Richard Dawkins on Twitter rows and Islamophobia
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Being politically correct is not the same as being correct.
Same with being politically incorrect.
@@Hirnlego999 I'd agree, being politically incorrect is not incorrect.
@@herringfly Both can be right or wrong. For some being politically incorrect is the correct thing to do too. Politically.
You use idolatry in your profile picture and commit sin
@@thecollinzboy Yes, he worships excessively expensive sports cars and he often drives on the hard shoulder.
Channel4 News in a nutshell: Invite one of the greatest minds alive on your show under the guise of talking about his new book...talk about Twitter & get him to name a Welsh town instead. Facepalm.
+Geraldine Lancaster "greatest minds alive" Really??? ffs
+Callum 2015
Really. What have you offered to society other than dumbing it down? FFS
Alexandros Gortsilas A great mind would be able to explain their beliefs without intentionally trying to piss off people that should be persuaded to become Atheist
Callum 2015
Unless you are a mind reader you can't know his intentions. He said twice he only cares about the truth.
***** Intentional or not, it's not very productive to his own cause
"Islamophobia,a word created by fascists,used by cowards to manipulate morons"
-Christopher Hitchens
I come from a muslim family.
I am an agnostic/atheist.
I absolutely agree with Hitchens on this.
Andrew Cummins*. Not the Hitch
Why is Islamophobia considered a derogatory term? I see nothing wrong with being prejudice against people based on their beliefs. In fact, one can argue, that is the only grounds which can reasonably used to assess others. The fact that any reasonable person in the 21st century can conclude is religions were far and wide created to explain elements of the natural world to bronze age farmers in a simple, easy to follow manner. They are all stunningly and embarrassingly false in every single description they offer of nature. The Quran or Bible or Torah, is quite clearly NOT the word of any so called God and anyone who openly admits to believing otherwise is under a very strong delusion. In a free and civilized society these delusions should be attacked and degraded with logic and questioning at every possible turn.
+MightyMarven Mostly because phobia suggests an irrational, unjustified fear, whereas those who are accused of Islamophobia are quite rational about the matter and can justify their position by citing facts. It's just a way to disregard the arguments against Islam as if they were inspired by gutteral fear and bigotry.
It's a problem when actual Muslim reformers, such as Maajid Nawaz and Ayan Hirsi Ali, are called Islamophobic when they are trying to have a secular discussion about Islam and why it needs honest liberal critique. The word was conned by Islamists to shut down the criticism of Islam so for that reason alone we shouldn't be using this made up term.
Ahmed and his family have played the media like a fiddle.
+Jess Piper LOL
Dobro Doggie not a nice way to write.
Dobro Doggie
I challenge you to take the insides out of a clock and put it inside a case and walk into an airport with this case and start showing people your handiwork. I'll bet that you won't do it.
I'd have to wonder why and I'll bet you could answer why YOU wouldn't do it. You know full well that people might mistake if for a bomb and that you would be subject to serious repercussions at the hands of airport security and the law.
American schools have been the victims of school shootings and it would be prudent for any student to refrain from bringing anything that looked dangerous to a school. Small children have been expelled for forming a pistol with their fingers and pretending to shoot fellow students.
Why would a 14 year old do what this kid did? What did he think it was that he had invented. A new clock? Even after he was told to put it away, he insisted on carrying it to other classes, that had nothing to do with his "science" project and continue to show it off.
I'm not going to say it was a conspiracy but I have to wonder what his motive was. One thing is certain, that project did not deserve a trip to the Whitehouse and it became a media circus only because the media wanted to create that controversy.
Dobro Doggie
Just in case you're wondering, here are some winning high school projects in Canada. Notice the high calibre of science and the depth of the projects.
cwsf.youthscience.ca/sites/default/files/2017_cwsf_awards_en.pdf
Oh yeah, that clock boy was one smart kid. If he's the best the US had to offer in their high school science classes, the US is failing it's students, badly.
