribbean while in Navy. They were attracted to us firing air slugs out of torpedo launchers. We had a fish call and caught a 5ft Remora. I personally seen a 20ft plus. Had to have been a white.
Not really...basking sharks are bigger
@@donaldvanvliet9039 dude you need to get over this basking shark argument you keep throwing up. I've seen several videos of whites, and tigers. Along with basking sharks, and I was very much able to see the differences in them from above the water camera views. And no I have never been out on the ocean in my life. But you can keep arguing with people that spend a great amount of time out there if you want idiot.
@@rustyreese4006 your reading comprehension skills are lacking. The op said he saw a 20ft plus shark and that that 'had to have been a great white'. In other words he determined the species because of the size, not because he recognized it as a great white. So it's perfectly reasonable to remark that great Whites are not the biggest sharks out there. Basking sharks and whale sharks are bigger... Wise men say...only fools rush in...
I have a uncle who was in the Navy and said he will never get back in the water again
From what I read and Saw on video years ago about the Submarine Great white Shark was that it was over 30 ft and very Unusually Smart ,it could actually hover, stay still on the bottom and had excellent vision for a Great White. Crafty.
If you're talking about the Discovery "documentary" about it, I'm not so sure i would trust that, it has been proven many times to be a fake and fabricated.
I'm not saying there's absolutely no possibilities of a shark growing larger than we might think, but most if not all of the "facts" in 'shark of darkness: wrath of submarine' are made up
My father was invested in this shark for a while and showed me footage where submarine was using an oil rig to stay at an angle hovering, it looked menacing. There was also a ship accident by night during which a pleasure boat was sinking and rescue boat with flood lights arrived to the scene to help. This incident alleges that submarine pulled a type of buoy underwater that one of the capsized people was clinging to. Hard to distinguish hown much is real or sensationalized. But I can believe there are huge sharks like Submarine and Deep Blue.
Seen it 3 times hey?, ever thought to film it
I know, for a fact, that I've seen a great hammerhead bigger than 20ft. It was bigger in length than the boat I was on. If a hammerhead can get that big, whites can get much bigger.
Well, Deep Blue is the largest documented shark and she's a lot bigger than most other great whites.
Yeah i believe it's possible that there could be larger sharks than Deep Blue out there.
Now imagine if the Submarine and Deep Blue had babies together ;-)
They would give birth to a blood line of Great Whites that would reach sizes flirting with Megalodon size sharks hehe.
I believe you.
I'm a bird-watcher and the amount of misinformation in scientific journals or resources about the number or types of birds in an area is another huge issue. constantly birds are listed as rare but i see them frequently. i use AI sound to confirm ID by matching the waveforms of their calls.