This $250 Ryzen Pre-Built is a BEAST Home Server!
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Timestamps:
00:00 The intro
00:47 Brilliant.org
01:45 The CPU
04:19 What's the catch?
05:12 The pre-built
07:00 Power consumption
09:59 Replacing the PSU
12:38 Replacing the motherboard
13:29 Performance
15:22 Final words - Věda a technologie
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Correction: The Ryzen 3600 die shot at 3:30 has the "IO" and "CCX" labels swapped (thanks @Weyzar !)
ASPM Tuning Script: gist.github.com/baybal/b499fc5811a7073df0c03ab8da4be904
Needs to be changed according to your PCIe devices before running!
Use this command to see what devices support ASPM: sudo lspci -vv | awk '/ASPM/{print $0}' RS= | grep --color -P '(^[a-z0-9:.]+|ASPM )'
When you've started sponsored block I thought you gonna tell us about your addiction))). Maybe it was the tone, or the music, or something else, but It was unexpected)) No offense please, I really like what you do.
Awesome, I love the fact that you can focus on getting the most out of your money, and not blasting a hole in the wallet.
yea! mee too - it made me thinking I should reuse an old haswell pc I have laying around - maybe it will use a bit more in idle than my current ASROCK j3455 , but it will cost me nothing, so...
Have you guys really seen his video? He's buying part after part with almost no (power) improvement. Nice for testing and making a YT video, but how well is that as an investment?
Almost as though 'testing and making a YT video' is the whole point 😉
@@Mr.TonTop Exactly why I subscribed :D
@@marcinneuman8283but probably has more juice :)
Benchmarks I'd like to see for this system, and the others as well are;
1. ZFS resilvering. (use some standardized drive size and layout like 3-wide z1 of some cheap 4tb drives or whatever you can get your hand on.)
2. Your typical DB & FS benchmarks, Seq. I/O, Rand. I/O and such.
3. In general also displaying the benchmarks of all previous builds alongside the current results with perf/W and perf/$
I just love your budget friendly videos and the amount of effort you put in those, that's really inspiring me to try to this as well at home.
I love your channel. It got me hyped enough to fix my data chaos and now I'm almost done with my take on a NAS build based on the N5105 motherboard.
I'll definitely stay tuned for that N100 video as this could be the perfect board for my off-site backup in a different city.
Keep it up!
same, are you using picopsu or you found the power supply?
@@namesurname4666 I used the 850W instead because it was available at a discount on Amazon the time I looked for parts. Its Efficiency is most likely worse but nothing too crazy. Whenever there is a better PSU for my system with less wattage I'll swap it and use the 850W on my modified PS4 Pro.
I'm also debating whether to build my first nas around N100. Seeing dirt cheap deals on embedded motherboards.
Great video, always looking forward to seeing these when they come out.
Thank you for your clarity on your videos, greetings from Switzerland 😉
Fantastic Video as always.
For your Question. A geat benchmark for a home server is fileflows.
It transcodes videos in the "Archive" using so called flows. The best part is that it is super easy to switch between software and hardware transcode. and in contrast to tdarr and similar projects priorizes quality over speed.
In My experience a transcode to HEVC on GPU is a great test of the overall CPU power.
I cannot like this video enough, I feel like I learned so much!
The laptop charger as PSU is nuts!!
Thx for your informative breakdown! I'm currently waiting for my Asrock N100M for my first ever NAS so I'm looking forward to your video with the ITX version.
Interesting to watch!
Thanks!
I dont have server at house yet, but I'm heading this way. I find your work of building energy efficient way very inspiring. Thanks! 🙂
Something to note about those FSP (Fortron) blocks.
They can do a lot.
If such a unit as your is still in good condition, it operates well when loaded at 80% or more. How long will it keep working under heavy load is questionable, since these are old blocks, but from what I have seen, these are very stable, relatively realiable units, with protections and stuff.
Anyone interested, look at how many stickers they have next to the main one. The more the better. I have yet to see one with an 80+ rating.
