John K is living proof that abuse victims can become abusers themselves! That's why it's important to break the cycle and realize what you experienced is not a reason to treat other people horribly!
That's why I can't fully hate the guy, despite the horrible shit that he did, he just tried to cope with it the best he could through cartoons. But just like he says here, you can't bottle up emotions, and the trauma he experienced came out in one way or another, and it caused further pain to others.
There never is a reason in that persons head why they do it. It’s just learned behavior. It’s unconscious and sometimes feels natural to act like that.
So it’s true! His own father abused him! Which goes to show me that deep down, John K is not such a bad person. The thing to do now is reason with him.
John K is a genius, and when people say things like he should be dead or that stuff its just stupid, they dont even think what they're saying, even after john did all those things i still have a bit of respect for the man, beacuse after watching the perfection and work his team and him too putted into ren and stimpy is fantastic, the voices, the music and the animation, everything is so well made, and when people say things about him i dont like that at all, he did do really bad things, but saying things like hoping he dies its just dumb, his dad doesnt seem like a nice guy and its a bit sad seeing him talking so good about him, i mean its his dad but still, thats how he knows people are, even tho its not really like that, thats what he knows, about him being a perfectionist, being a perfectionist its not good when its something thats not so important, but he made ren and stimpy his masterpiece, he hasnt done anything as good as ren and stimpy ever again, and sure bob camp and more people were really important but john is the creator after all, so its not good wishing bad things happen to him
Being inspired by Kirk Douglas doesn't surprise me, considering he was an amazing actor. But Michael Kricfalusi sounds like a horrible person who should've been less abusive towards John. If Mike wasn't so abusive, John would've likely been a better person.
Maybe He had an abusive father and a terrible childhood but that doesn't excuse how he treated his staff and how he abused most of his girlfriends, John K doesn't need understanding he needed to act nicer and being a good person but he choosed to be a dick.
I don't think you should blame the dad for his behavior neither John K blames his dad for his behavior, he's only telling how he inspired his work and besides a dad getting angry with you once in a while is the most normal thing
Kirk was a big part of the show's animation and influence to the show, and John has a lot of daddy issues! It's a problem! I feel bad for him in his youth, it must've been hard for him. He's so fixated on abusive anger from men. It really screwed him up. The stories he tells from his childhood confirm this. He's a very angry, depressed (he must have some form of depression because he has been through a lot of trauma from his own father and I could assume it's part of the reason why he's such a darn perfectionist on his cartoons because he wants to have control over everything/everyone around him and he chooses to repress it, then it builds up and he ends up looking like an explosive mess of a man. Nothing but anger and spite) person. It's sad because that's how he treated his girlfriends. The guy is scummy but I do feel bad for him in that regard.
I don't feel bad for him, I mean I feel sorry he had a really sad childhood and all but that's not an excuse to treat your staff badly and abuse your girlfriends. John K needed psychological helps that's for sure. Maybe he wasn't ready to work in the industry as a leader of a big project
@@RayManiac90 I very much agree. The guy is a major asshole as an adult. He needs to get himself some help, but I believe he should have done that way back before he even concieved TR&SS. Seriously, screw John K.
@@moghraliamneeson I think he needed to be nicer and understood his wrong doings back in the days, but nope he decided to be a dick to anybody who worked for and with him.
I agree to the fact that John K is an abusive creep but while I was watching this I kind of felt bad for him. Having a scary dad like his must have been horrible,you can see the trauma reflected in his works and movements. If he got the help he needed early,maybe he would have been a different person now...
Watch the Ren & Stimpy episode, "A Visit to Anthony". It has an intense depiction of what I assume is his father's wrath would've been like. But it ends in comic relief.
John K works shows he uses it to relieve his traumas. generally people hide it so deep that even talk about is a hard stress, But John, let his live follow as that make him stronger, and also his animation.
I fuckin' KNEW that the male figures in his cartoons were depictions of his father! The '50s dress, hair, and style, along with looming presence of impulsive violence was too oft repeated to be a simple aesthetic choice. Pretty sure this explains a lot of what makes John K. such a twisted creature.
While I don't feel bad for him I do feel sorry he had to go through that as a kid. You can tell it really affected him as a person because there are just so many easily pissed off middle aged guys who scream and yell in his work.
