John Lennox: Scientific Discovery REVEALS God's Existence & REFUTES Atheism | Eric Metaxas on TBN
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- John Lennox joins Eric Metaxas to discuss how math and science point to an intelligent Creator, and how scientific discovery increasingly makes the case for God. Lennox refutes the idea that Christianity is not an evidence-based faith and how math reveals God's law and order. Don't miss this powerful episode of Eric Metaxas on TBN!
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0:00 Intro
0:26 Scientific Evidence Of Intelligent Design
4:45 Proof Beyond Reasonable Doubt
7:24 Christian Faith & Science
10:05 How Science Points Toward God
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Science is the strawman put up by those authorized to weigh-in as if Earth had gravity free zones & people desire leadership recommending travel with one foot in fantasyland.
Jesus is a parody of the Jewish Superman. Roman dark humor would blemish before nailing. Good News, as in military victory!
Tovia Singer informs me, the drinking of blood is like a hideous taboo in Jewish tradition, so it makes sense when Jesus is saying take this, yadda yadda.
The Messiah success is in Isiah 2, but it is nowhere repeated in the Christian bible.
Two cults divided by a common fantasyland vocabulary.
Cults are separated by a common fiction & it's vocabulary.
Freud wrote the antidote to Christianity is literacy.
Debates among religious cults only goes to show the saying god helps those helping themselves, is because we know there is no god.
These videos by people using cult literature vocabulary, are made to firm up those seeking travel as if best done with one foot in fantasyland.
We know nothing fails like prayer in a children's hospital, we know them by their works; those suggesting prayer.
Those advocating are the same; authorized by themselves to weigh-in as if Earth had gravity-free zones & magic.
They mock themselves for lack of quality-control.
Theologians grant doctorates missing the certification of a deity, unable to be acknowledged by everyone.
The Christians stuck their books on to some Jewish books, & the Mormons attached to them both, because the bar is not set high or low, but lacks existence.
I have a question.
These people don't read the comments much.
What is good or honorable about suggesting people travel best with one foot in fantasyland?
Since there is no god & religious beliefs have no quality-controls, aren't we selling snake oil?
Nothing fails like prayer in a children's hospital.
The Christians glued their books onto the Jewish books, the Mormons fastened theirs onto them both, thus proving Christians lack standards or quality-controls.
@@Stupidityindexstarting at 5:30 he flat out says you can't prove anything. You cant prove Napoleon lived either. Did you listen to it? Or go directly to comments to insult? These scientists are way smarter than you and me and are only telling us what the facts imply.
Thank you for the opportunity to ask a question! What do you think is the strongest scientific evidence/argument against naturalism? Thanks :)
For millennia, connotations of the word "God" have become so deteriorated. The terms Consciousness / Mind / Intelligence seem more relevant for these types of discussions. It seems that the concept of God is not experimentally testable. However, evidence for the effects of Consciousness / Mind / Intelligence are scientifically demonstrable.
The illogical, irrational, and unreasonable position of claiming that there is No Universal Mind / Consciousness / Intelligence (i.e. Atheism): The fallacy is the assumption that something is true (i.e. Universal Mind / Consciousness / Intelligence does not exist) unless proven otherwise. The Claimant making a negative claim (i.e. Universal Mind / Consciousness / Intelligence does not exist) cannot logically, rationally, and reasonably prove nonexistence. Because, for a Claimant to know that X does not exist would require the Claimant to possess 100% knowledge of all things with 100% certainty and 100% accuracy (i.e. omniscience).
Even mainstream secular scientists claim that approx. 95% of the Universe is still unknown (i.e. Dark Energy and Dark Matter). Of the remaining 5% of the Universe, only 0.0035% exists within the visible light spectrum which the human eye is capable of observing. Moreover, of all that is made of atoms and capable of being observed in this "Material" universe, 99.999999999% is actually empty space (i.e. "Non-material"). Therefore, there is much, much more that humanity does not know about the Universe and Reality than it does know. Based on just this information, the position of claiming to be Atheist is shown to be illogical, irrational and unreasonable.
*_“… Everyone who is seriously engaged in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that the laws of nature manifest the existence of a spirit vastly superior to that of men, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.”_* Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955), founder of modern physics (Theory of Relativity inter alia) and 1921 Nobel prize winner
*_“All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind (i.e. Observer). This mind is the matrix of all matter.”_* Max Plank (the Father of Quantum Physics)
Modern scientific discoveries in Genetics (i.e. biology) have shown that functional / coded / digital Information (i.e. DNA code) is at the core of All Biological Systems. Without functional / coded / digital information, there is No biology. The only known source (i.e. cause) in the universe that has been Observed (i.e. Scientific Method) in nature to be capable of producing functional / coded / digital information, such as that found even in the most primitive biological systems, is mind / consciousness / intelligence.
The fact that DNA / genes (biological coded information) exists at all shows that a Consciousness-'Intelligence-Mind' is involved in the initial introduction and subsequent propagation of living systems. Un-directed random material natural processes have never been observed in nature or experimentally demonstrated to be capable of producing Functional / Coded / Digital information such as that required for biological systems, even at the most primitive levels of biological life.
*_"Language: All Digital communications require a formal language, which in this context consists of all the information that the sender and receiver of the digital communication must both possess, in advance, in order for the communication to be successful."_* (Wikipedia: Digital Data) Inherent in DNA is language. Language is scientifically proven to be the product of only Mind/ Consciousness / Intelligence.
Laws of the Universe exist Independent of anyone's personal beliefs in the existence of the Laws of the Universe. Just as man-made laws govern society globally, Universal Laws govern the entire Universe. Un-directed random material natural processes have never been observed in nature or experimentally demonstrated to be capable of producing any form of laws. As scientifically confirmed, non-material laws are the product of only Mind / Consciousness / Intelligence.
The “World’s Most Notorious Atheist” and World’s Icon and Champion Advocate for Atheism for over 50 years, Antony Flew, finally concluded, *_“I now believe that the universe was brought into existence by an infinite Intelligence. I believe that this universe’s intricate laws manifest what scientists have called the Mind of God. I believe that life and reproduction originate in a divine Source. Why do I believe this, given that I expounded and defended atheism for more than a half century? The short answer is this: this is the world picture, as I see it, that has emerged from MODERN SCIENCE.”_*
1) Please identify the following in 1JOHN 4:1-3 (KJV):
A) The SPIRIT THAT IS OF GOD/PRO-CHRIST (1John 4:2).
B) The spirit of antichrist/false prophets (1John 4:3).
2) 1JOHN 4:1-3 is a COMMAND which must be abided on so as not to be deceived by antichrists/false prophets (1John 4:3) who are many in the world (1John 4::1).
If you read the “Molecular Biology of the Gene”, you would be completely blown away by the genius of God in the creation of all living things. I knew then, as a biologist, that God is real and He is so incredibly creative beyond our human imagination. That was the basis God used to build my faith as I reached out for His Word and began to know Him personally through His Son.
I was born into a family with a strong faith orientation, so I suppose I was primed to believe almost from birth.
Even so, I can tell you that the knowledge I gained as a biology major over 50 years ago did nothing but inform and buttress my faith; it had no effect in the direction of eroding my faith.