I really enjoy videos like this, thanks! I recently found your channel and used what I learned to retool my Minecraft server and brought it from 20 watts down to 10 watts while players are logged in and playing! That might be a cool video for you to tackle since it is a light duty 24/7 use case and oddly just wants tons of RAM and a *fast* single core to keep the game loop running at 20 ticks per second. I picked Intel G3258 since they are so cheap and can easily overclock to 4.0GHz. I just bought two off eBay for $9 each and got it up to 4.0GHz stable and it barely touched my idle power draw!!!
Actually impressive
Thanks Wolfgang, I rarely miss your videos, always super interesting. Especially like the homeserver stuff.
This rig looks like a great deal, however involves a lot of tinkering. What do you make of the recent-ish (or older even) mini-pcs like Optiplex and the like ?
No tinkering required - the pre-built can be used as is. All the tinkering that I did was optional :)
I got myself a minisforum UM790Pro mini pc as my home server solution. it idles at 8-9 watts and is extremely powerful and super silent at the same time...
in general the lenovo tiny pcs aren't that great for anything storage related since they only have 1 sata and 1 nvme I believe.
otherwise cheap but they're also kind of noisy sometimes.
the last few videos have been wornderful, thank you for the amazing content. Looking forward to N305 motherboards!
Didn't expect less than 20W for that build, great! Waiting for the new video about the n100
That was a very interesting video. Great to see video with energy efficiency in focus. Looking forward to see yuour next video on this topic.
Good video. Good information. Thanks
Hi Wolfgang, love your channel man. Keep the good shit coming!
Vídeo incrível com muitos esclarecimentos sobre todos os aspectos envolvidos. Muito obrigado
I like your low power builds. It insipred me to build a homserver out of a Asrock Desk Mini x300. I did 3D print a modified housing (printables x300 case) in order to add the thick 5TB 2.5" HDD. I do not need more disk space. I picked a Ryzen 5600G and switched the power supply to a GaN 65W usb c one. So the board gets 20V (instead of 19) through usb c power delivery. Pretty cool!
I actually did not measure the power consumtion yet. But I will do a research about your mentioned power top tricks. I remember the power draw to fairly under 15W but don't remember if the drives were connected. Once I found time to measure the power consumtion, I can let you know.
The N100 build will be alse pretty decent and might be way under 10W with 2 HDD drives.
How are you powering a PC with USB-C?
Nice! I'm actually running Asrock Desk Mini x300 + 5600G + 1TB SSD and I'm getting as low as 8w on the default PSU, although it was a stock Debian with nothing running and nothing was connected to it, except LAN cable.
@@darekmistrz4364 This is quiet easy. Check out "USB Power Delivery". Basicly the protocol supports different Voltages like 5V, 9V, 12V, 15 and 20V. The laptops and barebone pc's often demand about 19V, altough some might desire 12V.
The IC (integrated circuit) on those boards do support a larger input voltage range. Let's say 16 - 24V. They will regulate the voltage to their needs afterwards. So if you feed the Asrock X300 with 20V instead of 19V, there is absolutely no Problem.
The charger needs to support power delivery. If I remember correctly, the charger try all different voltages until the client (the Asrock X300) is satisfied. Or the client directly tells the charger what voltage it wants.
So I only had to buy a USB C to 5.5mm cable from china.
He explains electronics very well and it might help you understand USB Power Delivery
czcams.com/video/OwAZqJ4wpJg/video.html
@@ivansorokin2199Ah dude, so now I must measure my system today. I will post it here.
Power it via USB-C ? did you just mod/buy a cable from usb to 5.5mm barrow jack?
