Even More Boadicea Speculation: The Case For The Missouri Fox Trotter in Red Dead Redemption 2

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  • @edwarddillanger5922
    @edwarddillanger5922 Před 4 lety +173

    Something else that I haven't heard anyone mention is the fact that the Silver Dapple Pinto is half-way between Dutch's and Hosea's horses in every-way. It's bigger than Dutch's horse yet smaller than Hosea's. And even more intriguing; it's the closest you'll come to getting a horse that is a combination of "The Count" and "Silver Dollar" in terms of its colouration. Hosea has a silver horse, Dutch has a white horse, while Arthur has a horse that is both silver and white. Arthur having owned the SDP really cements him as the symbolic off-spring of Hosea and Dutch.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +31

      that's an excellent point edward, very well said:) thanks for watching, friend!

    • @larryblack5963
      @larryblack5963 Před 4 lety +1

      I like this theory. The only thing is that Hosea’s horse is the same size.

    • @larawilke8990
      @larawilke8990 Před 4 lety

      How the fuck did i just thought about this yesterday,pretty weird

    • @AdamTowafian
      @AdamTowafian Před 2 lety +1

      and fun fact : Micah horse is Missouri Fox Throtter too 👀
      so silver dapple pinto, is combination of Dutch, Hosea, and Micah Horse haha 😅

    • @cherithlakshmi5980
      @cherithlakshmi5980 Před 2 lety +2

      Why is it all little gayish?

  • @lexi2054
    @lexi2054 Před 4 lety +143

    i feel like boadicea would have her own personal coat just like the gang’s horses

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +24

      hi alexis, now i am wondering what that coat would be... personally i would prefer a black or a dark bay or a palomino/buskskin.

    • @Oshidorinohina
      @Oshidorinohina Před 4 lety +8

      @@superantonio Missouri Fox-trotters do come in a large variety of coat colors and SDP wouldn't be out of the question for one even though it was a gypsy vanner SDP who inspired these marking for this particular horse in game. Most common colors for them are black, bay, chestnut, grey, champagne and palomino with pinto variants. He possibly named her after a Celtic queen so Arthur knows some history or was taught by Dutch and Hosea. She could have been nearly any coat color, but I like to imagine her as either black, champagne or, liver chestnut. MFT were not very common back then as the breed was just getting started. Turkoman horses are a bit strange too for a western game as they went extinct around 1800. By 1899 There was no registration for them for nearly 100 years. So she definitly WAS not a Turkoman and very very small chance she was a MFT. Possibly Tennessee Walker/Quarter Horse/Mustang which were the most common horse breeds around that time period that can form strong bonds with their rider.

    • @h1ra3th_
      @h1ra3th_ Před 4 lety +3

      If you watch one of the trailers, you'll notice that Arthur is riding a horse that isn't in the game at all. Nor is it online. It's not the Tennessee Walker, nor is it any of the special/pre order horses.

    • @joshuak8982
      @joshuak8982 Před 3 lety +2

      @@h1ra3th_ Which trailer is it?

    • @tatsuhirosatou5513
      @tatsuhirosatou5513 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Oshidorinohina my money is on a mustang.

  • @Lg-kb7ob
    @Lg-kb7ob Před 4 lety +65

    Nice one. I’m beginning to assume this horse was Boadicea. Maybe there was cut content because she does go really well with the LOE outfit. Blackwater stable Turk>Arabian>MFT. Hosea>Dutch>Arthur. Also symbolic Micah has an MFT because he tries to take Arthur’s place. Also symbolic that it’s supposed to be dead when you help the npc. You’d think they’d just have a common horse for that encounter unless they were saying something. I like to entertain other theories but this is my go to. It could seem too flashy for Arthur but he is really an artist at heart and could probably afford top tier horses before blackwater.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +4

      interesting point about the LOE outfit and you are correct, arthur is an artist at heart. also an artist with a gun, but that's another video...

  • @Lg-kb7ob
    @Lg-kb7ob Před 4 lety +23

    Just noticed something interesting. If you do the Mason missions as John it skips the 3rd one with the SDP. It’s like Johns not allowed to comment on it. This is like 100% closure for me.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +10

      fascinating, i have never done this mission with john so this scenario never even occurred to me.

  • @Barbwiredbonnie6
    @Barbwiredbonnie6 Před 4 lety +48

    Sir! Help me! My horse died! Can you give me a ride?
    *hops on her living dead horse*

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +5

      haha living dead horse (i used to love rob zombie)

  • @whatthefuck9703
    @whatthefuck9703 Před 4 lety +20

    I think Arthur’s boadicea is the special edition thoroughbred , hosea said he reminds the black shire of boadicea , and john’s warhorse from the first game comes with the special edition too and his horse from rdr2 is the same one

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +3

      the reverse dapple black thoroughbred is a fine horse, thanks for watching, friend!

