Ep #9: When the American Dream Goes Up in Flames: Triangle Shirtwaist Fire | Dark History Podcast
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- Hi friends, happy Thursday!
Welcome to the Dark History podcast. Today, we are going to talk about the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire, where 146 garment workers lost their lives. This tragic story lives at the intersection of greedy capitalism, immigrant exploitation and social justice. Workers fighting for basic rights found themselves fighting for their lives.
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Triangle Shirtwaist Fire Chapters:
00:00 Intro
04:36 GREENWICH HISTORY
07:29 ISSAC HARRIS & MAX BLANCK
10:07 TRIANGLE SHIRTWAIST COMPANY
12:37 THE FACTORY
16:42 WORKING CONDITIONS
19:55 THE STRIKE
25:04 THE FIRE
28:25 TRYING TO ESCAPE
31:34 STUCK INSIDE
35:00 THE OUTSIDE PERSPECTIVE
40:18 MAX & ISAAC’S TRIAL
44:29 THE AFTERMATH
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Chelsea Durgin from Slash Mgmt, Bailey Sarian, Fanny Baudry, and Claire Turner from Wheelhouse DNA
Producer: Lexxi Kiven, Derrial Christon, Spencer Strasmore
Research provided by: Tisha Dunstan & Jed Bookout
Writers: Jed Bookout, Michael Oberst, Joey Scavuzzo and me - Bailey Sarian
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Historical Consultants: Edvige Giunta (Co-editor of the forthcoming of Talking to the Girls: Intimate and Political Essays on the Triangle Fire www.edvigegiunta.com/) and Mary Anne Trasciatti and the Remember The Triangle Fire Coalition (for more information go to www.rememberthetriangefire.org)
Video Director: Trent Barboza and Eric Abell
Edited by: Jim Luci
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The fact that this woman is using her platform to crowdfund for a Rosewood museum 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. This is how you ally, people.
She makes 5 million a year on you tube alone and doesn't even write these podcasts, she could build it herself
@@tara6460 😒
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@@tara6460 she literally does write these podcasts?? She has said that multiple times. Learn something please.
@@tara6460 she helps write, like, watch until the end credits. She’s doing so much more than a lot of our so called ally’s, like yourself. Have you educated people about rosewood? Have you used your platform to help further our voices?? Have you protested and spoken out against systemic racism? She can’t just build a museum, thats not how that works?? You need historians and other people to help, 5 million dollars doesn’t build an entire museum. Let us enjoy what she does for us because honestly, the rest of you do jack squat sometimes.
Some more facts: 1) most of the immigrant employees were relatives. Mother’s and ALL her daughters were frequently hired together. 2) remember the escape option to the roof? Nay nay. Isaac and Max not only used the staircase to the roof, AND locked it, but kept the key in one of their pockets. 3) Women were leaping to their deaths before the fire department came. 4) some survivors kept diaries which were shared publicly. More than one wrote about watching their friends and relatives literally melt. One made it to the elevator and closed the door on her sister. She never forgave herself. 5) When the bodies of the dead were brought to the pier, they were laid on the ground squished next to one another and were displayed in their grotesque burnt remains. Husbands and families came day after day hoping to find their loved ones by jewelry that hadn’t been destroyed, unique shoes, or ahead of its time: dental work or missing teeth. 6) There were actually 4 elevators. Only 1 worked. 7) 36 people died in the elevator shaft just jumping down to avoid the heat. 8) As people were jumping to try to survive, many fell on hoses and slowed down the firefighters trying to do anything. 9)Some of the dead on the pier had been grave robbed -had their jewelry stolen before their families could claim them. 10) There are lots of sites and lists of the dead, but the PBS Documentary I felt was the most informative and had tons of photographs and newspaper images to expand on Bailey’s story. About 14 years ago, I worked on a college research project about this tragedy. I still feel connected to it. Thanks Bailey for informing a new generation.
What if you worked there and reincarnated👀 Can we look into that👀
@The Maelström not nice
Wow thank you
@The Maelström you’ll see😌😂
@@Claireannette77 Don’t laugh, there are documentaries that give pause to the possibilities of this.😬
The term gilded actually refers to a covering of gold paint in order to transform a material like metal or iron into a prettier alternative. The gilded age is supposed to mean that there was an illusion of great wealth and prosperity at this time in society because of industrialization, but in reality the quality of life for most people was very poor.
Gilded age society did have wealth & sadly would cause war.
Coined by Mark Twain!
Yes that's true. I actually remember learning that and I was like "Bailleyyyyyy I know whyyyyy "
Bailey's a real hero for doing the ads herself so we can fast forward them if we want. I still watch them though cause she's adorbs
Anyone else downloaded best fiends cause Bailey plays it?