I never found the Urey-Miller experiments very convincing with regard to explaining the origin of life, and I never fully assented to the idea that evolution was driven by random mutations.
The utterly astounding discoveries re the complexity of life since my degree in 1972, most of which I am only peripherally acquainted if at all, only strengthen my faith that God exists, and that He is creatively awesome beyond description.
That’s awesome. It was through a Psychology class I had at college that I became firm in my faith!
@@charmed0009utter nonsense
@@charmed0009
You obviously have no understanding of what was just spoken about by Professor John Lennox.
@@mariahewitt9787John Lennox agrees, Islam is the only way and science proves God
I taught a middle school / high school church youth group many years ago. I had this young kid who had just started coming. He didn't engage often, but you could tell he was always listening. I asked the group once how they would describe the Trinity to their friends. Of course, I got a lot of silence and side glances as the kids were waiting to see who would be brave enough to give it a go. This same kid, who hadn't engaged much before, had a true "mic drop" moment. He said, "Well, it's like math. 1+1+1 is 3, but 1x1x1 is 1. Regardless, 1 is still 1. I (and presumably everyone else) was stunned. I hope Mr. Lennox sees this comment as I hope it will tickle his fancy with mathematics.
I think the main issue with atheism and evolutionary beliefs is that they lack humility so they struggle to get their heads around that there is a superior divine being that rules the universe!
I do not see the point.
@@cynic150 the point is the creator is a real person
@@cynic150 It's really quite simple - let me try. The Trinity is comprised of three persons in the Godhead. You have God the Father, Yah (1), God the Son, Jesus Christ of Nazareth (1) and God the Holy Spirit (1). Put them together and you might think you have three separate entities that work independently, and yet this brilliant young man has worked out that even though the three persons of the Godhead are separate, they are not independent of each other. 1x1x1 =1. The three are one.
@@xxEvangelineRxx BINGO!!
I was praying that John was still well, and hoping to hear him on CZcams again. I Love how he calmly and delightfully puts complex ideas into simple language. One of my favorites is that God isn't one of the gaps, but of the whole show. Many blessings to you both. ❤
1) My favorite is the LORD JESUS CHRIST/SON OF GOD -- the ONLY PERFECT/SINLESS MAN and the GREATEST and WISEST PHILOSOPHER who ever existed here on earth. His KNOWLEDGE, UNDERSTANDING, and WISDOM are written in the HOLY BIBLE (KJV).
2) As written:
"1 Cor. 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God."
GOD - is HEAD of JESUS CHRIST
JESUS CHRIST - is the HEAD of the man
MAN - is the HEAD of the woman
WOMAN - the HEAD is the MAN
3) This "woman"/Lea Pedrosa recognises the ONLY PERFECT/SINLESS MAN and the GREATEST and WISEST PHILOSOPHER who ever existed here earth as my/"woman" HEAD -- the LORD JESUS CHRIST/SON OF GOD (Mark 1:1, John 10:36)/MAN (John 8:40)/FLESH AND BONES (Luke 24:39) -- my/"woman" LORD, MASTER, and SAVIOUR/MAN -- my favorite and won't recognise anyone less.
Since math was invented by the Babylonians, Egyptians and Greeks, if math proves the existence of God it's most likely Zeus or Horus.
@@ji8044 Math can be true without the god of the gaps being accurate. By far the most evidence points to the God of the Bible. You are welcome to research this thoroughly and debunk the whole thing if your findings lead in that direction. Many people who sought to do that came out of it believers.
@@ji8044 Nobody created Math😂😅 Why are the new Atheists this mentally bankrupt?? How did the Egyptians or Babylonians create Math? Damn!! It's like saying someone created the laws of logic. Math has been there with or without humans. 1+1 has always equals two. There was not a time that 1+1=5. Bro you really need to read more. Quit making the kinda of argument that makes you look insane!
@@Netomp51 Katherine isn't an atheist from her post
John Lennox is a fantastic mathematician, a wonderful man and a faithful Christian.
All you are going to get with Lennox is his incessant spouting of the Christian dogma of exclusivity, and the superiority of his own unevidenced belief.
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp unevidenced? you are proof of GOD, the most sophisticated creation in the entire cosmos, a single cell in your body is more complex than New York city, your body processes more instructions per second than all the computers in the world combined and achieves this miraculous feat on a measly 20 watts of electricity. Complexity necessitates intellect, the higher the degree of complexity, the higher the level of intelligence required. YOU are orders of magnitude more complex than all technology designed, engineered, and built my mankind but you wilfully go against your every day observations that complexity requires intelligent input, in favour of unfathomably complex does not require intelligent design, so in your mind a smart phone requires design, engineering, and high levels of knowledge in many areas, but you, who are infinitely more complex, does not?
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wpAnd what do you have to offer anyone?
Sit down. Shut up.
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wpMay you too, find Jesus.
Dennis Merwood The Resurrection of Jesus the Christ is an historical fact. Truth, not "dogma." You will bow your knee to Jesus and say "Jesus is Lord" on Judgment Day just like everyone else.
Dr. John Lennox is one of my favorite people on planet earth
Diorio , may I ask a question ? Has he helped you get closer to Jesus ? 🙏🏼🪖 Sincerely a neighbor.
Each to their own. 😳
@@Thruevangelisteyes Why do you ask ?
@@runelund5600 I hope that if you are a believer , those you listen to will help you in your daily walk. And I hope that one of our goals is to help others in their walk between here and Heaven. Why do you ask ?
Favourite*
John Lennox is one of the very best minds of our generation. Wish he was my Grampa.
🤣🤣🤣 You sad sack! 🤣🤣🤣
@@crispincoque In the last day God will take the chaff and the weeds to be burned in an eternal furnace, whereas His wheat and grain He will take into his barn.
Your salvation is up to you.
@@sonusanctiYou don't know that your god exists.
@@crispincoque Well, either you've been watching the wrong videos or you choose to deny all the circumstantial evidences.
You are free to choose. It is also my solemn duty to warn you, the consequences of our choices, either way, are eternal.
Or you can take historical facts narrated in the Bible and refute them if you can. The birth of Jesus, for instance. Has any scholar refuted his birth by a virgin with no biological father? None whatsoever.
We all believe the Devil is real. If he is then obviously God is real too. Good and evil, night and day, life and death, visible and invisible, heaven and hell, male and female, reality is binary.
Every soul is precious to God. He will never refuse a contrite heart. Turn to Jesus and ask his forgiveness and he will. He can heal our souls and renew our spirit, all we have to do is choose Jesus as our Savior. Read the Bible with an open mind beginning with John, and be sorry for your sins.
@@sonusanctiThere is no evidence for your god, circumstantial or otherwise. Spit out the Kool-Aid and try again.
"Newton- when he discovered the law of gravitation, didn't say 'oh I've got a law of gravity, I don't need God.' No. He said, 'what a brilliant God that does it that way.'" Amen! ❤👌
300 years ago it was a problem not to be a "believer"... I wonder what he would say nowadays...
@@maartenhappel9014 cope
WHAT IS GRAVITY?