  • @kahlbutomacfarland
    @kahlbutomacfarland Před 4 lety +16

    I’m late to the party, but I’m voting for the DWB as to the breed of Boadicea. I just think it’s fits his personality and place in the gang best.
    Dutch has the Arabian. Beautiful, fast, attracts a crowd but gets ahead of itself and isn’t the best under pressure.
    Hosea has a Turkoman. Strong, steady and wise. Keeps Dutch in check.
    Arthur would a Dutch Warmblood. The muscle of the group. Strong, stubborn, loyal and the best in a fight.
    Just my opinion.

    • @Libbi616
      @Libbi616 Před 2 lety +1

      Couldn't it also be a Hungarian half bred then?

  • @phillyboyy5505
    @phillyboyy5505 Před 4 lety +19

    I know I’m late. But my theory is, Arthur’s horse is the MFT. As it is the only horse he recognizes. He is truly amazed with it. I feel like with hosea having a turkomen and Dutch having a Arabian, it fits best. Also Micah says himself “ya know Morgan we aren’t that different” as Micah has a MFT. Also Micah states that him and Arthur are brothers and they are much alike many times. So I believe that Arthur’s previous horse was in fact a MFT and Baylock was a male and is a bad horse while Boahdicea was a female and a great horse. Showing Arthur and Micah’s Personality. And You can also find baylock bulling other horses around the camp

    • @Whiskeyagogo519
      @Whiskeyagogo519 Před 4 lety +4

      Yes the only horse that can run with a turkomon and and Arabian would be the missouri fox trotter . Speed and stamina

    • @guyschwartz5960
      @guyschwartz5960 Před 3 lety +3

      can you? how and what camp?

    • @Nikodem2008
      @Nikodem2008 Před 2 lety +2

      its actually a liver chestnut hungarian halfbred, it exists in the games files but not in the actual game

    • @karolinaobszarny600
      @karolinaobszarny600 Před 2 lety +2

      Okay Baylock's owner may be horrible but that doesn't mean the horse is horrible too

  • @ragnarokpxn5196
    @ragnarokpxn5196 Před 4 lety +23

    Or maybe it is rare so seeing one was like looking at a exotic car.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +3

      good point, thanks for watching, friend!

  • @Night_Terrors
    @Night_Terrors Před 4 lety +16

    Despite what everyone believes, I decided my Arthur's Boadicea was a Brindle Thoroughbred. It's my favorite coat in the game. I played so many hours with Arthur and made so many of his choices as him that I feel like I should get the choice. Perhaps that's why they made the breed of Boadicea so ambiguous, so that everyone could have their own favorite coat be Arthur's past trusty mount.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +2

      hi trent, i agree they left her ambiguous for this type of discussion. and the brindle is my go-to horse for hunting and missions, thanks for watching, friend!

  • @steven310250
    @steven310250 Před 4 lety +8

    You actually can get the horse in the albert mason quest. It's tedious since you have to track the horse down.

    • @ZeloraYT
      @ZeloraYT Před 2 lety

      I have an easy method for it

  • @Moggster23
    @Moggster23 Před 4 lety +12

    Just to add further speculation to Boadicea's possible breed. After you get the MFT from Moonstone pond, Biscuit is the only horse I've heard Arthur refer to by name when riding in free roam. He doesn't say it often but he does.

    • @danl2136
      @danl2136 Před 4 lety +7

      Funny thing is the woman you take to Emerald Ranch refers to Biscuit as a male, yet the MFT that spawns in the glitch is a female.

    • @Moggster23
      @Moggster23 Před 4 lety

      @@danl2136 it is a bit bizarre that the MFT spawns as a female isn't it.

    • @treywhite4831
      @treywhite4831 Před 4 lety +5

      Wait...... boadecia was a SHE mabye that is why the glitch only spawns females

    • @danl2136
      @danl2136 Před 4 lety

      @@Moggster23 Yes quite bizzare

    • @danl2136
      @danl2136 Před 4 lety +1

      @@treywhite4831 Good point

  • @Bettrdays
    @Bettrdays Před rokem +2

    I managed to grab the Silver dapple pinto during the Albert Mason quest line using tracking (and then throwing myself onto its back) but it took many tries! I think I’ll have to rename her after this video though-Boadicea come again ❤

  • @arvindsrivatsav5916
    @arvindsrivatsav5916 Před 4 lety +3

    i just noticed how the wolf photograph resembles the gang walking into the Braithwaite Manor to rescue Jack.

  • @cerberusgaming3515
    @cerberusgaming3515 Před 4 lety +9

    I'm sure enough boadecia was a female horse.
    Spoiler warning! For those on that haven't finished it yet.
    When you name boadecia to a male horse you will get criticized by the stable owners saying "what kind of a name is that?". But when you name it to a female horse they'll be saying "that's a great name for a horse".
    So my theory rockstar had put in a hint of what Arthur's horse might be. So I'm guessing that boadecia is the same horse and coat as rachel(John's horse in the epilogue).
    Just my opinion.

