Build A CNC Router For Your Own Shop!
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- čas přidán 21. 04. 2020
- Get the step-by-step plans for this Shop-Built CNC Router here: www.woodsmithplans.com/plan/c...
Creative director, Chris Fitch, built himself a CNC a few years ago - just to see what it was like. The result is a machine that costs less than half of a comparable commercial model. Take a look at the details and features here.
The plans include a complete list of materials, supplies, and sources, but the CNC components came from www.BuildYourCNC.com.
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MUY buena calidad, el texto imagenes. czcams.com/users/postUgkxbnOKZBE4evMO5V2vroHeCjq6d_MV6wJO Un manuel muy completo y trabajado. Resulta muy práctico. Para principiantes y profesionales. Lo recomiendo
I had a 10" Dewalt compound miter saw for around 12 years (light duty). It still works great czcams.com/users/postUgkxPeGkHOMe05FySypTOvYumxMn-xi39oRe but I wanted something bigger. My only complaint about the 10" was the location of the motor, and this version fixes that issue. The XPS system works well. My only request for future versions is a dust collection port (or adapter) that fits large shop vac hoses (or standard PVC pipe fittings) a little better. But that's not a complaint, just a request.
Linear Rails for the slides and Ballscrews for the drive shafts are the way to go to achieve greater accuracy, not V-groove slides and std lead screws !
Very excellent, understandable explanation of the CNC process. Prior to this video, it had been as clear as mud.
Glad it helped! Here is another video about getting the CNC started: czcams.com/video/-W152BG2EfI/video.html
I followed the plans and built one (some videos up) and it's my favorite tool to learn on.
Do you know what the project cost you in the end? I am hesitating starting something I can’t afford to finish. 😅
It's not 200 divided by 64! It's 200 multiplied by 64 that gives you the number of total steps!
Actually, a 4' x 8' CNC router can in fact replace the table saw. Just insert an 1/8" spiral mill bit and the kerf is pretty much the same as the table saw blade. A 1/16" spiral mill bit will give you the same cut as a thin blade on a table saw.
Using a down cut bit will prevent tear out on the first pass but may not clear the saw dust on subsequent paths. An up cut bit may cause tear out on the first pass but will clear the saw dust subsequent passes. That is provided of course: that I don't have the up cut and down cut term definitions backwards. Sometimes, my brain decides to do a dyslexia dump.
The caveat however is that the CNC router may not be able to make those straight cuts as fast as a table saw can without breaking the bit.
Maybe in a limited sense of making cuts, and some rabbets/dados. I'm not sure you would be able to properly make angled cuts (of the thickness of board...i.e. tilting the blade) and dados on the edge of boards (i.e. groove for tongue and groove) to name a few. Plus if you wanted to make a tenon, you'd have to flip the board on the cnc and hopefully get it set in the right place again. Not to mention the setup time for cad/cam for the operation.
I guess if you only use the table saw for certain operations and you use a different tool for different operations you could. But I wouldn't want to. I have a small cnc in my shop and it is useful for some things, but I couldn't personally seeing one replace my table saw.
Now you're really tempting me. I was going to ask about the anti-backlash nuts just before you mentioned them. Does this include a pressure pad to zero the z-axis?
Your voice is so calming. I could just listen this video on repeat and be content
Good news - Chris will be putting out regular CNC videos here on CZcams in 2021. It will be the most calming year ever! 😀
So glad you are putting out this video...a tool is tool..this one just happens to follow jigs that are digital and not made from wood...but couple of things Sir..you confused your X and Y directions ( Y is up and down the length of the table front to back and x is crossing the table side to side) I also noticed your are using a nema 32 for the Y drive and only a nema23 for the x..you probably get a better cut and deeper cut from adding a nema32 for your x axis. So SO happy you started down this path I wish you all the best of luck...Pleae let me know If can help you someway.
Love it man I just don’t have room in my garage
Thanks, but I do have the original plans and specifications by Wordsmith and built it complete just as the machine you show in the video. After searching, I found the the NEW Mach 4 can be used with any MAC system. At this time, and a few more headaches, I think I can move ahead. I have had quite a bit of experience with SketchUp, so it may not be quite the learning curve I was expecting.
