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Makita 40v Circular Saw VS Makita 36v (18v x2) | Makita HS003G 40v Circular Saw Review
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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2020
- Let's take a look at the new Makita 40v Circular Saw. This is the HS003G and we put it up against the Makita 36v (18v x2) DHS781 (XSH06). They are both 7 1/4" Circular Saws (185mm). Is the new 40v better? Is there any difference at all? 40v Max is only 36v after all, so are they the same? Let's take a look...
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Does the skilly come with a rafter hook in the 6 piece kit that you got or is it a separate purchase? All the pictures on Makita's site don't show it and it's not mentioned as an accessory.
You clearly haven't watched this video.
Just got the new XGT 40v . It’s got some serious muscles and the cuts are absolutely soft and precise. Very impressed
They need to upgrade their chainsaw to 80v next. Chainsaws require a ton of energy to run. An 80v chainsaw would be awesome. They could easily produce a 40V/10ah battery with today's 21700 technology. That would make a x2 chainsaw run at 80v/10 ah. Ummm, yes please.
Apparently makita is struggling with getting hold on to batteries..
That is why they only have 2 and 4ah now.
Unlike other brands.
@@ian9toes 40v power tools are the same as 36v. Same thing with 20v tools being 18v. It's marketing only. 18v(20v) is 5 Li-Ion cells in series while 36v(40v) are 20 cells in series. So a 40v 4ah battery is the same as two 18v 4ah batteries.
These do use a different size cell: 21700 vs 18650. But the voltages are the same.
@@anthonypelchat IIRC, only the 4Ah 40v battery is 21700, the rest of the XGT battery lineup is 18650, just like the LXT batts.
@@reaperreaper5098 I'm not sure about Makita's lines specifically, but others are using 2170s in their 18v/20v battery packs. It actually makes more sense to use 2170s in smaller packs as they are larger cells with larger capacity. For a 4-5ah 18v/20v pack, you need a minimum of 10-18650s while you only need 5-2170s. For 36v/40v packs, you need a minimum of 10 cells regardless if you use 18650s or 2170s.
Currently, only Dewalt builds 60v packs that I know of (54v). They use 18650s as they need 15 cells for that capacity. 2170s would cause that to be a much larger pack size.
@@anthonypelchat I know Milwaukee's High Output 3, 6, 8, and 12Ah batteries are 21700s, and Dewalt has some 21700s but I don't know which ones are which off top of my head.
But Makita put themselves in a corner on the LXT platform. Their 36V tools that double up on 18V batteries can't physically fit 21700 cells. Weirdly, reviewers have been saying that the Makita 40V 4Ah (the only 21700 battery in the XGT line) doesn't bring any additional performance over the other 18650 based batteries.
My Uncle has the 36v and it is a wood chopping beast, That said 40v seems great if you are getting 40v platform.
I'm not upgrading to the 40V. I like that I can use the same 18v 5ah batteries with my drill, driver, etc without needing to support a 2nd battery platform.
maybe in a few years, lol. I'm still in honeymoon with my simple DHS680z.
Hey Mark, wait until you see the next vid... 48hrs.
Rodrigo, the 680 is still a great tool and will still be the saw I grab the most because of the weight, size and blade orientation.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL did you try the Dcs552z? it is a circular saw for metal, but I just saw in a japanese channel someone using it for woodworking - even with less RPM's that's the main difference of the metal saws.
I have the DCS550 but I have never used it for wood. I will upgade and do a review... one day... 40v stuff for the next few weeks!
So, basically, it depends on the battery platform you're aiming to keep then. Upgrading from an 18v to 36v would make sense if you were in the market for a beefier saw, but getting a 40v when you already have a 36v means you're ready to invest in other stuff too.
Thanks for the review. I won't be feeling bad for skipping the 40v now. Much appreciated.
The blade on the 18 v saw was a completely different type and tooth count. shame on you for not changing it.🤗
I really liked your review and do appreciate your effort. Right now in the USA Makita is blowing out the 36v kits for dirt cheap. 2 18v 5ah batteries, a 2 slot charger, and 36v saw for $250. You even get an extra free bare 18v tool as a deal sweetener. That 40v saw is truly awesome but getting the 36v at current prices (Black Friday) is a no brainer.
