Copilot exits airplane mid flight without parachute! (Bizarre ATC audio)

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  • čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
  • Location: Raeford, North Carolina
    Accident Number: ERA22LA348
    Date and Time: July 29, 2022, 14:04 Local
    Registration: N497CA
    Aircraft: C A S A 212
    Injuries: 1 Fatal, 1 None
    Flight Conducted Under: Part 91: General aviation - Skydiving
    On July 29, 2022, at 1404 eastern daylight time, a Casa 212-200, N497CA, was substantially damaged in an accident near Raeford, North Carolina. The pilot-in-command (PIC) was uninjured, while the second-in-command (SIC) sustained fatal injuries during a diversion to Raleigh-Durham International Airport (RDU), Durham, North Carolina. The flight was a skydiving operation under Part 91 regulations.
    After completing two skydiving runs, the plane descended to Raeford West Airport (NR20) for a third group of skydivers. The SIC was flying the approach when the plane descended below the tree line and the right main landing gear (RMLG) struck the runway. The PIC took over, confirmed RMLG damage, and diverted to RDU.
    Enroute to RDU, the SIC became upset about the hard landing, opened his window, and felt sick. He lowered the aft ramp, left his seat, removed his headset, apologized, and exited the airplane without a parachute. The PIC notified air traffic control and continued to RDU, where he made an emergency landing. The plane veered off the runway and came to rest in the grass, sustaining substantial damage.
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Komentáře • 546

  • @typhoon2827
    @typhoon2827 Před měsícem +371

    Rumour has it the ATC still doesn't understand what has happened.

    • @trentstandingrock516
      @trentstandingrock516 Před 23 dny +6

      They do, they said that the co-pilot Charles Crooks felt bad about damaging the landing gear and told the pilot he was going to be sick. He lowered the rear ramp of the airplane and then literally ran out of it. He didn't fall, he committed suicide.

    • @typhoon2827
      @typhoon2827 Před 23 dny +49

      @@trentstandingrock516 you didn't really understand my post, did you?

    • @maggiemolly111
      @maggiemolly111 Před 23 dny +32

      😂 His previous job was being a clueless 911 operator.

    • @xxlocobassistxx
      @xxlocobassistxx Před 22 dny +17

      ​@@trentstandingrock516that's the NTSB, the ATC guy is still lost.

    • @tshirtfactory07
      @tshirtfactory07 Před 21 dnem

      😂😂😂😂

  • @henrynoel4223
    @henrynoel4223 Před měsícem +287

    Good thing they got the description, because when they find the body they want to make sure it's the right guy.

    • @DataJuggler
      @DataJuggler Před 28 dny +21

      I was thinking when they said 5 Foot 10, He might be a little shorter and flatter now. So sad. At least he only took himself out.

    • @MikeBrown-ex9nh
      @MikeBrown-ex9nh Před 28 dny +6

      Description...mellow jello.

    • @jeffreymanestar5319
      @jeffreymanestar5319 Před 25 dny

      Ha....nice

    • @ValiantKnight7983
      @ValiantKnight7983 Před 24 dny +11

      "No no no, that splattered body can't he him, our guy was in a black shirt."

    • @user-ik4br3nk2w
      @user-ik4br3nk2w Před 23 dny

      Pink mist spot on the ground

  • @wallinollipekka
    @wallinollipekka Před měsícem +159

    ATC didn't have trained for this kind of scenario. I think this is a unique situation for any atc controller.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před měsícem +13

      Once in a lifetime yeah

    • @Skank_and_Gutterboy
      @Skank_and_Gutterboy Před 29 dny +8

      Not making fun of him, he had a hard time processing that and who wouldn't? The pilot was amazingly calm with that kind of nutty news.

    • @senseisecurityschool9337
      @senseisecurityschool9337 Před 25 dny +4

      Yeah it's kinda "when you hear hoofbeats think horses, not zebras". But this time it wasn't horses, wasn't zebras - it was unicorns. It's a skydiving plane, so sure some sky divers jumped out. A pilot might hop out in the ground. It's just not reasonable to think you're being told a pilot jumped out *while the plane was flying*, and without a parachute. Clearly that's not right - they must be saying something else.

    • @whartonitec1041
      @whartonitec1041 Před 24 dny

      Likely the pilot said some harsh words to the co-pilot

    • @jackharle1251
      @jackharle1251 Před 22 dny

      Jesus, stop making excuses. This is an IQ issue

  • @1STLAR2147
    @1STLAR2147 Před měsícem +259

    This is truly sad. CoPilot was obviously having some personal issues. Wish he got some help he needed. I lost one of my Marine buddies last July to suicide. He called me that night wanting to sell me all his guns which I thought was unusual. I went to get them, drank a few beers, and bullshitted for a few hours. When I left he said said something funny like see you there or see you then. Next afternoon I get a call from his wife that he’d hung himself. Wish i would have listened to my gut that something was very wrong! I miss my friend.

    • @johntitorii6676
      @johntitorii6676 Před měsícem +12

      Sorry man , that aweful

    • @karoleenascottage
      @karoleenascottage Před měsícem +25

      It’s so difficult to put that together when a person is being vague. Afterwards it makes sense but there’s no way to know that up front. I’m a veteran and was actually a psych nurse in the reserves. Even with all the “buddy care” classes if a person doesn’t want you to know you’re not going to know especially with vets and first responders. Hang on to the fact that you spent time with him Devil Dog. 🙏 🇺🇸

    • @MooseGuy1
      @MooseGuy1 Před měsícem +3

      @@karoleenascottage It's the same with most everybody, sadly. Vets and first responders are not the only ones struggling with things. The people who are most likely to have a completed (no coming back) suicide rarely mention it.

