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Coalossal, Carkol, and Rolycoly brought both smiles and frowns to Pokemon fans across the globe when they were revealed. Was this Game Freak running out of ideas? Or was it a design just a bit too deep for people to get at first? Let's dig into the design origins of Coalossal!
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Gnoggin, hosted by its creator Lockstin, is a show delving into the mysteries of Pokemon! (and other games sometimes too). Explaining everything there is to explain! Why is each Pokemon given the type it has? What are their origins? What is the lore of the Pokemon world and the design inspirations? And what does it all have to do with alchemy? Let's Go find out!
The coal falling off gigantamax coalossal could also be a reference to a massive landslide made almost entirely of coal in a small town in Wales after the coal storage at the hill, where the coal mine was, got waterlogged. The coal storage had way more coal than the current law limited it to. The landslide hit the school that was next to the hill got hit first and many people got buried alive.
The landslide hit the school first, and many people were buried alive.
Fixed it for you :)
I thought about that at first too, Aberfan
Well that’s sad
@@patrickchoque7720 And it wiped out the vast majority of the school's students.
After the aberfan incident towns in Wales became extremely concerned with the stability of coal tips.
My grandad was actually the head of the local council before he died and he got the community to plant trees around the local coal tip and cover it in soil to stabalise it. So if any of you are wondering, this will hopefully never happen again (considering this was a common solution in other towns as well).
That "stereotyping" pun made me laugh WAY harder than it should have. X'D
At wich moment?
@@somehelluvafanboy8357 End of the video, right before the credits roll
When I become a dad I'm definitely going to use this pun to embarrass my kid(s)
Me too
The only thing i could do was: o my god🤦🏼♂️
Gigantmax Coalossal : 'appears in a battle'
“RUN! IT’S GODZILLA!”
“It looks like Godzilla, but due to international copyright laws, it’s not.”
“STILL, WE SHOULD RUN LIKE IT IS GODZILLA!”
“No it isn’t.”
“AAAAAAHHHHHH!!”
Shut up fake Godzilla this joke is still funny
Gotcha life is cringe because it’s the CZcamsrs fault not the creator’s fault
Ok Boomer
Wall Samuel Malau joke is funny
And you used it too
STOP STEREOTYPING!!!
I actually appreciate that form of humor. Keep doing more of it
The fact that you did enough research to correctly point out that nuclear energy is the cleanest and most reliable sources of energy, deserves respect. Very good analogy with how people fear planes the same way they fear nuclear energy too. You never cease to amaze.
If we just switched to Thorium it'd also be a LOT safer on top of already being so safe. But y'know.... lobbyists.
Oh. I was looking for this JUST Some Guy, and I found him. XD also.. these explanation vids of yours are always cool, Gnoggin. Thanks for brightening up ma day with Poke-facts.
Also : DUDE, you have my sub, both of you.
WHY ARE YOU EVERYWHERE MAN WITH THE JELLAL PROFILE?! WHY?!
He's an enigma and he rates all. I appreciate him for that. XD
Biofuel?
0:53 “That isn’t smoke. It’s steam! Steam from the steamed clams we’re having! MMMM, steamed clams!”
I wasn't expecting that
Don't you mean "hams"? =/
@@XwX1001 obviously you never actually saw the clip.
@@powerofthec5908 Does he, like, say clams before going to the burger place? I dunno, been a while.
Gigantimax Coalossal? At this time of day, at this time of year, entirely localized in your kitchen?
...Can I see?
Fun fact, there is a species of insect (Issus coleoptratus) that doesn’t have “wheels”, but has GEARS as part of its body!
Thanks for the fact
Appreciate that information
It's worth noting, only the nymphs of the Issus Coleoptratus have a gear-like structure on the base of each of their hind legs. The insects shed this gear before moulting into adults.
Source: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issus_coleoptratus
That's a cool fact :)
Thank you!
To clarify, nymphs of planthoppers in general have these structures, this species was just the first one in which the mechanism was fully described.
I think Carkoal and Coalossal could’ve been improved if they kept Roly-coly’s orange eyes
Same with Tyranitar
Same. Eh, at least they're Rock-Fire types as me and many others predicted, I would have been pissed if they were pure Rock types. 😂
I wish they were cyclops'.
Give Coalossal a more train-like head rather than just limiting it to the mouth, and give it four wheels. Bam. Big smokestack thing on top with smoke, fits the Fire-Type... it would have been great!
