Entry Level Full Suspension Vs Mid-Range Full Suspension MTB | What’s The Difference?

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  • We often talk about the latest expensive mountain bikes on GMBN and are often asked to feature cheaper, more entry-level bikes on the channel. So what do you get for your cash when going for entry level or a mid level bike? We teamed up with Polygon to show a few examples of what materials and components you can find on these types of bikes.
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  • @danbradley1537
    @danbradley1537 Pƙed 3 lety +2076

    Your entry level is my mid range

    • @Marshallaw14
      @Marshallaw14 Pƙed 3 lety +22

      Right

    • @AlticMember
      @AlticMember Pƙed 3 lety +62

      Your bike budget is my mid range 😂

    • @Hiise
      @Hiise Pƙed 3 lety +22

      Such is the life of hobbys.

    • @nonameuser9664
      @nonameuser9664 Pƙed 3 lety +127

      Your budget is my high end

    • @vladmarcu225
      @vladmarcu225 Pƙed 3 lety +13

      That n9 at 2899 , better put 200 more and buy a mega imo

  • @Meldonator
    @Meldonator Pƙed 3 lety +513

    Entry at 2k, Mid range at 3k... gulp I'm definitely not living on the same planet đŸ„Ž

    • @ASAP2525
      @ASAP2525 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      If you look at the spectrum of parts yea there are three levels for instance with SRAM NX GX XO1 I got a YT Jeffsy that came with NX you can go lower than this stuff but it will start to fall apart within a single season of riding and you will constantly be having issues I know my friend got a 500 dollar hardtail and it is falling apart

    • @1CoLoRz2
      @1CoLoRz2 Pƙed 3 lety +15

      Buy second hand. Just bought a yeti sb66 for $1000

    • @oscar7322
      @oscar7322 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@1CoLoRz2 where? 27.5?

    • @1CoLoRz2
      @1CoLoRz2 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      @@oscar7322 Facebook marketplace. And nah 26. But im new to mtb so im fine with it for a starter bike.

    • @JF-lt5zc
      @JF-lt5zc Pƙed 3 lety +4

      Pricing on bikes has really gone in the toilet. When I was shopping a few years ago, you could get a Transition for $3k. Good GX or better components. Now days, that same bike costs more and comes with the NX garbage and you are supposed to feel good about it. Thanks a lot SRAM.

  • @yvan2218
    @yvan2218 Pƙed 3 lety +586

    Next vid: 500 euro hardtail vs 1000 euro hardtail. That would be an interesting vid

  • @casestudymtb
    @casestudymtb Pƙed 3 lety +114

    Cool to see polygon getting out there and sponsoring so much content this year. Certainly making some really accessible and beautifully painted bikes. Definitely has me looking at them a little more closely than in years past.

    • @garrettwoods9308
      @garrettwoods9308 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      I purchased their dirt jumper and I’m pretty happy.

  • @BinarySecond
    @BinarySecond Pƙed 3 lety +339

    The way you said the prices was so strange, it almost seemed like you didn't want to say hundred or thousand. I have no idea why. Edit: didnt help that blake seemed to drop a digit in dollars making it sound like it was a 300 dollar bike

    • @Katastra_
      @Katastra_ Pƙed 3 lety +26

      My thoughts as well, might have been part of the sponsorship deal with polygon.
      Edit: they did say prices normally later on in the vid đŸ€·â€â™€ïž

    • @sugushasta1
      @sugushasta1 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      they spellled in american polygon :)))

    • @matthewbourne659
      @matthewbourne659 Pƙed 3 lety +9

      Title should say sponsored by polygon !

    • @beagleboy111
      @beagleboy111 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      @@matthewbourne659 And all the others by Nukeproof, Pole and Canyon Etc ETc.

    • @explosivemallard8038
      @explosivemallard8038 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      John Croxford Others typically mention their sponsorships, though.
      This sport is too expensive for anyone without a sponsorship.

  • @Jay_Bonjoc
    @Jay_Bonjoc Pƙed 3 lety +319

    Is this the first time that Neil didnt use a High end bike??😂

    • @JeremyPointer
      @JeremyPointer Pƙed 3 lety +14

      This was obviously not his idea so he got second choice 😂😂😂

    • @gayabaru7465
      @gayabaru7465 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      This Bike is very familiar at Indinesia and more good technology for the type of T series N series and Square one if you didn't know

    • @gayabaru7465
      @gayabaru7465 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      bangka-tribunnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bangka.tribunnews.com/amp/2017/10/30/pakai-polygon-collosus-dh9-kurt-sorge-catatkan-sejarah-di-redbull-rampage-2017?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=16016812874080&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=Dari%20%251%24s

  • @chiccorocker
    @chiccorocker Pƙed 3 lety +60

    I really like alloy / metal frames. I can't get around spending so much for a carbon frame and then live in the terror of cracking it. I'm not shy of running alpine trails with plenty of sharp pointy rocks. This summer my alloy frame got scratched pretty good and I'm fairly worried a carbon would have cracked and made me cry hard. For the scratches on alloy the solution is easy: by a ton of GMBN stickers and cover the scratches! Better than new! (Yes I've just got my stickers yesterday and will apply them ASAP).

