this could stop stick drift, so why don't they use them?

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  • čas přidán 30. 04. 2023
  • #xbox #playstation #nintendo #gaming #tinkermanmick #stickdrift #controller #ps5 #xboxseriesx #xboxseriess #sega
    I stand to be corrected here, but from my understanding and research, there is an easy solution to stick drift and it would be great to know why ‪@xbox‬ ‪@PlayStation‬ and ‪@NintendoAmerica‬ don't use the hall effect sensor in their controllers instead of the analog joysticks - that are prone to stick drift?
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  • @andrewlodge8065
    @andrewlodge8065 Před rokem +11921

    Two words...planned obsolescence

    • @warfin1379
      @warfin1379 Před rokem +228

      no its because its more expensive and they are greedy

    • @ryanabarca8616
      @ryanabarca8616 Před rokem +575

      ​@@warfin1379lol chances are you probably don't know what he meant by that or you wouldn't have disagreed. It can be both

    • @warfin1379
      @warfin1379 Před rokem +60

      @@ryanabarca8616 oh yeah ik what hes saying now i was prob reslly tired and maby was joking idk lol

    • @LaZarusXtnct
      @LaZarusXtnct Před rokem +39

      ​@@warfin1379 Or maybe newer controllers are made with better, more accurate parts. Which also means they break easier and quicker. I still have my N64 controllers from 1999. Theyre still in good condition. Theyre still shit compared to today's controllers.

    • @warfin1379
      @warfin1379 Před rokem +60

      @@LaZarusXtnct no the magnetic joysticks are mor accurate the n64 ones may not be but they make newer ones plus thats what dead zones are for the in sccuracy in the joystick

  • @kuwabaragriffin5429
    @kuwabaragriffin5429 Před rokem +5426

    "if the controller last too long we won't sell enough of them"

    • @Unvoicedlive
      @Unvoicedlive Před rokem +153

      Exactly what happened with light bulb companies

    • @nickelakon5369
      @nickelakon5369 Před rokem +75

      Used to be that everyone would buy at least 4 controllers, now most people buy two at most. Couch multiplayer sold controllers, modern game companies dont seem to understand that.

    • @xxlarrytfvwxx9531
      @xxlarrytfvwxx9531 Před rokem +4

      I'd be great business, I constantly lose my controllers! 😅

    • @firestargaming9521
      @firestargaming9521 Před rokem +23

      ​@@Unvoicedliveyup. If it weren't for corporate greed, we would be using lightbulbs that could last years without burning out. But then again how would the lightbulb companies make money? After all, money is the most important thing to these people, far surpassing that of human welfare.

    • @sweetmeatnc1504
      @sweetmeatnc1504 Před rokem +2

      ​@@firestargaming9521well i mean if the company cant make money they wont exist, then where would you get your lightbulb from then?

  • @techkoba
    @techkoba Před 10 měsíci +1027

    How to be a business man
    Step 1: create a problem
    Step 2: solve it

    • @Corn_Man_
      @Corn_Man_ Před 7 měsíci +40

      Step 3: create a different problem for the solution so you can sell more solution

    • @WhyAreWeStilllHereJustToSuffer
      @WhyAreWeStilllHereJustToSuffer Před 6 měsíci +33

      1: Create a problem with your item
      2: Don’t solve it so the product breaks and they buy more
      3: Hide any evidence of a solution

    • @McChillinLikeAVillian
      @McChillinLikeAVillian Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@WhyAreWeStilllHereJustToSufferthe real answer lol

    • @BenFoilHat
      @BenFoilHat Před 5 měsíci

      The Hegelian dialectic. It’s what the elites implement to control the world.

    • @Fish_dll
      @Fish_dll Před 5 měsíci +6

      sounds like apple

  • @deldarel
    @deldarel Před 11 měsíci +360

    If u remember correctly, the patent expired recently. They have no excuse anymore.

    • @animecutscenes3414
      @animecutscenes3414 Před 7 měsíci +8

      the new gamesir g7 se has this feature

    • @stonerhino83
      @stonerhino83 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@animecutscenes3414 Yes, for the triggers. Unfortunately the analog sticks still use ALPS modules shown here.

    • @McChillinLikeAVillian
      @McChillinLikeAVillian Před 5 měsíci +10

      @@stonerhino83no the sticks too I’m pretty sure.

    • @noahdalentoft8076
      @noahdalentoft8076 Před 5 měsíci +10

      @@stonerhino83 The stick on the gamesir g7 have the hall effect sensor

    • @stonerhino83
      @stonerhino83 Před 5 měsíci

      @@noahdalentoft8076 It shows the specs at the bottom of the G7 page. It reads "Analog Joysticks: Yes, ALPS"

  • @emu4353
    @emu4353 Před 11 měsíci +1593

    "Why don't large companies provide quality products instead of products that break down with time so you buy more products?" The world may never know

    • @raptorix-gaming
      @raptorix-gaming Před 10 měsíci +40

      Easy! MONEY

    • @triggermesausage
      @triggermesausage Před 10 měsíci +11

      The world has known for ages ..... just like they outdate software on your old phone just like you used to update your Windows....if you only ever had to buy one of anything the world wouldn't make money ....just like my xbox one series s has got 10 times slower since I bought it and it's been cleaned out ... its almost now as slow as my one s last gen

    • @emu4353
      @emu4353 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@triggermesausage WOW. It's almost like you repeated my own comment to me.

    • @emu4353
      @emu4353 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @raptorix-gaming Gosh you're smart.

