Rickenbacker Bass Guitar Just The Best EVER
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He're the journey of getting a Ric with the expectation that it can be made to play modern and dependable:
- remove the pickup cover from the assembly
as it hinders half of the picking/plucking area
- nowhere to rest your thumb and the remaining metal pickup cover can shred your
hand, ok fine you bought it to play it with a pick anyway
- discover adjusting intonation is a pain in the butt
- two truss rods, cool I can have different relief for thick and thin strings and also maybe correct a twisted neck
- well they're still single action so they're double useless if the neck ever gets backbow or backbow-ish twist
- official manual saying you want to bend the neck first with external force when adjusting truss rods doesn't bode well, are they prone to break?
- discover you can't get the action reasonably low on factory bridge
- discover you can't palm mute due to the foam mute assembly
- consider cutting slots into the saddles
- screw it, just buy the Hipshot replacement bridge
- discover the intonation is always imperfect due to the frets having no crowns
- discover you can't really recrown them cause there's very little fret that's above fingerboard lacquer
- consider a refret, discover it's not the same price as for your Jazz Bass refret cause it's a pain to do when fretboard was lacquered after frets were put in
- ok will live with those frets
- discover those soft vintage alloy frets are eaten up by strings to fretboard lacquer level after two months of frequent playing
- order a stero jack to 2x mono jack Y cable cause they never ever stock it at your local music store
- plug it into a bass amp and guitar amp at the same time
- enjoy how cool Ric o Sound, well, sounds - for 10 minutes, then never ever use the stereo output again
- enjoy the distinct growl and attack in the sound of the bass, but quickly become aware it's all it ever does (tone knobs, pickup selection switch, even the foam mute will never get this to sound round and mellow)
- it's a know fact the bass goes great with overdrive, so logically you get no RWRP hum cancelling middle position and no cavity shielding, because vintage, because Rickenbacker, because fuck you, and boy can it sometimes hum and buzz
- do the math that you could've bought a US Fender for half the price and it would've been stage ready after adjusting a few screws
Bonus step:
- ask for advice on any of those things, get scolded by Rickenbacker zealots that you don't deserve to play them if you don't accept them 100% as they are
gryzew...that last little bit you said,"Rickenbacker Zealots" that definitely defines my cousin,lol!
American Fender basses aren’t half the price of 4003s. Cheaper yes.
I put multiple layers of tape on the top of the bridge pickup bar magnet edge and rested my thumb there. Perfect anchor point and plucking point on the strings, for me at least. My pick was used very little with the Rick. I found my amp and bass knobs could get the tone and attack I wanted. I never liked resting my hand on the bridge when picking--which is where you have to be to get good leverage and attack IMHO.
Amazing comment 😂
Take the plastic chrome cover off the bridge pickup and fill in the cavity with a "Treble Bezel cover" with a built in thumb rest. To play a Ric, you have to be a wee bit smarter then a Ric. I own 51 style P basses, 57 style P basses, Jazz basses and Rics. I love playing the Ric the most.
"Let's plug it in and see if it actually makes a sound"
*Rubs hands*
buzzzzzzzz
Dave with a few brews and a rickenbacker setup is better than than watching a classic three stooges episode
I've had a Rick bass since 1986 and I have never had ANY of the problems Dave loves to talk about.
love when Dave fix rickenbackers :D
I, on the other hand, hate it. :D Give Dave a break and don't bring his nemesis on his workbench. As much as I love Dave's grumbling, I'm not a sadist! XD
Love it when Dave rages against the gooch
It's great for the derisive jokes....
I've watched a lot of guitar repair vids Dave and yours is no disgrace.
I wonder if you are the same Jim Ford I know?
Yes..
Dave had to go a Roundabout way to fix it...
Dave tends to keep me Close To The Edge of my seat
And you and I know Dave loves these basses he he
Rick's are in a world by themselves. You either love them or hate them; there is no grey area or middle ground. For me, the Rick bass provided some very influential tones that cannot be denied. I have played them but unfortunately, I've never owned one. Soon, hopefully, I will get one. They have their own mojo and secret sauce that other makers can't duplicate. Love the new belly carve.
Dave been playing Ric for 30 years, never broke a E string.
Thank you! Same here. Never broke any string on one of those, for that matter.