Sounds great!
The magazine totally ticks me off. Got a free try issue with part 2 of this build in it and to this day I still haven't been able to get vol. 41 / No 242 that has part 1 in it. Hopefully free plans will be available if this build ever makes it to the show or even a way to buy the missing back issue??????
G-code stands for "gangsta code". Don't forget that kids.
I never knew that. 🤔 Thanks for sharing that bit of trivia. 😁
@@WoodsmithShowandmagazine you're absolutely welcome 😁. Awesome machine btw 🔥🔥🔥 and great explanation!
I’m still hoping to see more videos about this machine. To me, this is by far one of the best “DIY” cnc projects I’ve seen. I wonder how difficult it would be to install a spindle instead of an actual router❓
I'm sure it would be easy. Power, signal, plus a vfd.
Amazing...
Thanks!
Hie,
Is there any chance for a longer version of video..? Where we can learn how to build it..?
That is something that we would like to do in the future, but haven't had the time to do so. We do have another video on getting the CNC started: czcams.com/video/-W152BG2EfI/video.html Hopefully, more CNC videos to come!
What are the tolerance and repeatability this cnc can hold and provide?
I recently started the cnc router build. Can I shorten the length from 60 inches to 48 inches? Too big for my shop and 60" baltic birch is hard to find and way expensive these days. I teach at Woodcraft in Atlanta and can get 48" baltic at reasonable cost. Thanks in advance. DrMike
Is it easily scalable to larger like a 4x8 or 5x10
Minor correction. The Y axis is always the long axis. X is cross left to right on the gantry, Z is vertical. If you are making small projects then it wouldn't matter. You would just turn the stock sideways. If you are cutting a long piece like a guitar neck you allign with the Y axis from a parallel edge.
Good looking basic machine. I would use nema 23 motors no smaller than 420 oz with rm1605 ballscrews.
You are correct... I guess I misspoke on that. Thanks.
Where did you get the idea that Y is the long axis?
Axis assignment is somewhat arbitrary but it starts with selecting the corner of the work area that will be the origin (point 0,0 on cartesian coordinates projected onto the work surface). Then X and Y are assigned the way you were taught at school- Y goes up/down, X goes right/left.
You can configure a CNC router and assign X, Y and Z any way you want.
But it makes it easier if you configure the machine to match your CAD/CAM software.
If you prefer to work on your CAD drawing in portrait then you set the longer axis as Y. If your drawing area is in landscape, having X as the longer axis makes more sense.
It depends on the controller used, the BobsCNC machines have the axes swapped.
I don't understand how v-rollers running on aluminum angle will hold up very long? My CNC engraving table uses hardened v-rollers but they run on hardened round rods.
Now I know what a cave man would feel like in todays' environment ... after seeing that, and then looking down at my bow saw, chisel and hammer ...
I built mine in 2013 out of 80/20 T-slot Aluminum.
Sounds nice... how has it been working out for you?
@@WoodsmithShowandmagazine I could not be happier not only did I save on cost but I learned a lot while building it.
I feel like I can teach a class on cncs now!
Are the plans available in a dxf format? Thanks
The plans are currently not in DXF format but that is something we have anticipated moving forward on, so stay tuned.
Would it be possible to adapt this machine to run a laser?
I have a little problem with the plans i bought from you for this CNC, the 1''x1'' aluminium angle which have no thickness dimension on the part list, I found in the pages 4 and 11 it says 1/8 thick but in the secondary plans set it says 1/16, so 1/8 or 1/16 for the 1''x1'' ? and I suppose the 1,5'' x 1,5'' is 1/8 thick ?
Sorry for the delay, we are all working from home right now so I had to do some running around to get the correct answer... 1/16” is the thickness for the 1” aluminum angle. I’ve confirmed that is what we used on our machines and what our project designer intended. You could get away with using 1/8” thick material but it would cost more and there is no need for the extra thickness because it is supported by the beveled wood. I will get those corrections made to the plans. The 1.5” aluminum angle is 1/8” thick.
