if you read the notice it actually confirms what I said in the video, which I think is timing so perfect I wouldn't believe it wasn't fake if I was you
@@djdoolittle1315 Or what? Seriously, what do you think you can do if I say I think illegal riders are a pain and should be controlled by ramming if necessary? 🤣🤣🤣
Yes it happened where I live; e scooters, cyclists old people in tanks, they go on the path and road, with no issues with cops or pcsos, and I have never seen any of them hit anyone, I only had one old guy in a tank drive over my foot, it was ok it did not hurt and I can walk he can't.
@@micahpartridge6122 doesnt mean it was illegal. Look at the physics behind the electric motor. It isnt "mechanically propelled". It's "electromagnetically repulsed" and I dont think the law covers the electric motor at all.
Have to have license to ride a scooter, even Xiaomi and also doing so it is still illegal. Rental, no need for any of that... and that is all for "safety" right? Yet instead of making people wear helmets and other safety gear, the actual goal is to tax and profit from people.
That's all its about the fact they can't tax you or charge you for using one. So they make them illegal to own privately and then rent them to you so they can make money off it. It's a joke of a system and I bet one of the mp's has his hand in the pie that rents these scooters out
To rent one requires a licence insurance is included in the rental charge. Nothing to do with tax, vat charged the same as cars and likely VED (road tax) free the same as electric cars if and when they are fully legalised.
@@TheShudder77 don't require a proper licence I believe its just a provisional and the insurance part why not just allow you to insure your self on your own one.
@@MegaNayton, yes part Q required which is usually included with a provisional. Joe public can't buy insurance for them as you can't insure something that is illegal 🤷♂️.
😃 yes exactly, as lets be honest it is a dumb law, - Yes it happened where I live; e scooters, cyclists old people in tanks, they go on the path and road, with no issues with cops or pcsos, and I have never seen any of them hit anyone, I only had one old guy in a tank drive over my foot, it was ok it did not hurt and I can walk he can't.
i am disabled and can not walk far , i got one of these after the first lockdown , i love it , no more taxies costing £6 + to go to the doctors or hospital appointments , i have been asked to leave in the corridor outside the room i'm in , thats ok , i never go over 15 miles per hour , never been stopped by police , but i do see alot of younger riders being stupid with them ,
I can see why so many Brits have left Britain over the years. Living in tiny houses in such a regulated society makes the vast diaspora of former colonies very appealing.
I own a S1 Xiaomi {the slightly lighter version} but basically the same in every way. I work as a trade plate vehicle delivery driver I use it all the time to get me from delivery site to either train station bus stop bus station or if close enough to the next collection point. It is for me a very important part of my equipment i carry around. I carry a spare genuine charger in my back pack to top up the charge on the train and when i am delivering the next vehicle i also carry an inverter so i can charge it up on me journey in the car {very useful}. I know they are illegal to use but as he says other than getting to my next job they are great fun and you see things you would never normally see if in a car. It wont be long before they are legal they will have to if you see how many there is being used on cycle paths ect. I always get a smile from everyone i pass and i always say good morning to them. Or perhaps its because im 60 years old riding one of these im not sure all i know is when im on it riding it i feel like 15 years old great fun. :)
Fun, yes, but your job relies on your driving licence, does it not? A VERY poor decision to wilfully use a mechanically propelled vehicle without insurance. I'll bet you wouldn't dream of driving any of the vehicles you deliver without being insured, would you? You really need to rethink your choices - If you have a family, they rely on you. Do you really want to put them through grief, all because "they are great fun and you see things you would never normally see if in a car"?
Im from london ,15 and have an aovo pro m365 that goes 19mph(factory setting) on sports mode and ride it everywhere, so im basically breaking every single law there is on the scooter but ive been past many police vehicles and patrol units and never had an issue, Theres a lot of them in london like a majority of my neighbors who are older use them to get to work and its just apart of daily life, these scooters being illegal is just silly considering the rest of europe has basically legalised them and the uk is behind
@@PalestineWillBeFreeInshaAllah1 I sold it not long ago after i crashed it and fixed it up. It was a good scooter only issue was that the battery life goes down quickly within a year and to get replacement parts is quite difficult if you ever need them. I know i had the first model and now theyre is a 2nd version which is better
Hey can you give me like a little review by replying to this comment because I’m thinking of copping one either tmr or after maybe also is it still great after a month
@@S.I.A.R908 hey, sure no problem. It's incredibly well made, sturdy with a nice finish. The tyres are solid as a rock and bigger than what you find on alot of comparable scooters. Still getting around 18 miles off a full charge and haven't had any issues with it, other than the paranoia of trying to avoid police It's a joy to ride
In Quebec a couple was fined 2000$CAD for walking outside after curfew. It made the news here because the woman was holding a leash on her boyfriend and said she was walking her dog
Pure Air Pro is worth a look, air filled tyres with puncher fluid protection and you can ride it through puddles no issues. Interesting video, perfect timing cos we have to keep to laws of the land until told otherwise.
Four months later and the police are really cracking down on e-scooters; £300 fine and 6 points on your licence, plus you may even get it confiscated and have to pay another £150 to get it back. A bit of a backward step in my not-so-humble opinion.
Couldn't care less about the punishments. That's how messed up this country is, stopping people's freedoms, The UK sucks, there is only few places in Europe that don't allow e scooters, UK being one of them. I'll ride it if I want too, I stay in bike lanes so I know I'm being careful and not stupid. Police half the time don't even care about e scooters, hence there is so many people riding them. It won't stop me riding mine, legal or not.
i find that stupid if your scooter can goes faster then 15mph its not legal? so my Civic can reach 130mph does that mean i cant drive it ? dont make sense
You mean from one of the 12 month trial schemes that have been put in place for the government to collect evidence on their use prior to legislation possibly being rolled out to those under private ownership?
@@allypksm, apparently not. The trial was extended with the findings due to be published in June 2022. However as per normal with government this has been delayed and expected to form part of the Transport Bill with the proposals now due to be debated by parliament later this year. There were some interim changes made last year from data collated during the initial trials such as the hire scheme ones having to have unique identifiers (like number plates) and early data suggested that accident frequency is a lot higher than that of bicycles.
Hey. First time watching. Good vid. It really annoys me that they are not pushing these for a green transport. Rental scooters are not the way. Private owners have more respect.
I bought an electric scooter 20 years ago. Probably twice the weight of one of these and the range only 4-5 miles! I asked at the police station and they told me it was illegal to ride on the road back then! So it's frustrating that here we are 2 decades later and the law still hasn't caught up. The idea that you can say this e-scooter is legal because it's hired and that one's illegal if you own it, just makes the law look like the proverbial ass. I see several e-scooters every day and no sign that police are stopping riders. I wonder if they are doing in Liverpool just because there is a hire scheme.
I'm not so sure UK police deserves your praise in this case. Electric scooters are also technically illegal in my country (somewhere in the EU), but the police has decided against enforcing the law, reasoning they are already quite widespread and it wouldn't be reasonable.
yeah the more I watch this looks like enforcement for people to use public transport or other transports where people pay more and pay taxes, because escooters are cheap and avoid a lot of fees. So it is better to have city packed with cars idiotic... I do not mind having a plate on scooter and allowing it to drive on a road just do not limit the speed! Sure some people will crash but same happens when they drive motorcycles or cars or bicycles...