If I remember correctly that dave got so mad at his rick that he walked out of a back/side door to the gig he was playing at and he took his 4001 and smashed it onto a trash dumpster ! A very sad situation to me ! I love my ricks,thunderbirds,jazz's and p-basses equally and individually ! Each and every bass no matter who makes it needs to have some work done on them in order to make them play correctly or as close as you can get them !
These basses aren't for everyone and I get the hatred they get. But personally my Rick is my best playing bass and I love the damn thing despite it's flawa
The mono output is nearest to the strap button. The Ric-O-Sound TRS stereo is the second output.
Ric basses have been a staple in my bass diet for over 40 years. I've been married to one for over 24 years now. Regular maintenance is all It's ever needed through touring, recording, rehearsals and daily practice. I used to break strings all the time, turned out it was me not the bass. I haven't broken a string on her in over 15 years. I love my Fenders too but they all pale in comparison, especially in tone. Anyone who's gigged with me have always asked me to bring the Ric. Admittedly, this one seems different, special maybe? I haven't heard or played another that sounds quite the same or as good. Maybe I lucked out. But this bass is proof that a Ric can have a long and useful lifespan.
Beautiful bass
Thanks for the Chris Squire serenade. He made me want a Ric.
Glenn Cerny I love Chris Squire and his tone. Also Lemmy Kilmister. Regardless of how finicky Rickenbackers are you have to admit they sound amazing in so many different styles of music. Paul McCartney’s tone on Abbey Road is killer and is all a Rickenbacker with tapewound strings.
Can anybody imagine Rickenbacker corporate executives being forced to watch these videos in court?
Love the ole Rickenbacker even though it is a pain to upkeep.
The jacks should never be removed from the outside. The guard needs to come off so that the jacks can be pulled through the cavity from the inside. They become misaligned when removing and reinserting from the outside. This appears to be a 4003, which has a different truss rod than a 4001,which DOES require manipulating the neck to adjust. A 4003 can be adjusted entirely with the truss rod tool.
As long as you keep making videos, I'll keep watching!✌️
Man I love my RIC 4003, but it is a heck of a headache to set up. Especially compared to all my Fenders. I took my RIC in last week to my local guitar tech and when I popped open the case and took it out he literally sighed and rolled his eyes like "Oh shit...one of those damn things." I've gotten pretty comfortable doing most of my own mods, maintenance, and set-up on my Fenders. But that damn RIC, I gotta take it to someone. That being said, I will probably never sell it. For better or worse, nothing looks or sounds like a RIC.
Just the one bass I had that kept snapping strings. A Yamaha Attitude 5.
The saddle slots were V shaped so the strings never touched the bottom of the slots. So they were supported at two points, which led to them levering themselves to death as they were plucked and vibrated. Once I figured it out it was a simple matter to U out the bottoms of the slots.
It took me a while to figure because I was using Superwound strings at the time and it wasn’t immediately apparent that they weren’t making contact with the bottom of the slots.
U slots that are cut too deep can do a similar leverage snapping thing too.
Aah Superwound strings, where did they go ?
Stayed bright for Sooo long. Maybe that was the point; maybe lasted so long that sales dropped …
On my Wal basses especially (one got stolen so I had to find another) they sounded glorious.
FWIW...
Rickenbacker now has their upgraded, version 2 bridge available for their basses. The new bridge has several adjustable features that the former style did not have. As of December 2019 the VW bridge comes as standard with all new 4003 basses from their factory.
Rickenbacker basses had the belly cut even back in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, and present
"Well. here we go... My Nemesis..."
You can do it!
never owned one but if I did? Hipshot Rickenbacker 4 String Bass Bridge , among other things.
I never have these problems with my ric😂
Deal ! You keep making them, we'll keep watching them !
Dave/Dave here. Love watching the show. Thank you.
That ground up wrench is EXACTLY what I need for a Kay Archtop with the smallest little peep-hole around the truss rod you’ve ever seen. 3/4 of an inch may be calling it too generously. I think they REALLY don’t want anyone to touch that nut.
What's not to love about Dave's show? It's A1 all the way in my estimation!!
Dave is no disgrace! Yes!
That bridge is an engineering nightmare !
In my 2017 Rickenbacker 4003 manual - you don’t have to bend “help” the neck anymore. Just turn the rods without any pressure on the neck.
Never seen Geddy break a string.
Geddy replaced the Rick bridges with Leo Quan Bad Ass bridges back in the 70s.