Woodsmith thank you for the quick response ! By the way it’s the best design I’ve seen, I’m happy to have choose your plan.
How much did it cost to build????
@@danielmastantuono2618 with electronics from alibexpress....maybe 1500$ canadian
maximinou666 are the parts hard to find? I saw the parts list and it seems like it would be a tedious task to source all the parts.
When I built a CNC router (from scratch, not one of these - sorry), I found it saved me no time. What it did was hugely expand the range of things I made. The best thing for me is the accuracy. Dovetails just slide together without an hour of intervention with a chisel. And of course doing things this way makes you plan and design rather than hacking and hoping. Best investment ever.
So in one sentence you say it didn't save you any time, but in the very next you go on to say it saves time when making dovetails?
have the plans been looked at to expand the table to say 4'x4'?
We haven't looked at expanding the table size yet. We've built 2 of these CNC routers (so far) that have been running in our shop the last few years and they seem to be a pretty good size for our needs.
I would love to shorten it to 48 inches instead of 60 inches. Just shorten all the longer parts 12 inches ??? @@WoodsmithShowandmagazine
I WANT TO BUILD SAME THIS CNC MACHINE YOU BUILT. HAVE YOU THE PLAN ABOUT THIS CNC MACHINE. IF YES, PLEASE GIVE ME THE LINK. I FOLLOWED THAT LINK ABOVE BUT IT GIVE ME CONFUSE, THERE ARE TWO PLAN.
The link is correct: www.woodsmithplans.com/plan/cnc-router/
The Standard - Imperial version of the plan will give you all of the instruction and details you need to build the CNC, but you can add the Premium Version which includes even more detailed shop drawings of each part plus it also includes drawings for an optional shop cart for your CNC Machine that was not included in the original publication. The Premium addition isn't necessary, but I think it is really helpful.
I completed this project with all specified hardware accept the computer wiring. It was at this point because I own a MAC, it would be unable to adapt to the prescribed software. I tried finding out what to do about this but was unable to find anyone to talk with. Should I purchase the electronics an wire as shown and hope for the best that someone has an idea?
Shoot Chris an e-mail at cfitch@aimmedia.com and he might be able to help you out.
Is there any chance of Woodsmith putting together a package with the specialty hardware and electronics so that it doesn't have to be ordered piecemeal on Amazon? I live in New Zealand, and sometimes it's tough to get certain bits, particularly electronics, sent here from Amazon.
I just blew up the labelled photo and saw that the electronics are available as a package, so never mind.
Yep, we mention that in the video description, as well. The CNC components come from BuildYourCNC.com.
This would be an awesome project. I don't see an estimated cost of materials, to complete it though? Can you give us rough idea of what to expect?
The last I heard is that it was in the $1300 range for the hardware and materials including the compact, but I don't believe that cost includes the software that you would choose to run the CNC. Here is a Materials list to help you price out some of the hardware: cdn.woodsmith.com/files/issues/242/cnc-router-materials-and-hardware-list.pdf
@@WoodsmithShowandmagazine thank you for the reply! i was going to ask the same question.
Hello
I have a question about the use of a single central lead screw for the X axis. Could it not produce a torsion on the gantry when cutting on both ends of the Y axis as a result of the distance from the place where the force is produced by part of the router, to the center where is the lead screw that commands the gantry ?. I am very interested in your opinion about it. Thank you very much and best regards!!!.
what about this comment ? can you answer this question please ?
how accurate is the machine?
How about a hardware package offering? Seems a bit complex to order the parts separately. There could be an electronics package and metal parts package. Thanks
Not a bad idea, but I think the electronics we have sourced is packaged from BuildYourCNC.com and although the most of the metal parts are sourced through McMaster Carr, a lot of that you could just pick up at the local hardware store.
Does anyone know if these plans identify what software would be needed ?
There are lots of options out there for software, but we used Mach3 to control the CNC and Vectric CAD/CAM to generate the code for Mach3.
Anyone know what the total cost is?
approximate costs of materials?
I have to correct, 200 steps “times” 64 in between steps. 12,800 precise steps?