It's eyes glow with most of it's battle animations. Me and a couple of friend have some cool picture by pausing Coalossal in the pokedex. Whe it's eyes are glowing it looks really menacing and angry.
Stop it. You're scaring me with these Thomas the tank engines.
Does the heart mean you'll stop? :)
It's probably quite the opposite
Thomas:-
"DIESEL 10, DIESEL 10, IM GONNA GET YOU NO MATTER WHAT!!!
DIESEL 10, DIESEL 10, YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN'T @£$&ING HIDE!!!!"
@@soldiergigas14 Oh thanks, you reminded me of that scene in Thomas and the magic railroad where Diesel 10 is chasing a guy and eventually catches him. I always internally screamed to that man: "Just run to the side, you idiot!!!" XD
@@cintronproductions9430 😂🤣🤣😂😂no problemo! 👌
To tell you the truth, my comment was actually from a dream where Thomas becames a raging demon possessed train on a hell bent revenge quest for Diesel 10, killing his fellow steam engines just because they are friends with diesel trains.
Why was the ending so wholesome and pure, like, I was expecting something horrid and instead it was Coallosal's power that saved everyone. I'm actually crying. Why am I crying? Why is this what makes me cry?
Before I watch this, imma say it again, rolycoly is the geodude of this gen. Sentient rock with a three stage evolution and just when you think you know what direction the evolution is going *BAM*
lizard.
Carkoal is actually really cute. It spins its wheels and hides its head into the coal! I thought it was ugly at first too. But having one on my team, and seeing it hide its head in the coal made me love it.
Lockstin, can you talk about Meowth and Perrserker origins and why it’s steel type
Well, they're vikings, and vikings wear steel helmets and stuff. Also they're tough in character and in a literal sense.
Yeah I know that but what was the cause, what was the history behind it made it change it appearance and have a new evolution.
Technically it's the other way around, it would be looking into the origins of how Meowth lost Steel and became Normal, since Galar is said to be the closest to their common ancestor. And that's really just the tale of domestication, although to a lesser extent since some cats still have those instincts
He'll get to them eventually
Well, it's steel type really just because it is. That's Meowth's natural, original type. It hung out with vikings and stuff like that.
A better question, would be why did the other forms of Meowth lose their steel typing?
2:20 "so let's """DIG"""" right on in!"
Oh, don't """"MINED"""" if we do!
1:54 The locomotive seen here is an Ivatt class 2.
Curiously, it never wore this red colour in it's service years, and was only added when it became a museum piece. Before that, she was black.
11:26 These puppies are the creme de la creme: A Castle class and a Duchess class respectively, the highest express power of their British regions. It were these very engines that could only be replaced once the diesel and electric locomotives could reach over 80 miles an hour on a regular basis.
Cthulhu was very explicitly outside good and evil; what he embodies is the unfathomable strangeness of the unknown. That's why he's so interesting!
"Stereo typing"
You're a madman.
The G-Max Coalossal Pokédex entry in Shield also reads like a reference to the coal-fuelled generators in Frostpunk. Almost certainly coincidental, but still really neat.
The thought of coalossal helping warm galar during winter like a gentle giant actually makes me like the pokemon a lot more :) He's secretly warm hearted! Lol
0:50 That's not smoke, it's steam! Steam from the STEAMED HAMS we're having!
It’s a... Circhester expression.
Oh yeah? Because I’m from route 8 and I’ve never heard the term.
Aurora Veil? On this Sunny Day, in this part of the Region, located entirely within your mother's room?
Can I load it in?
Oh, no, they say he's got to go
Go, go, Coalossal
Oh, no, there goes Galar
Go, go, Coalossal
You know, I wasn't too hot on Coalossal (No pun intended.) and its line at first, but it's definitely grown on me over time. It's even become one of my favorite Pokemon! She was a huge asset on my in-game team, and the Coal Kaiju has worked her way into my heart.
I appreciate Coalossal’s design a lot more now that you explained how it ties in with its evolutionary line. At first I thought it was just another rock golem like golem and gigalith, but now I know. Thank you.
Is it just me or is there a lot of kaiju Pokémon especially now?
Butterfree, Charizard and now especially Coalossal.
Warm Lillie Well we already had Pokémon based on Kaiju like Tyranitar, it was only a matter of time before they were given a way to achieve the size of a kaiju.
Dynamaxing basically turns all Pokémon into kaijus so yeah.
