Ibanez Rickenbacker Bass Not as Bad as The Real Thing
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Dave has the exact same personality as grouchy old record store owners, live sound engineers, and roadies. They're all the same cartoon character.
itchyvinyl I'm destined for that route, although I may hit it prematurely
they've seen shit ok
One of my favorite people in the world was Randy...from Randy's Records in Pomona, CA. We used to hang out with beers after he closed shop...and listened to records while he vented his agonies about most of his customers who came in looking for the worst fucking music possible.
He lived in the back, sorted nothing...and had hundreds of boxes just stuffed with 45's in his "personal" room.
I really miss him. If you see this Randy...the Art Colony just isn't the same without you.
@@xzysyndrome He's have a field day with today's crap.
@@ericcotter1984 agreed, im a 30 plus years of working on film, and you get grumpy over the years cause of the knowledge you get and sometimes
you have to get use to theold
'i told you so' mode and fix problems of the new crew members and feel anoyed. it happens.
Personally, I laugh my ass off while Dave swears at these instruments. I've learned a few things by accident. Keep up the great work Mr Dave!!
I had one of these back in the 70's and it was great. I swapped it later in a music shop for a 1963 Fender Jazz. I know it seams loony now, but in those days guitars weren't really collectable!
the truss rod tighter than a nun on a sunday
For sure. Tighter than a bull's arse at fly time.
2:09! I am wheezing with laughter.
😮😅😂😱🤯
Oh my god!!!😂😂😂
Thanks for still keeping these videos up Dave. Really enjoy watching them when they're uploaded, very interesting and they help pass time. Good work man
I come for the guitars, I stay for the profanity.
2:08 "It's not all stripped-out like an old tranny's butthole..." words of wisdom.
leroyatleroys 😂
Same. "Stripped out, like an old Trannys butthole", spat my coffee out laughing!
I love it! Dave had me laughing my ass off!
@@OFR That was funny as Hell!!
Headstock artwork brought to you by Sharpie. You have been Ezzed in the Backer
"Stop talking and listen to me for a second!" You killed me with that one Dave lul.
Angry guy adjusts a truss rod
With a neck like this it's best to clamp it up forcing a back bow and use lots of heat with Irons ect so you get a back bow when the truss rod is at full loose. Then the truss rod will engage earlier with string on and up to tension. Only thing to watch out for is scalf jointed necks can come apart so you need to clamp the joint real solid before you go with the heat. It's a permanent fix though. If the neck can come off ie a bolt on you can do it in the oven for a quicker result. It also works for twisted or 'S' shaped necks if you can clamp it to a solid straight edge.
Need to start a "Guitar Fax" fox. Guitar history report. Oh that would be cool.
Some of the old Ibanez guitars were very well made, like the old Tokais - they were often better than the USA guitars of the 70s
Often? Try always. You remember Fender doing a Mexican reissue of the Antigua Strat? I own an original ('79 Antigua Strat). Was in my local dealer who had one hung up. Sales kid was amazed when I told him it was better than the original. I've a Tokai from the same 'era' and peeps always ignore the Tokai and drool over the Fender - the Tokai is better in every way. If it weren't for Ibanez, Tokai, Yamaha etc we'd be paying five times as much for Fenders and Gibsons of lower quality than what we currently get for £100.
"This Fahkin Rubik's Cube is gonna kill me"
"whatever turd-festival awaits"
"hand condoms"
this is getting better and better every minute!
sounds like me when cooking food.
i'd love this guy to fix my bass.
Oh man, I bought one when they first came out, and for awhile, I loved it. Then family life told me that being a musician wasn't going to pay the bills. I trade the bass for a set of Silver sparkle LP congas with stand. I still wish I had the bass. I never really had a chance to play it.
