Escaping Terrifying Cult Where Siblings Do THIS With Each Other
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- Incest cults exist, and Amanda was RAISED in one. She told me all her crazy experiences about marriage and relationships between family members, all by GOD’S CALLING. Traumas and recovery came afterwards, but there will always be a part of her life that she lost. #cultsurvivor #incestcult #cults
You will have seen Amanda on my friend Shelise Ann Sola's channel @CultstoConsciousness - check it out - where they have done many series about polygamy cults and Mormons, and escaping 'the order' incestuous polygamy cult (including a recent episode with Shanell Snow Derieux). She features unaired details about first cousins at 18 years old.
Amanda’s links:
/ @amandalovesrachel
holdingouthelp.org
Andrew Gold links:
/ andrewgold1
/ andrewgold_ok
/ andrewgold_ok
andrewgold.locals.com
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Chapters:
00:00 Growing up in INCEST
04:59 You'd see THIS if you went to incest city
06:35 Brainwashing led to BIRTH DEFECTS
11:29 Her HUGE family
13:27 Going to school as a cult member
16:25 Polygamy way more COMMON than you think
21:38 Dad forced me to marry my cousin
26:20 They better not do THIS around their father
29:48 WEALTHY lives
33:38 THIS MANY siblings
34:53 1930's cult BOOM
37:53 The breakthrough
41:20 Are cult babies going to save us?
42:37 Heavy CONSEQUENCES
47:58 Telling mom about leaving
51:31 Life after the Cult
55:25 Dating outside cult
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Edited by: Gonzalo Kaplanski - Zábava
Have you heard of the Kingston cult aka The Order? Amanda is just THE BEST, so please sub to her channel, and like and share this video so it spreads!
I absolutely love Amanda. I discovered her watching Escaping Polygamy in the states, and I'm now a member of her patreon. She is so wonderful, and she's open and honest about the horrors happening in her previous cult, The Order/the Kingston Clan. Andrew, you're one of my two favorite interviewers on CZcams and I absolutely cannot wait to hear what questions you have for the brilliant Amanda!
Now where tf is that Kyle Grant??
THANK YOU for bringing Amanda onto your channel!
@@mikeydflyingtoaster Ummm...MULTIPLE members of her cult have been imprisoned for a whole host of things, including r@ping underage girls. She's talking about her experiences and true stories from it.
Mormon fundamentalist denomination
Will do. I think you have introduced me to many of my favorite people on YT. So thank you.
One of my favorite anti-cult queens, love the crossover! 👸🏼👏
This glorified family trafficking ring needs all the exposure it can get.
It’s CRAZY how people take ancient spiritual teachings about life (like the Bible, Yoga, Hindu, Egyptian, Mayan, Sacred Geometry, etc) and turn them into the physical, & twist them to fit their narcissistic needs.
What’s your theory on our existence and fate?
I’ve been following Amanda Rae since Escaping Polygamy and I adore her. She is a wonderful advocate for women and children along with her other cousins who have left the Kingston Cult…. God bless her and her truth and her strength!
and how much about that is real when there is tv show and "season 3" about it?
@@agnes-juliemartin7030 I do think it was somewhat real with the help they were offering. There are several episodes where producers break the "4th wall" to protect and console those they are trying to help escape. I think the whole reason for the show; besides the cult porn which is a whole other matter; but I do think it was to raise awareness that groups like this are in operation right here in the United States and this continues to be a growing problem and concern when they claim "religious freedom/doctrine".
My father was raised Hasidism in Europe and them came here , when I was becoming a young adult he had me tested for Tasacs disease and I came up positive and he made me promise I would never marry another Jew. So I married an Irish Catholic and had a beautiful son. But my point is that, this isn’t a polygamy problem, it’s a fanatical religious problem. All fanatics inbreed
I love that he protected you and your future family. ❤️
This group is an example of power , control , and pur evil .
