Can a true Christian have depression?
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I am a born again Christian suffering from what looks like depression. I do also have suicidal thoughts but my faith in God keeps me from acting on them. This is encouraging; thank you.
Hey just read your comment. How are you feeling right now?
please go see medical help as well.
Shalom My brother you are not true Ps.119:165.
@@rachelm9350 wrong advice .Have you read the psalms exodus 16:26.
@@alvinford6522 what's wrong with medical help????
My dad was a Christian scholar and an extremely strong believer but he had severe depression. Don't let people tell you you're doing something wrong with your faith just because you have mental illness.
Wise commenting.
Absolutely right it's an illness with a lot of people and no one who has never experience with this shouldn't make an assumption or opinion
It's a demon people. Cast it out!!!!
@@travishowett7651 if by demon you mean neurotransmitter issues exacerbated by trauma you are correct.
@@lsour8546 no I mean cast out the demon and all becomes well. The Bible says he was clothed in his right mind. Who's mind was he in?
Mark 5:15
15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
If I had a penny for everytime I was told I didn't have enough faith. Thank you for giving me a new perspective.
Or when you’re told that it’s a spiritual issue and that perhaps one has opened spiritual doors and it’s demonic spirits, and that Christians shouldn’t be depressed and can be healed through deliverance
"Depression is the expression of a heart that is seeing accurately that this world is not the way that it should be."
This blessed me
Oh that’s beautifully said.
Depression can also Happend when a human gets shocked extremly. Im one of them. I dont get it away and i have it since one and a half years now. Sure this World is Not for us but for the non belives but we all still have a purpose Here. Im Christian To and God removed it quite good but Theres still a Part of the Depression that doesnt Go and makes my day completly destroyed sometimes. So im sometimes doing Things i shouldnt do as a Christian To get some fun. I should Trust God completly but He only gives me so much Energy to keep myself on my feet but not to Change Things. God has His Plans but unless i cant understand or See them its Impossible for me to really Trust him 100% so im doing wrong Things that i hate to Balance the bad Feelings with the good ones.
David is one that always springs to mind. He had depression; you can see this in the Psalms. But he always ended up focused on the Lord, and I love that you discussed this concept. “The joy of the Lord is our strength.” He didn’t promise an easy life, but He did promise His Spirit and His peace. ❤️
David was a murdering psychopathic adulterer, he wasn't depressed he was a narcissistic egomaniac ya frigging dunce. Goddamn, you christ-worshipping-cult-members truly are deluded and have the most bizarre thought processes.
Cryo Gyro why bring him down be respectful and explain your point of view also Job is the one that comes to my mind
I was 5 years of chronic illness. Semi Housebound, lost my health, job, finances and my fiance left me. I couldn't even look at electronic screen for 5 minutes, or hold a 10-minute conversation.
But God did an amazing work. And if he can do this, he can do it in you also. 😇🙏
I now have a Christian Channel where I encourage people and show them what God did in my life and that there is hope for you also.
*Keep believing even when it's hard* 🙏❤️🙌🔥👆🏼
*All things are possible with God*
@@lionoffireministries thank you
@@gracetoglory5020 you’re welcome and bless you. I actually made a documentary this week of a week in my life trust in God during such adversities. Feel free to have a look if you think it something that might interest you. And may God bless you in your faith journey 😊✝️
Am in a dark place right now... My mental health has been off and on.. Thank you for this encouraging video
Hope you’re feeling better 💚 sending love and light 🙏
❤
Beem 4 months since this comment. How are you doing lately?
@@Arifumi_Cry out to God, my friend! He loves you more than you can ever imagine. Do you have a local Bible-believing church nearby? If so, reach out to the believers there and ask for help. Pray continually and read God’s Word. “Cast all your cares on him because he cares for you.” 1 Peter 5:7
Hope you are doing better.
Thank you i have been told I cannot be depressed if im a true Christian
I was told the same thing, now I know depression is very, real & more people suffer from it than they'd like to admit.
@Evelyn Choy depression is an illness just like a heart problem , it can be brought on by physical or envi mental issues .
It needs treatment like anyother illness .
people in the Bible experienced depression , even Jesus , so stop being so quick to judge and condemn others who are experiencing depression .
@Evelyn Choy You haven't understood this guy, I have suffered depression for years and this guy has really helped me. Don't despair, it's not anyone's fault, you need to try and understand what he is saying. It makes real sense to me. Jeremiah was called the weeping prophet, Elijah broke down with depression because he could not see the big picture. Job got depressed and said though He(God) slay me yet will I trust Him. Depression is an accurate emotion for the state of this fallen world. It all makes sense. Take care.
Thank you for this video, the cause of my depression is part biological and psychological. This video has helped me because I look at the world and see it as all pointless, it's fallen, it's passing away and therefore pointless. We live, we die. The only thing that makes life bearable is because Jesus lives. It's because He lives, I can face tomorrow. You are totally right, God's light is the brightest in the dark places, the valleys. I get what you are saying about depression being an accurate emotion of the state of this world but what helped me is when you said Jesus is going to fix it. The fact that one day Jesus is going to destroy all the evil and we shall be changed makes this world tolerable because God is on the throne.
Thanks, this somehow made much sense to me.
@Evelyn Choy The suffering never feels good but God allowes it to happen to His children sometimes. The bible says ALL things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. Depression and other hardships can most definitely produce good. The pinnacle being that Jesus suffered on the cross, it was a horrible thing for Jesus to endure but through His suffering and death a lot of good came ie the destruction of the works of the devil and redemption of the people of God.