DAFUQ YOU MEAN THERE ARE TOO MANY PISSED OFF MIDDLE AGED GUYS WHO SCREAM AND....!!! Oh... sorry. I mean, carry on. [no,don'tcarryon] (Yes, it is probable that many males in this age bracket display frustration at the lack of fruition from their endeavors in life when contrasted with the hopes and expectations they have placed upon themselves, and possibly even THE EXPECTATIONS BY OTHERS!!! to establish a socially and financially STABLE environment for themselves and their OFFSPRING!!!!!! reWhardZthatWEREREREREpromisedbutneVERwrkdOUTbcauSExxxXXXxXXxx and XXXxXXXx Xa nd schiiiiixXXXXX ))))) I'm sorry, is this thing on? Well, now that I've come this far, may as well post....
John K is a perverted bully for what he did to those girls and his staff, but As somebody who’s dealt with bullying/ degradation I see how he became the way he is. Other famous abusers like Harvey Weinstein, R Kelly and Onision had either d bag parents or were bullied,abused, emotionally knocked down in someway or another maybe more than one and a lot and in the way they treat others around them take back the power they felt was taken from them. This added with their loneliness and other childhood problems manifests them into insanity. We should hold them accountable for their actions but for future reference understand people since Lack of understanding is one of the biggest fuels of madness in this world
Do I think that John K is an abusive asshole? Yes. There's no way you can excuse his actions in that regard. What I also think on the other end is that in spite of that he did leave his mark on the animation industry and the overall history of the art form. So yes, there are negatives that affect his reputation. But there were some positives that came out of it as a whole. The moral of the whole tragedy behind him is that while great art comes from the pain of an individual it is also as Robin Byrd put it, You don't have to inflict pain onto others to bring out the best of someone's talent which is essentially what people need to learn from here.
I wholeheartedly agree with these points. I don't think Ren & Stimpy would've been the way it was without John having that personality though. He made some great cartoons, but he really lost his mind when he lost the show he created.
@@Eli_Santin The thing is though he was already off his rocker during the original show's run. Even before he actually made any physical contact with Byrd he was already grooming her soon as she sent that letter to him at least 3-4 years prior to living with him in 1997, same situation happened with him and Rice before things got worse.
Possible. But people back then, in general, we’re much tougher. They were cut from a different cloth than say this generation. He mentioned his dad grew up during the depression era.
His persona and overall dimeanor here is *SO* different than what I remember from the old Howard Stern episode... the one where they all ganged on Billy (and he quit the following day).. lol Never mind how different he appears physically as well --- on that episode, he looked like a creep and even the staff kept cracking serial-killer jokes about him!
Not just that, but the abuse towards coworkers all clearly comes from his father. If his dad were nicer, he would probably be a way better person but we might not have had Ren and Stimpy
Johnny shoulda been locked up in a mental hospital during his childhood then when hes healed enough he couldve then been ready to make his cartoon brought to life tho im pretty sure R&S woulda been entirely different in terms of tone
Yes, it's disappointing when artists we like do bad things but if we start dismissing them, we wont have many left to appreciate. Most of my favourite artists and authors were deeply problematic and complicated people.
Never could stand Kirk Douglas myself. I always turn the channel if I see him in a movie but ever since I saw John K's take on him I think I'll see him in a totally different light.
I recently news about Drake Bell sent me back to this clip and the clip about the Man's Best Friend episode and someone said this in Alexis Nikolas Eat Predators Channel in the comments that they saw Drake Bell as both a Victim and an offender and i kind of see the same when it comes to John K.
Express his experience in his characters dont turn John abusive. Just generate situations for his characters that correspond to a lot of abusive people. Ren being abusive dont make any apology to be legal to be that way. Just show as a abusive person can be. And can help people to recognise the situation in their life and try to avoid and react properly
John's problem was he didnt make friends with the executives. The abuse if minors hasn't stopped, those involved simply play ball, and throw their lot in.
Older toy designs (especially those from the 1950s/60s) are incredible for inspiration. It was the atomic era of design, innovative illustration, architecture, automotive design, fashion, film, etc. Also, those are the toys he grew up with, and they probably remind him of everything that was good about his childhood.