    • @dano2674
      @dano2674 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@emu4353its because companies want money but you probably didn't think of that did you dummy

  • @DeadOfficee
    @DeadOfficee Před 11 měsíci +1369

    That extra controller you give your friend when they come over

  • @tendysaputraa
    @tendysaputraa Před 11 měsíci +49

    "It's all about the money, money, money"

    • @tendysaputraa
      @tendysaputraa Před 11 měsíci +6

      You're old if you start to sing

    • @pootisarmy213
      @pootisarmy213 Před měsícem

      ​@@tendysaputraayou are talking to yourself??????????

    • @tendysaputraa
      @tendysaputraa Před měsícem +1

      @@pootisarmy213 Blud has no sense of humor

    • @pootisarmy213
      @pootisarmy213 Před měsícem

      @@tendysaputraa thank you

    • @LueLucifer
      @LueLucifer Před měsícem

      Good news, you're old & I'm not.
      Idk that song.
      I know the one from Michael Jackson.
      They don't care they do it for the money. Anything, anything, anything for money. I'd lie to you I'd die for you I'd kill for you. I'd do anything for money.

  • @YaBoyVansh
    @YaBoyVansh Před 6 měsíci +61

    hey! i actually did a bit of research and the reason companies stick to potentiometers is because they are DIRT CHEAP. they take only 1.25ish to produce which is why not many big companies use hall effect sensors

    • @mohammadosman1474
      @mohammadosman1474 Před měsícem +5

      That's not a logical reason, gullikit makes dirt cheap controllers with hall effect joysticks, even 8bitdo now. Its Sony and xbox's greed

    • @mohammadosman1474
      @mohammadosman1474 Před měsícem +3

      Hall effect joysticks aren't thst much expensive, why not just charge slightly higher to increase the life upto 2 to 3 years of a controller but that would only benefit the consumer and not manufacturer

    • @MrYevelnad
      @MrYevelnad Před 12 dny +1

      And the cost to produce hall effect is $2. And companies is like "We can save $0.75 and sell more because they will be broken in no time, why not?" Two birds in one stone.

  • @GetWiththeProgramGaming
    @GetWiththeProgramGaming Před rokem +1880

    The PS2 controller actually has tech in it that recalibrates it's dead zone every time your do a couple 360 turns of the joystick

    • @hahano9586
      @hahano9586 Před rokem +102

      That's weird because I'm pretty sure I experienced stick drift with the ps2 controllers more than any others lol

    • @GetWiththeProgramGaming
      @GetWiththeProgramGaming Před rokem +66

      @@hahano9586 maybe it couldn't calibrate correctly

    • @Zack-bl2gg
      @Zack-bl2gg Před rokem +149

      Every controller has that, but it can only take so much. It’s a recalibration, not actually fixing it

    • @GetWiththeProgramGaming
      @GetWiththeProgramGaming Před 11 měsíci +30

      @@Zack-bl2gg that is true but it's crazy how it still works in some pretty old controllers for the ps2

    • @DeaseNootz
      @DeaseNootz Před 11 měsíci +7

      ​@@GetWiththeProgramGamingI mean.... If the controller works, why wouldn't it still work?

  • @alexaartist4664
    @alexaartist4664 Před 11 měsíci +190

    22 years later and Sega still does what Nintendon't

    • @servo1991
      @servo1991 Před 4 měsíci +7

      A 90s Homie I see 👀

  • @Zigfryed
    @Zigfryed Před 10 měsíci +5

    Welcome to the game. Planned obsolescence

  • @dylandossanchez4375
    @dylandossanchez4375 Před 10 měsíci +26

    "that one controller your friend gives you when you come over"

  • @Cybersomnia
    @Cybersomnia Před 11 měsíci +328

    SEGA being ahead of its time as always

    • @whome9842
      @whome9842 Před 10 měsíci

      They killed SEGA because SEGA was right!

    • @clebbington
      @clebbington Před 9 měsíci +13

      yes and no... the Dreamcast had hall effect sensors, that's what he's referring to. however, the Dreamcast didn't sell well - it was better than the PS1 but came out right before the PS2, so Sony completely ate their lunch. after that Sega dropped out of home console hardware for good

    • @Cybersomnia
      @Cybersomnia Před 9 měsíci +31

      @@clebbington I wouldn't really count sales as a reflection of the technology though...it had a lot of pretty damn cool ideas is what I'm getting at...addressing problems we have now back then is what I mean about ahead of its time

    • @skrawn1342
      @skrawn1342 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Yeah and SEGA are still making MASSIVE waves in the gaming community...smh

    • @clebbington
      @clebbington Před 9 měsíci +6

      @@Cybersomnia yeah that makes sense - it's a cool console and there's a reason people still love it, including myself. i keep a copy of shenmue on display in my kitchen >:--)

  • @maximman102n7
    @maximman102n7 Před rokem +513

    I like how stick drift wasn't a big issue until a few years ago

    • @JessicaFEREM
      @JessicaFEREM Před rokem +75

      it was always a big issue. console makers just made it very hard to tell, and games require more precision than they do now.
      the PS1 dual analog had this issue too but the games weren't very accurate to begin with, and the auto-calibration would just result in the controllers getting more "slop" meaning the deadzone would keep getting bigger until it was unusable.

    • @michaelmiguelicutti2829
      @michaelmiguelicutti2829 Před 11 měsíci +68

      @@JessicaFEREM no it wasn't, your claims are complete and utter nonsense. In my 30 years of gaming I've never had stick drift on ANY controller until I bought an Xbox series s last year. This has never been an issue in the history of gaming and to claim otherwise makes you a liar.