This is the most salient response to Christian depression I have ever heard. I’ve had a suspicion for a long time that being happy and positive every single day after being saved is just not accurate. That hasn’t been my experience at all. While I love the Lord and trust that He will prevail over this world, living in this world as it stands currently can be overwhelming and depressing. For a long time, I believed my depression was a sign that I was falling away from God, simply because I wasn’t going out everyday with a smile and singing Christian songs in the street. This explanation makes absolute sense and is encouraging to me. I can see now that depression is almost inevitable if you can truly see the stark difference between what we know about the future with God and what we’re living with every day in the world.
I used to attend a church where there were a lot of people who lived very comfortably, had amazing lifestyles, and lived without a care in the world. That was not my experience. I wonder how many Christians who claim to live depression-free are simply hiding behind a lavish lifestyle that insulates them from the reality of a truly broken world.
I completely understand and agree. This video cut right to the heart of it as well as your comment! 😇
Amen. I thought i was wrong for feeling this way but you explained this perfectly.
Depression dosent exist. I'm going to tell you a story about myself that happened in the span of two days. In. The first day I was severely depressed, and almost committed suicide. The next day, god helped me change my perspective. I got out of it.
Amen
I get so mad that my boyfriend pushes me to be happy, like fr this world is so horrible and he is always trying to get me to ignore the issues of this upside down world... he says it’s wrong to want to kill myself but I hate living in this world...it’s depressing and messed up... he’s always telling me to focus on the good things in life, but what about the wrong that we neglect??
I believe christians are often depressed , because we sense evil everywhere.. evil we can not change.
everyone will eventually change mate. some take lomger than others. some die before they get a chance. but i assure you everyone and everything changes
also i dont think there is really true "evil" or "good" side. can you give an example of evil?
We can change and chase whatever evil when God is with us
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@@kristen3715 you need Jesus
As a person who is suffering from leukemia, and suffered from addiction, this hit so close to home. Love this! ❤❤❤
Are you okay 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Sweetie , you’ll be alright
Be healed in Jesus name. Leukemia die! You Live!
Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body.
Completely normal btw.
In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit.
Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
@@jesusdeity2010 AMEN❣️
The promise: "the Lord is my light" is most precious from a place of darkness.
Thank you for this video.
The " Lord " is Yahweh - you must NEVER worship this evil being.Yahweh was the evil cruel God of Israel and is NOT God !!!!! Please be careful with all this.
@@feeltheforce10 Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God, God manifested on earth in a human body. Period.
Completely normal btw. In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the fuzz Jesus being the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit.
Because your imams never understood this, they mock, scoff, put it down, contradict it.... leading you away from your true identity in God. Heartbreaking.
Same happens in Christianity btw. Most Christians think it is about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed into His image from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
Thank you God for stopping down in Christ. Now we see what life is all about. Thank you for your Spirit in us that transforms us back to Gen 1:27. The image of Christ. Walking in unselfish divine power and love. You are so amazing!
@@jesusdeity2010 Sadly that story is not true - its the theology writers translation.Totally false.I am glad i have learnt the true meaning of the scriptures.God was never in the ancient texts - it was ELOHIM.Theology writers added the word God as a concept.ELOHIM is a plural word - they are many and they are not God.We are manufactured in their image and likeness .The Adam and Eve story we all know is false and totally different to the ancient texts.
There is no original sin - its not in the Bible - its been invented to control the masses.
Eternity is also not in the Bible - OLAM is the Hebrew word wrongly translated as eternity - on and on the false story goes.I suggest you search deeper for the real story - i wasted 7 years believing in it all.
The Lord in the Old testament was Yahweh - a God to Israel and its people only.
An evil murdering being who was assigned to the family of Jacob and is one of the ELOHIM who established Israel.A God of war - all the Psalms are war poems and songs devoted to Yahweh in the battle to establish Israel.
Creation from nothing is also not in the Bible but wrongly translated to give the concept of " God ".BARA is the Hebrew word wrongly translated as meaning to create from nothing.Creation was already here - the deception goes on and on.
Virgin birth is false - Germany in 2017 removed it from their Bibles and added the correct term Young woman.
Red Sea and the parting is false - no miracle from " God ". Moses walked through the Sea Of Reeds - which is a real sea and shallow and can be walked through in parts.
Study Mauro Biglino and his teachings - an ex Bible translator who gives the real translations - not man made theology stories.
@@feeltheforce10 comedy gold, haha
I really appreaciated the part about "failed hope", based on expectations
Love that part. Best way to explain how I feel
I thought this video did a fantastic job of describing the reality of living in a broken world--one that knows and fully understands a future glory and redemption, yes; but being held in limbo until awaiting a perfect eternity.
Exactly!!!
Beautifully said.
It is here.
Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body.
Completely normal btw.
In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit.
Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
Well I am a Christian a true Christian for 13 years and I've been dealing with depression since I was 9 years old and I take medication for it.
Well Im depressed and in emotional instability since I was born and im 15 rn soo... Im on the edge of suiciding
The Da'ga Bro don’t it’s not worth it your life is valued by your family, and even though I don’t know you, me. I value your life and believe that you should push forward. If you cant for yourself, please for those that love you
@Dove Dove Well at least I felt like that at the beginning, now everything feels just common to me, I cant think of any reason why he doesnt help me. Without Him and this commitment,I feel more free and do whatever I want, as free as I am, I still do feel like as if Im doing something wrong by not following Him...
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@@angeldustsprinkles5186 You are so true. She twist the bible to fit her own agenda.
This is what I needed today. SO blessed that this came up in my feed. 64-years-old and have battled depression and anxiety since I was a little kid. Dealing with suicidal ideation, but would never actually take my own life. My house is a mess, I've packed on a bunch of pounds, and I rarely have any energy. Haven't been to church in months. Trying to break out of the cycle, but am not having much success. THANK YOU for addressing this! My love and prayers are going out to everyone who's suffering. Bless ALL of you, and hold fast to God's promises!