Say wut u want.. but that license plate read Canada... (At 2:23) So yea.. wasn't us good buddy.. that was them over there, jus sayin, our traumatic ppl came with music (prince, mike j, ali, MLK) our trauma made the world stand on its toes, jus sayin.. I don't argue on YT, I jus explain the facts 😂 u guys shoot up whole places of innocent ppl here when u have trauma, and say Chicago.. that one place vs every school or anywhere else for that matter 😂😂😂
I'm the only one who think Robin is lying? Something is not right here.. , the girl had a huge trauma because of John, that's why she wanted to cancel the restart of the show a few years ago and now she was able to work as a creative consultant for the new reboot that she wanted to cancel a few years ago ? Don't you guys feel that something stinks here? I don't believe Robin, this was planned in advance, but I don't understand why she lied and why she wanted to cancel the reboot if she is now working for the reboot ! Don't get me wrong we know what kind of person John is, but I don't believe Robin either! Remember how much did Robin insist that young girls should be protected from this show and Ren and Stimpy and now she's working on the reboot? What a big liar she really is!
People in this industry do anything for money, it's not shocking to me. I don't think she lied but more so lost any morality once she saw how much the pay would be.
@@gingeralice3858 I think she lied Nobody forced Robin to live with him and put up with him in the first place , we lived in different time , then no one had hysterics because of age differences in the past. Robin's parents also have a lot of responsibility not just john , even Robin's parents agreed that an older man is dating their own daughter in the 90s, many older celebrity's had 16-year-old girlfriends, why are we crying now when the movie stars used to have unlimited dates with younger ones..
I still don’t feel bad for John K. I hate him AND his father. This is why cycles of abuse need to be broken. You become just as bad as those that hurt you.
Surely everybodys parents are the same - John is just telling (possibly "over-telling/selling") it from his point of view. Everybody gets told off, always and forever. I think that wimpy internet moaning idjits simply turn all this stuff into something it's not - make it more dramatic, so they can be more justified and "outraged" at John K... read nearly every comment on this video alone to see what I'm speaking of. "LiL'JpD."
That's the kinda shit abuser-apologists and fake "alpha males" say to justify their own coping with the world around them. Nothing you say makes sense.
Sure, everyone's parents may have been the same, but most of them didn't grow up with such behavior like John K. Even before the internet became such a big thing, people who knew John K or worked with were outraged at him for his behavior. You can search up multiple official sources of John K being a terrible person towards others even before his allegations of sexual assault were confirmed.
John K is living proof that abuse victims can become abusers themselves! That's why it's important to break the cycle and realize what you experienced is not a reason to treat other people horribly!
Most people doing it don’t realize they’re doing it, and most people won’t warn them so the cycle is pretty hard to break
That's why I can't fully hate the guy, despite the horrible shit that he did, he just tried to cope with it the best he could through cartoons. But just like he says here, you can't bottle up emotions, and the trauma he experienced came out in one way or another, and it caused further pain to others.
There never is a reason in that persons head why they do it. It’s just learned behavior. It’s unconscious and sometimes feels natural to act like that.
So it’s true! His own father abused him! Which goes to show me that deep down, John K is not such a bad person. The thing to do now is reason with him.
what proof?
John K is one of those people where the philosophy is "love the art, not the artist".
Not to me
I feel sorry for the dude
@@rankrodent2772 same here his dad made him the way he is
John k is not the one to hate
It’s his father
@@KENNYTHEGHOST777I agree
@@rankrodent2772 What about his victims? The ones he manipulated and abused?
John K is a genius, and when people say things like he should be dead or that stuff its just stupid, they dont even think what they're saying, even after john did all those things i still have a bit of respect for the man, beacuse after watching the perfection and work his team and him too putted into ren and stimpy is fantastic, the voices, the music and the animation, everything is so well made, and when people say things about him i dont like that at all, he did do really bad things, but saying things like hoping he dies its just dumb, his dad doesnt seem like a nice guy and its a bit sad seeing him talking so good about him, i mean its his dad but still, thats how he knows people are, even tho its not really like that, thats what he knows, about him being a perfectionist, being a perfectionist its not good when its something thats not so important, but he made ren and stimpy his masterpiece, he hasnt done anything as good as ren and stimpy ever again, and sure bob camp and more people were really important but john is the creator after all, so its not good wishing bad things happen to him
You’re sympathizing with this pervert? He should be serving time.
THANK YOU
Being inspired by Kirk Douglas doesn't surprise me, considering he was an amazing actor.
But Michael Kricfalusi sounds like a horrible person who should've been less abusive towards John. If Mike wasn't so abusive, John would've likely been a better person.
