MiSTer Multisystem FAQ and Launch - A Consolised MiSTer FPGA System for Retro Gamers
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
- Update: Batch 2 is now available to pre-order, we have 1000 units in batch 2. Head over to rmcretro.store to grab one
Update: 500 sold, absolutely amazing work everyone, I was expecting this to last well into 2022!! We have another 1000 units coming, you can follow the new MMS Twitter account for updates at / multisystemfpga - Batch #2 pre-order will be up soon.
The MiSTer Multisystem is sold here: rmcretro.store/mister-multisy...
Find out more about the Multisystem on its official page at: www.heber.co.uk/product/multis...
Join the RMCretro chat server where we have a Multisystem support section: / discord
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Chapters
00:00 Intro
02:57 What is the MiSTer Multisystem?
05:57 What changed on the final Multisystem board?
09:47 How did the beta testing go?
11:33 When can I buy the MiSTer Multisystem?
11:46 Will the MiSTer Multisystem ship internationally?
14:11 What cases will be available?
14:24 Does the case come as standard?
15:28 Can you buy the Multisystem without a case?
16:16 Who is producing the cases?
17:54 Will there be a yellowed case option?
19:10 Will an injection moulded case be made?
21:20 What does the case feel like?
22:16 What's included in the Multisystem kit?
24:56 Is software included with the Multisystem?
26:53 What does the 2 year warranty cover?
28:25 Can I buy the Multisystem without RAM?
29:35 How many units will be available at launch?
31:18 Will the case withstand the heat?
36:22 Can you mount the MiSTer Multisystem in a PC Case?
39:28 What's the big orange component?
40:32 What systems are supported?
44:39 Will you provide software updates?
45:50 Can it run Playstation, Saturn and N64?
48:32 Is there a limit to how many times the FPGA can be reconfigured?
49:43 Can I use a CD drive or physical cartridges on MiSTer Multisystem?
51:01 Is there room for internal storage devices?
54:41 Is WIFI or Bluetooth built in to the MiSTer Multisystem?
55:38 Is there no better way than RJ45?
56:43 How did you design the MiSTer Multisystem on a 4 layer board?
59:27 Can RAM be upgraded and is Dual RAM supported?
01:03:31 What would be sacrificed if MiSTer moved to dual RAM?
01:06:55 Has the expansion bus lost functionality with the removal of the ajacent pins?
01:10:23 Can a realtime clock be added to the system?
01:10:55 What add-ons are ready for launch day?
01:14:33 I hate that SCART is on the top of the case!
01:18:01 What choice of back plates are there?
01:19:20 I'm in the US, what use is SCART to me?
01:21:15 Can I have S-Video or other video outputs?
01:22:30 Is the SCART output safe and correctly attenuated?
01:24:05 Can I use video adapter cables on the VGA socket?
01:25:23 Can all three video outputs be used at the same time?
01:26:39 Please give fair acknowledgement of other projects
01:28:24 Can it run Crysis?
01:28:39 How long the MiSTer Multisystem been in development?
01:31:35 What next for the MiSTer Multisystem?
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Pre-ordered the board, power supply, & case. You’ve made a desired product. Wish you guys the best on your launch.
Awesome Neil and as a producer I love what you are doing and agree the more the merrier
I am so EXCITED!!!!!!! You guys have done just so very well! I can see your enjoyment and pure happiness just pouring out of the both of you! Thank you guys, for working so very hard, to bring a quality product! BRAVO!!! I will be grabbing one, just as soon as I can(prob around tax season here in the states :] ).
Just ordered mine. So excited to play and tinker. Well done guys and thank you for your input into the mister project 🙏
Update: 500 sold, absolutely amazing work everyone, I was expecting this to last well into 2022!! We have another 1000 units coming, you can follow the new MMS Twitter account for updates at twitter.com/MultisystemFPGA - Batch #2 pre-order will be up soon.