    • @roryfulton90
      @roryfulton90 Před 23 dny +1

      Sorry for your loss man, you are not to blame taking the guns away would have done nothing sadly, suicide is never the answer. I have personal experience as well, my marine brother in-law in Florida when we visit has a new story about a vet friend it’s so sad.

    • @rileysmith606
      @rileysmith606 Před 22 dny

      @@karoleenascottageso sorry brother, your right you can never tell forsure and its not a lot you can say or do to change their mind”. One of my best friends who I referred to as my big brother was having mental problems around the time when I got a new job and was always in other states. Went from hanging out every day and getting sloshed on weekends to only seeing eachother twice a month. He ended up going to mental hospital for a week. When he got out I seen him for a second and said I’ll probably be over that night. I called the next day or two and no answer. Then found out he overdosed on fentanyl and had been sitting there in the house for a week… don’t know if it was on purpose or not but I wish I went there that night I was supposed to. I feel guilt for it we told eachother everything and I’m sure he had some shit on his chest he was holding in

  • @dwaynesykes694
    @dwaynesykes694 Před 28 dny +116

    Bro thought his career was over before it began because of a bad landing... if only he'd known that's actually a mandatory skill for RyanAir pilots.

    • @johnfranborra
      @johnfranborra Před 9 dny +1

      Seriously? Bad landings happen to everyone, no matter how much experience they have.

  • @jasonbean5052
    @jasonbean5052 Před měsícem +193

    Pilot - "My co-pilot just jumped out of the plane without a parachute"
    ATC - "Yeah, what is your point?"

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před měsícem +25

      He froze.. i mean that was unexpected and came out of nowhere
      He was never trained for this

    • @danielrn133
      @danielrn133 Před měsícem +25

      Dude ATC the last thing they expect to hear is a person jumped out of a plane. It takes a second to comprehend what they said and to make sure they understand. Also what can they do? They have to land the plane.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před měsícem +7

      Exactly

    • @ButterContest
      @ButterContest Před měsícem +12

      @danielrn133 The pilot knew what he could do: circle the accident site in order to ensure that first responders are sent to the correct location. This is common practice when planes go down near airports with nearby traffic available to assist. But yeah, ATC's confusion is understandable.

    • @perrysanders9998
      @perrysanders9998 Před měsícem +1

      Exactly. Not in the ATCs lane. The pilot should mark it as a waypoint on the GPS, call the police and then notify the ATC for the record.

  • @markairman8041
    @markairman8041 Před měsícem +145

    To be fair to the controller, when the guy said his CP jumped from a JUMP plane, i can understand the initial confusion. It wasn’t until the guy said he jumped wo a parachute that it started to sink in.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před měsícem +24

      I feel for the pilot.. imagine looking at the back of the plane only to find your co pilot is not there.. and then you have to land without the right main landing gear

    • @CharlieTheNerd91
      @CharlieTheNerd91 Před měsícem +1

      Yeah, I thought he will tell the pilot to note down a number due to the recklessness of the FO, since he didn't realize he jumped without a chute.

    • @buckwheat1070
      @buckwheat1070 Před měsícem

      “To be fair”

    • @RichiePajooh-r8i
      @RichiePajooh-r8i Před 22 dny

      they ever find the copilot or why he did this?

    • @CharlieTheNerd91
      @CharlieTheNerd91 Před 22 dny +6

      @@RichiePajooh-r8i Probably a mental breakdown after almost crashing the plane. Or he actually wanted to crash the plane into the trees, the PIC saved it, and bro jumped out so he didn't have to answer questions (that would be dark af)

  • @TheGospelQuartetParadise
    @TheGospelQuartetParadise Před měsícem +68

    I remember when this happened. I'm sure the ATC knew this was a skydiving plane, so when the pilot said his co-pilot jumped he had no idea that he didn't jump with a parachute like all the other skydivers.

  • @Skank_and_Gutterboy
    @Skank_and_Gutterboy Před 29 dny +30

    Approach: "Do you need something else?"
    Pilot: "No, the dude literally jumped out the back of the plane without a parachute."
    [Huge pregnant pause]
    The controller is having a hard time processing this and I'm not making fun of him, that's gotta be one nutty radio call to get and I'm sure his mind is racing, "Did I just hear that correctly???" I think his mind is blown and mine would, too.

    • @gregoryl.levitre9759
      @gregoryl.levitre9759 Před 18 dny +1

      He alerted his Supervisor. I'm sure there was plenty of off-air chatter going on.

    • @Stonecrusher333
      @Stonecrusher333 Před 16 dny

      Affirmative action...

    • @Skank_and_Gutterboy
      @Skank_and_Gutterboy Před 7 dny

      @@gregoryl.levitre9759
      Bet you're right. I think what really brought it home was when the pilot told him, "There's going to be a dead body out in the area that I just called you from." That clears up any confusion.
      The pilot's original call was, "My co-pilot just ran out the back of the plane." That's going to generate a lot of questions in the guy hearing that radio call. The pilot's mind was probably a bit blown, too. That's a lot on your head when you need to get the plane back to the airport and perform a gear-up landing.