Maybe He had an abusive father and a terrible childhood but that doesn't excuse how he treated his staff and how he abused most of his girlfriends, John K doesn't need understanding he needed to act nicer and being a good person but he choosed to be a dick.
@@RayManiac90 Nobody is excusing John's behavior. But abused kids likely turn out to be abusive adults.
Maybe if John was a better person he could be married and have kids
And maybe some therapy too
I don't think you should blame the dad for his behavior neither John K blames his dad for his behavior, he's only telling how he inspired his work and besides a dad getting angry with you once in a while is the most normal thing
Kirk was a big part of the show's animation and influence to the show, and John has a lot of daddy issues! It's a problem! I feel bad for him in his youth, it must've been hard for him. He's so fixated on abusive anger from men. It really screwed him up. The stories he tells from his childhood confirm this. He's a very angry, depressed (he must have some form of depression because he has been through a lot of trauma from his own father and I could assume it's part of the reason why he's such a darn perfectionist on his cartoons because he wants to have control over everything/everyone around him and he chooses to repress it, then it builds up and he ends up looking like an explosive mess of a man. Nothing but anger and spite) person. It's sad because that's how he treated his girlfriends. The guy is scummy but I do feel bad for him in that regard.
I don't feel bad for him, I mean I feel sorry he had a really sad childhood and all but that's not an excuse to treat your staff badly and abuse your girlfriends. John K needed psychological helps that's for sure. Maybe he wasn't ready to work in the industry as a leader of a big project
@@RayManiac90 I very much agree. The guy is a major asshole as an adult. He needs to get himself some help, but I believe he should have done that way back before he even concieved TR&SS. Seriously, screw John K.
@@moghraliamneeson I think he needed to be nicer and understood his wrong doings back in the days, but nope he decided to be a dick to anybody who worked for and with him.
@@RayManiac90 I think so too. He would have still have a career too.
Without mention Ralph Bakshi wasn't a great person to have a quiet conversation either.
I agree to the fact that John K is an abusive creep but while I was watching this I kind of felt bad for him.
Having a scary dad like his must have been horrible,you can see the trauma reflected in his works and movements.
If he got the help he needed early,maybe he would have been a different person now...
I agree.
Watch the Ren & Stimpy episode, "A Visit to Anthony". It has an intense depiction of what I assume is his father's wrath would've been like. But it ends in comic relief.
I'm sure John would get a second chance if he got some serious help.
NO,...we all had tough dads,...but we didn't end up as creepy depraved pedophiles,....Excuse rejected.
Besides since it happened years ago, he's probably over it now.
John K works shows he uses it to relieve his traumas. generally people hide it so deep that even talk about is a hard stress, But John, let his live follow as that make him stronger, and also his animation.
I fuckin' KNEW that the male figures in his cartoons were depictions of his father! The '50s dress, hair, and style, along with looming presence of impulsive violence was too oft repeated to be a simple aesthetic choice. Pretty sure this explains a lot of what makes John K. such a twisted creature.
Everything goes back to his dad
Ren really does remind me of both Peter Lorre and Kirk Douglas especially when John k Voiced ren.
Now I need to see someone animate Peter and Kirk's characters from 20K Leagues as Ren and Stimpy.
John Kricfalusi inspired me to write about tragedies behind movies and TV shows for my bachelor 📝📺 about the sad truth behind 😞
While I don't feel bad for him I do feel sorry he had to go through that as a kid. You can tell it really affected him as a person because there are just so many easily pissed off middle aged guys who scream and yell in his work.
DAFUQ YOU MEAN THERE ARE TOO MANY PISSED OFF MIDDLE AGED GUYS WHO SCREAM AND....!!!
Oh... sorry. I mean, carry on. [no,don'tcarryon]
(Yes, it is probable that many males in this age bracket display frustration at the lack of fruition from their endeavors in life when contrasted with the hopes and expectations they have placed upon themselves, and possibly even THE EXPECTATIONS BY OTHERS!!! to establish a socially and financially STABLE environment for themselves and their OFFSPRING!!!!!! reWhardZthatWEREREREREpromisedbutneVERwrkdOUTbcauSExxxXXXxXXxx and XXXxXXXx Xa nd schiiiiixXXXXX
))))) I'm sorry, is this thing on?
Well, now that I've come this far, may as well post....
You’re a pervert sympathizer. Great.
@@thebrowithnoname1703 And you are annoying..
