2004 Porsche 911 40th Anniversary: The 996 Sweet Spot? / Modern Classic Review
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- This is an honest and detailed review of the Porsche 911 40th Anniversary Edition, also known as the 40 Jahre. A relatively less known model that was a contemporary of the popular 996 Carrera 4S, but offering more power, less weight and a sharper focus. Half way to the GT3 it was said at the time… could this be the sweet spot in the 996 range for the modern classic collector?
0:00 Introduction
1:23 What was special about it?
2:27 Performance
3:13 Driving
8:12 Usability
9:43 Ownership
14:45 Summary
Other useful links:
1981 DeLorean vs 2004 Porsche 911: The Ultimate Rear-Engine Showdown
• DeLorean vs Porsche 91...
40 Jahre Registry:
www.40jahre911.com
/ 40jahre911
Mat Watson’s 996 experience:
• Porsche 911 996 in-dep... - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I have #1293 and I rarely even turn on my radio, I love the sound so much.
Love my 40AE. And it’s been my DD for over 2 years now. I’ve discovered a whole new driving relationship since moving from Chicago to Cali. Nothing like mountain driving to appreciate the incredible driving dynamics.
Thanks Andray - you’ve probably got some better roads nearer you than I do to enjoy the car properly!
It’s fascinating how the 997 GTS is a mix of the 964 and 996 anniversary cars.
Yes it basically is!! Successful recipe.
This video is the best I’ve seen of the 996. I like the quality of this video and the pictures that show the difference of a base and x51 package.
Thanks! There’s a lot of lazy coverage of the 996 and I wanted to put that right 👍
This was an amazing review. I own a 05 997 however i really want this one. its not that i dont ike mine but i just love the 996. The 996 anniversary has alot of things that make the car standout!
It really does!!
I love the kind of afterthought rear seats :D Gotta be sporty... with four lads in your machine!
Good to see you find time and energy for your passion, keep em coming!
Thanks :) To be honest the energy is hard at the moment (the amount of hair growth between the videos gives you an indication of how long it takes to get them done!)
@@RUNDMC1 Every day a step, i'm rooting for you!
Love the review. Keep up the good work
Hi Gez, we met at Eurotunnel this morning and the penny only dropped after I've got to France :-)... I've remembered watching a couple of your CZcams videos about a year ago and I was quite annoyed with myself for not recognising you straightaway since I really found your videos to be very good indeed.
Anyway, I just wanted to say hello and hope you've had a good trip to Germany. The DeLorean looks great, always loved the car, and it is nice to see how many people take photos and are genuinely interested in the car. I don't think there are many cars out there that can attract that kind of interest. By the way, your videos are really good, it would be nice to see more in the future, maybe on different cars? It was great chatting with you. Cheers, Lucas
Hi Lucas - great to meet you too! How random you’d already seen some of my stuff on CZcams.
The channel was originally intended to be about running and cars - unfortunately it ended up turning into something else! Once I recover I will definitely be getting back on the case though - got lots of cars I want to feature!
Hope your trip is going well too, and safe drive home again :)
Really great vid on the 996. Ive got a 99, so no PSE, PSM, or X51, and no glovebox, but hey, its a great car!
Thanks Henry! Who needs a glovebox anyway? You get to open your own frunk without a motor!
My dad has this car and he loves it. Thanks so much for this video
Great vid! I think this moved into my top 5 996 videos...well done!
Thank you Chris!
RUN-DMC - Nice review on the 996 theme ... However one question remains to me " unanswered “ as roughly in every 996 vid when it comes to IMS failing rates !...
We all hear numbers starting from 1% going through 3% ... 5% ... 8% ... ending at 10% depending on reviewers ...
Now my point : Dedicated Porsche specialized magazines stated long ago that during the 996 worldwide career , a substancial number of owners have had their engines " replaced " during a regular service without the dealers in question having told a single word to the owners ( supposedly future potencial failure prone engine detected during diagnosis ) ... so , these are costumers which are convinced until today they have the original engine but ... " they have not " !... Most of these engines " would have " failed at some point sooner or later , right ?
So my ultimate question :
On which of all these " rates " that number of engines ( the ones explained above ) are also included ?... 1%?... 3%?... 5%?... 8%?... or 10% ?...
From a 2003 996 C4S owner also " worried " with its IMSB !... 👍
just got a millenium edition (2000 C4) with 165k miles and this video is spot on. ive been loving the slow in fast out style. every curve an opportunity for some fun! thanks for the 996 love!