Dobro Doggie
You honestly believe that if you walked into an airport and displayed a digital clock inside a case like the one this kid had, you wouldn't have airport security all over you. You're just being intentionally obtuse.
He unscrewed 5 or 6 screws to loosen up the insides of a digital clock and then screwed it back into the insides of enlarged pencil and notebook leather type case. Now that took some read genius. That's not a science project and normally he wouldn't get anymore than a C for his efforts.
You know as well as anyone and don't pretend that you don't that students have been bringing weapons into American schools and killing kids. There have been talks of pipe bombs in Columbine and he made something that resembled a countdown clock for a bomb. Kids are being expelled for pretending to shoot others with their fingers and this kid makes what could be mistaken for a bomb.
I don't know why he did it but I don't really know why Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris killed 13 people and wounded 24 more, either. People get nervous when kids start pretending to have guns and if a kid brings a contraption that might be mistaken for a bomb to school, someone will get upset, rightly or wrongly. It happens all over the US and students are dealt with harshly when they do stupid stunts like that. Klebold and Harris were one 1 year older that this kid. One year....so don't pretend that it's impossible.
I'm not sure what you're rambling on about concerning public and private schools. I showed you this link to show you what kinds of real projects high school kids were doing and they are in a different stratosphere of ability and effort over some kid moving the guts of a clock from one container to another. He was told to put it away and he wouldn't. Why....who knows but he finally got called on it and it was because the teachers felt that it strongly resembled a clock mechanism for a bomb.
It was the media that made a big deal of it and they're as much to blame for this stupidity, actually a lot more, as this kid is. And Obama actually added to the foolishness by pretending that this was an outstanding science project. It was a joke and the projects that I showed that other high school kids did proves it.
He tweeted about Christianity and wasn't cancelled..
Also should people who criticize Europe/North America be considered anti white racist?
"Richard Dawkins talks to Jon Snow about his new book" - no, Richard would have liked to talk about his book, but wasn't given chance to as he was forced to defend innocuous comments he made on Twitter for 5minutes. rubbish.
Dawkins must have a lot of sympathy for Arthur "Two Sheds" Jackson.
Yes this interviewer is awful!
Richard is incredible. Been a fan of him for years, and my appreciation for his way of discourse sprinkled in with his charming sense of humour grows with every year.
We need more rationalists/secularists like him to take us to the next phase of humanity.
@Rebel Shinobi, thanks for the valuable contribution of alternatively capitalising the letters of the last 4 words from my comment. You just made the world a better place.
@@prithviprakash1110nice to meet a fellow Indian atheist , well there are many.
@@sanghavl8589, thanks buddy. Feel the same here.
@@prithviprakash1110
Indian Secularists 😂😂😂
Indian Secularists are the ones who take the lead to cry ISLAMOPHOBIA 😅
Respect to you guys from a Pakistani Atheist. We may not agree on many things (i.e Kashmir) but one: secularism and humanity.
The funny thing is the 14 year old kid was a trouble maker and knew his clock might be deemed suspicious. Richard Dawkin was right about him.
Stfu nobody knows what a 14 yr old kid across the globe at a certain point in time was thinking there is no evidence for anything so his tweet was stupid and he prolly regrets it
Usual tired, unoriginal questions from the journalist; questions he hadn't thought through or even understood enough to follow up on. What an embarrassing and insulting waste of Richard Dawkins' time.
Once again Jon Snow reminds us that he is very far from being brilliant.
What an embarrassing and insulting waste of Richard Dawkins' time. well that's a bit of a coincidence as Richard Dawkins is an embarrassing and insulting waste of time.
@@heighwaysonthewing 😆 😆 😆
Channel 4 news interviews are so dreary these days. It's like their editor has been watching too much Fox TV and can only conceive of arranging to poke their guests with as many provocative questions as they can in desperate hope of starting an argument. Jon Snow couldn't even listen to the answers so keen he was to get onto the next barbed question.
+MrCurry News Flash.. they all do the same thing..