I'm a bit late to the party, but I have to argue with the "there's not another form of transport where you go at this speed while standing up" Onewheels and EUCs have been around for years and EUCs can go MUCH faster. Up to 40 mph and even higher these days. I'm getting my sea-legs on an EUC currently and don't think I could do an e-scooter, but all the PEVs are so much fun.
You weren’t actually riding it when they spotted you. I wonder whether the outcome would’ve been different if they had. These things will get banned before they’re even made legal.
I doubt it. The whole idea of the hire escooters in some cities is to trial them with a view to possibly giving them an exemption, like ebikes. In any case, those weren't police officers.
Over 2000km on my m365pro, while they are decent scooters they do have some problems, like the folding mechanism, its very easy to snap a pin that holds the main latch, ive snapped and broke it on mine around 10+ times and its very dodgy when it happens at full speed. speed hacking works well, your able to set a differnt max speed for each mode, i use 15kph in eco, 25kph in drive and 35kph in sports. the speed flash also makes it able to climb far bigger hills without losing all its speed, an example of this would be a hill near me, could hit it at 25kph and reach the top after dropping down to 10kph, now modded i hit the hill at 25, and reach the top of the hill still above 20kph ;)
Hey Toycat just so you know the scooter does actually have a front brake, it is a KERS brake that basically works as a dynomao to charge the Battery and charge the scooter
In Oxford headington they are rented out and are dotted around the city. Does that mean it is an illegal company that will be opened up for legal action if someone kills someone gets killed.
Stopped me twice on mine, sold it after a few months. Been going round on a 30mph full sus e-bike since, they haven't stopped me on that yet for some strange reason.
@@AndrewAnd I loved the scooter, when legal I'll have anotherone again. But the bike, I bought a 2010 Kona stab £700, bafang bbshd 1000watt for £600 and 22ah lithium battery £350 which is in a back pack on my back, should get me 40 miles max. because I've back packed the battery, the bike doesn't look like an e-bike till you see the motor under the pedals.
@@AndrewAnd me too. I bought solar p1 e scooter 40mph. I have to send it back because there’s so many police round here in east London and I can’t risk losing it. I’m tempted to buy e bike . I found a great 1 but it’s bit expensive at about £1900.
@@gteaz good job + Nice and stealthy. The thing is I think they will largely leave ebikes alone and eventually concentrate on the scooters firstly. otherwise Imagine trying to work out if a bicycle is correctly pedal assist or not or if it's power is within the law. all a bit trickier than picking on an e scooter rider to get off the roads and paths.
27:33 Was gonna suggest that Boosted scooter is available in Wick Boards store in Hackney Wick, as that's where I actually saw one in real life in London. But seems the store is now permanently closed lol.
as someone who has ridden those slower 19mph top speed scooters with the very slim deck, i would advise against buying one. my first scooter was the Hi Boy Titan Pro and it costs around $1300, has a top speed of 30mph and a range of 40 miles (probably realistically like 25-30 miles). the scooters with the narrow decks are terrible for comfort and you will end up having like 90% of your weight on your back foot which gets painful very quickly. the hiboy titan pro has a wide and comfortable deck, and it also has the option to run one back motor in economy mode or both motors for the full speed and amazing acceleration. if you're planning on buying a $500 scooter, you might aswell buy once cry once and buy the more expensive, much more comfortable, much longer range and faster scooters. the hiboy titan i have is sufficient for any city commuting. the $1700 varla eagle is also an even better option for not much more price. that being said, im about to drop $4000 on a wolf king GT which goes 62 mph with a 75+ mile range if used in eco mode. that one is truly the buy once cry once model lol... i like fun toys though, and i realize a $4000 toy is not in most peoples budget. i just feel like any young person with a decent income would regret buying an uncomfortable slow scooter and would eventually end up buying a more expensive one later anyways and have the slow one end up collecting dust in a closet, or be sold for a huge discount if you've never rode a scooter, obviously rent one or borrow a friends and see if you enjoy them before spending money on one.
That's why there's options, buy what meets your needs, if you're traveling a few miles to a train station, on a train then a few miles to work at the other end, you don't need or want an enormous wolf warrior that can do 50mph for 50 miles, something like an m365 is perfect. If you want to go out exploring the countryside off road climbing dirt tracks on a 30 mile loop, then obviously an m365 is not for you
Wow, perfect timing indeed. It's reassurring to know that Merseyside police will only take action where there is a blatant misuse of the vehicle and an offence has been committed.
He committed every offence in the book in that video. Missing out red lights riding on pavements,riding close to children and animals, what would it be like if he had a meet up with all his electro head scooter toffs? That park would not be safe for families.
@@raykeogh1972 I Have a scooter myself. I stick to the rules and the police have not bothered me though they've seen me loads of times on it. You could argue 'it's illegal, therefore I'm breaking the rules just by riding it' They're here to stay mate. Get used to it.
@@raykeogh1972 would it "not be safe for families" if he met up in the park with all his cycling mates on bikes instead? Or would that be ok simply because you've grown up with bikes and find them acceptable? Times move on and change isn't inherently dangerous and bad, a bunch of kids racing through a busy park on bicycles could pose just as much risk to young children and pets etc
GOV should WAKE UP to the fact that Private sales of E Scooters have gone through the roof. Last checked Halford's sales up by 400 per cent. Just make it a legal requirement to have at least Third Party #Insurance.
I think most of the issues in the USA come from the rented scooters not from those that are privately owned, which is odd that the UK would go rented over privately owned.
Because they claim that it insures the rider in the case of an accident. When in reality its to line the pockets of who ever made the rules up on escooters
@@MegaNayton It's odd I could understand the insurance thing if all bicycles had to have insurance as well, but they don't. I could understand it if the govt turned around and said as from a certain date all vehicles that use the road must carry a basic insurance then ok, bicycles get into a lot more accidents than Escooters do, perhaps because there are more of them, but still the point stands, scratched cars, dents, collisions with pedestrians in record numbers at the moment since the big uptake apparently. But the govt is not saying that, they want the smallest, vehicle to pay insurance when a bike doesn't have to. Have you seen the bike car, someone took an old car stripped it down and turned it into a bicycle and even that needs no insurance. czcams.com/video/sjCjbV2EnJ4/video.html Check it out no insurance, no MOT, no Road tax, no license, and can be used in cycle lanes and paths where it fits obviously. Perfectly legal on UK roads. And yet an Escooter which is a fraction of the size of this or even anything bigger, have you seen those multi pedal vehicles that crawl around cities. Again the same as above.
Can someone explain how these are legal to hire, like here in Liverpool yet illegal to buy and ride? Realise there's meant to be an ID used on the app but I see loads of under 18's on them, not being a kill joy, just asking.
The Government make money from the rental companies. They're still working out how to make money from private owners. Anything that's fun has to be taxed in the UK.
@@rickparkinmoto Don't talk nonsense. The idea of the rental scheme is specifically to trial escooters to see if they can be exempted from road trafic law like ebikes. They were exempted years ago, and there are no requirements for licence, insurance, tax etc. The reason they are using rental ones for the trial is because an escooter is a mechanically propelled vehicle under UK law and therefore needs to be insured.
