Copilot exits airplane mid flight without parachute! (Bizarre ATC audio)
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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
- Location: Raeford, North Carolina
Accident Number: ERA22LA348
Date and Time: July 29, 2022, 14:04 Local
Registration: N497CA
Aircraft: C A S A 212
Injuries: 1 Fatal, 1 None
Flight Conducted Under: Part 91: General aviation - Skydiving
On July 29, 2022, at 1404 eastern daylight time, a Casa 212-200, N497CA, was substantially damaged in an accident near Raeford, North Carolina. The pilot-in-command (PIC) was uninjured, while the second-in-command (SIC) sustained fatal injuries during a diversion to Raleigh-Durham International Airport (RDU), Durham, North Carolina. The flight was a skydiving operation under Part 91 regulations.
After completing two skydiving runs, the plane descended to Raeford West Airport (NR20) for a third group of skydivers. The SIC was flying the approach when the plane descended below the tree line and the right main landing gear (RMLG) struck the runway. The PIC took over, confirmed RMLG damage, and diverted to RDU.
Enroute to RDU, the SIC became upset about the hard landing, opened his window, and felt sick. He lowered the aft ramp, left his seat, removed his headset, apologized, and exited the airplane without a parachute. The PIC notified air traffic control and continued to RDU, where he made an emergency landing. The plane veered off the runway and came to rest in the grass, sustaining substantial damage.
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Rumour has it the ATC still doesn't understand what has happened.
They do, they said that the co-pilot Charles Crooks felt bad about damaging the landing gear and told the pilot he was going to be sick. He lowered the rear ramp of the airplane and then literally ran out of it. He didn't fall, he committed suicide.
@@trentstandingrock516 you didn't really understand my post, did you?
😂 His previous job was being a clueless 911 operator.
@@trentstandingrock516that's the NTSB, the ATC guy is still lost.
😂😂😂😂
Good thing they got the description, because when they find the body they want to make sure it's the right guy.
I was thinking when they said 5 Foot 10, He might be a little shorter and flatter now. So sad. At least he only took himself out.
Description...mellow jello.
Ha....nice
"No no no, that splattered body can't he him, our guy was in a black shirt."
Pink mist spot on the ground
ATC didn't have trained for this kind of scenario. I think this is a unique situation for any atc controller.
Once in a lifetime yeah
Not making fun of him, he had a hard time processing that and who wouldn't? The pilot was amazingly calm with that kind of nutty news.
Yeah it's kinda "when you hear hoofbeats think horses, not zebras". But this time it wasn't horses, wasn't zebras - it was unicorns. It's a skydiving plane, so sure some sky divers jumped out. A pilot might hop out in the ground. It's just not reasonable to think you're being told a pilot jumped out *while the plane was flying*, and without a parachute. Clearly that's not right - they must be saying something else.
Likely the pilot said some harsh words to the co-pilot
Jesus, stop making excuses. This is an IQ issue
This is truly sad. CoPilot was obviously having some personal issues. Wish he got some help he needed. I lost one of my Marine buddies last July to suicide. He called me that night wanting to sell me all his guns which I thought was unusual. I went to get them, drank a few beers, and bullshitted for a few hours. When I left he said said something funny like see you there or see you then. Next afternoon I get a call from his wife that he’d hung himself. Wish i would have listened to my gut that something was very wrong! I miss my friend.
Sorry man , that aweful
It’s so difficult to put that together when a person is being vague. Afterwards it makes sense but there’s no way to know that up front. I’m a veteran and was actually a psych nurse in the reserves. Even with all the “buddy care” classes if a person doesn’t want you to know you’re not going to know especially with vets and first responders. Hang on to the fact that you spent time with him Devil Dog. 🙏 🇺🇸
@@karoleenascottage It's the same with most everybody, sadly. Vets and first responders are not the only ones struggling with things. The people who are most likely to have a completed (no coming back) suicide rarely mention it.
Sorry for your loss man, you are not to blame taking the guns away would have done nothing sadly, suicide is never the answer. I have personal experience as well, my marine brother in-law in Florida when we visit has a new story about a vet friend it’s so sad.