>"Tay-Sachs disease"
@@kassandra.Ramos95 I was blessed with him, and am great full that my son acts just like him. So kind
@@a2Flisa I don’t know how to spell it, the idea of it is so profoundly paralyzing
This was an amazing chat. At one point you were talking about couples who wait too long having kids and the movie Idiocracy came to mind. It's like it was a documentary about the future at this stage. I'm a woman of 48 who decided not to have kids. It just wasn't for me. Having kids in a world like this? Where we're at the mercy of corporations and corrupt politicians. Religion is allowed to run rampant in some countries harming untold millions of people. Wars perpetuated on people incapable of defending themselves. I just couldn't justify bringing a child in to a world that's going to be worse for them, than it was for me. And it already isn't as good a life as my parents had. Capitalism and religion are the destroyers of worlds.
This comment really spoke to me. I'm 26 and I feel like I won't be able to birth a new human into this world and feel like that's right or fair on them. I've contemplated adoption in the future because at least that child is already here and just needs someone to love and guide them.
I was a huge fan of Escaping Polygamy - Amanda and the other women are so amazing. They are so strong and it does break my heart a little to know that they were participating in that show while still reeling from their traumatic past and escape. If anyone hasn't seen Escaping Polygamy - please look for it because you see how incredible and selfless these women (I would have called them young girls in the show) are. They education and support they provide to each other, while still dealing with their own struggles - it just shows you the strength and depth of their character. It should be available to stream for free under some platforms. This group (The Order) is just, there are no words for what they do to their members, especially the women and children. I'm sorry to hear that her mum went back to the group. I hope one day she is able to free herself to get a chance at a life without the invisible chains attached.
Amanda is such an interesting and articulate guest with a remarkable story. It's sad that cults have such a devastating impact on children.
I love this guest. She is so natural!
She's great! She really speaks out
What a well spoken lady. Great interview.
I’m really loving the interaction between this fun as heck (and well spoken at that!!) ex Utah girl, and a British atheist Jewish heritage journalist😂😂
Welfare checks for 63 kids? These guys with 18 wives, handing over those checks, use cloth diapers, grow ur own food and breastfeed the babies, those checks add up, and all the boys over 12 working manual labour 120 hours a week, get minimum wage if lucky, it all goes to dad. He's pulling 6 figures not even getting out of bed.
How in the world did a few malignant narcissists set up something like this where they make the rules to satisfy their own desires. And where are the women that enabled them? Maybe that’s why they don’t rebel, it’s not in their DNA to think for themselves. What a racket? This is not love - It’s slavery.
Same goes for Mormons how do they justify following a crazy conman who made up the Book of Mormon and it’s more important to them than the Bible. They use guilt, manipulation, and abuse and most of all - God and His Word for their own wants and desires. Even Mormons give false promises about being giving gifts from God that are magic. All the people and women especially can’t trust their own mind without going to the bishops and elders for their guidance. They don’t know as much as you do about yourself, but they are told they can’t make the right choices on their own.
This is sad. I’m a Christian and I wish these people knew a loving God and not a selfish, jealous one that is used to control them. His Grace is free if you believe in Jesus Christ. It’s as if you are being charged $1000/day for air you breath.
These cults are all so misogynistic. The US needs to enforce the laws regarding polygamy, instead of letting practitioners be reality stars!! Terrible. So many excuses for bad behavior. It appears that money is the real prophet for the LDS.
Mad respect for Amanda Rae and her work to educate and "out" The Order to the rest of the world. #andrewgold #amandarae
Love Amanda Rea and she and her ex member friends and family are making true changes. It takes a village. I love seeing the mom respect they all seem to have. I’m sorry for what they have all been through but I’m glad this content by you Andrew and Amanda produce to help those out there. They aren’t alone and they can get help.
My sister and I would love to come on and share our stories if you’ll have us. Spent the first 11 years of my life being sexually abused by our brothers and other people. addict parents, physically, and emotionally abused. a lot of other messed up circumstances . I think it’d help people tho.
Fantastic strength, you girls surely had, to survive it all and come out strong. 💪
If I understand well, Andrew's show is about official ideologies, and organizations, cults, religions, secret societies, and such.
Even if your story is beyond doubt fascinating and would offer a lot to help educate people, perhaps he wouldn't interview people who were not in a cult/religious organization.