I use em for snack breaks 🤷♀️
that apostrophe though.. might try that.
sammeeee
I didn't look up the date of this specific video/podcast... but! When I have a brokenhearted or a re entry lonely one I can't do ANYTHING, and I'm a dude. Women aren't the only emotional ones. Been 2 years yet I'm still so lost but seeing Bailey still kicking it on mmm and her new dark mysteries - in general. - makes me amazed of her more. Keep kicking asse Bail and you are an inspiration! I Think. Think I heard YOU made the decision to say the goodbye. I've never ever been the one to do that. I learned most men cheating or not Usually won't leave UNLESS HE Has been cheating anyways and has a woman togo to
, my questioning info proves this to me. Yup. I used to ask friends taxi drivers ect
Just cements fact of how strong you as most women are for we stay to the bitter end often zero clue to us. i know yend I didn't wanna p
DIY ADs are a hit.. you simply..do you.. and raw unashamed 'listen, learn, leave a thumb ' attitude of VIEWERS. Honesty.. honestly..
Remembering the victims 110 years later. We owe to them, Never forget. and there is more progress to be made, unsafe workplaces exist today still.
Yes Ma'am!!! NEVER forget 😘
I live in Houston Texas by way of Louisiana❤️❤️❤️
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great comment
Hello from Houston! never forget ❤
The former factory is now NYU's chemistry department. Dunno if it still happens but when I was still dorming nearby someone left a flower with the name of each victim alongside the building for the anniversary. My friend did a projection art peice commemorating the 2017 anniversary...
@@Karthonic aww what a sweet comment. I hope they still do it. maybe Bailey doing the story will inspire someone to look into it in the area
If I was a History teacher I would literally just put on Bailey’s Dark History and hand out popcorn
I am a history teacher and I am totally using her videos... just got to figure out how to take out the f word!!
Hehehe
The f word though .... It's incessant.
ummm NO....she is not always accurate. ive caught things in a couple stories that were very much incorrect
@@rayannaandrade6337 I agree with you on this account too
"Dream big, even if you can't say words, you can accomplish things in life" - Keeping this quote to motivate every 8 yr old out in the world.
I needed this quote and I’m not 8y/o 😅😅
So, downloaded and bleeped the f word !! My high schoolers LOVED it. They said that this was the best video they have watched all year! They are actually interested in learning more. After 16 months online, they have lost the will to live, this video may have come in the nick of time! You are a hit Bailey!! Keep it coming!
i wish i had teachers like you when i was in school !!
can u email me the bleeped version so i can send it to my history teacher 🌚
Thank you for being such a great teacher! I would’ve killed to know my teacher knew my will to live was not high
I was thinking about showing a few of her videos to my students. How do you bleep the f word out?
This is so freaking cool.
All of Bailey's Dark History hairstyles give me serious 90s vibes...
I think that’s on purpose
I just said that to my daughter!!
It's supposed to lol
I love it!
Same!!!
Hi! I actually studied this case specifically in college and wrote a thesis paper on it as well! This was an amazing episode, probably my favorite yet. Just a couple of things to add on for those extra interested history junkies :) ...
1) children from ages 5-15 were often urged (practically forced) to work in these factories as well to 'build character, respect, and obedience'
2) a majority of the women who were targeted for work were unmarried, young women. Often, their fathers would be contacted and offered an 'opportunity' for their daughters...as you can guess, the majority of them happily agreed to send off their little girls (12-22 years) and the women were unable to get out unless they married a man (women weren't allowed to work when they were married back then)
3) The fire escapes were closed out of paranoia that the women would steal the textiles and supplies for their personal use at home...they were also closed so that women couldn't use a cigarette smoke break as an excuse to escape their work duties
4) the women (and a few progressive men) who protested were actually brutally harassed, beaten, and even killed by police & other authority figures who were HIRED to do so by Harris and Blanck so they could speed up the process of 'coming to an agreement' for work conditions
5) during the fire, workers crammed large groups of people into the elevator to try and escape. Sadly, the power to the elevator was cut (either on accident by the fire or on purpose by the security guards, we are still unsure) and tens of workers were burned alive. when recovery efforts proceeded the fire, groups of workers were found in the elevator box and at the bottom of the elevator shaft holding hands and hugging each other
Smdh, I can't even imagine such a nightmare. 😳😥😥💔
Thank you so much for the extra info, it's crazy how far we've come in fire safety and workers rights
Thanks for the extra reading! I follow a podcast on Spotify called Haunted Places and it covered this story as well. Truly horrible.
“Coming to an agreement”, yes of course. The agreement of “you’ll accept my previous terms and go back to work.”
That last one is so complicated to describe… sad. Lovely, in a way. But most definitely truly haunting.
And this kids is why we have unions :) There are tons of stories like this. My great grandpa was actually killed on his way home from union organizing. The "thugs" often Pinkerton's were also common.
