Mid-Air Collision In Colorado! | How Did Metroliner and Cirrus Collide?!
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- This air crash investigation looks at the mid air collision that occurred between a Key Lime Air, Fairchild Swearingen SA226 Metroliner and a Cirrus SR22 on 12 May 2021. Both General Aviation aircraft were landing on parallel runways at Centennial airport, Englewood, Colorado. The Metroliner on runway 17L and the Cirrus on 17R, everything seemed to be going normally until the aircraft made contact and the emergency situation took place! A quick Mayday, Mayday, Mayday! from the pilot of the metroliner rang out over the radios, what happens next really shocked me!
Final report: data.ntsb.gov/...
Metroliner lll for xplane 11 by Starvingpilot: forums.x-plane...
I hope you enjoyed this one!
Just a point on the aircraft, the one shown is a SA-227, rather than a SA-226. The aircraft are massively similar with the main difference being a 3 bladed prop on the SA-226.
Still a great video! Your numbers are climbing!
Never say the word "and" when saying a date. You should know this, you are from the birthplace of the English Language lol.
Instead of " Two Thousand And Twenty One" , just say, "Two Thousand Twenty One".
the word And when used in a date is the bridge between two different dates. 😉
My thoughts exactly
@@Mr.Deleteriousit's also used to indicate that the numbers should be added together. 2000 + 21 is 2021. It's not incorrect, it's just not common in the US. When critiquing someone's grammar, make sure to use the standards set by the speaker's country of origin, not your own. Never say never unless you've done your research.
The SA-227 also has wing extensions that are absent on the SA-226.
I passed by that Key Lime plane on the way to one of my training flights. I don't know how you could ever land that in that state, that pilot is a miracle worker.
That pilot initially didn't know he'd been struck by another aircraft. He did such a good job focusing on flying the plane that he thought there was a major problem with the rudder mechanism until he heard another pilot advise the tower that the cirrus was on parachute over the state park.
@@novicereloader he thought it was an engine failure....not a rudder issue
That pilot goes to my church - I guess I know someone famous 😂
@@ZachShannon yes....Shannon
No casualties? That's insane!
Amazing!
The metroliner somehow managed to land despite losing the back chunk of it
Are seat covers 'entities'
Don’t spoiler 🥲 (no but I’m honestly glad they survived)
Thats due to the inherently safe design of the Cirrus and the best safety feature available for GA Aircraft.
Finally, one of these stories ends with no deaths. Those parachutes always intrigued me. Saved two lives.
Cirruses need those parachutes. I consider them to be dangerous airplanes.
@@rescue270 It's almost always pilot error, as in this case too.
@rescue270
all aircraft are dangerous machines! Especially with pilots aboad!
@@rescue270 Why? I've been in one on several occasions and they seem like a good aircraft.
@@bigd3046
I've been in one, too. It was heavier than I thought it would be, loved fuel, and if it rained the windshield would leak water into that big display screen and short it out, and they are prone to flat spinning.
Supposedly they've improved them, but, as I've been told, still not enough to keep them from easily flat spinning if they stall. That's why they have that parachute, and intentional stalls are prohibited in them. Their stall/spin characteristics were not going to be acceptable to the FAA, so they asked for a waiver from meeting those criteria if they incorporated a BRS parachute system into the Type Design. Somehow the FAA agreed to that.
Not many airplanes have ever been able to recover from a flat spin. It's not an added safety feature. It's a necessary part of Type Design. It cannot be removed and maintain legal Airworthiness. The shroud lines of the chute are embedded into the composite fuselage skin. Deploying the chute totals the airplane.
Seems like a lot of them have crashed, despite the chute. Furthermore, the chute has to be removed every ten years and repacked at considerable expense- I've heard $15,000-$20,000- in order to maintain Airworthiness. Can't call myself a fan of them. One guy I knew loved them. Another guy said he thought their Airworthiness Certificates should be revoked.
My question is was the Cirrus pilot actually thinking he was going to land flying that dang fast in the pattern.