Ged didn't play them for very long
@@BAJARACER43X So do you consider 10 years not very long? He got his first one in 1973 and played a variety of them as his main basses until Signals, and then one last time for The Body Electric on Grace Under Pressure.
geddy hates rics
@@roman14032 no he loves them he just prefers the jazz bass because it had a better lower end
I have one........ a 2015 model. It was annoying to set up, but once I got it the way I like it, I've enjoyed a great deal. The newer ones have a better truss design, better pickups, and better frets.... but they are still quirky.
My friend Reita has 1, in Maple. She plays fingerstyle, left the pick up cover on, & rests her fingers on it. She always gets a good sound out of her Ric.
@@DMSProduktions I left the cover on mine too. I also left mine with the cover on. It's a unique instrument.
I love the quality plastic pickup cover on ricks
I'm happy I found this channel a few weeks ago. Always entertaining, and I always learn something
The blonde finish is nice. There. We said something positive.
You were only getting one pickup because the jack closer to the neck is the stereo jack. The jack closer to the bridge is the mono jack.
Whoa! This vid gave me horrible flashbacks of working on my friend's 1984 RIC a few years back. The engineering wasn't thought through and the workmanship was pretty slip shot. I was SO happy when I got the control cavity back on and the thing still worked. (There was multiple failed attempts). After I returned the bass to my friend, I told him that if he ever open the control cavity cover, all bets are off! 'Nuff said.
A quality instrument is easily maintained...Uncle Leo...learned that from goochstreet
If you plug into the RicOSound jack with a mono plug, you'll only get one pickup to sound.
And I'm guessing that there's some commercial version of the sanded 1/4" wrench available from the good folks at Stew Mac for seventy dollars or so U.S.
bcrich581 rickenbacker sell their own wrench for about 20 bucks. They beat StewMac to the punch on that.
@@McOuroborosBurger Anybody who owns a Ric or works on them and doesn't own a 1/4" "Ric-Wrench is either a cheap bastard or a jack-wad.
gutbucket im guilty of the first, i dod get one eventually though. Never had to really adjust tho.
Had many basses over almost 50 years but my mid-70's blonde Rickie 4001 is the bass I most regret parting with. Still love the shape and scale but the bridge design was/is dismal and the lack of resultant sustain was the main reason for trading it in for a Japanese Aria bass (which I no longer have but don't lust after) because I couldn't afford to have both - sigh....
Rics always looked fascinating but attempting to play one always caused that 'fascination to quickly disappear.
sdushdiu Yeah, they're just not any good to anyone who's gotten used to Fender-style basses. Necks seem not to have any taper, they sound super clanky and way too bright, the string tension's weird, the frets are laughably tiny yet too flat for good intonation even if you manage to get the saddles adjusted right, and the necks go crazy in any kind of temperature or humidity variation. They're really cool looking, and guys that play them well get cool tones out of them, but it's just not worth it. Oh, and a Ric bridge is just the DUMBEST damn thing there is. Uncomfortable, hard to use, complicated, low-quality, non-functional abortion of a thing. You get almost the same sounds from a Jazz Bass, and it will be guaranteed to work and play perfectly forever with minimal fussing-with, and be way more indestructible and repairable if you somehow do tear it up. Rics are cool, and I'm glad they exist, but they're just not for me at all.
@@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney ...I'm not a bassist, I play regular guitar...but I can thump on one and make it LOOK like I know what I'm doing, lol..
But anyway,my cousin plays bass and he actually has this model Ric...hes a badass on it,its his favorite bass
I will use nothing else in the studio. The Rolls Royce of bass guitars.
Yeah, the folks that are into them tend to REALLY be into them. I get that because they feel and (to a lesser degree) sound NOTHING like a normal bass guitar. Some folks are into Danelectros and cheesy '60s Sears catalog weirdo Japanese guitars and basses, too. I'm glad they're all out there, and I'm glad the folks that like them like them. Rickenbackers are extremely well-made (the handful I've seen and played), they're just bizarrely designed and super-inconveniently/uncomfortably engineered. I have an old Japanese 'lawsuit' (Greco) Jazz Bass that I routed for new pickup openings at the same harmonic points that a Ric's are. Just filled the bridge pickup opening with a pickup-shaped wood 'inlay', for lack of a better term, got a no-hole pickguard and cut a pickup hole in the new spot, and refinished it in black nitro. Looks factory. The stock Greco pickups were real low-output like a Ric's. Then I very painstakingly leveled and dressed the frets so I could get a super-low action, and Voila! Indistinguishable from a Rickenbacker 4003 to my pretty trained ears when played through an EQ pedal with the bass cut and high mids and treble boosted, but it's a Fender-style bass, so normal humans can play it, haha! I was real into Yes at the time, and wanted a Ric that played and felt right. They're very cool, just not remotely for me.