Thanks for sharing Bailey. You are one of the best story tellers!
Can’t sleep anymore without Bailey reading me bedtime stories 😂
Same!
Thank you for talking about this. One of my ancestors died in the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fires. Her name was Rosie Shapiro, she was a Jewish immigrant and she was only around 18 years old when she died. It's so important that we teach future generations about this tragedy so that it never happens again. 💔
That is a tragic loss. I'm sorry.
I’m so sorry for your loss. So glad you posted and added to the story.
We were taught about this story in history class when I was about 12 years old. And we watched a movie. I was horrified
HOLD UP- IM IN 5TH GRADE AND KIDS ACTED THIS OUT! DIDNT SHE JUMP OUT OF THE WINDOW? BC SHE WAS ONE OF THE MAIN CHARACTERS AND ITS HER BC IT SAID SHE WAS JEWISH! R.I.P. ROSIE!
As soon as she said "shirtwaist" I got excited...I did a paper about this tragedy during my undergrad studies...my wife just rolled her eyes and said "Let Bailey tell it!!!"...and I was surprisingly ok with this...lol
It’s so cool to see a guy enjoying her videos I know a lot of men that find this stuff annoying & I’m not sure why. Glad you enjoyed it!
Same!
I had written a paper on this too. I am.a history buff so I love her version of a lot of these topics and sharing information that most people don't know.
@@valkyriesommers420 my husband watches it with me sometimes and he would never say it but he gets totally into it 🤣
i learned about this in junior year history
Can we all just appreciate Bailey, and her fabulous 90's hair for a moment?! 👏👏👏🔥
The moment your oldest son in Junior year gets an assignment in school and he knows all about it. To the point the teacher was impressed. When she asked how do you know so much about this. "Well I know it because of Bailey Sarian My Dark History Teacher". Now helping kids in High School with their assignments. lol Thank you for everything you do. I have never seen him so excited about history.
I think adding an episode covering the Radium Girls would be a really neat episode for the podcast. 💀
The photos are terrifying and sad
Or the Japanese 'comfort' women. Tragic story...also Japanese internment camps here in America.
I literally just finished reading the book my grandma had about the radium girls !
Yesss
Yes!
My history teacher actually said something pretty interesting about the name “gilded age”. Gilding something means to cover something in gold to make it seem nicer, so on the surface it look all nice and shiny, but on the inside it was anything but.
Like this year's Olympic gold medals? I saw a TikTok of an athlete's medal peeling
It might be mandatory to explain the word because I remember my history teacher explaining it a similar way "It looks like gold but it's not gold" Explains the society at that time well because it was the creation of the American Dream™ but then you have stuff like child labor, exploitation of the poor and immigrants, Jim Crow laws, elitism, and the foundation/struggle for the economic systems of what we know as capitalism and communism.
That’s a great way to explain it.
Hhmmm so like can we use to describe a person? Gilded soul? Or she’s soooo gilded? Lol
@@iloveyourvibez The Gilden Boy
Unrelated to most this episode. Thank you so much for owning your flaws. I have a crippling fear of failure and you saying things like "I thought it was Izayick until YESTERDAY" makes me face the fact I can mess up sometimes and still do great things. 💙💙💙
The triangle is the shape of the front pleats basically, we studied this fire in college lol so when you look at the shoulders that is the longest point and then it’s typically pleated into a smaller point shape toward belly. Giving it the name triangle shirt waist 😃
I couldn't be more obsessed with anyone more than I am this woman and her stories. Truly incredible ❤️
You know she never imagined she would become a cultural icon when she made that Chris and Shannan Watts video. I'm so glad I've been here since to start.
Right she's my favorite CZcamsr
Are you ok
Hailey Elizabeth is also an amazing storyteller who uses makeup in her videos. When there’s no new Baileys I have been watching her videos and I’m really pleased with the content, very interesting.
Amen!!
It’s always hard to wrap my head around the fact, that things like this, had to have happened in order to learn certain things. Humans will forever be evolving.
They have not evolved yet.
I work on the railway in the uk and we say that our rule book is written in blood. Today it’s very safe to travel on but it’s sad we had to learn the hard way.
Unfortunately slower than we should be. 😂🤣😂
And rich people still profiting off the lives and deaths of the poor. Some things never change.
I wouldn't say had to happen. I would say people with money and power will only do the bare minimum until they are absolutely forced to do more.
They named it the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory because the area they were located in of the building was the shape of a triangle. The shirtwaist blouse also gave a triangular form style. The building was once named The Asch Building after the developer Joseph Asch. Today, it is named the Brown Building, but because of this tragedy it is still widely referred to as The Waist Factory/ The Shirtwaist Factory. 😁
The owners of the Triangle plant had a second plant called Diamond Shirtwaists. It is so sad that this had to happen. Harris and Blanck like so many other sweatshop owners would have their buildings torched if they were losing money. It was easier to collect the insurance money than design a new garment. They received $400 per dead worker while they paid the families $75.