In my country and state scooters are allowed but only on footpath and some bike lanes in city. If only rentals were allowed I'd just get stickers for mine and make its look like a rental....
in California I'm able to buy an aovopro which essentially the same thing that goes 19 mph (which is plenty fast on the thing) and only cost $200 USD 😊
Impressed with your vid and your honest take on the scooter.... writing this while still watching ... and hoping you will mention something about the suspension, I noticed when you drove over cobbles there was hardly any movement? Is this because of your go pro? Camera?. Do you feel the bumpy ride when going over cobbles and up and down curbs?. Also do you wear a skid lid ( hat) ?
NO e-scooter is legal ANYWHERE the public move-about in the UK, whether that be a park, pavement, or road. You can only use it on private land with the landowner's permission, or I believe, if it's an officially RENTED scooter from some legit company.
@@S.I.A.R908 Land can be private land and still be a public place. This distinction confuses a lot of people. A place is a public place if no measures have been taken to prevent members of the public from entering, to stop being a public place it needs to have fences, walls, locked gates or similar.
Personally, I find the 15.5mph limit fine (on my e-bike); I wouldn't want to go much faster than that...and I think I'd feel even more so on a scooter - which I probably *_will_* get once they're legalized in the UK; they look quite fun. And I see the roads in Liverpool look just as bad as the roads in Ipswich. The real teller in the letter handed out at the end of the video is the last line: "Merseyside Police will only take action where there is a blatant misuse of these vehicles and traffic offences have been committed".
@@rikilamaru this is my argument about e bikes being restricted to 15.5 mph a Lycra clad guy left me for dead on a proper high end rd bike. He was easily doing 30 as he passed me. Unfortunately I have chronic lung disease so the only bike possible to ride is an e-bike on max assist. 250 w is too low. A 500 or 750 restricted to 15.5 with no shut off, aka just keep the motor constantly assisting would be much better. But the speed restriction is stupid. Even 20mph would be much better
The case of Burns v Currell (1963) has become the standard case to apply when asking whether a vehicle is intended for use on the road. It would appear that the vehicle would have to be used more than once before something such as an off road scramble bike could be considered to be a motor vehicle unless the owner adapted it for on road use for example by the fitting of lights and road tyres. Clearly your bicycle was intended for road use.
That case concerned MOTOR VEHICLES which are a different beast to escooters, which are mechanically propelled vehicles. To use a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road or public place requires insurance unless (like ebikes and mobility scooters) it is exempt. Riding one anywhere other than on private property (with permission) leaves you liable to a hefty fine and six points. The hire ones that are being used in the trials in some city centres are insured and also comply with guidelines regarding power, weight, speed etc. I the trial is successful, then escooters complying to speed, weight and power requirements may be exempted as well.
@@robertstallard7836 I used to be an expert witness called in the many Goped cases & have been to court many times. I was at the Saddington case at the High Court in London on behalf of the legal team (twice) & the first electric scooter case in Winchester so trust me The test case for ANY SCOOTER is Burns vs Currell. Only motor vehicles need to have insurance MOT road tax licence etc. look up the verdict & read the whole thing. A scooter is not a motor vehicle as no sane person would say take it as transport to Scotland & back.
@@TheShudder77 I used to sell this type of scooter. It had joke pedals fitted to the front wheels about 1 inch long! The importer was trying to make the scooter into an electric bike but he did not follow the 15mph cut out & pedal switch. I had insurance as most home insurance policies cover you to ride bikes & damage you cause. This case was not represented very well. Read this & pay attention to the last part: www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5b46f2212c94e0775e7f273f
Check out your house insurance as most cover bush bikes. Take a copy with you & show it to plod. Ask plod if you can take your driving test on the scooter? They will say no as it's not a motor vehicle.... aaaaahhhhh Ask if you can take your scooter on the M1 they will say no it's not a motor vehicle.... aaahhhhhh What ever way you look at it an Electric scooter is less of a motor vehicle then a Go Cart & a Go Cart is not a motor vehicle....
Legally you would need tax mot and insurance on it but I don’t think any of that is available so really you should only use them on private land unless you hire one from the main city’s then your covered
My brother had his mi 2 Pro scooter confiscated by the UK police put it on the back off the truck but my brother knows the law and within 5 days he got it back minus the fine he had to pay was about £150 to £180 but got it back he did the police never told him he could get it back and if thease videos I watch I never see the reviewer say this ether on any video or am I missing something
I can't believe the cops and and pcsos have paper in their car etc to say "oh the government said they are illegal to use them on public places" what a waste of paper and money
Hear me out Andrew, why have a scooter when you Could have a electric bike? like a rad wagon is more powerful and can carry two people with cargo for less than 2k usd? I don't understand the appeal somewhat, but I'm happy to hear out. skill maybe? less needed to use a scooter maybe compared to a bike. QnA Andrew day
I own a S1 Xiaomi {the slightly lighter version} but basically the same in every way. I work as a trade plate vehicle delivery driver I use it all the time to get me from delivery site to either train station bus stop bus station or if close enough to the next collection point. It is for me a very important part of my equipment i carry around. I carry a spare genuine charger in my back pack to top up the charge on the train and when i am delivering the next vehicle i also carry an inverter so i can charge it up on me journey in the car {very useful}. I know they are illegal to use but as he says other than getting to my next job they are great fun and you see things you would never normally see if in a car. It wont be long before they are legal they will have to if you see how many there is being used on cycle paths ect. I always get a smile from everyone i pass and i always say good morning to them. Or perhaps its because im 60 years old riding one of these im not sure all i know is when im on it riding it i feel like 15 years old great fun. :)
If you are an apartment dweller in the city it's much more convenient. I had a Radrunner but I ended up selling it and getting an Emove Cruiser scooter. For one it collapses and weighs about half the weight so going up and down flights of stairs with it is much easier. Much less of a hassle to take on public transport. Don't have to worry about people stealing it because I can put it in my locker at work or bring it into stores with me. It has IPX6 water resistance rating so I'm less worried about water reaching the controller(with the Radrunner it is completely exposed to the elements). Oh and one last thing is that you have a better performance/weight ratio. Since the frame of a scooter weighs less than that of a bike, you actually get better speed and range with identical drive trains.
ive looked into electric bikes and when compared to scooters there is no comparison in capabilities. maybe im looking in the wrong place, but from what ive seen even the most expensive bikes have a 20-30mph top speed and a pretty low range, but yes i realize its a bike with pedals, so even when dead it still can go. that being said, for $1700 you can get a 36mph Varla scooter with a 30 mile or so range, or $3800 for a wolf king GT and literally can go full throttle 62 mph for 55 miles. i looked into electric dirt bikes and they are fairly capable, but their prices are absurd and im not about to spend $12,000 on a KTM Edirt bike, well at least not at the moment lol. all that being said, i live in a house and storage space isnt an issue. as others have mentioned, scooters are lightweight, can fold to store in a closet or be transported in a car trunk, they are easier to carry up stairs into an apartment etc.
