(26) Super Efficient 13 plate Dry Cell 1.3LPM
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13 plate dry cell equipped with a 30/40 amp relay and 30 amp circuit breaker. produces 1.3 LPM at 20 amps. great little cell for use in a car or truck. small 6x8x2 - Věda a technologie
im using KOH. one thing i didn't mention in the vid is that i have literally had it running for a week straight with no heating problems and the water is still perfectly clear of any scum.
yes this is my own. i had the plates cut to my specs. i don't have a veriac so i wont be able to put more than 11.5v into it until i get it into the neon. i received 208 plates today to build some of these and i also have 112 9x9 plates that i plan building one massive dry cell with. stay tunned for that video in a couple of weeks.
Like the set up
air is lighter than water: only bubbles will travel upwards. water can not fight the gravity, unless a pump is used or by capillarity action. as a result, your electrolizer will get hot soon.
give this setup a try. as the HHO is forced up the tube it creates a back preasure on the intake tube making a pumping action. the water is circulated through the system.
Hell ya ! Awesome ! Good work
@panamjack It actually is a 16 plate cell now and is available on the website.
@Melvinizel always use distilled water. The minerials in tap water will damage the plates. You can use NaOH instead of KOH. It is easier to find. {sodium hydroxide}
@Video85Man A relay is basically a high current switch. A on/off switch.
@htiekeith I have a video about this somewhere. you will just have to find it but what I do Is to hook into the fuel pump relay in the fuse box. Usually 5 pin there is a pin that is only hot when the engine is running. I run my wire from there to the hydroxy relay.
@pgpeachess Yes the bubbles have buoyancy and will always travel upwards. This creates a back pressure on the input port of the cell and causes the water to circulate.
i made the gaskets out of EPDM rubber. the unit has been running for over 100 hours with no sign of leaching from either the plates or the rubber.
Congrats ! Very nice generator and thinking about it : What happen if you add a ON-OFF switch on the fuel pump relay and be able to cut the fuel delivery to the engine ? Of course that switch you intalled and tne one cutting the fuel will be locate on the dash board. My idea is to go 100% hydrogen at my choise. thanks.
Man, you produce a lot of steam.
Try 5n and 5-6 Amp. than light on the gas.
I recommend to plug your ears.
what is super efficient about it.. a normal 20 amp cell gets 1.5 to 2 lpm..
a higher efficient cell gets over 2 to to 2.5 .. a super effecient gets over 3 lpm ..
what am i missing?
I have the same plastic reservoir and it has a vented cap. You need to plug the hole in the cap and conduct a new test. I can tell from experience that you are producing closer to 4.0lpm than 1.3lpm
it just depends on the cars alternators output. my dodge neon has a 120amp rating. so im ok to put 25-30 amps from it.
1.3 LPM (mix gas product)
20 A (DC Current)
10.38 V (DC Voltage)
207.6 watt (power consumption)
Electrolysis efficiency = 0.875162349
@htiekeith The hydroxy acts as a catalyst for the the gasoline help it burn better. There isn't enough hydroxy itself to do any damage to the engine. Even If there were enough It burns so quickly and so completely that heat doesn't build up like gasoline.
not in may case; i tried it and it blew in my van from heat. good luck to you! i'm using a pump now.
@delvis11 Sounds good ,thanks for the quick answers Bro. I still can't believe we can make fuel out of water.Now I feel weird when I drink it !
What electrolyte are you using, and how much? Nice design. Great output for such a compact cell. Good job!
Thanks for response .I was hoping you would say that. How about my sensor on the exaust manifold .Can I just leave that alone ? 5.3 gmc V8
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@delvis11 Thank you for that. Do you suggest using distilled water with sea salt on it? I have tried it, but I think the stainless plates are burning and eroding. What about my electrical wires were heating up? Is it because of my numerous postives and negatives? I will try your suggested connection and update you on its output.
what is the voltage my friend and what is the plate dimentions width of gasket and material of gasket used
Can a video be made of the layout of the cell?
a good rule of thumb is not to use over 20-25% of your alternator's max output
Nice production.I just have one question.If it burns hotter when used with gas in a car,isnt there a chance that the valves will warp from the hotter temp and how about the alumunim pistons,can they get a burn hole threw them.No one talks about this.???I have been wanting to build one ,but dont want to do damage to V8.And also ,how about the sensor on the exaust maifold ? THANKS
did you say that water travels up against gravity without a pump?