Отличное видео! Отдельное спасибо за субтитры)
Тоже присматриваюсь к amd из за поддержки ecc памяти и его работы на большинстве десктопных плат. Думал вам про них написать, а тут ваше видео вышло)
Вообще еще интересны процессоры PRO 5650G (в два раза больше кэш, архитектура cezanne) или варианты 4c\8t, некоторые из них реально купить oem (80-100$)
Thx for sharing
i was in the process of building a similar system but due to space limitation, i bought a terramaster. it idles at 15watts compared to my previous NAS which was 22-25watts. of course i now have NAS rated drives and i run UnRaid instead of TrueNAS. i do have the HDD spin down after not being used after a hour. i have two m.2 2tb’s for my caching. i think at the end, it’s roughly the same as my watts increase a bit more while using the HDD. but i’m happy that i’m getting twice the TB space in a smaller form factor.
terramaster is a great choice if you don't need more than 2 (or 4 for bigger model) spinning drives - combined with 2x nvme it's perfect for my needs. I'm just waiting for them to switch to N100 - it will be a sweet spot with speed/power consumption. Did you get Fx-423 or Fx-223?
Bro I have that same motherboard in my PC. It makes up more than a third of the price of your prebuilt, so that was a really solid deal!
Thanks for the information. Just for data on what #'s I pay attention to (other than the super-important power/cost you cover well here).... I typically copy thousands of pictures between drives and over the network with my home server. I also dump compressed drive images to it for critical devices on my network. Also, since Apple has changed their image format.... the home server tends to end up getting tasked with converting those in huge batches to JPG. (I tend to use thin clients and laptops, so transcoding and backup tends to get done on the home server--even though the laptops would be faster... I just kickoff a script and the laptop leaves with me or gets shutdown while the server chugs away for sometimes hours) So, USB throughput for external/cold backups, network throughput for large files (10-50gb) and small files (hundreds of K to MB), and local throughput for hot/onine backups. I run plex too.... but even ancient HW does well for HD streams these days.
Thanks Wolfgang for the tip! I bought a 4650g pro used on eBay and replaced my 2700 on my b450 board. I'm using unraid but cannot get under 30W with all disks and SSDs spun down. It is a lot less than the 2700 used. However it seems unraid does not support the higher C-states :(
Again thanks for the tip and best wishes from the Niederrhein:)
Brilliant video!
My truenas build is based on 4650g pro and asrock b550, it really works like charm with ecc memories.
Amazing video!
Would love a video on must-haves/must-knows for home assistant
Good vid. Where do i find instructions on how to install the AMD P-State EPP drivers for Linux 6.3 as i want to improve efficiency on my Proxmox 8 server? You also mentioned enabling aspm for all pcie devices- i already have aspm enabled in bios, do i need to do additional configs in the Linux system?
Great video, well researched power consumption which is never done on a home server build to be honest.
I’d love to see what power draw and usability on something like using it for frigate on home assistant, with and without a Coral.
I didn't know I needed it. Now I need it xD
My current NAS (running of a striped Dell Optilex 9020) consumes 70W (70 fuck*ng watts, around 150€/year) even with a platinium grade PSU...
Nice video. It would be nice if you leave description info about what you mentioned in video - like link to lost of CPU with support ECC memory and what M.2-SATA controller do you use
Hey Wolfgang, please do a homeserver build in one of the Asrock Deskmini/Deskmeet boxes, or even Jupiter. Intel or AMD doesn't matter, Deskmini comes with 2 Sata ports + power, and no PCIE slot, so only the M.2s. Deskmeet is a fully fledged itx system, with case and PSU, PCIE slot and loads of connectivity. I'm seriously considering either for a small NAS build or even a home server, and since they're popular - especially the Deskmini, plenty of 3D printed case mods exist to improve cooling and adding expansions.
Thanks again for investigating Ryzen for low power home server build, keep on going with low power/efficiency builds! Homeservers in EU are kinda redundant if it costs more to run the thing in electricity only per year, compared to equivalent cloud services, power efficiency is key.
Impressive video. Do you have any intentions to create a budget machine tailored for TensorFlow JS training and inference? I'm referring to a system with a sensible power consumption, without breaking a bank, and incorporating clever strategies for acquiring the necessary components - essentially, your typical approach.
For less powerful system I would suggest looking for i3 6th gen office email machine. These machines are being dumped because they do not support win 11, so you can have one for as low as 30 EUR. I use one as router/nvr/homeassitant server it is now at ~80 CPU load avg (6th gen has AI acceleration too which is eating around 60 proc.) but all of that draws only 35 W, so I am pretty happy.