    • @JessicaFEREM
      @JessicaFEREM Před 11 měsíci +33

      @@michaelmiguelicutti2829 the controllers haven't changed since the original dualshock. And I have friends that have tons of consoles and play them for thousands of hours and can back me up on this.

    • @JessicaFEREM
      @JessicaFEREM Před 11 měsíci +28

      The only possible thing that could've changed in 30 years of the analog stick is software. Other than notable exceptions like the N64 and Sega thumbsticks, every other thumbstick is based off of the same technology of a piece of metal running over a resistance strip known as a Potentiometer.
      Have you ever turned a volume knob that makes scratchy noises after a while? That's the same thing that's happening inside a drifting controller's sticks.

    • @FuncleChuck
      @FuncleChuck Před 10 měsíci

      Max you’re wrong and dumb. I had drift on an analog joystick in the 90s.

  • @mysteryguy7716
    @mysteryguy7716 Před 10 měsíci +6

    This isnt the part that causes stick drift it is the resistive materiale that gets scraped away on the other side of the potentiometer.

  • @StuartR.
    @StuartR. Před 10 měsíci +8

    POV: the extra controller your friend hands you

    • @StuartR.
      @StuartR. Před 4 měsíci +1

      Here's youtube recycling content over 6 months

  • @TinkerManMick
    @TinkerManMick  Před rokem +532

    Please subscribe if you find my videos helpful!

    • @jojobrojoe593
      @jojobrojoe593 Před rokem +2

      I wonder if it could effect people like me who has a ICD they can't be around strong magnets i know things like the Elite series controllers doesn't effect it

    • @leszz
      @leszz Před rokem +3

      Is it possible to send in the controller and have it be changed to the better one?

    • @bolt3360
      @bolt3360 Před rokem +1

      quick question, where do you buy gulikit sticks?

    • @hanslefour20
      @hanslefour20 Před rokem

      .. the reason is simple... they got big noises wear little hats and celebrate honaka

    • @the_mancavewithjacob
      @the_mancavewithjacob Před rokem

      Okay, electrical engineer 💀💀💀😫😫😫

  • @hyakin7818
    @hyakin7818 Před rokem +276

    Nintendo used optical sensors for the n64 but it's pretty useless bc the stick itself wares itself of pretty quick

    • @shostako1284
      @shostako1284 Před 10 měsíci +3

      mmm... maybe... but never had a drift.

    • @satoruriolu6132
      @satoruriolu6132 Před 10 měsíci +2

      It was also one of the first commercial joysticks, so much so the ps1 didn't even have them for a while

    • @Drazil100
      @Drazil100 Před 10 měsíci +10

      Honestly the N64 joystick if replaced with sturdier metal parts, is actually one of the best joysticks to ever exist. The level of precision of their sticks is unmatched. Shame they wear down in a couple weeks of use.

    • @shostako1284
      @shostako1284 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@Drazil100 it is. It was just amazing. The problem is the plastic parts. Specially the bowl under the stick. It erodes bad. A metallic bowl surely would help a lot.

    • @pratikpramanik7782
      @pratikpramanik7782 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Surprisingly Interact had a controller with metal parts for the joystick and they have outlasted most 1st party controllers… less accurate out of the box unfortunately

  • @Taxidermied_Ratt
    @Taxidermied_Ratt Před 5 měsíci +1

    I like to imagine they did it because they knew the pieces broke fast and people would have to buy more controllers.

  • @datbrokeboi7440
    @datbrokeboi7440 Před měsícem

    the part you showed is the sweeper, it can get stuff gunked in it but its usually the graphite from the track pads that are on the actual potentiometers which are the green part you opened, usually theres some missing from the track when drift happens, sometimes its the spring in the stick that breaks too

  • @mr.fish_in_a_bottlehernand2817
    @mr.fish_in_a_bottlehernand2817 Před 11 měsíci +26

    “It has a tendency to get dirty and damaged” *JABS IT OUT WITH A FLATHEAD SCREWDRIVER*

    • @nicknick_nick
      @nicknick_nick Před 5 měsíci +1

      😑

    • @sameeahmad6592
      @sameeahmad6592 Před 5 měsíci +1

      He isn’t gonna use it anyway

    • @Geegs
      @Geegs Před 5 měsíci +3

      That honestly doesn't do as much damage as it may seem.

    • @mrswishy3964
      @mrswishy3964 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I promise you it didn't do as much damage as you think it did, I take apart my remotes down to the circuits on a regular and for some of those parts unfortunately they require that much force to be removed.

  • @AdmitThatYoureInsane
    @AdmitThatYoureInsane Před rokem +878

    It has a patent that can't be used without paying the creators a huge sum of money

    • @Kevin89866
      @Kevin89866 Před rokem +196

      Apparently 3rd party controllers 8bitdo, gullikit, and gamesir selling the $80au controllers for PC and Nintendo are going broke then... because a $250au xbox elite s2 can't afford to include $3au retail price sticks... 🤣

    • @fffmpeg
      @fffmpeg Před rokem +9

      how do i have it for cheap cheap

    • @Kevin89866
      @Kevin89866 Před rokem +8

      @@fffmpeg on pc? Just get the $80 controllers. On console you likely would need to have a cronus zen to get hall effect sticks to work on a console as I am aware they can make PS controllers work on xbox and the other way around. But the price to do that on console is like $100 for a second hand cronus which is being banned on multiple games now so you would be limited to playing unsupported games or ea games atm. So pointless really and soldering in hall effect sticks doesn't work as they need additional circuitry which needs additional room of which there is none in a controllers body. Unless maybe somehow gulikit allows the circuit board to be placed where the rumble motors are and you remove the motors? Most competitive players who would go to these lengths don't use vibration anyway so would be viable.