I want HH0 gen . to run only when the car engine is running ,so where would be a good place to hook hot wire to on fuse box ? Ill probably buy a HH0 gen. from you soon.Thanks
They are 316 stainless steel.
What is the difference between using only plain water and distilled water with KOH? I have tried using plain water and I am disappointed with the output. KOH here is hard to come buy, what other electrolyte will you suggest? Thank you very much for the big help.
how is the concentration of koh in water at 20 amps
@Melvinizel Use only distilled water and KOH, Never use salt.
delvis11, Are you using 3 negative plates on this cell?
Hi! I have 12 plates 4x4 stainless. They heat up very fast. What can you suggest? What is the use of the relay and what is the connection?
@frank0067 You have to think about when this video was made. I designed this cell right when dry cells started showing up. At the time it was considerably more efficient than all the wet cells that were floating around. When you say 20 amps I assume you are calculating your lpm with 12v. A super efficient cell can now get 1.5 lpm at 20 amps but 2,2.5 and 30 are all overunity.
so this thing makes hydrogen and then you could use the hydrogen for car fuel?
do you add baking soda ?
@delvis11 not true! only a small percentage of the water will do that. water does not travel upwards by itself; the gasses produced, if they would create pressure, it would be the other way in this case, but gasses will come out first and not the water, being heavier of course. thanks anyway!
@Melvinizel make 8 plates neutral, It will help with the heat. config like this
+nnnn-nnnn+ The relay is just a on/off switch
What type of car can you run with this HHO and is it possible without gasoline just hydrogen
@hydrophoenixx I'm using 2 pos and 2 negs.
Did you see my video on producing more hho by find the sweet spot ,by slowing the flow.
Why not just run a car on all Hydrogen with 4 to 6 alternators and use about 1 forth of power for HHO generator ??? with backup batterys ???
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how often to you have to clean plats ?
Never
I want.
Please see my video on my HHO unit. I have some problems and I hope you could help me analyze the problem.
@pgpeachess
Sir you are wrong. Look up buoyancy and thermal migration, you mite learn something. I have probably 30 video's that show electrolyte circulation without a pump. This isn't hard science.
@pgpeachess Sir you are wrong. Look up buoyancy and thermal migration, you mite learn something. I have probably 30 video's that show electrolyte circulation without a pump. This isn't hard scienc
1.3 lpm at 20 amps.. lower tha average output !
@pgpeachess I have probably 30 video's that show this happening. Look up thermal migration. This isn't hard science to understand, Educate yourself and then return and post an educated response.
buy a piece of pvc from mcmaster carr
9:15 www.hydrogenko.com is a blank page
Hi. You have a diagram... For reproduction ?????
@pgpeachess Sir you are wrong. Look up buoyancy and thermal migration, you mite learn something. I have probably 30 video's that show electrolyte circulation without a pump. This isn't hard science.
@pgpeachess Sir you are wrong. Look up buoyancy and thermal migration, you mite learn something. I have probably 30 video's that show electrolyte circulation without a pump. This isn't hard science.
@pgpeachess Sir you are wrong. Look up buoyancy and thermal migration, you mite learn something. I have probably 30 video's that show electrolyte circulation without a pump. This isn't hard science.
@pgpeachess
Sir you are wrong. Look up buoyancy and thermal migration, you mite learn something. I have probably 30 video's that show electrolyte circulation without a pump. This isn't hard science.
@pgpeachess Sir you are wrong. Look up buoyancy and thermal migration, you mite learn something. I have probably 30 video's that show electrolyte circulation without a pump. This isn't hard science.
@pgpeachess Sir you are wrong. Look up buoyancy and thermal migration, you mite learn something. I have probably 30 video's that show electrolyte circulation without a pump. This isn't hard science.