Richard Dawkins in conversation with Penn Jillette at Live Talks LA
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- Richard Dawkins in conversation with Penn Jillette at Live Talks Los Angeles, October 1, 2015, discussing his memoir, "Brief Candle in the Dark: My Life in Science." The talk was held at the Ann and Jerry Moss Theatre at New Roads School. For more information on Live Talks Los Angeles -- upcoming events, videos and podcasts -- visit www.livetalksla.org
I love Richard ❤️. I am so grateful I found him. He ended up saving my life. ❤
Extraordinary! thank you
I am an OR nurse in the NHS in England. I was looking after a patient who was having a procedure done under a local anaesthetic. He had suffered from a bleed on his brain leaving him with a haemorrhagic stroke. The anaesthetist came up to me after and asked “when did I meet god because he gave me such compassion and respect”. I just looked at him and plainly said that I didn’t need any higher being in my life to be a good person. I didn’t need religion to tell me how I should behave towards a fellow human being in need. I didn’t need to pray to be a great nurse. Well this man acted as though I had insulted his Islamic religion and his god. He then thought I was a lost soul despite having “godly” attributes 5 minutes earlier. My daughter is part of the LGBTQ+ community and asked me how she could believe in a god who believed that she was an abomination and deserved to live in hell. She was a smart young 13 year old. I am proud of her everyday that she lives her true life. She’s 17 now. God is a human construct. He is a main character in a story that exists to control the lives of those who do not have the brain power to understand the world around them.
nice :D
Thanks mr Dawkins
Can we fire the sound guy?
And feed the remains to my dog
Sorry, i thought you offered to set him on fire literally
its the feedback from his(dawkins) suit squishing the mic against his breast...
Being set fire to is not the same as burn to ash, do you cook?
*RIP* headphone users.
Damn, Penn's getting old. Crazy how time flies
+LIQUIDSNAKEz28 I think it's more his weight loss that is responsible for his appearance.
Yes, at first I thought it had to be a different person. ..I do think it's the weight loss though. Also, what's up with him having one fingernail painted red? Any ideas?
+Pamela Robinson Penn says,"It means I once shot a man for asking personal questions." When Jillette first began performing, his mother told him to get a manicure because people would be looking at his hands. In response to this, he had all of his nails painted red as a joke. The one remaining red fingernail is in memory of his mother.
+Pamela Robinson He's been doing that for a long time now. Dunno why, though.
His age was hidden beneath layers of fat
My God... What a pleasure to hear these two together!
“God”? According to these two intellectuals there is no such thing. You may as well say, “My Easter Bunny”
yes you can almost hear them sniffing their own farts
@@susanthejew6351 I can sniff your farts and you can sniff mine... We can pretend we are these 2 old farts 😌
@@susanthejew6351better than banging the alter boys
I never tire of listening to Richard Dawkins speaking.
His knowledge, wit and delivery blend in a most satisfying way.
Romans 15:4
For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
Anthony Flew is considered one of the most prominent atheists, so he retracted his atheism and told us that the universe has a deity with modern scientific evidence, not with thought or dreams and feeling, but after science and modern discoveries about the existence of a Creator. He fell into another problem that the Creator wanted according to his mood
He wanted the Creator to be neither speaking nor hearing, and creating creation in vain
But it is logical that this Creator sends a messenger to teach us who he is. And we have to verify the authenticity of the Messenger and what this Messenger calls to?
It transports sperm from the liquid state to the eyes, heart, blood, arteries, and bones. Unconscious nature creates a conscious human being. Then this nature teaches about the importance of the heart and lung, then puts the rib cage, then oxygen, then water, there is sexual desire, and there are the genitals to complete the male and female sexual process. , What coincidence are you talking about, a coincidence that creates the male and the female. All of these are called verses and there are things that complement each other, there is a lung and there is air and there are teeth and stomach and in food and other things and we say that it has no creator!!!
The only question God will ask you is
focus on it
((He said: Did you deny My verses and did not encompass them in knowledge, or what did you do?))
I mean, God Almighty tells you what I told you is a lie and you cannot realize it or understand it
And what in the world have you been doing?
Do you know what your answer is?
((The decree will befall them for what they did wrong, and they will not be able to speak.
If you find yourself in the world without a choice in a great reality we live in, and you go without a choice and a question is the most important
If your destiny is fire, has God wronged you???
Muhammad, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, is a prophet from the Creator, and before him many prophets did not lie or deceive, and he is the only religion that commands you to worship one Creator who created everything.
First of all, you should know that the religion of all prophets is the worship of one Creator who created everything. Islam today is the only religion that commands you to worship one Creator and not idols, illusions, conjecture or a number of gods. But how do we know that the speech is from God and not from Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace? . These are some of the things that comfort your heart and believe that this is a prophet and many of the prophets before him
The Almighty said: (Moreover He comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke)
The smoke confirms that the origin of this universe is inflamed. It is not a lake of water, as was the perception of all philosophies and religions that are based on illusion. This is one of the postulates of modern science today that the sky is condensation of smoke. This fact converted the French scientist Maurice to Islam and wrote a book entitled the Holy Qur’an on the scale of modern science
How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before?
The Almighty says: ((And the heaven We constructed))
The sky is a building, not a vacuum as it was thought, and this was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2017 that proved it
How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before?
The Almighty’s saying: ((And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.
)).
That is, the sky expands with time. This fact, even in the time of Einstein, was not imagined by anyone and it was proven. And Einstein admitted it and admitted that it was the biggest scientific mistake he made in his life if he believed that the sky was fixed. The Qur’an before Einstein says that the sky expands
fact
Almighty’s saying: :((And We have made the night and day two signs, and We erased the sign of the night and made the sign of the day visible that you may seek bounty from your Lord and may know the number of years and the account [of time]. And everything We have set out in detail.
))
The verse of the night is the moon and the verse of the day is the sun. The Qur'an tells that the sun and the moon were fiery masses. That is, the moon was a fiery mass and was erased, and the verse of the day remained visible to the eyes. Was the moon a fiery mass and extinguished? This is one of the biggest scientific issues discovered about the moon. The moon was already a fiery mass, and NASA issued on its official website a conceptual clip entitled The Evolution of the Moon in the video. In fact, the moon was a fiery mass like the sun, and this is what the Qur’an told about and the truth of modern science.
How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before?
Almighty’s saying
And you see the mountains thinking that they are rigid, while you will cross as the passage of clouds. [It is] the work of God who has perfected everything. In fact, he knows what you're doing.))
And the verse clearly spoke of a strange phenomenon, which is that the viewer of the mountains appears to him still, that is, they are still, but in fact they are not like that, rather they are in a state of constant movement. And the infidels of Quraish had previously accused our master Muhammad, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, of madness, and it is likely that their joy was overwhelming when this verse was revealed.
They also found in it, according to their claim, evidence of this madness, and they told the people: How can you believe this man who says that these fixed mountains move like clouds moving in the sky!
And today it is proven that the earth rotates, and with it the mountains, how did Muhammad know that and why is he telling you instead of the matter that makes people consider him crazy? The matter was not from him, but from God.
Almighty’s saying
Those whom Allah (in His plan) willeth to guide,- He openeth their breast to Islam; those whom He willeth to leave straying,- He maketh their breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies: thus doth Allah (heap) the penalty on those who refuse to believe)).
After man was able to reach the sky by flying by modern means of transportation, he knew that the higher up in the air, the less oxygen and atmospheric pressure, which causes severe tightness in the chests and the process of breathing. :
How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before? It was not from him, but from God
Almighty’s saying
Or (the Unbelievers' state) is like the depths of darkness in a vast deep ocean, overwhelmed with billow topped by billow, topped by (dark) clouds: depths of darkness, one above another: if a man stretches out his hands, he can hardly see it! for any to whom Allah giveth not light, there is no light!
Modern sciences have revealed that in the bottom of the deep seas with abundant water - the deep sea - there is great darkness, to the extent that living creatures live in this darkness without visual tools, but live using their other senses such as hearing.
These dark darknesses are not found in the sea water that surrounds the Arabian Peninsula, but rather they have been discovered in the oceans far from it
This verse shows another aspect of the Qur’anic miracle, which is that the sea wave that all people only knew was one wave in the seas.
The verse says there is another wave in the depths of the sea, and divers discovered at the beginning of the twentieth century a fact that was hidden in the depths of the sea, that fact that shows another wave that throws divers into it as it is thrown at swimmers, and this wave was discovered by Scandinavian divers.
I will tell you what the Prophet said. The Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace, said: One day the Bedouins who live in the desert will build tall towers, and this is my duty. Go and see where the
tallest buildings are and who owns them.
God Almighty: ((We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?)
And God informed the Qur’an of this by saying: “Did you think that we created you without a purpose and that you would never return to us?”
All these and other matters that I have not mentioned indicate that this is a prophet from God. More important than that, as I told you, is the only religion that commands you to worship one Creator, who created everything and before him many prophets.