  • @txferretgirl
    @txferretgirl Před rokem +1

    fun fact, you actually can get the SDF from albert's mission. BUT you need to jump from your horse to it, break it, then ride it to a stable to keep it.

  • @ndndhnsnndndndnd1645
    @ndndhnsnndndndnd1645 Před 3 lety +3

    I wish you can keep the horses natural hair and just change the color because, I like the Missouri Fox Trotter’s natural hair style.

  • @grongaming
    @grongaming Před 4 lety +11

    If you go into setting > player > horse there is a picture of the silver dapple pinto, whereas all the others are of the mahogany bay Tennessee walker

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety

      interesting, i wish i'd known that i would have included footage in the video. thanks for watching, friend!

    • @insrtname8546
      @insrtname8546 Před 4 lety +4

      Its a american standardbred, idiot

    • @haxannn_edits618
      @haxannn_edits618 Před 4 lety

      @@insrtname8546 😂😂😂

  • @r4t4j3
    @r4t4j3 Před 3 měsíci +1

    If you look in the game files, you can spawn Arthur's cut horse that had better stats than any horse (Boadicea). You can see she was a liver Chestnut Hungarian Half-Bred horse.

  • @ainabayanan2423
    @ainabayanan2423 Před 2 lety +2

    Bodecia is a Hungrian Halfbred liver chestnut it's in the game files also you can get it at chapter 3 when you steal the horses

  • @funghoulio26
    @funghoulio26 Před 4 lety +2

    I think it might’ve been a fox trotter because it sort of ties into the idea of Micah being the opposite, maybe they both had fox trotters? Two different coats as the silver dapple pinto is more like a good honour version of baylock

  • @AesirUnlimited
    @AesirUnlimited Před 3 lety +3

    It’s unlikely that Arthur named her. It’s most likely a name chosen by Dutch, considering he’s the most well read member of the gang. It’s possible that she was given as a gift to Arthur by Dutch.

    • @eamonlyons8318
      @eamonlyons8318 Před 2 lety

      Or because arthur Morgan is made of two celtic names, boadicea was a celt

    • @ha1up
      @ha1up Před 2 lety

      It was most likely Hosea

  • @mclg.1193
    @mclg.1193 Před 4 lety +6

    I made the Albert Mason missions with John, and the game skiped this misson, i think this mission is just to show us the how much Arthur likes this horse.
    I definitly believe that Boadicea was a missouri fox.

  • @jackiestoeveken3632
    @jackiestoeveken3632 Před 4 lety +6

    I had somehow got the mft alive at moonstone my second try. I then died by wolves and was quite upset losing her. Then got it second try again.. it was crazy!
    Great video, and thanks for confirming looking into the other horse.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +2

      so glad you got this horse, thanks for watching, friend!

    • @frans-els
      @frans-els Před 4 lety

      Did you just reload your previous save?

    • @jackiestoeveken3632
      @jackiestoeveken3632 Před 4 lety

      @@frans-els I did, though events are random everytime even if you reload the same save, so it was completely random.

  • @bintagleeaterofworlds322
    @bintagleeaterofworlds322 Před 4 lety +4

    This glitch happened to me when i was bringing my perfect elk pelt to the trapper. She asked if I could make some room for her, so I dragged her all the way to emerald ranch.

  • @obscurekyodai
    @obscurekyodai Před 4 lety +5

    One of my favourite horses

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +2

      the dark bay turk is a fine horse that will serve you well:) thanks for watching, friend!

  • @georgetown6065
    @georgetown6065 Před 4 lety +4

    Love your videos! I found Arthur a Silver Dapple MFT at Moonstone Pond, after 5 or 6 tries and named her Boadicea. I have a Sooty Buckskin Dutch Warmblood as my temporary horse. I also have the Silver Mustang, Dark Bay Thoroughbred and Dark Bay Andalusian available for him at stable. I really wish you could collect a few more horses in this game.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +1

      that's a great stable you've assembled, thanks for watching, george!

  • @arashisorceress1048
    @arashisorceress1048 Před 3 lety +1

    I think Arthur’s horse was a special cost of a Missouri Fox Trotter probably a coat even more eye catching.

  • @riccouchman5604
    @riccouchman5604 Před 3 lety +2

    Great video, as are all your other videos. Just one correction though. You can catch the SDP of the Albert Mason photo shoot. For me it was perhaps the crowning achievement in the game. Very difficult wild horse to catch-the most difficult in the game. The key is to track it in deadeye as it id running past Mason and to maintain tracking while talking to him and then picking up its trail again. I tracked it all the way to the Grizzlies East before finally catching it. Do a CZcams check and you will find a video giving more detail on how it is done.

  • @awalleck
    @awalleck Před 3 lety +1

    I can’t help but think when Arthur is talking about the SDP MGT he is talking in a way that he always wanted one. Like he wanted to buy the one in black water. Otherwise he might he told Albert Mason he once had one that he loved named Boadicea. Just my opinion.