I’ve been using my old trusty 110v Makita saw for over 35 years now. Makita 24t thin kerf blades have always been my blade of choice. They cut like a hot knife through butter. That 110v saw was perhaps the best power tool I’ve ever purchased.
Thank you very much for your fine review! I’m getting the 36v saw and a nice free 4-1/2 in angle grinder! Woo woo!
How new are your 18V batteries? If they are older and had lots of charges: they loose capacity over time.
It looks and sounds like makita have been planning this for a while now. They released the 36v saw everyone loved it, now they release the same saw with a different battery platform, and simply crank up the motor revolutions, a faster saw = faster cuts. I do like how the battery isnt hanging out the back of thing now though!
16" 80volt saw only in your dreams? Thanks for the video and keep up the great work 👍.
You never know... They make 36v 9 1/4" (235mm) already... so... one day ;)
Presumably the HS004G also has faster internet than the HS003G?
I'm waiting for the roll out of HS005G
Tools & Stuff you don’t want that 5g radiation though .
@@nguont Also 5G has shorter effective range , only 1000 feet compare to 10 miles on 4G .
How’s the weather over seas there man? I’m here in the US, so we don’t get these new offerings from Makita here until 2021 I think. Pretty cool we get a preview thanks to you! So, my guess is that the “40 Volt”, which is really 36 volt, will get you better run time and slightly more power due to the difference in battery cells. The 18650’s are inferior lithium ion cells compared to the 21700 cells I’ve found based on using Milwaukee and Dewalt tools. The 21700 cells run cooler that’s for sure. And they fail less than the 18650’s. Thanks for the reviews on the new Makita’s!
Ho-Lee-Chit I just received my 36 volt Makita circular saw kit , with batteries, charger, and a free tool. Price $250 usd. The free tool selection
is very good. Grinder, sawzall, jigsaw etc. I got the tire inflator. What a screaming deal.
What a fine tool. It cuts with absolutely no effort or bogging down. I love the magnetic blade stop! Your review was the one that made up my mind.
Thanks so much! I also agree that the newest generation Makita blade is incredible. The 40v tool looks to be better but I don’t believe it’s worth 2 times
the price. If I was framing every day I might get the 40v but for my current needs I am completely happy. Thanks
Cheers
Btw: One strange thing. My 1 year old 18v 4.0 amp batteries are 13 grams heavier than the 5.0 amp batteries that came with the saw. 🤔 their physical size is exactly the same.
cheers
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Thanks for the upload, greetings from southern California.
Thanks for watching
@Tools & Stuff It looks & cuts well but for the sake of the small 18V slim platform for the drill side tight space clearance & one compatible battery type the 40V platform is a hard sell unless they have a 1/2 router up there sleve to push it plus hilti drill only the real power hungry tools will benefit. I dont get the point of a 40V Drill & Impact driver with the weight & girth of battery? 40V Impact wrench for truck wheel nuts on 3/4 square drive that could work?
My company is heavily invested in the 18v platform, but I could see us buying the 40v skilsaw to have a dedicated saw for heavy use
The 40V guard seemed to slide and react better than the old guard. The newer batteries are just more efficient. Glad I didn't buy the $250 special and saved my money for the new one.
Love your vids, thanks for an honest breakdown
Cheers
40V sounded like it had slightly higher rpm
Cuts faster to rpms do seem higher
I would bet the voltage of the 40V is silently higher than that of the 36V one. While the name is really mostly marketing. There been development to dope the battery to have slightly higher voltages. I would bet the 36V really have a load voltage of 37 or even 37,5V, but the 40V is probobly fairly close to 40V.
Now because they are PM-motors one would think that revs would not change due to voltage like DC motors does. But there is probobly a bit of calibration in it.
@@matsv201 I don't know if they increased the nominal cell voltage slightly, but the XGT is also a 10 S system, not a ,,real'' 40 V system with 11 S. Fully charged it will have slightly more than 40 V (normally cell voltage with 100 % SOC is 4.2 V), but the 18 V x 2 has also 10 cells in series (in 2 batteries connected in series) and will have the same voltage with 100% SOC.
