Chickenbacker 12 string Tom Petty Edition Make it Stop
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I recently bought three from China. And they’re flawless.
Everything straight out of the box. Sent them in for a set up. And was told. All three were perfect. Just a string change.
The Rickenbacker bass 4001 the 360 and the 12 string !
But Dave. I would still send my Gibsons to you !
Love the videos. I never miss a one. Thank you.
Aloha from Oahu Hawaii !!
Helping bury America...keep at it!
@@carlcook801 Oh yeah, I'm SURE you only buy Made in America, nothing Made in China, right?
@@carlcook801 you cranky old busy body go take a nap
I stumbled upon this channel and god do I love it. Something special about a crotchety old Canadian man yelling at a guitar, just the best thing to watch. Like listening to your grandpa fix stuff. I LOVE IT! Also super informative, which is lovely, keep it up Dave!
He's cleaned it up a lot. In his older vids he swore constantly. Must've been at google's "request".
@@wyattdoodat The first one that got recommended to me was the ace freeley chibson. The vulgarity is what got me hooked. Reminded me of fixing cars with my cousin and uncle.
Or my dad years ago. "Hand me thst fuckin wrench. No the other fuckin wrench!"
If you like this guy you might also like AvE. He's like a younger, less grumpy version of this guy, with much more colourful Canadian lingo, who tends to get his hands dirty ripping the innards out of poor defenseless power tools in order to tell you all about the "value enginerding" that took place in order to bring us such a cheap POS.
I see this video is about 4 years old... but it really helped me out today. The way you took multiple measurements and double checked everything to be as accurate as possible and explaining why was so thorough ... I learned something. I will do that on every guitar that I will work on. I am not a luthier, but I can see that I need to buy those tools you used that I don't have. Excellent video and Thank you so much.
So a Chinese copy of a Ricky that with a bit of setup is fully playable...! Will wonders never cease?!? Thanks Dave for showing some of us how an expert can almost save anything! Enjoy the good weather - it will not last.
"I'm just gonna tune it up" < four hours later. >
Forest Fifer That’s about right for any 12 string it’s probably twice that for a Chinese piece of junk!
im never taking in a Chibson again! next video.. Chickenbacker LOL
I thought that as well...
never say never .. .
In the upper 80’s here in Chicago. Love it! I have a deep psychotic hatred for winter.
I think he got the logo after market
Kim Wallace You all could not handle it, not a chance
When I have to restring my 12 string Ricky I have to check myself into a mental facility afterwards but love it.
You do have to admit that is a good looking guitar
Except for the wonky tailpiece it looks actually pretty well made.
Awesome intro lol. Long time watcher. Thanx for the free education.
ha ha Make It Stop , that made me Laugh , Thanks for the Movie
"Gooched things" LOL
The truss rod cover and tailpiece hurt my soul.
theyre great looking right? my fav
When you said the drummer choked, mind went to Spinal Tap. Drummer choked on vomit, but it wasn't his own vomit.✌️
I actually have a Chickenbacker, & if that’s all you had to do to it, their quality has come WAY up since I got mine! I think you expect a little too much from these guitars that mostly cost around $200 shipped. They are what they are, & to be honest, that one actually looks pretty decent. Even seemed like it might sound good, just from the little bit of twanging on it ya did. Guy prolly paid around $300 for that, when a real one is prolly about $3-4 grand. I understand why there is a market for these, but if I had to do it over, I wouldn’t
That Tim Pretty signature Bichenrocker wasn't a complete disaster, I'm surprised!
Cracks me up how they'll bother to replicate the logo and use the name, but then put an obviously fake tailpiece on them.
I think it probably came with a differenet trussrod-cover.
@@soulagent79 Nope. They come with the one you see. Yes, they steal the name and logo. It's China. What is anyone gonna do about it?
@ nope. they come with BOTH! (a logo one and a non-logo one...don't ask me how i know)
That trash almost looks like comic sans, it's like they didn't even try.