@@karoleenascottageso sorry brother, your right you can never tell forsure and its not a lot you can say or do to change their mind”. One of my best friends who I referred to as my big brother was having mental problems around the time when I got a new job and was always in other states. Went from hanging out every day and getting sloshed on weekends to only seeing eachother twice a month. He ended up going to mental hospital for a week. When he got out I seen him for a second and said I’ll probably be over that night. I called the next day or two and no answer. Then found out he overdosed on fentanyl and had been sitting there in the house for a week… don’t know if it was on purpose or not but I wish I went there that night I was supposed to. I feel guilt for it we told eachother everything and I’m sure he had some shit on his chest he was holding in
Bro thought his career was over before it began because of a bad landing... if only he'd known that's actually a mandatory skill for RyanAir pilots.
Seriously? Bad landings happen to everyone, no matter how much experience they have.
Pilot - "My co-pilot just jumped out of the plane without a parachute"
ATC - "Yeah, what is your point?"
He froze.. i mean that was unexpected and came out of nowhere
He was never trained for this
Dude ATC the last thing they expect to hear is a person jumped out of a plane. It takes a second to comprehend what they said and to make sure they understand. Also what can they do? They have to land the plane.
Exactly
@danielrn133 The pilot knew what he could do: circle the accident site in order to ensure that first responders are sent to the correct location. This is common practice when planes go down near airports with nearby traffic available to assist. But yeah, ATC's confusion is understandable.
Exactly. Not in the ATCs lane. The pilot should mark it as a waypoint on the GPS, call the police and then notify the ATC for the record.
To be fair to the controller, when the guy said his CP jumped from a JUMP plane, i can understand the initial confusion. It wasn’t until the guy said he jumped wo a parachute that it started to sink in.
I feel for the pilot.. imagine looking at the back of the plane only to find your co pilot is not there.. and then you have to land without the right main landing gear
Yeah, I thought he will tell the pilot to note down a number due to the recklessness of the FO, since he didn't realize he jumped without a chute.
“To be fair”
they ever find the copilot or why he did this?
@@RichiePajooh-r8i Probably a mental breakdown after almost crashing the plane. Or he actually wanted to crash the plane into the trees, the PIC saved it, and bro jumped out so he didn't have to answer questions (that would be dark af)
I remember when this happened. I'm sure the ATC knew this was a skydiving plane, so when the pilot said his co-pilot jumped he had no idea that he didn't jump with a parachute like all the other skydivers.
exactly thats what happened
Approach: "Do you need something else?"
Pilot: "No, the dude literally jumped out the back of the plane without a parachute."
[Huge pregnant pause]
The controller is having a hard time processing this and I'm not making fun of him, that's gotta be one nutty radio call to get and I'm sure his mind is racing, "Did I just hear that correctly???" I think his mind is blown and mine would, too.
He alerted his Supervisor. I'm sure there was plenty of off-air chatter going on.
Affirmative action...
@@gregoryl.levitre9759
Bet you're right. I think what really brought it home was when the pilot told him, "There's going to be a dead body out in the area that I just called you from." That clears up any confusion.
The pilot's original call was, "My co-pilot just ran out the back of the plane." That's going to generate a lot of questions in the guy hearing that radio call. The pilot's mind was probably a bit blown, too. That's a lot on your head when you need to get the plane back to the airport and perform a gear-up landing.
That was my friend who jumped out the back. RIP man I miss you every day
Very sorry to hear that. Clearly had extremely high expectations of himself or something. So unfortunate and becoming far too common.
What was his name
Quit lying you troll.
Charlie crooks
Lmao what a dingleberry
This is a tragic story, the copilot'd name was Charlie Crooks.... he was only 23 years old.
I just lost someone to suicide, this hits home HARD for me.
Charlie had a hard landing and was PIC Pilot in Control), sounds like he made a mistake, hit hard and collapsed the main gear. Sounds like he was so despondent that he jumped out of the back ramp.
I thought he must have been drunk/high... he was stone cold sober.
What a shame, just a kid and am aviator with a great future. Condolences to his family..... RIP Charlie
You make a mistake like that once; you learn from it and move on. He would have been a great pilot having gotten that nasty event out of the way early. May he RIP. May is Pilot be at peace! That would be traumatic as the dickens to have your copilot feel so badly he'd choose to end it with one really bad landing. Wow.