It's an Electra too! Corsair 2278. Or a Greco, and like 12 other companies that got them from the Matsumoku factory and threw their logo on the truss rod cover. I just bought one. Noticed the hotter humbucker pickips, a slightly longer neck scale, a screw on neck, the smaller metal hunk around the back pickup, the non-dual truss rod and decided... Well hey, I like all those changes, it's got the looks, it keeps the other things I like about Ricks like the pickup placement, controls and maple neck and body, I found one with an upgraded bridge that included a video demo showing it plays great with a non-gooched neck and all the electronics working fine, and it was a third of the price made in Japan. Sign me up!
You're like a one stop shop for potential band names. Current favourite, "The Bonus Nut Removals".
Dude, I just found and bought that tshirt for my 8 year old. Hes smart as they come, skipping grades and really into engineers. I'm so glad I subbed you.
Any tradesman, craftsman etc. that's seen it all a thousand times over, eventually develops this type of attitude. When you fix things for a living and see the same design flaws over and over again, you get jaded. the butthurt from the Ricky owners and PC snowflakes is what makes the comments entertaining. Never change Dave!
Love your positive attitude.
Oh man. I owned one of these in highschool, same finish and everything, except the truss-rod cover said Ibanez. It played like a banana but sounded really heavy. Didn't know any better wish I still had it lol. Thnx Dave!
Take a good look again at the opening sequence around 20 seconds in- Pretty sure the truss rod cover on this one also said Ibanez before someone went after it with white-out and sharpie. I’ve almost bought a Rickenbacher a couple of times through the years now, as a lover of early Geddy Lee tones, and as someone who always thought it would be fun to mess around with Rickosound stereo outputs, but I could never quite get past how overpriced the Ricks seem to be for what they are. I’ve had lots of Ibanez branded products through the years, from a classical acoustic through to several basses, and have yet to find one I didn’t think was a fantastic instrument for the price point. Probably the favourite bass I ever had was a lawsuit era Ibanez Fender Jazz copy that I bought used in the late 70s and sold for peanuts when I went back to school in the late 80s, after having at various times through the years ignorantly sanded down the beautiful original sunburst finish which came to me with a bit of genuinely earned distress patina, and replacing that with first white automotive rattle can, then black, then stripping and sanding everything down again and going to a lightish stain and clear lacquer . My first crack at it with the white rattlecan when I was 16 or so probably wasn’t much better quality work than the truss rod cover on this one, and I certainly now regret having messed with the original finish, but the final product actually looked pretty good overall, and I definitely regret ever letting that one go- it might have something to do with where my personal case of “guitar acquisition syndrome” came from……
You can put a flat washer on the truss rod, I fixed a Gibson CS-356 like that when the truss rod wouldn't tighten any more, the threads were just bottoming out. Hard part is finding one that fits, I just happened to have... 😉 It should never be that hard to twist to achieve a back-bow. When you're twisting that hard, you're probably making new threads on the rod, too much of that & bye-bye threads, stripped. Oops... MAJOR repair ahead. 😳
Zeek Duff z
Is there a Rickenbacker cult or something? So many people getting triggered in the comments because Dave doesn't like them lol
Yes, there is a Rickenbacker cult. It's based at the Rickresource forum, where acolytes line up to take potshots at anyone that has a problem with RIC's notorious quality control issues.
go to you tube and watch them get bul;t, its a wonder they stay together, the neck body connection seems really weak.But I've never seen one broken into.
they're not as bad as Gibson fanboys tho. Just try shitting on their current production quality and they come out of the woodwork and try and bite your testicles off (maybe they just like the flavour of testicles who knows)
I don't care if he doesn't like them. I do care that he's mostly wrong about them. He had a bad experience with a Rick bass and now all ricks are crap (according to Dave). There is plenty to criticize about Rickenbacker. Especially their shitty customer service. But they're good solid instruments.
kevin paul halliday - Serious, non-trolling question here: What copies would you consider superior replicas? I've seen some copies, but always thought they couldn't get close to "that sound"...
@ 2:08 Dave proceeds to win the internet today...
Ibanezed (again) by a Stick-in-your-backer. The daily double.
Dave’s monologue is pure comedy genius!
It is fight every time with Dave and a Rickey......and in this corner !!!