I'm just saying perhaps.
Good luck to you and your sister in all your future efforts in life 🍀
I am so sorry you and your sister endured such horrible things...
I pray you are both doing well now...
I hope that you can tell your story, I think you could definitely help others ...
You can tell your story make a video
On your own, post it we would love to hear your life experiences, could touch many & help you to know you are making headway in this cause. I am an alcoholic with 12yrs. Sober. You will reach those that most need to hear it.😊😔
@@terriannbrookhyser4634 Yeah, that's a good idea. Give us the link here when you post it, we'll watch it and write comments to get it started.
Great show Andrew. Amanda seems like such a courageous woman. I had tears in my eyes when she talked about those who helped her get her bearings after leaving!
OMG I love Amanda she is awesome so glad you are getting to hear her story it's crazy crazy
Infertility is the perfect consequence for such outrageous inbreeding. Poetic Justice.
What a weird thing to say. The child has no choice in who its parents are.
I love Amanda even though I've never met her she seems family now, I can watch/listen to her all the time, I really think she should do an autobiography book I think a lot of people would buy it 😊❤
The courtship and marriage rules Amanda spoke about echo the IBLP so closely! Thank you Andrew for covering these topics. I appreciate your interview style, asking pertinent and insightful questions, but never overtalking or rudely interrupting the guest. Keep up your excellent coverage in exposing these horrible cults.
Incredibly insightful. Touches on so many relevant points. It demonstrates how courageous one has to be with your own self-belief.
I just want to say that my husband and I only got married after 43 years when he was dying and only had a month to live and it made a big difference, more than I ever thought possibly but that could be because I now feel, having his surname, I have and am a part of him. I had my children at 19 and 24 but didn’t want to get married bc I witnessed my parents marriage which was a disaster. My son has been with his partner for 25 years and is unmarried. He never wanted children and I supported his decision and when his partner got pregnant unexpectedly he wasn’t happy but is now a besotted dad. Everyone is different and imo I think it’s up to the individual to do what they feel is best and if that’s getting married young or old or having/not having children it’s their choice.
This was an amazing interview. Thank you both ❤
Amanda, you've had quite the journey. I hope your journey from here on out is more positive, and beautiful. You've been through so much already! Good luck and hopefully when you do marry, it will be wonderful.
A little off topic but talking about having kids - I didn’t get married until I was 33. Got pregnant at 34. Still terrified of becoming a mom at that age. Haha. But anyway tried a few years later tried to have another child and I was too old. No one tells you this. I mean your fertility drops from age 25 (women) and at 35 it dives off a cliff. At 40 I adopted our daughter. Now if you don’t wanna have kids don’t have kids. But I was someone who never knew if I wanted kids. And it was the best thing I ever did. For me it was everything. The most important thing I ever did. Not my career (teaching). Best years of my life. But it’s not for everyone. I don’t know how old your fiancé is but if she’s your age she doesn’t have much time. ❤️ my son is now 23 living in Texas and working in aeronautics. My daughter is 18 and beginning her hair stylist career. They are everything to me.
I have so much respect for you all that can share your very personal experiences and also respect how much you have gone through. Thank you for sharing your story
I love Amanda. Great guest!
16:09 "he's related to HIMSELF on both sides"
(dying 😂)
There was a TV show titled “Leaving Polygamy” about girls being smuggled out for various reasons. Being forced to married to the Leader being one.
Pretty sure Amanda Rae was part of that show
Excellent interview. Thanks for sharing..... from the Ozarks
It's about time you've got Amanda Rae! She's pretty awesome.
The father of one of my friends worked for the USFS and the family was stationed in a small, isolated Arizona and Utah towns. These towns are associated with polygamous sects and /or small, isolated LDS communities. In the mid 60s, when she and her sisters were in high school, her parents transferred back east in to make sure the girls did not marry into one of the families that (forgive me, this is a direct quote from her mom) "had to hide a 12 toed kid in the closet" due to inbreeding.
They aren’t lds. They’re flds. They’re a break off group and aren’t affiliated with the lds church in any way.
