SHOCK: Total War: Pharaoh Getting MASSIVE Free Expansion This Year
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
- Discussing the HUGE map expansion coming to Total War Pharaoh that will include the regions of Greece, Troy, and Mesopotamia as well as the playable factions of Mycenae, Troy, Assyria, and Babylon!
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Releasing a game set in the bronze age without Babylonia and Assyria was such a facepalm moment. It's like making medieval:total war and not including the HRE.
5:44 Can't agree more with this statement, wait and see before we get burned again. The overall message though is one of hope, maybe this time they won't bork it up?
Starfield released without land vehicles. Something that Mass Effect had in 2007. We need to shit on these studios if we want them to stop being lazy. It's as simple as that.
Imagine? The British Isles, France, Spain, and half of Germany. Total War: Medieval 3 for $60!
Then a year later we'll get a "The Future of Medieval 3" video like we got with Three Kingdoms 😂😂😂
@@heavyartillery-qm5hudude don't even get me started on Starfield...no FOV slider, no DLSS support, no mini map, horrendous map, horrendous UI, fundamentally terrible world design (fast travel REQUIRED, unlike other BGS games). I could go on and on about Starfield and what a letdown it was. Let's just say I'm worried for Elder Scrolls 6 when it comes out in 2077.
You nailed it, these studios need to be held accountable by their consumers if no one else.
@@heavyartillery-qm5hu and stop releasing games that feature streamlined mechanics, removing what was fun in the older games, and then having to reinvent the game by introducing these old features again, so you see how total war is stagnating as a series
@@happycompy I would never accept Medieval 3 with such a small map
My man, welcome back, we miss you a lot.
Thank you for the warm welcome Leonardo! It's good to be posting content again and seeing you guys again. Thank you for sticking around!
Great to see you back mate
Thank you, Terminator ❤️. It's great to be back and chatting with everyone again!
6:08 I don't have Pharaoh so no comment but Penthesilea in Troy was an awesome horde faction, genuinely one of my most fun total war campaigns. I think the biggest factor that made it fun was the 5-resource system in Troy which gave you a reason to sack particular settlements to get the resource you needed most.
I never got around to playing Penthesilea but I have heard other people praise it like you just did. I guess I've been sleeping on it.
Became a fan of your content over the last couple months, so great to see you are producing new videos again!
Thank you Helena!
Glad to see you back
Good to be back ❤️
Thank you for saying so 🙏
Welcome back man! Also holy shit they just teased 29 new playable factions coming with this update
Thank you otho! I know, it's awesome! Tomorrow morning I'll be uploading a video on it.
The introduction of the Assyrians and Babylonians will get me playing this game. The sesh will be on
Good to see your are still making content!
Thank you! Is that power armor in your profile pic?
Welcome back! Missed you a lot my friend! 🎉
Thank you for the warm welcome, Medjay! It's good to be back. Good to be excited for Total War again! It's been a while.
Happy to see you back!
Thank you Shogun!!
I'm personally not interested in Pharaoh or anything else going on with modern Total War tbh, but it is nice to see that they are making this big update. As you said, not having the entire bronze age cast in a bronze age game was a crime.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts, Danymok! Appreciate your input as always.
With this in mind, I'll probably pick this up when it goes on sale again.
yyooo welcome back i always loved your channel sm
Thank you so much!!
Ayyye, he's back!
Wow your editing is getting even better now
Thank you!
Bought Pharoah on the summer sale today due to CA's promises. I always wanted a Mesopotamia themed game, glad they're finally expanding it. Greece and Thrace is a great bonus.
Welcome back HC! Been a long time.
Hey Rex! It has. An entire year almost to the day!
My man's back.
we are so back
He's back!!! Probably getting this with the next sale, I'm kind of excited
Me too!
Next next dev blog is about the new cultures and factions ,so i belibe we get 8 new faction 2 per culture
the dev Blog will relase end of may begginig of june so i hope 30 may
i want to see how i can play i want to play as Hektor of troy
I wonder how it will feel if they put in the Mythical characters like Hector and Agamemnon in the game alongside historical figures like Rameses III? Will it be jarring? Either way, I want to play as Hector as well!
@@happycompy yes they make aggamenon and hektor as characters
Is definitely a pleasant surprise, not sure it will manage to get many people back but at least it shows (on paper) that they've learn their lesson on what people want out of historical titles.
Also, good to see you back dude... I had given up, you are the only Total War toober I am sub to these days!
Thanks Zubi! You've been here for years! I take that as a huge compliment that you've stuck around ❤️. Thank you. Have you not been feeling Total War these days?