Say, if you wish, there is no god but God, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of God
speak from the heart
2 of my favorite atheists! Just wish Hitch could've been there. Still miss him...
+Gaige Styron Miss who? Dawkins and Jilleette are still alive.
+itsme123669 Hitch.....
+AehS Way to edit your comment to make 100% more sense...
+Andy Smith While I'm a fan of Hitchens' wit and intelligence and the power of his arguments, I do feel uncomfortable about his chosen bedfellows. From Trotsky to George W. Bush in a day does cast some doubt on his integrity, don't you think?
in 2003, it was difficult to come to the conclusion that the iraqi people would be better off under saddam hussein
even now it is an uncomfortable truth
A Man who is honest and sincere.
Here is some honest science!
Cabrera Museum
Dr. Dennis Swift was shown around the museum by Dr Javier Cabrera and he was surprised at what some of the stones depicted. He saw protopeople riding pteranodons. Dr. Cabrera held up a stone of copter [pteranodons with the drawing of a man riding upon it. Some of these pteranodons were stupendously large. Quetzalcoatlus, the largest flying creature known to existed had a gigantic wingspan of fifty-one feet or more, larger than that of many jetfighter airplanes today. Another specimen had a skull and crest that measured five feet nine inches in length. The stones also indicated that the Pre Columbian Indians also had dinosaur ranches. So Marco Polo in China was right when it came to dinosaurs being trained at a young age to pull the Emperor’s chariots. It stands to reason that some of them would have been burden bearers. In history, very often the majority opinion is wrong.
As the tour of the museum was coming to a close, Dr. Cabrera opened up a photo album and he proceeded to show Dr. Dennis Swift photos of dignitaries to whom he had given stones. There was a photo of Dr. Cabrera with the Queen of Spain with an engraved stone so big it had to be hoisted with crane. He gave another to the Queen of Sweden and they stood together with a massive stone. Still a third photo was of him with Shirley MacLaine. Dr. Dennis Swift repeatedly offered Dr. Cabrera money for one of these unique priceless stones, but he insisted that he would not sell them. Dr. Cabrera also gave one to Dr. Dennis Swift’s wife affectionately known as the Queen of Beaverton, with a T.Rex and triceratops engraved on it. It stands to reason that none of these ICA Stones were cheap forgeries made by peasants. Dignitaries only want that which is genuine and they possess the means to verify their authenticity. Forget about your Radio Metric Dating for dinosaurs and rocks, they are not millions of years old. The evidence is absolutely clear they were contemporary with humans not so long ago.
Brilliant! Thanks guys!
I really just wanted this conversation to go on forever
I salute you Richard. I salute your life.
In the beginning (TIME) God created the heavens (SPACE) and the earth (MATTER).
@@williammcknight9867 The abrahamic religions thought that the Earth was unmoving in the center of the universe and the heavens were attached to a firmament (a big dome) on top of the Earth. They had no idea that outer space was even a thing at all and had no idea that the air got thinner with altitude or anything at all really. It's sad that you believe in a primitive creator myth.
@@williammcknight9867 allegedly
It makes a pleasant change to hear two adults having a conversation without once saying "you know" or "like" .
Richards few seconds of facial reaction, just after Penn asked him about Christopher Hitchens, made me tear up. Here was a man who himself said he wasn't quite in CH inner-circle of close friends, yet he appeared for a moment as if he might cry. That, was the sort of emotional connect Hitchens inspired. RIP, dearest Christopher. xx
@@2fast2block Voodoo, from one even less capable. No worries.
@@2fast2block Voodoo poster boy- lol.
You know that his younger brother, Peter Hitchens is a Christian and (horrors of horrors!!) is a Conservative, right??
@@stevenc.robinson1057 so what? What’s your point?
@@snowygalaxyi assume the point is to poke and prod . Arguing is a blast i say ..exclamation point
Thank you Penn and Richard for a most illuminating chat.
This video just alerted all the dogs on my street.
Good Christian doggies
hounds of hell
You must saw your god doing handstands.
Can you provide evidence that the dogs on your street got alerted?
These are by far the best audience questions ive heard in a format of this type.
My mum gave me a copy of The GOD Delusion before she died, she was an atheist all of her adult life and taught me to make up my own mind on religion, she let me go to church when I was old enough to understand what was happening there, I only had to go once to make my mind up, and Richards book is one of my most loved possessions.
This is beautiful 😊
1 time huh maybe it was a church that was Godless there are many
@@Mike-ru5rt Nice reply however, All churches are Godless as is every other thing on earth.
@@Mike-ru5rt Every church is Godless. It's a building like any other.
Your mom sounds cool as hell!!❤
The bit about false memory's is terrifying. It's implications would undoubtedly have, historically, cost people their lives.
WOW! Dawkins answer about having dinner with our human ancestor 'Lucy' blew me away. I have never thought, in doing the 'Who would you like to have dinner with', question, about including an ancestor that far back.
Dawkins - brilliant as ever!
Having dinner with Lucy would be awful! Her table manner would probably be atrocious, but then again maybe she’d just run away once she saw Dawkins and he’d have the whole meal to himself.
The whole premise of the 'Having dinner with anyone in history' works on the idea that the individual will sit and talk about their life and world. It doesn't matter IF the individual actually has developed language, and CAN speak, or would sit and have a meal. It is a FANTASY.
(But, I can see how, in 'real life' it could be as comedic as trying to have dinner with a wild chimp.)
OR - maybe the 'Lucy' he meant was Lucille Ball?
Sim Sim Every human group, community, or country that has that same certain slob percentage.
Professor Dawkins is always an entertaining interview. Penn, in particular, did a fantastic job of handing the professor topics to expound upon and kept the conversation moving in a very pleasing way. Thoroughly enjoyable!
InformationIsTheEdge dead on it was a wonderful conversation I thoroughly enjoyed I’m a proud Atheist Anarchist I enjoy what science has delivered in the form of the Internet and computers we carry in our pockets It is my deepest hope that religion withers and dies ASAP
Perfect interview and format. Penn is great in his courtesy and humility, he’s also super smart and asks great questions. If he hasn’t already, he ought to interview an even bigger giant of thought and communication, Neil DeGrass Tyson.
@@sirvapalot I understand the dictionary definition of anarchist. How do you walk that out, how do you be one? Thanks 🙏
@@2fast2block Are you a wumao troll? Running around calling people losers who don't think like you and your archaic blood sacrifice scapegoating fraud with men taking money in the name of your supposed creator while raping a bunch of kids??? Aw, ok, we are the losers, sure . 😂😂
@@2fast2block Crybaby.calling everyone a loser when he can't even understand that nothing isn't nothing scientifically speaking. Possibilities and probabilities crybaby. The probabilities of old religion from old books having anything to do with the creation of the universe that they don't even understand, very, very, very low. Grow up
Lovely. Professor Dawkins is not only one of the most brilliant but one of the most pleasant people I'm able to name, second only to my darling.
I thought, this will probably be boring, started watching, fully expecting to give up after 15 minutes. Well iv never used this word and i'll probably spell it wrong. Fascinating. Penn has charisma, but Mr Dawkins is on a whole other level. His calm mesured delivery is realy a joy to watch. It just gently nudges my mind open in a strangely calming way. Everything he says seems to fit. Thanks to Penn and Richard. Thanks to all involved in making this available to watch. The algorithm gets a win, it only took about 9 years of recommending dog shit before u gave me something i truly enjoyed. Thanks for making my day better ;)
So nice to see you Richard relaxed and at ease. As said, thank you for being my representative. Well done Penn and Richard.
I really enjoyed this talk. Richard Dawkins is much kinder and personable than he is often portrayed to be.
His reputation for being "strident" is so undeserved. He seems like such a kind man. I have noticed something similar when people find out I am an atheist--their perception of me instantly changes, and they immediately think I must be cynical or meanspirited or something.
That because religion people resent anyone who makes more sense than they do
@@billscannell93 I was once asked, " How can you an atheist , you are such a good human" . It only made sense to me to think that religious people think atheists of some evil creatures lol
There is no God. Boy that is a dumb thing to say.
@@zoeyaya9399 have you seen God?
Thank you LiveTalksLA. Thank you so very much.
Richard goes a long way out of his way to shine a bright light in a world terribly darkened for many centuries by purveyers of grim & dangerous superstitious, divisive, maniacal nonsense.
He really is an absolute joy. His humour is in stark contrast to the lack thereof in those who would attack him or silence him through hatred of those who are not infected with the lunacy of their particular delusion.
Both Richard & Hitch have displayed to all that will listen that you don't have to believe in a fantasy or some supreme being or orders from above to behave morally or decently. And, you don't need to desire eternal life, or be incentified by such an empty promise to practice good conduct.
What a tragedy that so many supposedly inteligent creatures have their fingers perpetually planted in their ears.
Fabulous entertainment.... Most valuable message.... Thanks again.