Reminds me of a 1990 B.C. Rich Platinum Series guitar I bought (new) out of desperation and played at a gig (which we got fired from after the first set) when my main guitar and back up got broken. I had no time for changing my presets so I played it thru what I had. It sounded like cats fighting. Now referred to as...The Catostraster! Lol. Also, I knew a guy who I played with back in the day and he became a crackhead for a while and he kept pawning stuff to support it. He had a Rick bass and he would pawn it, get it back, pawn it etc. until finally he let it go for good. I saw him after those times and asked him whatever happened to his Rick and he told me the story of how he pawned it for crack. Ah! I said, so you lost The Crackenbacher! Too effin funny!
This thing gave me goochbumps
Iv'e had American Rickenbacker 12's come in for strings, that was an air of reassignment really!!
OMFG GOOCHED THINGS INTRO IS AMAZING!!!
Oh! Chickenbacjer. 😂 Doh! NOW I get it. Thanks.
Happy 2024 New Year, Dave
Beef stew mac and cheese sounds delicious. Maybe he has a franchise in his future.
I spent most of good Friday re stringing and tuning my Chickenbacker 360/12
Thinking about employing a full time roadie to look after the bloody thing for me!
Even genuine Rickenbackers are notoriously temperamental, A Chinese one must be frightening.
They are fine.
Had FB do the same thing to a group I had...30,000+ members...one morning, just gone and never a response as to why. I kept it moderated closely too to make sure no FB rules were broken. So will always remain a mystery and I didn't bother putting up a new group page, fed up with FB.
On another note, I am waiting on tuners to finish up a 12 string project from parts guitars I had laying around. Mid 60's Baldwin 335 copy body with a Vox 12 string neck, P90's, trapeze tailpiece (and like Ric used to do, maybe still does, use one slot for 2 strings), original Baldwin bridge that has nylon saddles with serrations on each saddle so string placement is adjustable which makes it perfect for 12 stings instead of the original 6. Chinese electronics...So all in it will be under a $100...probably give the guitar to one of my grandkids. Fun stuff!
Back in the 60s I put Balwin tuners and PUPs on my Hoffner. TBH, I think I downgraded that poor guitar! Back then, I knew practically nothing, as there was no InterWeb. Or crowned frets, just file 'em down. Actually, the Slide-About-O-Matic bridge, which was totally unattached and had no intonation adjustment, was the real vagina, but someone somewhere will probably swear Hoffners were the Cat's Pyjamas, and will say all solid guitars should have a trapeze-type tailpiece.
@@Ndlanding I actually started this Vox/Baldwin project about 20 years ago...pretty sure I had all of the original Baldwin parts back then, guitar had a broken scroll headstock when I got it, no idea where all that stuff got off to. Vox neck must have come off of something, but I can't remember what or when I even got it. Probably owned over 50 guitars since then, still have about 30, so things get a little fuzzy as to when or where I got them. I do own a Baldwin built Gretsch after they sold out to Baldwin around 1972 and moved to Arkansas, Country Club model near mint and is one nice guitar, 1979. Got it in a part trade for a 1960 Gibson ES345 plus a shit ton of cash. Actually like the Gretsch better than the 345. By then they had their fit/finish and building down pat versus the old Baldwin stuff and not as fragile as the Gibson, worth way less money so not as worried about it as you had to be with the 345 either. Now that I've got old (sneaks up on ya) I have more time to finish off projects started years ago....IF I can keep the Honey Do's under control around here.
@@glenchoitz9497 Good luck with your projects! Me, I've somehow got old too, and I have a few minor projects for "perfecting" a couple of guitars, but none of them are older than 90s. Sadly, I'm thinking about selling my 65 Tele, since it's really wasted on me now. In fact, I don't know why I have a collection since 2 or 3 is plenty. :)
@@Ndlanding Same here...really should get rid of most of them, but everytime I try to figure out which ones I will keep...well, let's just say all of them have become like old friends, most not worth much but you hate to get rid of them too. Guess I will let the wife or kids sort it out later on...lol
Hey Dave, I love your videos and look forward to them. I had a dream the other night that you changed the paper on your workbench but thanks to your next video I realized it was just a dream. Sigh.....
lol
Dave's remake of Nightmare on Gooch Street.
Here we go, Dave doing the samething again. 😂😂😂
I know, I know. I've got one too. The light decision Dave. May you lest in peace !
That intro had me laughing so hard
Did you have your last dance with Mary Jane before you work on that guitar
I like your teminalisist!!!