  • @csrb338
    @csrb338 Před 3 lety +1

    Just recently started rdr2 Great work superantonio.
    Also my fave quote from your comment section has to be. “Your voice sounds like you’re talking and your parents are sleeping.” Not sure who wrote it but nail, head... anyway good stuff. Keep it up

  • @arthurmorgan7218
    @arthurmorgan7218 Před 4 lety +4

    It had to have been a good horse like Dutch’s because he’s a main gang member and it seems they have supior horses

  • @Only1omer
    @Only1omer Před 3 lety +2

    Now I’m starting to think the reason why you can’t buy SDP as Arthur is because he can’t get over the loss of boadicea so he doesn’t want to buy any other MFT

  • @Ninelgarcia7
    @Ninelgarcia7 Před 4 lety +2

    I think Arthur might have had a silver tail buckskin, because at the tumbleweed stable hoseas horse is there and Javiars is there too. Maybe they all went there to get a horse. I can see it happing, the America standard has the size and the buckskin has the beauty, that’s my take on the theory

    • @Ninelgarcia7
      @Ninelgarcia7 Před 4 lety

      Javier Pedroza it’s a theory I don’t need your input

    • @Ninelgarcia7
      @Ninelgarcia7 Před 4 lety

      Javier Pedroza pretty sad you have to make it like you make this game just accept different opinions

  • @teagueh
    @teagueh Před 4 lety +2

    After giving it some additional thought, I believe that Boadicea was a huge, black and white, Missouri Saddle Mule. It was fast, strong and fearless. Either that, or maybe it was a Zebra.

  • @uyscuti577
    @uyscuti577 Před 4 lety +2

    I have two speculations and that in the first ever trailer of rdr2 you can see that Arthur is riding a yellow horse and it's the final scene,at the video where the gang is riding in great plain with arthur,Dutch, lenny,Micah,Sadie,charles, and Arthur is in the front with a yellow horse and with yellow or Green jacket.And the second speculation is that in the second trailer if you skip to 0.57 in the second video you can see Arthur riding through in valentine with the horse you get in Sadie adlers barn but, this horse has white face and the torso is like that horse.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +2

      excellent point, i didn't even consider the rockstar promos, i'll have to investigate further. thanks for watching, claude!

  • @dr.skulhamr3220
    @dr.skulhamr3220 Před 4 lety +1

    The picture of the wolves makes me think about selling wolf meat at the butcher yesterday. Darn wolves keep volunteering.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +2

      i wish we could eat the wolf hearts & it had a stamina/health bump

  • @shack028
    @shack028 Před 4 lety +6

    there's and dead strawberry roan ardennes with a drunk wagon driver,outside of strawberry and can found outside of rhodes

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +1

      i never knew that horse was an ardennes, thanks for watching, friend!

  • @elrisitas3052
    @elrisitas3052 Před 4 lety +1

    This mystery is bigger than the Gavin's friend mystery

  • @carter2.005
    @carter2.005 Před 4 lety +1

    I believe that the black and white Hungarian Halfbreed you get after returning from Guarma in chapter 5 is Boadicea because in that mission
    you are nearing Arthur’s end he is also reminiscing his life choices like in that final ride plus it’s the only horse available in that mission

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +1

      hi carter i'm going to make a video on this very subject, thanks for watching!

  • @seanmcmanus9575
    @seanmcmanus9575 Před 4 lety +4

    Great video my friend and thanks for the shout out I'm also curious what John's horse was when you go rescue him in the mountains he has his own saddle which looks really cool

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +2

      hi sean you deserve it (the shout out) and yes, i don't remember anything abt that horse except it was frozen and gutted. i will investigate.

  • @marta0929
    @marta0929 Před 4 lety +2

    I used the lasso glitch to get myself the silver fox trotter in chaper 1 before they patched it :D

  • @619KJ
    @619KJ Před 2 dny

    I went with the silver dapple pinto as boadicea. It makes no sense why that albert mason mission isn’t available for John unless it’s something special to Arthur and Arthur also specifically highlights the silver dapple pinto. Imo it fits him

  • @davidallen7316
    @davidallen7316 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Need to look and find early leak photos before rdr2 release it may have been leaked. The official trailer shows Arthur riding a different horse with the gang but i dont think Boadicea because Saddie is ridding with them.

  • @jennifergoldsberry588
    @jennifergoldsberry588 Před 4 lety +2

    I just got her after a little over an hour yesterday. Named her and now protect her with my life. I like to think it's her because Micahs horse is a black MFT. And he became Dutchs basically right hand man. Even though it was originally Arthur. It's nice to think that Arthur had a light colored MFT, the complete opposite of Baylock. Just like how both of the characters are completely different.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +3

      i like the symmetry with micah's MFT, thanks for watching, friend!