That’s a great point!! Perhaps the final report has some information on that. 👍👍
The final report has the speed and the recommended speed, but nothing else. 😧
I was thinking he was flying faster because of the density altitude at 7000. Never flown a Cirrus so not sure. I would have to ask an instructor.
Talked to instructor. He said 98 was a decent downwind speed. Pilot probably had to take a leak and was in a hurry to get down.
@@timtreeborgsonjen1533, indicated airspeed is always the same regarding density altitude. GROUND speed is affected. If you are a pilot, I suggest you thoroughly educate yourself on this matter, as it is of some importance to piloting.
Wow! What a testament to the build quality of the bigger craft, value of CAPS, skill of the pilots, and divine intervention!
The skill of ONE pilot, sure. The Cirrus pilot, not so much.
Crazy how you don’t need CAPS if you don’t fly into other aircraft…
@@ttystikkrocks1042it’s a shame it can’t in some way be replicated by a good pilot in a plane without one. Like, it seems to stop spinning and go wings level with the greatest of ease. There’s a new model of Cirrus with a “wings level” button that really seems to work. I wonder what it’s actually doing to the aircraft that pilots could learn to copy?
Great video and a fantastic outcome. Did either aircraft have a transponder on and would that need to be on the same frequency to see another plane? Sorry if some of this sounds a bit “beginner-ish”, but it would be interesting to know.
2.9.24 JUST EDITED the first sentence as I missed out a word which made it sound nonsense.
@@moiraatkinsonthe transponders would likely have not made a difference since both planes were already in communication with the tower. The error on the ground was poor communication between controllers, the error in the air was the Cirrus pilot flying half again too fast in the pattern, overshooting his turn and infringing on the other plane's flight path. It is there that ultimate responsibility for the accident rests.
@@ttystikkrocks1042thank you - I assume transponders can “step on” each other like people do. The other thing I wondered about was why they didn’t get TCAS warnings, because the radio altimeter triggers those? Or why they had such a dumb system of traffic control in the first place? You could literally have 2 controllers lining up 2 planes to land on the same runway at the same time, with no communication between planes or people.
The Cirrus thought he was flying a 737, with those approach speeds. It would have been a long float at landing.
The performance of the Metro and it's Pilot are impressive.
The menace flying the Cirrus was so badly out of control that he was literally aligned with the wrong runway yet so many of you figure he would have flown a sensible pattern if everyone was on the same frequency? Those of you who are licensed should think back to your days as a student and recall how many times a flight instructor used the term "Good landings come from good approaches" in your presence.
@@superkendall1003 I have spent too much of my life with my hand on my throttle!😂
I did that before. To fast. Simple error. Im guilty as charged
The point with using the same frequency is to improve situational awareness for BOTH pilots. As it was this time, the only pilot who knew there was traffic on both runways was the one who flew like he needed a bathroom break immediately.
As soon as you mentioned the speed of the Cirrus I immediately knew what the outcome would be.
I don't even think airline transport jets come in that fast.
@@solefinder3708it wasn't a jet
@@solefinder3708 that's about 737 speeds.
I'm not even a tower controller, but my first though was "hey, that's not right, that's way too fast". From what I know, a 737-800 has an approach speed of ~140 kt.
This one has been covered by many aviation channels, but your visuals beat them all. Still wonder how the Cirrus pilot thought he was going to land with that much energy. Unfortunately not spotting advised traffic got him first.
he landed exactly how he was meant to, eventually, land. 🧐👆
I'm hugely surprised the Cirrus pilot never saw the Metroliner...what's all that glass around you for?
@@stejer211 it's not a _vision_ problem but a cognitive one. 🤡
Ja, one of my "almost died there" was caused by two aircraft being on different tower frequencies.
A CH Sea stallion was cleared to depart with an underslung load after a bunch of V22 Ospreys had done a pretty formation turn off the runway and soaked the air with dust.
Our airliner was cleared to takeoff by the civil controller only to find at V1 at the end of the dust cloud was a shipping container on a wire 50 feet above the runway.