I remember hearing about this and not paying much attention, I figured that he fell off the plane after it landed at RDU. I thought that he went out on the wing of the stopped plane to throw up, then fell onto the ramp and died from hitting his head on the concrete or something like that. I had no idea that he suicide-jumped from a flying plane, I'm sorry that he did that.
A news article stated he had Kratom in his system. Could that explain his actions? I've never tried Kratom so I have no idea. The master pilot didn't describe crooks as appearing impaired.
Dunno who told you he was sober, but I looked it up, and he was on drugs. Kratom was found in his system. It's a popular recreational drug if you are not aware.
He wasn't sober, he was fucked up on Kratom. As someone who has tried it (regrettably mind you) he DEFINITELY was not in his right mind
The poor communication on the ground was very telling - find it hard to believe so many people struggled to adequately explain the enormity of what just happened. Very sad.
The ambiguity of the pilot's description to ATC is where it all started.
@@wjatube Yes - if he’d just simply: “My copilot just jumped out of the aircraft WITHOUT a parachute” from the start maybe there’d have been less confusion. However, still think it took longer to recognise what had happened than it should’ve.
If I'm headed to Taco Bell and my ears hear my wife say "get Mia to go", my brain corrects that to "get me a taco". Because "get me a taco" makes sense. "Get Mia to go" doesn't. That happens fairly often - it takes me a second to parse what someone said because the words my ears hear dying quite make sense. My brain figures what what they said based on what sounds like that and makes sense in context.
Here, it's a skydiving flight, so people jumping out with their parachutes makes sense. A pilot hopping out in the ground could make sense. A pilot jumping out in flight, with no parachute, makes no sense. Clearly that's not reasonable; that can't be what they mean, the listener would think.
@@RichardS-qh8mi The nonchalant attitude the pilot displayed was very suspicious.
If you listen to 911 calls by people trying to cover up their crimes, the person will often go straight into "story mode".
The pilot immediately constructed a story.
Also at the end where he says "Just letting you know you're gonna have a de*d body" is significant, as it shows his lack of empathy towards the loss of human life.
Very weird case to be honest and I suspect he was convincing enough to pass interrogation.
@@RichardS-qh8mi Also just noticed that after constructing his initial story he switches to offer help with the question of "would you like me to circle the area?".
Immediately setting himself up as a helper, rational thinking good guy.
Totally out of place!
Wouldn't the first thing you'd scream into the radio be "Call the ambulance, call everyone!"
People have survived much greater falls.
That ATC guy sounds just like the kind of coworkers i deal with on a daily basis. You explain something important to them, expecting a quick reaction, but all you get is silence and no reaction whatsoever. After a while, all you get is a "uh okkay" and you have no idea if they understand or not. Pisses me off.
Drugs, bad education, lead paint.
@krunkle5136 it's called shock, and yes it induces natural drugs to the brain as a coping measure which makes you dumb out.
In all fairness, the description of the person is somewhat irrelevant. So you find a poor guy splattered in a parking lot, but you're not sure it's him, because his hair color is in question. 99.999% certainty, that when you find a body destroyed beyond belief, that's gonna be your boy.
Hair color? Red.
Exactly that. The description is irrelevant, if you find a guy body that looks like it fell from a plane then there's a pretty good chance it's your guy. Unless you have lots of people jumping out of planes (Without a parachute) in that area?!! :D
Ok yes. I work in the railroad industry. People trespass all the time. Train calls someone in and I call out police. I get it's their procedure but they always want a complete description. Dude. Drive to where I told you. If there is ANYONE near the tracks not wearing a high viz vest, that's your trespasser.
In this case maybe they were expecting to find several bodies and wanted to narrow it down. Maybe it's a rough neighborhood 😂
This comment had me falling down laughing
Skin is startlingly durable. Our guts and bones get smushed, but we normally stay inside the skin-bag.
The PIC sounded in shock, which is maybe why he talked in such a measured, well controlled, everyday tone. Perhaps he had chewed the co pilot out for the bad landing and go around?
It was 100% shock.
So many commenters making fun and saying rude things, all of them are blessed to have never dealt with shock first hand.
You brain stops working, you're in disbelief, you try to be calm and understanding but it comes off as uncaring and sometimes a nervous laugh slips out.
It's sad really, no one wants to be the one who gets a call like that and it's completely unexpected.