  • @aaronbennett7032
    @aaronbennett7032 Před 23 dny +25

    That was my friend who jumped out the back. RIP man I miss you every day

  • @northstartacopilot61
    @northstartacopilot61 Před měsícem +63

    This is a tragic story, the copilot'd name was Charlie Crooks.... he was only 23 years old.
    I just lost someone to suicide, this hits home HARD for me.
    Charlie had a hard landing and was PIC Pilot in Control), sounds like he made a mistake, hit hard and collapsed the main gear. Sounds like he was so despondent that he jumped out of the back ramp.
    I thought he must have been drunk/high... he was stone cold sober.
    What a shame, just a kid and am aviator with a great future. Condolences to his family..... RIP Charlie

    • @daveluttinen2547
      @daveluttinen2547 Před měsícem +2

      You make a mistake like that once; you learn from it and move on. He would have been a great pilot having gotten that nasty event out of the way early. May he RIP. May is Pilot be at peace! That would be traumatic as the dickens to have your copilot feel so badly he'd choose to end it with one really bad landing. Wow.

    • @Skank_and_Gutterboy
      @Skank_and_Gutterboy Před 29 dny +3

      I remember hearing about this and not paying much attention, I figured that he fell off the plane after it landed at RDU. I thought that he went out on the wing of the stopped plane to throw up, then fell onto the ramp and died from hitting his head on the concrete or something like that. I had no idea that he suicide-jumped from a flying plane, I'm sorry that he did that.

    • @james.s7133
      @james.s7133 Před 17 dny +1

      A news article stated he had Kratom in his system. Could that explain his actions? I've never tried Kratom so I have no idea. The master pilot didn't describe crooks as appearing impaired.

    • @Xezlec
      @Xezlec Před 16 dny +3

      Dunno who told you he was sober, but I looked it up, and he was on drugs. Kratom was found in his system. It's a popular recreational drug if you are not aware.

    • @howtodoit1190
      @howtodoit1190 Před 14 dny +2

      He wasn't sober, he was fucked up on Kratom. As someone who has tried it (regrettably mind you) he DEFINITELY was not in his right mind

  • @RichardS-qh8mi
    @RichardS-qh8mi Před měsícem +47

    The poor communication on the ground was very telling - find it hard to believe so many people struggled to adequately explain the enormity of what just happened. Very sad.

    • @wjatube
      @wjatube Před měsícem +7

      The ambiguity of the pilot's description to ATC is where it all started.

    • @RichardS-qh8mi
      @RichardS-qh8mi Před 28 dny +5

      @@wjatube Yes - if he’d just simply: “My copilot just jumped out of the aircraft WITHOUT a parachute” from the start maybe there’d have been less confusion. However, still think it took longer to recognise what had happened than it should’ve.

    • @senseisecurityschool9337
      @senseisecurityschool9337 Před 25 dny +3

      If I'm headed to Taco Bell and my ears hear my wife say "get Mia to go", my brain corrects that to "get me a taco". Because "get me a taco" makes sense. "Get Mia to go" doesn't. That happens fairly often - it takes me a second to parse what someone said because the words my ears hear dying quite make sense. My brain figures what what they said based on what sounds like that and makes sense in context.
      Here, it's a skydiving flight, so people jumping out with their parachutes makes sense. A pilot hopping out in the ground could make sense. A pilot jumping out in flight, with no parachute, makes no sense. Clearly that's not reasonable; that can't be what they mean, the listener would think.

    • @dr.julianbashir9193
      @dr.julianbashir9193 Před 23 dny +1

      ​@@RichardS-qh8mi The nonchalant attitude the pilot displayed was very suspicious.
      If you listen to 911 calls by people trying to cover up their crimes, the person will often go straight into "story mode".
      The pilot immediately constructed a story.
      Also at the end where he says "Just letting you know you're gonna have a de*d body" is significant, as it shows his lack of empathy towards the loss of human life.
      Very weird case to be honest and I suspect he was convincing enough to pass interrogation.

    • @dr.julianbashir9193
      @dr.julianbashir9193 Před 23 dny +1

      ​@@RichardS-qh8mi Also just noticed that after constructing his initial story he switches to offer help with the question of "would you like me to circle the area?".
      Immediately setting himself up as a helper, rational thinking good guy.
      Totally out of place!
      Wouldn't the first thing you'd scream into the radio be "Call the ambulance, call everyone!"
      People have survived much greater falls.

  • @Renard380
    @Renard380 Před 19 dny +16

    That ATC guy sounds just like the kind of coworkers i deal with on a daily basis. You explain something important to them, expecting a quick reaction, but all you get is silence and no reaction whatsoever. After a while, all you get is a "uh okkay" and you have no idea if they understand or not. Pisses me off.

    • @krunkle5136
      @krunkle5136 Před 17 dny

      Drugs, bad education, lead paint.

    • @A_piece_of_broccoli
      @A_piece_of_broccoli Před 16 dny

      ​@krunkle5136 it's called shock, and yes it induces natural drugs to the brain as a coping measure which makes you dumb out.

  • @TexasHarleyBoy65
    @TexasHarleyBoy65 Před měsícem +79

    In all fairness, the description of the person is somewhat irrelevant. So you find a poor guy splattered in a parking lot, but you're not sure it's him, because his hair color is in question. 99.999% certainty, that when you find a body destroyed beyond belief, that's gonna be your boy.

    • @firehosediy7507
      @firehosediy7507 Před měsícem +6

      Hair color? Red.