Yes, isn't it all the more great that we do good and are decent out of sheer will to do so, rather than out of fear of damnation. I think religion was a way to promulgate good ideas (some) for living, a bit like telling children to be good for Santa Claus... but now we are (on the path at least) to becoming grown up as a species we need to leave fairy tales behind.
Now if only we could Dawkins to justify his belief in man made global warming which is also superstitious, divisive, maniacal nonsense.
@@Sigmund1924 Or maybe he's right and you're wrong. If you can imagine a global conspiracy to promote the belief in man-made climate change, you surely can imagine a global conspiracy to deny that.
I love hearing people talking from the heart and and constantly leaning.
@@2fast2block who made god
Penn Gillette is a real gentleman, a very smart and cultured man, a funny guy and a great magician. Nothing but respect for him!
I don't think I need to mention Dawkins, who is obviously a master.
and the sound technician is a dog. What a fucking incompetent.
I could listen to Richard Dawkins for ages, and never go tired.
Jesus is kind enough to allow people to reject Him if they want. If people don't want to adhere to the 1rst Commandment (You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength) Jesus allows free will. He is so accommodating and thoughtful of people's preferences, that He has a very special place for people who won't acknowledge and seek Him. A place where they don't have to see Him or think about Him or deal with Him at all. Pretty generous, wouldn't you say?
@@susiearviso3032 Wow, what a way to put it. I don't reject him, I simply don't think believe that he exists as the Bible puts it. I believe that Jesus did exist, as a regular man who walked around, and did good for others. You know how a story becomes, once it has been told enough times? It never comes out the same way as it started. Someone helps someone cross the street, and the story is told... after a thousand times, that story could easily end up flying across the street, over a mountain, through the sky, waving to God... and so on.
Bible to me, is a fairy tale, probably the most amazing book ever written. Written in times when logical explanations, are viewed more as unexplainable, told so many times before it is eventually written down.
But let us say that God exists. I believe that there is something out there, but that it is something that cannot be explained in human terms. No matter how one spins it, the Bible is still written by human hands, and we all know how the human mind can be made to believe the written word. My belief is, if there is a God, it is the universe itself. Kinda like... if you take a jar, fill it with salt water and some plant stuff, after a certain period of time, you will see things taking place. Life is formed. I view the universe pretty much the same way. Eventually, spores of life, is formed and stuff evolves. And here we are.
Now, I don't mind people believing in the holy scripture, in fact, I think there are many well written bits in it, and if people wish to believe it, that is great. If people find more purpose due to it, hurray I say. To me, the bits in that text, do good by others and so on, is just common sense. I don't need to read and believe in a book, in order to live a full and dignified life. And only way to really know what comes after life, is to experience it. So, if I am wrong when getting to that stage, arrite, I will admit I was wrong. I do not deny that God and Jesus and all that, does not exist, but there is really nothing to prove the opposite. I could just as easily believe we exist in a Matrix ( The Matrix, movie ), where miracles are glitches in the system. You say, pretty generous, wouldn't you say? I don't think so, cause I do not believe that it would be up to Jesus nor God, to give us free will.
So, how can someone who do not believe in God, have purpose in life? Life is purpose in itself. Experience everything around you. Air, nature, animals, fellow human being, just suck it in and let it enrich your life while one still can. No need for a book to tell you how to enjoy and live life. This is me, and you can choose to debate this back and forth, if that is what you want, but I have all in all, very little interest in it. I have no desire to debate my point of view, convince you otherwise. Believe in what you, yourself, wish to believe in.
I have a couple of friends, whom are devoted Christians, and they are awesome people. We have different points of view, but see no need to debate them. We rather find common grounds, and just enjoy life as it is between us.
That should be more than enough.
So, write responses with points of view and so on, if you want, but I doubt I will add anything more to what I have written already.
So, I wish you the best, live life to the fullest as you see fit, and may your life be an extraordinary experience.
And... remember to wash your hands and all that during these times, scary times you know. ;)
Because you believe his religion:)))
@@sergkapitan2578 It is not a religion, it is common sense.
He (I mean Jesus) told you this in person ? I beg he didn’t so your speculation are unfounded . There is little evidence that Jesus existed
Even as a (not very good) Catholic, I find Richard Dawkins very thought provoking and never tire of listening to him speak.
What exactly is a “good catholic”? The very problem with Catholicism and other so called religions is their emphasis on good works as a means of salvation when the gospel is clear that it is not by works but by God’s grace we are saved. Get out of religion and find the true gospel for yourself while you still can. Interesting how Dawkins atheist mate Stephen Hawking had a “Religious Christian” funeral with a “Religious Priest”
Keep listening to him. You’ll drop Catholicism all together; I did.
@@jimabraham8613
Yes ... nothing can drive an atheist to to become Christian (or Catholics too, for that matter).
"Many are called but few are chosen."
The "best" brains of the planet are still "created brains."
Dawkins was absolutely destroyed by Dr John Lennox.
Those who mock God shall not escape punishment.
Laugh all you like, fellows, there is a day of reckoning ahead.
As it was in the days of Noah ...
41:48 is absolutely hilarious. I love how after the applause you could tell he seemed surprised that people were waiting for him to expand on his statement.
you really are the best of us Professor Dawkins!!!! Cheers!
Dear lord, is there any FoH guy at all monitoring it? When your automatic feedback killer doesn't work, suddenly, you need professionals, right? Then hire one and do not skimp on that. Automation is not an answer.
+SquidCaps Proper placement of the lavaliere over the larynx helps.
BlackEpyon The first desk i used had two "tone" dials, bass and treble and 3 mic channels... And speakers on the ceiling above a modified MD421 (i was 11 at the time). Feedback control? Yup, just give me any filter. I had two shelfs and one notch/bandpass in my use. Notch: both tone dials to max, balance with master. Bandpass: both to minimum, balance with master. One hand in the potentiometer/fader and quick reflexes.
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Aw, come on! People already think that atheists are assholes. Lets not give them evidence to support that belief.
The #1 priority is to produce comprehensible audio; as long as everyone understands all the words, we have our first job done. After that comes "does it sound good". If the #1 says, cut off everything above 4k, that is what you will do. After that, you can start searching for better sound. Lavaliers are a pain, especially if they are not handled by professionals. Something the tech can't often do himself.
It is something that the event producer needs to know to put resources in to, like 30 minute of said techs time spent with the stage manager. Which is where this whole thing actually points to, organizers: thinking that you got 30 000 budget and hiring a professional for a day is too much, someone who makes sure the #1 purpose of the whole thing works.. You can easily have 1000$ dinner after that but shitty audio.. Audio is something everyone thinks about when it goes wrong and never when it works.
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Pedal harder, Scotty, lol.
I love this! So enjoyed listening. Never tiring to listen to Dawkins, indeed, but Penn also shines through with wit and insight all his own. What a privilege to be on the same side as these two men, these two intellectual treasures! Thank you. And thank God to be an atheist. :)
What do atheists think about China and Japan, these cultures are atheist without even batting an eye yet there is so much to learn.
"Thank God to be an atheist"! Did you intend that as a joke?
@@moodberry Of course!
two atheists enter a bar, how do we know this?
they tell you in the first 30 seconds.
Dawkins is very wrong and intelligent
@RED PILL PORTAL studying a subject to death, starting off with a determined point of view, and only knowing that subject, is not wisdom
When Dawkins was talking about the concept of time, that spoke volumes! It’s all about perspective!
Those two just crack me up. What an awesome interview/discussion! Love them both! How lucky for that audience.
Romans 15:4
For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
Imagine if Teller had been there as well. Not saying anything at all, just smiling, nodding, and sometimes making "tell me more" gestures.
Anthony Flew is considered one of the most prominent atheists, so he retracted his atheism and told us that the universe has a deity with modern scientific evidence, not with thought or dreams and feeling, but after science and modern discoveries about the existence of a Creator. He fell into another problem that the Creator wanted according to his mood
He wanted the Creator to be neither speaking nor hearing, and creating creation in vain
But it is logical that this Creator sends a messenger to teach us who he is. And we have to verify the authenticity of the Messenger and what this Messenger calls to?
It transports sperm from the liquid state to the eyes, heart, blood, arteries, and bones. Unconscious nature creates a conscious human being. Then this nature teaches about the importance of the heart and lung, then puts the rib cage, then oxygen, then water, there is sexual desire, and there are the genitals to complete the male and female sexual process. , What coincidence are you talking about, a coincidence that creates the male and the female. All of these are called verses and there are things that complement each other, there is a lung and there is air and there are teeth and stomach and in food and other things and we say that it has no creator!!!
The only question God will ask you is
focus on it
((He said: Did you deny My verses and did not encompass them in knowledge, or what did you do?))
I mean, God Almighty tells you what I told you is a lie and you cannot realize it or understand it
And what in the world have you been doing?
Do you know what your answer is?
((The decree will befall them for what they did wrong, and they will not be able to speak.