I am so encouraged. PRAISE GOD!!!! Thank you God!!
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We're not gonna b happy here.. We're not promised happiness but security n hope.. PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME JESUS who carries me through my depression everyday without fail.. Very good brother.. Good explanation.. Thank you for your dedication..
I do not ever remember not being depressed, I decided not to take meds for my depression.I am saved and i have learned to deal with it. I know when i am going deep into it. I have also learned that God owes me nothing and no one else does , so my expectations are very low of others.I have no idea why i suffer from depression for so many years. God is the only reason i am able to cope. I can live a normal life with it.But i admit sometimes when i feel myself going into it too deep it becomes hard.
This is so interesting to me. I only recently started dealing with anxiety and depression. I can'timagine someone really living in this state for years. I pray for your healing.
Read Quran also
This video brought me to tears because I relate to this so closely. Thank you for this.
jamie-lee smith I’m totally in the same boat!!
yes Exactly the same. 🙏
Change has come.
Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body.
Completely normal btw.
In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and spirit.
Same happens in Christianity btw. Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
@@suncity8373
Change has come.
Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body.
Completely normal btw.
In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit.
Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
Jamie-lee smith.
Im here for you..
When everything is made to be broken i just want you to know who i am.
Ty this helped me so much. Struggled for 30+ years with depression. I know God wins, its just hard to be surrounded by so much ugliness. I will finish the race. I will keep the faith.
That's like saying can I be a Christian and have a broken leg.
Being depressed and having depression are VERY different things, despite the constant conflation. One is the absence of proper chemical balance in the brain while the other is actually feeling negative things- a person with depression may feel nothing at all.
Your view on this is not supported
by any facts. I don't know how you
came up with this.
@@metsot I think what he's saying is that there's a difference between clinical depression as a mental illness and being depressed as a temporary affliction. Someone that is clinically depressed doesn't feel that way as a response to outside circumstances. They feel that way because there is something wrong with the chemical structure of the brain. Therefore, the hope and peace that a normal person may feel internally even when they have feelings of depression doesn't necessarily exist for the clinically depressed. A normal person who is depressed because of the world around them has the ability to think "its okay because I know God is in control and one day he will wipe out all sadness and grief," and feel a sense of relief underneath the depression they feel. But someone that is clinically depressed doesn't feel that sense of relief knowing that God will come back and conquer all. There is no internal peace because the only internal feeling is depression. When the depression comes from inside of you instead of from outside circumstances, that sense of relief and peace underneath it all never comes.
@@metsot Yes it is. There is clinical depression which IS caused by medical problems in the brain. If you have had a major depression before you can have it again due to these chemicals having issues. The same goes for anxiety. You need medication.
Thank you soooo much for this clarification. I have lost the pleasure of doing things I usually love the most, I cry a lot, I have mood swings and being in service at Church I felt guilty abt my condition, until this vid where the concepts of joy and hope and depression have been cleared out. Thank you. Be blessed!
I've experienced depression i thoughts i was gone to be losing my memory i was losing hope but then i consult with friend and he give me a good advice that surrender yourself to the Lord JESUS and all your battles and God heal me and i read ISAIAH 43.18-19
Im going tru it know, what should i do 😭
First you have to have faith in God pray and read the Bible john. 8:32,35 john 10:10.. 1Corinth 3:16-17 john 14:1, 14:27 Galatian 5:22-23 have faith and be patience let God do the work for you surrender all your battles to Jesus.
@@leonardoc0rtez289 Perspective!
Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body.
Completely normal btw.
In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit.
Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
Jesus thank you for loving us, changing us and making us walk just like you, by your Spirit. In unselfish divine power and love. You are so amazing!
Helpful video, but perhaps a broadening of terms and clarification of what is depression would be useful. There was mention of the physiological or medical side, and that needs better articulation. What I'm hearing described here isn't DEPRESSION, but rather, melancholy, discouragement, sadness, fear, disappointment, or even disbelief. Depression, medically defined, can be more severe than those. Please, when using the word "depression", let's make sure we consider a greater range of language. It's easy to reinforce poor preconceptions and misconceptions of that term.
Anthony Church thank you, when you hit clinical depression it's able to sustain itself without outside influences and the church doesn't do that good of a job of addressing the condition.
The title for this video post "Can a true Christian have depression?" doesn't match the what's shown inside the video, which is "Can a true Christian be depressed?". They're both addressed to some extent in the video, but they're not the same.
Unhelpful statement... perhaps you need more personal experience with spiritual torture and mental illness. You say what you said simply because you've heard it spoken by people who themselves lack personal experience with spiritual torture and mental illness that there is an "over-application" of the term depression in our society, and not all sadness needs to be medically treated. Which is partly true. But if you had real, personal experience with such matters, as I do having Bipolar for 13 years, you would know how accurate this man's words are. His understanding of Depression is far greater than yours. All levels of despair, sadness, grief, and "depression" come from exactly what he said... a loss of what someone longed for. And Joy is the faithful presence of God and the confident hope He gives in a wonderful eternity.
How do you know? Do you suffer from Depression or Mental illness? Because I have Bipolar and it was EXTREMELY helpful to me.
I think what you think he should be saying is pursue happiness and use your pills well bla bla bla but it's beyond that and this is what he addressed faithfully... all those things come after.
I love my lord & appreciate him beyond words, but all this pain & agony feels like too much at times. I will keep my faith & love for him. I will fight for my salvation. God is the only way.
News for you.
Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body.
Completely normal btw.
In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit.
Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
Thank you!! I've been thinking something must be horribly wrong with me...you've explained it all and brought it together beautifully 💕
Thanks for clearing this topic. I been depressed from childhood now I'm 60 .. I'm a functioning depressed woman I go to work and stuff. I the weekend I'm stuck stagnant can't leave the house. I'm seeking help for the first time in my life.