GRAVITY is something created by GOD. The basic idea is one can feel and understand something exist without the need to look for information from our 5 senses. Learn to read the SIGNS, its all around us.
Many people including Muslims forget that the early scholars of Islam were indeed most critical of the concepts that Islam is founded upon. They have already dealt with variations of these same questions such as the Gravity. Gravity is a label we have given to a force that is for all intents and purposes completely and absolutely elusive to all of our senses and equipment. We only know it exists by observing the behavior of everything it influenced.
The vestibular organs of our inner ear send gravity directly, but also as a deviation from the vertical and self-motion. Also without this sense one won't have balance and will be falling all of the time.
Indeed, atheism isn't a new thing but its trendy today. Atheism lows one to give into your personal wants without holding oneself accountable.
@@zainiabdullah621 Without holding oneself accountable?????????? You are only "a good boy" because of the 24x7 watching eye of god? I like te be good because I WANT TO BE! not because I'd be burning in some hell for all eternity.
And gravity is the pull of the earth on everything. Like the tides are because of the pull of the moon. And your ears have small tubes with fluid that sense what direction your head is tilted. And that fluid works because of Gravity....
Small question.... Do you believe in a pink unicorn?
he probably liked having a career.....
Love this man John Lennox , powerfull Christian Apologist for GOD . He’s one of my mentors I hope to meet him one day . 🙏🙏🙏
These 2 men did not say anything to show any evidence for their God. What a bunch of B.S. planes are developed by engineers using mathematics.
an example of abiogenesis? The Miller-Urey experiment is an example of Abiogenesis since these scientists were able to produce fundamental organic compounds for living beings from inorganic substances under laboratory conditions.
So thankful that you had Professor Lennox back on, and actually in the studio! Always a blessing to hear him.
👍 Mark , why do we ever doubt the ability of our God ? He is the Great Helper. 🙏🏼🎶
I love this man's lectures, interviews, politeness, knowledge. Love him. He's the religious version of Jordan Pterson for me.
I have only recently found John Lennox but he’s like coming home after being on the front line.
Blessings n appreciation from Sydney Australia.
I only discovered him recently too- hope he can be more widely heard!
Always enjoy hearing John Lennox.
I pray God preserve John till the very end. He is a rare light in this dark era
@@adejokeloyeNo, he's deepening the darkness of this dark era. 🌑
Proverbs 9:10 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding."
Deuteronomy 20:10-14 “Murder, rape and pillage.
What a wonderful god he is 🤦🏻
You must be off of her head to believe a single word of that book.
@@Sorted906 did you read verses 10 and 11? It's not like they were a bunch of savages. Besides that, during those times the enemies of Israel destroyed their cities and killed everyone if possible as well. Check out the moabite stone.
Here are some prophecies that became true:
1. These talk about Israel being gathered from the nations they were scattered in 70 AD by the Roman army because of their bad behavior (Luke 13:33, 34 and Matthew 24:2):
Ezek 11:17: "Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even gather you from the people, and assemble you out of the countries where ye have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel."
Ezek 20:41-42: "I will accept you with your sweet savor, when I bring you out from the people, and gather you out of the countries wherein ye have been scattered; and I will be sanctified in you before the heathen. And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall bring you into the land of Israel, into the country for the which I lifted up mine hand to give it to your fathers."
Am 9:14-15: "And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God."
Zeph 3:19-20: "Behold, at that time I will undo all that afflict thee: and I will save her that halteth, and gather her that was driven out; and I will get them praise and fame in every land where they have been put to shame. At that time will I bring you again, even in the time that I gather you: for I will make you a name and a praise among all people of the earth, when I turn back your captivity before your eyes, saith the LORD."
Zech 8:7-8: "Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will save my people from the east country, and from the west country; And I will bring them, and they shall dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God, in truth and in righteousness."
2. Isaiah 53 talks about the Lord Jesus and what will happen to Him
Besides this, the Bible teaches the wonderful plan of God, not what you hear in churches:
1. Salvation for all:
Gen 22:18: "And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice."
Luk 2:10-11: "And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord."
Acts 3:19-21: "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began."
2. There is no hell, death is like sleep because you aren't conscious in death and people will be raised from death:
Lam 3:31-33: "For the Lord will not cast off forever: But though he cause grief, yet will he have compassion according to the multitude of his mercies. For he doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men."
Eccl 9:10: "Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest."
God said the penalty for sin is death, not eternal torture. Satan said you won't die. Who do we trust?
Rom 6:23: "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Gen 3:1,4: "Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? … And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:"
3. There is no trinity
1Tim 2:5: "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;"
John 17:3: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."
1Cor 8:6: "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him."
Eph 4:5-6: "One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all."
Gal 3:20: "Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one."
If you have questions I will do my best to answer them.
P.S: science only finds more and more proof about the existence of a Creator (Universal constants, DNA, the great pyramid)
@@Sorted906 You should look into the context. And also keep reading.
16 However, in the cities of the nations that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you must not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 For you must devote them to complete destruction -the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites-as the LORD your God has commanded you, 18 so that they cannot teach you to do all the detestable things they do for their gods, and so cause you to sin against the LORD your God.
Context: These people are complete savages whose beliefs will never change (as God is all-knowing) so they must not be allowed to permeate the World. Do you think Hitler, Mao, Stalin, etc were bad? These people make them look like Ghandi. God didn't want them to spread like a disease to humanity. Imagine if Aztecs were still practicing today. Sacrificing children every day so the sun would rise in the morning. You think that would be a good thing?
@@starlite5097 As the Israelites were the agressors, I can´t blame the Kanaaites to defend themselves. But it was Jehwe who promised land owned by others to his chosen people, so he is the main culprit. Quite an asshole god in my opinion. You know, I have some morale standards.
Amen
Dr Lennox is such a treasure
Such an excellent interview, Eric is such a brilliant host! I really like John's common sense approach here. Thanks so much for this video!
Thanks Eric for giving John plenty of time and room to speak into this…well done giving him preference.
👍 Mr. or Miss. Practical, May I ask you a question ? Will any of that excellence move you closer to Jesus ? 🙏🏼🎶 Sincerely a neighbor.
Hi neighbour, my name is Samuel. I was simply saying I appreciate Eric's work as an interviewer here, as I also appreciate his books. Yes, I do think his work (and John's) draws people closer to Jesus.
@@Practical.Wisdom Samuel , good to meet you. 🙏🏼🎶Hope we stay in touch. Ps - Keep using that wisdom. Prov. 3:15
There wasn't too much common sense here, tbh.
He opens with a God-of-the-gap argument, only to dismiss the greek gods 5 minutes later because they are gods-of-the gaps.
He names DNA as a piece of evidence that points towards a creator by comparing it to language even though language itself actually evolved. No one sat down and said to themselves: "Ok, that's called a tree, that's called a house, that's called the sky etc." The sounds our ancestors made evolved alongside them and turned into more and more complex sounds and later words, as their brains grew.