Nice machine, I'm thinking about building a Ryzen APU powered server since I got a brand new Asrock A520M-ITX board cheap (~50eur) a few months ago (still haven't used it) :D
Hey! I am doing sth similar! I am running a 2200g in my proxmox server. ~25 w tdp, cooled via a passive cpu cooler and a gpu which i passthrough to a lxc container for my jellyfin server! ❤
Thank you for your videos. Recently I bought an HP Prodesk 600 G4 with i3 8100 CPU. With powertop --autotune and other steps (~HDD spin down), the idle consumption is 8-9W !! This computer has a 180W platinum power supply. And it costs about 120-140 EUR on the used market (8-16GB RAM, 250GB SSD). Also it has a huge disadvantage: only one 3.5" drive bay. But it's enough for me.
can you tell me if the PSU fan is loud ? does it turn off when idle ?
I discovered exactly the same low idle wattage with both of the 8 core Ryzen APU's - 4750G Pro and 5700G - both draw 7-8 watts at idle on an Aorus B550 ITX motherboard. The 5700X idles at 30 watts, the 5950X at 40 watts - all on same B550 motherboard. As you pointed out only the Pro models alllow allow ECC memory. Gruess aus Florida!
My website hosting server uses just 6.5W in idle. It's a used HP office PC with an i5 9500 and 8GB RAM (original PSU has platinum efficiency). Got it around 2 years ago for £150.
That‘s impressive! How many watts is your PSU rated for?
@@xavifernandez1542
PSU is 180W. To get all specs just search for
HP ProDesk 400 G6 Small Form Factor Business.
@@xavifernandez1542my Lenovo m920x with an i7 9th Gen 2 SATA SSDs and 2 nvme SSDs is drawing about 10w idle on proxmox running more than 10 containers. Comes with the stock 135w Power brick.
Awesome little box! Definitely recommend this tiny 1L PCs
I converted my previous desktop sporting a 5900x to my new virtualisation host. I run it at the 65w eco mode. It's pretty awesome considering my previous virtualisation host was running on an intel Nuc.
Have you checked if eco mode even does anything for idle power consumption? i've heard its mostly a no from pretty much everywhere i look
@@Nonstopie yes I've checked and it's ever so slightly lower, but it's virtually the same. But it's pretty low anyway. If very low idling power draw is what you're after, you might want to check out those mini PCs that are all the rage now. They're pretty cool as long as you don't need lots of IO or full size PCI-e slots.
@@roccociccone597 Yeah i was just wondering because i did a similiar thing where i moved my 3700x from my desktop to my server. My idle was somewhere in the 35-40watt range without spinning drives and 1 nvme. I havent really bothered changing around any bios settings yet though.
@@roccociccone597 Did you have to disable C-States? My 5900x will randomly hang when not doing anything, after disabling c-states it works and same goes for Eco-Mode. CPU is not stable when using Eco-mode. It's only stable after I set the proper PPT, TDC, and EDC after testing what gets me the highest frequency.
@@Nonstopie Eco and stock have the same idle power consumption, my CPU is always consuming 47-50W and if you have c-states enabled it can go down to 35W but it's not stable at all with c-states enabled. AMD dropped the ball with not figuring out c-states for Zen 3.
I wish topton would've made their NAS board with a Ryzen chip that can handle virtualization (more cores)
That would be the best of the best.
i like all the tweaks being done to lower that power consumption.
Running a server with ryzen 3600, 2x16gb 2600mhz, 1 nvme, 2 sata ssd, 2 HDD and a 1080ti. When the HDD are spin down, the consumption to wall is 52w. I leave a windows VM with passthrough for the 1080ti because I think this consume less power than leaving it off. Could switching the 3600 for the 4650g reduce the idle consumption? Also could you explain more about the amd P-state EPP for a proxmox server? Thanks for your great videos
Did something similar to this very recently, but with a $50 mobo+cpu (some intel celeron) combo instead and just shucked it into an old rig's existing case+psu. Got it down to 22w~ idle with 3 3.5in HDDs, 1 2.5in HDD, 1 SSD, and 1 old fan consuming 3-5w on its own. It's nowhere near as powerful as this Ryzen though but gets everything I need it to do done.