LOL watching this while playing elder scrolls online and as this jogger 18:27 runs by a character in game yells "Break a leg and get a move on" It was pretty funny :D
yes I have been riding electric scooters for over 15 years police are ok in my area as long as your driving with due care and attention then it's not a problem but I only stick to the pavement so it's not much of a issue the law does need to change still stuck in the Jurassic period
I hear what you are saying and I agree 100%. I am getting one however, you have to obey red lights. This is part of the problem why people are against them. Check 23:38. Yes you did go on the pavement, but after going through the red light. Good video and informative though mate 👍
I think these e scooters are great, the government is always going on about reducing the carbon footprint why are they illegal? Why do shops sell these e scooters knowing that people can't use them for transportation as they are road illegal? It's so confusing I was going to purchase one. But people can purchase an E bike.
@@christheobald6183 I’ve been hit by bicycles on pavements more times than I can count and it’s all been by 16 year olds riding on one wheel in shopping ereas.the kids think we have vision from behind.
Where I live be you can't go out for 10 mins without getting chased, I ridden my new scooter twice😱 I can't afford points on my license, especially ones for driving without insurance, That offence stays on license for 6yrs😰
I have never been stop by police at all. The police in london just watches as i ride by on speed up a high going less than 8mph but if i do the law is so messed up read it and it doesn't makes sense never
That’s a fair comment,but where do you draw the line with regards insurance,push bikes,ebikes,mobility scooters,maybe public liability insurance for pedestrians,people with pushchairs,etc,etc.
Some cars don’t have road tax applied according to age of vehicle (vintage cars) or they’re cheaper to tax according to their emissions! Perhaps tax should be equated to emission rather than road use?
Hang on they say it’s illegal in public yet not far from where I live they have them where you can hire them and it’s a busy place so how come you can hire one but they are illegal
I love escooters but I sold my 40mph beast due to worries of impoundation. Road cycling fills in that speed fix for now. No where near as convenient or portable. 15.5mph is pathetic if you live in the country, my Grandmama could do that on a BMX.
where I live; e scooters, cyclists old people in tanks, they go on the path and road, with no issues with cops or pcsos, and I have never seen any of them hit anyone, I only had one old guy in a tank drive over my foot, it was ok it did not hurt and I can walk he can't.
I use mine anyway if you can ride an E bike that can do 30 mph why can’t you ride a scooter that’s smaller and slower it makes 0 sense I’ve had police try and stop me on mine but I just ride off
I'm lost 🤔 , why is a E scooter illegal over there ? Is it because you need a plate for it .....i thought that they were ok with anything electric from cars to scooters
A letter is not the worst you can get. You can get done for no insurance, no road tax, no type approval, no mot, no licence etc etc. 6 points for no insurance on your licence as a starter, even if you don't have a licence yet and a large fine. Also scooters when they are made legal will be regulated to a designated max speed, lights front and back, to a designated power output etc. None of the manufacturers know what the regulations will be so most if not all of the scooters, which have been already bought probably will not comply with the regulations for regulated scooters, when they are made legal. So I would not buy one yet until the regulated scooters are sold by the manufacturers.
Disappointed with the ending. I was hoping to see a police chase with the scooter going max speed down small alleyways.
😃 nah pcso can't do that thst need thd handcuffs
With the grand finale of a scooter being rammed off the road by a police car, the way the Met deal with scooter thieves.
Makes me smile every time.
That’s me 😂☝️
@@finbarrsaunders8688 save it , arsehole
@@djdoolittle1315 Or what? Seriously, what do you think you can do if I say I think illegal riders are a pain and should be controlled by ramming if necessary?
🤣🤣🤣
Even though it's illegal where I live I've passed SO many police and sometimes they'd stop me and ask where they could buy one...
For real fuk em mate Idgaf my bike my choice lol, I enjoy my 50mph e-bike also Im a v skilled rider so always careful when out
@@kingdomreturn304 catch me if you can coppers
😃 I am glad that law dont work for them e scooters
@@kingdomreturn304 yes same path and road
Yes it happened where I live; e scooters, cyclists old people in tanks, they go on the path and road, with no issues with cops or pcsos, and I have never seen any of them hit anyone, I only had one old guy in a tank drive over my foot, it was ok it did not hurt and I can walk he can't.
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toycat & the Merseyside police:
Toycat: this is illegal *proceeds to break the law*
I don't think he is breaking the law.
@@sleepingwarrior4618 he literally got fined for it once
@@micahpartridge6122 doesnt mean it was illegal. Look at the physics behind the electric motor. It isnt "mechanically propelled". It's "electromagnetically repulsed" and I dont think the law covers the electric motor at all.
@@sleepingwarrior4618 they class electric scooters as "motorised vehicles"
@@englandismycity8571 The law doesnt cover motorised vehicles. It covers "mechanically propelled" vehicles....unless there is a new one out?
Have to have license to ride a scooter, even Xiaomi and also doing so it is still illegal. Rental, no need for any of that... and that is all for "safety" right? Yet instead of making people wear helmets and other safety gear, the actual goal is to tax and profit from people.
That's all its about the fact they can't tax you or charge you for using one. So they make them illegal to own privately and then rent them to you so they can make money off it. It's a joke of a system and I bet one of the mp's has his hand in the pie that rents these scooters out
To rent one requires a licence insurance is included in the rental charge.
Nothing to do with tax, vat charged the same as cars and likely VED (road tax) free the same as electric cars if and when they are fully legalised.
@@TheShudder77 don't require a proper licence I believe its just a provisional and the insurance part why not just allow you to insure your self on your own one.
@@MegaNayton, yes part Q required which is usually included with a provisional. Joe public can't buy insurance for them as you can't insure something that is illegal 🤷♂️.
its inline with The Great Reset where we will own nothing and be happy, renting it instead.
4:12 "third channel - don't care" transition
WAS THINKING EXACTLY THAT
I know how to get into toycats phone now
Now we run out and take it
I love the way you ride it around the streets and the roads whilst saying its illegal to ride.
😃 yes exactly, as lets be honest it is a dumb law, - Yes it happened where I live; e scooters, cyclists old people in tanks, they go on the path and road, with no issues with cops or pcsos, and I have never seen any of them hit anyone, I only had one old guy in a tank drive over my foot, it was ok it did not hurt and I can walk he can't.
i am disabled and can not walk far , i got one of these after the first lockdown , i love it , no more taxies costing £6 + to go to the doctors or hospital appointments , i have been asked to leave in the corridor outside the room i'm in , thats ok , i never go over 15 miles per hour , never been stopped by police , but i do see alot of younger riders being stupid with them ,
They don't want us having cheap transportation
More proof that we live in a simulation considering that ending?
yes yes yes
YES
its amazing how passionate toycat is about the scooter
They actualy a pretty cool tech,much better then bicycles
I have owned for many years. It feels like your flying when looking straight ahead.
Police really be cracking down on e scooters over gangs using motorbikes to rob people
easier to do 🤷🏼♂️
+ people sitting on benches.
Nah it's not true,more and more scooters are popping up everywhere in uk now
I can see why so many Brits have left Britain over the years. Living in tiny houses in such a regulated society makes the vast diaspora of former colonies very appealing.
People are risking their lives to cross to the UK from France. It can't be too bad.