He wants to follow the evidence where it leads. That's commendable, that's the right thing to do. However, I'm unaware of a single piece of evidence pointing towards a Christian God specifically. There is evidence that could be evaluated as pointing towards a creator, but not what kind of creator, and usually these pieces of evidence could just as well have a naturalistic explanation, if viewed from a different angle. So how is him believing in a christian god "following the evidence where it leads"? It's just as biased as desperately clinging to a naturalistic explanation.
"Christianity is an evidence-based faith." Aha. Sure. Example?
The painting analogy also was extraordinarily flimsy.
Really the only really sensible things said here were that
a) science and belief in acreator don't have to be sperated: I as an agnostic don't do it. I think it's perfectly reasonable to accept that a creator of some sort has caused the Big Bang. However, a Christian God cannot exist. It's impossible.
b) the explanation about the ambiguity of proof. That was spot on.
Wonderful video . I really like listening to John Lennox. God is the finisher of all science and everything we study, whether in the universe or on earth, was created by God.
My ex brother in law used to research proteins at UCL and told me that the more he studied them the more complex their make up became. He doubted that humans would ever get to know exactly how they work.
We may never be capable of understanding the universe, and yet John Lennox claims that his god is proven by our ability to understand the universe ... 🤔
@@crispincoque That's literally the point. The more we think we understand, the more we understand that we don't.
@@arcturus4762So the universe is unintelligible to us, and his claim falls apart ... although I can't see how it was supposed to prove his god in the first place ... 🤷
@@crispincoque I'm not saying it's unintelligible, I'm saying that the more we understand it the less sense it makes. This is simply a scientific principle. It either "proves" God or it proves that we're all really f*cking stupid
@@arcturus4762Your thinking process, and therefore the conclusions you reach, are nonsensical. When we understand something better, it makes *more* sense, not less. I never heard of a 'scientific principle' stating the opposite to that. And Lennox's god existing would not prevent humans from being 'stupid'. Those are mutually exclusive propositions.
Always love when Eric and Prof. Lenox discuss about God, Science, and Human.
Thankyou Eric for giving us such quality guests. Lennox is a warrior for God he can take on anyone,
👍 And so can you Samuel , remember who our Helper is. We just heard more about Him. 🙏🏼🎶
No, he can sit in anyone's presence while talking nonsense. 💩 Hardly the same thing.
@@crispincoque How do you quantify nonsense?
@@tinfacesfulYou mean like on a scale of 1 to 10?
@@crispincoque No, how do you decide what is nonsense?
An excellent interview! Thanks for posting.
Absolutely loved this interview, fantastic! I've just subscribed. Praise Almighty God!!!
@@charmed0009 I can assure you that I will never be involved in any way whatsoever with islam or any religion other than Christianity! Please repent of your false belief and turn to your Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. He is The Way,The Truth and The Life. I praise and worship Almighty God!!!
(Psalm 150)
1Praise the Lord!
Praise God in his sanctuary;
praise him in his mighty heavens!
2Praise him for his mighty deeds;
praise him according to his excellent greatness!
3Praise him with trumpet sound;
praise him with lute and harp!
4Praise him with tambourine and dance;
praise him with strings and pipe!
5Praise him with sounding cymbals;
praise him with loud clashing cymbals!
6Let everything that has breath praise the Lord!
Praise the Lord!
@@dan_gocavs4110 AMEN
Great interview. Did catch a couple of your other shows by a YT algorithm suggestion.
This interview showed up too in my feed and led me liking, subscribing and pushing the bell icon! 👍🏻❤️
John Lennox ministry is one of the most sincere and giagantic in the world. Converting the most sophisticated atheist to christ with fact and logic, not emotions and faith.
Around the 8:00 mark Mr. Lennox starts talking about the definition of proof and how it has culturally evolved to only include mathematical proofs. In his book "The Psychology of Totalitarianism" Matthew Desmet discusses this change. I love Eric's phrase "we have to redeem the ground in the culture". That's a key observation. So many words and even ideas have been redefined, co-opted, and made powerless that if we are to have these discussions we need to return to the original definitions. When a word means different things to two people in a conversation or debate, there is no communication.
I love listening to Professor John Lennox.
Always an interesting discussion.
👍 May I ask a question ? Has he helped turn any of your listening into action ? 🙏🏼🎶 Sincerely a neighbor.
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@@joverstreet24 Jover , I hope some of that action is prayer. And I hope some is telling others about Jesus. How would you answer that ? Sincerely your brother in Christ.
@@joverstreet24 jjover , I hope all is well with you. Psalm 145:19 Rod
John Lennox, what a great mind.
All you are going to get with Lennox is his incessant spouting of the Christian dogma of exclusivity, and the superiority of his own unevidenced belief.
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wpYou have the wrong mindset concerning God. You're expecting God to reveal Himself to YOU? Not gonna happen. It doesn't work that way. You seek after HIM. That's how it works. God is not obligated to reveal Himself to anyone. But there is a promise. If you truly seek Him with a sincere, honest and pure heart, He WILL reveal Himself to you. See, true Christians aren't Christians because of blind faith or intellectual belief. True Christians are Christians because they seeked after God with all of their heart. Wanting to love Him. To know Him. To serve Him. To submit everything to Him 100%. That's why we have a relationship with Him. Because He revealed Himself to us. I think the issue with most Atheists (not all but most) isn't a "lack of evidence" thing. I think the main issue is because they don't WANT God to exist. They simply don't WANT to submit to God if He is real. That would mean they would have to give up a lot of the things they are doing that is wrong. Let me ask you a question, if Christianity was true, would you be a Christian? If God were to appear to you in front of your face in a dramatic bolt of lighting and said "I'm God. I exist. Here I am." What would you do with that intellectual belief? Would you sincerely be willing to give up your sins and your way of living for God's Ways? To serve Him and love Him for the rest of your life? Or would your attitude be like "Wow. I was wrong. You really do exist God." Then just go on with your life and operate as if He doesn't exist? If your response would be the second option, then by no means is God going to reveal Himself to you. He doesn't care about someone's intellectual belief. He wants your HEART. He wants a RELATIONSHIP.
@@joeturner9219 The longer word salad you type Joe - tells me that you are trying to convince yourself that your Imaginary 'God" exists! You are not sure. But in your ignorance, you WANT him to exist. Just like Mother Teresa confessed she did on her death bed.
When inventing a "God", the most important thing is to claim it is invisible, inaudible, and imperceptible in every way. Otherwise, people will become skeptical when it appears to no one, is silent and does nothing.
A man of science reads many books and knows he must learn more, while a Christain believer partly reads one very old book with unknown authors, that has been edited 100's times, and thinks he knows everything!
Religion is just an evolution of superstition. Any critical thinker can see that it makes far more sense that all religions are just configments of man's wild imaginations There have been 100's of "Gods". All man made.
Christians every day base their religion on superstition and, with no evidence for the existence of their "God", never ask themselves "Why is my "God" real when all the others before them weren't?"
I contend that you are an atheist just like me. I just believe in one fewer "God" than you do Joe.
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible "Gods", only then will you understand why I dismiss yours.
Think about it my friend! Take care.
And also, the evidence found in archaeological science is overwhelmingly Biblical and historical evidence that the Bible is true, so it is NOT JUST "there is a God" but it tells us WHICH God it is.