Rare - nice!!
Finally have my first 911, a 2003 manual C2 in silver with boxster red leather, and I absolutely love it. Every journey feels like an event and it's just a great experience behind the wheel. Hopefully it will be with me for years to come. Enjoyed the video - thank you.
Your car sounds sweet! Enjoy that flat six!
That’s a great color combo!
Love the review... Wayyy overdue by the citizens of Planet Earth. Thank you for stepping up! Oh, yeah, I just completed the purchase of one today! Began the negotiations with the dealer a little over a week ago, PPI was completed yesterday, and today I took delivery! I previously owned a 997 Turbo years ago (a 2008, haven't owned it since 2012...) and when I decided to get a new 911, I set my sights on the 40AE because it is such an understated N/A 911, with just the right amount of spirit! (For me, anyway...) Cheers!
Nice! Are you in the UK?
@@RUNDMC1 US.. Washington state! Our Porsches come equipped with the Steering Column Power Kit, which relocates them to the proper side of the car. Cheers! :-)
Great Video of a great car ! This is going to skyrocket in price soon, but I would never keep it as an investment but as a really beautiful car to drive ...
Thanks Jeppe!
My new fav channel mate.
Thanks David! Should be getting some more car stuff up soon 👍
Good to have met you in Belfast last week. Great review.
Thanks! I got some of that G-Techniq G4 for my Targa on your recommendation - it’s done a cracking job :)
Love my 996!
Fantastic review of the 40 Jahre! My Dad has one and it really is just as great as you describe it.
Nice! How long has he had it for?
@@RUNDMC1 He bought it last July
Nice video man 👏
Thank you!
Great job on reviewing car. You got all the important details covered.
Thanks!
It really has same HP as a base 2014 carrera!I just updated suspension on mine (bilstein b6 + HR springs + 1” drop in ride height) and it drives better than when new. In USA it is not as rare as UK so it may not fetch as much of a premium, but at least price is no longer going down on these.
Great video, keep up the good work like this and then you will have a lot subscribers
Thank you! Been busy with making films about covid recently but got some more car stuff in the works :)
Great video 👍🏼
Thank you Jason!
I love how you comment on things outside of the car lol
I am a fellow UK owner of a 40th Anniversary. Love mine. It's all the car you need for fast road fun and the occasional track day and a great 911 to my mind.
Yes, agreed! Still not got mine to a track though 🙈
Great video. I loved mine. I remember back in ‘04, the MSRP was 91,xxx.xx. My dealer offered $10k off MSRP. I was intrigued by the special features of the 40 AE. Great memories. Well done. I kept (still have) the wallet & suitcase. Cheers/B
Well done on hanging onto that luggage - worth plenty these days!
Want to sell the luggage etc? Keen to purchase.
great video!
Thanks Garth!
996 is such a nice car.
Started with the Targa and sold it for a Turbo.
Nice!
Finally a detailed review. I own #602. Sadly it doesn't have the U.S. spec dealer installed sport exhaust switch. I do worry about the IMS as it has not been replaced. I've had it for 2 years and have 65,000 miles on it.
If I were you I wouldn’t worry about the IMS. Take a look at it when you get the clutch replaced, if that’s not been done already.
Excellent review !👍🏻
Thank you! I see you have a 996 too despite the username? :)
Have a watch of the DeLorean vs 911 film on my channel too if you like Porsches :)
RUN-DMC
Yeah mate , got a 2001 996 3.4
I love it 👍🏻
RUN-DMC
👍🏻
Love your motor. Makes a change from Covid. I guess you’re a fan of Harry’s Garage....
Was watching it last night in fact :) 👍
Great video. I have the base 3.6 996.2 C2 and love it. I’m sure the 40AE is even nicer with the X51, LSD and M030.
It’s a bit tighter with some more zip at the top end. Love the standard C2 too though! Cable throttle manual 996.1 is also 🔥 but when I started looking it was for 996.2s and then saw this 40AE come up :)
Stumbled across this and thought 'whoa, isn't this the Long-COVID guy?!' ... as a fellow car enthusiast in recovery myself, I hope you are doing well and I hope we can both get back to the track soon.
Thank you Keith! That’s a random roundabout circle that brought you back here!
@@RUNDMC1 No kidding. The whole COVID experience got me thinking 'I should probably pull the trigger on those dream cars sooner than later' .. thus looking into what the 996 is like. I test drove a 996.2 4S and it felt pretty tired / heavy. Maybe a C2 is the better way to go. Either way, I hope you're doing better with your recovery.