@@queenkurumi8504 😭
Lol, I could see this in his art.. especially the scene with the older man terrorizing ren n stimpy by the fireplace.
Pure art
John K is a perverted bully for what he did to those girls and his staff, but As somebody who’s dealt with bullying/ degradation I see how he became the way he is.
Other famous abusers like Harvey Weinstein, R Kelly and Onision had either d bag parents or were bullied,abused, emotionally knocked down in someway or another maybe more than one and a lot and in the way they treat others around them take back the power they felt was taken from them. This added with their loneliness and other childhood problems manifests them into insanity. We should hold them accountable for their actions but for future reference understand people since Lack of understanding is one of the biggest fuels of madness in this world
I miss when this kind of acting was the norm tbh. Everything besides oscar bait is so flat now.
Do I think that John K is an abusive asshole? Yes.
There's no way you can excuse his actions in that regard. What I also think on the other end is that in spite of that he did leave his mark on the animation industry and the overall history of the art form.
So yes, there are negatives that affect his reputation. But there were some positives that came out of it as a whole. The moral of the whole tragedy behind him is that while great art comes from the pain of an individual it is also as Robin Byrd put it, You don't have to inflict pain onto others to bring out the best of someone's talent which is essentially what people need to learn from here.
I wholeheartedly agree with these points. I don't think Ren & Stimpy would've been the way it was without John having that personality though. He made some great cartoons, but he really lost his mind when he lost the show he created.
@@Eli_Santin The thing is though he was already off his rocker during the original show's run. Even before he actually made any physical contact with Byrd he was already grooming her soon as she sent that letter to him at least 3-4 years prior to living with him in 1997, same situation happened with him and Rice before things got worse.
I wonder if his father ( who served in the Canadian Air Force) had PTSD from the war, and that's what caused him to act the way he did?
Possible. But people back then, in general, we’re much tougher. They were cut from a different cloth than say this generation. He mentioned his dad grew up during the depression era.
@@kombijr The stuff those guys saw, no human is physiologically designed to withstand. There's no shame in it.
And probably gave PSTD to him
His persona and overall dimeanor here is *SO* different than what I remember from the old Howard Stern episode... the one where they all ganged on Billy (and he quit the following day).. lol
Never mind how different he appears physically as well --- on that episode, he looked like a creep and even the staff kept cracking serial-killer jokes about him!
You're right on him being a creep
He was a real life mad genius.
after watching this it's so clear that his horrible father is ultimately what gave him this warped view of masculinity
Not just that, but the abuse towards coworkers all clearly comes from his father. If his dad were nicer, he would probably be a way better person but we might not have had Ren and Stimpy
Johnny shoulda been locked up in a mental hospital during his childhood then when hes healed enough he couldve then been ready to make his cartoon brought to life tho im pretty sure R&S woulda been entirely different in terms of tone
“Madness, as you know, is like gravity. All it takes is a little push.”
He’s funny
Yes, it's disappointing when artists we like do bad things but if we start dismissing them, we wont have many left to appreciate. Most of my favourite artists and authors were deeply problematic and complicated people.
John K is a terrible person but he is also a genius slash divergent thinker.
Oh yes!
Although I hate him too much, he is talented
What did he do that was so bad?
@@popeyedoyle6360 He got laid which triggers all the virgins in the cartoon community
@@johnd3233 With little girls
Never could stand Kirk Douglas myself. I always turn the channel if I see him in a movie but ever since I saw John K's take on him I think I'll see him in a totally different light.
So Ren is Kurt Douglas
@The Queen Kurumi Gotcha
*Nods*
Pretty much, especially when he yells under those sessions with Billy west
@@danielgudinojuarez6729 More like Peter lorre ren is like Peter lorre
Jesus Christ...
Lord Stan...
I recently news about Drake Bell sent me back to this clip and the clip about the Man's Best Friend episode and someone said this in Alexis Nikolas Eat Predators Channel in the comments that they saw Drake Bell as both a Victim and an offender and i kind of see the same when it comes to John K.
Drake Bell is innocent and John K was the heart and soul of the show. It died when he left and the reboot is a disgusting frankenstein of a creation.