Which Board and cpu you are using?
@@8bit239 Hello, the exact board is called "ASRock J3455-ITX Motherboard" ; it comes with the integrated Intel® Quad-Core J3455 processor. The weirdest part with this setup was the fact it needed laptop memory to function, thankfully I had a lot of dead laptops around to borrow memory from.
i bought a second hand terra nuc
i never heared of the brand but, I am happy with mine
Thanks for video. Would have liked to see you add whatever the best bang for buck video card is for transcoding and compare power usage and transcode FPS with that.
An Intel Arc card is on the way 😉
That's nice to see, but I was wondering, do you have video on the smart plugs and setup you use for them? I was looking into it but I couldn't get a good video on them from EU users.
This system is probably twice as fast as mine, but I'm still really happy with my PC with i7-6700 that I bought (used) for 100€ which still works flawlessly😅
Is that N100 video you was working on coming any time soon? I am really interested in that platform.
Great video as always, спасибо!
Is there any tutorial on what exactly to tweak in Ubuntu to achieve as-little-power-draw-from-the-wall-as-possible?
My J5004 system draws ~27w from the wall without any software tweaks and I know it should be better.
(btw was also surprised that rgb keyboard is easily +5w from the wall - makes sense, but still surprising)
90% of this is "powertop --auto-tune"
This is an interesting take on low idle power server + best bang for buck. I've considered Ryzen APU server, but like you said the worse hw transcode might be dealbreaking. Though I've seen Chinese videotubers getting respectable fps using AMD APU, but fps is not the only concern for transcoding, quality is important too. Under your inspiration of Chinese laptop CPU, I've picked up QTJ2 mutant and some part off local Facebook for only C$180 (around 100 EUR). I'm satisfied with it, as it delivers good performance + hw transcoding and idle quite low at 18W in a normal configuration (9.9W with everything unplugged). I'm also using it with my RTX 2070 pulled from my dormant PC in another province and setup a temporary gaming PC for really good budget. Btw did you get more than C7+ state with your mutant? if my CPU goes above C7, whole system crash so I disabled C8/C10. I'm excited for you to review the potential of N100 home server, I'll see if my parents/Chinese friends can bring that board from Taobao.
Yeah, the APUs are not great for transcoding, but it's a question of how much of them you do. Also, you can chuck in a small dGPU in there for transcoding.
I forgot how it was done exactly, but you can set it up so it runs completely of the APU except for transcoding. Has a little lag when starting a transcode, but keeps the dGPU fully off between transcodes, so it had something like 0,2 watts idle draw or something like that.
I needed an ultra cheap psu, to use not in a computer. And this pos was perfect, but I fount it for 8Euros shipped :D Thank you
This was such a good video :)
I think you may be interested in 12VO PSUs to get even better idle efficiency. When they become more common...
I used i7-9700 for my home server and with 2 sdd, 2 hdds and LSI Megaraid ir rarely goes over 50-60W for the whole system while serving invidious, nextcloud and a lot more. If I went all ssd, with no hardware RAID controller I could probably save another 30W.
I kept looking for a newer Dual CPU Xeon system as I have 2 older servers that for some reason don't have native PCI-E slots in them sadly. But the more I did the numbers, the less it made sense to keep using these when even a consumer board with a Ryzen CPU would beat them out handily doing A.I. stuff with the M40 GPU cards.
The only real plus is that the cases can take these cards and keep them cool, but I still would have to limit myself on the amount of GPU's I could fit inside. So something like a Mining Rig / Case would work better.
But as I keep doing the math? It just makes sense to purchase new hardware as its just so many leaps and bounds ahead of the older stuff of even a few years ago.
And right now seems to be the best time to get into AM-5 as what it can do per clock cycle and with the amount of cores it has is staggering.
Even the AM-4 systems still pack a pretty good punch.
