Does SCIENCE Make a CASE for GOD? | John Lennox, Stephen C. Meyer | Kirk Cameron on TBN
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- Kirk Cameron is joined by John Lennox and Stephen C. Meyer to discuss when the universe began and the existence of God. What is intelligent design? Are there scientific discoveries that reveal the MIND behind the universe? Watch this thought-provoking interview now!
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0:00 Intro
0:26 Math, Science, and Faith
2:58 Mathematics and God
7:30 Why Christianity is True
11:18 Answering Tough Questions
17:30 The Brain and Science
23:00 Intelligent Design
28:00 Origin of The Material Universe - Zábava
Excellent..
Amazing!!!!
This is interesting ❤
Yes dear we're you watching from?
It's not that you can't believe, it's because you won't believe. If you believe there's a God then you'd be accountable to Him and you refuse to bend the knee to Him.
I agree that Romans 1:18-32 explains this brilliantly. If you desire to know the truth, God will reveal it to you!
It's time we replace the mythology of natural selection with the observable truth of divine selection.
How does one "observe the truth of divine selection?"
@@danielpaulson8838 just look at observable biology. No scientist has observed the transition of a rat to bat, wolf to whale, ape to human, etc. Evolution has a 0% success rate and a 100% fail rate. All we actually CAN observe is creatures reproducing after their own kind (taxonomic family), just like Genesis 1 says God designed them to. So while biological life refuses to validate darwinism, it actually obediently verifies God's word every moment of every day. Please accept observable biology and documented history. Declare Jesus as your Lord, believe in your heart that God raised him from death and you will be saved (Romans 10:9).
@refuse2bdcvd324 you haven't said anything.
AMEN!
@@danielpaulson8838 we can observe divine selection in the Cambrian explosion. Most of the body plans we see today came into existence in a very short period of time with no observable evidence of change in body types. This comports with what Genesis says; that God designed creatures to reproduce after their own kind.
Use this concept we call science to disprove its own worst applications. Marvelous!
It's what hypocrites do. Cherry pick anything on the planet. They're as solid as jello. Before it sets.
This was by far the most interesting and amazing discussion on the existence of God. While it was easier to understand more of Dr. Lennox's explanations (and as a novice acquaintance with the different works of C.S.Lewis), Dr. Meyer's examples helped with understanding his contentions. Kirk, for me, this was one of the best interviews
I have seen on Takebacks. Thank you for your excellent choice on topic and guests.😊
Science makes the case that no one knows what god is.
The following is a true story. God told me this story is important for atheists as well as believers to hear...here now is my personal testimony. I was doing my morning ocean swim in shallow water when I was attacked by a shark and I barely made it back to shore. A large part of my thigh was missing and I was losing so much blood...I knew I was a goner and would never be able to make it for help. But then out of nowhere a surfer showed up, he looked exactly like Jesus, the white version. On that day I witnessed a set of foot prints in the sand leading away from where I laid. I called out..."hey Jesus looking dude...are you just going to just leave me here"? And he said.."do you know how much you weigh...hell yeah". And then I died. But don't worry I came back three days later. Proof! How could I have written this if I didn't come back from the dead? The End.
A real intellectual we have here 😂 enjoy your narcissistic nihilistic worldview because you’re clearly someone who has it all figured out hahaha
@@JC.X.4 No...I think everyone would agree that you are the real intellectual. I am just a humble guy who returned from the dead.
The funny thing about personal experience is that it is extremely persuasive to one person only. You yourself. As for other people's testimony, that requires context and vetting to see what the best explanation is. Only you know your story is true for sure but contextually I have my doubts. I find the resurrection testimony pretty persuasive. If you remove the anti supernatural bias Jesus raising from the dead makes the most sense out of the other possibilities.
Broccoli is very good and it tastes good too. You just need to know how to prepare it.
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I really love watching this channel, very awesome and inspiring, we're you watching from?