Keith Price thanks Keith! Yes there’s quite a few tired 996s out there these days. Defo worth finding a good one!
Covid is entirely a deception. I hoped most people would have worked that out by now.
Cool number plate!
Thanks! When you know, you know :)
Guess i'm the guy who's IMS went pop at 60k then....Still its now been treated to a 3.9 Hartech rebuild with a dyno'd 365hp/ 335lb ft
Sorry to hear that - that’s really bad luck. Great shout with the 3.9 Hartech conversion, that’s one desirable car now!
I have to see iff I have that engine sport sound button...never knew
Depends if the PSE was specified from new. Not all cars got it, sadly.
@@RUNDMC1 Yup, I dont have it. My Jahre is in xlnt shape with 22K miles, so I am just keeping it totally stock for resale value.
John Doe that’s spectacularly low miles. How long have you had the car for?
@@RUNDMC1 I bought it last December on "Bring a Trailer" for $42K. One just sold last week for $43 but generally the range is about 35K to 45K. Its a great site for watching live auctions of mostly special cars. My car still smells like a new leather jacket when I get in it.
Great video very informative. I wonder if you could give me some idea I want that car is worth today? I am pursuing one now, it has50,000 miles on it, and the IMS and rear main seal have been done, As well as the fly wheel.
Hi Tom, depends what country you’re in! You can get a good cross section of values in different places by looking at the cars for sale on the 40 Jahre Registry.
A long hauler here enjoying your videos. Where can I get a doctor like you! I own a VW Golf R32 that I am unable to drive with the fatigue at present. Keeps me positive to get better thinking of a nice drive. Take care
Hi Frank, thanks for watching the car stuff too! I want to get some more of that out but it takes longer to make and I don’t have the energy at the moment!
There were 3 generations of 996/997 IMS bearings. 1st, 1999-mid 2000(double row) 2nd,mid/late 2000-mid 2005(thin single row), 3rd, mid 2005- 2008(wider stronger single row). Most problems were with the 2nd gen.
Bore scoring now exceeds IMS for engine destruction according to IMS fix vendor Flat 6 Innovations. Second negative item is the severe shortage of 3.6 L blocks, the earlier 3.4 has an advantage there although most of those lack the torque you really want to feel when driving alone.
@@computerhelpcc My 2006 Cayman S is a very satisfying car. Low weight, plenty of power and mid engine. Every time I think I want a 911, I get in it, get on the road and I come to my senses.
I test drove this car before I picked up my 996 turbo. I was really surprised how well it drove. The x51 package really made a difference. It's just too bad it only came in silver
What colour did you get your turbo in? :)
Well after looking at about 1000 silver and black cars, I found a cobalt blue turbo
Wait i think you have the pics of the headers mixed up.
I don’t think so! But it’s possible 🤣
What do you think about the turbo version?
The 996 turbo is a very nice car, especially as a manual. Bit pricier to run and a different kind of proposition as a driver’s car though.
Great video. However, with the 40 jahre now similar money to 997.2S that remedied common issues in the the 996/997.1, would you buy one over a 997.2S ? 🤔
Good question - horses for courses and I think a 997.2 C2S is still about £35k, so a bit more? For me it would depend on your use and length of ownership. I suspect the 40AE will hold it’s value better over a 10 year period, while the 997.2 will be the objectively ‘better’ road car.
In the US a 997.2S is currently worth around $50k plus. The 40AEs seem to trade around $35k.
The 40 Jahre is so much rarer than a 997 that its long term value is pretty much guaranteed to outstrip most models of 997
I have one with 22k miles in my garage under a cover
How are the wheels on it? Do you still have the chrome finish?
@@RUNDMC1 Wheels look like new.....I dont think they are chrome but are polished. its a gorgeous car and really powerful.
Sadly my 40 jahre does have bore scoring. It is more likely a problem if you live in cold weather which is my case
Hi Jonathan, sorry to hear about that. How many miles has your car done? Have you needed to take remedial action yet?
RUN-DMC my 40 jahre has done 68000 miles, for now I am just avoiding short trips, frequent oil change (twice a year) and avoid driving in cold weather. I am prepared for the day it needs rebuild though. Great video by the way, thank you for putting our cars on the map!
Sorry to hear that. Bore scoring is much more common on the 3.8L 997 cars as mentioned. Bore scope is mandatory if you are buying any 996/997.1.
Great video, really so informative........just bloody stupid sunglasses
Well at least someone noticed 🤣