    • @antony1974
      @antony1974 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      Also Alu is a helluva lot more environmentally friendly.

    • @paghal11
      @paghal11 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Aren't most manufacturers doing life time warranties on carbon frames these days? Genuine question.

    • @benphillips1149
      @benphillips1149 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@paghal11 u dont want to keep getting new frames tho. alu has the same warranty and is 100x stronger on drops

    • @lukeneill1568
      @lukeneill1568 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@paghal11 nope. Snapped my specialised carbon frame in half. Got a Marin alpine trail xr now and staying with alloy

    • @toshman696969
      @toshman696969 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@benphillips1149 I don't believe this is a true statement. Also seeing what dh put a carbon bike through I think I'll stick to carbon

  • @apfelmistnutte
    @apfelmistnutte Pƙed 3 lety +120

    so glad a friend of mine gets a new bike every year and he's willingly selling me his old ones haha

  • @Mark_Tishman
    @Mark_Tishman Pƙed 3 lety +4

    Hey guys, thank you for the review. I've got a D7 a month ago and already upgraded it - installed new blue grips))) it's a very good bike and I enjoy riding it very much.

  • @MeridiasBacon
    @MeridiasBacon Pƙed 3 lety +22

    Polygon Reppin'! Love my Siskiu N8. No other brand could beat the price for the spec. Couldn't really ask for more for my first full sus, as someone with a restricted budget.

    • @Gogetaover90000
      @Gogetaover90000 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      How about united clovis 6.10 its a hardtail bike

  • @phantomzzz6945
    @phantomzzz6945 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    2:09 wooden stick to support the bike noice. had been watching Blake and Neil all the videos and relay helped me getting back to my child hood cycling memories. now i bought my polygon cascade to start again what was a part of me once (cycling) I already Live in mountains so going to try to learn all skills. love from INDIA

  • @Bathy2008
    @Bathy2008 Pƙed 3 lety +318

    High level hard tail or low level full sus??

    • @mojaverc1585
      @mojaverc1585 Pƙed 3 lety +106

      I would rather have a really nice hardtail

    • @ilikerealflight
      @ilikerealflight Pƙed 3 lety +55

      incredibly tough choice. Suppose it comes down to where and how you intend to ride your bike. Just earlier this year I was in the same boat. For the same price, you will get better components. However, if you buy smart and get full sus that prioritized frame over components, you will then have a bike that you can upgrade over time as needed.
      Rougher trails should probably go for full sus, smoother is hardtail

    • @computerbob06
      @computerbob06 Pƙed 3 lety +17

      @@mojaverc1585 Wait till your knees are gone, you'll be saving hard for full sus!

    • @mojaverc1585
      @mojaverc1585 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      computerbob06 I have an older mid level dual suspension and i would never get another hardtail but i would rather have a really nice dirt jumper than a crappy cross country dual suspension.

    • @jaspergeens5841
      @jaspergeens5841 Pƙed 3 lety +8

      Hardtail for all round but if you only ride rough trails a full sus

  • @rccrazy9946
    @rccrazy9946 Pƙed 3 lety +4

    Thanks gmbn I needed that video đŸ‘đŸ»đŸ‘đŸ»

  • @misteraxeman2680
    @misteraxeman2680 Pƙed 3 lety +148

    Polygon bikes are definitely some of the best value bikes out there

    • @explosivemallard8038
      @explosivemallard8038 Pƙed 3 lety +11

      Still cost a shit ton though

    • @Ski_3_p_o
      @Ski_3_p_o Pƙed 3 lety +9

      Marin are right there with them

    • @misteraxeman2680
      @misteraxeman2680 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      @@Ski_3_p_o Marin does give you a ton of bike for your money but not quite as much as Polygon. I actually own a 2019 Marin Hawk Hill 3 myself!

    • @nickkovalenko2891
      @nickkovalenko2891 Pƙed 3 lety +10

      I've got the N9 and it's a sweet bike for the money. Can't believe they did a review on these

    • @BikeParkLane
      @BikeParkLane Pƙed 3 lety +2

      @@nickkovalenko2891 more like, how did they get hold of them

  • @andrerichard628
    @andrerichard628 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I have that exact Siskiu D7. I think for the intended rider it more than fits the bill for cost and spec. The more I ride it the more I like it and just riding in general. Going forward will get something with longer travel for all the chunk where I live and of course because I love jumps. Sick video thanks.

  • @shreyasnehru8846
    @shreyasnehru8846 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    Finalllyyy.....ibwas looking a review of siskiu d7 and you guys have made it thank you so much gmbn

  • @georgesoukup4058
    @georgesoukup4058 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    I just looked into polygon, and I am 100% going to buy a polygon for my next bike

  • @stephanrobidoux2486
    @stephanrobidoux2486 Pƙed 3 lety +32

    Great video as always,even if Polygon is not available in Canada,i would like to see a comparison between a 2021 entry level full suspension and a 8-10 years old top tire bike

    • @duey1083
      @duey1083 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

      I realize this is a comment from 2 years ago, but MEC sells Polygon bikes.