I learned about this in college studying interior design. It was a huge issue that helped shape the building and fire codes that we use today!
Hey I’m an- Echavarria -👋
I love how when learning about this in school they pointed out the new rules put into place for better working conditions but not that the men who were directly responsible were not punished. 🙃
Idk how people don’t connect this to the recent shooting at FedEx. For production purposes people weren’t allowed to have phones so were sitting ducks unable to call 911 immediately during an emergency. This is still happening -peoples lives being risked for the potential profit of a few who want to squeeze as much labor as possible with minimal pay.
Bailey: I look like-
Me: Lizzie Mcguire
Bailey: Medusa
me: Medusa yep
She and I said Medusa at the same time 😂
When I was in high school my history teacher gave me a book to read about this fire. It was written from the perspective of a teen who worked in the Triangle factory. I believe it was just called “Triangle”. It was a great book and I recommend to anyone who likes reading history related fiction books.
Just watched a documentary about the fire for school. So nice to hear Bailey talk about it too. Each life was VALUED at $2 per person. With insurance money, ANOTHER factory was opened with the same conditions.
I was NOT expecting that hair-do 💀 kinda living for this Medusa vibes tho
It’s very late 90s early 2000s and I’m living for it! 😍 add some butterfly clips next time?! 🦋
Bailey the hair doo rocks
i wasn’t either but i love it lol
Makes me think if the early 2000's lol
Love it tho she looks great as always
I would love an episode of dark history about the “radium girls”
Me too
that's been overdone.
Yes
I feel like she mentioned them in one of the MM&M videos from that time period. It's far too well known a story for Dark History though, the fun of these videos is that most of us don't know the history in them. The Radium Girls have been done to death on all kinds of shows and stuff.
Me too
I love how Americans have always hated "immigrants" when they are all basically immigrants haha
also, I love this woman, she makes everything extremely interesting, only channel I don't watch on x2 speed
That’s true lol but they didn’t consider people American unless they where of British stock as the term American came from the English colonies
@@nathantisdale2013 Hmm interesting theory but I remember from my Geography classes in elementary school that term America comes from the name od Amerigo Vespucci (Italian explorer) and America is a Latinized version of Amerigo.
How many people do you know that hate immigrants??
Is it becuz we have to take vax but they don't
Or is it that they come into our country and work for cheap
If they come in properly they could be paid same as Americans
They are now citizens not immigrants and i bet you are one
Try watching MrBallen. He's awesome too
I literally stopped listening to this episode on Spotify just so I can come here to check out your hair and I'm LIVING FOR IT! 😍🙌
When I was about 11 I read a book called “Of Bread and Roses”. It’s all about this tragedy from a fictional character’s point of view, being a young woman caught in the fire. While it may be more geared towards kids, it’s a great read to get some historical insight.
While I didn't read the book you mention. I did read one called "Ashes of Roses" that was a fiction take on this event.
@@KAWAIIsenjo4913 I WAS JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER THE NAME OF THAT BOOK!!! i read it in 6th grade and fell in love with it!!
didn't they make a movie based on this? because I don't remember the book but my film class in highschool showed us this movie
there’s also another book called “Uprising” that follows the stories of three fictional girls who befriend each other and the book shows what their lives are like up until the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire. it’s a rly fascinating book that goes into the minds of these young girls and captures what their hopes and dreams are despite the horrible working conditions they deal with
@@Maria10280802 There was, but it was an attempt at capitalist propaganda trying to act like the union set the fire.
We are going to start needing tutorials on the hairstyles cause, they are too cute.
Yassss her hair styles are always amazing
Yes, we need this.
Yes please!
Well we have mystery and makeup, how about history and hairdo?
YES!! That would be amazing! I really need help in that department 😄
When you started talking about shirt waist I immediately was like “oh this is about the triangle shirt waist factory fire that was super f*ed up.” I remember it being a blurd in my history book in high school when we talked about the gilded age but it didn’t get enough discussion, like most history topics. Would recommend talking about the Japanese internment camps from WWII. I have read a lot about it. Also agent orange from the Vietnam war (also love the hair!)
the hair gives me Delia from beetleguese vibes! also i’m so glad you did this story. i learned about this in school at about 9 years old. this event that has always stuck with me
U mean Lydia?
It's giving me David Bowie from "The Labyrinth" vibes, and I'm totally here for it!
Lydia Deets ? 🤨
Watching a podcast about the Triangle Shirtwaist fire while sewing on an antique machine is a trip. Reminds me to clean out the lint from the mechanical bits...