@@simonm1447 i swich cell in my lawmower.. and now it will not charge it fully because the new cells have higher maximum.. but also higher minimum voltage... its like 0.2V, but that is sufficent to FU it up
I am a HUGE milwaukee fan boy and i have always heard people saying good of the makita saw and i have purchased this saw ... ohhh boy its a great saw i like it i think its the best sidewinder on the market , yes i have try flex , dewalt , milwaukee , metabo hpt , makita x2 , i need to get my hand on the bl4040f tho , in the battery game with the forge and the supercharger milwaukee are now on top from now
Great video! Don’t forget when comparing cost the corded saw will need a couple cords and a gfci. not as much as batteries but still not cheap for quality stuff.
Great test and comparison! I could be wrong, BUT! I'd be willing to bet a little money that the motor, and most, if not all, of the guts are identical.
That the 40V battery is a 36vMax battery.
That the increased discharge capacity of the 21700 cells is the difference in rpm and performance. OR, it really is a 40v battery and the increased voltage is the difference.
Either way, both are crap to me. Damn blade right saws........ Blade left is where it's at, my man. Haha!
I have the 36v Rear handle Makita and love it. I already have 20 5ah batteries, so it will be a while before I'm ready for any 40v upgrade unless I win another contest and get them for free, which is how I got into the Makita 18v in the first place. I have a metric shit ton of Milwaukee tools and had no intention of entering another platform. But I'm glad I won that contest. Both great tool makers IMO. Cheers!
The XGT is a 10 S system, so it's not a ,,real'' 40 v system, it has only 36 V nominal voltage. I also use the LXT with single battery and 18 V x 2 machines, in my opinion 18 V batteries are better, because they are more flexible, you can make a 18 V 15 cell pack with 21700 s with 12 Ah, but you can't use 15 cells in a 10 S system (only 10 or 20).
For some machinery like a 230 mm angle grinder 144 Wh are not enough, you have 180 (18 V x 2 with 5 Ah) or 200 Wh (18 V x 2 with 6 Ah), but only 144 with one XGT battery.
@@simonm1447 Great point about the 10 cell series multiples. Incremental jumps to the next higher capacity are HUGE in size. Makita took a lot of heat with the 36V X2 platform. Undeservedly so. I think it only makes sense and with Milwaukee would do the same with some of their tools. I'm not holding my breath on that one.
Nice review mate. Thanks for sharing this, very informative.
Thanks for watching!
The 40v are definitely nice, but the 18v & 36v makitas are still fantastic. What I'm really looking forward to is the 80v (40v X2) outdoor power equipment.
Particularly an 80v chainsaw saw with a bigger bar and 80v leaf blower with some serious power. The makita 36v blower is their only tool I haven't been impressed by. Marginal power increase over the 18v and you can get a corded 12 AMP Worx blower that puts out 800 CFM for around $50. I know it's corded but I can't believe the best Makita can do is half the power of a cheap Worx blower for 4x the cost.
Really? I got the 18v blower in a combo kit with the 18v trimmer, and it's awesome. Maybe I'm not a blower aficionado, but I was impressed.
@@travis7500 The 18v has the power and quality you'd expect from makita IMO. But the 36v only has about 5% more power than the 18v.
Get rid of that God awful tip it comes with and replace it with the smaller one asap and it makes a big difference.
Also felt not enough was made of the splashes of red on this tool
Reel game changer for Makita
I’ve always been a Makita man, told my friends the Makita 2x18v battery system is better than the new higher voltage batteries as you don’t have to invest in new batteries. The DeWalt 54v flex seemed cool as it was backwards compatible but you could not run a 54v tool from the old batteries it was not as good. Now Makita brings out the 40v platform, new tools not able to run off old batteries and new batteries not able to power old tools, BIG mistake. Why did they not use the flex tech and go 18v/36v/54v multi purpose battery ? The only thing that might make stay with Makita now is the variety of tools they do, far more than DeWalt but the battery system might now sway me, the batteries are the most expensive part and what wear out the quickest 🤷♂️
It’s because the battery cells are larger and therefore have a higher output. It kinda makes it impossible to use the same platform. Flex volt is old tech. Uses the same cells as the 18v, but they can draw power form all the cells at once, hence the higher output and the ability to be backwards compatible.
i def could hear and see the difference... 40V ALL THE WAY BABY!!!!! .. cant wait to get paid next week and go shopping for my very first 40V MAKITA :)
I’ve tried both of these saws and I still much prefer the makita dual battery rear handle, the feel and power seems a lot better
Have the rear handle 18v x2 and the 18v .Ever since I got the rear handle I hardly ever grab the 18v out of my bags , their is a massive weight difference but it seems to make it easier with holding it one handed free handing rips is effortless.