They do not have a description of the person? Flat, and mostly red.
Well, in case they find him they want to verify that it's him not just any ole body they usually find near middle schools.
Thats DARK
That should make him pretty easy to find, since most people these days are the exact opposite of flat.
And it gets darker
"Do you have a description?"
"White male, 27 y.o., he was 5'-10' but probably not now..."
Description? Good Lord. Must be a pretty rough middle school.
@oxomaticman yea how many white men lay down dead at this middle school every day ???
I know right ? He'll be the guy splat on the ground. What more description is necessary
This was truly tragic. He thought his life was over at age 27. 😔
unfortunate
@@Flight_Follower Yeah. Some in the media reported it as an accident but that's not what happened in my estimation. This young man was building time and investing money in a career that he probably thought was over before it started due to the bad landing. It's just sad.
@@MooseGuy1 It is very sad indeed. I'm a senior RN, many years ago a good and careful junior colleague of mine took incorrect medication to a patient, second guessed herself, went and checked the order and discovered her mistake, then returned and gave the patient the correct meds. She then quietly left the ward, (we were all looking for her) went home and hung herself. The only clue we had was that the patient stated that she had correctly checked the patients name and date of birth then looked at the medication before giving it then went away to correct it. Came back, repeatedly apologised and seemed very upset. We tried to contact her and one of the other Nurses tried to ring her numerous times that evening and when she didn't arrive on shift the following morning, we contacted the police who found her in her apartment. Just awful. 😞
He was 23
This is such a sad situation, hope the pilot got help after witnessing this unfortunate and unusual traumatic event.
Fascinating to me why they're all so focused on a description.. Hey guys.. you'll recognise him.. He's Dead.
What are likely to do, bypass any dead bodies lying crumpled in the area that don't fit the description ?
It is America…
rumor has it the first controller used to be a 911 operator.
😂😂😂
These emergency dispatchers are like playing telephone: "he left the airplane", "he jumped out", "he ejected from the airplane", "he took off from the airplane"... a few moments later, "they rejected the take off because the pilot just left the middle school".
Should be top comment
omg, i loved that game (in elementary school)! The more kids played, the more hilarious things we got at the end of the line ! sometimes, not even slightly similar words..
I don't think any ATC would be able to grasp what this radio call really meant.
couldnt agree more..
I disagree.
They reported the failed landing by the co-pilot before this incident. That will be classified as an accident on his record with the FAA, and could easily destroy his career. Potentially ending his dream of becoming a commercial pilot, not to mention all the time and money he's invested. The pressure on young pilots to be perfect is intense.
That is still an extreme measure, even If he knew he was going to fail a drug or alcohol test. There are always other jobs.
@DataJuggler Perhaps. But at my university, it wasn't uncommon to hear of pre-med students jumping off a dorm roof due to a couple bad grades, ruining their chances of landing a spot at a prestigious medical school.
This kid probably envisioned having just lost a career worth 15 million dollars in wages, prestige, and a dream of exploring the world. When I was a young pilot, I feared breaking a regulation or bending an aircraft much more than I valued my life. Most did at that time. It's the nature of the business.
@@nuclearrabbit1 I had a pre-med cousin I didn't know very well who killed himself. I think it was his parents wanted him to be a doctor, and he didn't want to be.
@DataJuggler That's pretty sad. What's worse is that this kid obviously needed some help and had some issues. But seeking mental health professionals is the type of thing that will get you grounded and possibly lose your medical temporarily in aviation. It's also a huge black mark on your record. It's probably kind of archaic.
Feel terribly sorry for someone who goes through this but better than having a brake down later on with a plane full of passengers;
The co pilot landed less than 200 yards south of my house. Crazy day.
wow
@@Flight_Followerdid they find him ???
@@RealiTEAwithKristaMarie no 🤷♂️
@@cooky1875 wow !
@@RealiTEAwithKristaMarie Did they find him? Is that really your question. How the fk would this guy know where the jumper landed if they hadn't found him. Holy shit learn to use your brain better.
'I have a description of that man, he was 5'10" but is probably closer to 8 or 9 inches now.'
Jeez ...
How many people does it take to change a lightbulb.
Probably the only guy that could, jumped out of the plane.