    • @BenUK1
      @BenUK1 Před měsícem +4

      Exactly that. The description is irrelevant, if you find a guy body that looks like it fell from a plane then there's a pretty good chance it's your guy. Unless you have lots of people jumping out of planes (Without a parachute) in that area?!! :D

    • @theinquisitor3930
      @theinquisitor3930 Před 29 dny +3

      Ok yes. I work in the railroad industry. People trespass all the time. Train calls someone in and I call out police. I get it's their procedure but they always want a complete description. Dude. Drive to where I told you. If there is ANYONE near the tracks not wearing a high viz vest, that's your trespasser.
      In this case maybe they were expecting to find several bodies and wanted to narrow it down. Maybe it's a rough neighborhood 😂

    • @1ifbyland2ifbysea
      @1ifbyland2ifbysea Před 24 dny +2

      This comment had me falling down laughing

    • @DAndyLord
      @DAndyLord Před 21 dnem +2

      Skin is startlingly durable. Our guts and bones get smushed, but we normally stay inside the skin-bag.

  • @CandyGirl44
    @CandyGirl44 Před měsícem +12

    The PIC sounded in shock, which is maybe why he talked in such a measured, well controlled, everyday tone. Perhaps he had chewed the co pilot out for the bad landing and go around?

    • @A_piece_of_broccoli
      @A_piece_of_broccoli Před 16 dny +1

      It was 100% shock.
      So many commenters making fun and saying rude things, all of them are blessed to have never dealt with shock first hand.
      You brain stops working, you're in disbelief, you try to be calm and understanding but it comes off as uncaring and sometimes a nervous laugh slips out.
      It's sad really, no one wants to be the one who gets a call like that and it's completely unexpected.

  • @jmd12127
    @jmd12127 Před měsícem +121

    They do not have a description of the person? Flat, and mostly red.

    • @pstrzel
      @pstrzel Před měsícem +12

      Well, in case they find him they want to verify that it's him not just any ole body they usually find near middle schools.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před měsícem +14

      Thats DARK

    • @paulis7319
      @paulis7319 Před měsícem +11

      That should make him pretty easy to find, since most people these days are the exact opposite of flat.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před měsícem +7

      And it gets darker

    • @rawcado
      @rawcado Před měsícem +9

      "Do you have a description?"
      "White male, 27 y.o., he was 5'-10' but probably not now..."

  • @oxomaticman
    @oxomaticman Před 26 dny +45

    Description? Good Lord. Must be a pretty rough middle school.

    • @moimeme4840
      @moimeme4840 Před 17 dny

      @oxomaticman yea how many white men lay down dead at this middle school every day ???

    • @andycruzatx3387
      @andycruzatx3387 Před 17 dny +1

      I know right ? He'll be the guy splat on the ground. What more description is necessary

  • @nelsonde
    @nelsonde Před měsícem +18

    This was truly tragic. He thought his life was over at age 27. 😔

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před měsícem +2

      unfortunate

    • @MooseGuy1
      @MooseGuy1 Před měsícem +6

      @@Flight_Follower Yeah. Some in the media reported it as an accident but that's not what happened in my estimation. This young man was building time and investing money in a career that he probably thought was over before it started due to the bad landing. It's just sad.

    • @theChickenstones
      @theChickenstones Před měsícem +8

      @@MooseGuy1 It is very sad indeed. I'm a senior RN, many years ago a good and careful junior colleague of mine took incorrect medication to a patient, second guessed herself, went and checked the order and discovered her mistake, then returned and gave the patient the correct meds. She then quietly left the ward, (we were all looking for her) went home and hung herself. The only clue we had was that the patient stated that she had correctly checked the patients name and date of birth then looked at the medication before giving it then went away to correct it. Came back, repeatedly apologised and seemed very upset. We tried to contact her and one of the other Nurses tried to ring her numerous times that evening and when she didn't arrive on shift the following morning, we contacted the police who found her in her apartment. Just awful. 😞

    • @phiabia
      @phiabia Před 18 dny +3

      He was 23

  • @bunkerrocketworks3190
    @bunkerrocketworks3190 Před měsícem +7

    This is such a sad situation, hope the pilot got help after witnessing this unfortunate and unusual traumatic event.

  • @jamesgraham6122
    @jamesgraham6122 Před měsícem +18

    Fascinating to me why they're all so focused on a description.. Hey guys.. you'll recognise him.. He's Dead.
    What are likely to do, bypass any dead bodies lying crumpled in the area that don't fit the description ?

  • @theOnly_Gatsby
    @theOnly_Gatsby Před měsícem +11

    rumor has it the first controller used to be a 911 operator.

  • @pstrzel
    @pstrzel Před měsícem +45

    These emergency dispatchers are like playing telephone: "he left the airplane", "he jumped out", "he ejected from the airplane", "he took off from the airplane"... a few moments later, "they rejected the take off because the pilot just left the middle school".

    • @johnrueck7659
      @johnrueck7659 Před 23 dny

      Should be top comment

    • @belgadog99
      @belgadog99 Před 23 dny

      omg, i loved that game (in elementary school)! The more kids played, the more hilarious things we got at the end of the line ! sometimes, not even slightly similar words..

  • @thefreedomguyuk
    @thefreedomguyuk Před měsícem +39

    I don't think any ATC would be able to grasp what this radio call really meant.

  • @nuclearrabbit1
    @nuclearrabbit1 Před měsícem +19

    They reported the failed landing by the co-pilot before this incident. That will be classified as an accident on his record with the FAA, and could easily destroy his career. Potentially ending his dream of becoming a commercial pilot, not to mention all the time and money he's invested. The pressure on young pilots to be perfect is intense.

    • @DataJuggler
      @DataJuggler Před 28 dny +1

      That is still an extreme measure, even If he knew he was going to fail a drug or alcohol test. There are always other jobs.