  • @brandonodonnell7308
    @brandonodonnell7308 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I run a Siskiu T8. I have upgraded the basics and put volume spacers in both forks and rear shock. These are amazing bikes for the money. Yes I'd like a full carbon dual sus bike but the covid tax has put these out of reach of most people. My T8 is solid, reliable and perfect for my skill.

  • @Glaciers.R1T
    @Glaciers.R1T Pƙed 3 lety

    Got my N7 a month ago. It rips. Very happy with the Polygon brand.

  • @davidwales9657
    @davidwales9657 Pƙed 2 lety +72

    There is also a Siskiu D6 and D5, that would be the actual "entry level". These are both just different levels of mid-range

    • @mctg9043
      @mctg9043 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      don't get the d6 or d5

    • @bentoth2494
      @bentoth2494 Pƙed 2 lety +6

      No. The d6 and d5 are absolutely horrible, practically Walmart bikes. Especially the d5. The d7 is an entry level full sus

    • @mctg9043
      @mctg9043 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@bentoth2494 exactly

    • @gills77
      @gills77 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@bentoth2494 care to share why? Components, or something else?

    • @OfficialElectronik
      @OfficialElectronik Pƙed 2 lety

      @@bentoth2494 it's the rider that makes the bike I got the d5 and ride thru anything no issues, u should see the stunts I was doing back when I was a kid on a mongoose bike

  • @tonyvandyke7588
    @tonyvandyke7588 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    I’m so grateful for this review. I did my research and preordered the D7 dropper post edition three days before this review. I respect you guys and your opinions on bikes so I was really nervous clicking on the video but tremendously relieved to know I didn’t make a bad choice. This is my first full suspension bike and I didn’t want to be disappointed with the quality for the price.

    • @beagleboy111
      @beagleboy111 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      you wont be disappointed, you can also upgrade components as it suits you as they are very good base.

    • @mctg9043
      @mctg9043 Pƙed 2 lety

      shoulda gone for the t7

    • @leitaoo1
      @leitaoo1 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@mctg9043 T7 just has more travel.

  • @rickswanracing3139
    @rickswanracing3139 Pƙed 3 lety

    Awesome! my son has been riding an N9 for about a month and loves it, my wife has a D7 that is showing up tomorrow by freight. I'm sticking with my GHOST SLAMRX for now. ;)

  • @AbrahamBarberi
    @AbrahamBarberi Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I got last year the N9 and I love it. Great video

  • @ADVRaiderKTM
    @ADVRaiderKTM Pƙed 3 lety +8

    Awesome review! Will you guys please do one of the 2021 T7 model?

  • @computerbob06
    @computerbob06 Pƙed 3 lety +55

    Neil and Blake back together once more! They'll be touring together, once more soon!

  • @billy4eyes512
    @billy4eyes512 Pƙed 3 lety

    I have a 2019 T7 in medium with 27.5 wheel size. Was my first dual suspension and cost $2200 AUD. Son is now riding this so I’m probably getting the D7 very soon. This time in Large and 29’er.
    Great value bikes, good components, excellent for budget conscious intermediate level riders.

  • @davidbermudez5387
    @davidbermudez5387 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    These dudes rock! Both have some amazing skills love watching their videos đŸ€™đŸ”

  • @MissingLinkMTB
    @MissingLinkMTB Pƙed 3 lety +108

    Polygon is definitely onto something with their bike selections. Now if they can only keep them in stock long enough for me to pick up an XL.

    • @beagleboy111
      @beagleboy111 Pƙed 3 lety

      Good luck Lol

    • @IamAquaman
      @IamAquaman Pƙed 3 lety +3

      I waited on the T7 to come back in stock in a Large frame from for over a month and in that time just saved up enough money to order a Canyon Neuron 7. I was really interested in that T7 but unable/unwilling to wait for it to come back in stock. They look like great bikes for the price

    • @TieriaZodak
      @TieriaZodak Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Well, the demand in the production country is really high due covid-19. People switching from motorize blvehicle to bike. So, might have to wait a lil longer

    • @cncn9631
      @cncn9631 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Polygon is Indonesian Brand

    • @lan8401
      @lan8401 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Well for polygon, the stock was keep low due to the high demand, especially for indonesian costumer since Polygon was made in indonesia and the bike trend and deman in there was very high

  • @nostaku
    @nostaku Pƙed 3 lety +3

    I used to own a 2019 Siskiu N9, I miss that bike

  • @constantinadeluca7916
    @constantinadeluca7916 Pƙed 3 lety

    I first pre-ordered a 2021 D7 in august,then the 2021 T7 came out and available for pre-order so i canceled the D7 order and am waiting for it to get shipped around oct 4th,cant wait to see what the T7 is about for the price, alot of people been talking about this brand and what you get for your money, good review !

  • @Rose_Butterfly98
    @Rose_Butterfly98 Pƙed 3 lety

    Omg polygon!!! I have a 2017 Siskiu D7 and 2017 Collosus T8. My Siskiu D7 came with an xt rear derailleur but it's 2x10. Polygon is my favourite brand just because their bikes tend to be priced lower than everyone else for the same components.