One guy at Ibanez felt the same about Rikki as you do, so changed all the bits that suck and that is how the Ibanez BTB came about.
Just seen this for the first time and haven't laughed so much for ages Dave. Can you bottle some of that and add it to the store please for those days when the ceiling falls in on you. Great video and thanks for posting your guitar and life wisdom and humour. Cheers Paul in the UK.
I've fixed this problem many times with a couple of washers
YES! Anytime a truss rod nut wont turn, it is quite possible that the rod doesn't have enough threads on it . A couple of properly sized washers cn remedy the problem
Interesting bass, I like how they didn't even waste their time with the bridge pickup cover
I love how u just manually bent the trussrod didn't know u could do tht fuckin amazing worked like a charm
I don't understand why you didn't put some lube on the truss rod nut when you had it off?
i was thinking the exact same thing. I got a guitar with a stuck truss rod once but a few drops of Liquid Wrench took care of that. But yeah, I thought he'd drop some 3-in-1 down on the truss.
Thank you for posting. This is awesome.
Do you recommend linseed oil on ebony boards Dave?
Backwards in the drawer like me, brilliant!
nice save Dave. I learn something every video. thanks.
DAVE SHIT MAN!! I needed a good laugh when I tuned this in. My girlfriend split, and now I'm the HATED guitar building from hell. HEY, who knew, right! ANYWAY, when you were taking off that stupid rod cover, you said. 'Now how does this fucken Rubick's Cube work?" THAT friggin cracked me up. Actually laughing out loud in the shop alone. Of course, right, girlfriend left...yeah....we been through that.....
Thanks, MAN!!!
Thanks for putting the good humor back into guitar repair!! I think you kind of put perspective back into the art of guitar building and repair. It's like life in general.....that is: Don't take shit soooo seriously. You eat, sleep, screw, play music then you die! Better enjoy it while it lasts!
greg
Greg I think we are all surprised you have a girlfriend. COUGH( sure you do, maybe an inflatable) , oh wait i get it, but you see most of us don't consider mom as a girlfriend, but whatever turns your crank .
Pick up is no good. But what happens to pickups? Besides losing magnetic properties...the winding is still there...when they fail like this, what's the cause?
I love to watch someone that enjoys their work. :)
Sarcasm?
No, thank you Dave for some of the most entertaining and informative videos on youtube Love your work!
That neck plate at the end scared the freakin shit out of me!
Dave thanks for the laughs love your channel and humor!!Cheers have a great long weekend!
Whenever I need a little chuckle I watch Dave do his magic to some of these "turds".Thanks Dave for being you.
I'm glad to know I'm not the only guy who talks to himself while working on projects. Good informative videos. Yes, working on other folks gear isn't always a joy, I cuss similarly and possibly may have called someone a rat bastard on more than one occasion.
"Stripped out like an old trannies asshole", I lost it right there.
how can Ibanez use the rickenbackho name on the headstock?
Frank Havran Looks like the owner wrote the name on there with a permanent marker.
22:26 "the frets … were they lacquered over?!" Definitely *yes* I'm sorry to say! My own Ibanez Rick from the same era has that same "charming detail" LOL!
Some clamps to create a back bow, and a spacer in front of the truss rod nut? No?
I haven't a clue about instruments but you are entertaining.
Merry Christmas Dave... Just going back and watching reruns tonight. You da man.
"I even found you a knob -you knob"... 26:22
why I love Dave: 2:08 11:13
love your temperament in these videos. good fun
As you have said in the past, a quality instrument is easily repaired.
i think he meant impaired
Hey, Dave - is it not a good idea to stick some sort of lubricant on the truss rod before cranking it so hard?
Enjoyed the video, keep 'em coming.
Love the sound when you loosen the truss rod. BAM!
I've worked on one of these with a friend before! It was aftermarket blue though! The binding look crazy cool exposed too.
Sounds good unplugged. Makes me wonder what would be a good pickup selection.
Love the show dude
You are a talented guy Dave as if you didn't know....
*turns truss rod... SNAP*
oH gOD...
I remember that bass....