I was the only one on my previous job to clean the lint trap in the dryer. It's a miracle it hasn't burned down without me.
lol you feel their spirits😅
“ I like being cold and don’t like sweating”. -thank you.
Same!!!
Same here. I'm a big girl so I got a lot of natural insulation that needs to be cooled off. Not a fan of the heat and it is getting hotter here in SoCal. 🥵
@@trollrat2828 SAME!!!!
My history teacher talked about this and I cried, it was so so so sad and unfortunate that these women died such a horrible way
I love how the dark history is numbered. Helps me keep track of what I've watched and what I haven't 🖤 my 10 yr old daughter and I watch you every morning waiting for the bus. 😊
BUT WHERE IS #2? It's making me crazy
I work in a warehouse and every single day I’m grateful for those who fought and died for us to have worker’s rights. Workers of the world unite 💗
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Please do a podcast on the Radium Girls - the story reminds me somewhat of this one but it’s about women dying from radiation
Oo or the Goiânia Accident dubbed the Brazilian Chernobyl
@@jessatx I’ve not heard of that one.
@@katj3443 definitely worth googling
They painted watch faces with radium which the bosses said was safe. Till it wasn't. The women's jaws rotted and fell off. Yep, always trust the bosses.
I thought she did the Radium girls.
I learned about the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire in 8th grade because I had one of the most amazing history teachers ever. Shoutout to Mr. Roy Sovis!
I'm a NYC native - born and raised - and I had only learned about this from one of my fashion merchandise classes in college to teach us about safety standard policies in factories, it's such a tragic event and I couldn't understand why this wasn't taught in middle or high school. Also when you get the chance please do an episode on Seneca village, love love your videos 💛✨
Can we just appreciate that Bailey hasn’t changed het content over time to be ‘monetisation-friendly and had stayed true to the stories every time despite the issues with ads🥺a true crime queen x
Absolutely!!!
I feel like I’ve read this exact comment but for someone else
Secret societies would be a subject I would love to hear, here on dark history.
Yes! Great idea. I would love to hear about stuff like that.
Agreed!
YES!!
Yes the masons
@@corielyn7670 there are others too like The Odd Fellows for example.
I’m 13 and don’t have money on my card but I will share because this is an amazing cause and I wish they would tell us these big parts of history these things need to be talked about for the survivors and for the ones lost
I’m a Florida resident that learned about this in high school and thank you for your passion behind this project along with the story. It was horrible learning about it.
Surprisingly, not many have heard about the history of their own state.
Thank you as always Miss Bailey for keeping all of us creatively learning.
Respect ✨🙌✨
We learned about this in my high school American History class. I've been fascinated ever since. My teacher used this as a transition into Women's Suffrage. He felt that it was a big jumping point for the movement, and I kinda agree. If the women protesting would've been taken seriously, this could've ended differently!
Jumping point
Just when we think Bailey's hair couldn't get more iconic...she serves us 90's Medusa 🐍😍
She’d make an awesome Medusa she’s absolutely stunning.
This style was popular in the early 2000's
Btw, after rewatching Crazy Ex-Girlfriend (s 1 ep 4) Rebecca comments on the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire…. Since I have seen Bailey’s Dark History episode, I understood the reference! I’m soooo happy to be learning and remembering these historic events (concerns) that were not always mentioned nor known. I know these episodes are getting frustrating to talk about (we can’t change the past but we can do better for the future), please know you make a huge difference by giving voices, empathy and empowerment to the victims and survivors of these stories. People are learning a lot and bonding over so many different topics and cultures. Thank you Bailey!!!!
Not laughing about the story but “fire friendly” 😂. I love the way that you tell stories.
I clicked on this straightaway! I live in New York and I wasn't aware that there's a commemorative ceremony every year at the site until I almost literally stumbled on it several years ago. Your Dark History is so interesting - and I say that as somebody who writes about dark history!
You write about dark history? I bet you find out some crazy stuff not a lot of people know. I would love to do that. WAY COOL😻
@@b-e-a-utifuldisaster2536 At times I am beyond amazed by what people have actually done! 😉
My friend did a protection memorial on it in 2017! I went to Tisch and dormed on W 3rd street not that far from the building. Not sure if there's video of it though!
@@Karthonic Cool! 🙂
"I can't even speak English, but I'm hosting a podcast! Dream big, kids!" 😂
*Cries over my degrees and student loan debt*
That was sooo funny!!
😂😂😂
I just love her honesty!
"Who's Googling Shirwaist at 2 in the morning?" Any historical fashion seamstress looking to make a shirtwaist and wants inspiration and/or a pattern ;)
I'm currently catching up on all your Dark History and we JUST covered this tragedy in my Lit class because we were studying a poem inspired by this event.
Dear whoever is reading this, I wish there was a way for everyone to surpass the current obstacles or sadness/ stress and let happiness enter your heart! i truly sense and know you will have a beautiful life ahead of you! Nothing in life is ever easy, but what's important is that YOU keep going!