The MiSTer Multisystem is sold here: rmcretro.store/mister-multisystem/
Original Text:
Hello Cave Dwellers! I'm so excited to finally have this ready to pre-order, you're going to love it especially if you're new to retro gaming with MiSTer. Here are the all important links:
Patron only pre-order page: rmcretro.store/mister-multisystem/
Please note that despite our very best efforts to have this ready to ship in October global events caught up with our supply chain at the last minute (we ordered components back in Feb/Mar) and so we have a new estimated date of 26th November to have these here and ready to ship to you. Frustrating but hopefully not a deal breaker.
If you have questions about the Multisystem the best place to ask is here in the comments or on the RMCretro Discord chat server at discord.gg/jGvH3VDs8h
You can also email us for help at rmcretro.store/contact-us/
While the Multisystem runs the open source MiSTer software they are in no way responsible for supporting or answering questions about the Multisystem, please approach us in the first instance for support.
Chapters
00:00 Intro
02:57 What is the MiSTer Multisystem?
05:57 What changed on the final Multisystem board?
09:47 How did the beta testing go?
11:33 When can I buy the MiSTer Multisystem?
11:46 Will the MiSTer Multisystem ship internationally?
14:11 What cases will be available?
14:24 Does the case come as standard?
15:28 Can you buy the Multisystem without a case?
16:16 Who is producing the cases?
17:54 Will there be a yellowed case option?
19:10 Will an injection moulded case be made?
21:20 What does the case feel like?
22:16 What's included in the Multisystem kit?
24:56 Is software included with the Multisystem?
26:53 What does the 2 year warranty cover?
28:25 Can I buy the Multisystem without RAM?
29:35 How many units will be available at launch?
31:18 Will the case withstand the heat?
36:22 Can you mount the MiSTer Multisystem in a PC Case?
39:28 What's the big orange component?
40:32 What systems are supported?
44:39 Will you provide software updates?
45:50 Can it run Playstation, Saturn and N64?
48:32 Is there a limit to how many times the FPGA can be reconfigured?
49:43 Can I use a CD drive or physical cartridges on MiSTer Multisystem?
51:01 Is there room for internal storage devices?
54:41 Is WIFI or Bluetooth built in to the MiSTer Multisystem?
55:38 Is there no better way than RJ45?
56:43 How did you design the MiSTer Multisystem on a 4 layer board?
59:27 Can RAM be upgraded and is Dual RAM supported?
01:03:31 What would be sacrificed if MiSTer moved to dual RAM?
01:06:55 Has the expansion bus lost functionality with the removal of the ajacent pins?
01:10:23 Can a realtime clock be added to the system?
01:10:55 What add-ons are ready for launch day?
01:14:33 I hate that SCART is on the top of the case!
01:18:01 What choice of back plates are there?
01:19:20 I'm in the US, what use is SCART to me?
01:21:15 Can I have S-Video or other video outputs?
01:22:30 Is the SCART output safe and correctly attenuated?
01:24:05 Can I use video adapter cables on the VGA socket?
01:25:23 Can all three video outputs be used at the same time?
01:26:39 Please give fair acknowledgement of other projects
01:28:24 Can it run Crysis?
01:28:39 How long the MiSTer Multisystem been in development?
01:31:35 What next for the MiSTer Multisystem?
Further Links:
Heber Ltd. www.heber.co.uk/
MiSTer project: misterfpga.org/
MiSTer wiki: github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/wiki
Neil - RMC
Neil and Richard - absolutely fantastic stuff ; love the engineering, enthusiasm, knowledge and passion for this project - really hope it is far more succesful than you envisaged!
It's awesome that this relationship developed, hope it continues a long time! Can't wait to get a pre-order in for this and some extra swag too 😊
You are the best Neal! I really liked how you tackled the question about the acknowledgment about other projects
Man, I have been missing out. Patiently waiting for Batch 3! I check.....every day. Keep up the great work!!
Richard's great, a real natural at this, and I hope he'll find his way into more videos.
Having the SCART route through the inside of the case with the thread for stress relief is a fantastic solution. Great engineering.
Agreed. I'm really glad that they were able to change that from having the cables jet upwards outside the top.
I’m in America and I can tell you that I’ve ALWAYS wanted SCART output for my consoles. 🙂👏🏻
It’s the best feature 😀👍
Agreed and nice taking advantage of the opportunity to add an option for mounting storage inside as well, really adds to the clean aesthetics.