+MrCurry Media is all about ratings. The more flames they can fan, the wider the audience is.
We have had this in Sweden but most often people get outraged when media tries to be like snakes. I have seen on many occasions the live audience whistling and booing.
The Left used to love Richard Dawkins, until he started to criticize Islam...
Why didn't you actually talk a bit about the damn book? Just as he was going to describe it you cut him off! 4:11
+Arsenal...Indeed, John Snow complaining about the very thing that he is...a hyper-sensitive media charaton
Richard is clearly defending truth, while the interviewer is clearly protecting Islam-which has little to do with truth.
Richard Dawkins is a genius and needs to be upheld and praised for his work, not trying to get a rise out of by this anchor.
"Thank God Muslims don't take their book seriously."
As an Afghan who sees the suffering of his people at the hands of foreign entities, said foreign entities and their families would not be at peace if I did not take the Quran and Islam seriously.
But because I do take my religion and the Quran seriously I see the old army veteran neighbour of mine as an ignorant tool who got used rather than someone to vent my anger out on, I see him as a brother in creation whom God also loves, even though he is misguided and lost.
When will the world learn that the "religious" who commit crimes are not religious and in fact the it is the religious who both suffer casualty as well as blame from the bystander crowd of more non religious gits.
I disagree with Dawkins on many things but I'm glad he is not afraid to call muslims out
Ivan Malek
for what? for mostly having having brown skin ? come on, this guy is right about the date and that's about it.
I adore this man !
Dawkins is the type of nigga you'd want to smoke a nice joint with and talk about some deep shit.
You know nothing, Jon Snow
Dangerous Ideas and you have “dangerous ideas”
Islamophobia is such nonsense. PEOPLE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE CRITICAL OF A RELIGION WITHOUT BEING FIRED/OSTRACIZED.
I don't think they talked one word about his new book except for Dawkins saying "I was told I was here to talk about my new book".
They obviously got Richard on under false pretenses. Was this 'Newsnight'?
Very naughty of them. But he still confounded them!
Ever the composed, articulate, truth teller
i'm muslim and i admire dawkins mentality and scientific approach to life concepts
Awesome. Now apply that scientific approach to the claims of your religion.
@@yourdailydoseofreality3219
No that's haram 😂😂😂
@@yourdailydoseofreality3219 Science does not have answers to everything. And I don't know why are atheists so rude to theists. Why can't they have a civilized discussion with theists? They are always mocking, making fun, which to me is an easy and classic cop-out.
Can we address Atheistophobia in the Middle East?
I'm a critic of Islam myself.
I'm also a critic of atheism.
However I don't hate the followers of either system. Criticism does not equal hate. Criticising Islam doesn't make me Islamophobic just like criticising atheism doesn't make me atheophobic.
John 8:31-32 (KJV) - "Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
@Feiner Fug why can't he crictize the atheist belief?
@Feiner Fug I think atheism is "lack" of belief in all relgion and God.
So yeah, you can crictize the idea itself
@Feiner Fug sorry I made a mistake and I corrected myself.
Ahteism is the lack of belief in God and religions.
And yes you can crictize this by proving a specific religion is right.
So yeah it is not impossible to not crictize it
@Feiner Fug yes, I know one religion has it right
So if richard dawkins is an islamophobe that means i am an islamophobe as well. But it happens that i come from a muslim family , does that make sense? Or is the islamophobe accusation just bullcrap to begin with?
this guy is spot on
Politically correct - Nothing is about being correct
Social justice - Nothing is about justice
Critical thinking - Nothing is about thinking
Great interview! I'm very excited to buy Twitter.
Mr.Dawkins is always great .
The kid knew what he was doing.
I take the Quran very seriously and follow it to the word. I don't cause any problems though. Learn about the Quran and you will realize that it doesn't condone mistreating anyone.
A man who thinks so much yet knows so little.
A pseudo-journalist in front of a giant of science and rational thinking! !