  • @Dashx64
    @Dashx64 Před 3 lety +2

    the fact that John doesnt even get this mission for the MFT oooh the plot thickens lol
    if only we got the prologue

  • @dr.skulhamr3220
    @dr.skulhamr3220 Před 4 lety +2

    I would like Arthur's old favorite horse to be a Missouri Fox Trotter. Yes I would. But I don't find it compelling that Arthur knew the breed by name. In truth, I think he actually identified the coat and not the breed. But in any case, nothing says he couldn't name them all, it seems to me. But he does evidently revere the breed and it sounds like he's quite familiar with it.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety

      i don't know why he wouldn't know all the breeds, arthur is a horseman first

  • @elizamorgan86
    @elizamorgan86 Před 4 lety +2

    2:58 That's the sketch of the Tennessee Walker, the first horse at the start of the game.

  • @forrestgump2114
    @forrestgump2114 Před 2 lety

    In fact you can grab the silver dapple pinto from the Albert mason mission by jumping on her from your horse and taking it straight to the stable, then she’s yours, I confirm it is still working in latest update up to 06/13/2022.

  • @Nothing2CHere4U
    @Nothing2CHere4U Před 4 lety +1

    I just found this horse, in the 3rd Chapter. The only reason I recognized it was because I watched a video about glitching this horse in the 2nd chapter the day before.
    There I am, trotting along, and the SDP-MFT is just sitting at the T section from the video.
    I'm not sure how or why, don't care. Arthur and Bodicea ride once more.

  • @Bruh_Wat_Da_Fauq
    @Bruh_Wat_Da_Fauq Před 4 lety +3

    I did that glitch Saturday. I had to save and load the game a couple of times but I got her. Arthur has his beloved Boadicea again

  • @danielyerbme
    @danielyerbme Před 4 lety +2

    I wish there was an all black Missouri foxtrotter or turkoman in the game

  • @Carl_JohnsonGSF
    @Carl_JohnsonGSF Před 3 lety +1

    The MFT we're able to get at Moonstone Pond is problably Boadicea. That lady we help always talks about her horse like is a male, but when we get that same horse, it's a female. When we get that horse, she's tired and hungry, because Arthur always looked up to her, feeding and taking care of her, she problably don't know how take care of herself, and without Arthur's help, she ends up starving to death. I think that at the beggining of the development of the game, Arthur should be able to get Boadicea back, but for some unknown reason, that part of the game was canceled, but she's still in the game, that's problably why we get level 1 bounding with her so quickly, because she recognizes Arthur.

  • @westondickinson5309
    @westondickinson5309 Před 4 lety +2

    It makes since she might be an MFT because of all the coincidental evidence. I just think it'd be cool if there was a little like dlc type story where we see her after aurthurnleaves blaclwater and she goes through a few different owners you can play as. Some nice some mean. And it leads up to that mission where authur sees the MFT and it turns out to be her. Lol just some weird but also bittersweet dlc idea

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +1

      that would make a great DLC and answer a lot of questions

  • @adrijus-ms3qf
    @adrijus-ms3qf Před 2 měsíci +1

    i would say boadicea is the cut half bred chestnut hungairen

  • @MariaCosta-tx4bv
    @MariaCosta-tx4bv Před 3 lety +1

    I feel like if Arthur had a Thoroughbred he would have that black Dapple one. I always liked Arthur on Darker Horses, but it does make sense that it would be the MFT since Micah also has one and the most important gang members have Amazing horses: Dutch the Albino Arabian, Hosea the Silver Turkoman and Micah the Black MFT. The other gang members have more “normal horses” like Nokotas, Appaloosas, Hungarians, Standarbred, etc.

  • @danielyerbme
    @danielyerbme Před 4 lety +2

    Boadicea is definitely a red horse if it’s named after a red headed warrior

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +2

      hi daniel i think you may be right, and i'm working on a video on that subject:)

    • @danielyerbme
      @danielyerbme Před 4 lety +2

      superantonio I’m watching it as I reply x

  • @geomijul
    @geomijul Před 4 lety +2

    Ugh, I would *_kill_* for a Missouri Fox Trotter with a Dark Bay coat.

  • @Oshidorinohina
    @Oshidorinohina Před 4 lety +1

    MFT were not very common back then as the breed was just getting started and wasn't recognized officially until the 1940s. Turkoman horses are a bit strange too for a late term western game as they went extinct around 1800. By 1899 There was no registration for them for nearly 100 years. So she definitly was NOT a Turkoman and very small chance Queen B was a MFT. Most likely she was a Walker/Riding breed like a Tennessee Walker, Standardbred or Saddlebred Which were the most obvious and common horses during that time period. I like to imagine her as a black horse or liver chestnut or possibly Champagne coat.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +1

      interesting, the historical horses in 1899 america didn't even occur to me, that's a great point. thanks for watching, friend!

    • @Oshidorinohina
      @Oshidorinohina Před 4 lety

      @Javier Pedroza It WAS possible that there were a few real Turkoman horses left Like under 10- and for Red Dead's sake - Hosea stole one or it was stolen for him- But the reality is that if there were any purebreds left, they most likely weren't in the US or if they were in the US- the breeder was irresponsible and didn't keep breeding records and sold the horse and did not document anything about the horse/sale/breeding etc. which is really unlikely.