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God i am
I think about the parts of Jesus life that weren't recorded in the Bible
Pharasies ana saducees tried to change Jesus'sout of the the word of GOD and to honor the law of Moses
Science is the use of reason and evidence to discover the laws that govern our physical universe. Religion is about discovering and aligning ourselves with the moral laws that govern our universe. Insisting that a book written 2,000 years ago be entirely consistent with science is unreasonable, and does not negate the moral truths the Bible elucidates. Moral truth and science are entirely compatible, and both reflect a transcendent God.
Laws of considering others before yourself don’t govern the universe, in fact in nature, it’s very bizarre
The mythic story of Adam and Eve is about the evolution of humans to the point that we became capable of recognizing the existence God and moral truth, as well as the truth of mathematics, both of which existed since the Big Bang, but could not be seen or understood until evolution produced a species with sufficient intellectual capabilities. If man's stupidity and unbridled selfishness destroy most of life on earth, evolution, which some see as God's means of creation, will eventually produce another species capable of moral comprehension and communion with God.The tragedy of the human condition is that although we recognize the existence of a transcendent moral law, we are incapable of keeping it. @Notarabbit911
Insisting that a book written 2,000 years ago contains any form of universally set moral law is delusional.
Logos…God spoke everything into existence ❤
CS Lewis - his view "Religion is the worldview that affects all of life," So basically this guy Lennox already was either convinced about religion or needed to find the right words to express his belief. WHY - Why not simply accept that you don't know and can't know anything about something that you already declare to be unknowable? NEVER had religion, NEVER needed it.
DUH, I before E except after C
Except as in NEIGHBOR or WEIGH.
I'm so happy to have a mathematician tell me that a god exists.
The biologist in the other department was giving me doubts.
Now I don't have to worry about the origin of the world.
Bet you know nothing of either 😂
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I know something of either, although I'm not sure how to pronounce it.
Jigsaws and puzzles.
Let’s get this out of the way god and science were not separate in the east only the west since Aristotle all is one you cannot separate the whole and reach the truth you have to include everything in everything you do that means whatever your conception of god is must be incorporated into everything else there is no two only one
Nope. We learn and so shift from supernatural answers to natural ones. Religion falls out of favor as current scientific knowledge increases.
@@danielpaulson8838Not true! The God who made you sent His Son to this world as a baby, 2023 years ago. We count time by the years since the birth of Jesus Christ, at Christmas. You sadly haven’t met Him yet. He is waiting for you!😊🙏🏼✝️🕊️❤️🎄🎁
@@jsshay01 Yah, we all know fifth grade Sunday school. A few of us chosen ones kept seeking and knocking. That’s from Jesus.
"wanted to know where science fitted into the big picture" - and which 'big picture' was that - there must have been something that needed to be picture first right? So basically, he had religion before he had science right?
Hey guys!! It should be very obvious, at THIS point in history. God creates a beautiful and wonderful amazing environment. And MAN has created a huge MESS on/in it. I think this IS a good “case” for GOD, don’t you??
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If God is an object he could not be existed if without space first element/An emptiness of space for all objects be appeared ! Space is infinity and is no more other space for God as an object and times .
If you need science to prove God, where is your faith? God or science?
You don’t need science to prove God, but you CAN use it for that purpose. Don’t compartmentalize your faith. The Heavens declare His glory, meaning that everything - spiritual and natural - have His thumbprint.
Theists like this only try to twist science, and then only selective parts, in an effort to claim their invisible supernatural is true. (They are not using scientific method at any time) They got nothing of their own. When you look at it, science does not use supernatural religion for answers. Yet supernatural religion tries to ride sciences coat tails when it suits them. That speaks volumes about who is actually seeking and knocking for righteousness. AKA, looking for the truth. They don't belong on the same playing field.
Observable science actually verifies scripture. The Law of Biogenesis states that life only comes from preexisting life. That means the origin of life has to be an eternal living source. What do we know from documented history that fits that qualification? Only God.