If you find yourself in the world without a choice in a great reality we live in, and you go without a choice and a question is the most important
If your destiny is fire, has God wronged you???
Muhammad, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, is a prophet from the Creator, and before him many prophets did not lie or deceive, and he is the only religion that commands you to worship one Creator who created everything.
First of all, you should know that the religion of all prophets is the worship of one Creator who created everything. Islam today is the only religion that commands you to worship one Creator and not idols, illusions, conjecture or a number of gods. But how do we know that the speech is from God and not from Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace? . These are some of the things that comfort your heart and believe that this is a prophet and many of the prophets before him
The Almighty said: (Moreover He comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke)
The smoke confirms that the origin of this universe is inflamed. It is not a lake of water, as was the perception of all philosophies and religions that are based on illusion. This is one of the postulates of modern science today that the sky is condensation of smoke. This fact converted the French scientist Maurice to Islam and wrote a book entitled the Holy Qur’an on the scale of modern science
How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before?
The Almighty says: ((And the heaven We constructed))
The sky is a building, not a vacuum as it was thought, and this was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2017 that proved it
How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before?
The Almighty’s saying: ((And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.
)).
That is, the sky expands with time. This fact, even in the time of Einstein, was not imagined by anyone and it was proven. And Einstein admitted it and admitted that it was the biggest scientific mistake he made in his life if he believed that the sky was fixed. The Qur’an before Einstein says that the sky expands
fact
Almighty’s saying: :((And We have made the night and day two signs, and We erased the sign of the night and made the sign of the day visible that you may seek bounty from your Lord and may know the number of years and the account [of time]. And everything We have set out in detail.
))
The verse of the night is the moon and the verse of the day is the sun. The Qur'an tells that the sun and the moon were fiery masses. That is, the moon was a fiery mass and was erased, and the verse of the day remained visible to the eyes. Was the moon a fiery mass and extinguished? This is one of the biggest scientific issues discovered about the moon. The moon was already a fiery mass, and NASA issued on its official website a conceptual clip entitled The Evolution of the Moon in the video. In fact, the moon was a fiery mass like the sun, and this is what the Qur’an told about and the truth of modern science.
How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before?
Almighty’s saying
And you see the mountains thinking that they are rigid, while you will cross as the passage of clouds. [It is] the work of God who has perfected everything. In fact, he knows what you're doing.))
And the verse clearly spoke of a strange phenomenon, which is that the viewer of the mountains appears to him still, that is, they are still, but in fact they are not like that, rather they are in a state of constant movement. And the infidels of Quraish had previously accused our master Muhammad, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, of madness, and it is likely that their joy was overwhelming when this verse was revealed.
They also found in it, according to their claim, evidence of this madness, and they told the people: How can you believe this man who says that these fixed mountains move like clouds moving in the sky!
And today it is proven that the earth rotates, and with it the mountains, how did Muhammad know that and why is he telling you instead of the matter that makes people consider him crazy? The matter was not from him, but from God.
Almighty’s saying
Those whom Allah (in His plan) willeth to guide,- He openeth their breast to Islam; those whom He willeth to leave straying,- He maketh their breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies: thus doth Allah (heap) the penalty on those who refuse to believe)).
After man was able to reach the sky by flying by modern means of transportation, he knew that the higher up in the air, the less oxygen and atmospheric pressure, which causes severe tightness in the chests and the process of breathing. :
How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before? It was not from him, but from God
Almighty’s saying
Or (the Unbelievers' state) is like the depths of darkness in a vast deep ocean, overwhelmed with billow topped by billow, topped by (dark) clouds: depths of darkness, one above another: if a man stretches out his hands, he can hardly see it! for any to whom Allah giveth not light, there is no light!
Modern sciences have revealed that in the bottom of the deep seas with abundant water - the deep sea - there is great darkness, to the extent that living creatures live in this darkness without visual tools, but live using their other senses such as hearing.
These dark darknesses are not found in the sea water that surrounds the Arabian Peninsula, but rather they have been discovered in the oceans far from it
This verse shows another aspect of the Qur’anic miracle, which is that the sea wave that all people only knew was one wave in the seas.
The verse says there is another wave in the depths of the sea, and divers discovered at the beginning of the twentieth century a fact that was hidden in the depths of the sea, that fact that shows another wave that throws divers into it as it is thrown at swimmers, and this wave was discovered by Scandinavian divers.
I will tell you what the Prophet said. The Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace, said: One day the Bedouins who live in the desert will build tall towers, and this is my duty. Go and see where the
tallest buildings are and who owns them.
God Almighty: ((We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?)
And God informed the Qur’an of this by saying: “Did you think that we created you without a purpose and that you would never return to us?”
All these and other matters that I have not mentioned indicate that this is a prophet from God. More important than that, as I told you, is the only religion that commands you to worship one Creator, who created everything and before him many prophets.
Say, if you wish, there is no god but God, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of God
speak from the heart
@@user-rp5ye7uc6d Balls
@@stonemaze9925 Yes, it is very beautiful. Why do you not believe that it has a creator? What is your problem? Why do you make it a coincidence? And a coincidence will not create lungs and oxygen. The coincidence understands that the lung needs oxygen. And you will not understand by chance that the mouth needs teeth to chew food and stomach to digest. What is your problem with the existence of a Creator?
Wooo!
Good to see Richard and Penn together
Absolutely fascinating.
Thanks for the video.
I really like both these guys so I was pleased to find that Penn, who's beliefs I wasn't previously aware of, is of like mind as Richard. An excellent discussion. I really enjoyed it.
Anthony Flew is considered one of the most prominent atheists, so he retracted his atheism and told us that the universe has a deity with modern scientific evidence, not with thought or dreams and feeling, but after science and modern discoveries about the existence of a Creator. He fell into another problem that the Creator wanted according to his mood
He wanted the Creator to be neither speaking nor hearing, and creating creation in vain
But it is logical that this Creator sends a messenger to teach us who he is. And we have to verify the authenticity of the Messenger and what this Messenger calls to?
It transports sperm from the liquid state to the eyes, heart, blood, arteries, and bones. Unconscious nature creates a conscious human being. Then this nature teaches about the importance of the heart and lung, then puts the rib cage, then oxygen, then water, there is sexual desire, and there are the genitals to complete the male and female sexual process. , What coincidence are you talking about, a coincidence that creates the male and the female. All of these are called verses and there are things that complement each other, there is a lung and there is air and there are teeth and stomach and in food and other things and we say that it has no creator!!!
The only question God will ask you is
focus on it
((He said: Did you deny My verses and did not encompass them in knowledge, or what did you do?))
I mean, God Almighty tells you what I told you is a lie and you cannot realize it or understand it
And what in the world have you been doing?
Do you know what your answer is?
((The decree will befall them for what they did wrong, and they will not be able to speak.
If you find yourself in the world without a choice in a great reality we live in, and you go without a choice and a question is the most important
If your destiny is fire, has God wronged you???
Muhammad, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, is a prophet from the Creator, and before him many prophets did not lie or deceive, and he is the only religion that commands you to worship one Creator who created everything.
First of all, you should know that the religion of all prophets is the worship of one Creator who created everything. Islam today is the only religion that commands you to worship one Creator and not idols, illusions, conjecture or a number of gods. But how do we know that the speech is from God and not from Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace? . These are some of the things that comfort your heart and believe that this is a prophet and many of the prophets before him
The Almighty said: (Moreover He comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke)
The smoke confirms that the origin of this universe is inflamed. It is not a lake of water, as was the perception of all philosophies and religions that are based on illusion. This is one of the postulates of modern science today that the sky is condensation of smoke. This fact converted the French scientist Maurice to Islam and wrote a book entitled the Holy Qur’an on the scale of modern science
How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before?
The Almighty says: ((And the heaven We constructed))
The sky is a building, not a vacuum as it was thought, and this was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2017 that proved it
How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before?
The Almighty’s saying: ((And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.
)).
That is, the sky expands with time. This fact, even in the time of Einstein, was not imagined by anyone and it was proven. And Einstein admitted it and admitted that it was the biggest scientific mistake he made in his life if he believed that the sky was fixed. The Qur’an before Einstein says that the sky expands
fact
Almighty’s saying: :((And We have made the night and day two signs, and We erased the sign of the night and made the sign of the day visible that you may seek bounty from your Lord and may know the number of years and the account [of time]. And everything We have set out in detail.
))
The verse of the night is the moon and the verse of the day is the sun. The Qur'an tells that the sun and the moon were fiery masses. That is, the moon was a fiery mass and was erased, and the verse of the day remained visible to the eyes. Was the moon a fiery mass and extinguished? This is one of the biggest scientific issues discovered about the moon. The moon was already a fiery mass, and NASA issued on its official website a conceptual clip entitled The Evolution of the Moon in the video. In fact, the moon was a fiery mass like the sun, and this is what the Qur’an told about and the truth of modern science.
How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before?