    • @Oshidorinohina
      @Oshidorinohina Před 4 lety

      @Javier Pedroza Hosea is a well read man, and there were drawings and written depictions of the extinct horse breeds as there still is today so it's possible he's just guessing- however, R* just wanted to them to have individual horses as unique as the characters, the rest is speculation.

  • @BlueF053
    @BlueF053 Před 4 lety +1

    Thinking about it she could be MFT as black water sell one and the photo so yea silver dapple can be dark colours

  • @harshlekhwani_71
    @harshlekhwani_71 Před 3 lety +2

    You can get her from albert mason mission its all over youtube i got mine from that trick

  • @k3lo903
    @k3lo903 Před 4 lety +1

    Would be cool if you could get Rockstar to confirm anything on Twitter, or maybe the game director on the game, maybe worth a shot I guess. But cool video, I like the MFT, one of my favorite horses in the game, and a top tier horse. The theory about Bodecia being a MFT is quite nice, either that or it’s a thoroughbred, I hope we know someday

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +1

      an excellent idea, thanks for watching, friend!

  • @yurisha01
    @yurisha01 Před 4 lety +1

    Do you guys think that red dead 3 will be played through the eyes of Mac Callander? He's one of the few gangmembers who dies at the blackwater shooting, we've never seen what he looks like or what happened when the pinkerrons got him. Plus we still need to know what happened before that ferry job. What do you guys think? This is just a thought

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +1

      that's a great idea, he's a completely blank slate to build a game on.

  • @mamasboy9471
    @mamasboy9471 Před 2 lety

    Someone probably already pointed out, but you can tame it. After the mission you chase it down and have to jump on from your horse. I had an issue where I couldnt remount it (probably why you couldn't do so in the video) so I did it a second time and brought it to the stable, saved and loaded in to remount. Way less time than when said you 6 hours to get biscuit at moonstone creek

  • @ange1icism
    @ange1icism Před rokem +1

    Bodicea actually a beautiful red coat horse, I don’t remember who though

  • @LightningSlay45
    @LightningSlay45 Před 4 lety +2

    I found a way to get the piebald tobiano Hungarian halfbread in chapter 2 and I still think boadicea is an American paint or the tiger striped bay mustang

    • @__xim_jadedx__1501
      @__xim_jadedx__1501 Před 4 lety

      How?

    • @LightningSlay45
      @LightningSlay45 Před 4 lety

      How what?

    • @LightningSlay45
      @LightningSlay45 Před 4 lety

      @Louis Cypher I was able to find the Hungarian halfbread by doing something that involves the lasso,and gun and the tiger striped bay mustang is the rare horse out west and Arthur's horse was rare

  • @cristianitsirc6830
    @cristianitsirc6830 Před 3 lety +1

    Boadicea is a Hungarian half bred liver chestnut. Not available in story nor in online. Spawn it with a trainer, you'll see what i mean.

  • @yousifzanganah4137
    @yousifzanganah4137 Před 4 lety

    and the area you can buy the horse arthurs horse dies in blackwater from the ferry job i think and you can buy the horse from the blackwater stable

  • @drewchermak2173
    @drewchermak2173 Před rokem

    Boadicea in my opinion is a thoroughbred horse because thoroughbreds come from England which Sean always calls Arthur “english” or “englishman” thoroughbreds are also known for being racehorses which boadicea was most likely a racehorse the way Arthur talks about her

  • @Wikkid124
    @Wikkid124 Před 2 lety

    You can get the horse from masons misson! After your done talking with him you can track her down and find her up in annseberg took me like 12 attempts but i did get her in about 2 hours!!

  • @amandamurphy8410
    @amandamurphy8410 Před 4 lety +1

    The only thing is that I keep thinking the horse may have had a red mane and tail... I do like all the theories tho. This is a real head scratcher for sure.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety

      hi amanda, i know because boadicea had red hair so it makes sense. thanks for watching, friend!

  • @smugaladdin8372
    @smugaladdin8372 Před 3 lety

    I think Arthur's horse was most likely an MST but I don't think it was the same silver dapple coat we see in game. Arthur recognises the horse but I think he probably had some sort of variation on it. Many gang members have horse coats that can't be seen anywhere else in game besides the tumbleweed stable and I think Arthur just recognised a similar, but not identical coat. I'd like to think his silver dapple had small hints of red, just like taima, hence the name boadicea. I also don't think the horse lived through the Blackwater job. I find it unlikely that Arthur would have fallen off or left his horse in a position that it would run away, or that Arthur would ever ride a horse that would run away in the first place. I think the horse sadly died and Arthur got a ride with another gang member out of Blackwater, maybe Hosea. While it doesn't fully fit in with the top comment of this video saying the silver dapple is a mix between Dutch and Hosea's horses, the small hints of red throughout the horse I have described could represent Arthur himself, rather than the horse being purely Hosea and Dutch. I also think the red would most likely only be on the black/grey parts of the coat as if it were on the white it could look a bit strange.