Youre worthy of love and happiness, never allow anyone to tell you otherwise! I wish all of you plenty of health and strength during these tough times. You are loved, you are strong, you got this! Never forget that!
Sending much Love over from Germany 💕🙏✨
I needed to hear this. Been going thru it, thank you.
Thank you 🥺🖤
Thank you! 💕
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I needed to hear this ❤ Thank you 🥺
“Very Lisa Frank”
*Starts nervously sweating and wondering what’s wrong with Lisa Frank*
Right! She needs to talk about this!
Same 😨
If memory servers, workers were treated horribly by Lisa herself and in terms of working environment. I really hope she talks about it because the story is nuts.
SO!!! Here's the tea.
Not only were Lisa Frank workers treated horrendously... The company ripped off of a neuro-divergent woman of color. The woman is Amina Mucciolo of Studio Mucci. She's an artist who had made an apartment she lived in into what she called Cloudland - which took off with a following on social media.
To make a long story short; The Lisa Frank company had interacted with her, liked her posts on instagram even; and shortly after her landlord wouldn't accept her and her partner's payment to renew. Why? Because Lisa Frank was opening a rip-off of Cloudland in a near by location to rent to people. So basically they not only ripped off of an artist of color, they got her kicked out of her home as well. And she had to scramble to find another place to live. You can look it up and read all about the tea.
@@sydneybethelmy8605 Illuminaughti has an episode about it.
Thank you as usual Bailey. You should be required watching in school curriculum. My mother who was born in 1915, taught me this history. Her mother immigrated from Italy and arrived at Ellis Island.
Wow ,workers had it so hard back then
Makes me furious those owners got off Scott free and made so much money off their workers deaths 🤬 thank you Baily for this story ❤️
I definitely learned about this in school
But not in this depth.
They never told us what a shirt waist was😂
I remember reading a book about it but I’m blanking on the name of it!
Uprising!
I remember learning about this too but they definitely didn't go this deep
I’m starting to realize how great my teacher actually was in school because she did go this far in depth if not further about almost everything I’m this era of women rising/ coming of the steel era and we definitely took it for granted; luckily now I have Bailey to remind me and make me think back on this teacher atleast. Kudos to people like them making history worth it and remembered.
Can we also talk about how Bailey is matching donations to make the move possible?! Love her! 🖤🏠
@@ClaireH1418 🤔
@@ClaireH1418 as seen in another user's comment in the main comments, you need to click the museum drop-down. Perhaps under donations.
@@ClaireH1418 it’s definitely there, you have to pick it from 3 options in a drop down menu. It says ‘save the wright house’ or something like that 👍
@@loisreese2692 No I don’t think she would lie. I was just saying that I couldn’t find the link to donate.
@@ClaireH1418 fair enough
I love just listening to her while studying! It really helps me to stay focused and get my things done. Thank you Bailey :)
WHY do businessmen get away with EVERYTHING!!!!? When will we realize that letting immorality slide on account of money is going to be our downfall!!!! 🤦♀️
I need a t-shirt that says "eye frickin' roll"
Great merch idea 😍😍😍
Sad thing is that these factories still exist today in other countries with the same dangers and same tragedies….
Yes!!!! And if you bring it up to people to shine light on the situation they automatically get defensive.
And we all wear their products 😏
@@angela72ish just like the shirt factory in this video
@@Freepatchclub yeah like “well that’s not MY fault. Wasn’t MY decision to start doing that!” Like “yes, Janet, I’m aware, no one is accusing you of being the mastermind behind sweatshops. but these things are highly preventable and a product of conscious decisions by specific known people, and you have a responsibility to care at the very least”
Some companies may even surprise you!!.... Just don’t ✔️ (I was told this by my science teacher in 2018 so maybe it’s not true/still happening)
Bailey’s “CONFIDENCE” is what our kids need to be taught in middle school so they may be a little more prepared for high school! (I’m telling you kids Dream Big even if you can’t say words right, You can accomplish anything in life!!)( I’m sure I didn’t quote Bailey accurately) This is my new quote! Bailey is 💯 RIGHT & NEEDS TO BE ON TED Conferences! I can’t pronounce some words correctly and I love how she’s honest to the core! This makes this dark history Brighter in more ways than her Beautiful Smile! Bailey you are Amazing!🌟💎⚓️🖤☝️
I'm a tailor who was born and raised in NY so I grew up learning allllllll about the triangle shirtwaist fire - but hearing your coverage of it still somehow makes it all new again. Such a horrible tragedy that led to a lot of changes in the US work force. If you want a really awesome companion piece to this video, check out the death in the afternoon podcast's episode "the least worst death". This video and that podcast pair incredibly well
can we just appreciate the effort Bailey Sarian puts into these for us every day.