I own a S1 Xiaomi {the slightly lighter version} but basically the same in every way. I work as a trade plate vehicle delivery driver I use it all the time to get me from delivery site to either train station bus stop bus station or if close enough to the next collection point. It is for me a very important part of my equipment i carry around. I carry a spare genuine charger in my back pack to top up the charge on the train and when i am delivering the next vehicle i also carry an inverter so i can charge it up on me journey in the car {very useful}. I know they are illegal to use but as he says other than getting to my next job they are great fun and you see things you would never normally see if in a car. It wont be long before they are legal they will have to if you see how many there is being used on cycle paths ect. I always get a smile from everyone i pass and i always say good morning to them. Or perhaps its because im 60 years old riding one of these im not sure all i know is when im on it riding it i feel like 15 years old great fun. :)
Fun, yes, but your job relies on your driving licence, does it not? A VERY poor decision to wilfully use a mechanically propelled vehicle without insurance. I'll bet you wouldn't dream of driving any of the vehicles you deliver without being insured, would you?
You really need to rethink your choices - If you have a family, they rely on you. Do you really want to put them through grief, all because "they are great fun and you see things you would never normally see if in a car"?
@@robertstallard7836 Karen
Toycat tries to explain why he's allowed to break the law for 33 minutes
Yes. Its no fun at all when one of these is coming at you on the pavement.
Is this man outside the law ?
An utterly pointless law that almost nobody takes seriously. Yeah, he's a real hardened criminal.
@@captaincaveman8532 Yeah, pointless until one of them injures you so you can't work, pay your bills and feed your family.
@@finbarrsaunders8688 you shouldn’t leave your house in that case. Stay inside where it’s safe!
@@jefflawrence5835 Nahhh, I'll drive around outside looking for dickheads on scooters that I can run over.
Im from london ,15 and have an aovo pro m365 that goes 19mph(factory setting) on sports mode and ride it everywhere, so im basically breaking every single law there is on the scooter but ive been past many police vehicles and patrol units and never had an issue, Theres a lot of them in london like a majority of my neighbors who are older use them to get to work and its just apart of daily life, these scooters being illegal is just silly considering the rest of europe has basically legalised them and the uk is behind
Hey do you still have the aovo pro? Is it a good scooter?
@@PalestineWillBeFreeInshaAllah1 I sold it not long ago after i crashed it and fixed it up. It was a good scooter only issue was that the battery life goes down quickly within a year and to get replacement parts is quite difficult if you ever need them. I know i had the first model and now theyre is a 2nd version which is better
I have one myself I think they're really good it stops motorbike theft
awkward interaction with police wearing a sock puppet?
They are not police officers.
Iplod. No sweat
Got my 2nd Gen Pure Air today, it's a really nicely made bit of kit and the acceleration is great, definitely worth a look
Hey can you give me like a little review by replying to this comment because I’m thinking of copping one either tmr or after maybe also is it still great after a month
@@S.I.A.R908 hey, sure no problem. It's incredibly well made, sturdy with a nice finish. The tyres are solid as a rock and bigger than what you find on alot of comparable scooters. Still getting around 18 miles off a full charge and haven't had any issues with it, other than the paranoia of trying to avoid police It's a joy to ride
@@axeratedmofo thanks a lot for replying I appreciate a review from someone that’s had it for a while I hope u enjoy it and don’t get caught
Just to let you know I have bought the pure scooter and I’m really happy with it it’s amazingly fun and fast lol but thanks for helping out
@@S.I.A.R908 awesome! Hope you enjoy it as much as I do, happy to have helped :)
I subscribed just for the commentary - this guy is hilarious 😂😂😂 plus I just got this scooter
In Quebec a couple was fined 2000$CAD for walking outside after curfew. It made the news here because the woman was holding a leash on her boyfriend and said she was walking her dog
Most men feel that way.
Pure Air Pro is worth a look, air filled tyres with puncher fluid protection and you can ride it through puddles no issues. Interesting video, perfect timing cos we have to keep to laws of the land until told otherwise.
Four months later and the police are really cracking down on e-scooters; £300 fine and 6 points on your licence, plus you may even get it confiscated and have to pay another £150 to get it back. A bit of a backward step in my not-so-humble opinion.
Let’s hope things will change . Happy riding m8
Thing is, that’s not the worst you get. You get it seized, fined and points added to your license
Only if they catch you
Couldn't care less about the punishments. That's how messed up this country is, stopping people's freedoms, The UK sucks, there is only few places in Europe that don't allow e scooters, UK being one of them. I'll ride it if I want too, I stay in bike lanes so I know I'm being careful and not stupid. Police half the time don't even care about e scooters, hence there is so many people riding them. It won't stop me riding mine, legal or not.
i find that stupid if your scooter can goes faster then 15mph its not legal? so my Civic can reach 130mph does that mean i cant drive it ? dont make sense
What really gets my goat is, e scooters are illegal on public land, but various councils will rent you one. Now there's a scam if ever there was.
You mean from one of the 12 month trial schemes that have been put in place for the government to collect evidence on their use prior to legislation possibly being rolled out to those under private ownership?
@@TheShudder77 How about now, 2 years later? Have they gathered enough evidence?
@@allypksm, apparently not. The trial was extended with the findings due to be published in June 2022. However as per normal with government this has been delayed and expected to form part of the Transport Bill with the proposals now due to be debated by parliament later this year.
There were some interim changes made last year from data collated during the initial trials such as the hire scheme ones having to have unique identifiers (like number plates) and early data suggested that accident frequency is a lot higher than that of bicycles.
I'm so black I don't even want the hassle
"Man does his job"
Toycat, breaking the law: So he's an NPC
Hey. First time watching. Good vid.
It really annoys me that they are not pushing these for a green transport. Rental scooters are not the way. Private owners have more respect.
Private owners won't just abandon them in the middle of the pavement and walk away.
How often do you get stopped in a untaxed,uninsured car and get given a letter.
I bought an electric scooter 20 years ago. Probably twice the weight of one of these and the range only 4-5 miles! I asked at the police station and they told me it was illegal to ride on the road back then!
So it's frustrating that here we are 2 decades later and the law still hasn't caught up. The idea that you can say this e-scooter is legal because it's hired and that one's illegal if you own it, just makes the law look like the proverbial ass.
I see several e-scooters every day and no sign that police are stopping riders. I wonder if they are doing in Liverpool just because there is a hire scheme.
so if you cycle for 30 minutes your likely to get stopped ? they need to make them legal but subject to same rules as ebikes
I'm not so sure UK police deserves your praise in this case. Electric scooters are also technically illegal in my country (somewhere in the EU), but the police has decided against enforcing the law, reasoning they are already quite widespread and it wouldn't be reasonable.
yeah the more I watch this looks like enforcement for people to use public transport or other transports where people pay more and pay taxes, because escooters are cheap and avoid a lot of fees. So it is better to have city packed with cars idiotic... I do not mind having a plate on scooter and allowing it to drive on a road just do not limit the speed! Sure some people will crash but same happens when they drive motorcycles or cars or bicycles...
i ordered the eScooteroo E9Pro from amazon last thursday it will hopefully arrive today or tomorrow. i cant wait
I'm a bit late to the party, but I have to argue with the "there's not another form of transport where you go at this speed while standing up"
Onewheels and EUCs have been around for years and EUCs can go MUCH faster. Up to 40 mph and even higher these days. I'm getting my sea-legs on an EUC currently and don't think I could do an e-scooter, but all the PEVs are so much fun.