Andrew Stephenson ahah yeh me too the 18vx2 is the only saw I use now
Dhs780 and 781 is wayy better balanced.
Good video. Showed me exactly what I needed to see.
They need to upgrade their chainsaw to 80v next. Chainsaws require a ton of energy to run. An 80v chainsaw would be awesome. They could easily produce a 40V/10ah battery with today's 21700 technology. That would make a x2 chainsaw run at 80v/10 ah.
It will eventually come but we may have to wait 3+ years.
I give the 18 volt line 5 more years. Makita will transition to the 40v completely at some point imo.
I'm looking forward to seeing you compare these to the HS001 and HS005. :)
A love that 40volt makita saw line the tools look better made than the 18volt lxt ones
Judging only by ear, the 40v had less trouble doing the cuts. All the while using what seems like less power - a decisive win in my book.
What is a good rip fence to use? the normal black one that come with every saw isnt ideal for the HS003G. There is an area like 70mm or something you cannot rip to. Because that rip fence is too small and also the saw base is too wide.
Were you using brand new 18V batteries in this comparison test?
That was my very first thought
Mine too. I think with new batteries the results would have been closer. Also if one battery draining faster than the other, shows different internal resistance, meaning both not of equal condition. Best like for like comparison would demand new batteries on both saws. Like the review though and got me thinking to look for a 2x model. As I have loads of makita 18v batteries already
@@athertop I just bought the kit that comes with the charger and 2 5.0ah and 2 more 5.0 ah for 249 and if I return the batteries the kit comes out to be like 137. Just thought I throw it out there.
@@athertop I stay with 18v platform. It's too much money I already put in. And whenever I need another tool it's easy to buy just body and use it with batteries I already have.
Can hear the 40v had no stress , 36v little less . 40v wins
The only thing that I care about is if they changed the guard or not. The guard on the x2 saw is straight up horrible, gets caught up regularly. From this video it looks like the 40v guard operates better. I hope that is true.
It really does
Hey tools and stuff !! Does the blade guard still get caught when starting a cut ?
That's a good question cuz mine also does that, im trying to order the retracting pulley from the makita XSH10 and install it on the makita XSH06
The makita dhs680z had a different blade that why it stopped half way though cutting the wood.
The video wasn't about that saw anyway, that was a bonus and the blade on it is one of the best you can get. Hard to have the same blade when they are different diameters.
Boa máquina, pena que a serra fica do lado esquerdo, dificulta pra quem tem dificuldade coordenação. Pra visualizar também o corte da serra, na madeira.
seems the xgt just brings more power and less weight to the table i dont have much 18v stuff so im thinking im gonna switch for the tools i do have.
I'm guessing the 18v batteries are older and been through a number of charge-discharge cycles. That may play a part in the battery capacity remaining (and also the packs won't behave in quite the same way under load, which could be why one looses more charge than the other).
It would be interesting to see what the voltage sag under load is of the cells in the 36v batteries.
I test a lot of tools. These batteries are used just for that purpose. They live in a draw away from other batteries, and when I get new batteries (which is on a pretty regular basis) I swap them out. So the ones I use to test tools have usually had very few charge cycles. The 36v uneven drain is not due to one battery being old as the tools tend to drain the same port each time no matter what battery is being used.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL ahh interesting, thanks for confirming
Great video and great tools what more can you ask for
Soooooo jealous. Not available in U.S. yet. Anticipating the SDS review/comparison. I don't own a cordless SDS drill and am kind of glad that I haven't bought one yet. The 40v just might be the one I go for.
Come on with the video! Lol
Coming soon!
any chance you could do rip comparison on these two saws with fully charged batteries on 6x2x16 (in inches) or close material with 22.5 bevel. would really like to see how long the batteries last.