Two videos in and I'm subscribed. This dude is fuckin' hilarious...Then again, he's a fellow "Dave" so of course he is. Every time he hit the pickup with the screwdriver I nearly fell out of my chair....Ibanez in their "Lawsuit" era....some of their best stuff.
I paid my two bits to see Geddy Lee's high diving act
and I'm not leaving till I hear someone play YYZed :/
So what bass would you recommend? I like Warwick would you say those are bad basses?
Thanks for sharing your knowledge Brother!!!!!
"This fuckin' Rubik's Cube is gonna kill me..." Love it!
Hey Dave. I'd recommend Smitty from MJS pickups to do any sort of that work.
He's from mississauga as well.
Wouldn't it be great if you had skully and geddy there for commentary on one of your bass repairs?
Those were the factory pups. Ibby "Ricks" came in various configurations. I believe all were bolt-ons, but some had those T-Bird style pups instead of a bad hi-gain copy. Some even had a toaster on the neck. Really fascinating era of guitars.
Yup, they're the same Maxon pick-ups as on my own (lefty) Ibanez Rick copy from the same era.
A bit late to the party but I’m thinking that a bit of grease on the truss rod nut before putting it back on might have helped.
I have a neck through Greco copy from 1979. Bought it after trying several new Rick 4003s and being seriously underwhelmed by the build quality and finish. The Greco is hands down the best bass I've ever played.
I have a Greco VB90 Beatle bass, fantastic instrument!
Dave, you're a fucking magician! Love you brother!
I'm buying a new bass do you have any recommendations?
Can you not add a washer or two behind the tr nut? That'd give you more thread to work with
try it
From the Stretch Armstrong school of truss rod adjustment.
Interesting video.I don't play bass, and I don't work on instruments, but this was interesting.
Bruce Foxton from The Jam used one
Then he discovered the Fender Precision.
1. I think I saw in Dan Erlewine’s repair book where he took the nut off a Gibson truss rod and added a couple washers to give it more room to work. I know I has been some time since this repair but do you think this may be an effective solution for similar situations in the future?
2. Any idea why in the hell Rickenbacker would choose to put finish (I am assuming urethane?) on a rosewood fretboard? Who else does this (besides those making a “Rick” copy)?
3. Big advantage with that Ibanez copy is a bolt-on neck where you can easily adjust the neck angle with shims as necessary!
Looks like it would be a nice bass (nicer than an actual “Rick” if you sort out the issues.
Ray Sauter Ricks have had gloss finishes on their fretboards forever. Why they do it I can only speculate. Possibly they were concerned about the necks warping. The original necks were very thin and not very wide when they first came out in the ‘60s. Maybe they were trying to protect the Bubinga wood they used for fretboards, or to help keep the tone consistent. Regardless it’s an old convention and Ricks tend not to change much over time.They also used to be picky about what replacement strings owners used in their old warranties. I have a mid-‘70s 4001 and it has a much thinner neck then they do today. However, that gloss finish does feel glassy smooth when polished nicely.
Shite is a great auld Liverpool expression. I salute your use of it sir. 😀
G'day Dave.
Funny that the knockoff is preferable. The real thing just looks tedious as hell to work on and this one with all its problems looks like a better buy haha
ffairlane57 hell, Squier has been making better Strats than Fender.
Hell I picked up a 600 dollar Fender P Bass and a 200 Dollar Ibanez Bass the other day at the store and the Ibanez had it beat hands down. I know the Fender was a MIM but I also know the difference isn't much the Fender had nothing wrong with it the strings were decent the neck and action was just where it should be the Ibanez was just a better bass that was more comfortable and had better tone. I liked the P Bass I would play it any day. But for 1/3 the cost the Ibanez was a better instrument. I should have compared the Squier P Bass with the Fender but I ran out of time.
fender makes squire.. its an affordable alternative, good for beginners
dont get me wrong, i have both and play both
Like your vid Dave. When I have a stubborn truss rod like that I use a drop of 3 in one oil on it. Is that a bad idea ?