Killer dwarfs are coming to my city next month. Gonna check them out!
Dave's World of Fun Stuff playing in Winnipeg at Bulldog Pizza event center! Tickets on sale on Tuesday, going to have to get some!
Can you tell if this could be strung the "rick" way with the high strings after the lows? Probably would require a new nut, but would it work with the bridge?
only signature Petty and McQuine models are like that.. and have been converted..this is like a Ricky..sorry
Great vids Dave. Always learning something from your vids
What would you recommend for to upgrade machine head tuners on chickenbacker?
it's 9/21 here in NE, and we do in fact, have another 2 Summerlike days coming up.86 is tomorrow's/today's forecast. and yes, Winter does SUCK.
Gino has more than one famous rock and roll moment under his belt, but the last one I am familiar with came the night before the release of the Goddo DVD at The Mayfair in Ottawa. The band is in their lodging for the night and beverages are being consumed. The bathroom is occupado, and Gino can't wait. It's a ground floor room, and it's night time, who's gonna see him draining the weasel right? He goes outside, walks behind a tree, falls into a hole, and breaks his leg! Greg and Doug showed up though. We watched The Pretty Bad Boys Return and then headed next door for pints and autographs. Good times
That is a Rockingbetter. I think they were a Jay Turser guitar. I saw one in L.A. The hack "R" tailpiece is the clue. From what I understand, Jay Turser got the snot sued out of them.
No guitar company, not even Gibson protects their features & designs like Rickenbacker. I'll bet if that R tailpiece was a real lookalike they would've petitioned Trump to unload our whole nuclear arsenal on China.
You the man Dave
This may sound like a dumb question, however I also believe there stupid question are the ones you don’t ask...
How does one zero out the caliper to get the proper fret measurement? I’ve never used the sliding rule end to measure anything I’ve only used the jaw side or the finger side or whatever the exact term for that side is.
Drummer choke is so real!
have they improve the neck joints on the Chickenbackers? these need a longer tenon
It's funny. Comment starts with saying guitar has shitty fretwork...yet setup was done without any changes to frets. That means ..I assume..that frets were not shitty at all?
Dave’s World of Gooched Things!
I kind of liked that one. Didn't seem like too much trouble...which is a miracle for any electric 12. Good set of pickups maybe and boom. The real ones are obscenely expensive..
What name brand calipers are you using please ... Thnx ...
When you buy these, you'll end up spending quite a lot just to make it playable. Pickups, bridge, and tuners, at least. Maybe even a fret job. I've got a couple, One was decent, the others, wall hangers.
Yeah, some of these are a bit hit and miss. But the quality has been going up over time in my experience
I meant to ask before, where did you get that digital caliper that will do fret height? I have two, and neither one will do that.
All the caliper needs is a depth rod.
Please enable video subtitles. I live in Brazil and would love to understand what you say! Thank you
Hey Dave, I'm a first time caller...lol. What do you recommend to clean/level a nut slot?
Like Dave
If you string with octave string in bottom position you get a much more kingly jangle tone
"It don't play very good at all"--so it's just like a real Rickenbacker!
Poppa Steve Go listen to Sonics Rendezvous Band and learn that a Ricky plays really damn good in the right hands.
Tom Petty is rolling in his grave screaming "what the flying fuck is this?!?!?!?!?!?"
So what did you do with that Randy rhoads chibson????
The Chickenbakers is a music group... you can find them on facebook
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Great intro ! :-)
I've got a friend who owns a guitar store and someone can in with a Chibson Jimmy Page 1275, wanted $200.00 for it. He explained the he couldn't sell a counterfeit or tribute guitar, so no deal. He called me and asked if I'd be interested. So I said yeah, I'd take a look, he said he wanted to trade it for an Epiphone 12 string and fifty bucks. . I got there with my Samick 12 string and case. I asked my friend to do a once over. He said the necks actually looked good, he tuned it and checked the intonation. I offered the guy my Samick and $25.00, he took it. I had my friend do a set up a few frets needed leveling, and restring it. He said it's close, as good as an Epiphone 1275. So I had about $80.00 cash into the guitar. I wound up replacing the 6 string bridge, the tuners, and the nuts. Funny thing is, I have a friend who plays in a few bands and she has the real Gibson. She told me that most people regret buying these after a few months, but they are incredibly difficult to sell and not take a bath on. I got over the thrill in about two months.