We had nowhere to go except to stay on the ground and roast the brakes.
This was Djibouti in case anyone is interested.
Jeezus!
@@BobbyGeneric145 yeh, I didn't even manage to yell the word STOP !!! as we both saw this at the same instant.
Fortunately training kicked in but the brakes took 30 minutes to return to the takeoff limiting temperature.
How refreshing. Nobody was hurt despite the severity of the impact.
Ballistic parachutes are a terrific invention, and have saved many souls since their inception.
Those parachutes only work if the plane is travelling around 100 mph or less.
Interestingly, there was another pilot on his first solo flight who witnessed the mid air collision. He radioed the tower and handed the situation perfectly, according to the tower.
Wow, I was very happy to hear that no one was hurt! Thank God and the folks that built that bigger plane.
A deployable parachute for the entire aircraft? That's pretty cool. I didn't even know what was a thing.
They have been around for a couple of decades, at least! They are only available for small planes. I believe they originated on ultra light craft and evolved to include single engine general aviation!
Cirrus pioneered the general development and deployment of the ballistic parachute system for their line of aircraft. You can now find them in many types of ultralight, light sport and general aviation aircraft.
They even strap people to them these days!
@@stejer211 😁
It's almost a trademark of Cirrus Aircraft. There are some interesting analysis on the how much safer if makes the aircraft.
Learned to fly at Centennial. Those runways are CLOSE. We were usually in that RH pattern for 17R and the instructors drilled into us that we absolutely must not overshoot base to final. BTW what a great airport, one of the busiest Class D airports in the US. I drove past the Key Lime place every day for training. The Texas Death Tube is really a beautiful machine. Also saw lots of warbirds and those amazing Piaggio Avanti canard commuters. That was a fun time. Glad everyone was okay here.
Landed on 35L with a P40 off to my right once.
"Texas Death Tube"; I thought they were called "Lawn Darts". 🤔
@@user-kn3qq4he7u google “metroliner nicknames”, there’s a bunch of them and they’re all, er, not complimentary! 🤣
The San Antonio Sewer Pipe
I never had any problem with staying clear from 17l while doing t-n-g If i was doing 90 knt mid field for 17R i would be going way to fast! Then i hear about this guy entering the pattern at 148 knts i though what is this guy doing ?!?
I remember hearing about this one. I also recall that the plane behind the Cirrus in the pattern was a student on his first solo, who helped spot the chute for ATC (and then landed normally, if maybe a bit shaken).
But what a story he has to tell!
I'm waiting for someone to post 'I was that student'...
That would complete the story...yep.
@@solefinder3708 I was that student.
One of the major factors for the metro was
That all of her control cables run through the floor. The metro is a well built and excellent aircraft. I know of 2
Companies here that fly them as cargo and there is one out of Canada that actually fly them for passenger service.
I remember this accident. The local NBC affiliate immediately tried to do a hit piece on Key Lime Air because...well, because they could. They seemed to think it was cute to blame the airline because it is a mean ol' corporation. NBC is also a mean ol' corporation and May 12 is the mid-point of the April 25-May 22 Nielsen Ratings Period.
I always wondered why they still fly those Metroliners. Now I know. They must be good aircraft.
Very solidly built.
Might be solid, and perhaps a good small freight plane, but I had to endure a lot of time in them as a passenger.
They're one of a few planes that can't sustain level flight on a single engine...
We refer to them as Death Pencils.
@@Danger_mouse The Army was using these “death pencils” to shuttle brass around Afghanistan in 2017. I know because I used to fuel them. They were civilian flown under contract. So if they were so terrible, why still use them? I asked a lot of questions because I am an aviation nerd and was curious why they still used them? If your information is correct, why would you want them in areas of high density altitudes? I didn’t see any jato in the tail. Lol My guess is that was an issue for their airliner role? I also got the impression that they were used because of their hot and high capabilities? I have no idea if that is true, based on vague memory? They also don’t have single point fueling, which is annoying if you are fueling this bird between airliners. My profile pic with the silly F-16 model, is in my shared fuel truck. It is pointing right towards where they parked the C-26. Behind the CRJ.