  • @cherithlakshmi5980
    @cherithlakshmi5980 Před 2 lety +1

    It could be a red MFT that we can’t aces story or online

  • @krisscott6548
    @krisscott6548 Před 4 lety

    I like to think Boadicea was a ruby coated mustang with sass( like the blood bay arabian but a mustang). Mustangs are very loyal and have courage and personality. I have a feeling that Arthur's horse did something brave that saved him back in Black water.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +1

      hi kris, i like the mustangs in this game, so iconic. the grullo was my first favorite:)

  • @lennysummers20
    @lennysummers20 Před 4 lety

    I think she was a black pinto Missouri Fox Trotter with shiny brown highlights in the black almost like Rachel!🤔🤔🤔 I mean in my opinion black pintos are the very beautiful and like you said “ Arthur was inspired by her bravery and beauty to name her Boadicea” also Missouri Fox Trotters one of the most brave if not the bravest breed in the game🤔🤔

  • @CocoSpacey-ev5rw
    @CocoSpacey-ev5rw Před 11 měsíci

    The first time I played this game, Arthur had a champage mft. When it was dyeing in the end, he thanked the horse. When I played it the second time he had a Nokota and he said nothing to the horse. Both horses and Arthur had a level 4 bonding. Just saying.

  • @fatboydan02
    @fatboydan02 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm curious now,twice you've tried mounting the MFT with Albert Mason.Is it possible to interact with either of the other horses? I'm also intrigued by the fact that any of them would continue standing there prancing around...

    • @ghostlady326
      @ghostlady326 Před 4 lety +1

      No, you can't interact with any of those horses

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +1

      yeah the horses will keep freaking out until you leave them alone. it almost seemed like a glitch.

  • @icee5896
    @icee5896 Před rokem

    Im suprised nobody realized that bodecia was a name for a princess I believe who had firey red hair

  • @skymash
    @skymash Před 3 lety +1

    What if bodicea is a mft but looks like the red turkomen from online but a Missouri Fox Trotter imo

  • @atelko7940
    @atelko7940 Před 3 lety

    I think boudicia is a strawberry roan ardennes because Boudicia is a warrior and this ardennes is a redesh color

  • @Woody-fv7uu
    @Woody-fv7uu Před 4 lety +1

    Can you obtain this horse in that mission?

  • @johnmccracken5465
    @johnmccracken5465 Před rokem

    I think she was just an old nag that aurther had a soft spot for because they grew up together. And that it doesn’t really matter because I typically use the gold turkoman named chicken head at the end game scene. And aurther sounds way mor broke up when chicken head dies then when he talked about the other horse in chapter 2.

  • @robertcrabtree6578
    @robertcrabtree6578 Před 4 lety

    I think she's the reverse black dappled thoroughbred. It only makes since as you only get it with thr ultimate edition. While I love my foxtrotters, Rockstar put that horse with that edition for a reason.

  • @paulbeatty9676
    @paulbeatty9676 Před 3 lety +1

    I just got my MFT a week or so ago on my second play through where I'm pretty much parking my butt in chapter 2 for as long as I can. I got her after I did the tracking trick after Albert Mason takes the photo of the horses. I actually prefer this method to the moonstone pond one because it's such a challenge tracking it and finally jumping on the horse. I've named her ghost because of how her tracks sometimes just seemed to vanish while I tracked her. And yes, it shows a high probably that Bodacea was a SDP on account of Arthur's affectionate emphasis on the name and the MFT,once you get it, is always a female and Arthur mentions Bodacea being a 'she'! 😊

    • @toinhat5399
      @toinhat5399 Před 3 lety +1

      I named her "Arcadia"
      Bc i have to reload this "Arcadia for Amateur " mission over and over. It took me about 2 hour to find this beauty

    • @paulbeatty9676
      @paulbeatty9676 Před 3 lety

      @@toinhat5399 haha that's a good name too! Once I tracked her all the way to Elysian Pond and she was in some weird position along the bank between the running water and a cliff side, I couldn't get the 'jump to house prompt.' A little confusion occurred and as soon as I turn around she bolted and I lost the track too. 🙈

  • @Two_Buck
    @Two_Buck Před 3 lety +1

    NOOOO...I finally had the pinto while helping Albert Mason take photos but the game wouldnt let me lasso or mount him. When i returned to talk to Mason the horses were gone....NOOOOOO!!!!! I cant get this horse for the life of me.

  • @thatchishandsome5006
    @thatchishandsome5006 Před 4 lety

    When Arthur is asked what he is looking for in a horse at the stables, he says strong and fast! So I’m thinking that Bodacia could be a race work, Silver dapple pinto FT, Thoroughbred, or the American Standardbred! And I don’t think it’s a war horse or work horse since they aren’t fast!