    • @Verchiel_
      @Verchiel_ Před rokem +18

      As said before several other companies made their own hall effect sensors. Gulikit does have their own patented sensors but there's some way around it.
      Gamesir released the Khaleid controller most recently. 40 bucks, couple back buttons, hall effect joysticks and an interesting see through shell with RGB strips design, which may or may not be too flashy for some.

    • @satibel
      @satibel Před rokem +16

      @@___meph___4547 there's EP2204719B1 (EU only) and US20220413542A1 (pending in the EU) related to hall effect joysticks.

  • @ThisIsCasioman
    @ThisIsCasioman Před 9 měsíci

    If a single glass of lemonade was never ending, they would find a way to make it stop to sell us more of it.

  • @travesty-studios
    @travesty-studios Před měsícem

    It's interesting because we have companies that make things like knives for chefs and scissors for hairstylists that cost thousands of dollars and come with lifetime warranty for sharpening or replacing for free, they even give you a perfect temporary one while they have your shears (in the case of hairstylists). You can even still sell the shitty ones, but you'll effectively remove competition.

  • @gamehead1223
    @gamehead1223 Před 11 měsíci +65

    this is why we NEED a sega dreamcast 2

  • @Derpyrupert308
    @Derpyrupert308 Před 11 měsíci +67

    Creating a demand provides an active supply, this is purely rule 1 of marketing

  • @chuck_duck
    @chuck_duck Před 10 měsíci +43

    They stopped using the Holofx card because it was unreliable. Magnets demagnetize over time. So instead of getting garbage input after too much use, you’d get no inputs. Worse still, they’d wear down even if not being used.
    Source: my father whose living has been repairing controllers for 30+ years.

    • @Parallelwurlds
      @Parallelwurlds Před 6 měsíci +3

      Remagnetization?

    • @McChillinLikeAVillian
      @McChillinLikeAVillian Před 5 měsíci +20

      I’d rather not have a working controller one day after like 7 years then getting a new controller every year

    • @mrblitzkrieg3376
      @mrblitzkrieg3376 Před 5 měsíci +3

      I think a good way to fix that is to change the magnets to electromagnets as it is powered by electricity.

    • @GORILLA_PIMP
      @GORILLA_PIMP Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@McChillinLikeAVillianDam is that really how long the magnetic ones last..??

    • @McChillinLikeAVillian
      @McChillinLikeAVillian Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@GORILLA_PIMP yes bro, there supposed to last like 9 years tops and 6 at minimum

  • @i.l.m.r.b.a.n
    @i.l.m.r.b.a.n Před 8 měsíci +1

    "yeah I have an extra controller"

  • @resilientembers8987
    @resilientembers8987 Před rokem +145

    Pretty detailed explanation. Thanks for sharing. It’s unfortunate to think that there’s a high chance they continue using suboptimal parts for the sake of ensuring sales.
    As long as people keep purchasing them they won’t alter their manufacturing procedure. But bringing awareness as you mentioned is key.

    • @TinkerManMick
      @TinkerManMick  Před rokem +18

      Thanks, thats exactly it. The more we are all aware of the situation, the harder it is for them to hide it.

    • @the_mancavewithjacob
      @the_mancavewithjacob Před rokem +1

      Also we cant forgot about the abundance of units they still have at the factory

    • @GremlinSciences
      @GremlinSciences Před 10 měsíci

      It's more for cutting costs than for increasing sales. Potentiometers are cheaper than dirt, with the entire stick assembly only costing $0.20, while the Hall effect sensors are under patent from Guilkit and cost upwards of $3 per stick.
      Increasing sales is just a fortunate (for them) byproduct of saving money.

    • @futabafanclub865
      @futabafanclub865 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@GremlinSciences
      Okay but like, why not put them for the Edge Controllers then? They’re pretty expensive, so shouldn’t we be getting joysticks that will last long too?
      Hell, they can be optional pieces since you can remove the joysticks directly, and just replace them with the Hall effect ones, doesn’t have to be a whole new controller!
      But no, I get it, companies never change. It’s all about money in the end to them..

  • @thepsplayer6039
    @thepsplayer6039 Před rokem +45

    "Rubbish parts" lol😂

  • @ulischmidt03
    @ulischmidt03 Před 8 měsíci

    before this year, I’ve only ever heard of stick drift in context of the Switch and N64, but now it’s every where

  • @muttyvr
    @muttyvr Před měsícem

    gulikit might have made world peace

  • @michaelmiguelicutti2829
    @michaelmiguelicutti2829 Před 11 měsíci +35

    We should all file a class action lawsuit against these companies and force them to make better controllers. Microsoft faced a lawsuit for their elite controllers but it was settled out of court. Time to take them to trial!

    • @LukeTheSchoolBoy
      @LukeTheSchoolBoy Před 11 měsíci +1

      for what? because their product sucks? that's like taking Burger King to court because their food is bad.

    • @phitzwellthundercock3894
      @phitzwellthundercock3894 Před 8 měsíci +1

      They have and were laughed at by Microsoft’s billion dollar lawyers

    • @siramsquad5196
      @siramsquad5196 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Actually its a good idea, for the compare case, its like Europe forced iphone to using typed c instead lightning port, so actually we can forced all the consoles brand to using hardware that the same like sega did in their joystick.