@@andrewlast1535
Can't imagine 'Brass' being too excited at crawling down the aisle on their hand and knees and sitting with their heads bent over due to the shape of the fuselage.
They must have really had nothing else 🙂👍
@@Danger_mouse I highly doubt they are configured like the airliner variant.
Beautifully-told and visually-spectacular. Thank you!
In my 40 year flying career I can honestly say the closest I’ve ever come to being wiped out in mid air was in a situation like this. The contributing factor in both my incidents (yes both) was a xwind from the right producing a tailwind on base for the aircraft on the parallel. In two seperate incidents only 3 days apart, the aircraft on the right parallel came sailing through my centre line as I was conducting a straight in on the left. I fortunately I saw both aircraft in time and was able to take evasive action. In the second incident a few days after the first, my evasive action was so extreme that I was forced to abandon the approach. I left for the airlines the next day! When asked by the ground controller to contact him by phone the pilot of the offending aircraft (grizzled old charter pilot, who frankly should have known better) pushed back and became even belligerent!
I flew in that Cirrus as my discovery flight at KAPA, a few weeks later when I came back to the school for training, I found out that “DJ” was not available and was involved in a mid air. Scared me straight from the start of my flying career. Crazy how it all turned out
Sure was crazy to show up to the hangar that day and see a Metro with the top fuselage peeled open!! One of the craziest things olive ever seen!
Excellent video, with good, clear explanations and graphics. I like the flight simulations, leading up towards the actual post-incident photos of both planes. I imagine that at least one of the occupants of the Cirrus had a fairly unforgettable visual memory from the instant of the actual collision, whereas the poor pilot of the Metroliner probably had little idea of what had happened and just how close the plane came to an inflight breakup which would have led to a very different outcome.
Very true!
every pilot should know his pattern and approach speeds. the flap 50 limitation on the cirrus sr22 is 119 kts and the flap 100 at 104 kts. no trained cirrus pilot would fly a pattern at 140 kts (way too fast) and then even set the flaps. you would be in immediate danger to structurally damage the airplane. that only shows an unexperienced and/or reckless cirrus pilot, that should not be flying this complex airplane. additionally, no pilot would overshoot a base turn on parallel runways to interfere with the centerline of the OTHER runway. we did not hear the real ATC in this video, but the controller would most certainly call the cirrus pilot to attention for this overshoot. ATC for sure knows, that the parallel runway is in use and would immediately intervene and call the cirrus. does anyone have the ATC recordings? did ATC call the pilot?
It says in the video that the Cirrus was advised of the traffic.
The cirrus guy was flying almost double the appropriate approach speed and just kept right on truckin' through the centerline of his runway into the path of another aircraft that he was TOLD was there.....He is 100% responsible. If the Metroliner pilot had been killed, the cirrus pilot should've been charged with reckless homicide.
I'm pretty much with you on this one! I would only add, that when you are cleared to 17R, you stay the Hell away form 17L!!!!
When i hear there two close lines operated with two different towers, with different frequencies....i immediately know what's gonna to happen.
ATC was required to notify the pilots of the other traffic.
It wasn’t the different frequencies. It was the failure of one of the controllers to do his job.
@@sludge8506 It was the idiot in the Cirrus not only flying too fast and through the extended centerline of his intended runway, but the fact that he flew through the extended centerline of the other runway as well. Not to mention flying through the center of the Metroliner while he was at it. And he was advised of traffic which should have been very easily visible from the Cirrus.
@@serge470 tower 1 and tower 2 are workstations near to each other.
@@M1903a4 Champ, my statement is factually accurate. Deal with it. I wasn’t determining who was at fault for the accident.
Wow. I can't believe that Metroliner didn't just come apart. That's really impressive.
Also, the separate tower frequency thing is weird. It's incredibly beneficial for pilots to hear the chatter from other aircraft in their vicinity, especially when you have mixed general and commercial traffic.