Almighty’s saying
And you see the mountains thinking that they are rigid, while you will cross as the passage of clouds. [It is] the work of God who has perfected everything. In fact, he knows what you're doing.))
And the verse clearly spoke of a strange phenomenon, which is that the viewer of the mountains appears to him still, that is, they are still, but in fact they are not like that, rather they are in a state of constant movement. And the infidels of Quraish had previously accused our master Muhammad, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, of madness, and it is likely that their joy was overwhelming when this verse was revealed.
They also found in it, according to their claim, evidence of this madness, and they told the people: How can you believe this man who says that these fixed mountains move like clouds moving in the sky!
And today it is proven that the earth rotates, and with it the mountains, how did Muhammad know that and why is he telling you instead of the matter that makes people consider him crazy? The matter was not from him, but from God.
Almighty’s saying
Those whom Allah (in His plan) willeth to guide,- He openeth their breast to Islam; those whom He willeth to leave straying,- He maketh their breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies: thus doth Allah (heap) the penalty on those who refuse to believe)).
After man was able to reach the sky by flying by modern means of transportation, he knew that the higher up in the air, the less oxygen and atmospheric pressure, which causes severe tightness in the chests and the process of breathing. :
How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before? It was not from him, but from God
Almighty’s saying
Or (the Unbelievers' state) is like the depths of darkness in a vast deep ocean, overwhelmed with billow topped by billow, topped by (dark) clouds: depths of darkness, one above another: if a man stretches out his hands, he can hardly see it! for any to whom Allah giveth not light, there is no light!
Modern sciences have revealed that in the bottom of the deep seas with abundant water - the deep sea - there is great darkness, to the extent that living creatures live in this darkness without visual tools, but live using their other senses such as hearing.
These dark darknesses are not found in the sea water that surrounds the Arabian Peninsula, but rather they have been discovered in the oceans far from it
This verse shows another aspect of the Qur’anic miracle, which is that the sea wave that all people only knew was one wave in the seas.
The verse says there is another wave in the depths of the sea, and divers discovered at the beginning of the twentieth century a fact that was hidden in the depths of the sea, that fact that shows another wave that throws divers into it as it is thrown at swimmers, and this wave was discovered by Scandinavian divers.
I will tell you what the Prophet said. The Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace, said: One day the Bedouins who live in the desert will build tall towers, and this is my duty. Go and see where the
tallest buildings are and who owns them.
God Almighty: ((We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?)
And God informed the Qur’an of this by saying: “Did you think that we created you without a purpose and that you would never return to us?”
All these and other matters that I have not mentioned indicate that this is a prophet from God. More important than that, as I told you, is the only religion that commands you to worship one Creator, who created everything and before him many prophets.
Say, if you wish, there is no god but God, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of God
speak from the heart
@@user-rp5ye7uc6d If you think anybody is reading all that you're wrong as hell
@@jabberwock14 what do you want. To believe in the existence of a Creator. More than turning you from a sperm into a human, what's more?Have you found yourself in this world by choice? Have you made yourself teeth, then made you food, then made you a taste tongue, and a growing stomach? Did you make yourself oxygen and then make yourself a nose and mouth so that the air could reach your lungs and you could breathe? Have you made your hair so that your hair grows differently from your eye hair so you can see the world without being bothered by eye hair? Did you create a heart that pumps blood through the arteries?
Why are you so ungrateful? If I give you a million, you will thank me very much, but if I give you a million for your eyes, you will not accept because your eyes are worth more than a million. Why don't you thank the Creator of your eyes and look for the religion that commands you to thank the Creator who created everything. You will only find one religion that commands you to worship one master, and it is the religion of the prophets and the last of them, Muhammad, may God have mercy on him. Say, if you wish, there is no god but God, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of God
speak from the heart
Just a simple example if you find yourself at a train station. What is the question you will ask yourself? Where is the train going and why am I here? Possible to ask this question on this presence.
Good to see Penn has lost a lot of weight. Not that I cared about his looks, but all that weight couldn't have been good for his health.
I don't care either way. His life.
He said just about the same thing himself in a Big Think video where he talks about how he lost over 100 lbs. He didn't care at all about how he looked, but he decided to make a change because he wanted to live for as long as possible and in as good a health as possible for his kid(s).
@CelestialWoodway If you like him then you should care for roughly the same reason he made a change, that you would want him around for as long as possible.
Get out of here you religious nut!
@robert punu , you go first.
@robert punu , yes. You first. Then come back and tell me all about it but you know, I Do mean dead. Dead for a loooog while. :-)
By the way, one has to believe in existence of the soul to "worry". Those that don't, it means absolutely nothing to them.
Great interview, I just love these two great people.
@@2fast2block I have a question for you, where did god come from?
Just a fascinating interview. Loved it.
Just the best videos. I laugh and i am able, for a brief spell, to leave my lonely little life and join people who think like me. Dawkins and Penn are champions both.
Romans 15:4
For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
@@paulgemme6056 say what?
@@thelifeandtimesofjames4273 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
We’re not alone brother ,just distant. I feel that way myself some times
@@paulgemme6056 uu
What an enjoyable talk!
This really is a phenomenal discussion.
@@2fast2block god I want to marry you.
Revisiting this great interview, thank you.
Every second of this was glorious - so life affirming and optimistic.
Keep talking DUMBASS nobody's listening
@@2fast2block You gave no science just idiot talking points hand picked to serve your retched soul. You are a stain on humanity. No one cares about your constant bull shit. I needed to tell you this because your to slow to see it.
A god would not allow this kind of audio torture
@Cristian Emerson wow, it actually works so well, thanks so much!
Your comment section is full of bots!
Dawkins put on his Dalek voice when talking about Doctor Who
It's not torture if you can leave.
To clarify, I'm talking about the audio quality
What a great interview. A lot of valid points and a couple of laughs along the way
We should all thank James Randi for the term 'woo'woo', as it so wonderfully describes the main subject under dismissal.
Phil Norris
"We should all thank James Randi for the term 'woo'woo', as it so wonderfully describes the main subject under dismissal."
I always thought he was such a wonderful man. Sharp as hell, and a great magician.
Loved this .. thank you.
If there were one man, and one man only, that I could meet and have an hourlong conversation with, it would be Richard Dawkins.
and Keith Richards.
If there were one man and one man only that I could meet and have an hourlong conversation with, it would no doubt be Richard Dawkins
Great video, interesting discussions as always with Dawkins. He is my favourite atheist because he is so well spoken and intellectual and straight forward. An inspiring individual!
Everyone is an atheist.
Do not trust in your own understanding..man's undertanding of things are too limited that it is unwise to risk your one and only soul for something you are not 100 % sure about. You haven't gone to the other side to say with certainty that there is no spiritual realm, that there is no God.
On the other hand, I and many others have seen and experienced God in the spiritual realm. So give it the benefit of the doubt , my friend..for your soul's sake.
@@mikeygarcia8271 What if believing in God sends you to hell?
@@juanausensi499 You don't know what you are missing. All you have to do is seek Him with all your heart...and He will reveal Himself to you. I can assure you with 100 % certainty that He will make Himself known to you should you seek Him with all your heart as He has fulfilled that promise to many of us believers..
He even revealed Himself to those who don't even seek Him...how much more will He not show Himself to you if you ask Him....He will do the same for you , too.
Don't dismiss something as false without studying and delving into God's words and the fulfillment of the promises and prophecies He made..Give it a try..you won't lose anything but will actually gain more than you can ever imagine.
@@mikeygarcia8271 So, if I seek Osiris with all my heart, He will reveal himself to me?
Always great if i find some of Christopher Hitchens friends talk about him...missed today more than ever...
Powerful stuff. Thanks, Penn and Richard.
Romans 15:4
For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
@@paulgemme6056 Thanks, I already know my Scripture pretty well, for a layman and atheist. And I certainly understand the desire for hope. But the existence of the desire does not mean that all hopes can be realized.
_Pie in the sky when you die_ is a hook that's been used by religion since time immemorial, to sell an ideology that has obvious disadvantages, as all ideologies do (including atheistic ones). I assume you're familiar with the status of slavery in the Bible- do you hold slaves? If not, why not?
cheers from sunny Vienna, Scott
@@therealzilch Not all slaves were mistreated. Some slaves were treated so well that when they had their chance for freedom, they chose to stay when the ones who treated them like family.
Peace be with you!
@@paulgemme6056 I have no doubt that some slaves were treated well. That does not change the fact that slavery as an institution is an evil, if anything is evil.
Peace be with you too. Don't keep slaves, even if you treat them well. You can thank the Enlightenment, not the Bible, for that bit of humanity.
@@therealzilch Hi taxes, hi food prices, hi rents, the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer is an evil. Because where sin abounds, evil abounds. Where sin abounds, Grace abounds more for those who except God's Grace and Mercy. That's our only hope. I pray that one day you except it. The power of his Love, Grace, Mercy, Faith, Peace, Joy and so much more.
