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A full Test of the honda and champion 2000 watt generators to see if the champion is a good option for you at less then half the price of the new Hondas.
Champion 2000 watt generators come standard with a 3 yr limited warranty same as honda.
I mentioned I wanted to test the Sine Wave but I currently do not have a Oscilloscope To check the sine wave. But Champion is very addiment about there inverter gens and all run 3% or less THD .
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Just depends what you want to run.
A fan and a fridge not much a whole house that can depend on size of house and things you want to run.
Great comparison very thorough I run the Honda 2000i myself ten years easy to maintain and happy with it . I have had bigger champion units 3500w used for work and long running days they hold up well. Maintenance is key for longevity. Thanks for your effort with all the variations informative for sure.
Thank you so much and thanks again for watching 😀👍🏼
Very good comparison, all bases are covered. I always wanted to compare the Honda to Champion, this video made decision choosing between the 2 a lot easier. Your hard is greatly appreciated.
Thank you so much and glad I could help you with a decision..👍🏼
Which one did you choose?
Excellent video! I have the Champion Inverter Generator (model 100306) myself. I bought it as a backup to my 22 year old 4KW Coleman Powermate generator. My thought process was to use the Champion at night to run the furnace (forced hot air propane) or my pellet stove. Other loads like lighting (virtually all LED) and some electronics don't add up to all that additional load. During summer months, the unit should easily carry the fridge on eco mode and run about 10 hours per gallon.
That little champion is great super light and quiet.
Had a master electrician install a 15 amp inlet outside the home and its wired to its own dedicated outlet inside. The Champion has saved the day during the occasional power outage running refrigerator, fans, Internet and tablets. Its good knowing it can handle a microwave. Thanks.
Awesome, glad it’s working good for you. Decent little gen ..👍🏼
Thanks for watching 😀
My family is using one Honda generator since 1985, and it's still running very well!!!! Never had any problem and never had any maintenance.....
Same here although I do change oil and spark every now and than got my Yamaha in 1994 Honda and Yamaha are number 1. Parts are available if needed
I own the champion. It exceeds my expectations.
On a full tank it will run a 5,000btu a/c, Frigidaire 48#/day ice maker, 15" Edison powered speaker (volume up), several led lamps, and over 4 wall adapters.... Over 10 hours!
Wow that’s great. It’s a good unit, compact and light..👍🏼
I commented previously. Another good video. I am a Champion buff and like to see the comparisons. There is one thing I want you to check out.... You showed the parallel kit for the Champion. The one you show is for an older model that required the data cable. The new Champion does not require the data cable. At least I don't see an attachment point. Double check that.
I noticed, the Honda drops the voltage as the load increases.
Thanks again for a great comparison!!!!
Thank you for watching. And yes the parallel adapter was demonstration only, as that was not the correct one but did have that one on the shelf so used it as a example.
Yea surprised the Honda allows such voltage drop which pending how you are using it could maybe harm some electronics. Surprised it doesn’t shut off sooner.
Thanks again for watching 😀👍🏼
Another great comparison. Thanks Johnny.
Thanks Bill 👍🏼
Nice Video. Recently purchased a Champion Dual Fuel. Its been running great thus far.
Nice. I like dual fuel when you can get them.
With the current events of the last year and the hacking of pipeline, meat packing ect. I just picked up the champion duel fuel it was in our budget.I hope we never need it. But for now I will stock about 3 weeks fuel just incase.Anything event that long or longer and we are in real trouble anyway.Thanks for the review.
Your welcome and good choice on the dual fuel it really will be the way to go in the long run I think.
Even better at altitude
Great comparison! And good summary at the end. I'm very excited for the new Predator 9500 Inverter gen that just came out, from Harbor Freight. There aren't many youtube video reviews on it yet. With your detailed analysis, you would sure get a lot of views!
Thank you, I’m looking at that one so will see when I can maybe grab one...😀👍🏼
Yea I looked at it. Nice but spendy. A lot of power though.
Wow now that is crazy...!!
Dang feel bad for ya lol.
Have to make a 100k easy it seems to be comfortable
Ok well not so bad. And happy retirement 👍🏼
I've ran my champion for an avg of 3 hours a day everyday for 3 years. Still does great
Wow that’s awesome, glad it’s holding up great. If you take of stuff they normally last.
Believe it or not that is very good info. No doubt the Honda is the Cadillac of generators but I have been looking at Champion and it is something I will not use very much at all. Reliability has always been front and center of my concerns. Your comment saved me from hearburn. For $640 I can buy a 2300w Champion with propane and to do the same with a Honda 2200W I have to add $260 for propane. Why propane. If the SHTF gasoline will disappear immediately buy propane less so. Also propane does not go bad when stored.
For the price of the Honda and propane conversion I could have two Champion dual fuel gens and money left over.