What about the aspect of the Bible where god promotes the use of rape, pillaging and murder?
I wouldn't say overwhelming archaeological evidence. The further back we go the less we have. Like Exodus, we have no proof of Moses or a large Exodus, Atheists and Chiristians agree, watch Sean McDowell. We aren't even sure who the pharaoh was. No proof of Samson. No proof of Solomon. No proof of other biblical characters unless it references external rulers like Cyrus, Xerxes, Nebuchadnezzar, Senacharib... but the associated biblical characters aren't found. For example, Cyrus doesn't give credit to YHWH but to Marduk instead on the Cyrus Cylinder but a biblical character was supposed to have such influence on him. Then we have sooner problems like the census during Jesus birth. Overwhelming, No. Some that do correspond nicely, yes.
Also just in case, if you're thinking Ron Wyatt he was debunked as fraudulent. Christian sites like Answer in Genesis don't find him "credible" as they nicely put it. I think Sean McDowell's channel referenced the false findings; I don't know if they mention his Ron's name.
@Sorted906 forget it happened
What archaeological evidence in particular?
We need more of John c Lennox
Clone him then. Godspeed.
@@sircorn4248 clone him ok that's vary Christian thinking
I LOVE Dr. James Tour and Dr. Lennox!!! They are WONDERFUL MEN of MATH and SCIENCE and they are wonderful CHRISTIAN MEN of FAITH!!
Haven't watched you for awhile. Love the new content!!
It was my physics class that took me from pure faith to evidence based faith when I was young…
and what do you make or Heb 11: ?
@@defaultHandle1110 It’s the definition of faith.
👍 Now David , load those tangible stones up and run to the fight. We need you in this. 🙏🏼🪖
There is no such thing as evidence based faith. Faith is what you use to believe is something without evidence. If you have evidence, you don’t need faith.
@@blacksilus7419 My faith in God is based on evidence as good as your faith in getting on an airplane and it will get you there. Like baskets don't weave themselves the elements didn't arrange themselves into DNA, it having 215,000 times the information storage density, a 4 letter code compared to the zero's and one's and uses 100,000,000 times less energy than the computers scientists are using to examine DNA with. yt: dna as data storage HEB 11:1-4 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. (2) For by it the elders obtained a good testimony (3) By faith we understand that the world's were framed by the word of God, so that the things that are seen were not made of things which are visible. Psalm 139:14 I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made, marvelous are Your works, and that my soul knows very well. All 37 trillion cells of my body bear witness to this.
When I took A&P courses while studying health science in college, I was blown away by how God designed the human body.
@@geoffschnoogs6888 Ironic how you love my capacity to be blown away by our awesome God!
yeah, if you eat wrong you can suffocate as food or water go into your lungs....great design.
@@geoffschnoogs6888 No, the body was degenerated by Sin. The body has no reason why it should ever die according to Scientific facts.
@@geoffschnoogs6888It's ironic indeed. Every little thing in our body is a result of evolution, including all the mistakes. It's a shame indoctrination is so strong that reasonable, functioning human beings become blind to the world around them and can only look through the narrow-minded perspective of some god.
@@geoffschnoogs6888who are you that God should've made you with a perfect body?
I would love to hear more about Johns understanding of mathematics and God , what sort of mathematics John enjoys and why? In one of his future talks.
Where can I hear the whole conversation? I tried the app, and it ends before it is actually over on both platforms, it seems.
The more science discovers the more it reveals the existence of a Creator. Biblical prophecy reveals that Creator is a personal God...the one and only God.
Our creator reigns over all molecules ido believe this.😊❤
Pasteur said: A bit of science distances one from God, but much science nears one to Him.
When you get into talking after flipping out, there is no end to the interpretations you "find" in the bible, or in any other book, so now this guy is Absolutely correct about anything, and blabs on
I’ve never heard of John Lennox but it was interesting to note the subtle way he referred to the fallen angels mating with humans resulting in Greek & Roman gods as prime evil chaos. It’s subtle but an important part of our past that is too often deliberately ignored by Christian thought leaders
That's because it's fiction.
@@deliberativediscipleWhat makes you believe that?
@@drewnight3944 Because the simple and relevant truth of God's word is willfully substituted for fantastical human mythology. "Don't have sex with a demon" is not a moral lesson taught by Scripture. Don't intermarry with unbelievers IS a moral lesson taught repeatedly. Guess which one is most frequently ignored by believers today?
@@deliberativedisciple These lessons don't contradict one another. Atheism is the cover for the luZiferianism (luzifer = the light barer = the "enlightener").
Because of mating of the fallen angels with human women - mating with rebels who went against God and because of growing human wickedness - all sorts of it, God sent a flood.
If you dig little deeper, you'll find that fallen angels taught man various crafts, medicine, agriculture, science, astronomy & so on, and my guess is they even built the pyramids and all the other wonders whose origin we do not know, but were too huge for a man to build, and that corresponds with Greek, Roman, Egyptian mythology, because all of their gods and demi gods had powers over some part of nature or science.
For example, Diana[a] is a goddess in Roman and Hellenistic religion, primarily considered a patroness of the countryside, hunters, crossroads, and the Moon. In Egyptian mythology, Ptah was both a creator deity and the god of architects and artisans. One of the fallen angel is Buer - a chairman of the underworld who teaches man ethics, logic, and philosophy. Focalor, a fallen angel who commands the sea and the winds, which is Neptune in Greek mythology.
It's not God who supressed these information, humans did - and I think it's because of gaining/retaining power and authority over people.
(Fallen angels had higher knowledge that God gave them, and that's why God's punishment towards them was so immediate and swift - meaning, we are surrounded with so much evil because mankind is stupid as f** and that's why God is patient.)
@@deliberativedisciple actually, it’s part of the biblical worldview. Genesis 6 and a big part of the reason that the hearts of men were so cold and evil.
My thoughts on What is Sin was not to prove God exists but to explain why people refuse to acknowledge He exists.
Fantastic interview. Wonderful show, Eric. You are a brilliant host. Really... The best!
Oh... By the way...Franky Five Angels says hello! 😊
Love your show!
Great conversation. I definitely want to hear more.
He isnt falsely humble, he IS humble. Falsely humble gives the impression he is being false, which obviously wasnt your intention.
It doesn’t matter where computational Irreducibility leads…attaching it to genesis, is only attaching to metaphor…Pure enlightenment teaches us this- it’s amazing how so many Bible scholars are completely unenlightened- trapped in a thought bubble of narrow unenlightened dogma..
John Lennox has me totally hooked and I’m so thankful for his simplicity of explaining Bible truths.
Science is a part of the creation of God, therefore it declared the glory of God. Unfortunately many worship it as a god.
It’s nothing more than re-fried paganism. Worshipping the creation rather than the Creator.
the story of Antony flew who was perhaps the most famous and influential atheist during his time who came to believe in God few years before his death is really an astounding proof of God's existence.
if only atheits right now will follow where the evidence leads them,they should do like what flew did.
@@user-ih4wq9yt3s True. :-) The only evidence is that good people do real nasty things BECAUSE of that religion. Good people that are Atheist have no "religious" guidance and therefore no need to do thoe nasty things.... Science flies you to the moon. Religion into skyscrapers....
you have a low bar for proof, I guess.