BTW, ATC is required to inform both pilots of the nearby traffic.
I spent about 6 years working on both the metro 226 & 227. They’re a pain in the ass to work but they’re built like tanks. All of the control cables (for the tail) run through the floor.
@@sludge8506they did
@@dareelamb1964as opposed through the ceiling? They all go through the floor
@@platapus112not all.
Yay! So good to see an upload that isn’t about an incident that has been covered a hundred times.
I think that channels that begin pivoting to interesting GA and charter incidents, rather than rehashing Tenerife, JAL 123, AA 191 etc will thrive.
There’s a fatal GA accident almost every other day and others, such as this one, that are interesting despite having no casualties. Keep telling me about these and please spare me another deep dive into incidents that every single aviation channel covers.
Thank you, it’s good to hear. You’ve been here long enough to see I cover a lot of GA incidents. Like you say, there is still so much to learn from them!
@@CuriousPilot90 Yes I recall making a similar comment on this very channel. Keep up the good work.
Finally! Someone’s talks about this incident. I found it like a year ago, it’s so interesting
Looks like the Metro in this video is an SA-227 Metro 3. The 226 had a three bladed prop and the landing gear doors would be open on the ramp. Both sported the Garrett TPE-331-10UA engine, although the 3 had a more powerful version IIRC.
Still a beast of an airplane to fly, and worse to work on!
That said, Metros were overbuilt to a large extent, partly because they also had a high differential pressure fuselage.
Extending flaps at 20 knots over Vfe, 50-60 knots in excess of the recommended approach speed, and 140 knots in a relatively close traffic pattern is absolutely ridiculous.
Fun fact - as of two weeks ago, the Metroliner is still parked on the ramp at APA. The fuselage is all wrapped up and just sitting there.
Great information and graphics, well done,Bill
The Cirrus would have employed a steeper than normal bank-angle while attempting to limit the overshoot to finals for 17R.. this would have completely blanked out his vision of anything to his left side. I get the impression that the annual loss-rate/hours flown of the Cirrus exceeds any other light single.. At close to a million dollars I can't but suspect that many are owned/flown by people that consider dollars can offset their limited flying skills... just a thought.
And they're right... sadly enough, and thanks to the ballistic parachute.
What simulation software do you use? The visuals are fantastic! Great work!
Thank you, a slightly more difficult one to simulate this time. I used a mix of x plane 11 and 12.
I assume the Cirrus pilot's license was revoked permanently. Approach speed was far too fast, and flap extension above maximum speed. It is a wonder the flaps did not rip off from the wings.
I bet not, sadly.
I love the stories where everyone lives.
I land at centennial on runway 17R a lot for my training, and my main concern while landing is to make sure I turn early on base before final, to make sure I don’t cross over the centerline. This is exactly why. I didn’t know this happened, let alone at my airport on my runway. Crazy stuff
Great job- thanks for the upload
Most cirrus "pilots" have no business being at the controls.
I was in class at Spartan College, when I heard about it. I asked if it was Metro Airport, but I was told by a couple classmates and a teacher that it was at Centenial. I do remember that day with that green key lime air and the red cirrus that deployed its parachute. Very very lucky day for all on board. One of those little events I probably wont ever forget.
That one was crazy one. I remember, when it happened. Still no idea, howw the pilots of Metrojet were able to bring it down in one peace. And I also remember, that they had no clue, what happened, until they got out of cockpit and discovered, that they have big part of fuselage missing..... Really crazy story with good ending)))
Pilot of Metrojet, there was only one person onboard, the pilot.
Piece
It's crazy that the cirrus pilot was still over 140kt on down wind and 140kt on base leg. I can never understand why people do that, it's only gonna save you few seconds or maybe 1 minute but it puts other aircraft and people in those aircraft in danger. Pilots like that should have their PPL revoked.
If you fly that fast and turn and bank correctly it can be done.. but most GA pilots are not that proficient, so they f.u. No reason to revoke the license.