Beautiful guitar,sounds nice. Is that a two piece pick guard or is it broken?🤔
Love the vids.
Yes the weather has been great, I live north of Guelph.
Have you ever worked on any of the newer Chinese gretsch's??
Make wall art out of it ,ya can't play it anyway without a complaint from the Byrd's. It's a petty complaint.
lol
Why?
@@josephsperrazza3082 No, that was meant to be another Byrds reference.
it's 94 here in Phoenix what's this thing called winter you're talking about? I don't know that we get that here
@@danpeabody5687 The comment you meant to reply to is about three comments down.
So what do you think of the guitar over all?
junk
Wow your good yea? Lol ima have to send u some of mine.
I would like to see a video where the truss rod is broken and you fix that?
Looks good. They’re 300 bucks. A lot cheaper to take it to a repair guy and have him make it right
It was “limited” to whomever wanted one. I feel bad for the 12 people that bought that thing.
Dave where did you get those telecaster trays??
Truss rod or no truss rod?
If that was a proper Ric, that colour would look gorgeous.
I was looking at a 4003 bass and my jaw dropped then while looking on youtube their add thing had shown one that was brand new for a little over $300. If someone falls for that they have no idea how much they are being scammed
Rickenbacker 12string guitars are supposed to be strung low-high. The one in your video is high-low. I wonder if that's the cause of any problems.
@@DavesWorldofFunStuff OK. How about www.premierguitar.com/articles/22046--string-setup-secrets?page=2, or www.tdpri.com/threads/12-string-electrics-string-pairing.270904/ ?
Is there a manufacturer out there whose guitars are decent right out of the box, ones that are within the means of a working stiff?
yes.
these.
As a rule Danelectro...
Is the neck wider on the Chickenbacker than a normal Ric neck? If so, it may be worth having just for that reason alone...I never could get used to that extreme narrow finger spacing on a Ric, something Ric refuses to change though people have complained about it for years. I have a 60's 360 12 Japanese copy that is very accurate except for an 1/8th inch wider neck...plays better for me than any Ric I have owned and plenty jangly.
Tom Petty models had a wider neck as per Tom’s request ( as per my Ricky books)
Glen Choitz Fred Sonic Smith would scoff at the notion of a Rick neck being too narrow. I also think they’re perfect. I don’t have gorilla paws for hands though. I’ve ran into plenty necks that were too thick or wide though. (Insert butter joke below)
@@TonyMcClelland2 My hands would be considered in the small range...any of their 12 strings just crowd the fingerboard to much for me, of course to each their own...they sell a ton of them so some must like those narrow necks...I'm just not one of them.
Got rid of a beautiful ric for that reason,
I bought one of these and mine was nothing like the picture that I chose it from !!! It came as a short scale with a neck more like a cricket bat than a guitar tried to contact the supplier …..gave up in the end !
I would have removed the high strings and just have it as a 6 string until the nut and frets are proper then add back the high strings.
After all that time watching you work on this "masterpiece"...you could have at least played the thing!
Come on Dave. An instrument is an instrument. Don’t mess with the dream. We all buy crap from time to time.
And I was gonna send you my chickenbacker bass !!
And my ol’ Ovation Magnum II 1974 bass
Dave loathes Rick basses, actual legit Rick basses. A Chickenbacker bass would literally give the poor guy a stroke.
Where can I buy one of these?
Aliexpress.
The STRINGS ARE ON WRONG.
For this model of Rick starting with the 620 THE LOW STRING IS FIRST opposite to the usual high string on top it should be on the bottom. That's Rickenbacker's design for this series of 12's.
Look closely at the string arrangement on the originals of these.
try playing it..it DOES NOT WORK. Petty and McGuinne ..have a look..you version is impossible play rock on
@@DavesWorldofFunStuff It's not MY version it's the way the guitar was designed. Look at the photos of the 660 12TP. Look at the head-stock close ups. Whether you reverse the string arrangement after you buy the guitar is another matter.