So true. And less problems with the carburetor having issues plus altitude changes as well…👍🏼
Hey man I have a question, how long do you think it will power a tailgate? First time looking into these things and I would like to know how long they last without having to refuel
@@ulyssesdiaz1913 11 hours @ 25% power on 1 gal of gas
I own 6 champion generators. 2X 2000w inverters with parallel , 1 X 6500w , 1 X 1200w and a 4500 inverter. all work great amd have never let me down.
Love champion, great brand of you don’t go with Yamaha or Honda.
I don’t here many complaints ..😀👍🏼
I just picked up a champion 2500/1850 dual fuel inverter generator for 349.00
I've been breaking it in and on my 2nd oil change after the first few hours of running. Seems solid and well built. Wanted a Honda but not paying that price for it.
That’s good unit. They seem to do well I don’t hear much as far as bad reviews.
And dual fuel is nice.
@@johnnysweekends its been said all these 79 or 80cc generators are manufactured by Ducar with only slight variation in output panels and color schemes and sold under 2 dozen brand names like, Cummins, Onan, Ford, Champion, Predator, iPower,. Westinghouse, and so on....
Correct there are a few manufactures. Senci, rato, liphan, dinkin and more. All utilize Yamaha mz80 clones or older Honda gx line engines. But some are better than others but not by much.
Your paying for slightly better electronics and customer service and warranty.
And of course cool options.
Decent review. I've had two 3300W running Champion generators, one King Canada 5500W running, a PowerFist 2 stroke 800W (sold under a number of brands, some may have seen them at Harbour Freight in the US) and a United Power 1200 W peak. I haven't had a Honda generator yet but I hope to. I have an assortment of Honda equipment like lawn mowers, a trimmer, couple of snow blowers, a 21 inch tiller and one GX160 engine on a small 1980s Toro snow blower. My current units are the 5500 King Canada and the United Power.
You have a decent selection, add the eu2200i, it’s a beast and just purrs.
Wish it was a 2500 but it’s a beast and you can find them used here and there for a great price
Honestly two great generators one for super reliability and the other at a value price that actually has customer service and warranty.
It says it has 53 db. I mite try it a room that isn't used and vent it out. We don't have a garage.To keep attention down. Its just for the frezzer and fans and ham/ weather radio or camping. I wanted to save for solar. But just don't want wait another month or two. Things happen to quick now.Thanks again.
I really do not recommend using it in a room. A porch or front patio or something not near air intakes is better then a room but it’s recommended to be at least 15-20 feet from the house.
Just bought a champion today thanks for the video I wasn’t sure if the choice I had made lol
They are good gens with basic care and just don’t abuse it lol… congrats.
Be sure to run it once a month unless you do long term storage 👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends I have an open frame Westinghouse WGEN3600 I'm saving for emergencies. It has no fuel, but does have oil. Should I start it up now and then?
If there is no fuel in it technically you winterized it. So I’m theory it should be ready to go once fuel is added.
But for other odd reasons there are times when items with engines after they sit for years will sometimes not run or not run correctly..🤷♂️
I have never had a item with a engine sit for more then maybe a couple years and that’s my chainsaw. Everything else I fire up once in a while. But I’m a motor guy so I like to run things.
And most people always say to to run generators once in a while.
But again I have seen things fire up that are years old and haven’t ran in years and maybe a tune up and they are good to go.
So in all do what you think will work for you. If you wanna run it every six months do it. But make sure to drain the fuel if letting it sit for a long time.
@@johnnysweekends I appreciate the reply. I suspect what you said is spot on. In theory, it'll be fine sitting with no fuel. In reality, it's probably better to run than not to run. I think I'll figure out how much fuel it needs to run a couple hours and do that a couple times every year.
Awesome video. I learned some things 👏🏽
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Great comparison thanks for sharing
Your welcome thanks for watching 👍🏼😀
My dad has the champion, it s a solid machine. I’m partial to my eu2200
They are both great and that champion is light and quiet… kinda crazy really.
Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀
Great comparison thanks
Your welcome …👍🏼
One thing that is not mentioned in many tests is perceived loudness based on tone. The honda's tend to have a lower tone and even if the db rating is the same they can be less annoying. I have bought several inverter generators for myself and family recently and I like to employ my wife and son to turn their back as I run generator A and then compare to generator B and ask which one they feel is the quietest. Its a good way to get a non-biased opinion.
I like this....👍🏼
Honda FTW!
You have a very nice wife for indulging you! hahahaha
I've got the champion, I honestly forget it's running when I'm using it. It sounds like some one A few blocks away is mowing. They're both way better then a open frame.
The little champion units are not bad options for the price. Kinda hard to beat.
"The Honda just keeps going"
That's Honda for you. Gonna be forking out for a EU2200I pretty quick here in an attempt to live off grid. Itty bitty backup gen for solar..