You weren’t actually riding it when they spotted you. I wonder whether the outcome would’ve been different if they had. These things will get banned before they’re even made legal.
I doubt it. The whole idea of the hire escooters in some cities is to trial them with a view to possibly giving them an exemption, like ebikes. In any case, those weren't police officers.
@@robertstallard7836 they were just iplod . No sweat
Over 2000km on my m365pro, while they are decent scooters they do have some problems, like the folding mechanism, its very easy to snap a pin that holds the main latch, ive snapped and broke it on mine around 10+ times and its very dodgy when it happens at full speed.
speed hacking works well, your able to set a differnt max speed for each mode, i use 15kph in eco, 25kph in drive and 35kph in sports. the speed flash also makes it able to climb far bigger hills without losing all its speed, an example of this would be a hill near me, could hit it at 25kph and reach the top after dropping down to 10kph, now modded i hit the hill at 25, and reach the top of the hill still above 20kph ;)
Hey Toycat just so you know the scooter does actually have a front brake, it is a KERS brake that basically works as a dynomao to charge the Battery and charge the scooter
This made my day.
In Oxford headington they are rented out and are dotted around the city. Does that mean it is an illegal company that will be opened up for legal action if someone kills someone gets killed.
Stopped me twice on mine, sold it after a few months. Been going round on a 30mph full sus e-bike since, they haven't stopped me on that yet for some strange reason.
I'm so tempted to switch out to an ebike lol
@@AndrewAnd I loved the scooter, when legal I'll have anotherone again. But the bike, I bought a 2010 Kona stab £700, bafang bbshd 1000watt for £600 and 22ah lithium battery £350 which is in a back pack on my back, should get me 40 miles max. because I've back packed the battery, the bike doesn't look like an e-bike till you see the motor under the pedals.
@@AndrewAnd me too. I bought solar p1 e scooter 40mph. I have to send it back because there’s so many police round here in east London and I can’t risk losing it. I’m tempted to buy e bike . I found a great 1 but it’s bit expensive at about £1900.
@@gteaz good job + Nice and stealthy.
The thing is I think they will largely leave ebikes alone and eventually concentrate on the scooters firstly.
otherwise Imagine trying to work out if a bicycle is correctly pedal assist or not or if it's power is within the law. all a bit trickier than picking on an e scooter rider to get off the roads and paths.
Makes no sense does it lmao
27:33 Was gonna suggest that Boosted scooter is available in Wick Boards store in Hackney Wick, as that's where I actually saw one in real life in London. But seems the store is now permanently closed lol.
Nice video, in my community, there is a saying "Puss and Dog don't have the same luck".
as someone who has ridden those slower 19mph top speed scooters with the very slim deck, i would advise against buying one. my first scooter was the Hi Boy Titan Pro and it costs around $1300, has a top speed of 30mph and a range of 40 miles (probably realistically like 25-30 miles).
the scooters with the narrow decks are terrible for comfort and you will end up having like 90% of your weight on your back foot which gets painful very quickly. the hiboy titan pro has a wide and comfortable deck, and it also has the option to run one back motor in economy mode or both motors for the full speed and amazing acceleration.
if you're planning on buying a $500 scooter, you might aswell buy once cry once and buy the more expensive, much more comfortable, much longer range and faster scooters.
the hiboy titan i have is sufficient for any city commuting. the $1700 varla eagle is also an even better option for not much more price.
that being said, im about to drop $4000 on a wolf king GT which goes 62 mph with a 75+ mile range if used in eco mode. that one is truly the buy once cry once model lol... i like fun toys though, and i realize a $4000 toy is not in most peoples budget.
i just feel like any young person with a decent income would regret buying an uncomfortable slow scooter and would eventually end up buying a more expensive one later anyways and have the slow one end up collecting dust in a closet, or be sold for a huge discount
if you've never rode a scooter, obviously rent one or borrow a friends and see if you enjoy them before spending money on one.
That's why there's options, buy what meets your needs, if you're traveling a few miles to a train station, on a train then a few miles to work at the other end, you don't need or want an enormous wolf warrior that can do 50mph for 50 miles, something like an m365 is perfect. If you want to go out exploring the countryside off road climbing dirt tracks on a 30 mile loop, then obviously an m365 is not for you
Love the video. But, a good advice would be not to jump every single red light you come across. Passes the wrong message.
Good point! Not helping to make them acceptable
You make very interesting video's 😎
😃 I like how he continues to ride it after he got that letter, maybe that letter fell into the trashcan
Balls of steel. Enjoy and always Ride safe
@@djdoolittle1315 yes I use to watch that show
Wow, perfect timing indeed. It's reassurring to know that Merseyside police will only take action where there is a blatant misuse of the vehicle and an offence has been committed.
He committed every offence in the book in that video. Missing out red lights riding on pavements,riding close to children and animals, what would it be like if he had a meet up with all his electro head scooter toffs? That park would not be safe for families.
@@raykeogh1972 I Have a scooter myself. I stick to the rules and the police have not bothered me though they've seen me loads of times on it. You could argue 'it's illegal, therefore I'm breaking the rules just by riding it' They're here to stay mate. Get used to it.
@@raykeogh1972 would it "not be safe for families" if he met up in the park with all his cycling mates on bikes instead? Or would that be ok simply because you've grown up with bikes and find them acceptable? Times move on and change isn't inherently dangerous and bad, a bunch of kids racing through a busy park on bicycles could pose just as much risk to young children and pets etc
GOV should WAKE UP to the fact that Private sales of E Scooters have gone through the roof. Last checked Halford's sales up by 400 per cent. Just make it a legal requirement to have at least Third Party #Insurance.
I think most of the issues in the USA come from the rented scooters not from those that are privately owned, which is odd that the UK would go rented over privately owned.
Because they claim that it insures the rider in the case of an accident. When in reality its to line the pockets of who ever made the rules up on escooters
@@MegaNayton It's odd I could understand the insurance thing if all bicycles had to have insurance as well, but they don't.
I could understand it if the govt turned around and said as from a certain date all vehicles that use the road must carry a basic insurance then ok, bicycles get into a lot more accidents than Escooters do, perhaps because there are more of them, but still the point stands, scratched cars, dents, collisions with pedestrians in record numbers at the moment since the big uptake apparently.
But the govt is not saying that, they want the smallest, vehicle to pay insurance when a bike doesn't have to.
Have you seen the bike car, someone took an old car stripped it down and turned it into a bicycle and even that needs no insurance.
czcams.com/video/sjCjbV2EnJ4/video.html
Check it out no insurance, no MOT, no Road tax, no license, and can be used in cycle lanes and paths where it fits obviously.
Perfectly legal on UK roads.
And yet an Escooter which is a fraction of the size of this or even anything bigger, have you seen those multi pedal vehicles that crawl around cities.
Again the same as above.
Can someone explain how these are legal to hire, like here in Liverpool yet illegal to buy and ride? Realise there's meant to be an ID used on the app but I see loads of under 18's on them, not being a kill joy, just asking.