Woodsmith, you need to revisit your plans. The "Materials & Hardware List" stops at wood part GG, but the parts continue all the way up to RR. I'm also quite disappointed with the total lack of effort to simplify number of unique wood screws involved, and the omission of any end stops or proper cable management. All this from being less than 1/4 of the way through the build!
Thanks for the input. I will absolutely look into all of those suggestions. That is very strange about the Materials and Parts list. We'll have to get that corrected ASAP.
@@WoodsmithShowandmagazine Thanks guys, really appreciate the response and you taking the time. The "premium plans" do have proper part drawings for everything, I was just a little frustrated realizing belatedly that I need to burn out some more parts after I though I was done.
@@StructEdOrg Yeah, I get that. I’m just surprised because these plans have been out there for a couple years and this is the first time anyone has noticed that (as far as I know). Chris is starting to put out a lot more CNC content on our CZcams channel this year if you want to check that out.
@@WoodsmithShowandmagazine Will do, looking forward to it!
Why a cnc router in your shop???
WHY NOT A CNC ROUTER IN THE SHOP!
Can you really create the surfaces seen at @0:54 with such a router? These surfaces have curvature and look pretty smooth. I would have expected to see some steps on in z direction. (ps: I am neither an expert in routers nor I own one)
What about the costs? How much is it approximately?
I don't wanna buy the plans to realize afterward it'll be too expensive.
I believe last I checked it was in the $1300 range on materials. Here is a link to a list of materials and sources to help you break it down: cdn.woodsmith.com/files/issues/242/cnc-router-materials-and-hardware-list.pdf
@@WoodsmithShowandmagazine , can you please provide the list for "greenBullv2 4x8 flat with 4th axis and laser gantry plans, hardware" ? i need to be sure nothing is loss, to have the complete machine (ready to work) prior to purchase,
Good video except x axis is side to side and y axis is front to back just like graphing in math.
If someone has one they don't use/need , please send it over :D
Any guess on how much the hardware for this piece of equipment? It says it costs 1/3 the price but what comparison do we have? I'm just drooling right now because I was a CNC machinist and this looks cool!
The last I heard, it was around $1300, but I'm sure you can shop around and get parts cheaper. There are a lot of CNC products at different price points so it's actually kind of hard to compare to what's out there, but it is a really fun and rewarding project to build yourself and the 2 we've built have worked really well for us over the last couple years. Here is a list of parts and materials for reference: cdn.woodsmith.com/files/issues/242/cnc-router-materials-and-hardware-list.pdf
@@WoodsmithShowandmagazine Thanks that's a big help.
@@WoodsmithShowandmagazine hi what motor and stepper driver is used, I see mo mention of this in the list above, many thanks, seriously thinking of building a cnc unit currently
@@davidp8157 - In the Materials and Hardware List it is the "3 axis elec. combo for heavy gantry" (near the top of the 2nd column) Here is the direct link: buildyourcnc.com/item/electronicsandmotors-3axis-heavy-gantry-elcombo
www.lumberjocks.com/topics/303929 I have all the costs laid out
Wasn't this a project in a couple of last year's issues? What do you mean, "Coming up?"
Yes, the video was shot a while ago and is just finding it's way to CZcams now.
How much to build this machine
I think materials and hardware were running right around $1300 last I checked.
One criticism of the design is why would you build your electronics enclosure above the machine bed? I have my own CNC and can’t count the number of times that I did a project that was larger than the bed but was able to do it with “tiling” and passing the project thru the “Y” axis. For example signs. Your design won’t allow people to do that.
I haven't run into that problem yet, but you make a decent point... time to start on Shop-Built CNC Router 2.0 ;)
I bought provxl 4030 cnc it will not work can I trade it in for one those you are showing in this totorial?
Boy that takes up a hellava lot of real estate. Not for the ordinary garage mutt.
Has anyone paid for these plans and built this exact model? Would be interesting to hear from those that did.