@@aldizzle The scart was such a hassle to connect, very easy to bend some pins, luckily you could bend them back into shape. I'm glad we got rid of it.
On the other hand though it gives you easy access to RGB, here in Europe only high end TVs had the component connectors.
Fantastic Q&A. Thank you. I'm very excited to see this available to buy!
Thank Neil and Richard for taking the time to answer my questions. I got to play with one of your prototypes a couple of weeks back at RetCon in London. Very nice!!
very happy to see this selling out immediately
i already have all the mister gear i need but that consolized approach is v refreshing
great work
I really liked this, hearing the technical stuff I didn't understand did make it clear that Heber's involvement isn't just about thinking they can make a quick buck but it seems like a genuine interest in this but offering that commercial insight.
Super Interesting Project! Thanks for all the in-depth info - probably keep track of this and look at a purchase next year though.
excellent overview. I sincerely appreciate the q/a
This is fabulous. Really looking forward to the next batch of these being available.
Just got around to watching this now, thanks for mentioning my long-winded SCART question guys 😁 this is looking like a fantastic product! Well done!
Great video guys, you put a ton of work and thought into this, very cool stuff. I really like the tweak with the scart out the back and the extra space for a drive. I’m already two misters deep or I would order one today.
Looks like a very well designed board, its very clear much time has been spent creating it. Impressive!
I've been looking to build a Mister setup for a while now and this will save me a lot of time (and postage) bringing the individual parts together. Good stuff. 👍
Great video, I think you pretty much covered everything that I could think of. Very exciting.
Absolutely loved this episode. Well done on putting together such a great solution.
Terrific video, well done!
Thanks Phil 👍
I've liked this 1 second in..... It's going to be great as these vids always are. much love.
really like the transparency gents!, so nice that the maker is really in the video,
Amazing stuff man! Can't wait to Have enough money saved up for one!
Good luck to all that get one. Already jealous of any mister owner!
Hopefully fingers cross will be able to afford one next year 😁
Huge props for letting people know about the alternatives, that instills real confidence. Great work!
To be fair if you start looking at putting together a mister it's not exactly an impulse buy, and it's pretty obvious to anybody that there are alternatives as its an open source project so don't understand why somebody was criticizing not mentioning alternatives, they never said it was an exclusive or the only option the original video was clear Neil even said shop around and look at the alternative's, IMHO having a board made by an experienced manufacturer with quality components and a free to download printable case can only help the project and make it more popular
@@KarlUKmidlands yeah that whole question came out as a pretty salty callout , like "how dare you talk about the thing you're doing instead of the thing X is doing" ... it's like someone just wants to start a beef among board makers actually instead of trying to promote wholesome contributions...
Really a well executed project! Well done, everybody that has been involved! This is going to be fun! :)
Love this approach. Well done guys! 😎
Love it, can't wait to get in on the next batch!
I love the idea of buying a bunch of different, colorful cases. Really it would seem that any color available to 3D print material would be an option. I know it's completely different, but a transparent acrylic would also be delicious. Just dreaming!
I hope we can offer more at some point, we just need to focus on the core colours first to get these orders completed - then I'll experiment with all sorts of materials and colours...
great vid, you both worked well together would watch more. The project looks really cool too, annoyingly just splashed out on a retro handheld so will have to wait a bit to pick up a multi system but wishing you all the best (looks like you're smashing the sales already anyway)! :)
I finally settled for the scart through the back option. Cant wait for it now!
Awesome, looking forward to checking it out. Great video!
I am super glad you guys included SCART! I'm from the US but it still is the main connection i use for my retro games.
This is going to be a great success!
Was for a short recent while a kind of "business idea" of my own, but something that would take a long while to materialize.
Then you show up with it "in the bag"! Huge congrats!
I eagerly await more stock.
You sir, may have another investor. I gotta look into that :)
Best wishes gents from Australia. You will smash 500 units.
Ordered! 🤘
I really looking forward seeing this on MVG or LGR! You can trully see that there is passion in this board. Hope to go well.