The Government make money from the rental companies. They're still working out how to make money from private owners. Anything that's fun has to be taxed in the UK.
@@rickparkinmoto Don't talk nonsense. The idea of the rental scheme is specifically to trial escooters to see if they can be exempted from road trafic law like ebikes. They were exempted years ago, and there are no requirements for licence, insurance, tax etc. The reason they are using rental ones for the trial is because an escooter is a mechanically propelled vehicle under UK law and therefore needs to be insured.
@@robertstallard7836 Wow - you actually thought my comment was serious! Welcome to the internet!
Hi Andrew. I'm probably just being a bit blond. What Scooter is this?
29:20 the bush is a scooter?!?😄
🤜🏻🤛🏻
The fact that rentals are OK but private ownership is daft!
"Fascism is the merger of state and corporate power" - Benito Mussolini
In my country and state scooters are allowed but only on footpath and some bike lanes in city.
If only rentals were allowed I'd just get stickers for mine and make its look like a rental....
I live in Nottingham and they don’t get me taken off of you they just leave it because we just drive off
It made me nervous when the camera was facing down in the beginning because I was scared you weren’t watching where you were going.
Toycat,you outlaw
in California I'm able to buy an aovopro which essentially the same thing that goes 19 mph (which is plenty fast on the thing) and only cost $200 USD 😊
Impressed with your vid and your honest take on the scooter.... writing this while still watching ... and hoping you will mention something about the suspension, I noticed when you drove over cobbles there was hardly any movement? Is this because of your go pro? Camera?. Do you feel the bumpy ride when going over cobbles and up and down curbs?. Also do you wear a skid lid ( hat) ?
I have the same scooter,it has no suspension but it has pneumatic tires unlike a lot of other e scooters
I have an Emove Cruiser. Rear wheel drive, 60 mile range, 26 mph top speed, dual suspension. I love it!
The emove cruiser is the one I look as the best "non budget" option right now lol
@@AndrewAnd lol yeah. I got it to commute to work l, which is 9 miles each way.
NO e-scooter is legal ANYWHERE the public move-about in the UK, whether that be a park, pavement, or road. You can only use it on private land with the landowner's permission, or I believe, if it's an officially RENTED scooter from some legit company.
A park is private land
@@S.I.A.R908 Private land "with landowner's permission". Good luck finding a park which will give you permission.
@@ltldn I’ve been using it for ab a mth now I’ve seen at least 5 police and they don’t give a shit
@@S.I.A.R908 Land can be private land and still be a public place. This distinction confuses a lot of people. A place is a public place if no measures have been taken to prevent members of the public from entering, to stop being a public place it needs to have fences, walls, locked gates or similar.
Personally, I find the 15.5mph limit fine (on my e-bike); I wouldn't want to go much faster than that...and I think I'd feel even more so on a scooter - which I probably *_will_* get once they're legalized in the UK; they look quite fun. And I see the roads in Liverpool look just as bad as the roads in Ipswich.
The real teller in the letter handed out at the end of the video is the last line: "Merseyside Police will only take action where there is a blatant misuse of these vehicles and traffic offences have been committed".
gay
I’ve hit 45 mph on regular road bike
I’ve hit 45 mph on regular road bike
@@rikilamaru this is my argument about e bikes being restricted to 15.5 mph a Lycra clad guy left me for dead on a proper high end rd bike. He was easily doing 30 as he passed me. Unfortunately I have chronic lung disease so the only bike possible to ride is an e-bike on max assist. 250 w is too low. A 500 or 750 restricted to 15.5 with no shut off, aka just keep the motor constantly assisting would be much better. But the speed restriction is stupid. Even 20mph would be much better
They will be legalised one day, but you won't be able to ride on pavements and you will need to be fully insured.
I wonder what people think when they see a man riding down the street on a scooter talking to himself about how he illegally imported it from Europe
As far as I know they aren’t illegal to buy just illegal to ride in public
You can buy these from halfords so not really illegal, just illegal to use.
You can buy them from Halfords lol
The case of Burns v Currell (1963) has become the standard case to apply when asking whether a vehicle is intended for use on the road. It would appear that the vehicle would have to be used more than once before something such as an off road scramble bike could be considered to be a motor vehicle unless the owner adapted it for on road use for example by the fitting of lights and road tyres. Clearly your bicycle was intended for road use.
That case concerned MOTOR VEHICLES which are a different beast to escooters, which are mechanically propelled vehicles. To use a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road or public place requires insurance unless (like ebikes and mobility scooters) it is exempt.
Riding one anywhere other than on private property (with permission) leaves you liable to a hefty fine and six points.
The hire ones that are being used in the trials in some city centres are insured and also comply with guidelines regarding power, weight, speed etc. I the trial is successful, then escooters complying to speed, weight and power requirements may be exempted as well.
@@robertstallard7836 I used to be an expert witness called in the many Goped cases & have been to court many times. I was at the Saddington case at the High Court in London on behalf of the legal team (twice) & the first electric scooter case in Winchester so trust me The test case for ANY SCOOTER is Burns vs Currell. Only motor vehicles need to have insurance MOT road tax licence etc. look up the verdict & read the whole thing. A scooter is not a motor vehicle as no sane person would say take it as transport to Scotland & back.
@@shakesit I think you will find Winter v DPP (2002) set the precedent on e-scooters being classified as motor vehicles.
@@TheShudder77 I used to sell this type of scooter. It had joke pedals fitted to the front wheels about 1 inch long! The importer was trying to make the scooter into an electric bike but he did not follow the 15mph cut out & pedal switch. I had insurance as most home insurance policies cover you to ride bikes & damage you cause. This case was not represented very well. Read this & pay attention to the last part: www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5b46f2212c94e0775e7f273f
Check out your house insurance as most cover bush bikes. Take a copy with you & show it to plod. Ask plod if you can take your driving test on the scooter? They will say no as it's not a motor vehicle.... aaaaahhhhh Ask if you can take your scooter on the M1 they will say no it's not a motor vehicle.... aaahhhhhh What ever way you look at it an Electric scooter is less of a motor vehicle then a Go Cart & a Go Cart is not a motor vehicle....
Do You Need a Licence For It Or Some Sort Of a Warranty Card As Proof I'm A Bit Confused
Legally you would need tax mot and insurance on it but I don’t think any of that is available so really you should only use them on private land unless you hire one from the main city’s then your covered
At least the Police were kind enough to NoT give you a £300 fine.
My brother had his mi 2 Pro scooter confiscated by the UK police put it on the back off the truck but my brother knows the law and within 5 days he got it back minus the fine he had to pay was about £150 to £180 but got it back he did the police never told him he could get it back and if thease videos I watch I never see the reviewer say this ether on any video or am I missing something
Kugoo M4 Pro Owner, Liked n Subscribed From Glasgow, cheers
I’m saving up for the KAABO WOLF KING GT PRO 60MPH
I can't believe the cops and and pcsos have paper in their car etc to say "oh the government said they are illegal to use them on public places" what a waste of paper and money
Hear me out Andrew, why have a scooter when you Could have a electric bike? like a rad wagon is more powerful and can carry two people with cargo for less than 2k usd? I don't understand the appeal somewhat, but I'm happy to hear out. skill maybe? less needed to use a scooter maybe compared to a bike. QnA Andrew day
Because you can fold and fit scooters into your house easily without much fuss.