Mudd Pie I'm so glad that you're seeking help! Please try your best to stick with it. Praying for peace, healing and that you'll see the light in the midst of darkness. God bless! :) ❤️
I am suffering for depression for about 8 years now... This is helpful... Thank you
How are you doing now? I hope you're doing fine. God bless you always dear, stay strong in faith🙏
Perspective is key.
Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body.
Completely normal btw.
In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit.
Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
Thank you. I also have low serotonin and I think I'm pretty prone to being spiritually attacked too. It's a big tangle of issues and I believe a lot of Christians are in the same boat. We can have medicine too, and help from the church.
How did the church help you?
@@elyse443 Some people are more informed and less legalistic in their views, so some layed hands on me, prayed, and earnestly asked the Lord to heal me. Others...didn't. I learned a lot by needing to search the Bible and seek the truth on this subject, because I was also told repeatedly that I caused it myself.
I'm sorry if this seems negative or gossip-y, but certain people began claiming I wasn't a real Christian, that I was "choosing not to live in the joy of the Lord" and "probably wasn't even saved." So I needed to really do some inner work, and grow a lot. I also left my local church ultimately. But I understand scripture more, and I'm grateful.
I take alternative antidepressants that actually work. Not being healed miraculously, and being slandered by others motivated me to seek out natural medicinal stuff (SSRIs didn't help).
I have felt exactly how he presents it, “if you believe in God, you should be joyous,” thinking that as blessed as I am, I must be ungrateful if I am depressed.
I am struggling through a situation that stems directly from false hope. I left the college I was at when it failed my expectations, and expected that having a job in the meantime would bring satisfaction until I go back to college. Thank you for the clarification you offer in this video!
I think your video is partly helpful in that you say that a Christian can be depressed. From personal experience as a practicing Christian I know what it is to be depressed. The onset of it began when I was in my late twenties working as an international development volunteer in Swaziland, Africa. Working in poor rural Africa be a challenge for someone with good mental health but it becomes so much more difficult when you become depressed. I think my depression was compounded by the effects of the anti-malarial drugs I was taking but I also believe that the chemistry of my brain was at fault in that it did not produce enough of the serotonin neurotransmitter associated with good mental health. Without it depression results. I also suffered from anxiety which was caused by a lack of norepinephrine the neurotransmitter that must be present in sufficient quantities to connect with the 5HT2 receptors in the brain. When it's not present at normal levels a person can experience anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder, eating disorders like anorexia and bulimia. I just had anxiety. I worried about everything. It seemed impossible to think positive thoughts about everything in my personal life and everything about life. I spent 30 years in that state, suffering. Praying did not seem to help. Talk therapy with psychologists and psychiatrist only helped a little. Then I met a psychiatrist who convinced me that I should take a special anti-depression, anti-anxiety drug known as an SNRI anti-depressant, also known as a Seritonin - Norepinephrine Re-uptake Inhibitor which is designed to keep the levels of serotonin and norepinephrine high. This was something I had been opposed to for a long time, believing that I should be able to fix this problem on my own with God's help. I gave in and the drugs transformed my life. In a few months the depression and anxiety were gone, replaced by good mental health that has stayed that way for the past 14 years. My experience of depression and anxiety and my knowledge about their impact on mental health has made me more compassionate and given me the ability to provide support to others who are suffering. My Christian faith has strengthening. I now lead by example as a Christian and people recognise me for what I am.
The problem is that we can’t have a glimpse of that beautiful world thats coming, then how can you hope and find happiness in something no human being (alive) has ever experienced?
I’m struggling with anhedonia, the lack of finding pleasure in anything, for several years. I’m just existing
Same here. I find tiny moments of joy occasionally, but mostly I've lost interest in things that I used to enjoy.
I suffer from joyless intensity.
This makes me feel so much better. I feel such shame, especially when I read the Bible because of how depressed I often feel. It’s not that I’m not thankful or that I don’t love God. The trauma just creates a cycle of negativity. God has carried me where I couldn’t go, I will trust in Him, and I will do it without a facade
This is so good because sometimes I can feel guilty when I feel overwhelmed and defeated. I thank God for this video. Thank you so much. Now I have a batter understanding of negative emotions.
This is very good. Not heard this take on depression. Biblically based really helpful. Thank you.
This is soooooo good and encouraging. I’d been having depressive episodes for a while now. Thanks for sharing on a failed hope. That we put our hope in wrong things than God. Thank you so much
Right perspective is key.
Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body.
Completely normal btw.
In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit.
Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
Ps 119:165
I always feel like I just want to disappear , disappear and float in nothingness. I am very tired of the injustice going on around the world. Christians would often say, " you are blessed because others have more sufferings that you do" This is exactly my point! How can i feel that I am blessed if others aren't blessed like me. I can't sleep at night knowing others don't have a place to stay , or tortured or killed in other countries. so much injustice I can't feel like oh I'm blessed. I can't be happy knowing that so many people are unhappy.
Wow! That was beautifully said. Anointed teacher.
I've discovered that there are a multitude of Christians suffering with depression and unless they tell you, you would never know this is what they are dealing with.
QUESTION:
In my Christian Coaching practice I've worked with clients that have both, Anxiety & Depression. What I've noticed is that as we work on the Anxiety, a bonus side-effect happened. The depression often went away or decreased as the Anxiety was relieved. We didn't directly work on the depression itself but it happened simultaneously. To God's glory!
Just wondering if anyone else has noticed that also? Is this a common scenario?
Blessings!
the unclear part of this video is the definition of depression, because depression in this generation is a long time feeling of hopelessness. the way he explained it seems to me, he is suggesting it's ok to have a long term hoplessness. that's not what the bible says. in Corinthians, Paul said, that God's grace is sufficient for us and His strength is made perfect in our weakness. Paul said it, so that we will not stay in a depressed state.