Don't ever lump in cirrus pilots with other GA pilots. Until someone can train a cirrus pilot to actually look out their windshield they should disable the parachute which will thin the hurd of their arrogance...
@@flexairzBudy you are *WAY* off! This wasn't an airshow performance. Cirrus operator (can't call him a pilot) should have lost his license, for good!
That Metro was a tough old bird. Built in the 1970's you say. Must have had better quality control back then. Certain companies planes seem prone to start falling apart as they come off the production line these days. Strangely same company used to make planes that could take massive damage and still bring the boys back home - wonder what changed?
Not "better quality control" but rather higher built in margins of error because they weren't built using finite element modeling. THAT'S why older planes tend to be tougher but also slower and thirstier.
Great video! I love you can tell where an aviator is from based on their phraseology like Q&H / Altimeter, Holding Point / Hold Short, Circuit / Traffic Patten.
Or being a pilot at Centennial when i heard the parts about Salida and ATC and im like uncontrolled field... would have been a CTAF call and gun it
Thanks for covering this one... it was a stunning story! A local jaw-dropper!!!
I heard about this mishap when it happened & have always been curious to learn more. Thank you for this information, Curious Pilot.
Several very lucky characteristics of both aircraft saved the crew’s lives, the Metro’s control cables rout through the floor and the floor is reinforced for cargo which is why it never came apart and remained controllable, the composite structure of the Cirrus prevented in flight break up post impact and of course the Capps system did what it is supposed to. This was a Swiss cheese model of positives for a change that came into play after a series of mistakes caused the initial incident.
Such a good point, an example of the swiss cheese model in both the positive and negative.
I used to fly at Centennial airport all the time. It's crazy to see this, how miraculous it turned out. I did my first solo flight on 17R flying the same pattern the cirrus was in. Crazy.
I believe the FAA report noted the "passenger" in the Cirrus was actually a llama (possibly alpaca) wearing a hat.
@spacewolfjr...now that's something I would love to see 😂😂😂
RUFS???
Seriously?
What?! The passenger was a lama wearing a hat?? ROFL that’s the craziest thing I’ve ever heard of! It must have been a shock for the emergency services to see that climbing out of the plane uninjured 😂
I seriously LOLd
I drew slick sketch for Ike, Family Friend in '54. One look & he ordered Top Secret Security Card for me. Few days later kid's size drafting table showed up, w/note DOD Kelly Johnson was my Handler - signed Ike! He had been PO'd as designs from expected sources regurgitated WW2 designs, where as my design looked as if half-bird. '63 thought OK, but Kelly's super speedster spy plane the "71" to be canceled, as much slower than design & poor mileage. He had been workin' on it for years, but could not cure above problems, sent Dual Colonel Couriers out with all plane's poop. I redesigned defective Belly, coded it in into IBM-360, Dad ran if for me, all faults cured, & it had taken less than 3 hrs! Kelly happy, had Gift of F4 Phantom Acrobatic Demo Ride for me, w/world's smallest G-Suit. We sped up to Mich U.P. Bomber Base for refuel, then over Lk. Superior for Aerobatics, but @FL64 Test Pilot broke, actually coming down w/6 wk FLU!! He blew chunks until still, so took control wanting to live. Like in your video, it was pure terror for me just being 13, no ID'd us to Tower, & told Controller, "Pilot out, just pushed over, heading back to Base straight down on burners, need runway please." He asked if F4, so answered affirmative. Controller said would help w/speeds for pull-out, touch, chutes, & runway remaining. He advised to stay away from parking lots, buildings, & parked Bombers! He was amazing, estimated pull-out exact, got us down to 411MPH to touch, I slalomed 2mi runway, stopping w/5 feet to spare, & engines outta gas! He had Fire/Rescue/Medical right there, & Doc saved Test Pilot's life, even though both tires aflame & blew while he was on ladder! Anyways, that was my introduction to "Terror in the Skies", w/dive so fast it even welded all the plates on! Kelly was very unhappy with me, but after 3 days, I had no idea what was going on for 6 weeks, just like the Test Pilot! He couldn't get back in air until 8th week when could again pass Class 1 Flight Physical. If somebody says they got somethin' for ya...RUN THE OTHER WAY!!