I own a S1 Xiaomi {the slightly lighter version} but basically the same in every way. I work as a trade plate vehicle delivery driver I use it all the time to get me from delivery site to either train station bus stop bus station or if close enough to the next collection point. It is for me a very important part of my equipment i carry around. I carry a spare genuine charger in my back pack to top up the charge on the train and when i am delivering the next vehicle i also carry an inverter so i can charge it up on me journey in the car {very useful}. I know they are illegal to use but as he says other than getting to my next job they are great fun and you see things you would never normally see if in a car. It wont be long before they are legal they will have to if you see how many there is being used on cycle paths ect. I always get a smile from everyone i pass and i always say good morning to them. Or perhaps its because im 60 years old riding one of these im not sure all i know is when im on it riding it i feel like 15 years old great fun. :)
If you are an apartment dweller in the city it's much more convenient. I had a Radrunner but I ended up selling it and getting an Emove Cruiser scooter. For one it collapses and weighs about half the weight so going up and down flights of stairs with it is much easier. Much less of a hassle to take on public transport. Don't have to worry about people stealing it because I can put it in my locker at work or bring it into stores with me. It has IPX6 water resistance rating so I'm less worried about water reaching the controller(with the Radrunner it is completely exposed to the elements). Oh and one last thing is that you have a better performance/weight ratio. Since the frame of a scooter weighs less than that of a bike, you actually get better speed and range with identical drive trains.
@@captaincaveman8532 that does make sense. folding bikes aren't cheap either
ive looked into electric bikes and when compared to scooters there is no comparison in capabilities. maybe im looking in the wrong place, but from what ive seen even the most expensive bikes have a 20-30mph top speed and a pretty low range, but yes i realize its a bike with pedals, so even when dead it still can go. that being said, for $1700 you can get a 36mph Varla scooter with a 30 mile or so range, or $3800 for a wolf king GT and literally can go full throttle 62 mph for 55 miles. i looked into electric dirt bikes and they are fairly capable, but their prices are absurd and im not about to spend $12,000 on a KTM Edirt bike, well at least not at the moment lol.
all that being said, i live in a house and storage space isnt an issue.
as others have mentioned, scooters are lightweight, can fold to store in a closet or be transported in a car trunk, they are easier to carry up stairs into an apartment etc.
also nobody talks about weight limits on these scooters so slower speeds for bigger users
LOL watching this while playing elder scrolls online and as this jogger 18:27 runs by a character in game yells "Break a leg and get a move on" It was pretty funny :D
I want one and will have one when it is legally allowed by law to ride them on the road or cycle lanes in the UK....till then I will be patient.
You can’t use a bike lock on it tho right
Some of em come with key
yes I have been riding electric scooters for over 15 years police are ok in my area as long as your driving with due care and attention then it's not a problem but I only stick to the pavement so it's not much of a issue the law does need to change still stuck in the Jurassic period
I actually would like to look into the scooter. Does anyone have a link to where I could see the scooter?
Google exists
@@AJsWorld u know like purchasing the scooter. googling it doesn’t work all the time
@@australium7374 try lads pad,300 quid,20 miles a hour.your welcome.
i personally use the IQ-900 it was around 2600 tl and it goes 30km
I hear what you are saying and I agree 100%. I am getting one however, you have to obey red lights. This is part of the problem why people are against them. Check 23:38. Yes you did go on the pavement, but after going through the red light. Good video and informative though mate 👍
I think these e scooters are great, the government is always going on about reducing the carbon footprint why are they illegal? Why do shops sell these e scooters knowing that people can't use them for transportation as they are road illegal? It's so confusing I was going to purchase one. But people can purchase an E bike.
Scooters are illegal get used to it I got hit by one on the payment get a bicycle more safe
@@christheobald6183 will be legal soon middle of 2022 then you will see them in the thousands
@@christheobald6183 I’ve been hit by bicycles on pavements more times than I can count and it’s all been by 16 year olds riding on one wheel in shopping ereas.the kids think we have vision from behind.
Where I live be you can't go out for 10 mins without getting chased,
I ridden my new scooter twice😱
I can't afford points on my license, especially ones for driving without insurance,
That offence stays on license for 6yrs😰
I don't see the issue, so these are band but old people are allowed to sit on the ride on scooters??
Invalid carriage are allowed
haha, the electric scooter chronicles.
I ride mine on the main streets all the time. Cops don’t gaf about it
I have never been stop by police at all. The police in london just watches as i ride by on speed up a high going less than 8mph but if i do the law is so messed up read it and it doesn't makes sense never
why should i pay tax to use the rd , when your doing it for free , no insurance, so what happens if you hurt someone,
That’s a fair comment,but where do you draw the line with regards insurance,push bikes,ebikes,mobility scooters,maybe public liability insurance for pedestrians,people with pushchairs,etc,etc.
@@meljen8592, if you have home insurance you and the occupants of your home get public liability cover for those activities.
Some cars don’t have road tax applied according to age of vehicle (vintage cars) or they’re cheaper to tax according to their emissions! Perhaps tax should be equated to emission rather than road use?
Hang on they say it’s illegal in public yet not far from where I live they have them where you can hire them and it’s a busy place so how come you can hire one but they are illegal
I wanted to see a video on the m365 eScooter and look who I run into….it’s toycat !!!! 😂
I love escooters but I sold my 40mph beast due to worries of impoundation. Road cycling fills in that speed fix for now. No where near as convenient or portable.
15.5mph is pathetic if you live in the country, my Grandmama could do that on a BMX.
where I live; e scooters, cyclists old people in tanks, they go on the path and road, with no issues with cops or pcsos, and I have never seen any of them hit anyone, I only had one old guy in a tank drive over my foot, it was ok it did not hurt and I can walk he can't.
I use mine anyway if you can ride an E bike that can do 30 mph why can’t you ride a scooter that’s smaller and slower it makes 0 sense I’ve had police try and stop me on mine but I just ride off
lol same so yesterday there was bear police officers so they came to us to tell us that we cant ride it sowe just ran off and rode it somewhere else
I want one. Illegal or not.
I'm worried toycat
I'm lost 🤔 , why is a E scooter illegal over there ? Is it because you need a plate for it .....i thought that they were ok with anything electric from cars to scooters
majority of scooters being sold are rebranded ones from China which are probably costing 200-300 being sold for 700,1000+. What a bump
Wait,you live in liverpool? 😳
Same
We have strange laws. You can rent one and ride it around but it's illegal to ride one you own. Go figure that one out.😂😂
A letter is not the worst you can get. You can get done for no insurance, no road tax, no type approval, no mot, no licence etc etc. 6 points for no insurance on your licence as a starter, even if you don't have a licence yet and a large fine. Also scooters when they are made legal will be regulated to a designated max speed, lights front and back, to a designated power output etc. None of the manufacturers know what the regulations will be so most if not all of the scooters, which have been already bought probably will not comply with the regulations for regulated scooters, when they are made legal.
So I would not buy one yet until the regulated scooters are sold by the manufacturers.
You can buy a new charger cap from Electrazoom