When he recited that first verse, tears just started falling because I was absolutely in that place but this was so insightful and he pinpointing my exact feelings. I am so so appreciative for this topic and grateful to God, The Almighty Counselor, for giving you these blessed word to share.
Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body.
Completely normal btw.
In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit.
Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
Holy Spirit thanks for letting us walk in unselfish power and love.
Ps.119:165.
Thank you so much. You seem to have nailed it. I've felt depressed off and on the last three years because of my wife's death. Still I have to change the subject in my own mind to stop that feeling. Romans 8 is very good.
i have been feeling depressed this passed 2-3 days . i feel it often.i thought it is nor normal for a christian to feel depressed. it was very helpful to listen to this message.
Right perspective is key.
Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body.
Completely normal btw.
In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit.
Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
You woke me up, on my depression, wow how God works, amazing, bless you, it's made me feel, good and realization I was asleep. Thank you so much. I will share this with others. God oh how you work in times of ones distress, is and will be praise and glory to our creator. X
That was beautifully insightful and true. Thank you, this helped so much.
Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body.
Completely normal btw.
In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit.
Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
I was so depressed but when i saw you ain't depress no more.
❤😊😘
U made me cry hearing this man. God bless u brother. Thanks Dr. Pierre!
Please pray that the Lord will rescue me from this corrupt, wicked, wretched God forsaken planet, and welcome me into his Kingdom.
I think of Proverbs 13:12, where it says hope deferred can make a heart sick, but when the desire is fulfilled, it becomes a tree of life. I think what makes us depressed most of the time is when we hang onto a hope that is delayed so long that it can affect our whole being, like a person desiring to be married and not finding the right person (or God not delivering the right person when we think we should have the right person).
Depression may be the hardest thing a person can go through...It steals your life, robs your joy, makes you withdraw from loved one. Turns yourself on yourself. It follows you to bed and when you wake up its waiting on you there. It's an all consuming disorder. I have found myself battling this disease and it has to be the worst thing I've ever experienced. I love the Lord and I know Jesus is my savior. My hope is I will be restored with a new understanding and sympathy for thoughs that battle mental health issues. Prayers for those seeking relief... just remember someday in Glory we won't be able to feel this way....Praise Jesus!
very true brother... the depression I've suffered through has robbed me of so many things, notably my friends and ability to fellowship without forcing myself into it. the worst thing is the bitterness I sink into every so often, a sin which I hate so much, and yet, seems to rise up in me whenever I feel lacking in my hope and my faith. i truly pray God can deliver me and every other brother/sister suffering through this illness, as its such a difficult way to live. God is faithful.
So helpful, I dont think I am experiencing depression but many people around me do, it’s been the best answer to the question I’ve ever heard.
This explanation has helped me and encouraged me greatly this week. I’ve been going through an inexplicable bout of depression, as a Christian who finds joy and hope in Jesus, I was disenchanted by my experience. Although I’m still having my moments, I’m encouraged to know what I’m going through is normal and, expected to some degree. Thank you
This guy, who ever he is always gives the most thoughtful answers. Someone from Southern Seminary, if you read this, give him a thank you from me.
I say yes!!!! I'm a true Christian and depression is killing my faith and hope the more I go on. God's silence in my prayers is really testing my lifelong faith. And I'm not sure who to turn to anymore. I see all these people getting answers to prayer their very first time they cry out to Jesus. Yet after years of tear filled conversations to God in complete humility yet I only have silence!😥
so many thoughts, feelings, fears, emotions, stresses
arise for me,
as I watch this video...
here's just a few of the things
I get flooded with:
- emotional pain.
- unbearable grief.
- homicidal rage.
- suicidal depression.
- there's a person I sort of/kind of
have a crush on,
and the whole situation
is beyond fucked
and is completely toxic,
and I don't know how to get out...
and if I DO get out,
I have nothing.
- I am a failure in every aspect of my life.
- I'm old now, the future is hopeless...
- I recall the past and it fills me with rage.
- I live in poverty.
- fat/diabetic.
- how the fuck am I going to change my life around?
- perpetually single, without friends (my whole life).
- C-PTSD/INFJ/HSP/SPD
- people I love, got that horrific c-19 jab and I am terrified for them.
- panic panic panic...
David: I am weary with my moaning; every night I flood my bed with tears; I drench my couch with my weeping.
Jeremiah: I remember my affliction and my wandering, the bitterness and the gall. I will remember them, and my soul is downcast within me.
Job: May the day on which I was to be born perish, as well as the night which said, ‘A boy is conceived.’
Elijah: I have had enough, Lord. Take my life.
Jesus: And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.
This is me. My whole adult life - which has been a Pilgrim’s life - I’ve always felt this way. Now I know how I must proceed, knowing that I’m actually in mourning for something better. . And that I’m not a failure . . Thank-you .
I'm showing this video to my brothers because I knew there was something so natural about depression. It would help them. God bless you
This is the most well thought out, scriptural treatment of this question that I have come across. 40 years being a Christian that struggles with depression (mostly dysthymia).
Thankyou Jesus !!
Helps so much brother. Thank you brother that I can get rid of my expectation that if I have any unhappiness I am a failed Christian. it actually removes some of the heavy load knowing this.
I think that's what causes us to sin is when our Depression hit. Because we feel like we need something to fill that void but we truly know the Jesus and God are the Eternal Joy.
honestly, i am christian. and i have depression. i have a psychological chemical imbalance, and i have low serotonin according to my brain scans. i’m not hopeless. it’ll just take really long to get me out. i’m not severe. i’m moderate. i have a psychological problem, and its ok. i accepted it. my only hope is god.
My mother always told me that I’m not trusting God enough if I am depressed and worried..
Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body.
Completely normal btw.