Yikes, this basically happened a few miles south of my house!
I was once almost a hood ornament on an C-5A that was on a very low altitude speed run over the Florida everglades heading north. At the time I was in contact with PBI approach flying my assigned altitude and heading for a landing on 9R. Not a peep from approach. Pays to have your head on a swivel!
The one condition where the chutes are life savers ... loss of control input and messed up control surfaces. just so glad they all survived, man that's crazy
I wonder how many lives would be saved if all small craft were required to have those parachute systems. Seems a lot of crashes involve small crafts so it could be a lot.
Knowing you have a parachute gives you confidence to land at unsafe speeds too.
If I am not mistaken the Cirrus pilot was warned by ATC to keep his base and final turn tight as there was traffic landing on the parallel runway.
Woah! Aviation has come a LONG way! I can't believe everyone lived! Those Cirrus Airframe Parachutes are a live saver! I just wish there was a way to make air travel TOTALLY safe- I'm sure EVENTUALLY that will be the case, especially when we get to antigravity technology where we won't NEED excessive speed... Hmm...
Great video. I remember this happening. Thank you for posting 😊
Centennial is close to my home, and if you drive past the Key Lime Air hangar, this aircraft is outside with a cover over the hole.
If not for parachutes, Cirrus would be the next-gen Doctor Killer.
Best graphics on CZcams❤
A few knots over speed is not an issue. The pilot was FIFTY knots too fast, half again as fast as he should have been. The Cirrus is a pretty high performance light plane and it requires paying close attention to airspeed. Cirrus pilots are giving a good plane a bad reputation.
I live approx 4 miles north east of Centennial and have taken trial lessons out of there. This video proved a good reminder of the event. As I recall VASAviation had Excellent coverage of the event at the time and I saw it on his channel before catching it local news.
Great graphics!! ✈️✈️✈️🛩️
That's a miracle everyone survived!
I flew thousands of hours instructing at Centennial. I have flown that Cirrus, and if the information I received is correct, I trained the Metroliner's pilot through several of his ratings. One factor not brought up is the distance that the controllers are extending downwind. The further out you fly, the less ability a pilot has to determine the approach centerline. The runways are close, and a pilot can believe that they are on centerline when, in fact, they may be 100' off. Speed was a major factor.
Another superb video from Curious Pilot 👏👏👏
How did that metro-liner not completely break in two? Amazing!
Tough Old Bird!
I was in the air during this. Not a fun time, diverted to BJC
No one will believe this but I was in school during the collision and watched it happen. I was standing on the black top of campus middle school a few miles away from the collision. Look at it on Google maps I had a clear line of vision it was unbelievable.
I believe you! Got your money's worth from class that day, eh?
Subbed and liked. Very well researched and presented! Thank you and thank goodness for the no-causalities outcome!
Subbed?
@@audengrumet3985 LOL! Subbed = subscribed.
All I can say is it was a fun day at the airport that day
Don't know how common it is to have different tower frequencies for each runway, but I would rather hear other airplane communications with the tower also.
It helps.
ATC is required to notify the pilots of the other traffic.
It's common at busy airports. Another commenter said this is the busiest Class D airport in the country.
The recreation doesn't show or mention other aircraft, but apparently the pattern was quite busy at the time.
@@sludge8506, ATC did call traffic prior to this accident.
The way that both planes landed safely is just insane. I mean, how could two plain survive a mid air collision
Total fatalities 0
Total injuries 0
Total survivors 3
I watched it happen. Crazy.
Sounds like having a parachute mounted to the plane's frame should be implemented on all models of planes.
At 6:14 there's an aircraft on the grass behind the bushes... seems to be a wild airport with all sorts of misshaps :D
So they was both heading to centennial? So the other plain was going from Englewood? I think I need to go to bed. It's 3 am mountain time 😂.