... and i can't blame him 🤤
Discription "hes about 1 inch tall..."
In the NTSB Final Report, released earlier this month, they determined that there was no evidence to support the Pilot In Command's assertion that the Co-Pilot intentionally departed the aircraft!
It was not possible to conclude whether the Co-Pilot intentionally jumped from the aircraft or if he accidentally fell from it as he tried to get fresh air at the open rear ramp to help with the nausea he'd reported feeling.
The Co-Pilot's family said that he'd been looking forward to the flight and that he'd been in good spirits.
Clearly, the benefit of the doubt applies in the absence of any evidence that he'd jumped from the aircraft, so it is reasonable to infer that this was a tragic accident.
To be fair they must find a lot of bodies around that school so they needed clarification.
Why do they need a description of person, do they have multiple bodies laying around in that area 🤪
Gotta know who's insurance to bill😒
Hey man, we've a problem with the landing gear and we need to do a emergency landing. -Co-pilot : What you mean "we"? Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
lol
Damn that's dark. Funny, but dark.
‘I have Description of the person you’re looking for”, “OK, go ahead”, “Flat”
Oh my gosh I laughed so hard and now my wife thinks I’m a bad person
Yeah. That question was dumb af 🤣
We heard about this incident a while back. The copilot probably damaged the main gear on a really bad hard landing and I guess they did a go-around during which the guy said he’d go back and do a visual inspection of any damage. He opened the side door and leaned out for a good look and probably lost his balance in the slipstream and fell out. That’s just one story or explanation I heard.
Someone jumping out of a sky diving plane is not unusual although the pilot thought enough of it to mention it to ATC. So the next time your co pilot jumps out, if he or she does not have a parachute, you might want to include that fun fact in conversation to ATC.
RIP great videos keep up the amazing work
thank you
“Do you have any identifying information for the copilot?”
“Yes, he’s the guy splattered on the ground.”
Well, he was 5'10" when he left the plane anyway.
...and this guy we found on the ground has red pants, not tan like the description. Can't be him!
He's currently 4 feet tall now. Jus'sayin'.
@@pgnandt or maybe 11'6"... depends on his angle of approach..
Five, Ten pieces
Details we’re looking for? How many people are jumping from planes with no parachutes?
If I was an A T C ? I would freak out myself ! That would be hard to respond to ! 😮
It was proposed that he felt sick and rather than ralph all over the cockpit he went to the back of the plane to attend to his needs. It was bumpy out and he probably lost his grim or stepped wrong and went out.
That’s quite plausible. Guess we will never know
What with atc respone there ?? "Do you need sonwthing" ??? Like no im good im in the plane still but you might wanna go find the guy that jumpped out ?? Its like his brain cant even acknowledged what hes hearing ?? Wild .
I was about to take off from RDU as this was happening. Tower stopped all a/c movement. It was very confusing. An a/c coming in with a gear malfunction and a discussion of a pilot having "fallen" from the aircraft. We (the guys on the ground at Raleigh) were speculating that the 2nd pilot (we did not know which pilot) was attempting to view the damaged landing gear.
Weird day.
Tragic for the young man.
In the dictionary under ‘obtuse’ it says ‘see Raleigh approach’.
I doubt he "jumped." More likely because he was feeling unwell, he missed or forgot to hold on to something and fell out.
thats a possibility..NTSB final report was also inconclusive so i guess we will never know for sure
I'd be confused too, this pilot is so calm and sounds kinda irritated with the whole thing.
Either this is an everyday occurance for this controller or he's a little slow on the uptake. He seems to have no reaction as if it's commonplace.
He simply froze and didn’t know how to react to that bizarre information
I don’t think he had be trained for this kind of stuff
It happens. It's outside of training and experience. He's startled and having trouble processing the information.
Someone jumping out of a skydiving plane is a regular occurrence. He just didn't pick up that it was without a parachute. The pilots tone also did not alert to this.
It was not easy to put 2 & 2 together because the pilot was not behaving/speaking in a way that was consistent with someone jumping out of the plan to kill themselves. He sounded very matter of fact as if describing a routine event. “My copilot just walked out of the back of the plane.” is no where near as consequential as, “I’m declaring an emergency. My co-pilot just jumped out with no parachute and committed suicide!!!”