@@happycompy It has been years? Damn time flies! I still play my campaigns here and there but there isn't much going on with TW and most content out there feels exaggerated and forced. It might sound weird, but your videos are like having a chat with a beer about TW at a bar🍻.
@@ZubiForce Man, I love to hear that. Thanks for sharing, it doesn't sound weird at all in fact you just made my day!
I want Israelites Campaign DLC like Ceasar At Gaul, went you play as Israelites lead by Joshua steamrolling Canaanite factions. In the late game you can pick the king to rule, changing the Republic Jewish States to powerful Jewish Kingdom. Repelling Egyptian and Mesopotamian factions and eventually face the Sea Peoples/Philistines
That's a great idea! Would you prefer a smaller campaign map for that? Or the current campaign map but with a different start date?
thats the only total war game i never played the update gonna make me try it for sure
Looking forward to this.
Glad to see you back making total war content. Like you I am super excited but dammit all to hell if I don't feel like CA are like the knicks game 7.
LMAO I had to look that up to understand the reference. F in the chat for the Knicks.
@@happycompy I had to look up what F in the chat means! I'm old as shit
@@luiscamejo2379the irony of your comment is that me using "F in the chat" dates me as well 😂
I am happy to see TW Pharaoh getting this new big free update instead of ending up like the real Ramesses III. I love the Bronze Age and have loved this game and now it is going to be better than ever.
Same here. I thought for sure they'd abandon it ASAP.
@@happycompy I am hoping this update does well enough to convince CA Sofia and Sega to make more new content both paid and free.
@@ancienthistorygaming same here. What sort of content would you like to see? Personally, I want a population system and a deeper political/family tree system.
@@happycompy those are very good content ideas, I would like to see more playable factions and that can make more replayablity. Also, I think there should be more you can do if you are the Great King of Hatti and Pharaoh of Egypt as well.
"ending up like the real Ramesses III"
What do you mean?
If the next historical title is years away, since the next one is Warhammer 40k and then Star Wars, they better really the full modding tools for Pharaoh so we can hold with those until 2028 for the next official historical. Just heard that Mannorlords sold 2 million copies so far so it is pretty clear that historical fans are mostly ready to jump ship, CA can only hold them until the next historical with the help of moders
More modding tools would be so clutch.
Good to see you back amigo🤝
Thanks LA Ingram! Good to see you still around!
@@happycompy thanks, waiting for some streams, maybe Pharaoh after update?🤔
@@laingram8337 I don't know about streams but definitely more Pharaoh content after the update.
Im looking forward to the expansion.i felt after two playthroughs i wouldnt touch it again but im now very interested.
Same here. I think the expanded map and cultures will add some much-needed dynamism and replayability to the campaign.
Your thumbnail is too good mine's bad lol
You got it right. CA certainly knows how to snatch the L from the jaws of victory. I'm half expecting them to ask for that $20 or whatever back that they refunded us. Anyway, glad to see you back. Hope to see more content from you
Thanks Ron Burgundy! Good to see you still around, too. To your point, I think it's going to be very interesting that Pharaoh will end up a pretty massive $40 game that offers a lot more value than Thrones for $40 and Troy for $50. Again, assuming they don't fuck up the update, it will make Pharaoh one of the best value Total War games in terms of sheer content. Maybe they will ask for that $20 back after all. Rome 2 and Warhammer 1 are both still $60 lmao.
I hope they give a discount to people who already own total war troy because its basically buying a game you already own with a little bit of added stuff
Good news there, the update is completely free and doesn't require Troy.
It was a quadruple punch of
Shadows of change
Pharaoh
Hyenas
All the layoffs
All happening at once, it was a disaster for Sega and CA and GW
Disaster is an apt description for all that, yeah lol.
I was an addict of TW from the very beginning all the way until Rome II, then I've patiently waited until Pharoah came along. Warhammer was a dismay for me (and we got THREE of them before Medieval 3? Or Americas? Or Empire 2? Seriously?!?!?!)
I’ve always wondered if I should pick up Attila, or give the SAGAs a chance. Open to suggestion.
But anyway, Pharoah has been a welcome return after so many...weird...moves, that honestly, I'm enjoying it for what it is and looking forward to an expanded map with more factions.
Attila is really good, but if bad performance and log turn times are a deal breaker for you, then avoid it.
Total War Saga Troy is good, but it's overpriced for what you're getting with just the base game. Mythos is great, but again, it's WAY overpriced ($25 lol).
I refunded Thrones of Britannia. Just too bare bones and felt like a glorified Attila DLC.