    • @kontrolledkhaos4853
      @kontrolledkhaos4853 Před 7 měsíci

      Where’s my money then I have three elite controllers since they came out and they aren’t elite they just fit my hands that’s it

    • @dustinwalters2728
      @dustinwalters2728 Před 7 měsíci

      @@LukeTheSchoolBoy”You’re point is invalid because *insert false equivalency*.”

  • @blakegaming2667
    @blakegaming2667 Před rokem +445

    Because they want 💵 I would happily pay more for something that lasts
    Read the comments sorry for bro I don't play switch feel bad for all of us even, if we fix for free I just got extended warranty so I don't have to pay 90 aud, 94 pulse red 108 3 year warranty, if they even offered to fix free wouldn't there still be a problem? Shouldn't they last?

    • @TinkerManMick
      @TinkerManMick  Před rokem +24

      Good point, I think most of us would

    • @Radu33-
      @Radu33- Před rokem +1

      Gultik controller costs around 60usd

    • @kalvynhavenhill3366
      @kalvynhavenhill3366 Před rokem +4

      Bruh Xbox controllers at least worth 20$ in actual materials. They gon add something minimul and increase a controller from 60-80. Rip poor people

    • @connorjones1100
      @connorjones1100 Před rokem

      ...nintendo fixes it free...

    • @peter-966
      @peter-966 Před rokem +6

      @@connorjones1100 it shouldn’t need fixing in the first place if they made good controllers

  • @OmarShtaiwi_
    @OmarShtaiwi_ Před 10 měsíci

    Casually watching videos on stick drift so that I would get pumped up about my purchase of a hall effect based contoller.

  • @0akWoodLog
    @0akWoodLog Před 10 měsíci +1

    "yea i got a controller for you"

  • @marzXD420
    @marzXD420 Před rokem +79

    The reason is that they want us to "buy" more controllers because they keep breaking

    • @what_is_left
      @what_is_left Před rokem +2

      good thing i fixed mine when this happened
      im not paying 70$ for another controller 🤧

    • @orvisfreiberg7412
      @orvisfreiberg7412 Před rokem +3

      I get all the parts i can to gix myself

    • @cameroncox1008
      @cameroncox1008 Před rokem +2

      Nintendo has to fix em for free so they losing money there

    • @TheOfficialOriginalChad
      @TheOfficialOriginalChad Před 11 měsíci +1

      I haven’t gotten stick drift on any controllers in 25 years, except of course joycons. The pot sticks are just fine 99.9% of the time, but that 0.1% is very vocal.

    • @FangAlt
      @FangAlt Před 4 měsíci

      TRUE

  • @aarongoozman
    @aarongoozman Před rokem +7

    Its not a question if every Joycon will break, its when. It'll be a fun trivia topic for future console collectors. You just know someone's gonna pay lots of money for a sealed joycon just to see what it was like at launch.

  • @nicolassouza6063
    @nicolassouza6063 Před měsícem

    fun fact, some early models of ps3 controllers and the original psvita used hall effect joystick, both the controller and psvita got revisions later in their life spam that switched to potentiometers

  • @Haven_city_civilian
    @Haven_city_civilian Před měsícem

    And smooth & high sensitivity drift is what I value most in a controller!

  • @smokelikeahippi4538
    @smokelikeahippi4538 Před 11 měsíci +7

    I just had to take apart my ps5 controller and fix the stick drift. We need this

  • @1_yohanes_1
    @1_yohanes_1 Před rokem +3

    That would be absolute great because currently I’m struggling with stick drift

  • @kevindflowers234
    @kevindflowers234 Před měsícem

    I think you answered your own question there, bud.

  • @laharl2k
    @laharl2k Před 10 měsíci +1

    stick drift was fixed back in the ps1 era, its called auto calibration. My logitech gamepad has potentiometer sticks and works just fine. Every time you power it on it recalibrates the min and max and centre values for each axis so it can never have drift because when i gets some it gets corrected the next time you change the bateries. The play station 1 and 2 had the same thing

  • @maczack87
    @maczack87 Před rokem +73

    Hall effect sensors also drift over time due to the magnetic field changing in the sensor. It happens a lot faster in environments that fluctuate a lot but over time it happens no matter what. Hall effect sensors are definitely better in my opinion but there are ups and downs with both.

    • @JarodHaws
      @JarodHaws Před rokem +9

      Thank you was looking for someone who actual knew ifv they were better

    • @0hg0dwhiiii
      @0hg0dwhiiii Před rokem +7

      Shhhh can’t say things like the truth

    • @JessicaFEREM
      @JessicaFEREM Před rokem +7

      yeah but that's over time, and easily correctable with an adjustment screw if you care to, but the more important thing is that it doesn't fail in a few months of heavy gaming, if you're gaming that hard you're more likely to wear out the rubber pads before then, which to me is a reasonable failure mode.

    • @estro8897
      @estro8897 Před rokem +11

      Yeah but the fail rate stick drift on a hall effect method is drastically lower fail rate compared to a potentiometers

    • @motherfucking_demoncore8185
      @motherfucking_demoncore8185 Před rokem +1

      By the time, it's starts drifting you may or may not moving on in life

  • @OG_Sticky_
    @OG_Sticky_ Před rokem +33

    We gotta blow this up frfr

    • @phdfloppa7178
      @phdfloppa7178 Před rokem

      More like Blow up the people who wanna Gouge us for all our money for mediocre controllers.

    • @TheOneEyedMac
      @TheOneEyedMac Před rokem +3

      Like 911

  • @Thoughtlesskyle
    @Thoughtlesskyle Před měsícem

    To quote Bill Heard from Commodore "Pennies matter in quantities of a million" in short cost

  • @emptytrashben2375
    @emptytrashben2375 Před 10 měsíci +1

    My dualsense and one joycon are the only controllers to ever have drift. I never understood why people say it’s so common.