    • @nuclearrabbit1
      @nuclearrabbit1 Před 28 dny +8

      @DataJuggler Perhaps. But at my university, it wasn't uncommon to hear of pre-med students jumping off a dorm roof due to a couple bad grades, ruining their chances of landing a spot at a prestigious medical school.
      This kid probably envisioned having just lost a career worth 15 million dollars in wages, prestige, and a dream of exploring the world. When I was a young pilot, I feared breaking a regulation or bending an aircraft much more than I valued my life. Most did at that time. It's the nature of the business.

    • @DataJuggler
      @DataJuggler Před 28 dny +2

      @@nuclearrabbit1 I had a pre-med cousin I didn't know very well who killed himself. I think it was his parents wanted him to be a doctor, and he didn't want to be.

    • @nuclearrabbit1
      @nuclearrabbit1 Před 28 dny +2

      @DataJuggler That's pretty sad. What's worse is that this kid obviously needed some help and had some issues. But seeking mental health professionals is the type of thing that will get you grounded and possibly lose your medical temporarily in aviation. It's also a huge black mark on your record. It's probably kind of archaic.

    • @michaelneufeld2649
      @michaelneufeld2649 Před 23 dny +2

      Feel terribly sorry for someone who goes through this but better than having a brake down later on with a plane full of passengers;

  • @mtnman1
    @mtnman1 Před měsícem +20

    The co pilot landed less than 200 yards south of my house. Crazy day.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před měsícem +1

      wow

    • @RealiTEAwithKristaMarie
      @RealiTEAwithKristaMarie Před 22 dny +2

      @@Flight_Followerdid they find him ???

    • @cooky1875
      @cooky1875 Před 21 dnem +3

      @@RealiTEAwithKristaMarie no 🤷‍♂️

    • @RealiTEAwithKristaMarie
      @RealiTEAwithKristaMarie Před 21 dnem +1

      @@cooky1875 wow !

    • @CockMcBallsddd
      @CockMcBallsddd Před 10 dny

      @@RealiTEAwithKristaMarie Did they find him? Is that really your question. How the fk would this guy know where the jumper landed if they hadn't found him. Holy shit learn to use your brain better.

  • @johno9507
    @johno9507 Před 25 dny +3

    'I have a description of that man, he was 5'10" but is probably closer to 8 or 9 inches now.'

  • @My-Pal-Hal
    @My-Pal-Hal Před 19 dny +2

    Jeez ...
    How many people does it take to change a lightbulb.
    Probably the only guy that could, jumped out of the plane.
    ... and i can't blame him 🤤

  • @timlewis7218
    @timlewis7218 Před 19 dny +2

    Discription "hes about 1 inch tall..."

  • @felixcat9318
    @felixcat9318 Před 10 hodinami

    In the NTSB Final Report, released earlier this month, they determined that there was no evidence to support the Pilot In Command's assertion that the Co-Pilot intentionally departed the aircraft!
    It was not possible to conclude whether the Co-Pilot intentionally jumped from the aircraft or if he accidentally fell from it as he tried to get fresh air at the open rear ramp to help with the nausea he'd reported feeling.
    The Co-Pilot's family said that he'd been looking forward to the flight and that he'd been in good spirits.
    Clearly, the benefit of the doubt applies in the absence of any evidence that he'd jumped from the aircraft, so it is reasonable to infer that this was a tragic accident.

  • @wjatube
    @wjatube Před měsícem +4

    To be fair they must find a lot of bodies around that school so they needed clarification.

  • @DinoBond007
    @DinoBond007 Před měsícem +13

    Why do they need a description of person, do they have multiple bodies laying around in that area 🤪

  • @gabriel-bl4ckh4wk-6
    @gabriel-bl4ckh4wk-6 Před měsícem +10

    Hey man, we've a problem with the landing gear and we need to do a emergency landing. -Co-pilot : What you mean "we"? Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  • @richsimon7838
    @richsimon7838 Před měsícem +10

    ‘I have Description of the person you’re looking for”, “OK, go ahead”, “Flat”

    • @someonespadre
      @someonespadre Před 29 dny +1

      Oh my gosh I laughed so hard and now my wife thinks I’m a bad person

    • @hhamk3656
      @hhamk3656 Před 19 dny +1

      Yeah. That question was dumb af 🤣

  • @russhartley4964
    @russhartley4964 Před měsícem +7

    We heard about this incident a while back. The copilot probably damaged the main gear on a really bad hard landing and I guess they did a go-around during which the guy said he’d go back and do a visual inspection of any damage. He opened the side door and leaned out for a good look and probably lost his balance in the slipstream and fell out. That’s just one story or explanation I heard.

  • @nrakma
    @nrakma Před měsícem +3

    Someone jumping out of a sky diving plane is not unusual although the pilot thought enough of it to mention it to ATC. So the next time your co pilot jumps out, if he or she does not have a parachute, you might want to include that fun fact in conversation to ATC.

  • @JBAviationIRL
    @JBAviationIRL Před měsícem

    RIP great videos keep up the amazing work

  • @nolatone
    @nolatone Před 23 dny +2

    “Do you have any identifying information for the copilot?”
    “Yes, he’s the guy splattered on the ground.”

  • @dlavarco
    @dlavarco Před měsícem +8

    Well, he was 5'10" when he left the plane anyway.

    • @w.ryanbutler8097
      @w.ryanbutler8097 Před měsícem +2

      ...and this guy we found on the ground has red pants, not tan like the description. Can't be him!

    • @pgnandt
      @pgnandt Před měsícem +2

      He's currently 4 feet tall now. Jus'sayin'.