The Only reason why I would stick with an older platform is that that DDR-3 Memory kits are so cheap, getting 1TB of RAM is even affordable.
I guess the next hot ticket would be to get a Old DDR-3 ECC memory moudles with some kind of riser and use that as a massive scratch drive using it as iSCSI / NAS array for video scrubbing. But its only me, so no need for something like that.
Great Video btw!
Great video as always, can you tell me what terminal font you are using, I really like it.
never mind I found a video on the channel dedicated to this font
I'm waiting for N100 based NAS test. I'm also curious how behave N300 and N305, but sadly motherboards with these specific chips are not available yet.
Dunno why you almost find nothing about N100 systems either. The all-in-one boards are available und the price is mighty fine in my opinion. I got me an Asrock N100M uATX for my server as it is a board which supports 32 GiB RAM. It is running multiple docker containers (pi-hole among other things), a webserver with nextcloud, as well as a samba and a maria instance... It breaks no sweat... My very old i7 36xx was much less responsive than this N100 CPU. But, you should just add an active fan onto the cooler as this thing can go up to 80-90°C when under full boost. With an average 60mm fan, you will get around 40°C idle and maybe up to 60°C load.
A nice case to combine it with, is the Chieftech IX-06B and its special PSU (you need to buy both, a regular PSU won't fit). This is a bench upload from me, geekbench -> v6/cpu/1573133
I am actually pretty pleased with it.
love the low power stuff. using an old i5-6500 with ASRock H110M-ITX MB draws 30 watt idle. for nas and plex, you inspire me to try to get somthing better/ more powerful and stil low watt. wondering what i should replace it with :)
I just wish there were affordable platforms with ECC support and a good number of PCIe lanes newer than X79, but oh well, looks like good old IvyBridge-E will have to keep on trucking for the foreseeable future. At least I did get the idle power draw down to 60-ish watts, which is, uh, not great but not terrible either I guess 😅
CZcams needs a turbo like button just for you and your videos, handsome
You can put 2.5" SSDs in something like ICY DOCK ToughArmor 8x 2.5" in single 5.25" bay, it's not cheap but works and looks great.
I'm dying from laughter because of all those funny scenes included :D
All best from Poland! Watching videos one by one! :D
Please do a good tutorial on good OS to use and setup for home servers. How can we add SSD for cache if required in future. Will be very helpful
This is great but can you also do this for incredibly power efficient (preferably Linux) laptops?
Atm the 5650g pro goes for 150eur. Also a nice option/upgrade
Dont forget pro cpus support ecc formally (most mb vendors advertise this) which makes them good for nas as well!
In the past i did encounter issues with iommu (breaking as a whole) when updating to a non native bios to support new ryzen generation
Can we have more info on the software to use?
a while a go i saw a kit with ram mainboard and cpu for 300€ would you recommend buying this? it includes a asus B550M-A, 16gb, 3200mhz ddr4. Ryzen 7 5700G (8x 3,8GHz) along with an boxed amd cooler. ive been thinking a while about it now but im unsure if it sucks back a huge amount of power as im currently running 2 raspberry pis 1 laptop 24/7 and my pc along with it which is pretty expensive already and it would remove both my laptop and one of the pis
Try icydock adapters which turn your cd drive bays into hdd bays
Nice vid :)
What i would love to see, if possible of cause, is some kind of burnin/stress test, to see how well or bad the system components perform. For most homeserver owners, myself included, our worst nightmare is a fire hazzard due to say using the wrong brick power supply, gfx card whatever.
Anyways keep up the good work, love you're vids
what do you think about making the server psu even more efficient by using a USB PD GaN charger with a pico psu and a "USB Type-C to DC 5.5 Adapter Cable PD Charging Cord 19V", been thinking about doing this for a long time and GaN is more efficient that the traditional power supply technologies we used.
I would be super interested to know how you got your power consumption in graphana ! Great video as always.
Home assistant + Prometheus
My budget home server is a laptop that can barely hold itself together because half the screws fell out.
Can you recommend a specific Molex to SATA adapter?