Alot of whiners in this comment section
What are you talking about? Most of the comments I've seen here are people sympathizing for John due to his abusive childhood,
Express his experience in his characters dont turn John abusive. Just generate situations for his characters that correspond to a lot of abusive people. Ren being abusive dont make any apology to be legal to be that way. Just show as a abusive person can be. And can help people to recognise the situation in their life and try to avoid and react properly
What documentary is that
Happy Happy Joy Joy: The Ren & Stimpy Story
john has wacky shelves
so damn funny
John's problem was he didnt make friends with the executives. The abuse if minors hasn't stopped, those involved simply play ball, and throw their lot in.
Imagine if he was inspired by Nicholas Cage, lol
So they took influence from Michael Douglas‘s dad
But I’m sorry for him
Why does John K still have old toys
Why do I NOT have my old toys?
Answer: Because my mom's a piece of shit. :-D
He is a cartoon artist, maybe for inspiration :D
Being an inveterate manchild is perhaps Kricfalusi's 378th biggest flaw
He probably keeps the things that reminds him joyfull moments of his childhood in contrast to the fear and anger of a posible traumatic youth.
Older toy designs (especially those from the 1950s/60s) are incredible for inspiration. It was the atomic era of design, innovative illustration, architecture, automotive design, fashion, film, etc. Also, those are the toys he grew up with, and they probably remind him of everything that was good about his childhood.
His dad was Jerry Seinfeld?????
He wish
Who is Kirk Douglas? He sure love to yell and get into the attention of grief a lot!
John k is cool dude
I try really hard to separate the artist from the creep. Just like Ted Nugent or Wagner. Hell, we all grew up on The Cosby Show for cripe's sake.
I don't hate him, I loathe him! John! You're so rude to Billy West, Robyn Byrd, and Katie Rice!
Ok zoomer
Downgrading Kricfalusi's acts of pure psychopathy to "rudeness" is the most autistic thing I've seen all week
@@viemarirunoa it's the god dam truth
you are so right pal 😎😎😎
@@viemarirunoa He's right though. It's been confirmed for a long time.
Say wut u want.. but that license plate read Canada... (At 2:23) So yea.. wasn't us good buddy.. that was them over there, jus sayin, our traumatic ppl came with music (prince, mike j, ali, MLK) our trauma made the world stand on its toes, jus sayin.. I don't argue on YT, I jus explain the facts 😂 u guys shoot up whole places of innocent ppl here when u have trauma, and say Chicago.. that one place vs every school or anywhere else for that matter 😂😂😂
I'm the only one who think Robin is lying? Something is not right here.. , the girl had a huge trauma because of John, that's why she wanted to cancel the restart of the show a few years ago and now she was able to work as a creative consultant for the new reboot that she wanted to cancel a few years ago ? Don't you guys feel that something stinks here?
I don't believe Robin, this was planned in advance, but I don't understand why she lied and why she wanted to cancel the reboot if she is now working for the reboot !
Don't get me wrong we know what kind of person John is, but I don't believe Robin either! Remember how much did Robin insist that young girls should be protected from this show and Ren and Stimpy and now she's working on the reboot? What a big liar she really is!
People in this industry do anything for money, it's not shocking to me. I don't think she lied but more so lost any morality once she saw how much the pay would be.
@@gingeralice3858 I think she lied Nobody forced Robin to live with him and put up with him in the first place , we lived in different time , then no one had hysterics because of age differences in the past. Robin's parents also have a lot of responsibility not just john , even Robin's parents agreed that an older man is dating their own daughter in the 90s, many older celebrity's had 16-year-old girlfriends, why are we crying now when the movie stars used to have unlimited dates with younger ones..
I still don’t feel bad for John K. I hate him AND his father.
This is why cycles of abuse need to be broken. You become just as bad as those that hurt you.
Don’t feel bad :) feel thankful he made an impact on you :)
English is my second language
Surely everybodys parents are the same - John is just telling (possibly "over-telling/selling") it from his point of view. Everybody gets told off, always and forever.
I think that wimpy internet moaning idjits simply turn all this stuff into something it's not - make it more dramatic, so they can be more justified and "outraged" at John K... read nearly every comment on this video alone to see what I'm speaking of.
"LiL'JpD."
That's the kinda shit abuser-apologists and fake "alpha males" say to justify their own coping with the world around them. Nothing you say makes sense.
Sure, everyone's parents may have been the same, but most of them didn't grow up with such behavior like John K. Even before the internet became such a big thing, people who knew John K or worked with were outraged at him for his behavior. You can search up multiple official sources of John K being a terrible person towards others even before his allegations of sexual assault were confirmed.