    • @greggravitas5849
      @greggravitas5849 Před 25 dny +1

      @@pgnandt or maybe 11'6"... depends on his angle of approach..

    • @user-wi8nc9wo3x
      @user-wi8nc9wo3x Před 21 dnem

      Five, Ten pieces

  • @TheModelGuy
    @TheModelGuy Před měsícem +4

    Details we’re looking for? How many people are jumping from planes with no parachutes?

  • @peanutbutter2597
    @peanutbutter2597 Před měsícem +4

    If I was an A T C ? I would freak out myself ! That would be hard to respond to ! 😮

  • @Airpaycheck
    @Airpaycheck Před měsícem +3

    It was proposed that he felt sick and rather than ralph all over the cockpit he went to the back of the plane to attend to his needs. It was bumpy out and he probably lost his grim or stepped wrong and went out.

    • @Jeff-cr9ho
      @Jeff-cr9ho Před 20 dny

      That’s quite plausible. Guess we will never know

  • @TheKAWYG
    @TheKAWYG Před 23 dny +3

    What with atc respone there ?? "Do you need sonwthing" ??? Like no im good im in the plane still but you might wanna go find the guy that jumpped out ?? Its like his brain cant even acknowledged what hes hearing ?? Wild .

  • @TGraysChannels
    @TGraysChannels Před 10 dny

    I was about to take off from RDU as this was happening. Tower stopped all a/c movement. It was very confusing. An a/c coming in with a gear malfunction and a discussion of a pilot having "fallen" from the aircraft. We (the guys on the ground at Raleigh) were speculating that the 2nd pilot (we did not know which pilot) was attempting to view the damaged landing gear.
    Weird day.
    Tragic for the young man.

  • @cvanunen
    @cvanunen Před měsícem +5

    In the dictionary under ‘obtuse’ it says ‘see Raleigh approach’.

  • @jaguar3248
    @jaguar3248 Před měsícem +7

    I doubt he "jumped." More likely because he was feeling unwell, he missed or forgot to hold on to something and fell out.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před měsícem +3

      thats a possibility..NTSB final report was also inconclusive so i guess we will never know for sure

  • @parker73724
    @parker73724 Před 2 dny

    I'd be confused too, this pilot is so calm and sounds kinda irritated with the whole thing.

  • @warsurplus
    @warsurplus Před měsícem +37

    Either this is an everyday occurance for this controller or he's a little slow on the uptake. He seems to have no reaction as if it's commonplace.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před měsícem +19

      He simply froze and didn’t know how to react to that bizarre information

    • @Boss_Tanaka
      @Boss_Tanaka Před měsícem +2

      I don’t think he had be trained for this kind of stuff

    • @andysPARK
      @andysPARK Před měsícem +3

      It happens. It's outside of training and experience. He's startled and having trouble processing the information.

    • @JS-jy9og
      @JS-jy9og Před měsícem +10

      Someone jumping out of a skydiving plane is a regular occurrence. He just didn't pick up that it was without a parachute. The pilots tone also did not alert to this.

    • @28th_St_Air
      @28th_St_Air Před měsícem +6

      It was not easy to put 2 & 2 together because the pilot was not behaving/speaking in a way that was consistent with someone jumping out of the plan to kill themselves. He sounded very matter of fact as if describing a routine event. “My copilot just walked out of the back of the plane.” is no where near as consequential as, “I’m declaring an emergency. My co-pilot just jumped out with no parachute and committed suicide!!!”

  • @1ifbyland2ifbysea
    @1ifbyland2ifbysea Před 24 dny +1

    The gravity of this situation, his parents said he was born to fly, it seems they were wrong. He was not born to fly.

  • @MooseGuy1
    @MooseGuy1 Před měsícem +3

    t would seem that location is more important than a description. It isn't like the countryside is littered with smashed corpses.
    "Hmm, which one do you think it is?"
    "Hell if I know."
    "They said he was wearing a Timex. Yep, there it is. And it's still ticking."
    "This must be the place."

    • @belgadog99
      @belgadog99 Před 23 dny

      i had a Timex watch !! back in the 80s-90s ?

    • @MooseGuy1
      @MooseGuy1 Před 22 dny

      @@belgadog99 This date me badly but my parents bought me a Timex back in the 60s. It was a good watch.

  • @Migglesworth
    @Migglesworth Před 17 dny

    The ATC wasn't the sharpest tack in the drawer, but that pilot could have done a LOT better job of explaining the situation.

  • @UncleJoeLITE
    @UncleJoeLITE Před 24 dny +1

    Wow, I'm not often moved on yt, but what a real-life tragedy.
    No way ATC would be able to understand that, it sounds mad.
    What a horrible experience for all, I wish the poor guy had got help.

  • @wallacebell4311
    @wallacebell4311 Před 5 dny +1

    If you find a mangled body near the coordinates that the pilot gave then chances are that you found the jumper. Just saying!

  • @imtheonevanhalen1557
    @imtheonevanhalen1557 Před měsícem +2

    There's security cam footage audio of his body crashing through the trees.....unreal

  • @lorne2405
    @lorne2405 Před 16 dny +1

    A home owner heard the copilot slam into large tree branches just behind his back yard.

  • @leorobin832
    @leorobin832 Před 19 dny

    His family and the investigators are seemingly convinced he didnt kill himself because, he "was in a fabulous state of mind," and "loved to fly" but they seem to forget that people hide things and sometimes they just snap. His father also mentioned the man could be very hard on himself sometimes. One of the emplyees said he once had a "disproportionate, intense emotional and physical reaction upon becoming worried that he had lost a fuel payment card.” He may have felt so bad after messing up that he just made a quick decision and had the opportunity and took it. He most likley fell into a bad state of mind in that moment.