Butterfree, Charizard, Tyranitar (a mega might do), Duraludon and Coalassal. (Maybe you could consider Hydreigon as King Ghidorah but he doesn't have a gigantimax form)
Volcarona is literally just pokemon Mothra. It should've gotten a Gmax form, but of course they gave it to butterfree instead because Gamefreak has to beat Gen 1's dick any choice they get.
Even back in Gen 1, there were clear Kaiju inspirations with many of the reptile-like Pokemon like the Rhyhorn line.
Very nice video! Coalossal is my fav gen8 design solely because it's a bipedal monster, but this video makes me appreciate the design even more! I didn't notice the mouth was based on the front of trains or the shoulder spikes being irregular because old trains were like that. Good stuff!
[0:03] "Is there any way to give a pokemon a wheel?" (Mow Rotom Exists) while donphan is based on a "wheel" mow rotom actually has wheels. ...and I think it's the only one so far that has actual wheels. (Rolycoly has a rock "tire" mow rotom has actual tires)
and now we have 2 motorcycle pokemon as legendaries xd
When you realize without the atomic bomb Godzilla wouldn't exist. That's I don't know how to feel about that.
Lockstin in 2020: Much more believable than a train with eyes.
GameFreak in 2020: Oh yeah? We'll see about that.
>Revavroom shows up in Scarlet & Violet
There may also be another reason for Coalossal's kaiju/dinosaur like design. In some coal mines, such as some in Utah, dinosaur fossils and footprints were found inside of coal deposits. These may be a part of the inspiration
1:48 Thank you editor Smoof, I completely agree :)
coalassal is shaped like a friend. Mine is an egg nanny AND formidable in battle
The battle tower theme being played during the sponsorship is probably the closest we'll ever get to having Homestuck on this channel.
Huh. Carkoal is actually my favorite of the three. Interesting to hear a different perspective!
Locks tin: hating on carkoal
Me: Don’t ever go near me or my child ever again
It legit is my favourite of this generation, over its evolution
coalossal is one of my faves from gen 8, also a power house to
I still wish Coalossal had some version of the wheels from its previous forms. It doesn't look bad as it is, it's just if it retained wheels then it would be all the more unique from its various fellow monstrous bipedal Rock types.
The whole Kaiju aspect is really cool which made me think is there any Kaiju that represent the progression,technology and might of mankind
0:49 Its not smoke its STEAM steam from the STEAM PLANTS WE HAVE MMMM STEAM PLANTS
I remember that these Pokémon were the biggest reason for a lot of people to think the 'leaks' were fake. Carkol has a Golem-like face and the model of Coalossal looks like it has Rhyperior's body.
Calling it now: "Murder on the Orient Express", Steel/Ghost type Pokemon
*Mr. Conductor:* Who's that pokemon?...
*Pokedex:* (ping)THOMAS, the Train Engine pokemon!
"Your opinion is wrong"
I agree. At least it isn't literally just a minecart
Adurite Club
Well, at least it isn't a generic rock monster thing that completely looses the things that made its pre evolution have a fun and unique design
Granted, I suppose Carkol not having that cool glowing eye isn't that much better but still
@Adurite Club Oh boy, you should see gen 1 Pokemon.
@Adurite Club I don't dislike Carkol's design personally. I have nothing against pokemon based on objects like minecarts.
One of my favorite new evolution chains from Sword/Shield, glad to see them get their own episode!
13:40 And that was the last anyone ever seen of Luxton, for his puns against humanity he was sentenced to life in the coal mines.
I am so glad I made Coalossal apart of my team, and this video made me love it even more :D
Coalossal is amazing at taking out Gmax Charizard with it Steam Engine ability, I called my Rolycoly "Uny" for its one wheel and its been with me ever since
also ya complain about material becoming pokemon, Voltorb, Klefki, Vanillite, etc. so ya I'm glad we got Coalossal instead of a train
I wasn’t really planning on having one on my team but once I caught my Rolycoly I just fell in love the little guy and he became one of my early heavy hitters and still fills my fire and Rick type niches.
"What are you doing there? Stereotyping."
That was worth the video by itself!
Course I was gonna watch it anyway as that particular line is one of my favorites from Sword and Shield even if it has the issue that so many Rock-types do of being weak to everything.
Carkol just looks like someone grabbed the corner of its eyes and strapped them to the back of its head I love it I named mine Chick Hicks
“Is there anyway to give a Pokémon a wheel”
*Gen 9 Legendaries have entered the chat*
and revavroom family
“Big monster fight big robot go BoOm”
The little kid in me felt that
I still think that the Galar region's interaction with the Rolycoly line along with its industrial revolution is what triggered the adaptation that resulted in the Poison/Fairy-type, Galarian variant of Weezing.