Thank God for John Lennox
i would love to attend a John Lennox lecture
Praise the Lord God Almighty. The earth is full of His glory ☦️❤️🙏 🌈
Science is the best intellectual mechanism humanity has ever discovered for discovering and aligning ourselves with the physical laws of our universe. Recognizing and aligning ourselves with the moral truth of our universe is the job of religion. Both the physical laws and moral laws are manifestations of a transcendent reality commonly known as God. Failure to align ourselves with both sets of laws causes untold human suffering.
A transcendent reality known as God? Which God? Explain his or her attributes to me. And tell me why a belief in this God is necessary to living a moral life.
Oh and while you are at it, tell us the morality of forbidding shellfish and mixed garments but not slavery.
I would add misuse of science has led to manifold chaos, death and destruction...and false religion has caused the equally tragic obfuscation of truth.
@@markkozlowski3674everyone has their own morals...so in that sense everyone leads a moral life. What matters is, are your morals aligned with the ruling authority of the universe? That's the right question.
@@andersandersen6295your personal morals are useless as a gauge of God's righteousness. It's the other way around. God is the authority in the universe, and you are a criminal and moral failure in his kingdom.
I'm happy I came across John in past videos. What a wonderful person to listen to, talk.
I wish he was my neighbor lol
Most scientist that I know, the ones that actually has some experience working with it, and not just posing about science, are faithful christians. They easily understand that objective reality and subjective reality doesn’t conflict but goes together. Orthodox christians has captured this understanding the best.
then you live in a bubble
You can not love John Lennox he's explanations is so uplifting and spells out a true follower of God wish I can an opportunity sit down with him and have a Jesus conversation with him really love this man off God. I know God has blessed him with all the knowledge which we so need today. Blessings
God give us, heart, mind, brain and knowledge to study science, l believe this, Some things are very important and useful in science, but somethings are very unusual and dengerous, thank you very much for good advice,
Beautifully explained 🙏🏻
Metaxas' book on miracles is terrific, as are the books of his fine guest.
God bless John Lennox!
Two of my most special men in the sphere of thinking. Thank you both 🐠
Abide to to the COMMAND in 1JOHN 4:1-3 so as not to be deceived by antichrists/false prophets (1John 4:3) who are many in the world (1John 4:1).
@@leapedrosa4475These two are wonderful Christians who walk with Jesus in a fearless and authentic manner. To whom are you aiming your comment?
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"Prov. 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."
1) I'm always BIBLICAL in my discernment in formulating the TRUTH as guided by the quoted verse above.
2) What you stated is absolutely devoid of biblical references; hence, just your opinion from the figment of your imagination. I don't adhere to such words, again as guided by the quoted verse above.
3) I recognise people by DOCTRINES, not by personality recognition.
4) And 1JOHN 4:1-3 (KJV) is a COMMAND which must be abided on so as not to be deceived by antichrists/false prophets who are many in the world.
4) I know the doctrines of the speakers here and the doctrines of the world.
5) And based on the TEST/COMMAND in 1JOHN 4:1-3, the speakers here and the world fell into the category of antichrists/false prophets (1John 4:3)/deceivers/deceived (2John 1:5-7) who are many in the world (1John 4:1).
6) If you disagree, then abide to the COMMAND 1JOHN 4:1-3 by identifying the following:
A) The SPIRIT THAT IS OF GOD/PRO-CHRIST (1John 4:2).
B) The spirit of antichrist/false prophets (1John 4:3).
7) I repeat, 1 JOHN 4:1-3 is a COMMAND which must be abided on so as not to be deceived by antichrists/false prophets who are many in the world (1John 4:1, 3).
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Why the fish tho
Sometimes I think that people such as yourselves, do not grasp how important you are in sustaining the faith of those of us who are troubled by Atheists who appear to be so clever and persuasive. Thank you and God continue to bless you.
It is not us atheists who are clever and persuasive. We only ask for evidence to help us recover our lost faith.
There's plenty of evidence. There's no evidence to suggest anything can ever be created from nothing. Therefore having faith in the atheistic declaration of no God is the illogical one
@@conor9109 There may well be plenty of evidence of a god, just none that has ever been presented in public to anyone. As you say, there is no evidence that anything can ever be created from nothing, which shoots down the biblical god. Therefore having faith in any religious dogma is illogical. We atheists have no faith in any declaration or position, only skepticism. We have verified trust in many tangible evidence-backed scientific discoveries, just not a god.
@@stevepierce6467skepticism is not a default ontological position, especially in the face of the overwhelming existence of an information in the universe. Sometimes I think the concept of what information is is the crux of the issue, and not well explained by the people resenting the intelligent design arguments.
Information is as much a reality as matter and energy; in fact these three always appear together. Materialists don’t understand what information is basically.
Where is the so-called overwhelming information that leads to your bible god???
Excellent discussion
LETS COVER THE EARTH WITH HIS GLORY. HIS PRESENCE, NO SIN IN MIND AND HEART!
Lets get you to a doctor and find time for a lobotomy.
Two of my favorite men! Thanks, Eric 👍🏽
Right after Nick Fuentes
@@virtualpilgrim8645 you are unhappy. When you discover the love God has for you - you will change. Blessings Pilgrim with numbers
@@cwp2614 I am a Christian. So is Nick. Thanks anyway, though. Blessings...
Blessed are the ones who believe and didn't see...
It clears things up a bit for me to know that we are in a spiritual war and that our enemies manifest as negative, destructive thoughts, beliefs, feelings and desires that we can reject in the Spirit and Name of Jesus. In addition, we can embrace positive, constructive thoughts, beliefs, feelings and desires if we choose to.
Debating the concept of ‘0’ often catches them out. It’s fundamental. God bless. I also was led to Him by my brain, heart and supporting loving upbringing in a Christian society. Defend Christian society!
if you were led to God it was God Himself that led you there
May GOD bless you both.
Subscribed!
What causes rain ? As always, the best answer is in the Bible.
"The windows of Heaven were opened and the rain was upon the earth".
It kinda makes sense and is easy to understand (Genesis 7:11)
Great to hear reasonable minds address this.
Can you refer me to the video you're talking about?
Proof is only needed for the unbeliever. Gods word same today as it was 5000 years ago. Don’t need science to show me the Glory of Gods creation. I have 3 sons and that alone is a miracle of His creation. Romans 1 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.”
Every matter, every element is living
Thanks Eric
As an Orthodox Christian, and a scientist, I am convinced that God exists.
No Cosmologist, Physicist,or Astronomer will ever be able to disprove the existence of God.
Even Stephen Hawking near the end of his life acknowledged the existence of God.
There was a video on CZcams where Stephen Hawking said to Richard Dawkins "why are you obsessed with God?"
What is your point. Nobody can prove anything does not exist. Can you proof pink, yellow spotted elephants do not exist. The real question is can you provide any evidence that god exists. Stephen Hawking did not acknowledge the existence of God.
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Stephen Hawking was an atheist.
Near the end of his life he acknowledged the strong possibility of God’s existence.
This acknowledgement made taking into account his life’s work.