  • @danielx555
    @danielx555 Před 11 dny

    I don't want to be morbid but you really don't need identifying details for someone who has jumped out of an airplane. You're going to be able to identify a body as being the body that fell out of the sky.

  • @johnnyjericho8472
    @johnnyjericho8472 Před 15 dny

    Good thing they had his description.

  • @johnnybricklayer
    @johnnybricklayer Před 24 dny +2

    I hate that the first caller laughed when telling 911 what had happened. Hopefully it was a laugh brought on by him thinking it was a prank

    • @splurg123
      @splurg123 Před 23 dny +3

      The laughter response is probably one of two things:
      1) The caller is so desensitised to horrific stuff that he legitimately finds this funny relative to the rest.
      OR more likely
      2) The caller is in shock and doesn't know how to react to the absolutely WILD nature of the information he is having to rely.
      Either way, what a shit situation to be in right? Best wishes to the poor pilots family. Wishing you well.

    • @headstanding_Penguin
      @headstanding_Penguin Před 21 dnem +2

      I have had this happen to me in some stressful near accidents... I was so shocked that my first reaction was to laugh. Highly inappropriate reaction and not at all how I actually felt...

    • @BillyBob-ov5ef
      @BillyBob-ov5ef Před 21 dnem +1

      Some professions desensitize you to some awful stuff. That laugh could be him experiencing another horrific incident in their career. Then repeat that day after day for many years. Not saying it's right to develop that callousness, but it may be necessary for the human brain to protect itself.

  • @jessca_87
    @jessca_87 Před 13 dny

    The guy that called 911 really had the audacity to laugh over this situation…u have got to be kidding me 🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @tieember9596
    @tieember9596 Před 15 dny

    When you cant remember the controls and unintentionally exit your vehicle:

  • @RedCyanPhotos
    @RedCyanPhotos Před 26 dny +2

    Why did one guy lie and say that they both got out? Or did I get something wrong here?

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před 26 dny

      He guessed
      I guess

    • @everythingpony
      @everythingpony Před 17 dny

      ​@@Flight_Follower no? He sounded vey sure 2 people got off, like he was trying to cover his end

  • @lsx_moe
    @lsx_moe Před 21 dnem

    Good job to the PIC for safely landing the damaged casa under the stress/confusion he must have been experiencing due to the copilots decision to jump out the aircraft

  • @wolfhound45
    @wolfhound45 Před 20 dny

    On a positive note, going off the ramp of a CASA 212 is a pretty awesome experience.
    When you are wearing a parachute.

  • @InternaIRevenueService
    @InternaIRevenueService Před 21 dnem

    So from what I understand.
    They had a rough landing on first attempt, tore their right gear and called for a go-around.
    While in orbit for the go-around the co-pilot vomited, apologized, then jumped?
    Leaving the Pilot to make the emergeency landing.
    Poor dude must of had a panic attack. or maybe he thought his career was over?

  • @dooddrones6521
    @dooddrones6521 Před 21 dnem

    That ATC seems wholly incompetent. How many times do you need to be told that someone just jumped from an airplane without a parachute before you realize that maybe this is a serious situation that requires immediate action?

  • @joeofarrell1281
    @joeofarrell1281 Před měsícem +11

    RIP

  • @user-tj8wv7ri7d
    @user-tj8wv7ri7d Před měsícem +2

    Doesn't anyone in the RDU area listen? Flying around RDU must be very interesting, especially when you have an emergency.

  • @soju69jinro
    @soju69jinro Před 21 dnem

    cant believe the line of communication is that terrible, someone jumped out of the plane without a parachute and people keep saying things like he jumped out with a parachute.

  • @rotorblade9508
    @rotorblade9508 Před 18 dny

    looks like the SIC was afraid of what was going to happen after he damaged the aircraft quickly committed suicide

  • @Standing.W.Israel
    @Standing.W.Israel Před 12 dny

    How is this pilot so calm about his CP just jumping out of the pane!?

  • @glenstribling6123
    @glenstribling6123 Před 15 dny

    Much more likely he was sucked out trying to look around to see the damage he caused. The slip stream is very surprising.
    All these assumptions by the pilot and everyone else is making the life insurance company very happy.

  • @everythingpony
    @everythingpony Před 17 dny

    Any update? Im confused why they guy said "no they both landed" was he trying to lie for a cover up on his end?

  • @TheFlyingZulu
    @TheFlyingZulu Před 20 dny

    This is very sus... 0:44 the pilot sounds VERY calm for just witnessing somebody jumping out of a plane...

  • @chrisw6164
    @chrisw6164 Před 4 dny +1

    Competency Crisis is real.

  • @christopherdaly9384
    @christopherdaly9384 Před měsícem +1

    The only one with any communication skills is the guy flying the plane!!🤔

  • @batesBeckham
    @batesBeckham Před 17 dny

    Im afraid of a hard landing that might kill me so im going to increase my odds of dying to 100% and jump out the airplane instead, that way I defeat my fear of death by dying....am I understanding this correctly?

  • @DuncanMcTaggart
    @DuncanMcTaggart Před 27 dny

    Id have appreciated more details. Was he founf on ground? Was he mentaly umwell? his background?

  • @altec0312
    @altec0312 Před 17 dny

    Seems like the pilot in command would have been primarily responsible for the wheel. Co-pilot probably would have gotten off easy. This was so needless.