I wanted to hear him out.. but the interviewer interrupts and over controls the conversation.
We all know that only one thing matters here.
Which one of them has the best tie?
Dawkins: You know nuthin' Jon Snow
I love the animal ties he always wears
The host is a philistine. One can’t say something profound in 140 characters?
Maybe **you** can’t, Sir.
Dawkins is a journalist
Truly a bad interviewer.
What a wonderful pair of ties!
Dr Richard Dawkins are very sane man in a very insane world. I wonder how Einstein must have felt. Very Very Very Very.......................lonely.
Dude Einstein went crazy about thinking of a concept of god, and believed in something.
Dawkins is God.
Well, he actually exists. Briefly.
New British Pro Wrestling - I’d worship Dawkins over the Biblical God anytime, he has more compassion.
Louise Haley Are you sure? How can you measure the compassion of two personalities you have no personal and intimate relationship with?
A man made god 😊
Hirnlego999
not Briefly enough!
Jon Snow should stick to repeating others and reporting on events, he's not very good at this thinking thing. A judgement of evil can be made from an internal evaluation. That is to say, even as a Christian one can determine that the Bible is evil. That said though, the secular morality is a real thing and far superior to religious morality.
Used to like him. Now I know he's created a new religion and it smells like all religions. New atheists are very mixed up people. Give us non believers a bad name. Now we have to distance ourselves from them and find ourselves a new bloody name cos everybody loves a box
Sarah what are you talking abouttt lol.
Half-baked ambush interview by Jon Snow. Shows how far Channel 4 has fallen :(
Never got to talk about the book
I have one critical issue with Dawkins; he often refers to the evil of the Koran and the Bible, why doesn't he talk about the Thora? Is he too afraid that he would be seen as a anti-semite?
I don't have a problem with Dawkins. His tweet was too small to fully articulate his thoughts; moreover, there was probably insufficient information to fully understand what happened-at the time it was all going on. Let's hope he doesn't stop tweeting. It would be a huge loss of insight into scientific brilliance!
About that Muslim boy: that 14 year's teacher has responsibilities and one of those is to protect pupils when they're in school. Calling the cops on a child pupil would've been a frightening experience for not only that child but also his classmates. Most of us never see the police but we know what happens when the police are called to emergencies. They drive as fast as fucking hell, arrive with guns loaded, shout, threaten and sometimes carry out lethal force. That could've happened to a boy who had simply done his homework. It would be the most extreme case of homework marking I've ever heard of. D on a homework shouldn't mean death! I don't know whether there was history of such threats from the boy or whether he even cares about extremist Islam. All I know is Islam is insufficient reason to suspect a person is carrying a bomb, especially a child...unless he's a genius and police had mountains of accurate data on him. Regardless, that kind of extreme schema could've killed an innocent 14 year old. How long did it take for the teacher to recall he had set his pupil homework? How did he even identify the individual who made the clock? I don't know the whole story but I feel as though it's only going to become a huge embarrassment to the teacher.
Asked to come and talk about his new book and ended up talking about twitter and saying a ridiculous Welsh word. 5 minutes with a fantastic mind and you wasted it Channel 4. What a waste indeed.
Islamaphobia is a non word? A slight browse through social media can be a frightening experience today. I guess antisemitism didn't exist in Europe's media during the first half of the 1900's either. Like a majority of Europeans today Im not religious too but so what. Richard Dawkins is a denier of something very real and truthful about the word Islamaphobia. There is so much poetry philosophy and diversity from the Islamic world that I sometimes feel Dawkins ignores. With all the turmoil across the Arab world and with no clear answer in sight, he plays with an ignorant unwelcoming extreme, a kind of Cultural Cleanser.
This same man who calls the bible and Quran “evil,” has said before “there’s no good or evil.”
Well Quran is really evil...
@@user-hf8zv7qw4l Says a Jew who believes in a cursed Book called Talmud
If you love the truth religion is true why you are anti religion richard dawkins
What I can’t understand it the most is that u like the truth
Channel 4 News: The left-wing version of the Daily Mail.