The real Hitchens quote, "Who the HELL are you????!!!!" XD
+LIQUIDSNAKEz28 followed by "You see what BRAIN ROT descends upon people!"
+Jeremy Viele "If you don't think I am your enemy you don't know an enemy when you see one".
+lewisner Damn, THAT was his best quote, I remember that.
+lewisner "I don't love my enemies. I want to destroy them."
Awesome
I could listen to Dawkins for hours upon hours. He has such a gift for language and explaining.
though quite a stupid one,when he talks about things which he has not understood:)))
@@sergkapitan2578 Such as? He seems to understand your religion about a million times better than you do.
@@MrTheclevercat How do you know that:) Just because you worship his presuppositions?:))) Quite naive:)
@@sergkapitan2578 I know that because you are extremely ignorant. Go worship your primitive creator god and pray for him to make you smarter than a retard. I know prayer doesn't work but maybe you can get a placebo effect!
I could listen to Richard Dawkins for ages, too.
I loved this conversation so much. I wish I could give it 1000 likes. Well done!
@@2fast2block "This all points to a supernatural creation" no it fucking doesn't, lol. What a leap. You realise these laws you are referring to are created by humans for humans to descriptively understand the universe? The only one resorting to science fiction here is you.
@@2fast2block Continue projecting.
@@2fast2block Have you ever tried making sense? I presume not. Resorting to name calling is a nice touch though.
I didn't even know what 'Atheist' meant, till I watched a video with Penn Jillette. I became intrigued and watched more of his videos. I thought I could possibly be Atheist, because I agreed with his points on hypocrisy, etc...then he talked about Richard Dawkins. When I discovered evolution, that was it!! Love seeing a video of these 2 together, because they BOTH had a big part in me finding reason. Later, I watched Cosmos and discovered 'The Big Bang Theory'. So happy to have found truth/science and fascinating truth at that.
That's so amazingly wonderful welcome to the side of reason
Athiesism it truly the only truth
I hope you have a positive journey
So much respect for both of these great men.
their*
You can see, the difference between a god-believer and an atheist just by the sort of language they're using..
Jesus Christ calm down, all I did was make a comment and correct your spelling. Why are you calling me names.
Clearly he got his education online or something, quite pathetic really.
Yup the so called big bang is just a theory (in science) just like gravity, I'm pretty sure gravity is a load of shit too.... >.>
such a polite humorous educated patient man...i've run out of pronouns but no end of praise for his intelligence and courage to stand by his convictions in such a charismatic manner. not to mention his education of so many people i couldn't begin to count
Videos like this make me wish CZcams had a "Love it!" button besides the "Thumbs up". What a wonderful chat. I'm sure I will be returning to listen it quite a few times.
24:35 Headphone wearers, BRACE YOURSELF!
Thank you Kind Sir.
when does it end?
you are the real mvp
Just went through it.. Not so bad.
No headphones, but a decent speaker. I'm 55, and still ough.
I love how honest he is. He's honest about the kindness in his opponents, honest about some of his own shortcomings in critical thinking, honest about how God cannot be disproven, honest when his opponents make great points. Truth matters deeply to this man.
Or proven
Anthony Flew is considered one of the most prominent atheists, so he retracted his atheism and told us that the universe has a deity with modern scientific evidence, not with thought or dreams and feeling, but after science and modern discoveries about the existence of a Creator. He fell into another problem that the Creator wanted according to his mood
He wanted the Creator to be neither speaking nor hearing, and creating creation in vain
But it is logical that this Creator sends a messenger to teach us who he is. And we have to verify the authenticity of the Messenger and what this Messenger calls to?
It transports sperm from the liquid state to the eyes, heart, blood, arteries, and bones. Unconscious nature creates a conscious human being. Then this nature teaches about the importance of the heart and lung, then puts the rib cage, then oxygen, then water, there is sexual desire, and there are the genitals to complete the male and female sexual process. , What coincidence are you talking about, a coincidence that creates the male and the female. All of these are called verses and there are things that complement each other, there is a lung and there is air and there are teeth and stomach and in food and other things and we say that it has no creator!!!
The only question God will ask you is
focus on it
((He said: Did you deny My verses and did not encompass them in knowledge, or what did you do?))
I mean, God Almighty tells you what I told you is a lie and you cannot realize it or understand it
And what in the world have you been doing?
Do you know what your answer is?
((The decree will befall them for what they did wrong, and they will not be able to speak.
If you find yourself in the world without a choice in a great reality we live in, and you go without a choice and a question is the most important
If your destiny is fire, has God wronged you???
Muhammad, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, is a prophet from the Creator, and before him many prophets did not lie or deceive, and he is the only religion that commands you to worship one Creator who created everything.
First of all, you should know that the religion of all prophets is the worship of one Creator who created everything. Islam today is the only religion that commands you to worship one Creator and not idols, illusions, conjecture or a number of gods. But how do we know that the speech is from God and not from Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace? . These are some of the things that comfort your heart and believe that this is a prophet and many of the prophets before him
The Almighty said: (Moreover He comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke)
The smoke confirms that the origin of this universe is inflamed. It is not a lake of water, as was the perception of all philosophies and religions that are based on illusion. This is one of the postulates of modern science today that the sky is condensation of smoke. This fact converted the French scientist Maurice to Islam and wrote a book entitled the Holy Qur’an on the scale of modern science
How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before?
The Almighty says: ((And the heaven We constructed))
The sky is a building, not a vacuum as it was thought, and this was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2017 that proved it
How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before?
The Almighty’s saying: ((And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.
)).
That is, the sky expands with time. This fact, even in the time of Einstein, was not imagined by anyone and it was proven. And Einstein admitted it and admitted that it was the biggest scientific mistake he made in his life if he believed that the sky was fixed. The Qur’an before Einstein says that the sky expands
fact
Almighty’s saying: :((And We have made the night and day two signs, and We erased the sign of the night and made the sign of the day visible that you may seek bounty from your Lord and may know the number of years and the account [of time]. And everything We have set out in detail.
))
The verse of the night is the moon and the verse of the day is the sun. The Qur'an tells that the sun and the moon were fiery masses. That is, the moon was a fiery mass and was erased, and the verse of the day remained visible to the eyes. Was the moon a fiery mass and extinguished? This is one of the biggest scientific issues discovered about the moon. The moon was already a fiery mass, and NASA issued on its official website a conceptual clip entitled The Evolution of the Moon in the video. In fact, the moon was a fiery mass like the sun, and this is what the Qur’an told about and the truth of modern science.
How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before?
Almighty’s saying
And you see the mountains thinking that they are rigid, while you will cross as the passage of clouds. [It is] the work of God who has perfected everything. In fact, he knows what you're doing.))
And the verse clearly spoke of a strange phenomenon, which is that the viewer of the mountains appears to him still, that is, they are still, but in fact they are not like that, rather they are in a state of constant movement. And the infidels of Quraish had previously accused our master Muhammad, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, of madness, and it is likely that their joy was overwhelming when this verse was revealed.
They also found in it, according to their claim, evidence of this madness, and they told the people: How can you believe this man who says that these fixed mountains move like clouds moving in the sky!
And today it is proven that the earth rotates, and with it the mountains, how did Muhammad know that and why is he telling you instead of the matter that makes people consider him crazy? The matter was not from him, but from God.
Almighty’s saying
Those whom Allah (in His plan) willeth to guide,- He openeth their breast to Islam; those whom He willeth to leave straying,- He maketh their breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies: thus doth Allah (heap) the penalty on those who refuse to believe)).
After man was able to reach the sky by flying by modern means of transportation, he knew that the higher up in the air, the less oxygen and atmospheric pressure, which causes severe tightness in the chests and the process of breathing. :
How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before? It was not from him, but from God
Almighty’s saying
Or (the Unbelievers' state) is like the depths of darkness in a vast deep ocean, overwhelmed with billow topped by billow, topped by (dark) clouds: depths of darkness, one above another: if a man stretches out his hands, he can hardly see it! for any to whom Allah giveth not light, there is no light!
Modern sciences have revealed that in the bottom of the deep seas with abundant water - the deep sea - there is great darkness, to the extent that living creatures live in this darkness without visual tools, but live using their other senses such as hearing.
These dark darknesses are not found in the sea water that surrounds the Arabian Peninsula, but rather they have been discovered in the oceans far from it
This verse shows another aspect of the Qur’anic miracle, which is that the sea wave that all people only knew was one wave in the seas.
The verse says there is another wave in the depths of the sea, and divers discovered at the beginning of the twentieth century a fact that was hidden in the depths of the sea, that fact that shows another wave that throws divers into it as it is thrown at swimmers, and this wave was discovered by Scandinavian divers.
I will tell you what the Prophet said. The Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace, said: One day the Bedouins who live in the desert will build tall towers, and this is my duty. Go and see where the
tallest buildings are and who owns them.
God Almighty: ((We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?)
And God informed the Qur’an of this by saying: “Did you think that we created you without a purpose and that you would never return to us?”