I will forever be proud of the nickname I gave my starting Roly-Coly
My precious boy, Charcoalie ❤
A bit of a missed opportunity that you didn't show a furnace minecart getting powered by a piece of coal instead of the minecart on powered rails
They missed the chance to give frosmoth both a "white colored form" and a "black colored form” for Galar's "industrial revolution".
Pennsylvania was once known for the number of anthracite coal mines. There is still a lot of that coal left, even mountains of milled coal are still in some places. There are few mines here anymore.
That winter of 1963 is what the Dutch call the Winter from Hell. There was an Elfstedentocht (Ice skating marathon between 11 cities in Friesland) but it was the one Elfstedentocht with the harshest conditions ever in the Netherlands. So not just the British were freezing their collective butts off there Gnoggin!
"What are you doing there?"
"Stereo typing...."
LOL
Yeah, I actually laughed out loud at that!
Okay, I forgive the sponsor JUST for the pun at 13:43. TOTALLY worth it!
Was very excited to see this (and that hecking cool thumbnail art)!
I stuck with my coalossal in sword and it's become one of my favourite rock type. I love how asymmetrical they are too.
Pokémon with wheels?
Meanwhile in 2022:
Pokémon Scarlet and Violet
revavroom gatta vroom!
Coalossal is still such a disappointment to me. I was expecting a bad ass locomotive with a glowing orange eye like rolycoly, but no.
alphabet soup I liked the actual thing better
Rolycoly should have Evolved into this. Carkoal was great except for losing the cool eye, but it was on the right track! Well, train tracks.
Then it saw every Gen 1 Rock-Type ever and said “yeah, I wanna be that.” And it abandoned everything that made it great.
I like how it’s origin went from hot coal to cold winter
0:13 a possed car huh..
Gamefreak: WRITE THAT DOWN
It makes me sad that Rolycoly lost both the cute orange cyclops eye, and the cool wheel gimmick just to become Coal Golem.
Should have been a train with Carkoal carts trailing behind it! England LOVES trains!
To be fair, the evolutions don't actually lose the orange eye trait though, Carkoal and Coalossal both still turn their eyes red when they're attacking (look at the motions in the Pokedex), my theory is that since Rolycoly's eye is so close to its heat source due to its small size, the fire in it is always able to reach it. As for Carkoal and Coalossal, the occurence may only happen when they're enraged and the flame inside burns even stronger that it was when they were calm and then reaching their eyes.
So maybe when Rolycoly's life ends, it's eye actually loses that glow, just a thought.
i had the exact same reaction as your cameraman to that pun, i hate how ingenius it was.
I would watch an entire series that is formatted like the beginning of the video tbh
that kinda makes sense why Gordie is a Rock-type gym leader in a snowy city like Circhester, in a roundabout way.
Honestly, my only problem with Coalossal's design is that is yet another golem, like Rhydon, Golem and Gigalith. I still like it a lot, but it kinda takes away the uniqueness from the pre-evos.
Rhydon is just a generic dino/reptile like creature. Golem is a literally turtle like creature made of rocks, that can turn into a ball and roll around, and has a regional variant with a cannon on it's back and a mustache. Gigalith is a 4 legged monster with glowing orange crystals of power perturbing from every angle of it's body.
Tell me how Coalossal, a giant Kaiju-Like monster, made out of literal coal, and also running on coal, with so much history and lore behind it, takes away any uniqueness from previous Pokemon?
EDIT: just some dumb spelling mistakes
How is Rhydon a golem?
Gigalith best golem, change my mind
@@LuckyOwI777 because it's barely a train, instead looking more like a coal-powered Aggron. It's not bad, but they seriously wasted a lot of potential with the whole train motif.
I'm not saying it had to be a 1-to-1 train, I'm just saying it should have at least vaguely resembled a train.
@@ninjapotatolorf6237 ...it was never supposed to be a train, lol. It has slight design inspirations from a train, yes, but it isn't literally a train.
Honestly, a train with eye and a mouth would have looked pretty dumb, imo. Going with a giant Kalju-Like coal powered monster seems a lots cooler than a personified train
EDIT: Also, look at Aggron and Coalossal side by side, and tell me that they look like each other. One is a steel armored, horned best monster thing, while they other is a Kaiju literally made of, and running on coal.