Everything you've said I agrew with. And yes, it was always going to get boring if you kept conquering Anatolia and Egypt all the time.
I'm GLAD we're getting this.
But question: What would you say to a mythos mode?
Mythos is a tough one. I loved Mythos for Troy and would definitely welcome it and buy it for Pharaoh if it looked good and was priced reasonably , BUT I want them to focus on the historical content first and foremost. What about you?
@@happycompy Mythos is really the only way for now for game sales to end with a bang. At least we would be getting a semi official age of mythology with the extended map. Any hopes of having it however, will rely on the update this one succeeding first. Make a video debating the pros and cons of Mythos for this game
This might finally get me to pick up the game, props to CA for making it a free expansion
I'm honestly shocked Punggles. I figured they'd give Pharaoh the old yeller treatment for sure, seeing as how much of a flop it was.
@@happycompy I think in a way its still them "cutting their losses" a bit, and just bundling what was likely a bunch of DLC into a free xpac and banking on more people buying the full game than would have bought just DLC. But as someone who never even picked it up its definitely enticing
@@Punggles See the thing is that pre-release they denied that expanding the map was part of their plans, so I really thought that what we got is all we'd get (just like with Troy's map). If they planned this all along, then it was absolutely moronic for them not to tell us, considering that the game's small scope was clearly a major complaint for many players.
Happy Compy is back!
Hey Medjay! Thanks for watching!
@@happycompy saw your video on my feed ;)
The update looks good. I might actually buy it once I see reviews of it
Hope they release another Caananite faction and they actually do a culture to follow because having the choice of siding with Egypt or the Hittite isnt a 3rd culture lol
Wow, you just made me realize that the Canaanites don't have their own cultural tradition. Low key disrespectful to the Canaanites like "nah, you ain't going it your own way, let's be honest here"
total war: pharoah is on sale for $23 bucks on fanatical right now lower than the steam summer sale price.
Look who is not dead. I am not too excited about this new update, it's not gonna magically fix the game in my opinion, but we will have to wait for more details for all the improvements it will offer
Demetrios Poliorketes himself over here! Good to see you!
I'm curious what are the main issues in the game that need fixing in your opinion?
@@happycompy I didn't like Troy's battle system at all (and Pharaoh's is based on that one), also we still aren't getting any ships which is sad and the fact that we also have no cavalry. Sieges also suffer due to the lack of proper siege equipment (though this is a lot more down to the setting of the game)
Damn, will have to buy the game then
I'm sure it'll go on sale again during the summer.
Happycompy in 2024 ?!?!??!?!?!? History chads rise up!
🗿🗿🗿
Are there still no naval battles in Pharaoh despite the *Sea People* being a primary antagonist?
Yep.
Mechanically, artistically, UI, soundtrack and performance wise Pharaoh is the best historical tw. But i couldnt finish a full campaign because of the limited scope of the setting.
Well Thrones of Britannia had more cultures at the start
I genuinely think Pharaoh is underrated as hell because of CA's mishandling of everything. Gameplay is fun, campaign is the best since 3k, resources and trading is better than it's ever been (aside from 3k), the combat is wayy different than Troy if you actually delve into it. Only the light units feel floaty and weightless. The heavy units are clunky and immovable. Medium units are a mix of both. Not only are formations back, you can actually order your units to push or do a fighting retreat. A fighting retreat!!!! Something we wanted for so long and I hope they implement it in future historical TW games. Terrain and weather play a big role. There's so much to like about it, but CA's mismanagement made sure it'll get caught in the crossfire.
It saddens me to see so many people even here in this comment section write it off or bash it without having played it at all. The Suppiluliuma campaign is the closest thing to a WRE/ERE Attila campaign yet. I felt like I was fighting tooth and nail to save my broken empire and keep the world from collapse. Failed multiple campaigns until I finally finished one with Ultimate Victory recently. Most fun I've had in TW since a looooong time. Can't wait for the expanded map, it's everything I wanted from a bronze age TW. The CA Sofia devs are open and transparent, often engaging with people in the official discord. And they're the ones who did the last few patches and DLCs for Rome II, finalising its comeback. So I trust them fully to turn the ship around if CA allow them to.
Happy to see you back dude, I hope to see more vids soon :P
Thanks for sharing and for the warm welcome! CA Sophia have yet to put out something that's truly bad. Their work on Rome 2 was so much better than the work the main studio was doing before. They're the ones who really fixed the game (though it still has some major AI issues). Troy launched on Epic, was a Saga, was overpriced and had an identity crisis, Mythos was good and fixed the identity crisis, but it was way overpriced and came too late. Pharaoh was overpriced and once again had an identity crisis which they are now fixing. Two games in a row that were set up to fail right out of the gate.
