80,000 mi in the well forecast tropics/Caribbean you can rarely see over 40 knots of wind. once you dip into the subtropics and the southern ocean reality changes, three hulls all going in different directions
True but if you chose to go round a storm or bear away from a storm front then you can use it to slip out from under the worst weather. He's an airline pilot so he knows even if you can do 400mph you still side step the bad stuff... even if you have to go round it if you have the range ..
A lot of places they visit they tend to ⚓ off the beach or town.. shallower draft means you get in closer and enjoy the life and views. It's more comfortable as well at anchor being a multihull and it's got the space for a couple their two boys and half of the polish cruising community at times 😂🧙🏼♂️🇬🇧😉👍🏼
@@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 i couldn't reply any better. I'd only add that yesterday was the first time we entered a marina in a year and a half. Cheers guys. B
To answer your question completely and directly though, yes it takes prior arrangements to secure a spot and good reconessaince, planning and execution of marina entry and docking specially when we're dealing with places where there is no turning around on our own without scratching some paint if you get my drift.
@@sailoceans Told you, you need retractable auxiliary electric pod motors ... Tank turns on the spot and milli- metric prop control 😉😁 ... Just keep dodging the marina fees starve the kids, wear rags and on all accounts a lift out 🤦🏻😬🤣 you'll get there 🧙🏼♂️👍🏼
it's something that is related to a weather system spanning tens, hundreds, or sometime even thousand of miles where similar conditions prevail for hours if not days, rather than a micro weather situation such as localized thunderstorm whose path is unpredictable and being just few miles away on the other side of it means radically different conditions. WTF wasn't necessary. I would have happily explained it to you just the same ;). Cheers. B
You haven't seen their W To E crossing to Poland have you. This boat even before its refit did stuff that would have turned a heavy monohull into a vomit comet, submarine and still kept up a pace that most would only dream of on a perfect sailing day. The crew were indoors plotting course dealing with any issues resting cooking talking and drinking coffees 😊 . 🧙🏼♂️🇬🇧
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 I've seen 15 to 20ft off the coast of Trinidad and did the same. To each there own. I always pick vessels on the worst-case scenario. How will she handle it? Will she stay afloat? It's never a question of if, but when will I be in stupid weather. Speed is a nice afterthought. I've got caught in seas on power boats that would leave the fastest sailing vessels in their wake. I currently sail a Tayana 37. She's a proven vessel in the worst of seas and has held together for me so far. To each their own, I guess.
@@haltarpley9237 Have a look at that crossing they are facing 5M waves at times. 1m =3ft 3 . Windelo's 54 cat on its maiden return Atlantic circumnavigation had to get the two families on board through the Iceland Greenland gap with 4-5m pyramid waves .. and with its forward enclosed cockpit area they only took a bucket or two of water over the front and into the cockpit. It's an electric hybrid. When the sea gets gnarly it will break anything...and sometimes the only thing to survive is tiny and floats like a cork .. but might still smash hell out of anyone inside and strip everything off the outside. 🤷🏻♂️ The number and intensity of storms is increasing .. fact ditto squalls.. and weather bombs. While the heat on and in the oceans rising. So increasing wind speeds, hailstorms and lightning. 🧙🏼♂️ 🇬🇧
There's faster than the wind with multihulls and there's a lot of trawlers tugs and cabin cruisers that don't move that fast Without burning a ton of fuel especially crossing oceans using trade winds.. so even a fast cruiser can manage high teens sustained.. and some can handle the mid twenties .. but the forces are huge... And don't forget the racers that cruise ... Interestingly if someone sticks comparatively powerful motors in a sailing multihull what you end up with is a high speed displacement hull that can cruise long distances .. take a look at Atlantic Marines work, Daz Cat, doing a salvaged motor conversion ... economical long range cruising travel and wave piercing hulls.
80,000 miles of sailing with a family and not being in weather you don't want to be in, is obviously a very desirable way to sail.
I would love this life !
Think of the couple that died in Florida still not found but the boat 🛥️ was 3 men was on there boat not long ago
great reasoning there ! have fun folks!
Thanks, you too!
Good thinking
80,000 mi in the well forecast tropics/Caribbean you can rarely see over 40 knots of wind. once you dip into the subtropics and the southern ocean reality changes, three hulls all going in different directions
@manmadegods - Three hulls all going in different directions? Are you some kind of bot?
It helps, but in many oceans the weather changes rapidly. 200 miles a day is a snail compared to fast moving weather systems.
Ok, but did you miss the 80,000 miles of his choice of weather?
True but if you chose to go round a storm or bear away from a storm front then you can use it to slip out from under the worst weather.