  • @team_ipq2326
    @team_ipq2326 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    I wish I had that good of a Full Suspension XC😔always waned a Polygon bike the T8 is dope

  • @napalm6148
    @napalm6148 Pƙed 3 lety +9

    Interesting video. Would love to hear you go a bit more in-depth in comparing the actual ride experience between these cheaper/mid-range bikes and those upper range stuff you often use in GMBN. Like, for example, if you rode the N9 and a $5000-7000 bike blindfolded, what would be the key differences you'd spot right away? Or does it simply come down to more durable parts etc. instead of a drastically different ride experience?

    • @equalizer4633
      @equalizer4633 Pƙed 2 lety +11

      if you rode the N9 and a $5000-7000 bike blindfolded, the key difference would be that you hit a tree fast vs really fast.

  • @pknark
    @pknark Pƙed 3 lety +2

    My “entry level” Stumpjumper still cost 4K CDN. Only things I’d change are the rotors and maybe carbon bars to help dampen some vibration.

  • @k.irsyad
    @k.irsyad Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Never thought polygon will have its own video from gmbn 😍

  • @davidparrott1507
    @davidparrott1507 Pƙed 3 lety +8

    Great video aimed at the price range most mortals will be looking at. Just shows its about the bike and not the name. Even so called budget ranges are coming with great spec kit and geometry. Sensible and informative vid guys. Keep safe all

    • @Ski_3_p_o
      @Ski_3_p_o Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Look at the Marin alpine trail series. They just updated geo and get some damn aggressive numbers and kit for a super competitive price

  • @idostuff2527
    @idostuff2527 Pƙed 3 lety +35

    When entry level is 1500 you know you picked the wrong hobby

  • @justaman676
    @justaman676 Pƙed 3 lety

    Guys! Why didn't you throw Polygon in the title?! I have been shopping my first full suspension for months. Trail riding for 2 years on a hardtail. My son has started riding with me so the requirement to buy two bikes demanded smart shopping. I'm sure most of us still have moments of bewilderment by the price of "entry" bikes. In my journey of riding, maintenance, and skill improvements the two of you have always been my favorites in video's and well delivered content. You can only imagine how stoked I was to see you guys riding the brand and touching on the bikes I have come to believe are truly the best bang for your buck, no compromise, entry/mid entry, quality bike. I'm talking about the 2021 Siskiu T8 and the the T7. (Not shown here) I loved this video and would implore you to add Polygon to the title. There is a serious shortage of content on these bikes and they deserve the attention. Your views and likes are sure to go up! My T8 is on pre-order and a T7 is going in the cart on availability. Keep the content coming. Actually now that I think about the fact I haven't secured my T7, maybe wait a month. Thanks!

  • @myapaquette7418
    @myapaquette7418 Pƙed 3 lety

    The Dutch tilt shots and eerie music made me unsettled during the intro lol. Great video!

  • @nelly5538
    @nelly5538 Pƙed 3 lety +4

    Guys, can we please see a review of two long travel bikes with different levels of suspension? Example. Fox factory 36 w/kashima vs. fox rhythm 36!

  • @ewan_young
    @ewan_young Pƙed 3 lety +82

    The suskiu d7 insn't that slack at 67°!!!
    slack would be more like the grim dohnut at 57° !!! đŸ€Ł

    • @glennoc8585
      @glennoc8585 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      More xc

    • @ghazypangerang6118
      @ghazypangerang6118 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      Grim Donut is a different breed tho

    • @Marc28031984
      @Marc28031984 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      67° is just the beginning of a trail bike.
      I would say a bike is slack with 64° and below but that’s just personal preference.

  • @omi922
    @omi922 Pƙed 3 lety

    Own an N8 and its a beast, can't believe they are reviewing these bikes! Best value for the money

  • @cvdavis
    @cvdavis Pƙed 3 lety

    Love the videos these two guys do.

  • @matthewbrealey2026
    @matthewbrealey2026 Pƙed 3 lety +45

    This review was not good! Four ads and little insight.
    At 2:04 Recon RL Silver, not Gold. Should specify.
    Deore rd - essentially the same as the XT model apart from the lack of bearings in the jockey wheels, and you should specify that it has the clutch.
    M200 brakes - no such thing. It's MT200, and then either MT201 or MT200 levers (difference is the MT200 are steel, which rust, MT201 doesn't). I believe these are in fact MT201
    Hubs - should mention that these are thru-axle and boost. Quite a bit above entry-level.
    Finishing kit from Entity - this is Polygon's own brand. Should specify.
    Siskiu N9 - the D7 is also tapered headset. But the frame geometry of an Enduro bike is different! That's why they weigh the same.
    Also you should mention that the fork is 36mm and obviously much much stiffer and more robust than the 32mm Recon. Saying they are both 'big brand' is ridiculous. Rockshox makes some really low grade stuff. This one is very much 'entry-level'. The Fox is a higher grade, and a piggy-back shock more expensive than the basic lock-out model on the D7. The reason they weigh the same is that one is a heavy-grade enduro bike with relatively light components, whereas the other is lighter-duty bike with cheaper heavier components.
    Brakes - yes they are TRP but they are a higher grade than the Shimano MT200, in that they are 4-piston.
    You should also mention that the difference between 11-speed and 12-speed is the 10t cog rather than the 11t cog at the bottom.
    T8 yes it's heavier because it doesn't have the higher grade components of the N9 but it's more robust than the D7.