I loved this interview thanks Andrew 👏. Amanda is such a lovely woman & amazing that she helped others escape too 🫡👊.
The half sibling marriages are so creepy. One outside reference is Chris Cooper and Elizabeth Peña in the movie Lonestar. They didn’t know they were related which was the big twist at the end, but they decided to give it a go anyway.
really enjoyed this podcast. it's so funny when andrew tries to speak with an american accent. it always makes me chuckle😆
Amanda Rea is awesome. Can’t wait to watch this
I taught at a school in Victoria, Australia that seemed to have a lot of that stuff going on. I am a teacher, this group had to source teachers from “the world” because the women from the church were not permitted to have education beyond year 12. They also had to take subjects like cooking and sewing… They would rip out pages of books in their library, like the statue of David (because of the penis), and anything on Charles Darwin…they all had a distinctive accent because they were only socialising with one another…I found it really strange…
I love Amanda Rae. Lately different people I watch are collabing.. I was waiting for this colllab.💖💖💖
I'm only 5 minutes in and I can't stop looking at her eyes they're so HUGE & pretty.
She's stunning 🥰
Lots of her girl cousins and siblings have similar eyes 😊
She is one of the prettiest people i've ever seen, but I found it inappropriate to write here🙈
She’s beautiful and absolutely hilarious. You’ve got to watch a few of her videos and enjoy her humor too.
She has beautiful Doe Eyes. Wide and bright.
Eascaping polygamy was a great show i have wonder if they are still trying to free people from that group
Utah has laws about incest but they don't enforce them. I wouldn't be surprised to see the enforcement of the laws change in the future given the child abuse that is becoming public and the Child Protective Services not doing anything. In the state of Utah, the punishment for incest (which is defined as a third-degree felony offense), specifies a term of 5 years maximum in prison and/or a maximum fine of $5,000. Other penalties may also be enforced if convicted of incest. In Utah incest is classified as a criminal offense and defined under the code as any sexual relationship between immediate family members and first cousins. The code also enumerates artificial insemination between immediate family members and first cousins as a chargeable offense under the same section.
There was a change in the law that said that anyone who intentionally participated in incest were responsible for the cost of their offspring’s medical costs.
The law means nothing and is only enforced on ovvasion.Wecas a nation are sexualizing our children teaching and abusing b them in ,schools,hospitals,and brainwashing.. DCF has children missing all overvthe nation and has needed to be drastically revamped for decades. I understand that they are the same way in the UK when it comes to children
Abuse of children is not a priority unless it becomes a major news story,even then it depends how much it is pushed.
😢even Mother Nature knows incest is wrong...most animals born of incest dies at birth or early or self aborts...this is sick😢😮😢😮
still watching in spite of the silly clickbait titles!
Thank God for these organizations like Holding Out Help that help people escape these cults that exploit children for free labor and sex.
Thank you, again, for a splendid educational conversation. Cheers from Montreal.
hey mate. what a together and intelligent woman is Amanda! i will be looking up her channel. what an intelligent self-awareness this woman has. why are all these cults, generally, based on toxic patriarchal interpretations of a book of contradictions? The more i learn from your channel the more i feel that religious is just a big scam for money and power and control. onya, keep on keeping on mate. gi.
Why does the state not intervene?
Exactly!
The group has a lot of money and power
here from Amandas channel! love her so much, she's the best. so open and honest with how she feels about things and also with sharing her story and helping people understand (while still maintaining a great sense of humor).
This the reason why I am so happy with the invention of CZcams AND the comment area under the videos ... Right now, I'm watching Cults To Consciousness as well Ithe brother and the sister that talk about their experiences withing the Order. Twelve years ago, I had no clue that this happened on a regular base, but I felt that something major was shifting in the World and started to create a frame that would give us the opportunity to see things in their authentic form. That became the framework of ka-ba-la as I've got downloaded when I was on the edge of dying (and take that literally).
ka = female & spiritual, the Teacher, Source
ba = male & material, the Master, God
la = body & nobody, the Pupil, Ego
Thatś a theoretical frame that offers enough elements to see what is missing in your initial theory and I have enough knowledge about the big waves to tell that Source is making her reappearance (after thousands of years ba-dictatorship. It's obvious that I had to see the bigger picture and had to be able to 'hear' the echoes of the past => Source is making her rere-entry with repeating processes we know from the past and we have to learn to see the same in a different form.