So what was better from what i could see the 40v sounds like higher rpm but the 36v looked like it actually ripped faster.. Is there any difference as far as i know the 18v / 20v thing is just marketing / different calculation so the tools are likely almost identical. I think an 18v lxt battery should be showing 20v thereabouts when running well. So doubling is 40v. I think its just trying to keep up with dewalt etc. Curious to know ive got both lxt 18v and 36v (18x2). Curious if its any different. Ive actually burnt out a couple of 18v batteries over working them and bricking them maybe the 40v less likely to have that happen.
It's just marketing, XGT is a 10 S system with 36 V nominal voltage. The only advantage is they have 21700 cells, which offers more drainage, but one 4 Ah XGT offers less Ah than 2 18 V batteries with 18650s with 5 Ah each.
fantastic video thanks I expect more videos ...
More to come! Next one in 48hrs!
Sweet info.
Makita kicks butt man
Amper hours are difrent under difrent voltages. Keep up good work.👍
What was in your 6 piece pack for them to not include the 'AWS Chip and the Rip Fence'?!
czcams.com/video/6HI6bbiXHAg/video.html 2 tools use AWS from this kit, but no chip included. A chip did come with the mitre saw I reviewed.
This main sound strange but it would be good to see it run and if there is a difference with the dust port removed. It makes a big difference on the 18V especially when cutting wet.
Are you trying to be difficult ;)
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL who me?
Would you prefer 40v or rear handle 36v saw
The 40v 10 1/2" rear handle will be available soon...
Interesting. Does the 36v tools drain the battery in the same position more? Like some design flaw / oversight?
Yes
MAN hard to believe that a circular saw could have 40v of power for a power tool.
The new circular saw Makita XGT 40v is smoother and less noisy but the Makita XTG 36v/18v is noisy and not that smooth but both are doing job quickly and at same time but XGT is way more good
Seems like the guard on the 40 volt retracts easier
The 40v looked to be more powerful and cutting better. However, there’s no way I’m buying new batteries and a new charger and new tools!
Finally figured out who you sound like! Taika Waititi
Non NZers say that to me all the time, but I can't imagine ANY NZer would think so.
We’ve been bamboozled. Check out the depth of cut on the 165mm (HS001) and then compare that to the depth of cut on the pair of 185mm saws (HS003, RS001). What do you notice? 🤯
They always seem to be able to get deeper cuts from a 165mm, and it's not just Makita...
if i dont have the 36v 7 1/4, do you think its justifiable to wait for the 40v 7 1/4 to come out in NA
Sure! Wait for it and compare the prices...
I'm assuming these aren't available in the US? Can't find them on their website
It also has an anti gravitational switch
i liked when the blade was on the other side. why did they do this
Any word on a 40volt rear handle circular saw? I have the x2 rear handle and love it
Ok but 40V saw is brand new right, and how old are the batteries from 18V ?😁 a test with two new sets of batteries would be more reliable I'm just saying. So to me 36V still hold strong especially considering the price tag for switching to 40V
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Is it cumbersome to run it on a rail? Like starting a cut, I can imagine it needs to start "off" the track unlike the plunge track saw?
You can't run this one on a track, but my next video will show you all the ones that will.
Great review thanks
Is there a guide rail adapter for the HS003G?
damn ........ a lot to take in....Once again awesome review Tools & Stuff
The next one has even more to take in. The video would've been hours long if I tested everything on the next tool. And it will be live in 8 hours from now...
Tools & Stuff i saw the notification for this video and waited until i got home from work to watch the whole video uninteruppted :) kids asleep..damn love your work pal!
Ive been running the hs004g for a little over a month now and is a absolute beast! So handy having rail compatibility aswell. Ive bought the impact, eyeing up the sds next. Does anyone know if they are planning to bring Xlock to the 40v grinders?
I imagine they will. but all the grinders at release do not have it.
Why not just make it 2x18V models?
The X2 has been used a bit obviously; wear and tear accumulating gunk in the mechanism could have caused the smallish performance difference. But I’ve noticed the same thing with the batteries wearing out at different rates. Doesn’t seem like there should be any reason for that unless maybe Makita has some of their electronics still running 18V only using one battery. That could also lead to a small disparity in performance.
Why there are 6ah bateries on video when you cut and 5ah when you talk about them?
Because you're not looking at the right saw.