Absolutely 🖤🤍🖤🤍
So fully agree. It takes a ton of research, editing time and other things I'm sure I don't fully get. Ahew truly works hard in these and I enjoy them. Thanks Bailey 😊
It's definitely a full time job!
She certainly isn't doing this series alone. She's got a team with researchers and writers. =)
We truly don't deserve her!
We need a shirt that says “We are living thru some dark history” cause, ya know, we are.
I'd definitely buy it!
she needs to see this I’d definitely buy 🖤
For reals! Big corporations placing profits above people’s safety and the government helping them. We never seem to learn from history.
I WILL BUY IT IMMEDIATELY
Yes!!!
Love how out of all the important history you've covered, this is the only one I learned about in school
I would love to have a journal in the style of the Dark History book - I think that's a great cover for a journal!
Triangle waist, refering to the ideal shape of a woman's upper body at the time. Usually created using corsets and shirts designed to highlight the v, or triangle, shape.
Or...the name of the building because it was triangled shaped. 🤷♀️
@@Seamonkey555 the building isn't triangular, it's just the corner of a block.
The triangle is definitely referring the the clothing, because the idea was that the shoulders were wide like a man's shirt, but the waist was cinched like women's clothing. They were literally shirts meant to give a triangle figure.
She's exactly right. It's the shape of the body. It's inverted. Shoulder down to the tip which is the waist.
Thank you!
yep came here to say this... a lot of women used horribly tight corsets to squish their waists as teeny as possible, often using corsets made from animal bones. sometimes even causing damage to their internal organs from squeezing em so tight😵
LOVING the Medusa look. Also does anybody else find Bailey’s voice soothing?
Very. Her down to earth personality, and her voice completely reel me in!
So much so that I actually fell asleep twice 😴 had to go back and start again....
@@gentrykoda me too! shes such a wonderful, genuine person!
@@mumtazamiri6409 lol I've been there MULTIPLE times lol.
I am in loveeee with the new series. & sooo appreciate of how much digging you do to paint us a clear picture!! 🥰
I learned about this event in high school but I love how much detail you included and that I still learned something! Keep it up, I love this series :)
It's FINALLY raining here, and I'm lounging around in my new Dark History tee, and I gotta say, I freaking LOVE these Dark History videos. So much.
Are you in Washington state too 😆 we just got rain today too after awhile
I'm in AZ. Had 23 straight days of rain & 12 days of flooding. Happy rain has moved onwards.
Man I'm in California we need rain so bad here
You must not live in the Southeast! All it does as for weather is rain,rain,rain in the summer. I don't understand why Florida is called the sunshine state! Some areas it rains everyday between the hours of 10am-noon. The rain doesn't help with cool this area off either. Just makes it more muggy,sticky humid and the no see in gnats bite ya the h*** up.
A town about 30 minutes from my own here in TN was completely under water due to a huge rainstorm. 20+ deaths and many still missing. 🙏
Can we take a second to appreciate the elevator operator?? REAL life hero. Most would’ve run for the hills
Yesss exactly my thoughts
I briefly learned about this in my 9th-grade history class when we were learning about the industrial revolution. It's interesting to hear everything that happened!!
There is an amazing song about this fire by the band Rasputina called "my little shirtwaist fire"
It's beautifully haunting.
Right up your alley Bailey.
I starting singing “we’re not gonna take it” at the same time as Bailey and if that doesn’t confirm that I’m obsessed with her channel I don’t know what will. Living in my head rent free, girl!
This is one of the historical events I distinctly remember learning in school. I remembered learning that people, including the kids, would lose limbs in garment machines.
Same
And how bad the air was.
when i was a kid we learned about this as well, there’s a famous mill town and old mills in my state and the schools brought us there to teach us about the horrors these women and children went thru :(
Thank you for talking about this! My friend and I are history nerds ,and are constantly saying No one discusses this tragedy. It was a huge turning point in workers safety rights.
I've been fascinated with this part of history ever since I read a book about it in middle school and I'm in my mid-20s now. So happy to see Bailey talking about this
IDEA FOR MERCH: Make a real Dark History book that has all of the Podcasts transcribed along with pics of you (Bailey) from each podcast.
I would buy it for sure!!!
I second this idea.
Dope idea 💡
Yasss
I would also buy these.
I would but it immediately
This is one of the few history stories I actually learned in school! It is such a landmark, important turning point in human rights for employees as well as fire safety for all buildings!!!
This is the story from history that got me hooked on labor history. I watched a movie when I was a kid (late 70’s) and it touched my heart. I visited the site back in 2009 and it broke my heart. Thank you for telling this story in a full Bailey way. I listened on the pod and now I’m watching again because I just miss your face when you’re telling stories.