Consider that for a vintage bolt on neck, you’d like to pre bend the neck before a truss rod adjustment to be safe. That’s life.
Every Rick is a drive down Goochington Avenue
I can tell you just love Rickenbacker Basses NOT lol. I've been a bass player for almost 40 years I've had many fenders I love my Ibanez sr500 I always wanted a Rickenbacker and the reason I never bought one I just felt they were way way overpriced. I love the way Geddy Lee played them, I love the way Chris Squire played them but I never actually owned one I have played them. Now after watching you wrestle with these dang things I'm sure glad I'm still a fender man! Oh I agree with you I always hated that stupid metal thing that went over the top pick up that was right in the way of where you played even though I only played a Rickenbacker bass a couple times. I still really enjoy watching you work on them because I can tell you love them so much hahaha
its a piece of art...if you cant play it due to problems...hang it on a wall for display...its a cool looking bass
Try putting Flatwound strings on a Rickenbacker; but keep the truss rod cover off and the wrench handy !!
Bought a 2012 rickenbacker yesterday for £1.6k and it was amazing to use. It was an easy set up and an easy string change. But it is a 2012 ric which is considered the best year for rics as the truss rod and bridge are easier to adjust and fit a lot more securely. Plus they are built a lot stronger. It's a shame to see that the rics made after 2012 got worse again. But nonetheless, the later ones are built way better than the pre 90s rics.
Love the Bill Lawrence shirt Dave
I think Geddy just screamed...
Rickenbacker should do what all the other companies do and have a "modern" and "vintage" model. You want the vintage one with warts and all? Great! Here you go. You want the sound and aesthetics of a Ric but with modern design improvements? Here you go! Problem solved. By the way I'm not hating at all. I'm currently saving for a 4003. I don't have the good sense to listen to Dave haha.
Send Dave more Ricks, He loves them
Loved my 76 4001 Rick, put a bad asshole and cosmetic plex plate on it. I used to break lots of strings, But never on that bass. I don't think I have ever had strings on a bass for more that 12-20 hrs of playing. Back in the day I never changed strings cause they are expensive. I would break the Deans M sr 2000 piano wound, but the rotosound SB 45 to 105 round wounds have been the the best strings I have ever used. They are hard on frets if you have to squeeze to hard. But keeping ;my basses set up like you Dave, I get to enjoy them with less trama. Great vids! Cheers
This went smooth for such a finnicky beast of a bass, really nice work
A .30 cal brass brush for cleaning gun barrels works great to clean 1/4 inch plug sockets.
Bill lives !
I love the Ric videos, just to watch and listen to Dave's unabashed hatred for them. My favorite bassist in the world Al Cisneros plays Rics and consequently I still want one...But I'm a dummy so what can ya do.
The truss rods in newer Rics you do not have to bend the neck to adjust.....I have a 2020 Ric 4003s with New bridge and to be honest....it smokes a lot of basses I have had....and I have had many to each his own.
I’ve got a new one too, sounds great, looks great, plays great.
Daves FAVOURITE - a gooched Ricky, looks just like mine..
hi all,
i am owner of a Rick 4003 from 2010 ( my first rick ) and i would like to put round wound strings on it,
which one would be recommended?
With the Rick-o-sound you should only get one pickup
More hilarious Rick-o-Bashing. Love it! Some great tips as always, Dave. Thank you, sir.
We must remember that Rickenbacker's became popular because of the Beatles. PRIMARILY the 12 string that they GAVE to George. So all of us mindless 60's teenagers said "They're good enough for the Fab Four; I want one !!" Debate in 5,4,3 ,2..........
They sound amazing tho. And they are the coolest looking basses ever. Ever.
I agree 100%, that’s why I own three of them, fourth to join the family shortly!
I love 'em too! So many great artists played those guitars over the years.
A Dano longhorn looks even cooler, isn't that much of a pain to repair and maintain and costs about 10 times less.