In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit.
Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
when we, as Christians, daily deal with the brokenness of the world we feel a sorrow for which we become compassionate to others knowing they ALSO have to deal with this, thus to having this compassion, allows us to be caring, and forgiving because we acknowledge the brokenness of the world,..This is where humility is born from,...
I can agree. Sometimes you can feel things so strongly that it feels like depression. What he says makes sense about living in a broken world and the negative emotion we feel (maybe even internalize). No one has explained like that. Thank you.
This is a really wonderful answer, it comforts me greatly - thank you Southern Seminary.
Thank you so much for this explanation! This really spoke to my heart! 🙏🏾
I have depression and anxiety, please pray for me
It is al about Perspective!
Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body.
Completely normal btw.
In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit.
Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
Jesus thank you for loving us, changing us and making us walk just like you, by your Spirit. In unselfish divine power and love. You are so amazing!
I thought you were going to tell me that I am a fake Christian because of depression. Thank you for this. I really needed it.
You may not know me, but I know everything about you - *Psalm 139:1*
I know when you sit down and when you rise up - *Psalm 139:2*
I am familiar with all your ways - *Psalm 139:3*
Even the very hairs on your head are numbered - *Matthew 10:30*
For you were made in MY IMAGE - *Genesis 1:27*
In me you live and move and have your being - *Acts 17:26-28*
I knew you even before you were concieved - *Jeremiah 1:5*
I chose you when I planned creation - *Ephesians 1:11-12*
You were not a mistake, for all your days are written in my Book - *Psalm 139:15-16*
I determinate the exact time of your birth and where you would live - *Acts 17:26*
You are fearfully and wonderfully made - *Psalm 139:14*
I knit you together in your mother’s womb - *Psalm 139:13*
And brough you forth on the day you were born - *Psalm 71:6*
I have been misrepresented by those who don’t know me - *John 8:41-44*
I am not distant and angry but I am the complete expression of Love - *1John **4:16*
And it is my desire to lavish my love on you. Simply, because you are my child and I am your Father - *1John 3:1*
I offer you more than your earthly father ever could - *Matthew 7:11*
For I AM THE PERFECT FATHER - *Matthew 5:48*
Every good gift that you receive comes from my hand - *James 1:17*
For I am your provider and I meet all your needs - *Matthew 6:31-33*
My plan for your future has always been filled with hope - *Jeremiah 29:11*
*BECAUSE I LOVE YOU WITH EVERLASTING LOVE* - *Jeremiah 31:3*
My thoughts toward you are countless as the sand on the seashore - *Psalm 139:17-18*
And I rejoice over you with singing - *Zephaniah **3:17*
I will never stop doing good to you - *Jeremiah 32:40*
For you are my treasure possession - *Exodus 19:5*
I desire to establish you with all my heart and all my soul - *Jeremiah 32:41*
And I want to show you great and marvelous things - *Jeremiah 33:3*
If you seek me with all your heart, you will find me - *Deuteronomy **4:29*
Deligh in me and I will give you the desires of your heart - *Psalm 37:4*
For it is I who gave you those desires - *Philippians 2:13*
I am able to do more for you than you could possibly imagine - *Ephesians 3:20-21*
For I am your greatest encourager - *2Thessalonians **2:16**-17*
I am also Father who comforts you in all your troubles - *2Corinthians 1:3-4*
When you are brokenhearted, I am close to you - *Psalm 34:18*
As a shepherd carries a lamb, I have carried you close to my heart - *Isaiah 40:11*
One day I will wipe away every tear from your eyes and I will take away all the pain you have suffered on this earth - *Revelation 21:3-4*
I am your Father and I love you even as I love my Son, Jesus Christ - *John 17:23*
For in Jesus my Love for you is revealed - *John 17:26*
He is the exact representation of my being - *Hebrews 1:3*
He came to demonstate that I am for you, not against you - *Romans 8:31*
And to tell you that I am not counting your sins. Jesus died so that you and I could be reconciled - *2Corinthians 5:18-19*
His death was the ultimate expression of my love for you - *1John **4:10*
I gave up everything I loved that I might gain your love - *Romans 8:31-32*
If you receive the gift of my Son Jesus Christ, you receive ME - *1John **2:23*
And nothing will ever separate you from my Love again - *Romans 8:38-39*
Come Home and I will throw the biggest party heaven has ever seen - *Luke 15:7*
I have always been Father and will always be Father - *Ephesians 3:14-15*
Shalom and God bless you ❤️
I was suffering from severe depression during the covid lockdown for many months, but I am grateful to God for finally bringing me through it . I just had to learn to persevere by reading the bible, Luther's prayer book and his sermons daily, which reacquainted me with the word of God and his promises of salvation through his son Jesus Christ. Thankyou to all those who prayed to God for me when I posted my prayer request here 6 months earlier. My circumstances havent changed apart from getting in touch again with an old friend and am still working from home . However I have been brought out of the pit of despair I was in a few months ago by the grace of God. I hope this encourages others who are suffering in the same way x
Short answer: yes.
It doesn't have anything to do with our faith and salvation in Christ. I am learning more about this particular mental health issue. Nothing can separate us from the love of God. Not even depression or anxiety. Amen.
Depression is not a joke. Gods grace I survived in depression. This method really helped me in overcoming depression.
Six Ways Jesus Fought Depression
Then Jesus went with them to a place called Gethsemane, and he said to his disciples, “Sit here, while I go over there and pray.” And taking with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, he began to be sorrowful and troubled. Then he said to them, “My soul is very sorrowful, even to death; remain here, and watch[d] with me.” And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.” (Matthew 26:36-39)
The Bible gives us an amazing glimpse into the soul of Jesus the night before he was crucified. Watch and learn from the way Jesus fought his strategic battle against despondency or depression.