+Jack Fraser It's worse. I've never purchased a copy of the Daily Mail, but C4 News gets pumped into our homes.
5:25 Isn't that brown guy the person who had that awkward interview with Quentin Tarantino about movie violence?
Yup, and an equally awkward interview with Robert Downey Jr. Additionally, that's the blonde lady famous only for her bad faith interview with Jordan Peterson. It's astounding that Channel 4 seems actively trying to put together an allstar team of terrible journalism.
I am prepared to entertain the idea that Dawkins is not such a nice guy in real life. But if this was the case, does it in any way invalidate his scientific work? Of course not. What about his advocacy of atheism? I guess some may say he is an example of atheist having more lax moral values than religious persons but for me, is arguments on religions are based on scientific and logical thinking and not being a nice guy doesn't make his arguments any less valid. Besides, history if full of geniuses in arts and science who were not very nice people. We don't reject their legacies just because they were a bit antisocial.
No, the difference is that religios prople have arbitrary morals, while a secular approch can define morals based on reason.
Jon Snow annoyed me a lot in this interview......
Channel 4 news and Jon Snow: Made for each other.
Richard Dawkins is #SeekerOfTruth !
Dafuq!? Richard can do whatever he likes. His contributions to the world of biology are such that they can excuse almost any lapse in judgment or diplomacy. As you were people.
Saudi customs of social etiquettes make most of us shrug. And so....
as much as he's getting old as much as he's losing his mind philosophy :/ but its ok
he is still my god :)
I honestly feel like I'm surrounded by idiots , no offense
Oh c'mon. Why do 14 year old kids things anyway ?
He should stick to something he has credibility in and leave the philosophical discourse to academics in philosophy. fucking embarrassment.
me at job interview:
" Ye my weaknesses are:
I love truth too much. I can't lie man. Sry"
he said with a dismal expression
The host's name is "Jon Snow"? lol
the reporter does have the time to discuss the clock issue but he has time to imply Dawkins is bad.
Dawkins is the radio.therapey against dangerous ideoliigies.
How can you be a scientist when you don't believe in the being that created it.
Why does he care about America so much? Never understood!
Truth my friend Dawkins is a spectrum, so your ideas of seeking truth will vary from others truth.
"There's a back story here, and the reader of the latest one hasn't read the back story"
Ironic, this is exactly what he does when he takes Quranic verses out of context. Say what you will, hate me, dislike, but if you're a "lover of truth", you'll take heed.
Despite I don't agree with his ideas or his "beliefs", RD carries himself very well. Never I have sent him taking questions as an insult but rather treat them psychological imperfections of the interviewer n answering them patiently.
He is a true man of science and devoid of any emotions or have an excellent control on them and still being a human and for that I respect him.
It would be an amazing discussing with him because atleast he argues rationally.
Though I'd argue against this, one of the issues that someone mentioned about twitter is that it doesn't give you time to cool down For example, if you're having a bad day:"I fucking hate everything #everythingfuckingsucks #dem_feels"
No, he's not a good diplomat, just a public school cliché.
I just noticed that young Richard Dawkins kinda looks like José Mourinho.
Dawkins that there are 'sincere Christians' who 'do not take the Bible seriously'. I suggest that if you do not take the Bible seriously, then you are not a Christian. How else is Christianity defined, other than through the Bible?
So you believe all that shit in Leviticus?
+pulchralutetia So you accept Catholicism then?
That interviewer wanted to get away from the clock boy topic in a big hurry. I'm sure he didn't want to hear what Dawkins had to say on that. Comical in that it was so obvious.
Just think of the intelligence that creates and sustains all this that we call existence?