Very thourough run down. 🙏 Thanks
What are Makita's reasons for not making the batteries backwards compatible with the 18v tools just like Dewalt did with their flexvolt system, Milwaukee with their high capacity batteries and MetaboHpt (Hikoki) with their multivolt system? I like many others are too heavily invested in the 18v and 18v x2 system to even consider upgrading to the 40v, would make more sense for me to buy into Dewalt flexvolt because they have more carpentry tools and their batteries wouldn't fit my Makita tools either
Well, life is full of compromises. The only question is where you are making them. Your answer lies in this delta. I suspect that most of the 18x2 tools will be taken off sale eventually and will be replace by the 40V units. The rest of the 18V lineup will stay, probably for a loooong time, since the size and weight of the 40V batteries only makes sense for tools that need a lot of grunt. For the very same reason we still have 7.2V and 12V systems.
So the 40V system is not a replacement but simply another class of devices, which makes sense.
In a nutshell, happy Makita owners will be happy to upgrade if they feel the need to do so. They will keep their 18V stuff and buy themselves a 40V kit, still enjoying the theft protection and wireless dust extraction for all their tools and batteries.
With 320 (!) 18V tools alone, plus corded, petrol driven and 40V it's hard to imagine anyone would not be able to find the tool he needs. Makita tools are affordable, high quality, most of the time at least decent, a lot of the time very good tools for the working craftsmen. That's why you find two of three professionals in europe using Makita.
Great work mate
Cheers
It doesnt make sense to me.
How is it, possible.
2x 5ah = 3600×5 = 36000amps
With an 36v.
While 4ah= 4x3600 ÷ 14400 amps.
With an 40v.
(3600 is seconds in houre)
Can you tell me, how does it the go, using it on real life scenario?
Does it the battery last long?
The dual battery should last two and halfs time longer than the 40v single battery.
Wrong calculation. 40v system has 144wh, and 36v system has 180wh. But 40v system is more efficient so it lasts longer.
It’s the same power 40v max is 36v flat the 18v batteries are 20v fully charged 18v when they are flat so this new 40v range is just 36v stuff with a chunky battery 😂
Do you think the rest of us don't know that?
How the weight distribution?
Essentially both are arguably great tools and yes you’d assume that the newer technology 40v tool should out perform the predecessor 36v tool. What is narking me is that the 36v tools haven’t really been out a significant amount of time, so the longevity of the latter hasn’t in reality been that long, especially if you compare the evolution from the 18v to the 36v. I’m so heavily subscribed to the 18v platform that I simply couldn’t afford or justify launching all of my 18v and 36v kit and buy into the latest 40v gear, as much as I’d like too. I’m concerned about how much longer Makita will support the 18v batteries.
Makita have the largest line-up of 18v tools around. Even if they stopped making the tools, they will keep making the batteries for years to come because it is a cash cow for them. Don't panic! The 18v LXTs are going to be around for a long time. The 40v system is "as well as" not "instead of", just like they still make 12v tools.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
That’s a relief to hear and get my head around, not really thought of it from that angle.
Makita will still make new 18v tools the new line they released is not the replacement its more like a duo. 18v for home use and 40v for heavy duty. So dont panic
18v line up isn't going anywhere.
A better way to think of the battery power is convert to watts (Volts x Amps) 40v x 4amps = 160watts. 36v x 5amps = 180watts so the actual power diffence is only around 12% or 20watts
40v system is also 36v nominal
Are both blades the same and new and are the 18v batteries alder than the 40v? This would obviously make a difference if they are as they don’t hold the same charge after a while.
Commenting on videos without watching them not only wastes my time, but it also makes you look foolish.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I was watching ur video while cooking for my four kids and recovering from a day of plastering. Little harsh as u ended with batteries and why there were inconsistencies. Your video induced me to learn more about batteries, and the Makita new range.
Didn’t realize I’d get ripped a new one for getting involved! I shall keep my stupid mouth shut in future x
Sorry it sounded a bit harsh, but everyday I get accused of not using the right batteries or blades by people who didn't watch properly and it's damn annoying. Anyway if you would like to know more about the batteries and how I now test them before each test (which is more than most Tool reviewers would ever do) then check out this nifty Makita tool czcams.com/video/uumwieLu8CE/video.html
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I actually went through a lot of your videos before seeing your comment. I appreciate your content and the lengths you go to to explain but also demonstrate. I am a big Makita fan, i was debating if I should stick with the 18v or upgrade to the 40v. Decided with the circular saw and mitre saw to definitely go 40v. Then it was which amp 2.5 or the more powerful 5.0. After watching and listening I decided the 2.5 would work fine, little easier on the wallet also!