All these and other matters that I have not mentioned indicate that this is a prophet from God. More important than that, as I told you, is the only religion that commands you to worship one Creator, who created everything and before him many prophets.
Say, if you wish, there is no god but God, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of God
speak from the heart
One of my favourite video.
Bravo guys!
Tremendous discussion. Thanks to all who put it together.
Yes, yes. Tremendous. 🧐
Excellent. The men (Penn and Dawkins) are public treasures in their own rights. The event is a hopeful example of what we can do when well intentioned and organized.
“What we can do”? What is your goal?
When Dawkins dies will he be given a Christian Funeral presided over by a Christian Priest like his atheist mate Stephen Hawking?
That introduction is priceless 👌 🤣
What a combination Richard and Penn. will enjoy this video many times. CZcams you are the best. SBM.
30:35 False Memory is such a scary concept. How many lives must have been ruined because of it.
+C Chadwick It's actually nothing new in psychology. Old, well known fact. Check it out. Our memory actually doesn't work like "camera recorder" but like a schematic, creative constructor. Cognitive psychology it is to checking out.
lkeaboy Thanks. It's not a new concept to me. I put the time link down so that others may stumble upon it and become more enlightened.
+C Chadwick They didn't even talk about that in the video!
.... :P
+C Chadwick Just understand that the primary purpose of our brain is to interpret the world around us, to formulate hypotheses, and make sense of all of it, to make it predictable so that we can avoid harm coming unto us. As we keep surviving, we reinforce that which we believe, because it's keeping us safe, right? Changing it could be tremendously dangerous, and feels subconsciously pointless because, even at best, we'd achieve the same result. Or so we think.
So the bottom line is that to our brain any belief that doesn't kill us is okay. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. Also, if a belief makes us happy, even better. Usefulness trumps truthfulness when it comes to the brain, unfortunately. And old information trumps new one, even if the new one could be more useful.
Someone said: "Critical thinking is a new phenomenon, and we're not very good at it yet." I think that's true. We are very good at coming up with new reliability information. We are learning how to question the reliability of old misinformation. But we have not yet begun to truly question the reliability of ourselves.
+GuerillaBunny Not sure why you aimed that reply at me. You obviously just want to get yourself heard as you've come to the conclusion that you have a solid hypothesis.
But this isn't binary. It's not just right or wrong. We take into consideration many different factors. This isn't the 'lion in the long grass or just the wind'. We know there could be a lion in the long grass so we go into he wild in an all-terrain vehicle. We keep our windows raised. We ensure the doors are locked. Yes, we know we're alive because we haven't been killed yet, but we are also wary of doing things that may get us killed.
Just because we're here, and we've survived doesn't necessarily mean we think we're doing it right. That takes the intention of others out of the equation as well as blind good luck and coincidence. Many things happen which are out of our control and we accept them and because we can think critically we realise that we may have just had good fortune not that 'I'm doing it right'. If we thought we are right because we are surviving there would be no need for further education. 'I've got this far on what I already know. Why put myself through something I don't need?'
When a person reaches 100 years of age you get all these people asking them what is the secret to living a long life. And you get some bollocks back about loving your children. Going for a walk every day. Having a glass of wine with every meal. Never taking anything anally... but what is hardly ever mentioned is the amount of times they could've been killed by a drunk driver, that they never contracted cholera, and that they were born into a culture where they had plenty of food. And they had the right DNA. Most of what keeps us alive is just good fortune.
'Usefulness trumps truthfulness'? Look, I can see what you're doing, but my original comment was an observation and a time link, not an admission of ignorance. It sounds like what you're trying to do is have your incredible intellect recognised.
Thank you for your time.
I love the wonder that Dawkins inspires.
That's an interesting sentence - wonder, inspires and Hitchins all in one sentence.
@@2fast2block boooooo
@@2fast2block actually I grew up around people like you. I know there's no changing your mind, so I don't bother. Instead, I heckle.
Pen was an excellent interviewer. Outstanding.
Penn
I am always thrilled with his argumentation, and I also love his beautiful Oxford English
Penn is sharp as hell and excellent at articulating himself. Great video.
I used to record him when he was the voice of Comedy Central. His perspectives and viewpoints were always refreshing and enlightening. This is one of the best interviews/discussions with Dawkins I’ve seen. Great to see Penn still at the forefront.
Gillette- sharp as a razor.
Penn is nothing but a loud mouth!!
@@2fast2block You have posted a pulpit speech about "real science" where you abbreviate laws of thermodynamics as 1LT and 2LT, and treat them as evident without proof or argument. The LOTs are mathematical rules whose origin was effort by physicists such as Rudolf Clausius and Max Born to improve efficiency of steam engines. The rules apply to measurable and calculable parameters in energetically isolated physical systems. Scientific application of the LOTs has given deep understanding of what is or is not possible in a wide range of thermodynamic processes; an example is that science declares that a perpetual motion machine would be an impossible violation of LOTs. It strikes me as lamentable and intellectually degrading that you purport to co-opt the LOTs in your dogmatic claim about a "supernatural creator". This imaginary entity is by definition a violator of the LOTs since you cannot say what it did, let alone measure, at some vague "certain point in time" to create matter, space and even time itself. Apart from an ad hominem insult about fools and fiction, your post brings to this thread nothing of science and instead spreads a dishonest veneer of pseudo-science, which is no thing of real science. Indeed nothing comes from nothing and, like a peddler of a perpetual motion machine, you have nothing of evidence for your Creationist claim.
@@2fast2block are you just copy and pasting this in every reply?
I am so proud of Richard. Two intelligent guys on this stage. Food for the mind.
@@2fast2block wumao troll. You must be absolutely MISERABLE to talk the way you do. Sad, hopefully better days ahead.
@@2fast2block you are so hot.
Hitch was a hero of mine. He was utterly brilliant
I respect this two gentleman. When religious people hear something that they cannot digest, they tend to demonize the person that thinks different.
Seems to be an increasingly common thing sadly in political talk too.
They used to kill them.
Just the ignorant ones, Christian’s generally treat even intellectual snobs like Dawkins who are condescending to their beliefs and culture with kindness and open mindedness because they view him as a brother in god and a flawed human being like the rest of us. The one culture that is the low hanging fruit for making fun of is the Christian southern United States, you will never be "canceled " for making fun of them, actually the most Christian culture is the African American culture but I promise you won’t see either one of these cowards say one thing about them . I am proud to be southern, almost every family has lost sons and fathers in combat protecting the rights of these intellectuals who make fun of them, and they do it with pride. I can’t wait for the day when that culture wakes up and turns it’s wrath against the elites
@@bubbaharrod2530 so all of us will just be ignorant and Narcissistic like Trump? No, thanks. I don’t need a all mighty, big brother watching over me.
Yep I agree that BLM and ANTIFA inappropriately demonize conservatives who simply think for themselves instead of buying into false teachings.
What the fuck I swear I remember quite vividly Hitchens saying that. " How dare you! How dare you!! " Does anybody else have that same false memory?
+Nathan Rockwell he did say that
+Nathan Rockwell he said it, but not directed at the person Richard thought initially
+Nathan Rockwell It is when Rabbi Noyberg said you can't have morals without God, in a debate.
+bob Panchantantra I thought the point was it was somebody in the audience who said you can't have morals.
+Nathan Rockwell He says it in a couple of videos.
1:00:08
"Do you believe there's most likely Bacteria living Orgasms on Mars?" 😂😂😂😂
I busted up too.
👍🤣🤣🤣
only if you can find the right spot lol
i almost died hahahahhahaha
The reason why Dawkins and the other two people had the same false memory is because Hitchens' "how dare you!" had a very strong tone. Normally when someone speaks with that tone is when they interrupt someone else, not when they answer the question.
The tone makes the difference. This is why they all had the same memory.
The conversations I overheard my mother having with her friends were vastly more intellectual than the vapid conversations I have with my friends and coworkers now. Briefly in college, I was surrounded by smarter people. But man oh man, the shallowness of conversations in my narrow little world is stunning. I need new friends.
I have more or less the same experience.
Unfortunately most people believe "thinking" will destroy their mental peace. Therefore they don't think. Unfortunately my family including my girlfriend belongs to this group. They are very nice and supportive people but they aren't interesting because they don't think hard.
Gosh, I couldn't live my life without intelligent conversation and fabulous chats with friends with exactly what is discussed here. Please find a kindred spirit who you can divulge your need for good healthy conversation, life really is too short I wish you well
I feel so alone until I read comments such as yours.
I am not alone!
Thank you 🙏🏼💜
@Karma Kat- nice! Thank you - people like you help people like me !!!
""A privilege to be alive now" what a guy!!!!
Nice. Two very intelligent guys having a very intelligent conversation. I don't think I had previously been able to appreciate Dawkins's sense of humour, though.