Scripture is documented history and every claim that it makes which can be verified using the scientific method has been verified. Archeologists actually use the Bible as primary source material in understanding artifacts being unearthed in the Middle East today. Archeology is a field that specializes in both science AND history. That means people who reject scripture fit the category of observable science denying documented history deniers. Sounds like you are a believer, but I won't assume. If you haven't already done so please accept observable science and documented history; declare Jesus as your Lord, believe in your hearty that God raised him from death and you will be saved (Romans 10:9).
@refuse2bdcvd324 So, faith isn't needed, and the bible lies.
BANAL NA KATANUNGAN SA ARAW NG PAGHUHUKOM BAKIT GUSTO MO PUMUNTA SA LANGIT AT ANO ANG GAGAWIN MO DOON?!. HEBREO 4:12. Matthew. 12:36-37
PSALMS 110:1-2.1CORINTHIANS 15:24-26. ECCLESIASTES 3:10-11. BONE FITNESS - SA PATULOY NA PAG TANDA ANG KATAWAN MO AT BUTO AY LALONG SISIGLA. ISAIAS 65:20. ECCLESIASTES 11:5. MALAKIAS 1:11. HEBREO 4:12. TITUS 1:16. PROVERB 30:4?!.6. ENDLESS QUESTION ONE ANSWER.
John 7:24
"Do not judge by appearance but judge with righteous judgment” Jesus Christ...Science is based on appearance.
We are on the earth but not of the earth.
"That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."
"Science cannot answer the question of meaning" as John Lennox says. We are here for God's purpose to love and forgive. We use the tools of science to love each other on earth but science does not tell us who we are or who God is.
"The kingdom of heaven is within you."
All comes from mind but that mind can be the Christ mind or the carnal, worldly mind.
Sounds like a case of poor judgement. Have you thought before? Can you?
@@frosted1030 What is bad , wrong or poor about what I have written?
@@robertdouglas8895 " What is bad , wrong or poor about what I have written?" Absence of critical thinking.
Have you met a human that is not from Earth? No. Of course not. Why would you think anyone is not "of the Earth"?
@@frosted1030 We are created in the likeness of our creator, God, who is Spirit, not a body.
@@frosted1030 Have you ever found a thought?
So Steven, how do you get from an outside of time and space big banger from some 14 billion years ago to one that likes goat sacrifice and the smell of it’s wafting burnt blood?
The err with the "KJV only religion".. Is they claim to have ALLLLLLLL scripture... contained within their compilation of scrolls. Totally ignoring Enoch, amongst other writings, that Christ himself quoted (Matthew 22:29-30) and CALLED SCRIPTURE! Also Jude who quoted Enoch. So called "bible scholars", who like politicians, try to explain all this away by giving us just a few candidates/options to believe in or vote for. Just don't ask questions lol. Especially about history...namely so called "American history" but I digress lol. 2 Timothy 3:16 Says... "All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness."
Did Paul have ALLLLLL scripture when he wrote this? Did he know what he was writing was going to be considered scripture???
Scripture is ONLY meant for 4 things. Doctrine, reproof, correction and instruction... Nowhere does it mention Salvation! Christ himself said that the scriptures only POINT to Him! That the scriptures will not save you! (John 5:39-40) Yet people refuse to come to Him and allow Him to know them for this salvation. Just because you have a book (the bible), used by men, to claim authority with the legalized and authorized name Jesus Christ (like "the doctrine of discovery")... And use His name in equity... Doesn't mean He won't still say... Depart from me... I NEVER KNEW YOU. Huge difference between letting or allowing Christ to know you...than thinking of how much about Christ you think you know! Satan does not care how much you think you know about Christ. Furthermore... You cannot truly KNOW Christ UNLESS you allow Him to know you! He first knows us...if you let Him. And that has NOTHING to do with a bible lol. What would have been the purpose of Christ coming to earth...dying..being ressurected..us GIVEN the Holy Spirit!!!....... If an incomplete or complete compilation of scrolls had ALLLLL the words contained within them to save you??? What would have been the purpose??? Want to know The Word (Christ)? Let Him know you... The good, the bad, the ugly and everything in between. The Word IS Christ... Preserved perfectly in Him.. Every jot and tittle😊 I love the scriptures... I just don't idolize them.