Narcissism is another important subject. There is primal and secondary narcissism because the behaviour only makes sense in the ba (and not in the ka). You always have to ask who is really benefitting and that often has a hierarchical structure (so it takes time to climb the stairs). The social structure becomes much more complicated, but the primal narcissist will use the circumstances for his own benefit and even the phrase Divide And Conquer is based on the narcissistic principle.
Source can be the organism, if you want - we're all autonomous cells of the oldest organism on earth and that organism has become immortal and rejuvenating because of the system of birth and death. We will NEVER be immortal as an individual and when we die, we're letting go everything that connected us to that one body and one life we were conscious about. Ther is NO afterlife, but during the process of letting go, the idea helps us to accept the necessity of ending something that isn't functional anymore and that's why I got those important downloads when I faced my own death. The only thing I could ask for was delaying the final pass over (none of my ideas get lost, I have shared them during my deep sleep, I only wanted to bring everything in order so the wrong people would not have a free gift) and now, my time is completely used up.
This was a once, but never again coincidence that could give us a new perspective and the group of people that understands this grows at the day, but it didn't come easy. The only thing that keeps me going on is knowing that everything happens for a reason, but nothing happens twice for the same reason. Knowledge is only real when shared and those people who reject every form of real knowledge are digging their own grave. God, Source, and ego are equal forces that create a necessary process to grow out of your rehearsed misconceptions, but it takes more that one generation to see what exactly is changing in your favor and the ba-narcissists know how easy it is to punish the dropouts. I feel the current acceleration and know for sure that I am the ONE Expected (Out of many, only one), although I am not the Chosen One. Both Source and God use me as their channel and I (as a normal individual) can spread it because of my telepathic ability to CONNECT during my deep sleep. You can't stop what you've set in motion already, but this is not the worst of what has happened to us and we've survived worse situations that happened to us (and not because of us). Most of the work had to be my individual contribution to the whole, but I'm a collector of projects that can take over my job. We're social creatures, but there are rotten specimen that infect the whole harvest and that is slowing down the process.
In other words, don't listen to the preachers and follow your own intuition. Help if you are able to help and keep low profile when the circumstances are not favorable. I had no experience with the items I had to work out myself and had no time to follow the usual path, but I am quite impressed with my learning abilities - we all can learn tomorrow what we can't do or understand today and that's the reason why we should respect the work of others and work on our inate jealousy and envy.
Great video. Amanda is AMAZING!!!! Great interview Andrew!
My mother invited morman guys into our home, this was early1970's, we actually watched a movie that seemed to explain their beliefs, but never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined anything as disturbing as this!!
The official Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (often referred to as Mormons) does not practice polygamy. In fact if you did practice polygamy, you would be excommunicated. These people she is referring to are a break off. When the official church stopped practicing polygamy, some people still wanted to continue the practice. The “Fundamentalist” Mormon church (various independent groups), think the official church shouldn’t have stopped doing it so started their own religions.
I had kids when I was 20yo and 22yo. Those kids are now 23y and 21y and I could not imagine them having children at this age. It shocks me that my husband and I 1) kept them alive & 2) were able to raise amazing, kind, and downright brilliant children. My oldest has never wanted children their entire life and my youngest does not like children and never plans to have them either, and I’m super cool with that. A little over a month ago, we officially became empty nesters (we had only lived together 10 days before our first was born). It’s so quiet & peaceful, we are really enjoying it.
I lived in Utah for eight years. I was working at a restaurant, and my manager at the time had 32 siblings!!
Andrew have you seen the story of two men who met online, talked for years before they met. They met and fell in love …. They then discovered that they where related ( brothers )
They where absolutely devastated. It was very very sad and messed up.
Fascinating Andrew . Amanda is just lovely . Thank you .