What stood out for me is the intelligence and precision of Mr. Jillette's questions and comments. It isn't that Mr. Dawkins' responses were inadequate; far from it. But as an interlocutor, Penn Jillette displayed an exceptionally comprehensive and profound understanding of all the issues under discussion.
Yes, he represents the best of us, we very much appreciate Richard Dawkins!
his english accent makes him seem very clever, but if you hear or read Stephen C Meyer you realise how incredible simple he seems
@@Birgeyful LOL nice trolling
@@OSEsean Do you have something to constribute? I can change my mind on things when hearing superior arguments, can you?
There is a fish called the Bue Fish, no change in 360 million years, where is evolution there?
beside, DNA already has the information, it doesnt slowly accumulate information by mutation, mutation rarely lead to positive changes. A wolf has the information for 300 dog kind species, where is evolution there? The information is already there.
why would a plant evolve into the moringa tree that is called the miracle tree, it has 99% of nutrients that exist, why would it not evolve to be hostile to animals in order to survive?
How do you evolve a lung or a brain over time that consist of many many many intrucate parts little by little?
Even one protein has 400 billion combinations and only a handful that works in each situation, if not guided by intelligence, then guided by random chance? its not possible even in 15 billion years, but a human evolved from a badger after the dinos died 65 million years ago, haha... need I go on
@@Birgeyful what you need to do is publish your research debunking evolution and win a Nobel prize 😂😂
@@OSEsean so you dont have a thought of your own, ok
Thank you. In the silly season of electioneering it was great to see and hear something rational.
"love the people, hate their religion" - I have friends of many different faiths and I realize that people are usually a lot better than their religion. (Particularly with the Abrahamic faiths). What puts me off any religion is not how good or bad it's followers behave but in the morality of its teachings - which is why I left the Church.
I'm in awe of the late great Christopher Hitchens, however it's a pity he wasn't pro - choice. I was surprised and disappointed after watching a particular interview where Hitch couldn't give a straight answer when it came to the morality of abortion, particularly as he's famous for always having an answer for everything - with his sharp wit.
Say you have a box with all the components for a sentient robot, but it's completely disassembled & has never booted up or experienced the world. The box of components can't be aware of anything, doesn't know it exists, can't have loved anyone. It's wasteful to throw those components in the recycle bin, but it's not on par with destroying a sentient being.
In a democracy, no one can be forced to lend a part of their body to save the life of another. You can't be forced to donate a kidney or give blood. We can't be forced to lend our uterus to a fetus. This is law.
You have a right to remove a forming baby from your body if you do not want to carry one. That is the end of the story. Pregnancy can happen even when all precautions are taken. That still does not negate your responsibility to do what is right for your body nor does it forfeit your right to control what is allowed in your body and for how long.
Bodily integrity applies to people who are not living off of the body of others.. consider a person who will die without a kidney transplant. Is the person who wont give them one a murderer? No they aren't. No one would consider them to be one. Everyone would understand that it is a tough decision, could lead to serious medical problems, is painful, invasive and could lead to financial ruin. So there are no laws on the books that mandate a viable donor make that sacrifice. Do you want to mandate this for everyone? If you mandate one, then you must mandate the other. If you make one life that needs someone else's body to live - have more rights than the person who would be the donating body... then you open that up to everyone who needs someone else's body to live.
Let's make a law that says you have to be physically joined to some random person who is waiting for a kidney transplant otherwise you'd be guilty of murder. Furthermore you must do so with the caveat that you will be responsible for the transplant operation and all their medical expenses for 18 years afterward. If the person is not willing to do that, then they should STFU.
Me too? I used to be a southern Baptist? Now I also worship Taoism doctrine. . :-)
@@louisehaley5105 Let us not forget, that although many of us revere Hitch, he did change his mind on many issues during his lifetime. But, in the one or two CZcams videos that I remember seeing him talk about this issue, I recall him refusing to take either of the moral absolute positions, and expressing a nuanced rational view, which is not inconsistent with this formulation:
* 1st trimester - Absolute woman's choice, with all medical support for that choice.
* 3rd trimester - A bias (medical default position) to save the baby,
even at a slight risk to the mother, e.g. GA for Caesarian,
even if the baby is unwanted, and will be given-up for adoption.
* 2nd trimester - A gray area, dependent on technology to save the baby,
which has changed in recent decades, and will continue to improve.
In practice, the survival statistics show a very sharp division, so it is not a dilemma of degrees, and medical practice (in the West), provides quite a specific date for achieving a high survival rate (in healthy fetuses of a certain weight).
I think this rational position is roughly aligned with other rationalist non(anti)-religious commentators, such as Sam Harris and Dave Rubin _(Don't Burn This Book)_
On a personal note, I was adopted into a loving family, but I admit that in certain parts of the world, where there is no adoption, and orphanages are non-existent, or perhaps full, impoverished and exploitative, that abortion might be a kinder alternative (e.g. see _Slumdog Millionaire_ ).
Read Nicolas Berdyaev " On the destiny on man" ... You would probably rethink it twice:))) Once I was also strong atheist, but that is very bad position to be if you are really intelligent and ethical person at the same time... If you are not...then that is a different story:)))
Wait, I thought Penn's last name was "and Teller"?!
Teller doesn't speak!
@@jackiewhite4204 He does, but not when in character.
Hitch and Dawkins are two of the greatest minds of our time! Intelligence and beyond.
A great privilege to understand how we came to existence in this very old planet
Actually earth is very young planet in the Galaxy.
Two heroes of mine on the same stage!
This is a total joy, at every level. I'd always thought old Darth Dawkins was something of a stuffed shirt, but he's proved me wrong here. I was not previously aware of Penn's atheist stance. He brings exactly the right tone to the conversation.
hahahahahahahahaahha
@@redpillportal9673 Not enough Lumens 💡
7:42 sounded like he said "viewtube" bless Dawkins wholesome heart xD
24:50 - God damn it, when will humans evolve to ignore that awful high-pitched noise! /s
Joking aside, this was an insightful and cogent conversation between two clearly intelligent chaps.
I think my ears evolved just now, when the cells that pick up on that frequency died.
MF DOOM
I know - terrible sound. At least the truth was still heard. Whew!
I lost everything after I noticed that red nail.
That single red-nail seems silly at first, but it's a way for Penn to remember his mother, who has passed away. Query Google for the back-story, it's quite interesting.
Dawkins is el jefe número uno
How did I know that if Richard Dawkins and Penn Jillette being put together for a conversation. that it would be such a wonderful conversation. and that there would be such a great sense of humor involved. I guess I should have Richard Dawkins being. who was the most intelligent person he had a conversation with. but the fact is Richard Dawkins excused himself from those conversations. when he is the most intelligent person involved in those conversations no doubt. I really enjoyed this conversation with Penn and Richard. something that I noticed myself thinking as I was watching this conversation. was I was thinking go Richard go because he was so on point with everything he said. and was also impressed by Penn in what he said. also when he said Hendrix as a person involved with music.
"Do you think religion serves any useful purpose at all?"
"No."
Penn: DEMONIC SCREECHING LAUGH
I've had the question put to me: "Well what would you replace the morality or values religion teaches with?" I'm so happy to reply that I think schools should include teaching on logic and logical fallacies; law and the underlying concept of law; and the value critical thinking and skepticism. People who are so gullible as to take sheer impossibilities as fact, simply because an old compendium of assembled tales from the desert countries says they happened, are in desperate need of some of that sort of instruction.
Just think if we all respected, valued and loved our fellow man as we're told to do, how much more beautiful, safe and joyful this world would be? As for Christianity, I spent more than a year in Xavier Home for crippled children in the 50s. The selfless and dedicated nuns who cared for me 24/7 were as close to God's angels as one could ever hope to be. But keep on deluding yourself that your gratuitous egocentric life is "doomed" devoid of meaning, hope or destiny, sadly!
@@truthsayer6414
What makes you think that an atheist's life is _egocentric, doomed, devoid of meaning, hope or destiny?_ Do you think that any religion, or even just one, is necessary for someone to be kind, caring, hopeful and altruistic?
So how does strawmaning religion support the need to lead a self centered hedonistic, godless lifestyle?
I feel said for atheists like Dawkins or Sam Harris who can't see the logical absurdity of a worldview in which *mindless mater is the only game in town.* e. g. Determinism Vs Freewill
Or some might call it mind VS brain chemistry. . Typical YT strategies occur all the time, to ignore, delete, mock, or shout down any opposing view.
Marxist socialists typify the vocal left wing loonies who are anti-everything that defines Western culture,: law and order, democracy, reward for effort, religion, justice, free speech, morality etc
Alas, here was I thinking *free speech is the free exchange of ideas.* without threats or intimidation.
I've always regarded Sam Harris as an intelligent guy but u can see how *Atheism poisons everything.* As a true naturalist Sam has to believe he's merely pond goo evolved to a higher order. It "logically" follows that there is no freewill, we're just the product of our brain chemistry. This is a philosophy called "determinism", the logical consequences of such is a self-contradictory, soul-destroying worldview.