I hope the update is good enough that we all end up wondering what could have been had it launched like that. Sadly, even if it's amazing, I doubt Pharaoh will ever reach healthy concurrent players long term. Too much working against it from the mishandled launch. It's insane to me how terrible CA's decision making has been. It's like they're actively trying to go out of business.
I hope I'm wrong of course, but unlike Rome 2's comeback, Pharaoh doesn't have a super popular setting that people are craving to bring people back. I think it's DOA which is why I'm so shocked it's even getting this big update (3K was killed for far less than Pharaoh's failures).
That said, I agree 100% with you that Pharaoh has Attila vibes and I really love the "end of the world" setting that the Bronze Age Collapse has!
@@happycompy Yeah, I don't think Pharaoh will ever get a player count like the popular historical TW games, but I think CA Sofia can make it into a complete game and breathe some more life into it.
i still havent bought this game because id rather wait for the modders working on bronze age total war for rome II to put out those updates than buy the half game that this turned out to be.... with this news maybe ill buy it when they have a sale now. i really have been disappointed with CA for a while and i used to play shogun when i was a kid i have seen all the good things CA can do but lately its just been uninspiring followed mostly by more uninspiring games. as for why Rome II and Med II total war still have big player counts the answer is modders. the modding community can keep any half-decent game alive for decades. Med II still has the best LOTR mods because it was easy to manipulate the maps and code to recreate other legendarium's and its why people still play it
I share your disillusionment with CA. It's not even like this is the first time they've fallen off and dropped the ball hard. They did the same thing in 2009 with Empire's buggy release that they never fully fixed before moving on to Napoleon. Then they did it again 2013 with Rome 2's mishandled mess of a launch, and then they had to do a year-long apology tour to make that game semi-acceptable before they abandoned it for Attila (which they then also abandoned after a year lmao).
Rome 2 was considered trash for so long. They put in the work to make it really good, like they are with pharaoh. While Rome 2 mods are great, the limit with the maps kills its ability to ever truly recreate this setting like a unique game can. Also...I mean why not support people getting paid to do it, instead of the default being people doing it as labor of love for tips + kudos.
@@mellamanborrego8299 i liked rome II it was buggy but i always had fun but there just feels like somethings still missing from the new gen of TW that i cant quite put into words. but things like how the battlefield was represented by where your armies we're on the campaign map so you never wanted to attack an army on a hill or against a mountain little things like that are part of whats missing
HEEEEEEEEY my favorite Total War youtuber is back, and talking about my favorite TW game (I am an egyptologist don't jugde me) AMAZING
Wow, thank you for the compliment! You're a real Egyptologist? That's freaking awesome.
@@happycompy Yep, in fact I visit the tomb of some of the character of this game (Ramesses, Tawseret, and Si-Ptah) and I am writting a book about the egyptian civil war after the death of Merenptah.
@@ivanlarav That's so cool. How historically accurate is the game in your opinion?
@@happycompy
It depends on your definition of 'historically correct.' There are some details that are historically absurd, but I understand because it's a video game. For example, the Egyptian units wear too much armor (armor was extremely rare in Egyptian armies due to its cost and the heat of the deserts), and the size of the walls is exaggerated.
There are also some details that bother me a little. The absence of Sethnakht as a playable character is the biggest issue for me (he was the one who won the war). I also find it strange that Seti doesn't start the game with a significant advantage in legitimacy. If Merenptah dies without a civil war, he should automatically be named Pharaoh. Oh, and while it's cool to try to resurrect the cult of Akhenaten, that should come with a significant penalty to diplomacy, because other Egyptian nobles wouldn't be happy with someone destroying temples in the name of a forbidden cult.
But overall, I find that TWP is one of the best representations of Egyptian civilization in video games. CA Sophia had already impressed me with their attention to detail in TW Troy, and Pharaoh is no different. It breaks my heart that Troy and Pharaoh were financial failures, because for me, they are the greatest works of passion we've seen in the franchise since Shogun 2.
But my judgment is not impartial. I've been dreaming of a Total War game about the Trojan War and Egyptian civilization since I first played Rome TW on the computer in my high school library.
thank you for your professional insight. It's infectious and inspiring to talk to someone so knowledgeable and passionate about this game's setting. When you say Sethnakht "won the war," are you referring to the Egyptian civil war that the game depicts? Most of my knowledge about the era revolves around the drama of the collapse and its potential causes. I'm unfamiliar with most of the internal political struggles of the civilizations themselves.