Order placed. Can't wait!
Awesome work, Neil and Richard! Was wanting an easy way into MiSTer and this is it for me. Have ordered and so looking forward to getting it! Would you please consider making a step-by-step video from opening the MMS box to playing a basic arcade game on an HDMI monitor? (downloading the firmware etc.) It would be so helpful - there is loads of MiSTer info around but RMC has a way of explaining things so clearly! Thanks again for all your efforts and loving how RMC is growing from strength to strength (so deserved!)
Yes we will be making guides and videos. I think a dedicated channel to tutorials is probably the best way forward. Everything from unpacking and setting up to prepping your SD card and beyond
@@RMCRetro That all sounds terrific! :o)
I agree! I think it might be worthwhile to pin these forthcoming tutorials to the MMS discord channel.
Thank you so much, we really had fun (and are still having fun) making these things for people who want them - I'm looking forward to doing some tutorial video's and setup / use of the various cores etc.
@@RichRap3D You deserve all the success that hopefully comes with this. Watched the whole video, and really appreciate all the thought that went into it every aspect of it.
MiSTer Multisystem - Im so glad to hear this is hear and to play Amiga games is enough for me to get it, but knowing it doing so many other systems is a major plus too !!
Well This popped up on my YT and glad it did - I'll be ordering one of these !! It's just what I've been looking for.. Great work guys.
Having the 4:3 scart jumper is great. I had to hardwire 4:3 into a cable and use a coupler on my retro systems to avoid having to constantly select 4:3 on every power on.
Well done great job! I will wait and order deluxe set when it's a bit cheaper.
Well done everyone! Top interview too.
I am actually glad that the deluxe version is sold out. I probably would have impulse bought it if it wasn't. Congratulations that it seems to be selling well.
Awesome product, thanks!
Great compelling content as always.
Awesome, I hope you have great luck.
A remarkable achievement in such a short space of time.
Fantastic video and amazing product, gents. Wear your pants outside your trousers with pride. Will 100% be ordering one.
Please make more units available mates! I'm ready to buy one!
White is the cutest one. Think about it, all of the cutest looking consoles had 2 things in common, they were small and white: Original Famicom, Original PC-Engine, PSone, Dreamcast, Original Nintendo DS Lite, Wii.
...and not forgetting the Amstrad gx4000 :)
@@Robin-ie3ns Strange console, looks like a non-Japanese region exclusive console.
Great work! But also DAMN YOU! (and Bob from RetroRGB because it was his news round-up that brought this to my attention even though I was already familiar with your channel).
I like my current MiSTer in its official case because it's so tiny and portable, so I don't want to sacrifice that. However, your product is very similar to a whimsical idea I had about putting one in a console style case, except yours is way better thought out and executed and is sexy and I want one!
Not only that but you reminded me how much I love the idea of having a MiSTer in a keyboard case (reminiscent of the Amiga/C64/Atari 800XL) so now I want one of those too despite not having the D.I.Y skills required!
Stop making me want things I can't but can but really can't afford! In the space of a couple of hours I've gone from being reasonably content with my setup (though I was already looking at buying a MT32-Pi) to wanting to own three MiSTer set-ups!
PS: Do you think you'll ever make a similarly implemented keyboard case?
MiSTer system Oh the time has come. And you know that your the only one to say...... let's play.
What you playing what you looking for? You know us guys will want to play some more with you. It's true!!!
Great video. Picked up a MiSTer a month or so ago but didn't get the io or usb boards and made do with the nano, otg usb hub and 128 ram as I was considering this board when I saw the first video. Great price especially considering the ram is included and am highly likely to get this instead of the already available options. Hope the upcoming psx core doesn't require any additional ram because I think that core is going to get a lot of people on board with the MiSTer project (along with the Saturn)
I really like the slightly casual approach to this project. I've been looking at the Mega65 today, which looks like another great project, but it seems like the money is being spent on making it Uber-polished and high end. Your approach is just a bit friendlier and that makes the product more appealing.
No casual is paying 650 bucks
@@guyverjay1289 Euro :)
Only 6 hours in and the deluxe is sold out. Ah well, as promised, insta buy. This project is badass!