  • @giovannigiorgio2262
    @giovannigiorgio2262 Před rokem +5

    they want us to buy controls all time

  • @TexasBrown713
    @TexasBrown713 Před rokem +10

    Stick shift is the bane of my console gaming existence 🙄. I've gone through so many controllers because of it, I tolerate it for a bit but toss the damn thing once it gets real bad. Luckily I've gotten use to cheap wired controllers by now so when it does happen, it doesn't hurt as much as much as it did when my 60$ controllers went down for the count 💀

    • @ryanabarca8616
      @ryanabarca8616 Před rokem +1

      Dude stop eating KFC and taco bell while gaming and it won't happen so much 😂

    • @TexasBrown713
      @TexasBrown713 Před rokem

      @Ryan Abarca your moms messiness on my fingertips is bad for controllers apparently, love her smell tho 🤤😂

    • @Ismatic1906
      @Ismatic1906 Před 11 měsíci

      @@ryanabarca8616what do you even mean?

  • @ReptilianConman
    @ReptilianConman Před měsícem +1

    I have a hall effect controller and it's awesome

  • @fXoKDM
    @fXoKDM Před měsícem

    Sega had the best joystick module ever made hands down

  • @rashed434
    @rashed434 Před rokem +3

    Obsessed with this man’s voice

  • @Bu11etUK
    @Bu11etUK Před rokem +3

    I used to repair PS2 controllers which did use potentiometers however they were (somewhat presumably) much higher quality and maybe around 5% of them that I had to repair were stick drift related problems. Another potential reason may be slightly higher dead-zones in older consoles / controllers etc. yet during testing most were acceptable. fun fact: most PS2 controllers become faulty as buttons stop working due to the flexi pcb losing the ability due to them degrading and losing the ability to detect a drop in resistance when a button is pressed, nowadays modern controllers rely on as soon as there is even a slight bit of connectivity, the button gets registered, reducing the chance of buttons "wearing out" as fast. Also no one asked inbound 😂

  • @n0lain
    @n0lain Před 10 měsíci +1

    I recently built myself a custom type of Gamecube controller motherboard called a phob where it uses magnets and hall effect sensors instead of the physical pots, and it's night and day. Can't tell you how relieving it is to mot have to worry about stick issues, especially as a Melee player. Would highly recommend to everyone.

  • @Str3tch2290
    @Str3tch2290 Před 2 měsíci

    They think they will sell more controllers that way. But they actually just make more repairmen.

  • @UltraSilver2
    @UltraSilver2 Před rokem +85

    There are 2 reasons this isn't used in controllers. They use ferromagnet and are expensive. Ferromagnets are fragile and can be damaged when dropped. Definitely more of the first reason than the second, but the "pro" controllers should definitely be using them.

    • @XGARBAGExBO2
      @XGARBAGExBO2 Před rokem +4

      Don't drop it?

    • @moon_wingo
      @moon_wingo Před rokem +14

      Oh yeah, its to much expensive for a console would cost's around 500$, yeah, *too much expensive*
      But now explain ev bikes, the same use the same magnets

    • @satibel
      @satibel Před rokem +18

      the magnets aren't that fragile, and they can be Embedded in plastic which would completely prevent them from being damaged unless the controller itself is extremely damaged.
      I'm pretty sure regular hall effect sticks wouldn't be damaged by any drop which doesn't also crack the shell.

    • @Mr371312
      @Mr371312 Před 11 měsíci +1

      It has been used, in ps3 controllers. They literally went back because they lasted too long. Meanwhile new controllers cost several times over.

    • @gur1363
      @gur1363 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@Mr371312where did you hear this?

  • @kutqui9231
    @kutqui9231 Před rokem +6

    two reasons: cheaper to manufacture, and it breaking will most likely result in you buying another controller. I haven't played on my Xbox in a long time, so I don't even know if they have warranty for these kinds of things, but I'm guessing if you replace the joysticks, it will void your warranty.

    • @frosty1433
      @frosty1433 Před rokem

      What makes you think it’s cheaper to manufacture? They both cost pennies to make.

    • @orvisfreiberg7412
      @orvisfreiberg7412 Před rokem

      Replacement part comes in 10 or more

    • @michaelmiguelicutti2829
      @michaelmiguelicutti2829 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@frosty1433 and one is pennies cheaper than the other. That's how petty and cheap Microsoft and these other greedy companies are!

  • @YOUNGPADAWON
    @YOUNGPADAWON Před 4 měsíci

    Mr Krabs said it best “ I LIKE MONEYYY”

  • @firehazardfox159
    @firehazardfox159 Před 10 měsíci

    Same reason that we have to replace light bulbs when we use to have light bulbs that can last 100 years

  • @gusfring5485
    @gusfring5485 Před rokem +3

    companies do this on purpose, not only are the potentiometer joysticks cheaper to manufacture. they are also unreliable, which inevitably leads to you buying more of their unreliable controllers. not to mention that there are practically no repair shops that can fix it. yet another way big companies screw you over

  • @Domo69420
    @Domo69420 Před rokem +12

    I find it crazy most people just throw the controller away instead of trying to repair it themselves. If its going into the trash at least take it apart and get an idea

    • @michaeldejode473
      @michaeldejode473 Před rokem +2

      Same thought here, I repair controllers in my family and the only thing I won't replace is the motherboard (they cost 40€ or above for originals), a new controller is 60€ here. The battery is the most expensive thing that I'll replace and it usually comes with an upgrade (1000mAh to 1500 or 2000mAh for ps4 controllers) and they cost 20€ for 2 x 1500mAh batteries and 20€ for 1 x 2000mAh.