Modders can make Pharaoh enjoyable. Although the audience is just too small im afraid, which stops modders. I love the setting, lets see if someone can improve the game even more.
Imperator Rome had an even smaller audience part times but still an amazing modding community that kept the game alive after paradox abandoned it. And now this game has it's own renaissance and got it's first official update since the Marius update
@Garindo I saw this yesterday! That was amazing work by the modding community. I can't believe PDX actually patched the game because of modders keeping it alive.
I thought the idea of a Bronze Age total war was cool. But the game had important regions that were missing, such as Minoan Greece. It just felt like another rushed project to milk more money.
Well said.
Yep they can make it more with contend if they like it…..if somehow merged troy and pharaoh, but i know troy is more specific in the greek area of war. The pharao is general in bronze age area of east mediteranean area….but they can imrpove it more and add more things and abilities and strategies.
Respect to CA on this one. Way to just swallow the L and try making this game actually good.
Agreed. I would have bet money that CA would abandon it and move on immediately. This announcement was a big surprise.
CA ALMOST ruined self with Pharaoh! See a realize that, they are doing something about it! Good for CA.
Mesopotamia revived you lol
You're not kidding, it literally revived my desire to post content 😂
I could not care less about Pharaoh, but is nice to see you back.
Thank you ❤️. It's good to see you again, too.
Pharaoh factions is awfully small
get rid of heros in historic
You mean the immortal leaders?
@@happycompy
The character driven faction thing.
We should have Egypt, Babylon, Assyria ect.
Not Kurunta, Rameses, Setti... as playable factions imo
@@georgimihalkov9678 Agreed!
You just gotta be smarter everyone. Listen, I've been playing TW since my 2D samurai were hacking each other into hundreds of pixelated corpses. I bought Rome 2 while deployed to Iraq in 2004 and played it on my little laptop whenever I could and LOVED it. I purchased and enjoyed every TW game ... up to Troy ... because you could totally tell CA were losing their touch. I mean come on, super hero Greeks in some kind of weird historical/Warhammer fusion? Please. Then they market us Pharaoh as a super expensive bronze age historical with just THREE factions from that time, again with super hero immortal leaders, AND want $60? NOPE! Aahhhh but then someone over at CA has finally woken up and now they're POTENTIALLY releasing an epic bronze age historical historical? Maybe. AND they just offered the game on discount for like $29? So I bought it of course. Never played Troy. Never played Pharaoh. Won't play Pharaoh until released WITH update and patched AT LEAST once. So then. my simple friends, for $25 I'll POTENTIALLY enjoy a proper CA Bronze Age Historical Masterpiece and hope that CA continues to slowly pull their head out of their asses. You just gotta be smarter folks ... :)
Good video btw my man.
@@Excalibur698 Thank you! I'm the same way, I almost never pay full price for a game (except for Starfield...RIP). This strategy actually backfired on me with Pharaoh though, because when they dropped the price to $40 and issued refunds, I was ineligible because I bought it from a third party 😂.
@@happycompy @happycompy Ah, you win some you lose some. You do reviews so you get the good with the bad. I'm just every company's most hated consumer. Another example, a few days ago I tried Cyberpunk for the FIRST time and it is freaking AWESOME!!!! I don't know what all the negative fuss was about!! Haaa!!!
@@happycompy I really can't wait to try Manorlords sometime in the last half of 2025! It's gonna be sweet!
@@Excalibur698 Cyberpunk is one of my favorite games of all time! Like you, I played it long after launch and got it on sale. The TV show "Cyberpunk Edgerunners" is so good too. One of my favorites.
My major issue with Troy and Pharaoh are the awful battles. They're just such a major downgrade from Rome 2 and Attila in almost every way (except for the beautiful map-design). The Paradox-games have surpassed the strategic depth of the TW-campaigns a long time ago, so imo the outstanding feature of TW-games are their real time battles. As long as they become worse with every release or at least don't increase the quality of the Troy-battles, I won't pay for a new TW-game.
Another pain are the comic-esque graphics: they just don't really fit a historical title - but that's admittedly a bit nitpicky.
I'm still curious, what this DLC will bring to the table and hope to be pleasantly surprised.
I get where you're coming from. I do think that Pharaoh's battles are much better than Troy's, especially with regards to combat animations, unit collision and the reintroduction of formations. That said, I think that the implementation of said formations is worse than what we had in Rome 2. I hate that we can't issue attack or movement commands while units are in shield wall without it breaking the formation, for example. It feels awkward and clunky to use. Attila and 3K have this issue too.