The gravity of this situation, his parents said he was born to fly, it seems they were wrong. He was not born to fly.
t would seem that location is more important than a description. It isn't like the countryside is littered with smashed corpses.
"Hmm, which one do you think it is?"
"Hell if I know."
"They said he was wearing a Timex. Yep, there it is. And it's still ticking."
"This must be the place."
i had a Timex watch !! back in the 80s-90s ?
@@belgadog99 This date me badly but my parents bought me a Timex back in the 60s. It was a good watch.
The ATC wasn't the sharpest tack in the drawer, but that pilot could have done a LOT better job of explaining the situation.
Wow, I'm not often moved on yt, but what a real-life tragedy.
No way ATC would be able to understand that, it sounds mad.
What a horrible experience for all, I wish the poor guy had got help.
If you find a mangled body near the coordinates that the pilot gave then chances are that you found the jumper. Just saying!
There's security cam footage audio of his body crashing through the trees.....unreal
Link?
A home owner heard the copilot slam into large tree branches just behind his back yard.
His family and the investigators are seemingly convinced he didnt kill himself because, he "was in a fabulous state of mind," and "loved to fly" but they seem to forget that people hide things and sometimes they just snap. His father also mentioned the man could be very hard on himself sometimes. One of the emplyees said he once had a "disproportionate, intense emotional and physical reaction upon becoming worried that he had lost a fuel payment card.” He may have felt so bad after messing up that he just made a quick decision and had the opportunity and took it. He most likley fell into a bad state of mind in that moment.
I don't want to be morbid but you really don't need identifying details for someone who has jumped out of an airplane. You're going to be able to identify a body as being the body that fell out of the sky.
Good thing they had his description.
I hate that the first caller laughed when telling 911 what had happened. Hopefully it was a laugh brought on by him thinking it was a prank
The laughter response is probably one of two things:
1) The caller is so desensitised to horrific stuff that he legitimately finds this funny relative to the rest.
OR more likely
2) The caller is in shock and doesn't know how to react to the absolutely WILD nature of the information he is having to rely.
Either way, what a shit situation to be in right? Best wishes to the poor pilots family. Wishing you well.
I have had this happen to me in some stressful near accidents... I was so shocked that my first reaction was to laugh. Highly inappropriate reaction and not at all how I actually felt...
Some professions desensitize you to some awful stuff. That laugh could be him experiencing another horrific incident in their career. Then repeat that day after day for many years. Not saying it's right to develop that callousness, but it may be necessary for the human brain to protect itself.
The guy that called 911 really had the audacity to laugh over this situation…u have got to be kidding me 🤦🏻♀️
When you cant remember the controls and unintentionally exit your vehicle:
Why did one guy lie and say that they both got out? Or did I get something wrong here?
He guessed
I guess
@@Flight_Follower no? He sounded vey sure 2 people got off, like he was trying to cover his end
Good job to the PIC for safely landing the damaged casa under the stress/confusion he must have been experiencing due to the copilots decision to jump out the aircraft
On a positive note, going off the ramp of a CASA 212 is a pretty awesome experience.
When you are wearing a parachute.
So from what I understand.
They had a rough landing on first attempt, tore their right gear and called for a go-around.
While in orbit for the go-around the co-pilot vomited, apologized, then jumped?
Leaving the Pilot to make the emergeency landing.
Poor dude must of had a panic attack. or maybe he thought his career was over?
That ATC seems wholly incompetent. How many times do you need to be told that someone just jumped from an airplane without a parachute before you realize that maybe this is a serious situation that requires immediate action?
RIP
RIP
Doesn't anyone in the RDU area listen? Flying around RDU must be very interesting, especially when you have an emergency.
cant believe the line of communication is that terrible, someone jumped out of the plane without a parachute and people keep saying things like he jumped out with a parachute.
looks like the SIC was afraid of what was going to happen after he damaged the aircraft quickly committed suicide
How is this pilot so calm about his CP just jumping out of the pane!?
Much more likely he was sucked out trying to look around to see the damage he caused. The slip stream is very surprising.
All these assumptions by the pilot and everyone else is making the life insurance company very happy.
Any update? Im confused why they guy said "no they both landed" was he trying to lie for a cover up on his end?