Didn’t mean to disrespect u, I squeeze in research round the family. I’m a single parent so it’s round the cooking, chores and lunch brakes.
I think u do a really good job on CZcams.
I look forward to more content x
40v plunge saw up next..
I have the sds and the combi drill. The sds is a step forward towards breakers. Its an awesome machine. Combi drill has amazing torque. Plus, got an awesome deal on batteries. I'm tempted by the circular saw, but don't have the need for it. Doesn't mean I won't get it, lol.
Totally agree!
Charger has bild in two wentilator one for batery and one for charger elektronic cooling system so noisy!!!
Check out that Effin blade!
can you check the maximum depth of this circular saw? because i am hesitating to buy between Makita HS001GZ and HS004GZ
if the maximum depth is same. i ll buy hs004gz but if the maximum depth of hs001gz is deeper, i want to buy hs001gz.
I have done depth of cut tests on this saw in a few vids. You will get a little more out of the 04. Th 01 does 66mm and the 04, if it is the same as the 03 will give around 68.5mm, and an extra 2.5mm with a 190mm blade.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL thx for answer me
Funny how u wont mention that the 40v costs twice more haha. I want to buy chainsaw duc353, but im afraid makita will throw out new 40v chainsaw, so my chainsaw will become obsolete and the 18v makita will die wout. Since everything will be 40v. In few years makita will probably transfer all tools to 40v, it has to battle others on the market. So tell me, should i buy now the 36v duc353 chainsaw ?
I have the 353, it's really a good machine. However if you want to be sure you could also wait a couple of month, because there are rumors they will bring out a lot of new XGT machinery in 2021.
There are also adapters on market for other battery systems, so it would be even possible to use the 353 with 2 18 V 12 Ah Milwaukee batteries, a true killer combination ;-)
@@simonm1447
I bought the 353, and i took 2×6ah batteries. Not very happy. Not at all. Watched million of reviews before i bought it, and still failed. Battery just dies after few +30 cm wide logs
@@i1bike That' a little bit strange, what type of wood do you cut, and is the chain really sharp?
I mostly cut softer wood like spruce (we have a lot of them here), hard wood may have an influence on the runtime.
But 30 cm is at the upper limit of this saw, especially if it would be hard wood.
However you always need at least 4 batteries for 18 V x 2 machinery, to charge 2 while using the other 2 for work. I also charge in the forest with a truck battery and a camping inverter. If you use it with full power the whole time the charger isn't fast enough to recharge it until you would need it.
@@simonm1447
Hi, im from croatia, im cutting olive trees, which are generally softer trees and full of oil. Chain is sharp i bought stihl's sharpener, but new chain was pre-sharpened. Im not cutting 30 cm wide, i just had dead olive and tried it on the dead olive. Usually, i cut 15-20 old branches that went too high. I thought the saw would be efficient for the amount of work i had, but it isnt. I still have to buy real chainsaw for the dead olive, so it is 700 euros for duc353 and 500 more euros for stihl ms231. So, 1200 euros cuz of my stupidity. I wanted to sell the duc353, but there is only poverty around me, and whoever has olives, uses stihl ms231 haha. They laugh at me now cuz i wanted to be smartass haha. I had previously 2×3ah from the drill, thats why i bought the duc353, but sometimes on 15 cm log those 3ah batteries just stop working. I put them to charger and they are on half battery haha. And those 3ah are also young. Generally, the duc353 for what is made for, with 6×6ah batteries is sufficient for everyone. Dont get me wrong, makita cuts fast as stihl, but batteries dry like hell. I would need 4×6ah and 2×3ah, for optimal work. Problem is that in croatia, one 6ah makita battery costs 200 euros. Which means my options are, either spend 400 euros more for two more 6ah batteries, or to buy stihl ms231 for 500 euros. Tell me what should i do, im not smart anymore. I also, came to an idea that, since i dont have much tools at home, i could buy bunch of fake makita tools to somehow justfy the money tearing i just did haha. Family already says that im mentally ill, and that im digging my own money pit haha. But i just love the name my friend, cant get enough of it haha. Its comedy time everytime when im working with it. Cuz we call makita here, the mala-kita. Which literally means small penis haha.