    • @dodi535
      @dodi535 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      very detailed than this vid😂😂

    • @julianmcgregor7949
      @julianmcgregor7949 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Watch the vid then come to the comments for the real review. Thanks dude, very helpful

    • @Shinichijeff
      @Shinichijeff Pƙed 3 lety

      When this comment is the real review of the bikes đŸ€Ł

    • @matthewbrealey2026
      @matthewbrealey2026 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      @@julianmcgregor7949 not really a review but basically Polygon have the Xtrada hardtail, 5 & 6 are the same frame, 5 is 2x10 XCM fork, 6 is 1x11 or 2x11 XCR, also clutch derailleur . I kinda like the 5 but the fork is best upgraded to something better like Epixon/Raidon/Recon RL.
      Xtrada 7 is 1x12 and thru axle frame, which is better but kinda overkill.
      Syncline is the carbon frame (same geometry) and not really worth it for most people as you really need a bunch of expensive components bro make carbon MTB worthwhile .
      Siskiu has the D5 which is kind of a basic spec with the bad XCM fork, qr axle, 2x9 drivetrain. D7 is ta frame, 1x11 and good enough suspension. It might be sold without dropper post in some countries. D6 isn't made any more for 2021.
      D series is full sus XC geometry.
      T series is full sus trail geometry so a bit more travel but T7 is largely the same components as D7, just more travel. Except you do get a 12 speed drive train and 4 piston rear brakes, which at the US price difference of $100 is a steal given the overall beefed up ness
      All these bikes are good if you pay a good price. Wrong price and not so much. But if your bike says Trek then people will be happy to pay more for the same or less. polygon not so much.
      T8 is basically the same as T7 with slightly better suspension, i.e. fox rhythm 34 up front, which is definitely better than the recon 32 rl but it's not a top of the line fork (you want fox float or RockShox charger). Also rear shock is better, but I'd kinda save the $500 and upgrade later (though the 32mm steel stanchions on the T7 definitely count as dated now)
      The N series (N8 N9) is just longer travel and better suspension generally but as noted in the video the N9 still is not the top of the range damper in the fork, so potentially you can do better even with a T7 and new suspension, but it depends on pricing again..
      .

    • @em8452
      @em8452 Pƙed 3 lety

      Don't ruin it mate. I'm just happy they dared to show a recon on gmbn. But... love your attention to details.

  • @plusmenewme
    @plusmenewme Pƙed 3 lety +24

    Finally but I hope a Siskiu t8 review will come in the future.

    • @jfrosty42
      @jfrosty42 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      I check the 2021 T8 stock at least twice a day 😂

    • @KyleFonrose
      @KyleFonrose Pƙed 3 lety

      @@jfrosty42 did they say when it should be available for pre order?

  • @tobiasstamenkovic9628
    @tobiasstamenkovic9628 Pƙed 3 lety

    Good job Polygon. I DO like what im seeing here. I really do. Hope some of the other brands take a little "inspiration" from that.

  • @ariotejobuwono447
    @ariotejobuwono447 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Greetings from Indonesia! That Bike was Made in Indonesia. Proud of it!

  • @dokteraza
    @dokteraza Pƙed 3 lety +4

    Finally.. GMBN review my national bike brands.. next im waiting their review Patrol 691 bike..

  • @subliminalvibes
    @subliminalvibes Pƙed 3 lety +6

    Nice Drum & Bass. 😉
    I don't know where it sits on the scale but I'm STOKED with my 2020 Norco Fluid FS2. It's the middle of the Fluid range, which I'd consider a mid-range trail bike..?
    I just want to throw a Fox fork up front FTW!

    • @Bacon676
      @Bacon676 Pƙed 3 lety

      I kept trying to order a Norco here in the US, but I guess with the 'roner virus thing going on they keep pushing back pre-order dates.
      Before I gave up and ordered a giant trance 3, they said all of their orders coming here to the US are backed up 15 months, so it'll be over a year before Norco comes back.
      My local bike shops are talking about dropping them because giant, trek, specialized, etc. are still filling orders within 6 months

  • @richardcrisologo1756
    @richardcrisologo1756 Pƙed 2 lety

    Thank you for making a review of the polygon mtbs. I only trust you guys.

  • @justicebdone7
    @justicebdone7 Pƙed 3 lety

    excellent, excellent, need more reviews with budget friendly bikes

  • @azispratama6426
    @azispratama6426 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    this is the pride of Indonesia's bicycle .. finally get to see the bikes in the reviews on this channel .. thx

  • @daet.4570
    @daet.4570 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    did anyone else notice the framerate = RPMs on the bike wheels at 6:18? Makes them look kind of like they were just sliding along lol

  • @lukmann.hak10
    @lukmann.hak10 Pƙed 3 lety

    Very proud Polygon reviewer by you guys. Indonesia Pride!!!