This is very sus... 0:44 the pilot sounds VERY calm for just witnessing somebody jumping out of a plane...
Competency Crisis is real.
The only one with any communication skills is the guy flying the plane!!🤔
Im afraid of a hard landing that might kill me so im going to increase my odds of dying to 100% and jump out the airplane instead, that way I defeat my fear of death by dying....am I understanding this correctly?
Id have appreciated more details. Was he founf on ground? Was he mentaly umwell? his background?
Seems like the pilot in command would have been primarily responsible for the wheel. Co-pilot probably would have gotten off easy. This was so needless.
This ATC guy explains all the confusion on 911… they still don’t know what happened. How many times does this guy have to explain it on the radio?
Imagine this is your 911 operator… 😂
Sounds like a Dan Gryder flight
Gold
The ground communications are attrocious. Every time its relayed to someone else, more context is lost. Until ultimately its reduced to nothing.
So did this happen a few days ago or a uear ago?
There is a overall need here to train people how to communicate.
The pilot can't expect ATC would act if someone , even the co pilot, jumped out of a SKYDIVING PLANE.
First contact with ATC should be something like " my co pilot committed suicide by jumping out of the plane w/o parashoot..."
Full information that leaves no room for guessing.
The 911 people and police comms sounds like a bad joke.
Emergency should be CLEAR information
Fair points. Still, the pilot (the one still in the plane) already had his hands full with a damaged landing gear and a divert to RDU.
great comment from kibbitzer, but unrealistic and a bit on snide side. Pilot must concentrate on landing plane and can do nothing about plusquam perfectum post factum. He can say that on the ground. Besides if he makes such a statement" suicide", he most likely won't be able to concentrate ion landing plane. When facing shock, you deal with the immediate in best way possible. Ditto the other emergency services. Brains trained to be disciplined don't deal well with the irrational; brain tries rationalize things that are irrational. Hence the problem of "motive" in murder. If pilot thinks in your prescribed manner, he will very likely suffer shock and never land that plane and there will be second casualty. In reality, all of the varying statements are fairly clear and they are all trying to "make sense" of an irrational action. People aren't robots.
@@ardeladimwit The problem is not the recovering of the co-pilot body as soon as possible but instead that the body of the co-pilot may have fallen over a car or a house and now you have people that are trapped and in need or urgent care.
As a captain (boat not planes) I learned I'm responsible for ALL lives that may be affected by my activity and we (captains) should prepare for the worst and that includes fricking situations where people will be/may be dying around you and in order to avoid more deaths you need to act fast and communicate clearly.
It is tough but is what comes with the privilege to be a captain.
His name was Charles Hew Crooks
Sometimes i wonder if there wasnt hazing on the pilots part. He was like "the dude just jumped. you're gonna have a dead body just to let you know" I feel like the guy had other issues going on and just couldn't take it anymore
i guess we will never know for sure..
I’m pretty sure I know this place. Jump Raeford, near Fort Bragg? If so I jumped there back in the 90’s. Don’t remember a lot about it though.
*EDIT* They don’t have a description of the guy that jumped out yet! How many people do you find on average that have jumped out of an airplane without a parachute per week?
You will get enough information about the guy in open source
You can also visit the link in description
This makes no sense. When you read this, the plane was on the ground when co pilot jumped out using the aft emergency shoot, but the audio dictates a whole different story.
It's because he was the only man in history to have not saved money with Geico.
ATC sounds incompetent af.
If someone's not telling the truth, this could actually be a very dark story..
ATC was flabbergasted he couldn’t even comprehend the insanity of the situation lol
Description??? Dude jumped from 3500ft. He’s going to be a splattered heap of meat! Shouldn’t be too hard to pick him out😅
“Do we know who we’re looking for?”
A puddle??
Its so strange giving 👍 to this kind of report . Anyway I am glad to watch it 🫡 Really good and interesting video , seems like work of professional 😎
It's the internet, people. The conversation has een edited for this video. A few cuts here and there can do a lot.
ATC sounded like he was just trying to finish his shift and go home. lmao
When you accidentally J out
What is the description of the person,
because weve had a lot of people falling out of the sky today and we want to make sure we get the right guy.
That pilot was soooo chilll…
Can you describe him?.....Yeah, he will be the dead guy that looks like he fell from an airplane.