I just now subbed to Amanda’s channel.
So all the channels I watch are getting together, thank God they're not related 😆 Amanda, DUI + guy etc. Im loving it ❤ Great interview, Amanda is a sweetheart 💋
Wow these religious cults are completely messed up
Everyday I learn about a new cult.
Loooove Amanda Rae - I’m so glad you had her on your channel! ♥️
I’ve also found that some people pressure women to have children because it seems that there are more and more fertility problems these days. It kind of seems that infertility and narcissism are contagious now. My parents were 19 and 21 when I was born, and we ALL suffered for 20 years until they got divorced. Lol, but not really. I’m unmarried and have no children because of the trauma.
I cant wait for this video Andrew!
Also though - who is that in the thumbnail? Amanda looking DIFFERENT with all that photoshop 🤣
Jokes aside, I think you are both amazing and intelligent creators with important things to say, very excited to watch this one ❤
It's a stupid AI program that goes completely over the top! But I don't know one that is just normal and makes the photo less blurry etc. Oh well, hope she doesn't mind!
@AndrewGold1 it's supermodel-ised her! She's a stunner anyway so I'm sure Amanda won't mind. Excuse me while I go and find an AI program to touch up my profile pic... 🤣
Thanks again Andrew, love your stuff man.
enjoy: www.aiseesoft.com/image-upscaler/ (they don't pay me or anything like that...it's just a site I found, so I can put low-res photos in)@@AmyBumble
A woman is not meant to have 20 children. In the tv show 19 kids and counting, Jim Bob's wife had to deliver early because the pregnancy was causing her health problems and her last child was stillborn. That's a sign from God and Mother Nature, her body can't handle more pregnancies. Bob Jim should not be so selfish; 19 children is too many.
Nothing to do with “god” (which is the EXACTLY the pretext used to perpetuate such misogyny and commodification & exploitation of girls’ & women’s reproductive systems) and everything to do with biological systems/processes controlled by deranged zealots.
First live ever and I can't wait I've been following her since escaping Polygamy first aired .
Amanda is such a wonderful person. I’d love to be her friend.
Royal blood - ALWAYS a BAD sign - ALWAYS!!! Bloodline obsession = evil! This woman is EXCELLENT! She got out of EVIL
Hello Andrew your video froze quite a number of times , there are quite a lot of Kingston girls who escaped the families, they are now helping others to leave the cult it’s quite nerve wrecking to watch 👍
I went through this with a different religion. I left 30 years ago and my family still will not talk to me. I am dead to them and it still hurts
This was a really fascinating episode
I know what you have been through and it is bloody tough. My parents were Plymouth Brethren. We were not allowed to go to dances, pictures, have hair cut, go out and play, go to sport events, listen to pop music and so much more. Everything was around church and fear. Go live your life❤
My parents were not in a cult, but were ultra religious and we children could not wear shorts, go to movies, drink coke from a can (? Probably because someone might think it’s beer.) Never learned to swim because we couldn’t wear swimsuits. Because I was a teenager during the 50s, I wanted to do what my friends were doing…dancing and sock hops and movies, so I was called worldly, which I associated as sinful. I’m In my 80s now and it took many years for me to feel I was a good person and not sinful.
I’ve been watching Andrew for a year, and Amanda for 2.5!! The collision of 2 worlds❤️ love when this happens. I about lost it due to excitement!!(Actually Andrew interviews a few CZcamsrs I know well since he’s all over the map and it makes me ecstatic!!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻) 😂
Curious to know if there are any religions / cults where women get to the call the shots.....
The term "worldly people" is common for most Christian based cults actually.
My heart goes out to this young woman!! Im so glad she was able to break free!! 💛💛💕💕
It’s abuse on all levels
It's like that to leave the jehovah's witnesses. You are literally dead to them, friends and family. I really feel for Amanda.
Fascinating video, Andrew. It's amazing how this lovely lady escaped from this incestuous nightmare in one piece. Surely the fact that they're breeding mutant children must show that incest is wrong.
Found you because I follow Amanda! Thank you for sharing her story! I am now subscribing to yours as well 😊
Isn't this child abuse?