  • @marandamarvin
    @marandamarvin Pƙed 3 lety

    I have a D7 and I love it! And I am lovin' the Drum & Bass in this video!

  • @niux919
    @niux919 Pƙed 3 lety +23

    That entry level bike is 150% value of my car 😂

  • @The_Dude_420
    @The_Dude_420 Pƙed 3 lety +43

    170 mil front & rear = All-Mountain-Bike? Wtf are you serious, when I started watching this channel 160 mil was considered enduro haha.

    • @explosivemallard8038
      @explosivemallard8038 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      They can change the meaning of the numbers when all of it is marketing bullshit anyway.

    • @dandemore8057
      @dandemore8057 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      i mean technically 170/170 bikes can do all the mountains lol

    • @bumblebeeyaj9375
      @bumblebeeyaj9375 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Lol when Blake said that, I was like wth? I thought that's a enduro bike.

    • @buggerall
      @buggerall Pƙed 3 lety

      yeah, so here I am suddenly deciding I wanted to have a mountain bike again and just got into all the different classes you have these days. In my younger days you had MTB's and downhill bikes and MBX'es. Now I'm all confused again...

    • @Amphibax
      @Amphibax Pƙed 3 lety

      There are now fixed rules on the different bike categories its mainly up to the manufacturer to classify the bikes

  • @mattcj8873
    @mattcj8873 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    My first full suspension bike was an entry level $1700 Haro that I rode for four years then I upgraded to a mid level $3000 Scott and the ride is night and day difference. These are American prices. I will not spend much more than that other than upgrading parts on the Scott since I love this bike that much. I think the mid level fits the bill for every type of riding that I do.

  • @Flip01
    @Flip01 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Big advert for Polygon? Good information never the less.👍🇩đŸ‡șđŸș

  • @floppy_fingers
    @floppy_fingers Pƙed 3 lety +4

    For my fellow Canadians, 1,499 EURO is 2,341 CND

    • @beagleboy111
      @beagleboy111 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@NikolaWG They are hard to get in Australia also, as they sell out before they get here lol

  • @jameswillemsen2609
    @jameswillemsen2609 Pƙed 3 lety +45

    I swear to god people complain about the price of entry level bikes. Mtb has a high entry point if you want something that actually works. Try ride a crappy cheap bike and you'll be saving up for a nicer one pretty quickly

    • @misteraxeman2680
      @misteraxeman2680 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Exactly

    • @INTEL965GAMES
      @INTEL965GAMES Pƙed 3 lety +3

      prettu quickly???? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA u think i earned $10000 per month....................................................................................................I earn $200 per month...................................Not everybody lives in the USA or EUROPE..................................................................................................................................................................................................................

    • @jameswillemsen2609
      @jameswillemsen2609 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      I live in NZ where we pay a pretty penny for all our outdoor gear. Saved up all my money from my after school job for 1. 5 years to buy my bike.

    • @jameswillemsen2609
      @jameswillemsen2609 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      @@INTEL965GAMES don't buy new then đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž buy within your budget just don't complain when someone else's budget is differemt to yours

    • @mbal4052
      @mbal4052 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@jameswillemsen2609 he’s not complaining he’s stating fact

  • @ThePalominasPiper
    @ThePalominasPiper Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Just ordered a D7 as my first full sus today. Going from a used $200 Rockhopper to this will hopefully be a dream!

    • @scate3035
      @scate3035 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      same here! i've been riding an old diamondback hardtail that recently broke down for good and i just placed an order for the D7 before the black friday sale ended. i'm hyped to get back on the trails, good luck with your new bike!

    • @ThePalominasPiper
      @ThePalominasPiper Pƙed 3 lety

      @@scate3035 Nice!

  • @mbmtb4396
    @mbmtb4396 Pƙed 3 lety

    Love what you do guys

  • @jasonlewis6914
    @jasonlewis6914 Pƙed 3 lety +7

    I sold of my full suspension. Don't ride it enough. Just kept my hardtail it's just a much better over all bike it's very well buil everything Shimano xtr. And lots of titanium parts

    • @jasonlewis6914
      @jasonlewis6914 Pƙed 2 lety

      @Hands of Stone it's nothing special just a jamis. That I build over a little time

  • @richardlintang8255
    @richardlintang8255 Pƙed 3 lety +10

    Yes, I'm Indonesian, and yes I'm feeling super proud right now hahaha,
    The amount of attention Polygon doesn't get for their awesome value bikes is a bit too high right now!

    • @allenphilip2328
      @allenphilip2328 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      I have a polygon premier 5 2019 and I love it a lot the best choice I have made buying a Indonesian made😍 brand instead of shitty Chinese made cycle

    • @sudipta4354
      @sudipta4354 Pƙed 3 lety

      I bought Polygon Premier 5 (2020) model last month over big brands name like Trek Marlin, Giant ATX and Giant Talon. I saved some money by investing in a Polygon bike and I'm super happy with the overall quality and performance of the bike. Best value for money brand.