  • @88997799
    @88997799 Před 17 dny

    This ATC guy explains all the confusion on 911… they still don’t know what happened. How many times does this guy have to explain it on the radio?
    Imagine this is your 911 operator… 😂

  • @theargonauts8490
    @theargonauts8490 Před měsícem +11

    Sounds like a Dan Gryder flight

  • @cybercat1531
    @cybercat1531 Před 18 dny

    The ground communications are attrocious. Every time its relayed to someone else, more context is lost. Until ultimately its reduced to nothing.

  • @StewTube
    @StewTube Před 24 dny

    So did this happen a few days ago or a uear ago?

  • @1798iscomingback
    @1798iscomingback Před měsícem +15

    There is a overall need here to train people how to communicate.
    The pilot can't expect ATC would act if someone , even the co pilot, jumped out of a SKYDIVING PLANE.
    First contact with ATC should be something like " my co pilot committed suicide by jumping out of the plane w/o parashoot..."
    Full information that leaves no room for guessing.
    The 911 people and police comms sounds like a bad joke.
    Emergency should be CLEAR information

    • @MooseGuy1
      @MooseGuy1 Před měsícem +3

      Fair points. Still, the pilot (the one still in the plane) already had his hands full with a damaged landing gear and a divert to RDU.

    • @ardeladimwit
      @ardeladimwit Před měsícem +1

      great comment from kibbitzer, but unrealistic and a bit on snide side. Pilot must concentrate on landing plane and can do nothing about plusquam perfectum post factum. He can say that on the ground. Besides if he makes such a statement" suicide", he most likely won't be able to concentrate ion landing plane. When facing shock, you deal with the immediate in best way possible. Ditto the other emergency services. Brains trained to be disciplined don't deal well with the irrational; brain tries rationalize things that are irrational. Hence the problem of "motive" in murder. If pilot thinks in your prescribed manner, he will very likely suffer shock and never land that plane and there will be second casualty. In reality, all of the varying statements are fairly clear and they are all trying to "make sense" of an irrational action. People aren't robots.

    • @1798iscomingback
      @1798iscomingback Před měsícem

      @@ardeladimwit The problem is not the recovering of the co-pilot body as soon as possible but instead that the body of the co-pilot may have fallen over a car or a house and now you have people that are trapped and in need or urgent care.
      As a captain (boat not planes) I learned I'm responsible for ALL lives that may be affected by my activity and we (captains) should prepare for the worst and that includes fricking situations where people will be/may be dying around you and in order to avoid more deaths you need to act fast and communicate clearly.
      It is tough but is what comes with the privilege to be a captain.

  • @bavery6957
    @bavery6957 Před 23 dny +1

    His name was Charles Hew Crooks

  • @rogue8853
    @rogue8853 Před měsícem +1

    Sometimes i wonder if there wasnt hazing on the pilots part. He was like "the dude just jumped. you're gonna have a dead body just to let you know" I feel like the guy had other issues going on and just couldn't take it anymore

  • @sirtango1
    @sirtango1 Před měsícem +4

    I’m pretty sure I know this place. Jump Raeford, near Fort Bragg? If so I jumped there back in the 90’s. Don’t remember a lot about it though.
    *EDIT* They don’t have a description of the guy that jumped out yet! How many people do you find on average that have jumped out of an airplane without a parachute per week?

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před měsícem

      You will get enough information about the guy in open source
      You can also visit the link in description

  • @jayj205
    @jayj205 Před 23 dny

    This makes no sense. When you read this, the plane was on the ground when co pilot jumped out using the aft emergency shoot, but the audio dictates a whole different story.

  • @saltymcsalt
    @saltymcsalt Před 17 dny

    It's because he was the only man in history to have not saved money with Geico.

  • @Unknown-pc9yq
    @Unknown-pc9yq Před 18 dny +1

    ATC sounds incompetent af.

  • @Dat_Sun
    @Dat_Sun Před 17 dny

    If someone's not telling the truth, this could actually be a very dark story..

  • @aspenbutler4414
    @aspenbutler4414 Před 21 dnem

    ATC was flabbergasted he couldn’t even comprehend the insanity of the situation lol

  • @BoberMcBoberson
    @BoberMcBoberson Před 20 dny +1

    Description??? Dude jumped from 3500ft. He’s going to be a splattered heap of meat! Shouldn’t be too hard to pick him out😅

  • @internetperson9121
    @internetperson9121 Před 3 dny

    “Do we know who we’re looking for?”
    A puddle??

  • @vaclavadamec-mynickharrymesser

    Its so strange giving 👍 to this kind of report . Anyway I am glad to watch it 🫡 Really good and interesting video , seems like work of professional 😎

  • @dion789
    @dion789 Před 19 dny

    It's the internet, people. The conversation has een edited for this video. A few cuts here and there can do a lot.

  • @rapiersister5032
    @rapiersister5032 Před 16 dny

    ATC sounded like he was just trying to finish his shift and go home. lmao

  • @JohnDoe-on6ru
    @JohnDoe-on6ru Před 19 dny +1

    When you accidentally J out

  • @2smoker64
    @2smoker64 Před 17 dny

    What is the description of the person,
    because weve had a lot of people falling out of the sky today and we want to make sure we get the right guy.

  • @ryanmullins2103
    @ryanmullins2103 Před 13 dny

    That pilot was soooo chilll…

  • @steveneff7879
    @steveneff7879 Před 17 dny

    Can you describe him?.....Yeah, he will be the dead guy that looks like he fell from an airplane.