Yes, I built this CNC as specified. I am a retired carpenter and now have a fully operating wood chop in my garage. One thing I can tell you is this thing took me in total almost two months to build. It was labor intensive but in the end it was worth it. The painting and clear coating took quite a bit in it self. Waiting on specific hardware and creating an account was also involved. After wiring and setting up the software, there was a learning curve in how to use it, but if you are more computer literate than me, this would be a big help. I spent almost $1400. in all, so be ready for that. Good luck with your adventure with this fantastic machine.
Sounds like a Tim Cook
What the heck is a catalog? 😉
It's like the internet but printed in a book (made of paper). At least that is how I tried to explain it to my kids :)
@@WoodsmithShowandmagazine :)
It's American for catalogue. Google Translate is your friend :)
What's the estimated cost to build this?
Last I checked, I think it was around $1300.
@@WoodsmithShowandmagazine wow.. Are the plans offered in metric? Sorry for asking but I'm from Australia. Thanks
Not currently, but once Austrailian Woodsmith picks up this project it will be.
@@WoodsmithShowandmagazine Jesus. You can build a PrintNC from threedesign.store/ and they are about $900. Plus you're getting a MUCH better product. Using a proper water cooled spindle etc so you can do aluminum and steel as well. You'll never do that with this machine. And for the cost, you're better off building the more robust for cheaper cost.
We actually have cut quite a bit of aluminum parts with this machine, and it has performed really well for us.
only Imperial plans ano 2020 it should be only metric ... looks a great machine btw
Bob Ross?
Misleading title, does not show how to build the CNC 💁
Depends on how you read it I guess... that being said in the next couple weeks we are going to start filming CNC related videos and possibly the build on this project for a monthly series on CZcams. Stay tuned.
Do you use any of tools wheres the sawdust no wheres the dust, i have dust collection in my shop but come on.
I know it seems like a magical, dust-free shop. 😀 This is our video studio shop so the videographers don’t let us get it very messy. Now for our normal production shop... we’ll that is another story. 😂
Wow is that slow. That’s why you buy a commercial cnc.
You can speed it up, but what's the hurry? :) It just depends on the material you are cutting, the bit you're using, and the depth of cut.
the title lead me to believe that you werre going to show how to build a CNC Machine, not just talk about one.
Sorry, about that... more videos to come after we can get back in the shop/video studio after this time of “social distancing.” 🙁
I wish I had your voice ... I would be rich by now and wouldn't need to be watching this video ... knock on wood ;)
Why so slow?
Oh what a great video about nothing to do with building a cnc router. What a waste of time.
I feel like you are being sarcastic??? ;) We are starting to produce more CNC related videos this year: www.woodsmith.com/cnc-basecamp/
Our video production got delayed in 2020 with COVID, so we are a little backed up. Hopefully we can get to a full build video soon.
CLICKBAIT
Ouch! No need for name calling. 😃
I totally disagree ! A cnc router WILL change the entire workflow in the shop or you did not get what a cnc router is all about. If you consider a cnc router as an automatic plunge router or an accurate jig maker, you left your mind in the last century. Most of your tools will be useless, including your table saw, as you just have to flat a face on the jointer, then the CNC router will do what's left, except finishing and assembly.
“It’s a new tool…” no it’s not. This is the most “I’m scared of anything that isn’t made my craftsman…” boomer bullshit
If you don't have a production shop selling the same parts or a cabinet shop business there is no reason to have a CNC.
there's nothing like a CNC that spells out craftsmanship. you guys are nuts and not good woodworkers but you could be a great CNC operator.
So if you can build your own CNC that means you are no longer a good woodworker? 🤔 Darn, I wish I would have known this information beforehand... well, too late now.
@@WoodsmithShowandmagazine Yes you gave up woodworking, to be a cad designer from your couch.
Ken F - Cant you do both? Can’t someone be both a marathon runner and a race car driver?
@@WoodsmithShowandmagazine Thanks Daddy for building a dollhouse for my birthday and i will tell all my friends you did it all by yourself...
(please don't tell me that you would not cad design and have the CNC cut it)
@@kenf2662 You really have your head up your _____ thinking like that. I'll leave you alone with your chisels and coping saw. CNC is every bit as much about craftsmanship... it is simply another tool in the shop that is an evolution in technology.