Is it a camera or a microphone on the boom arm in the background?
If you had to pick something brand new, that is actually available what would you choose, for low consumption, without being poor?
Plex 4k playback, NAS, and other various stuff.
Currently rocking a 5820k with a Quadro P2000, MSI X99-A SLI PLUS, 16gb ram and it consumes around 60-65w.
For a budget around 500 euro.
Does the main board and bios support pci bifurcation 4x/4x/4x/4x.? Searching for something to put a 4xm2 pcie card.
My passive server runs on athlon pro 300ge. I'll try to check its power usage on the next dusting. I don't have an issue with transcoding as the only tv I have is 720p.
My home server costed 65 euro's totally. 49 euro's for the system with 4 GB RAM and a 250 GB harddrive and 8 GB extra RAM for 26 euro's. Excluding monitor and keyboard. It's a HP / Compaq 8100 Elite SFF with a Intel i5 650 proc. It has no fans and is totally silent.
Is it worthwhile using an AM4 X370m motherboard as a cheap server - or sis it better to upgrade? Currently has a R5 2400G on it...
Don't forget that wasting less power also means a cooler room in the summer, so lower AC bills, that might help pay off earlier.
Damn! This video missed me by 2 weeks. Was able to find that asrock A520m itx + ryzen 5 pro 4650G for the same price I paid for the topton N5105 😅
Approx at the end, it was mentioned a new video with the asrock N100 motherboard. Has been published such video?
Hi Wolfgang,
if you have the time, could you check in the Bios, of the Board, if the 4650G has 4x4x4x4 Bifrucation on the x16 PCIe Slot, or only 8x4x4, like all other AM4 AMD CPU. I can't find any anything on the Internet...
Vielen Dank im Voraus ;)
Mark
I am now searching for a used system for a powerful but low power NAS/VM server. I haven't been able to find a smiliary system on Ebay in the USA with a MiniATX MB that I can move into a NAS Case. Do you have a reccomendation for how old of a Xeon or Core CPU we should buy and which to avoid? Currently my search for XEON is 2018 or newer and for CORE it is 8th Gen or newer. They must have the two virtualization features, a TDP of 50w max, and at least a 2.2Ghz base clock. The CORE processors also must have on board GPU so I don't waist a PCI slot on video. Does that make sense? I am curious as to what the criteria is for excluding the older models.
Does undervolting have much of an impact?
I've been thinking about building a home server from Ryzen 5700G, paired with B550 mobo and 64GB DDR4 ram (that is under 500€ for new parts),
only caveat is all those Ryzens with igpus provide only PCIe 3.0 speeds no matter if mobo has PCIe 4.0 support
Intel refurbished PCs are also going down in price and up in availability at this point. Similar-priced refurbished models have i5-8400 or so, which would also make a really good home server. I'd suggest adding RAM, though, since 8GB RAM is anaemic for some server tasks now.
How would this system run a virtual macOS within Proxmox passing through the GPU?
Great hardware ideas
Hi! do you have any video recommendation for setting up a personal cloud with nextcloud?
currently my nas consist of a i5 4460 , the ultra efficient 400w psu you talked about and a bunch of 2.5 inch ssd running on windows 10 file share + jellifinn . i have a r 7 1770 in my rig and was thinking to upgrade , shuld i put the 1700 on a nas whit a tiny gpu ? i got a gtx 620 for free so i was wondering , maybe undervolting the r7 and put it in the nas ? what do you think ?
For the 5.25” device bays, it may be better to put there 4 or 5 bays 3.5'' hdd cage. Like FlexCage MB975SP-B . Or mixed 3.5 and 2.5 cage.
I’d be careful with the latter suggestion as the 3.5” bay will only take HDDs with 6 mount points. I know that Seagate had some 1TB HDDs with 6 mount points years ago. 6TB may be the highest capacity these days.
Oh! Is the C6 states thing why my Linux server froze at random? I just bought a network-controlled power outlet and set it to cycle the power if it stopped responding to pings. Reboot times were fast enough that the downtime was irrelevant.