Well that's Christmas sorted out :) Loving the look of this .
Also I can't wait for the Saturn and PS1 cores... will possibly relegate my Japanese Saturn with the MODE in it to a dusty shelf.
the consolised MiSTer Multisystem is one the most exciting developments happening in the retro-computing scene - was great to see and hear from the face behind the board :-)
BTW, I've read about some companies deciding to ramp up manufacturing using 3D printing - I guess there's a cost analysis balancing point where it remains more sensible to stick with acquiring more 3D printers for more production capacity vs taking the plunge into injection moulding. Retro computing products probably are typically at volume levels where 3D printing is just the sensible option
i think the retro community never can thank u enough for your effort. when i can purchase one then i will definetly buy one. Nothing can compare to the original controller game session on a crt tv. i will surely use both emulators and the mistersystem but. I think this system can be named as the holy grail of retro gaming. I can only bow and give you the best congrats. Pretty interested what your next projects will be.
Thanks! You can buy them now at ultimatemister.com
I´d buy the Multisystem, a car and a house from this Richard guy. Love this project, will probably jump on it. Well done fellows!
SOLD OUT ALREADY!!!!!!!!! AMAZING JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have never used mister or anything related to it but I was looking forward to this project. It is a shame I can not spend that much. I hope I can get one in the future. Thank you for making it happen and introducing me to mister.
I don't know your budget, but there are ways to get the mister project going that are cheaper. Several of the cores can run on a bare de-10 nano board with no additional ram or other boards, so to get started you just need the de-10 nano, an HDMI cable, a micro usb to full sized usb adapter, and a usb controller, much of which you probably already have, and you can buy the other stuff later if you want to expand your options. You don't even strictly need to get a micro sd card because the de-10 nano includes an 8gb card, which is plenty for several of the earlier systems the mister supports. If you want to play on a crt the price doesn't need to get that much higher, there are various hdmi to vga and hdmi to component adapters that are pretty cheap and won't add any lag, but you do need to do some research to make sure you get the right one.
@@coopercummings8370 Thank you so much for the message. Mister is a bit confusing so what you said here will definitely help me. Cheers 🙏
@@retroistaba Many of the cores do need an additional ram module, but the usb hub and IO boards are almost entirely optional. this project integrates the ram, io board, and usb hub into one pcb with a few extra features. The IO boards do have a secondary sd card slot that used to be used for the hard drive space of some computer cores, some might still require that but for the most part they can now use the primary storage on the DE-10 nano, other than that a DE-10 nano and a ram board should play just about everything, but you may need to improvise a cooling solution (the io boards include a fan so you don't need to improvise with them). There is a possibility that the upcoming ps1 or saturn cores may require a dual ram board setup that wouldn't work with the analog io board or various other solutions that aren't part of the standard mister stack, but that has not been confirmed and I don't even think the developers of those cores have suggested it is likely
@@coopercummings8370 👍 cheers. I need to start somewhere.
This does look like a great system. I've been looking at Mister units for ages, really glad to see a nice well-thought-out case and system offering - this really stands out. I jumped onto your store after watching this video and as suspected you'd sold out.
When do you think you'll have more full systems available - and would it be not too much trouble to implement an email notification system? :)
Thanks, Greg.
Just finished my first ever 3D print apart from the level tester. I printed Part C, the base of this and asked my wife to buy me the system for xmas but we missed the pre-order. The print came out really well, just need to tidy up a few bits. I will work on printing the other parts over the coming week... fingers crossed more stock is incoming or I will have an empty shell on xmas morning 😃 but happy to wait until stock is available. I went for white and will paint it once it is all printed
Iam excited about this
I honestly really like the black bottom and orange top case! I'd buy that probably if it were available! And having Scart in there is a great idea! But I'll first have to start saving though.......
No matter which way you look at it, FPGA is the future of retro gaming/computing.
The black one looks a bit Net Yaroze.