He's an airline pilot so he knows even if you can do 400mph you still side step the bad stuff... even if you have to go round it if you have the range ..
@@MikeyCanuck123 He is either very lucky or stretching the truth. Storm systems can change direction and intensity very rapidly.
@@aphilippinesadventure9184 - Common sense will tell you that with forecasting and planning ahead, the more speed you have, the safer it is.
Have you had any problems with finding places to dock? I like the idea of being able to outrun the weather, but tri halls are pretty wide for slips.
A lot of places they visit they tend to ⚓ off the beach or town.. shallower draft means you get in closer and enjoy the life and views. It's more comfortable as well at anchor being a multihull and it's got the space for a couple their two boys and half of the polish cruising community at times 😂🧙🏼♂️🇬🇧😉👍🏼
@@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 i couldn't reply any better. I'd only add that yesterday was the first time we entered a marina in a year and a half. Cheers guys. B
To answer your question completely and directly though, yes it takes prior arrangements to secure a spot and good reconessaince, planning and execution of marina entry and docking specially when we're dealing with places where there is no turning around on our own without scratching some paint if you get my drift.
@@sailoceans
Told you, you need retractable auxiliary electric pod motors ... Tank turns on the spot and milli- metric prop control 😉😁 ... Just keep dodging the marina fees starve the kids, wear rags and on all accounts a lift out 🤦🏻😬🤣
you'll get there 🧙🏼♂️👍🏼
@@sailoceans
Lol 😂 .. Sussed . Hope you're all well and the boat's behaving.
WTF is a macro weather situation.
it's something that is related to a weather system spanning tens, hundreds, or sometime even thousand of miles where similar conditions prevail for hours if not days, rather than a micro weather situation such as localized thunderstorm whose path is unpredictable and being just few miles away on the other side of it means radically different conditions. WTF wasn't necessary. I would have happily explained it to you just the same ;). Cheers. B
@@jachtemprzezswiat - Very patient of you to address numbskulls like this guy. Glad things are working out well for you. 👍🏼
Or just pick a boat that is comfortable in foul weather.
You haven't seen their W To E crossing to Poland have you.
This boat even before its refit did stuff that would have turned a heavy monohull into a vomit comet, submarine and still kept up a pace that most would only dream of on a perfect sailing day. The crew were indoors plotting course dealing with any issues resting cooking talking and drinking coffees 😊 .
🧙🏼♂️🇬🇧
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 I've seen 15 to 20ft off the coast of Trinidad and did the same. To each there own. I always pick vessels on the worst-case scenario. How will she handle it? Will she stay afloat? It's never a question of if, but when will I be in stupid weather. Speed is a nice afterthought. I've got caught in seas on power boats that would leave the fastest sailing vessels in their wake. I currently sail a Tayana 37. She's a proven vessel in the worst of seas and has held together for me so far. To each their own, I guess.
@@haltarpley9237
Have a look at that crossing they are facing 5M waves at times. 1m =3ft 3 . Windelo's 54 cat on its maiden return Atlantic circumnavigation had to get the two families on board through the Iceland Greenland gap with 4-5m pyramid waves .. and with its forward enclosed cockpit area they only took a bucket or two of water over the front and into the cockpit. It's an electric hybrid.
When the sea gets gnarly it will break anything...and sometimes the only thing to survive is tiny and floats like a cork .. but might still smash hell out of anyone inside and strip everything off the outside. 🤷🏻♂️
The number and intensity of storms is increasing .. fact ditto squalls.. and weather bombs. While the heat on and in the oceans rising. So increasing wind speeds, hailstorms and lightning. 🧙🏼♂️ 🇬🇧
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 I am familiar. 20-year captain, traveled the world, I also know the metric system.
You could afford to do it.
It’s not what you think
“Fast sailboat” is an oxymoron.
What is fast for you then?
You're not aware of how deeply ignorant you just exposed yourself to be
Did you watch the video? 80,000 miles in weather of their choice. Not rocket science.
There's faster than the wind with multihulls and there's a lot of trawlers tugs and cabin cruisers that don't move that fast
Without burning a ton of fuel especially crossing oceans using trade winds.. so even a fast cruiser can manage high teens sustained.. and some can handle the mid twenties .. but the forces are huge... And don't forget the racers that cruise ...
Interestingly if someone sticks comparatively powerful motors in a sailing multihull what you end up with is a high speed displacement hull that can cruise long distances .. take a look at Atlantic Marines work, Daz Cat, doing a salvaged motor conversion ... economical long range cruising travel and wave piercing hulls.