    • @TheOfficialOriginalChad
      @TheOfficialOriginalChad Před 11 měsíci

      I find it crazy people just buy cars instead of build them.
      On second thought, maybe they just buy them because they don’t know enough about cars to build one…but that would mean they don’t know everything about everything…

    • @michaeldejode473
      @michaeldejode473 Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@@TheOfficialOriginalChad Actually two very different things no? Repairing and building? Many people can replace a tire, or battery of a car. And that would be more in line of what we are talking about here.
      There are also countless tutorials for common problems, good ones, that'll give you the guidance you need to repair a controller (or car).
      And I wouldn't try and repair a car (especially when it's a more advanced issue) without a professional besides me, cause well it's a lot more expensive if you make a mistake.
      On a controller, you might break the tabs, no problem, it has screws that hold it together. Or you might tear a ribbon, no problem just get a new ribbon (very cheap).
      If you need to desolder or solder a part, then maybe get someone besides you that is more knowledgable, but even that is not that difficult when you compare it to many car repairs.
      Personally every time there is a repair needed, car, controller, television, etc... and I don't know how to do that then I ask someone (a professional) if they can help. I've learned a ton that way. In my opinion many people are too lazy to do that and decide it's too much of a hassle and just buy everything new.

    • @toast6375
      @toast6375 Před 11 měsíci

      @@TheOfficialOriginalChadthis is closer to refilling gas

  • @spectator6656
    @spectator6656 Před 7 měsíci

    I think if we look back at Mr. Krabs famous words it’ll all make sense.

  • @Jagga672
    @Jagga672 Před 8 měsíci

    Drift be helpin me 💀

  • @unluckyrock420
    @unluckyrock420 Před 11 měsíci +9

    Same as the lightbulb scam. Almost all businesses make cheap, effective products that last long enough for you to like it until it breaks and you "need" a new one.

    • @TinkerManMick
      @TinkerManMick  Před 11 měsíci +4

      I agree, good to see others know about the light bulb situation!

  • @Vizr.
    @Vizr. Před rokem +4

    Someone that has a CZcams channel is currently developing his own, and will begin a test phase. With a Released product soon after.

    • @TheOfficialOriginalChad
      @TheOfficialOriginalChad Před 11 měsíci

      Very helpful. I’ll look for someone that has a CZcams channel.

    • @Vizr.
      @Vizr. Před 11 měsíci

      @@TheOfficialOriginalChad Marius heier

  • @tronpig
    @tronpig Před 10 měsíci

    In the wise words of Mr. Krabs....
    "M O N E Y"

  • @stas2x
    @stas2x Před měsícem

    the "eeksbox kontrollah" is the biggest shit in controllers history

  • @bland9876
    @bland9876 Před rokem +3

    Except for the joy cons all of the controllers I've ever used seem to get loose over time I don't know if that's this thing's fault or if there's some other spring inside that's loose but yeah. Only my joycons acted perfectly fine when you close your eyes but on the screen the character wasn't behaving properly.

  • @skinnern2o
    @skinnern2o Před rokem +2

    It’s all about $$$. The potentiometer joysticks are cheap so it keeps manufacturing costs down. They, like you said, wear out so eventually customers end up getting a whole new controller cause customers usually don’t know how (or don’t have the means) to replace the joysticks.

    • @caseykuhn4041
      @caseykuhn4041 Před 11 dny

      So what's the best way to fix this. Replace the whole analog/joystick by means of re soldering the gulikit electromagnetic modules on the pcb or simply cleaning the things shown in the video?

  • @k.r.99
    @k.r.99 Před 5 měsíci

    Imagine opening a shop, where you modify people's controllers with these parts. It'd be a strong business

  • @zackclark4273
    @zackclark4273 Před 7 měsíci

    I was thinking my dreamcast never had this problem

  • @tristankessler2962
    @tristankessler2962 Před rokem +6

    More money, and they don’t pick up on movement as well

    • @dustysoutherland4973
      @dustysoutherland4973 Před rokem

      I agree with you. kinda like how the corporations that started selling lightbulbs reduced live efficiency of them to half for more money. I now know why people told me “they don’t make things like they use to” haha

  • @lexwelsh3511
    @lexwelsh3511 Před rokem +6

    I would assume potentiometers are cheaper among other reasons.

  • @sheikhu1039
    @sheikhu1039 Před 9 měsíci +2

    More people need to see this

  • @botytvita
    @botytvita Před 2 měsíci

    How bro’s controller looks after losing ten ranked games in a row:

  • @o0Hidden0o
    @o0Hidden0o Před rokem +4

    Neodymium magnets are expensive, also the ps2 controllers as a sensor to detect stick drift and correct it. You wouldn’t even need the console, the controller itself can tell when there are inputs that don’t make sense and will automatically adjust its output. Damn things are tough as nails too. I had one that the entire front plastic part of where the left stick is got worn out, broke, fell into the controller and was like that for years before I took it apart to clean. Works just fine compared to a new out the box controller, albeit not as stiff in the sticks and triggers.

    • @SviatoslavDamaschin
      @SviatoslavDamaschin Před 10 měsíci

      2cents for 2 magnets (if you buy in bulk), pretty expensive, should take a loan to afford it. Dang it.