  • @someguywhoexsits
    @someguywhoexsits Před 4 lety +1

    I think it is the criollo cause in the trailer 2 of red dead redemption 2 in one of the scenes you see a criollo bay frame overo

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +1

      the grullo is a fine horse, thanks for watching, friend!

  • @SilvaJoseMusic
    @SilvaJoseMusic Před 4 lety +2

    Can it still work if I already helped the lady?

    • @skoolrockz1741
      @skoolrockz1741 Před 4 lety +1

      Yup! I already got Biscuit and found her alive again on moonstone pond, good luck!

  • @KalistaMoonwolf
    @KalistaMoonwolf Před 4 lety

    To be fair, "silver dapple pinto" is technically a COLOR, not a breed, so it's possible that Boadicea WAS a SDP, but was NOT a Missouri Fox Trotter. Can you imagine this coat on a Turkoman or an Andalusian? Gorgeous AND brave. I still like the dark bay Turkoman theory the best out of the existing coats, though. Red head, warhorse, AND it's available in Blackwater, which would make sense, if that's where Arthur lost her.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety

      excellent point, and now i pretty much want a silver dapple turkoman...

  • @mikv8
    @mikv8 Před rokem

    You guys speculate too much, I imagine Rockstar having fun reading all this. I remember endless speculations concerning 2001 GTAIII protagonist Claude, like if he really was that same Claude from GTA2 or why is he mute all the time. When finally Rockstar answered that question like 5yrs later (when Claude made his return in San Andreas) the answer was simple that they haven't really much budget to record lines for him.
    This case, I'm pretty sure even Rockstar doesn't know themselves which horse Boadicea really was.

  • @bqualitysnake6549
    @bqualitysnake6549 Před 4 lety

    I was able to get the silver dapple pinto just after completeing the photography mission, you just have to be quick as not to lose her/him.
    I believe the miisoury is a storng contenderwhen it omces to boadicea, though it'd have to be a darker coat as that is mentioned.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +1

      hi jade i agree, a dark MFT sounds about right, thanks for watching!

  • @tatsuhirosatou5513
    @tatsuhirosatou5513 Před 3 lety

    The silver dapple pinto in blackwater is definitely not a lost boadcia as it can spawn in the stable as a male.

  • @darthsol658
    @darthsol658 Před 4 lety

    I don't believe Bodicea was a Missisourie Fox Trotter. I believe she was a mustang.

  • @sorin3623
    @sorin3623 Před 4 lety +1

    check out the conversation between Arthur and the Valentine stable owner

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety

      i will investigate, thanks for watching, friend!

  • @Dtmdeman
    @Dtmdeman Před 4 lety +2

    If Boadicea were alive Arthur would get her back. At least my Arthur would. My first play through,only had the cheap valentine horse and the white Arabian after I found her.(1st time through I didn't go online for help..just muddled through so very poor) And with the saddle time they had, both horses are by far the best in the game that I have ridden and I have the tried the others as john but they don't experience the same stress that Arthur's did so they will not be as solid in my opinion and game play observation. My second time through I missed the MFT bug but if I play again will try to get her via bug and than shoot the bitch that was riding her horse to death where there's plenty of food for horse.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety

      that horse is worth it if you want to invest the time & work the moonstone pond exploit, thanks for watching, dave!

  • @earlycuyler2295
    @earlycuyler2295 Před 2 lety

    Idk if it's supposed to be " Arthurs horse".
    He is VERY clear that his bodecia was female, but in all of my games it seems like the mft in black water TENDS to be male at least 66% of the time.

  • @jeffmarron3887
    @jeffmarron3887 Před 4 lety

    I think Boadicea was a Dutch Warmblood. First DW and Andelusian are the only breeds that none of the gang members ride. second because of the Buell.

  • @explodo5987
    @explodo5987 Před 4 lety

    I don't think Boadicea was the Silver Dapple Pinto. He might have recognised the coat colour, but I don't recall that he mentioned the breed. I've always imagined Boadicea as a darker horse

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +2

      hi jamie these days i'm leaning towards a dark bay MFT or HH, thanks for watching!

  • @ChrisSmith-qo6ui
    @ChrisSmith-qo6ui Před 4 lety +1

    I tried doing that matched a few times to get the silver dappled pinto by moonshine pond and it was always a morgan

    • @jerricho11
      @jerricho11 Před 4 lety +2

      Darn, hope R* hasn't patched the glitch yet. I haven't been able to do it yet.

    • @thewolfkingofla
      @thewolfkingofla Před 4 lety +1

      It's probably a different encounter

  • @borna1119
    @borna1119 Před 4 lety +1

    I think boadicea is an hungarian halfbred! It‘s big, storng and beautiful plus one spawn location is next to Blackwater and John had a hungarian halfbred in RDR1.

    • @superantonio
      @superantonio  Před 4 lety +1

      i like the HHs, and i did not know john had one in RDR1. thanks for watching, friend!

    • @borna1119
      @borna1119 Před 4 lety

      superantonio no problem i love your videos. The "War Horse" is an hungarian halfbred.