    • @allenphilip2328
      @allenphilip2328 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@sudipta4354 Surely Polygon can beat Treak and giant at that price in every aspect

  • @clivegower-collins9012
    @clivegower-collins9012 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I love these comparison videos. In my case, I'm a proper old bastard, so I watch and compare to my old no-sus (but Gucci at the time) GT Avalanche and reckon we are so spoiled these days 😁 I ride road, gravel and off-road/trail and often think about how back whe the likes of Missy Giove was shredding US downhills my current Trek Fuel would have been the absolute dog's bollocks and it makes me smile all day 😁👍 I love your channel lads

  • @Indarow
    @Indarow Pƙed 3 lety

    I’ve been hoping for a proper n9 review for ages!

  • @amp8874
    @amp8874 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    To be fully honest I almost fell over dead when he said 1500 was the cheap one my price range was more thinking 500 cheaper to 1500 mid range.

  • @Thesomersetgimp
    @Thesomersetgimp Pƙed 3 lety +16

    I don’t think Blake is capable of leaving the ground without throwing a bit of swaz on it.

  • @ddsgardening7437
    @ddsgardening7437 Pƙed 3 lety

    U too lads are a great combo ,big respect 👊🙏🙏

  • @ansellhalim
    @ansellhalim Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I have the Siskiu D7 just like the one Neil was using. đŸ€©

  • @GARBO96
    @GARBO96 Pƙed 3 lety +12

    😂😂😂😂 I have never heard prices worded that way

  • @ageng.raditya
    @ageng.raditya Pƙed 3 lety +21

    Have em both 👍

    • @benisaputra3902
      @benisaputra3902 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Hai sobat upgrade,. Sepedanya lg di review GMBN 😂 🎉

    • @nanditho
      @nanditho Pƙed 3 lety

      iyadah atlet Polygon mah enak di support

    • @anangnf4333
      @anangnf4333 Pƙed 3 lety

      Iy iy

    • @fiqi4107
      @fiqi4107 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      halo sobat upgrade

    • @mentho101
      @mentho101 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Have them all 😂

  • @Pienimusta
    @Pienimusta Pƙed 3 lety

    It's great how tech has moved forward and how much performance you get for your money nowadays.

  • @copyth5748
    @copyth5748 Pƙed 3 lety

    I pre-ordered the 2021 D7 and got it smack bang on the release date, I love it for zipping around on the local trails, not as fast or as costly as my downhill bike, but it sure does the job.

    • @Mytro34
      @Mytro34 Pƙed 2 lety

      Would you recommend it? Im really looking at the D7 as my first bike. Been using some of my buddies hardtails but want full sus. Is there anything else around that price range of the D7 thats worth it or even the D6?

    • @copyth5748
      @copyth5748 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@Mytro34 D6 is good with price and all and is pretty much just a lower spec D7, but I would really recommend spending that little bit extra with the D7 as it comes with better suspension brand and etc. But yeah at the end of the day its hard to find a better bike for price other than the D7. Would really recommend it.

    • @Mytro34
      @Mytro34 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@copyth5748 that’s awesome. That really helps me. I have my eye on a few others in the $1.5-2K range but everything keeps bringing me back to this bike for the “bang for buck”

  • @SoloSportsSpirit
    @SoloSportsSpirit Pƙed 3 lety +9

    Polygon pancen joss tenan. 😁 Produk Lokal sing wis internasional...

  • @michaelb9664
    @michaelb9664 Pƙed 3 lety +31

    Not really feeling these ‘reviews’.
    I can’t believe Neil is saying sentences like “it’s only 11 speed” I mean, really? đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž An almost ÂŁ1500 bike is not “super affordable” either.
    A lot of names mentioned, but what’s the differences? Anyone who doesn’t know what Deore or XT means won’t have a clue.

    • @octogintillion
      @octogintillion Pƙed 3 lety +6

      I've gotten used to GBMN's meaning of an "affordable" bike, but saying that it's "only" an 11 speed triggered me. I can't imagine that a one gear difference will make a big change, especially on trails I would think you could barely tell the difference between a few teeth on different cassettes.

    • @davidmcglynn2765
      @davidmcglynn2765 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      To try find some reasoning, the 11 speed will have the old style spline freehub. The 12 speed will been the microspline. Having the 11 speed rather than 12 adds an extra complexity to upgrading in the future.
      There's also no reason why they would have gone with the 11 speed other than making room above it. 12 speed deore is available, and the choice of freehub design is an option when speccing the hub. It doesn't make a difference to the cost (at least at retail, perhaps for OEM it might be more expensive). If that's what they were going for though, they should have called it out as such. The majority of people interested in a budget bike are probably still riding 10 or less so really don't care if it's 11 or 12.

    • @jonahdewitt8464
      @jonahdewitt8464 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      having recently upgraded my mtb drivetrain I believe Neil was getting at a larger sticking point than the number of cogs, gear ratios, and cadence. Its really hard to find 10 and 11 speed cassettes with a wide enough range to merit a one by system. you simply won't have an easy time finding a 50+ tooth cog to go on on bikes with less gears

    • @BMfins
      @BMfins Pƙed 3 lety

      Well if you don’t know the difference in components you could always google it.
      Lazy kids these days.