Also, Bailey, when you learn words from reading you hear them how you think it’s said. No judgment whatsoever on that! I still have words I say wrong because of that!
I had heard of this, sadly.
I saw a PBS documentary about it as an adolescence and it completely traumatized me.
The images of burned bodies was tragic.
My older siblings couldn’t console me as I cried hysterically.
But I’m better now.
LIVINGGGG for the hair
Truly!!!
Definitely want to try it myself
Me tooooo!!!!!! 💖🙌✌️🤟✌️💖
That 👏 hair 👏
First comment on our girl's page. Long time fan but that hairrr
LIIIIIVINGGG😍😍
Keep the skeletons coming - I would love to hear you talk about the residential schools that were meant to “educate” Native Americans.
And about the Remains found in Residential Schools in Canada; close to thousand (1000) across the country, recently found.
@@kalikalimai1 it’s closer to 5,000 children’s remains found now and only 20 residential schools have been searched so far out of 139 + very sad
100%!
@@kalikalimai1 I was just about to say that, then I saw your comment. R.I.P to all of our precious indigenous children who's remains were found. So sinful.....
Yeah
no one ever talks about it, but the subtle sound effect she adds, adds so much to the story
I just love Bailey! Her utter joy when she talks about her hair.☺️
Took most of my classes in this building before dropping out of college, the vibes were VERY spooky.
I wasn't even the least bit surprised when she said students using the Ash Building have reported various paranormal experiences.
In fact I fully expected it.
@@MsAmethystra I'm not surprised, even a hundred years later. This was a catastrophic event, that was NYC's 911 at the time. It opened people's eyes up to workers conditions and human rights. The fear and terror these people felt was such high energy, that it left a physic and probably physical imprint inside this building.... That is why there might be paranormal areas in certain parts of the building. Some spirits might still be there, lingering....or, a kind of imprint of the event ,like a residue over those floors. Any kind of unexpected ,or horrible death leaves an imprint on a building or land (think of Indian land ,unmarked graves ) unless the land or building is cleared of that energy (say smudged, cleansed) it is a spiritual/energy problem. Because as humans we are beings of light made from molecules of energy. Every cell in our body can regenerate, we have an immune system, our bodies can heal themselves. There is more to this world then what we see and hear......
If she was my history teacher, I probably would’ve gotten an A. Btw that hair style on you is friggen cuyoooot!!!
Eeeeeee3ee3e3eeeeveeeeeeeeee3ee
I wouldn’t miss a single class
if she was my history teacher I would never cut class till after her class. But I would probably fail the class anyway because I would be too busy daydreaming about her. seriously it happened 😂
I remember reading/ learning about this in a college history class about 10 years ago. I still enjoyed your story though & learned a bit more about it. I am absolutely loving your Dark History series. I've never been interested in history until recently & I love how down to earth you explain everything. Thank you for all the time, research & heart that you put into your content.
💌 Love from Oklahoma 💌
I'm officially "Old". Bailey says, "Fire, fire, fire-fire!"
I hear Beavis and Butthead. 😆
That doesn’t make you old, it makes you more knowledgeable and interesting 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
bailey: “there was no triangle involved”
my brain: “ILLUMINATI”
First thing I thought too!
Hear me out: I think the “Triangle” is supposed to be the silhouette of the women’s body. Like an upside down triangle. If you have an upside down triangle on top of a right side up triangle you get an hourglass. But they’re just working with shirts and not full dresses so if you take the bottom part away you just have the upper part which would be the upside down triangle.. just my thought though on how the triangle ties in. But also, yes, Illuminati.
I was thinking the shape of the shoulders to the waist? 🔽
@@LittleRachelR 👏 I think you’re onto somethin. smarter than us all! ahahaha
That's were my brain went too! Glad it's not just me, lol
Bailey I am positive I am the oldest person at 62 posting but I just went back looking at your videos from the beginning and Wow you really hit onto something with MMand M!! You are also a total natural and I just want to wish you continued success!! For the naysayers out there please! She works hard to get all of the stories put together and delivers them Flawlessly!!❤️
Glad I'm not the only old gal on here. ;-D. I agree with you, Bailey is amazing.
53 in the house! 😂
57 hi ladies. 👋
I love this!!! Here is to All The Old Ladies that still feel young and are thrilled for this young woman’s success!!!!❤️
We love you ladies 🖤🖤🖤
So I am embarrassed to say that I've never watched your CZcams channel, I've only watched You on Facebook, well never again will I watch Facebook where they bleep out every word, you just dropped the F bomb so many times I've never related to anyone more 😂 I'm so glad I decided to listen at work today!! Fan for life 🔪🖤
I actually learned about this in my English class during 7th grade and I got excited to learn more about all of this thank you for covering this topic. I have always found it interesting that more people don’t know about this but you spreading knowledge is amazing. Thank you.