@@danv8717 THEY SUCK
Great Job on The Expanse Dave. That show is excellent.
Try not to wrap that around anything Dave😂. You two be nice to each other hahahaha 😂.
ONLY one who.played a rick bass n made it sound like thunder was lemme(Lemmy,)as it later was spelled...I don't care for there guitar period either too tinny if that's a word..love your enthusiasm Dave...don't worry another winters coming.....good firewood once the finish burns off...
Love your T-shirt Dave! I have a bunch of Bill's pickups in my basses, love 'em!
"Yesterday a morning came, a smile upon your face"
... Then you had to work on this! :(
And here I was thinking I was gonna learn about the space between my two nuts :/
On a more serious note: I always completely loosen the strings before adjusting the neck relief... Is it optimal to do it under full string tension?
Swing Bass Roto's.......the Original Fret Erasers.....
Thats why you put two output jacks on a guitar. If the one is not working satisfactorily, try the other one.
Another great vid. Thanks.
You crack me up, Bro.. everytime you work on Ricky's 🤣🤣🤣
If they went back to the horse shoe magnet.they'd be smooth on your hand.
Even thought I love the sound of Rick's , your P Bass and Jazz Bass will just work.
The first bass I ever bought was a '73 4001. Sold it. Never missed it.
Mr. Fister I bought a new Jetglo 4001, it got stolen. It was a blessing, first gig I did with it I broke the D string, this was in ‘75.
played one and wasn't impressed. The tone sucked
My first bass was a '75 4001 (see pic) bought in 1978....never would dream of selling it.
@@digitalbrand5510 Seemed to serve Geddy & Lemmy well for decades!
@@DMSProduktions And put Geddy clearly in the J bass camp !!
Just an FYI, Hipshot makes upgrades for the Gibson and Rickenbacker bass bridges that fucking work
Dissimilar metal corrosion. Yes I agree! But now watching your vid again in 2021, my son who works for me repairing cars informed me that it is actually called Galvanic Corrosion.He went on to explain how dissimilar metals react in neg ways bla bla bla.......... So yes, tho I like your description better, I have learned to identify it by GC so he doesn't correct me. LOL I have forgotten more shit about cars than he knows, but lately I think he is catching up.Oh well, I like you channel better than that shit! Great stuff Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is there anything you like about Ric basses?
I had a broken strings on my new Precision Deluxe V, every week or two. It was a nightmare until I sold it.
Dave, I just subscribed
The solution to the Ric bridge is a Hip Shot bridge. That's all you need to do. Throw the old one away or sell it to some dope on eBay for $250. If you want to watch my vids on the Hip Shot replacement bridge. Love ya Dave.
Oh and by the way I broke a Big E string on my Fender precision bass only one time. It was a rotosound brand new and it broke at the tuning peg.
I broke my E on a Fender Jazz. Lesson learned: don't use taperwounds if you play hard.
Hipshot has a fantastic replacement bridge. And I believe Babicz has one coming out that is supposed to be as good as their other replacement bridges.
Great T Shirt
Best channel on youtube
lmfao another "stickinyourbacker" video!!! i love ric's but i love daves rants lol!!!
I like that jack plate because it is perfect for an XLR out instead of lugging around a DI. Does anyone sell a kit like that? Maybe Radial.
Notice he didn't do any test playing at the end? That's how much he hates these things I guess LOL
The chrome surround piece for the bridge pickup is useful (at least for me) when playing with a pick. It helps avoid contact with the pickup -- and that damned clicking sound. I have no idea what it was actually designed for.
Happy Thanksgiving day Dave!Im surprised you didn't have a black turkey repair,Cheers,LOL.
Happy Halloween Peace out.
great job sir....
what kind of capacitor is used in the 4003?
i plan to make a mapleglo 4003
I dont know much about Rickenbacker basses, is this a Gooch 4001 or modern POS 4001?
I hope you did not void the warranty by putting on non-rickenbacher strings.
The bottom jack is mono, the top jack is Rick-O-Sound.
I would say that this is exactly the same bass as mine. I looked up my serial number on Rickenbacker site and showed as 1979. What year is this bass?
I am a P.Bass Player. However : I always loved the sound Bruce Foxton got in early Jam with his Rick. When he moved to P.Bass something was lost. When I am rich, I will buy a Rick........I am 58.
You can do it Dave!