@@i1bike If you need the full power for a longer time it sometimes get too hot, this is indicated by the blinking lights at the battery gauge. However, this is not the battery, it's the motor and the inverter, but it's for protection, the saw can't get damaged by this. I also have an older 230 V Stihl chainsaw, which don't shut off, but starts to smoke if you use it too hard.
I use different batteries, from 3 Ah to 5 Ah, it usually have more power with 5. I don't have 6 Ah.
What is also important to look after is the bar oil, with a gas saw you fill it with the gas, but with a battery saw it's easy to forget it. If it runs without bar oil, or with too little, it has more friction and drains the battery much faster. I adjusted mine to the maximum amount of oil, you can adjust it at the bottom of the saw. The same for the chain tension, it should not have extremely much chain tension because this also costs more energy.
A battery saw has to be used a little bit different than a gas, you have to get a little bit a feeling for it, how hard you can push it without stressing it too much.
I never cut olive trees, because we have none of them in Germany.
Yo am I the only one that finds it much harder cut cut accurately with these new 36v 40v saw compared to say just a 1200 watt corded saw.
I swear just something about them that feels off. Or am I literally the only one
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Hi it looks like the pendulum guard on the 36v (18×2) gets stuck when you first push it through the timber the 40v doesn't seems easier to push through the timber
I noticed that too. I can say the guard on my 18x2 likes to get stuck if the cutting depth is not set close to the thickness of the wood.
But it’s nice for plunge cuts to get the guard moving so you don’t have to do it by hand.
I have never seen a piece of wood screwed to the guide for extra support while ripping.......
You haven't lived.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I know. So many in build features on tools a non tradie has to learn.
Most rip guides have a couple of holes in them. Chuck a couple of screws into a piece of wood and you have a much more stable surface particularly at the beginning and end of each rip.
If you want to see better performance in your 18v/36v tools you need to use 5 amps batteries i noticed on the 18v brushless you were using the 6 amp. I find it really suffers with that.
It looks like 40v has faster rpm than 36v and also cuts faster
Any more purple tool?
Yep... soon.
I've watched this view a lot of times bc I have makita dhs 680 (18v saw) and I'm interested in 40v, but only now I understood that there is a wrong blade on the makita 18v saw for cutting off 50mm wood, I guess she could've shown a bit better result in this test. anyway thanks for sharing great reviews
Regarding battery capacity:
XGT: 36V (40V max) at 4Ah ~ 144Wh
LXT: 18v at 5Ah ~ 90Wh (the capacity stays the same when using 2 batteries because they run them in series to get 36V)
So, the 40V version has 60% more capacity than the 18V, that's why there's a difference in the remaining capacity.
No, the capacity on the 36V is 180Wh. If you run 2x18V batteries in series they become 36V, and still 5Ah. So 36V*5Ah=180Wh.
Fekillix No, that’s not how it works, google it.
@@strahinjakupusinac You are mistaken. As another example, the old LXT 5Ah and the new XGT 2.5Ah are basically the same battery, same cells inside. But the configuration is different. 18V is 5S2P and 40V is 10S1P. Both are 90Wh capacity.
18V has two arrays of 5 cells in parallel. Each array is 2.5Ah 18V, when connected in parallel the voltage is the same but the capacity doubled, so 5Ah. The single height 18V packs are 2Ah, 5S1P configuration. The 40V pack has 10 cells that are all in series, the voltage is therefore 40V and the capacity only 2.5Ah.
Fekillix yea, you are right, my brain is not working today it seems 🙂
Glad we got that sorted out!
More pew pew!
Take them apart !? And see
Hard to beat the 36v rear handle Makita.
What's the chip for
AWS - Automatic Wireless Startup. Pull the trigger on the saw and your vacuum automatically starts up.
Will the 36 V tool run with a single 18 V battery
No. What would be the point?
Less weight when cutting through 3/8” plywood soffit before installing aluminum over.
In 10 years I will be nearly 70 years old and my shoulders feel horrible.
I’m getting old !