Exactly, seek Him. Allow Yeshua to come to you in quiet…Our Lord went by Himself to speal with His Father❤
"Does SCIENCE Make a CASE for GOD?" No, no it does not.
Man, this one hits all the laughable old clichés.
These men do not want to know the math and science of the Bible or they would ask instead of teach
Sorry Mr Lennox but the Bible is basically just a Story Book and should be treated as such.
You haven't done your homework.
You really make yourself sound ignorant with comments like that.
Give me one example of something in the Bible you think you can definitively say is wrong. Just one. I know you're not able...
You're not ready for that conversation.
@@nameyourchannel7844 Don't argue with me. Take your argument with Dan Barker from the Freedom From Religion Foundation website who was a former Pentecostal Preacher
@@nameyourchannel7844 "Give me one example of something in the Bible you think you can definitively say is wrong"
The warth was not created by any God and not in 6 days....there was no "light" spoken into exitence, we know how fusion works....and many many more things.
You realise we havent left page one yet...
It's a story, in large parts copied from other stories...Baucis and Philemon is plagiarized in the story about Loth and his wife. Pandora was the first woman (like Eve) created by the Greek gods. Like Eve, Pandora was created in the image of her creator. Pandora opened a box she was told not to open (like the fruit Yahweh told Eve not to eat) and once she opened the box, evil came out of it. Both Pandora and Eve were curious and tempted, and both the ancient Greeks and Christians (with the idea of Original Sin) use their disobedience to God to explain why disease. They stole not only from the Greeks: The gods Adonis, Tammuz, Osiris and Dionysus died and were then resurrected. The Gilgamesh Story has a great flood which the Genesis flood story follows “point by point and in the same order.
Most of the Bible is just plain weird nonsense. I for one am glad that this book is but myth, a chaotically cobbled-together anthology of disjointed documents, composed, revised, translated, distorted and 'improved' by hundreds of anonymous authors, editors and copyists, unknown to us and mostly unknown to each other, spanning nine centuries, and nothing else. It does not take much to see that that is what we are dealing here. (for most people).
Only in the mind of the supernatural believing theist. Watching theists use science is a crack up. They cherry pick it like the Bible. But, they have nothing of their own to work with, now do they?
You’ve clearly done no homework on the subject whatsoever.
Think harder !
@@bradsmith9189 Thanks for making my case. People who have something can demonstrate it.
What do they cherry pick? Science needs magic as theists need miracles.
@@555atU Science never claims unnatural causes. That's all Abrahamic religion is about. That's a poor effort at best. But little more than logical fallacy. Science and religion don't belong in the same conversation. Theists just want to participate and since they can't, they claim science too. But only what they like.
Science seeks and knocks for righteousness sake. How about that? They follow Jesus teachings and theists idol worship him. How ironic.
@@danielpaulson8838 I don't see the cherry picking. Science and religion has coexisted for centuries so I disagree. A belief in God doesn't stop science...but just operates in a different world view. Science can't explain how the universe came into existence, nor life's origin and consciousness. I can't prove a God anymore than you can prove God doesn't exist. If the supernatural is proven to exist, does that change how science is conducted? Maybe..maybe not.
How much of our universe is suitable for life? Hardly any of it. And our genome is a long word? 😂 John’s evidence for his god and his denial of evolution is DOA.
@@Mario_Sky_521 which aspect?
Science doesn’t show where we came from? 😂 Is John seriously this ignorant? Cambridge should reconsider his tenure. Sure, we haven’t figured out abiogenesis yet.
It takes thirty-six minutes to say "no"? No matter how many absurd creationist "scientists" you find, keep in mind that the goal of apologetics is to make naive fools feel less foolish about their fantasy.
DUH, I before E except after C