You're better off with using liquid graphite lock lube. I had a stuck Fender truss rod on a new Jaguar, the "Player Special" whatever MIM, and you gotta remove the neck to get at the truss rod adjustment. I took the adjusting nut off, poured in about half a teaspoon, let it sit upright overnight so the stuff would run down the full length, and next day it worked perfectly. I wouldn't put oil in there, there's raw wood and oil will make it swell up. Worse problem, then. The liquid carrier of the lock lube evaporates fairly quickly, leaving just a fine coating of graphite. Good stuff, that.
This is why I won't work on Rickenbackers, genuine and copy alike. Well, a few other reasons, too. I think old Rickenbacker frets are indeed lacquered over, are they not? In any case, this copy's were. Pretty sure StewMac makes some kind of an apparatus to thread truss rods further for this sort of scenario, so you don't have to take the fingerboard off. I'm sure that's a nightmare on a Ric, too, though.
Some guitars just aren't designed well. That's a known fact,.... a given. The thing is, we get them, they are a fact of life. Once we discover the issues, we'll call the customer [actually email], with our opinion and the facts.
BUT DAVE, you gotta give the customer more to go on........The difference is that we'll give that customer a pretty good idea of what it would cost to make it playable at least, and another cost, to make it perfect. That sort of thing. Otherwise, if you just say it's gooched, the poor customer has no basis as to approving or rejecting a repair.
Greg
Do they still make these ?
Bruce Foxton from The Jam used to play one before he could afford a real Rick
...and then he ditched the real one for a P Bass.
...and he briefly played an Aria SB 1000 (check out The Jam's final TV performance on The Tube).
Yeah, that bass sounded really good but looked stupid. I'm all about the looks, fuck tone.
Ah beat me to it. Probably the only semi interesting jam fact i know.
So did the bass player Peter Hook from Joy Division
I'd love to try one of these if I could locate one in decent condition, just to see how it compares to a seventies era 4001. The fact that this has a normal truss rod is already an upgrade from a Rick 4001
Anything is an upgrade from a Rick 4001
Please, the entire Rickenbacker line features the state of the art in nineteen forties guitar technology.
I feel like the double truss rod might be a bit like a Floyd Rose, where it only works if everything is done perfectly and if it isn't it just fuckles everything.
Aria Rick replicas are really supposed to be quite respectable actually, even with the dual truss rod. I've not played one, but several people have demos of them that make a pretty good argument for how fine they are.
I have a Carlo Robelli Rickenbacker Bass 1978. The repair on the neck is very good, BUT it suffered from the Rickenbacker curse. I heard the best Ric's are after 1991.
I have always wondered : how is it legal for ibanez to produce such basses ? I thought Rickenbaker had a patent on the original design or something
What do they call that a rocknblocker?
Anybody have one of these they’re willing to sell? I’ve been looking for a while but can’t find :/
Could that be that "vintage sound" capacitor under that tape splice?
I got a 74 ibanez neck thru. Best bass/guitar i have ever played. Maybe some lemons maybe some roses. Whatever.... Mine is fine for me and never trade it for anything! Might be best guitar i ever played. 74 ibanez. Not rick with double truss...
I have a Japanese bass with a pickup identical to the one shown here and it is dead too. Did you say Seymour Duncan actually Makes a repro?
Try "Retrovibe Pickups" for a replacement.
11:13 That's that Chinese " Metal" like the frets it's made out of Tin. Lol
'Chinesium' a mysterious alloy created by skimming different layers out of a crucible with properties that vary based on what day of the week it was cast.
Instead of a new pup get a new pick guard that covers the rout, switch and two knob holes. Now you got a 4000.
That appears to be a UNIVOX copy of a RICK from the 1970s.
John McCarroll. There’s a bass player locally who used a Univox Rick copy for years.
Have you ever worked or played a Schecter Stargazer? Another Rick-lookin' thing I've always admired, but never got my hands on.
" I even found you a knob.. you NOB"...Hahaha. Again I notice Canadian Humour is remarkably similar to British.