"Before you judge others or claim any absolute truth, consider that you can see less than 1% of the electromagnetic spectrum and hear less than 1% of the acoustic spectrum. As you read this, you are traveling at 220 kilometres per second across the galaxy. 90% of the cells in your body carry their own microbial DNA and are not "you". The atoms in your body are 99.9999999999999999% empty space and none of them are the ones you were born with, but they all originated in the belly of a star. Human beings have 46 chromosomes, 2 less than the common potato. The existence of the rainbow depends on the conical photoreceptors in your eyes; to animals without cones, the rainbow does not exist. So you don't just look at a rainbow, you create it. This is pretty amazing, especially considering that all the beautiful colours you see represent less than 1% of the electromagnetic spectrum."
Anonymous
This reporter is all over the shop. Grasping for straws.
Story of biologist and God. Biologist says we don’t need you God, i can prove how we got here without You.
God says ok then where did the universe come from and how did you get here. Biologist says in the beginning there was cosmic dust and then.
God said no, no, no, go get your own cosmic dust.
Nothing cannot come from nothing.
God is uncreated; not bound by space matter and time. No passage of time for Allah. Nothing before God.
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: In the beginning there was Allah, there was nothing before Him (nothing was with Him).
Biologist should stick to their field of expertise which is biology (study of life and living organisms) and not cosmology (study of origin, evolution and fate of the universe).
“Cosmic dust cannot come from nothing but God can” 🤦🏻♂️
Well, that was an abysmal bit of fluff.
Notice, the low grade underhand remark he makes to downplay the boy's technical achievement. Sure there probably was very little creativity in what this boy had done, in fact I would say there was absolutely zero creativity, but there is no need to rubbish this young boy's school project on national TV, just seems a bit mean spirited. That is the problem with the new atheists , the likes of Harris and the late Hitchens. They all use their evidently superior intellect to humiliate genuine and some times simple believers. So while he may not be islamophobic as such , and he does seem to hate all religions, he is very mean spirited and shows no generosity in his dialogues with believers, a trait he seems to share with the other new atheists.
Fuck political correctness.
That interviewer is really awful
Richard Washington
I dont think you love truth nearly as much as you can't handle nuance, Richard
The interviewer is ridiculous.
How can people deny God existence.just look at yourself and all the blessings he gave you. are you blind or what ?
Many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and will deceive many. Mark 13:6. Why is this verse not mentioned by Dawkins, There could have been people who made doctrine or added to Gods word that others do not agree with. It is in the Bible. But Dawkins does not mention that. He is right he is not a good diplomat.
Llanfair what?
What an awful man
Richard Dawkins , you've done a very bad thing by mentioning The Holy Quran as evil. The Holy Quran is word of Almighty Allah, our creator. It is mentioned in the holy Quran chapter 49 verse 13 " O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.". Almighty God has made us into nations and tribes not to despise each other. We are all brothers and sisters.
Don't you have any courtesy ! You should talk or write in a way that donot hurt anyone's religious feelings .
By the way, your neutral view about the boy with the clock was nice.
Still, it promotes evil just as the bible does, therefor it is an evil book. Truth does not care about your feelies.
@@RoninTF2011 Brother, the Holy Quran promotes humanity , it teaches us to be humane , to give charity, to help others. It is mentioned in the Holy Quran that
If anyone kills a person unless in retribution for Murder or for spreading corruption in the land it is as though he kills the all mankind, while if any saves a life it is as if he saves the lives of all mankind [ surah maidah chapter 05 verse 32 ]
People who misunderstand it and some people deliberately call it evil and these people lie about it. Have you read the Holy Quran ? Don't follow others blindly.
Atheism is not the truth , Islam is the truth and it teaches us not to hurt anyone's religious feelings.
Big bang , male/female baby from male sperm - 1905 , Fingerprint - 1880 , human embryo - recently
all the things which have discovered recently , these things have been mentioned in the Holy Quran 1400 years ago.
I request you to watch this video Quran and modern science , so that you can know the truth ( czcams.com/video/cPkDQvmDviQ/video.html )
READ THE VIDEO DESCRIPTION
Hahaha somebody's gonna get fired
Im god