As far as Mcguinn there's a video of him playing T-man and his lows appear to be on top. The video upload is low-res though. Have a look. Look for The 12-String Guitar of Roger McGuinn
Homespun Music Instruction
The AvE of guitars
Asweome video. It may be fake, but sure looks good. Found it on good old ali Express for $328. $428 with case. Just had to look.
And for about the same price, you could get a Danelectro 12 that will play right out of the box. And you won't be supporting the counterfeit market.
@@StringsandWings $328 for a Danelectro 12? You sure about that?
@@roytofilovski9530 I paid $420 for mine and it's a lefty so, yeah. Figure in the price of someone like Dave having to deal with the shite, well worth it.
@@StringsandWings awesome. I never order from ali anyway. I've heard way to many bad things.
Kentucky Fried Chickenbacker
@dave Wish you had played a few chords after you fiddled with the string height. The clone is not a neck-through as the original 660, wrong tailpiece. Seen some MIC 660 TP's with the wrong pickup spacing. A difficult body to build IMO. Originals of these go for 8 grand. Better strings are night and day for these MIC units. There's no video of this particular 660/12 solid body clone I can find to hear what the guitar sounds like after set-up. The semi-hollow "cat's eye" ones of the Ric 12 seen on YT sound awful. And the people playing them in the videos can't tell the difference.
plus, real rickenbacker 12-strings have the heavy string on top...and the octave-up string below...this one is reversed :)
@@DavesWorldofFunStuff I have the nineties re-issue of the 1963 George Harrison Hard Days Night 360 model :) Fireglo etc :)
@@DavesWorldofFunStuff reverse one of what? (TO what?)
When I was a kid, we used to call all Japanese stuff shit and that’s when they were more than half of the American made counter part. The Chinese version is about ten percent and they have it down. We’re in denial and that means trouble
hey Dave...
in your considered opinion, would that truss rod/neck/headstock be able to handle a set of these?
www.pickofthericks.com/thomastik-infeld-custom-flatwound-12-string-set-010-044/
Chinese? Is it really a Ric then? I thought they were always made in the states.
I had a real Ric 12 string years ago. Sold it. Bought a 12 string pedal for the songs that called for 12 strings. Never again. A chinese 12 string fake ric...no.
The shop I fix gee-tahs in has the 6-string version chxbacker in Grey Poupon gold. Its in about the same condition as your Petty. People always ask me if I'll be doing a set-up on it. aaaa...no!
i just spent way too long lmao over "chickenbacker"
Man, that looks like a mess. It's hard enough for _Rickenbacker_ to get a Ric 12 right, let alone a Chinese copy.I could use that truss rod cover though, for my 360/12. I have the old style that gets bitten into by the strings.
What disrespect for the spirit of Tom Petty; on another note, please do more Chinese guitars purely for the entertainment value. I would play the Breakdown on that bad boy.
Rick Allen Not only is it disrespectful to Tom Petty, it’s disrespectful to Rickenbacker-an American company that has ALWAYS made their products in the USA, additionally it’s disrespectful to the American workers who build the real thing and ANYONE who owns a Rickenbacker. This counterfeit to save a buck crap is getting out of hand.
You are doing a service showing people the uneven quality of Chinese fakes,Plus its hilarious maybe do 1 here and there just too funny and strangely addicting.
@@charlesbolton8471 anyone who has the budget to buy overpriced machine made guitars can, but for the rest of us, well stick to chickenbackers until they release a budget line.
Did Tom Petty actually sign that?
Jeez this guy does the same thing over and over LOL
If I'm not mistaken, the strings seem to be switched. Meaning the high octave string on the bottom. Not, on the top like every other 12 string. Is this a secret to the Rick sound?
Please Sir, about the secret.
:)
Ricks are set up that way. Not that this is an actual Rick but.....
Stringing that way is a big part of the rick 12 sound.
I actually put a real truss cover on my daughters first guitar. She was a big John Lennon fan.
I don't know why, but you remind me of George Carlin if he worked on guitars...
Does it really matter where the guitars are made? People are paying you to do a job you should be thankful for that, besides your always fixing Fender crap and you dont complain about that right!
It matters because they are deliberate counterfeits. He should sling them straight in a woodchipper.
@@SimplyReg well thats your opinion, alot of reall Gibsons should be tossed in a wood chipper as well