Single pilot in a metro and landed it safely. Great job!
Typical Cirrus driver.
I have 300+ hours in Cirrus and did my primary training in an SR20. I can tell you this is not a typical Cirrus driver. Yes, there are morons that fly all types of aircraft and this pilot was clearly an idiot! He is lucky no one died! Many Cirrus pilots, like myself, and Cirrus CFI's are incredibly safety-oriented. It is pilots like this one that give us all a bad name!
Yep. A doctor or lawyer with more money than good sense - and an invincibility complex.
I recognize the metroliner in the video, a freeware mod for XPlane 11 designed by the user Starving Pilot. I've flown the Zibo and Levelup 737s which are in a league of their own, but setting those aside, that metroliner is a solid contender for the best freeware aircraft out there.
The Cirrus has quite an impressive top speed for a single engine aircraft. Honestly, I don't know what is impressive for twin engine turboprop commuter planes like this one. So I don't know if 330 KTs is fast or just average. That it didn't explode on impact must speak to a huge amount of luck that no fuel tanks were ruptured, I guess mostly because the cirrus struck fairly high up on the hull, and didn't seem to impact the wing. It's also incredible, if not miraculous that the Fairchild was able to land safely.
Divine intervention. Cowboy Sirrus pilot.
Maybe not a cowboy but clearly not paying attention.
I remember this. It’s still parked on the ramp.
Great video, glad no one was hurt. Also can I just say its nice to see someone using X-Plane! Is this 11 or 12? How did you get yours looking so good!
The only thing that is odd is control not mention traffic with both planes at same altitude and landing nearly at same time. Rather than find out the other is doing bumper cars .
Great video, thanks
I got an ad for Turkish Airlines before this vid.
Great video of a horrific crash . If both aircraft had been advised that there was traffic landing on both runways , it is possible that the collision could have been averted if both aircraft were made aware of other landing traffic . Only speculation on my part .
Over a decade prior there was a midair collision over Boulder, Colorado that involved two planes and a glider (being towed). Only the glider survived since the tow plane pilot was able to release the tow rope moments before the collision happened.
I'm trying to find the relevance of this story.
@@stejer211 It was another mid-air collision also in Colorado. When I saw the video I immediately thought of that incident.
There is nothing that the pilot of the Metroliner could or should have done. He was on a stable approach. The person pretending to be a pilot in the Cirrus flew a downwind too close to the runway, was absurdly fast AND permitted his aircraft to cross the centreline of the parallel runway DESPITE being warned about landing traffic. I hope he lost his license over this as he is a menace to others.
incredible that everyone lived. A Cirrus is simple to fly at 90-100kts in the pattern; I don't know whey he let it get that fast. Also, the two G1000's in the cirrus provide traffic advisory. I'm happy he at least pulled CAPS but he seemed unaware of how to use his fancy avionics and how to trim his fast plane. Yikes.
I'm sorry...planes have PARACHUTES now?!
I see the Metro was operated by Keylime air- It came a whisker away from being Keylime pie.
In case anyone is wondering if you go to KAPA you can see the key lime plane that was involved
Van Nuys airport near Los Angeles has two parallel runways operating on separate frequencies and is a very busy airport. Did the operator of the Cirrus lose his license? He certainly should have!
Those old Metros are incredibly rugged. Built in San Antonio, TX. Sad thing is, that airplane was probably scrapped. When they finally ceased production in 2001, they cut up and scrapped all the tooling used to manufacture them, so no major airframe components can be built for them when substantial repairs are necessary.
Nah its just sitting at the ramp on the east side of APA, Key Lime has like 6 Metros out there in various states of canibalism
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That's the first step towards scrapping. They'll miss the Metros when they're gone. There are some things they do well.
I find the destruction of the tooling to be extremely asinine. Why would they do that?
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Not sure what they were thinking. Maybe to hasten withdrawal from operation.
@@rescue270 have to pay rent on the building that houses the tooling. Destroy the tooling sell the plant