@@LuckyOwI777 A... Aggron is also a kaiju...
Look, I don't hate Coalossal. All I'm saying is that we could have gotten something really unique, but instead we got something that, while definitely inspired by some cool stuff in its own right, is physically very similar to a lot of other Pokemon.
2 things
1) could the darkest day have caused the Pokemon equivalent of Britain's worst winter?
2) when is the hatterene line video coming out?
Coalossal was one of my favorite new Pokemon. I love this thing.
So Japan made Godzilla to spread the message about the dangers of nuclear energy, wonder what pearl harbor has to say about that one
0:53 "that's not smoke, it's steam! Steam from the steamed clams we're having!"
The official art for Carkol looks SO MUCH WORSE than the in-game model. If it weren't for Eiscue, it would definitely be the worst design of the gen. God, I still hate how they went with the Rhydon/Kangaskhan/Aggron route with Coalossal.
An entire flaming MOUNTAIN running at you with the speed of a supercar. Imagine that in a Max Raid.
I always thought that in addition to Godzilla and other Kaiju inspiring Coalossal, It's primitive design would also reference that coal is FOSSILS, plant fossils mostly, but still fossils
Steam Locomotives can have 2 stacks, but they aren't different heights. The differing spike height is probably from the differing stack heights of factories and industrial skylines.
The stereotyping caught me off guard and then my reaction was the same as your crew members
Lol same
Fun Fact 1: Pillbugs are called woodlice in the UK
Fun Fact 2: They are technically crustaceans, not insects.
At 11:45 so was it man-made or natural? They are mutually exclusive.
Coalossal is one Pokémon that can really bring the heat!!!
that stereotyping joke was too funny
*me before the video:* yeah not really a fan of Coalossal....don't know why but it's eh. I mean it's GMax form is DOPE but is eh.
*me after the video:* wow wow wow WOW
Yeah people tend to think coallossal is just worse tyrannitar, but it's has much more tought put into it than just making pokemon godzilla a big rock lizard
That opening bit is extra funny now that we have garganacl, the most Minecraft looking Pokemon
I see since explaining that one of the designers just throwing a wheel one a lump of coal wouldn't sound interesting enough, you had to pull random things to make a section of the video longer than 30 seconds for Rolycoly.
You forgot to include the heat that dynamaxed Coalossal produces.
You mean gigantamax? And why does that matter anyways? He's not stating random facts about the evolutionary line, lol
According to the Pokédex, its flames are low-end 3,600 degrees Fahrenheit.
WHERES MY GUN THE THOMAS'S AREN'T DEAD
Biological Wheels could be a thing, I just can't think of an evolutionary motivation. The wheel would have to be produced like bones or teeth.
Another thing: Coalossal first in bodies the danger of the industrial revolution but then in g-max form becomes s hope for Galar just like how Godzilla went from being the danger of nuclear warfare to being a guardian of Earth.
As to qoute red "When does a monster become a monster? When it becomes a giant methaphor"
We all can agree Gmax corviknight is basically a plane
Talking about different kinds of coal, you forgot to mention clean coal.
I love Carkol. By god, no one’s happier than him to be a coal cart.
Fun fact: Although there are no animals with wheels, there is an animal with a gear mechanism, being a tiny species of planthopper bugs with a gear mechanism in their legs.
Yep. But only the nymphs have them. The gear-like parts disappear when they mature
That ending was quite the 200 IQ humor there.
I know what Pokémon every Minecrafter likes now...
yea its greninja and rayquaza cause im a minecrafter and i should know
Yup! Gothitelle.
Yep! Rattata
Obviously ponyta
1:28 actually elevators are the safest mode of transport, even safer than walking.
I love the Rolycoly line. Rolycoly was my first shiny in Pokemon Shield
You know, when looking at all the giant monsters in history from the latest Godzilla movie to the eight-headed snake in the Epic of Gilgamesh, for some of them, I can see them having been intended as analogies. For most, though, I can see them as really not being allegorical, only being interpreted as allegorical. It is very frustrating.
I'm surprised Game Freak borrowed Capcom's Zorah Magdaros for SWSH.
i adore how nuclear energy, this thing that came about from one of the most deadly weapons to ever be used in open war and one of the most dependable sources of energy we know of, is literally just a steam engine on the most powerful steroids it could get ahold of
its ALOT more than that but if you "boil" it down it is just steam
Brian Persing i know. but i still find it hilarious
@@depressedeboy Badum ching.