Child abuse - that is said to softly..
Amazing exposure
Is the Sun hot?!
When brought to court, they claim religious persecution. The authorities/states have no idea how to handle polygamy even when it's illegal, because when they take the parents away, the social systems get completely inundated with their dozens of kids. It's awful.
In certain states, it’s defended by religion, which is ridiculous, because these people are nothing near spiritual, our govt doesn’t know the difference between spirituality (inner self, how life works and is connected, interdependent universe) and religion.
My friend helped sponsor a bill to put expolygamists on the victims fund.. like a person trafficked, or abuse of any kind. And our now lieutenant governor passed a bill to decriminalize polygamy from a felony, to a misdemeanor. Changing the State Constitution, and only qualifications to be allowed Statehood. Utah could not join the union until the 'formally renouncing' the polygamy practice. Utah has allowed this problem to exist, by not protecting citizens and not prosecuting it. State abuse, not just child abuse.
I am fascinated by the ex - Mormons who have started Magic Mushroom Churches and L§D... pretty please, id love to learn more. I went to Utah 30 years ago can't believe this development...
People in these cults are not ex-Mormons, unless they once belonged to the official Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Any off-shoots, such as this cult and the FLDS, are not members of the official LDS Church, and they would never be permitted to remain a member if they were living this kind of life.
@@swb1439 Of course, it isn’t stamped on their head so it is possible to be both.
This is child abuse! It’s hard to understand this is acceptable and still happening in 2023!
Greetings and good wishes from South Africa 🇿🇦❤
Religious freedom in America includes the Mormons. This is why there’s a separation between church and state here in the U.S.
I just love Amanda Ray🥰
Very interesting interview and guest!!! Way to go girl!!!
All so they can control young women. Leave the girls alone!
What an amazing life! You are not only beautiful, but also articulate and very well rounded. Very interesting conversation!
Greetings from Zimbabwe 🇿🇼
Thank you Amanda. You are a strong woman and beautiful too. God bless you, I mean the real God the creator 🙏🏾
Catching up from Perth Western Australia 🇦🇺
I watched a doc re tradition of Pakastanis that more than 3/4 of the pop marry their first cousins. Yes, there were lots of birth defects. This video doc was reported by a Pakastani female. Many have moved to England, and the UK is paying for the medical services for these children. Very interesting.
The Westermarck effect- (1891, 1921) postulated that physical proximity was a kinship cue used to regulate incest avoidance in sibling relationships. Siblings who have close physical proximity during childhood are expected to experience sexual indifference toward one another.May 26, 2019
I watch andrews channel and Aaron who delved into Scientology. Cults are evil. And there’s evil things going on in Christian churches. But God is good. I’ve never found a church that I thought followed Gods teaching. I went from ultra conservative to ultra liberal. They were both twisting Gods words to control the parish. So I read the Bible and hang with fellow true believers. Jesus has never forsaken me. But churches have.
With so many spouses, and so many people breeding together, I guess it was just a matter of time before they were running out of completely unrelated partners to choose from.
Didn't see this until now. I've been following Amanda for about 3 years now
Freaking LOVE Amanda!
Love her, lots of comedy with the tragedy
You made a great point about newer generations not having kids or as many. I have 7, 5 biological & 2 step kids. Three are triplets so that is the only reason I had 7. He had 2 & I had 2 & he wanted one together but actually had 3. To the point, only 3 of them have or want kids & they each only have 1 child.
I saw on a documentary somewhere that we are attracted to people "like us", and there are cases of people falling in love and finding out later they're related because of that.
There was a case (I think it was Germany) years ago where two siblings were placed in separate foster homes. They reconnected years later and fell in love and had a lot of kids. They kept having kids. I can't remember if the kids had birth deflects and that's how the government found out, but the government arrested them and said stop having kids together. They refused again and again. There 's a theory that in cases like that, you're attracted to the other person because you see yourself in them because you look similar. I remember reading about it and being totally baffled.
I’ve watched and admired Amanda for a while. Her channel is vey interesting. 😊