  • @sdud.
    @sdud. Před rokem +7

    Average Fortnite players controller

    • @TinkerManMick
      @TinkerManMick  Před rokem +3

      🤣

    • @sdud.
      @sdud. Před rokem

      @@TinkerManMick nah I got another one, yours friends 2nd controller for split screen:

  • @ZeroProko
    @ZeroProko Před 5 měsíci

    If they made the joysticks modular, it would be so much easier to fix yourself too

  • @damenpine
    @damenpine Před 5 měsíci

    Friend: my friend is so cool he lets me use the on brand controller when we play together
    *me with my superior off brand controller*

  • @armando_az1
    @armando_az1 Před rokem +3

    All down to cost, probably cheaper

    • @kodda5805
      @kodda5805 Před rokem +5

      na its so we have to get new ones. also thay need to be able to sell all of them so if we just needed on thay would have lost alot of money

    • @realislit8064
      @realislit8064 Před rokem

      The controller that gulikit made with their sticks cost the same as an xbox series controller and it has more features than hall effect, so its cheaper for them not for us

  • @iamn4m3l3ss7
    @iamn4m3l3ss7 Před rokem +4

    Yeah it fixes drift but the magnets itself introduce more issues like losing their magnetic field over time making them less accurate. Especially holding other magnets nearby can cause tons of issues.

    • @realislit8064
      @realislit8064 Před rokem +3

      The loss of accuracy overtime is still takes more time to be more noticeable than it is on potentiometer, its only accelerated when you're in an area with constant heavy magnetism in which case, why?
      I have their controller, and yes nearby magnets can influence the readings, but with a fridge magnet I have to make it extremely close just to see rhe effect in action, you meed to have a pretty strong magnet nearby which begs the question why would you even have that strong of a magnet nearby electronics to begin with?

  • @hopelessdroid
    @hopelessdroid Před 10 měsíci +1

    The little piece of metal is not the part that causes stick drift it's actually the blueish green plastic piece, it as the metallic surface that gets scratched on the other side

  • @HedonDitit
    @HedonDitit Před 3 měsíci

    crazy how i went on google after watching this and got an article on xbox releasing a new controller update ...

  • @LifeHackerMax
    @LifeHackerMax Před rokem +3

    It is in part that but it can also be caused by the plastic parts inside the stick itself from wearing over time. I would be more inclined to believe stick drift is caused from the plastic parts more often than from the potentiometer. At least from my experience and the controllers I have opened up.

    • @wassilchoujaa3478
      @wassilchoujaa3478 Před rokem

      Have you replaced the potentiometer before ? What was the result?

  • @ImNotPalmer
    @ImNotPalmer Před 6 měsíci

    The most common problem is it not surviving the fly to the other side of my room when I chuck it.

  • @siskavard
    @siskavard Před 10 měsíci

    this guy sounds like a Big Lez Show character

  • @tribalmemes6414
    @tribalmemes6414 Před rokem +22

    Because Microsoft is money hungry EZ Clap

    • @dankmoon949
      @dankmoon949 Před rokem

      Xbox elite series 2 uses the magnetic sticks but the series 1 still has the trash sticks pretty sure the only companies not using them RN are Sony and Nintendo

    • @Ausaradio
      @Ausaradio Před rokem +2

      so is sony and nintendo

    • @realislit8064
      @realislit8064 Před rokem

      ​​@@dankmoon949 xbox elite series 2 doesn't use hall effect sticks, it only uses hall effect for its triggers, so no company actually using them rn

  • @InakaGames
    @InakaGames Před 10 měsíci +3

    1. Cost
    2. Design
    3. Patents
    Also. The metal piece you show does not fail. It's the carbon contact on the other side that wears down, inside the potentiometer housing welded to the controller.
    High quality magnets that don't weaken over time, are actually relatively new. Cheap ones are also rather new. The design is also something that can require *per controller* calibrations, which again, we're difficult to scale. And finally the Hall Effect sticks used in the Dream cast are patented, and I believe SEGA lost a lawsuit over it. That is likely a pending lawsuit for whoever does it as an OEM if they don't license it.

  • @wangtang32000
    @wangtang32000 Před 10 měsíci

    ended up buying a guli kit controller some time ago, i'll update this the day the sticks drift.

  • @fasttechvideo
    @fasttechvideo Před 4 měsíci

    They do it so they can sell you a new controller when the sticks inevitably fail.

  • @H8RSAPPRECIATE
    @H8RSAPPRECIATE Před 10 měsíci

    I honestly thought it was because of damage like hitting or throwing your controller or dust but this makes sense why I heard of people saying their new controller breaks within a few months

  • @fairestbass17
    @fairestbass17 Před 10 měsíci

    the controller your friend gives while over at their house:

  • @Breadbloxwastaken
    @Breadbloxwastaken Před 10 měsíci

    “Sega does what Nintendont”

  • @squirrelthegamer8483
    @squirrelthegamer8483 Před 11 měsíci

    Thanks for telling me these parts exist so I can replace the ones in my controller.

  • @prorabbid2091
    @prorabbid2091 Před 10 měsíci

    The extra controller:

  • @Moshugaani
    @Moshugaani Před 9 měsíci

    With any luck the inevitable Switch 2 might have Hall Effect sticks! At least they patented a Hall design not too long ago.

  • @MidnightStarBPU
    @MidnightStarBPU Před 11 měsíci

    I bought the gulikit King Kong controller recently. Best multi use controller purchase ever imo

  • @QUABBY1
    @QUABBY1 Před měsícem

    One simple answer to the question...
    Marketing...

  • @RuStOlIuM420
    @RuStOlIuM420 Před 3 měsíci

    I think we need a conversion kit if possible