The Linux File System With A Dark History
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- čas přidán 26. 01. 2024
- The Linux world nowadays primarily runs on filesystems like EXT4, BTRFS and a couple of others but that's not all that's supported and there's one file system called ReiserFS with a really wild history
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SUSE Drops ReiserFS: web.archive.org/web/200611091...
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Most long time Linux users remember this well.
Bear in mind that DARPA funds a lot of weird research that isn't directly-or solely-related to defense. Makes complete sense that they'd be interested in developing a high performance file system if for no reason more interesting than... the US military stores computer files.
before pressing play button: murderfs, or how we call it gently: ReiserFS :D
As soon as I saw the thumbnail, "Yup, he's probably going to talk about ReiserFS", I heard the story.
ReiserFS was truly a godsend in the days. It made HDD usage bearable when dealing with huge projects scattered between tons of smallish files (like, well, compiling Linux kernels which was more or less mandatory at the time). But the uncertainty of its future after Hans arrest and conviction certainly gave many (me included) cold feet and many switched back to Ext3, which coincidentally was really on the rise at that time.
ReiserFS... The killer filesystem that eventually became a killer's filesystem.
I don't get why the crime of the author makes a difference to the use of the fs. It's not that the murder was connected with the fs development or such.
Shishkin is a hero. Back in the days, he basically "destroyed" reputation of BTRFS by one of his posts. :) He was interviewed by members of Russian site Habr twice (the latest interview was in 2021) and he was talking about why the FS wasn't included in the mainline and why he actually doesn't care much about it. The sad part is that according to him, he was offered a sponsorship to develop Reiser4 by some company, but he refused because he would need to move to another country and he said that he is too old for this.
Reiser3 was my FS of choice on rotational HDDs back when SSDs and btrfs were not a thing. It had good seeking times and file removals were near-instant compared to EXT3 where that time is proportionate to file size and becomes non-negligible if you have many files to remove or a large one.
I remember using ReiserFS instead of ext2/3 because it was significatly faster in my own experience, but when ext4 was released I switched to it and never looked back
My superstitious old boss wouldn't use RiserFS after the conviction. He also belived debian was bad luck after Ian Murdock's death.
ReiserFS was truly a killer file system
I ran Reiser 4 on a Gentoo box around 2005 or so, and it was stupid fast (this was before the SSD days, people forget just how slow spinning disks were as OS disk). The only problem was that there was a non-zero chance it destroyed its superblock and thereby lost all data on an unclean shutdown like a power loss, kernel panic, hard reset, etc.
I used ReiserFS back in the day. On Mandrake, and maybe Slackware too (not sure if the latter was Reiser or ext3).
"change to basically anything else"
People should learn from the prison systems in the Nordic, for example the Norwegian prison system.
ReiserFS was one of my favorite filesystems back in the early '00s. I had a Pentium 3 laptop with a slow as molasses spinning hard drive. (As we all did)
As soon as I saw the title of this video I knew it had to be about ReiserFS. Never really used that file system, but I was using Linux when the news came out about the creator of the project did.
Re the questions you ask, yes, I have been part of the Linux community since 1998 (running Linux and contributing), and yes I did use Reiser versions 2 and 3 when it was a better option at the time. Now I use XFS for most systems I run, both at work and at home. Having been involved at one point with the NTFS project for Linux, I was saddened when it was found that Hans had killed his wife, Nina. After reading through his letter, I really do believe he is a different person than I interacted with on various mailing lists.
I never used ReiserFS myself, but it was pretty popular when I first started using Linux. Didn't find out that the creator was imprisoned until much much later.