Now, that is a remarkable man who would admit that.
@@deantsar6246 Is what Hawking said on youtube or anywhere..I can find it.
And no theists will ever be able to prove the existence of God.
All the atheists better figure it out soon. The Lord is almost here.
It's already been figured out.
The atheists just aren't smart enough.
That's why over 64% of Nobel prize winners are religious.
Amen 🙏 brother John 13:48
Scientific acceptance involves evidence-based claims supported by empirical data and rigorous testing. Philosophical arguments for the existence of God, including those presented by John Lennox or others, may be well-regarded in philosophical and theological circles, but they are not subject to scientific validation or acceptance.
It's essential to differentiate between science and philosophy/theology when discussing these topics. While both fields contribute to our understanding of the world, they employ different methodologies and address different types of questions. The acceptance of John Lennox's arguments would depend on the audience and the context in which they are being evaluated (philosophical or theological discussions, for instance) rather than scientific consensus.
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool."
Voltaire
I don't believe in religion. I believe in God. God didn't begin. He has always been.
Our awareness of God has always been there.
Religion is man's attempt to understand God through our own limited capacity and of course it will fail. But Jesus came to do away with religion and demonstrate God in action, God's love for us, and help us to see ourselves for what we are- flawed people who need God in our lives because without him we are hopelessly wandering in the dark.
There is nothing foolish or scoundrelous about Jesus. It's called love in action.
@@blindcuckoo6680 If without evidence you assume God is eternal, then why not save a step and assume the changing universe is eternal? The big bang is the expansion of existing condensed matter. Nobody knows if the changing cosmos is eternal or created. When we don't know something we should be honest & admit it instead of reaching a conclusion, out of arguments from ignorance, that a conscious invisible creator did it just bc we desperately need a conclusion to end our discomfort with uncertainty.
@@blindcuckoo6680 Please try to answer this simple question honestly.
*FACT:* You thank your creator for giving life to you, and you also thank your creator for giving life to animals for you to take their lives and eat them. *SIMPLE QUESTION:* Are you unable to see how theologians have duped you to believe in an imaginary conscious creator by fooling you to arrogantly ignore your hypocrisy and narcissism?? No offense, just asking.
@@AtamMardesPsalm 14:1 the fool says in his heart: " there is no God"
@@AtamMardes If God is God, who he claims to be, he is eternal. That is his claim throughout the Old Testament and Jesus' claims in the New Testament.
I am actually vegetarian (because I have fundamental issues with the way we farm animals, destroy the oceans by factory fishing, create huge welfare issues for farmed fish etc). However, it is clear in the Bible that the animals and plants of the world were given for humans to rule over, and steward. But God intended that to be done responsibly with care for the environment (stewardship)
Man was not created as just another animal, we are the pinnacle of creation, made in God's likeness. There is nothing narcissistic about that.
In fact, the atheistic society we live in is far more narcissistic than the average Christian- a society where "my needs", "my sexuality", "my rights", "my luxury holiday/car/ house/ possessions/clothes/ plastic surgery etc" "my desire to sleep with whoever I want , when I want" (providing they agree), all these trump the needs of those people starving, those people who are exploited making the expensive clothes in slave labour, those people whose environments are being destroyed by our need to eat meat whenever we feel like it, those kids whose parents divorce because when you take away God from a marriage, there is nothing to keep it together except a promise which has no consequences if we break it.
So Christians I would contend are almost certainly not the biggest narcissists in society. It is the secular world.
Most of the early hospitals, schools, charities, childrens homes etc were originally set up by Christians, and Christians I am guessing will contribute far more to charity than the average person.
Christians are not perfect, but if you take God out of the world, aren't you just creating a society where having dubious morals has no consequence, because as long as you don't break the law, it really doesn't matter how you live your life?
Still waiting on that evidence
Not gonna happen....
It's been here for ages. Check DNA.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 deoxyribonucleic acid therefore god? Also deoxyribonucleic acid is spontaneously generated through natural processes just an FYI.
What a briliant mind Prof.Jhon Lennox has ! I admire his arguements against atheists who see those believers foolish and belivers of castle in the air. Appreciation from Ethiopia
Thank you for your comments. I'm a Christian who hold a Creationist Worldview. While in college in the mid-1960s I watched a presentation by Whitcomb & Morris, authors of the Genesis Flood. This and other of their works have convinced me that a theistic view of creation is the only acceptable one.
Thank you so much for this beauriful family in Christ out Lord and Savior❤
(6:04) _I had no mathematical proof that the jumb ojet that brought me to New York would get me there. But I trusted my life on it because I had enough evidence_
-John Lennox
To bolster my faith I always say, "you go first."
Someone did, otherwise it couldn’t be built.
That's a moronic statement. Lennox not knowing or understanding the engineering doesn't mean the engineering doesn't exist.
This guy is clearly an irrational twit.
Imagine if there was just a fraction of that amount of evidence for a god.
@@roscius6204 there is none, and they know it.
I begged God to help me and they said they would help me get on the Eric Metaxas show, I was given gifts and abilities, enlightenment, a mind that corrects me
Who are “they”?
what appeared to be Mary, Jesus and the Father, trained me to be a holy person, its like I left reality, but I wanted the truth so I was given a mind that corrects me, but reality cannot be figured out, people believe they are being visited by Gods but they are really being Mind Jacked
Y’all should look into “nanometric functions of bioenergy” by paolo and alexandra correa for a novel, energetic, microfunctionalist ontology.
Modern Quantum Physics has shown that reality is based on probability:
A statistical impossibility is defined as “a probability that is so low as to not be worthy of mentioning. Sometimes it is quoted as 1/10^50 although the cutoff is inherently arbitrary. Although not truly impossible the probability is low enough so as to not bear mention in a Rational, Reasonable argument." The probability of finding one particular atom out of all of the atoms in the universe has been estimated to be 1/10^80. The probability of just one (1) functional 150 amino acid protein chain forming by chance is 1/10^164. It has been calculated that the probability of DNA forming by chance is 1/10^119,000. The probability of random chance protein-protein linkages in a cell is 1/10^79,000,000,000. Based on just these three cellular components, it would be far more Rational and Reasonable to conclude that the cell was not formed by un-directed random natural processes. Note: Abiogenesis Hypothesis posits that un-directed random natural processes, i.e. random chance formation, of molecules led to living organisms. Natural selection has no effect on individual atoms and molecules on the micro scale in a prebiotic environment. (*For reference, peptides/proteins can vary in size from 3 amino acid chains to 34,000 amino acid chains. Some scientists consider 300-400 amino acid protein chains to be the average size. There are 42,000,000 protein molecules in just one (1) simple cell, each protein requiring precise assembly. There are approx. 30,000,000,000,000 cells in the human body.)
Of all the physical laws and constants, just the Cosmological Constant alone is tuned to a level of 1/10^120; not to mention the fine-tuning of the Mass-Energy distribution of early universe which is 1/10^10^123. Therefore, in the fine-tuning argument, it would be more Rational and Reasonable to conclude that the multi-verse is not the correct answer. On the other hand, it has been scientifically proven numerous times that Consciousness does indeed collapse the wave function to cause information waves of probability/potentiality to become particle/matter with 1/1 probability. A rational and reasonable person could therefore conclude that the answer is consciousness.