1.)He chose some close friends to be with him. “Taking with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee” (Matthew 26:37)
2.)He opened his soul to them. He said to them, “My soul is very sorrowful, even to death” (Matthew 26:38)
3.}He asked for their intercession and partnership in the battle. “Remain here, and watch with me” (Matthew 26:38)
4.}He poured out his heart to his Father in prayer. “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me” (Matthew 26:39)
5.}He rested his soul in the sovereign wisdom of God. “Nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will” (Matthew 26:39)
6.}He fixed his eye on the glorious future grace that awaited him on the other side of the cross. “For the joy that was set before him [he] endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God” (Hebrews 12:2).
When something drops into your life that seems to threaten your future, remember this: The first shock waves of the bomb in your heart, like the ones Jesus felt in Gethsemane, are not sin. The real danger is yielding to them. Giving in. Putting up no spiritual fight. And the root of that sinful surrender is unbelief - a failure to fight for faith in future grace. A failure to cherish all that God promises to be for us in Jesus.
In Gethsemane Jesus shows us another way. Not painless, and not passive. Follow him. Find your trusted spiritual friends. Open your soul to them. Ask them to watch with you and pray. Pour out your soul to the Father. Rest in the sovereign wisdom of God. And fix your eyes on the joy set before you in the precious and magnificent promises of God.
Thank u
I feel sad, while I was watching I thought of a verse that says there is a time for everything. Having sadness for God leads to everlasting life compared to the sadness of the world, but at the same time Paul says in romans to rejoice in the lord.
How I needed to hear this.
I been severe depression for decades and i been Christian with good faith and working faith for 25 years; I live for the life to come, not this world which will pass away. I been out of work since 2005, I may never work again , but I hope to change things with faith, whether my depression will be here to stay and sever anxiety, it may just be the cross for me to bear.
This is possibly the best, most encouraging, and downright theologically rational video I've watched on CZcams in a long, long time... Thank you.
Thank you... I needed this. Thank you, Father for the men and women you put in place to nudge us back to the path we've strayed from.
Amen! Perspective!
Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body.
Completely normal btw.
In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit.
Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
Jesus thank you for loving us, changing us and making us walk just like you, by your Spirit. In unselfish divine power and love. You are so amazing!
I’ve always been a sad person and it hurts me because it seem contrary to faith. Life keeps failing me.
Thank you so much for this video. I feel like a different person now. I feel like I finally have my life back. Depression has always been a huge factor in my life, and being a Christian, I felt like God was ignoring my pleas. Now you’ve given me something to look forward to. This was all I needed. Thank you😭
The last piece of the puzzle. "Eternal life" was translated from "Zoe" wich actually means "life of God"....
Perspective!
Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body.
Completely normal btw.
In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit.
Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
Jesus thank you for loving us, changing us and making us walk just like you, by your Spirit. In unselfish divine power and love. You are so amazing!
well I dont know what Im going thru. Im a christian who is up and down. I feel good and have faith one day then the next day I feel depressed with suicidal thoughts. Im married to someone I dont want, have no home or money, lost everything years ago. I read my bible, go to church, pray believe I already recieved it. but nothing has changed, so I go back to being depressed. Sometimes I just wanna give up.
Mj, Please dont give up, you are valuable & precioua to God. He has NOT forgotten about you. Find some women in your church who can encourage & pray for you. Love you & I will pray for you.
Do you have a group? Fellowship/bible group in particular. You can't fight it alone. Jesus says that we need each other to uplift and encourage one another. And personally it has helped me so much in my faith and depressive state that it occurred less and less as time passed by.
The struggle is what build your spiritual muscles. Stay in the word and keep hanging on I'm going through Exactly the same thing or was should I say.
This helps soo much ...I don’t think I’m depressed like sad but it’s times where i would rather not be here(on earth) . The scriptures really motivated me 🙏
My depression began when I strayed away from God. I believe there’s a difference between having negative emotions and wanting to take your own life. I don’t like the idea of depression being necessary for a Christian. Yes we get discouraged at times but I wouldn’t call that depression. If we are at that point where we live with depression I think we need to evaluate our life and salvation and see where we went wrong. Philippians 2:12 says to work out our salvation. How is our relationship with God? Our devotion? Our reading and prayer? When we neglect our salvation is when Satan comes in and attacks. That’s when he uses depression to make us feel worthless and miserable. I wouldn’t wish depression on my worst enemy. I also don’t think as a Christian it’s okay or justifiable to have depression. Don’t settle. James 4:7 ; Ephesians 6:12
You know nothing at all about depression.
Thank you Jeremy so much! That was a wonderful,insightful ,hopeful and inspiring presentation! I am looking at my christian life with depression in a new way!
Christians do get depressed , it's part of being in a fallen state and being in a fallen world .
But , thankfully , God comforts the depressed and even has that written in His word .
Yes I get depressed on a regular basis. I know the Lord is with me but sometimes I feel so alone.
@@db7292 You feel alone because you are alone. Your imaginary friend does not exist.
This was so helpful. Thank you. Bien again and struggle with depression and anxiety. Your right , we put our hope in things that fail, we have to remind ourselves that God will not fail us , and there is more than this life .
I feel like myself and others broke my life. All the time.
Details It hurts , trust me I know. Keep the faith, stay in prayer. You are loved more than you’ll ever know.
Don't give up
New Life in Christ.
Gen 1:27.
"And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority".
That got lost through the fall of man.
But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us.
The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said:
"If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc".
It is in John 14 up to 17.
It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word.
Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body.
Completely normal btw.
In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is.
Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced.
God has come full circle!
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18
The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit.
Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day.
Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love.
Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 AMP
One of the most impressive uses of 9mins I have experienced
Can a true Christian be depressed? YES!