Eventually our retro consoles will succumb to rot. While there are efforts to recap retro consoles by replacing their capacitors, soldier joints, laser lights (in CD-Based consoles), etc., a day will come when our favorite systems will be unrepairable due to age. It’s a sad fact really.
Great jobs! 👍🏻
I like this guy, he was very happy and enthusiastic and knew his stuff, he should definitely be a returning character
Agreed Richard seems like a really nice person and this project him and Neil have done looks really well thought out.. will be buying one ASAP.
Sold out but I will be picking one up in the next batch!
Ordered 😍😍😍
What did you do during the pandemic Neil?
Opened my own museum and launched my own console, you?
Watched netflix and put on weight....
I'm carrying a few extra pounds of that makes you feel better. And my cat is on a diet 🐈
The orange and black reminds me of the old 70's Binatone console
Oh yes it does! Good call! :)
Reminds me a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup wrapping.
Certainly does still have a working Binatone TV Master VI. My very first video games console. And the system that got me into video games.
@@peterpereira3653 Hehe snap! Exactly the same here, except unlike you I no longer have it. :( You have done really well keeping it for so many years!!
@@wobblyrampack9655 Yes, indeed, but the original speaker, had to be replaced as that stopped working. Other, than that, the machine has all original hardware.
Thank you for making the board and case separately. I have plenty of 3D printers and would like to design my own case since I’m not particularly fond of this design. Perhaps I can make a cover of some kind that makes the top of any Multisystem look more like a Nintendo 64 or something. ;)
I hope you got success with this project so maybe it's mass produced and became affordable. So far it is a work in progress but I think it has potential for more stuff.
Ordered! And now the wait. 😨
Love the case design. It feels like it could have been a prototype case for 90s, 2000s system.
Well it serves me right for dithering. Was going to cancel my OLED Switch preorder and grab one of these but I left it too long to decide! Guess I'll have to wait for the next batch.
I'm looking forward to having my ssd and MT32pi in a single case!
I'd just like to cast my vote for the composite/s-video expansion.
I think it would be great to offer specs on mounting points, socket holes and interior volume so creators can come up with all kinds of wild case options!
Tried to preorder the deluxe kit but "The selected product combination is currently unavailable." when you select a case type.
Good stuff
I'd love to see a TTY2OLED module for the front card slot (or center USB port). It's a very cool little project and feels like an excellent use of the middle cover space.
As an American with a consolized Neogeo, having Scart is a wonderful thing! When combined with an Open Source Scan Converter, you can get a beautiful HDMI output! This honestly would work well for the Mister too!
Or you could just use the built-in HDMI
Love the logo.
Thanks! I did that, it's Cammy the Chameleon
@@RMCRetro Chapeau, sir! You are a man of many talents.
I'd like to see this in blue. I'll order in the future if I ever get a chance, based on supply of course.
Awsome product.
Does anyone else think Richard looks and sounds like Steve Backshall?
Wow, i was able to order one! Thanks for making an order limit guys. I would hate to see these on ebay for 1k
What would be the point of scalping when they are able to make as much units as there is demand for?
Would you guys be interested in making a sort of attachment addon to the case for a small LCD or TFT panel for that PSOne screen addon type feel?
That would make me extremely happy. It would be nice having something like that so I can put my Multisystem on my desk and play it with that small monitor on top while I tinker around on my PC.
Awesome product guys! Thanks for all the work put in.
So stoked!!! For the life of me I haven't been able to puzzle together a complete Mister from online retailers. This is heaven sent!
Awww, the deluxe kit is not available. 😢 Where do I source a Terasic DE10-Nano in Australia?
I don't know about australia specifically, but amazon carries them, many of the major electronic components retailers like mouser and digi-key also sell them, so look for those kinds of places if amazon won't ship one to you
Well I have ordered a multi system and a white case so hopefully you won't mind printing out a white one or two! :)
I really like the white, its probably my favourite colour for the Multisystem - so that's no problem, I'll print a special one just for you.
This and the evercade are two examples of projects done right!
So I don’t need my Sd Ram module nor my IO board anymore if I have the stack ?
One thing I just thought of, will service manuals and schematics (and possibly board views if I can be cheeky) be made available for people to be able to repair the board?