A "Miracle" is considered to be an event with a probability of occurrence of 1/10^6. Abiogenesis, RNA World Hypothesis, and Multiverse would all far, far, far exceed any "Miracle". Yet, these extremely irrational and unreasonable hypotheses are what some of the world’s top scientists ‘must’ believe in because of a prior commitment to a strictly arbitrary, subjective, biased, narrow, limiting, materialistic ideology / worldview.
Every idea, number, concept, thought, theory, mathematical equation, abstraction, qualia, etc. existing within and expressed by anyone is "Immaterial" or "Non-material". The very idea or concept of "Materialism" is an immaterial entity and by it's own definition does not exist. Modern science seems to be stuck in archaic, subjective, biased, incomplete ideologies that have inadequately attempted to define the "nature of reality" or the "reality of nature" for millennia. A Paradigm Shift in ‘Science’ is needed for humanity to advance. A major part of this Science Paradigm Shift would be the formal acknowledgment by the scientific community of the existence of "Immaterial" or "Non-material" entities as verified and confirmed by observation of the universe and discoveries in Quantum Physics.)
Someone please point me to a point in this video where Lennox makes a good argument. He's played on so many apologists videos. He's a confident speaker with a charming accent...but I've never heard a good argument from him.
Ok so I am an agnostic who has been on something of my own "spiritual journey" lately and I have been watching a lot of John Lennox, and I'm hoping that someone in this comment section can help clarify some things for me. A person saying that god exists is a statement of faith, Lennox has said this before many times. He has also said many more times that being an athiest and claiming god does not exist is a statement that requires a tremendous amount of faith, even more so than claiming that god does exist. But one thing I am struggling with is that he will often say things like "There is no way it (the nature of the genetic code) could be created by chance." (3:40) Is that not also a tremendous statement of faith? If not, why? Lennox often cites the complexity of the universe and life itself as the reason that god must exist. And while I admit it is a compelling argument, it also in no way proves that God MUST exist, especially not the god of the bible. Is there something I am missing?
You missed nothing Jake! LOL, I love your patronizing tone and sarcasm. Eric kisses Lennox butt in consecutive videos.
@jakeshelton4 no Lennox's statement is not a stament of faith about genetic code being created by chance.
Even the simplest prokarocyte cell has irreducible complexity- a cell membrane, RNA, ribosomes, cytoplasm etc. You cannot "make" a cell without having the cell already, just as you cannot "make" an egg without having a chicken.
The blind faith of evolutionists that somehow RNA was created by random chance (which in itself is so far fetched to be stretching the bounds of credibility, like throwing random letters on the floor and expecting even an A4 page of writing to be recreated perfectly) and then this created a cell requires so much faith in a random process making very specific tools eg you randomly make RNA, how does that then assemble proteins into a ribosome when there is no ribosome to make them and no cell membrane to keep the molecules the RNA is making in one place long enough to be of any use. You might as well fill a bucket with holes in with with water and expect it to stay in the bucket if you think random events can make a cell.
Science: The study of how God did it. Whether one believes in God or not, the work of science continues. My guess is that the atheist scientists are worried not only for their standing in society, but also worry about losing grant money for their research.
You got it!
Both FAILED in the TEST/COMMAND written in 1JOHN 4:1-3 (KJV): THE PRO-CHRIST; THE ANTICHRIST.
Religion: A conclusion people try to hold onto no matter how many facts disagree with it's conclusion.
Have you ever _directly observed_ this 'God'?
@@kevinkelly2162which fact disagrees with the theory of intelligent design?
Still waiting to hear how science has discovered god.
Only individuals can discover God because God is not a thing but a relationship and relationships are the results of decisions not discoveries.
By His creation.
@@ferratilisthat doesn’t say how science discovered a god.
@@leomullins Yeah according to this video, God is not a relationship. With whom would the relationship exist before creation? How can a "relationship" create a universe? Or do anything, for that matter?
@@nyepowell3949you are misinterpreting what he said to you. He said that people can know the God of the Bible through the creation and have a personal relationship with him as a believer thorough Christ. Science can’t prove or disprove God besides agos has said that humans can’t know him from earthy wisdom
Just because we don’t know something does not automatically mean, “god.” Ignorance is bliss isn’t it
My god i love this man!!!
He's just so damn intelligent and wise!!!
His arguments are amazing!!!!
Fantastic interview and topic.
We can't explain it, therefore God.
Exactly. They vaguely say 6+ times science points to god, yet when you pay attention listening for any specific evidence they mention maybe 2 things, and neither involved evidence of a god being The Correct Explanation of that part of reality.
@@majmage It is no different from the Ancient Aliens guy saying we don't know how these things were built, therefore aliens
There's absolutely no question that a designer is responsible.
@@majmageThere's absolutely no question that a designer is the answer.
@sbnwnc Except that's incorrect.
We have DNA which by definition is a written language and languages don't just make themselves.
That's logical and rational.
You simply can't get around that.
To those of us who only need to see a sun rise , to be in awe of God ; we thank those of you in the family who can explain the workings of a sun rise. 🙏🏼🎶 Who is this King of glory ? Now let’s go tell someone about Jesus. 🧩
You need only to see the sunrise to be in awe of the Cosmic Pancake Goddess 🌌🥞✨
Oh, celestial culinary muse, the Cosmic Pancake Goddess! 🌌🥞✨ Your divine presence graces the cosmos with an irresistible aroma of joy and wonder. With each celestial flip of your cosmic spatula, you create pancakes of serendipity that fill our hearts with delight.
May your pancake blessings continue to fill the universe with joy, and may we forever revel in the whimsy of your cosmic dance.🌠🌾🥞
The thumbnail of this video says “science can’t solve this.” That’s the literal definition of a god of the gaps argument. Science probably can solve anything, we just haven’t developed a way to figure it all out yet.
John Lennox has been given much, and he's doing OK! Francis Collins, I'm not so sure.
Francis Collins worked out DNA is a language
Atheism can never be refuted.
Why do you say that ?
@@paulamarianaruizdo you think it can be?
@@therick363 yes because it is being rampantly refuted this host has a book called "is atheism dead" from 2 years ago where he refutes all the famous atheist that are now in hell or are 60. Very recommended and he proves theism from non biblical sources
@@paulamarianaruiz did someone prove a God exists? Nope. So not refuted.
Someone wrote a book called “is atheism dead”….oh well then I guess that means it is dead…..does that mean god is a delusion??
I don’t think you even understand what atheism is.
And no he didn’t refute all the famous atheists.
Prove they are in hell…..
@@therick363 Yes God does exist because there is evidence like spiritual, personal, philosophical and scientific (intelligent creator) and cultural influence.
Those atheist are in hell because they were WRONG about God and a lot they have said has been utterly refuted like some sociological things they said and societal things we are suffering in the west.
In hell they are paying for their sins and for how they caused other people to sin and how they caused the fall of the west. I can't show you them in hell because I am a christian and are going to heaven
I've always said science is the study of God's creation.