    • @michaelb9664
      @michaelb9664 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Batscat May as well say why bother making a comparison vid because people can just google it?

  • @curtisf.r6233
    @curtisf.r6233 Pƙed 3 lety

    Cool video guys! 👍😎 cheerz💯

  • @bikesonline
    @bikesonline Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +1

    GOODNESS, you guys look SHARP aboard Polygon Bikes! đŸ€Ż

  • @brandon-kg2vd
    @brandon-kg2vd Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Just ordered the N9 and I got to say, that is not mid range, for me its ultra high range but I still bought it lol 😭

  • @febriamyqozulfan764
    @febriamyqozulfan764 Pƙed 3 lety +4

    Polygon Xquarone is high end level

  • @Perigault
    @Perigault Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I actually just got a 2021 T7 which is another great value bike with decent components and better color scheme than the t8 IMO

  • @jonmh1390
    @jonmh1390 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    I love Polygon Bikes. I like their "simple" frames.

    • @adamputu5448
      @adamputu5448 Pƙed 2 lety

      You Must Be To Thank You For Polygon Because Polygon From My Country đŸ‡źđŸ‡© . Polygon Make It The Factory At Surabaya City, Indonesia.

  • @DrtSqrt
    @DrtSqrt Pƙed 2 lety +5

    I appreciate the reviews of the two bikes, but can you really “compare” a 120mm travel bike to a 170mm travel bike? A better comparison would have been between 2 of the exact same bike models with different build kits.

    • @Bungle2010
      @Bungle2010 Pƙed 2 lety

      Extra travel is what your extra money is buying you. Surely that is the point if this video?

    • @TheFatSteez
      @TheFatSteez Pƙed 2 lety

      Well mostly the point of the video is to advertise Polygon bikes. If they compared similar class bikes of different specs they wouldn’t be able to advertise the whole range I guess?
      Tbf they didn’t really even comment on how they rode, just described all the components

  • @iota667
    @iota667 Pƙed 3 lety +63

    give "Polygon" on the tittle, n you will got 1M...... comment from +62 people!

  • @hishmithvvardhan5809
    @hishmithvvardhan5809 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Love you guys for keeping budget in mind need more videos like this

    • @explosivemallard8038
      @explosivemallard8038 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Except not really “budget” for the majority of people...

    • @hishmithvvardhan5809
      @hishmithvvardhan5809 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      @@explosivemallard8038 here too broh coz in my country India we get 500usd salary and the bikes cost 2times more due to tax

    • @alexgrant6965
      @alexgrant6965 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Explosive Mallard dude if you’re a mountain biker and want an entry level new double suspension bike that won’t disintegrate when you take it to some jumps, you have to be ready to spend a good amount of money

    • @explosivemallard8038
      @explosivemallard8038 Pƙed 3 lety

      Alex Grant Right. This what I’m pointing out. This isn’t anything close to “budget”.

  • @MrDeano41
    @MrDeano41 Pƙed 2 lety

    Great review. Be nice to see you guys do an in-depth review on the Siskiu d7 fingers crossed đŸ€žđŸ‘

  • @frans5470
    @frans5470 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Hi guys, nice vid on affordable bikes, one question though... I always thought that 120 mil front suspension was a class 4 bike, only capable of jumping 50 cm... Could you please comment on that ? Btw, keep up the excellent work, lads ! đŸš”đŸŒ

  • @tfmaus
    @tfmaus Pƙed 3 lety +6

    and for once Neil gets the entry level bike

  • @bangochim7515
    @bangochim7515 Pƙed 3 lety

    Im so proud..local product Indonesia was review in GMBN 👍

  • @gulfcitynd
    @gulfcitynd Pƙed 3 lety

    I just got mid range polygon bike can't wait for it to come in

  • @KZ-wc9tq
    @KZ-wc9tq Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Me: Yo bike, where's your sus?
    Among us addicts: IMPOSTER!IMPOSTER! HE'S THE IMPOSTER
    Everyone else: We mean SUSpension.

  • @masonforbes2220
    @masonforbes2220 Pƙed 3 lety +8

    Love 💓 polygon

  • @hitary1
    @hitary1 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    So stoked to see more polygon on the channel! Just grabbed a D7 for the GF and a T8 for myself.

  • @SeanAnthony2025
    @SeanAnthony2025 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    D&B always goes so well with MTB

  • @Shinichijeff
    @Shinichijeff Pƙed 3 lety +8

    U need to put "Polygon New bikes" on the title.

  • @taylorvousden
    @taylorvousden Pƙed 3 lety +4

    And then there’s me watching this with a £350 hardtail 😂

  • @tracymcmanus550
    @tracymcmanus550 Pƙed 3 lety

    Thanks for showcasing some of the more attainable bikes for the average rider

  • @stevencole7331
    @stevencole7331 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Two different travel bikes for different approaches . The longer travel can blast through more of the tough stuff where the short travel bike you have to tone it down a bit but can go most places as long as you pick your spots and slow the speed down . It seems the trend for now is shorter travel bikes as many bikers are not blasters and most trails are not off the side of a mountain .