I had a period of bad depression after a stroke. Praying and strongly believing God loves me was a beacon that guided me out of it. I am a Calvinist and my belief in predestination made me believe that God had not abandoned me. I knew I was chosen. That was a concept that helped me defeat the anxiety, fear and failure that I was feeling. I knew that what ever happened to me in this fallen world God would redeem me in the end. I believe "once saved always saved". I had invited Jesus into my heart and I knew if I asked I would receive. I knew whatever circumstances were ahead of me that God was with me and those circumstances were a necessary experience I had to have while earthbound. I trust God's will and if I have to go through this I will go through it boldly and with purpose.
I had hope and knowledge that in the end I would be with my Creator and free of conflict.
Depression is an irrational "feeling". Focussing on your faith and God's love for you chases that "feeling" away. At least it did for me.
Why I was depressed in the first place is a mystery to me. I was afraid to go to my mail box. I was dogged by anxiety until I remembered God loves me and is always with me.
A fascinating explanation. Thank you.
You know imma say this. I struggled with depression, severe sadness. Though I still cry to beautiful things and how scary hell is. God told me one day through scripture that he can set me free if I give it all to him. And one day I said I wish to bare fruits of the spirit I no longer want depression. And I gave it to God. And it hasn't come back. Though I still battle with anger and I still do cry because I'm human I am not crippled by depression no more. Jesus is glorious and he fulfilled the father by bringing us back to the kingdom. I glorify Jesus name for it brings us back to God and gives us a chance to experience heaven on earth! Amen!
I also think there are good points here, but what about predisposition due to genes? What would you say to those who simply cannot help depressive output due to their chemical imbalance? One can't simply think that away, or turn their own genes off...so what about them?
8:37 "...there is some physiological element that's contributing to the overall experience and we should have medical attention when that's the case."
Y'all Calm Down Proverbs 16:8 Better is a little with righteousness than great revenue without right.
I don't know if this helps but it helped me when I was experiencing depression and psychosis and was absolutely confidence that I was lost and it was to late for me to be saved. However I know I'm saved now and can enjoy verses about my eternity.
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Everyone actually can turn their genes on/off for different things it's called epigenetics. We are given the power of taking captive our thoughts and of having a sound mind. Epigenetics doesn't apply to everything (from what I understand) but it does apply for a lot. I see a lot in my family that I want to end with me. So even if I have sin, curses, genetic baggage, etc. I can be set free from sin through Jesus. He also took care of the curses and he is my healer. Sometimes we don't get the answers we want from God but I know he gives me the answers I need. Whatever is wrong Jesus can fix it.
After being diagnosed with postpartum depression, PTSD, OCD, and anxiety and panic attacks at the age of 26 after the birth of my first son I learned through work with my psychiatrist that I was most likely predisposed genetically to depression. I learned after years of therapeutic work, a healing journey, and my faith in Christ that the depression side of things comes from my mother's side of the family.
So, couple that predisposition with real world family issues and I was pretty much set up to fail at life. Yet, in time, God has helped me to see that there is a lot of brokenness around me and this was placed in my life NOT because He caused it to be (let's be clear on that).
I'm now free from deep depression, addictions, and haven't attempted suicide in 20 years. Yet, I still have struggles daily. Yet, when I see my struggle in the light of what God has done for me.
I know that He'll help me through it and I still attend a recovery group and have an accountability group because God helped me to put safe boundaries around my heart. I'm sharing my message of freedom because people need to know you don't have to be perfect to keep having the faith. He will walk with us through everything!
Gonna watch this everytime I feel depressed. THANK YOU FOR THIS
I was already having suicidal thoughts during a depressive episode but I had a dream that night where everyone was doing their own business, unmindful that their flesh was rotting away. I was surprised to see the muscles of my feet rotting away too. I thought, but I'm a Christian, this shouldn't be happening to me. Then Jesus appeared and brought a family of gospel singers back to life. They were entering a tunnel and I went with Him. But I could not step into the vortex. I felt that I have not yet lived my purpose. Jesus told me, your turn will come. I woke up crying and read the book of Revelations. It changed my perspective of desiring death over my life into longing for Jesus' 2nd coming ...He will wipe all of my tears away. He has a purpose for my life and His grace will carry me. Though I mourn, am afflicted, and am not comforted today, God gives me hope on the life to come. He absorbs my passions on the cross and by His wounds, I am healed.
Curly Spoon Designs So beautiful. I feel the same . Stay blessed.
Beautiful!!
Look at moment 6:20 in the video. That has helped me more than anything else. God bless
If a pastor disagrees with someone's diagnosis of anxiety and depression he should contact the patients doctor directly and discuss it with him instead of judging or harassing the patient behind the doctor's back. It's fair to say that most pastors do not even possess the Acumen to become doctors so they should not give unsolicited medical advice contrary to a patient's doctor.
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HIPPA laws would never allow that.
Evelyn Choy just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I know I have seen many of times where pastors lukewarm problems.
Evelyn Choy we all. have obligations to see if both sides of every situation has facts. How else can we help victims both pastors and chruch congregation victims? How can leaders having abusive habbits not matter when they are in charge of taking care of dozens of people?
Evelyn Choy ths size of the chruch shouldn't matter we all have obligations to help victims in chruch both pastors and the people. We should not tell them to just leave. we as Jesus Christ sons and daughters have obligations to help both pastors and the people who are victims. We should not turn a blind eye to pastors who are abused nor should we turn a blind eye to the people who are abuse. If we tell people or a pastor to leave because of abuse we are swiping the problem under the rug. Leaving a opening for more victims. You disagree?
Thank you thank you thank you !! I've convinced I'm not saved, I feel so sad, I feel so alone, I don't even understand what's going on anymore, even at the church , something feels off, I find it hard to find God in church I only find him alone and broken, I cnt find him in the world.