Love my little 2200 and maybe it will have life again depending how my battery systems go and more. Just not big enough for the really hot days and more for a 15k ac.
I got a much smaller trailer so I don't expect to have any issues running AC off both this smaller gen and solar. Only other thing I'd want to do with the gen is a propane conversion. Having found a kit online for that this seems like the perfect unit for my use
great review , thanks
You’re welcome 😀
I got my champion 2500 man love it 😍 half price of Honda !!!!
That’s a good gen. Looking at a 2500 my self.
Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀
i have run a Champion 2000w inverter generator 16 hours daily for the last 3 years and they're constantly clogging up if you run it in eco mode for too long. Additionally, shutdown in eco mode or even shutting it down on high might make it hard to start back up if you don't use the fuel valve to do so - that's after hundreds of hours of runtime. All generators are pretty good for a little while but it's only after 500hours that you really see the reliability.
the Honda EU2200i I just obtained is tuned to run in Eco mode.
Some of these generators are set rich. Also if always on eco running low loads your generator is never building enough heat. Which In turn will build carbon up and foul your plug quicker. So you may need to change it more often.
Pull your plug and see what it looks like. And maybe run it off eco mode once in a while to build some heat.
Nice vid thank you
Your welcome..👍🏼😃
There's no beer in that fridge 😅
It would get all warm…. Plus it’s gone..😉
Here in the U.K. the Honda is £1400 the Champion is £429 that’s a huge difference I couldn’t justify unless I was after a generator to run all day every day ! ( £1 = $1.25). Even then I could buy three Champions for the price of one Honda.
Wow that is a big difference. Yea it just doesn’t seem to make sense anymore. I loved my Hondas but for what I need and now the amount im using them, the other options in the long run just seem better. The eu2000 was a beast. Just not enough watts.
We just had six days with no power in Austin. That 2kW Champion saved us thousands of dollars as it ran two refrigerators, only stopping two times in six days. One day it ran out of gas as I overslept. Second time, I stopped it after three days to change oil. We also had 3kW inverting Champion which we used for heater and for me to log in to work. 3kW was somewhat overkill though, much louder and harder to move around. After ordeal I bought Honda 2200i Companion. Having two smaller ones and one back up makes me more comfortable. Couple years ago there was similar situation but, we were not affected. They can also be used for camping or some land we own with no utilities. The only think irritating is getting some misterious oil leaks that I couldn't locate. They come and go. I thought I maybe overfilled but I'm careful.
Yea champion has a good products, but that model did have a several units that would leak oil from the cases.
Try a thicker oil
Curious, it sounds like you were happy with the Champion 2000; if yes, why did you buy a Honda 2200? It seems if gf Champion works fine a person might buy a second one and link them.
Curious, is I am debating whether to save a few $$ and buy the Champion or cry once and spend a bit more to get the Honda…
Thanks!
The older champion 2000 units were nice and most held up well from responses.
The newer champion 2500 or even DF is a little work horse and a great choice..👍🏼
@@richarde1355 If I didn't have critical need to keep refrigirators running, I would just go with Champion. You can buy two and still be ahead of one Honda. Champion also has great US based customer support. I called them couple times with questions for my other generator. The reason I bought Honda is that after reading some comments from technicians who maintain small generators that are being used and abused and they all pretty much say that long term Honda is way better than any other off brand. I'm finding some small metal shavings in oil of Champion which doesn't give me much confidence. My experience with Honda engines (car and motorcycle) is that they are cleanest of other comparable engines after same usage (I had bunch and still do). Also, Japanese electronics beat all other. Since money is not an issue at this point in my life and having critical need, I'm more comfortable with Honda. I see very rare need to run them together. Even on my travel trailer I installed Easy Start gadget so, I can run A/C (13.5k btu) with single 2000W gen. The oil leaks on two of my Champs are puzzling though.
@@oknevals thanks! I’m with you. I’m buying this for my RV, and perhaps in an emergency need at home; the dual fuel option of the Champion is alluring. I’m a big of fan of Honda, Toyota, Subaru, etc. - the Japanese seem to do it right. My girlfriend and I have a Toyota Tacoma and a Subaru Outback - we are partial to Japanese equipment because it’s reliable and designed well.
Thanks god bless
I own a slightly older model of the Champion you tested and it is a great generator but I don't expect it to last like my Honda model (EU6500). But for someone who wants a decent generator, I feel it is a good purchase and especially for someone with only casual use, the price makes it even more attractive. Resale value wont be like the Honda; however, it's cheap enough as it is. I think the Champion line is better than most of the Chinese built ones. I also know parts are available quite easily so that's a plus as well
Honestly, I haven’t seen any REAL evidence of a Honda lasting appreciably longer than these alternatives from the likes of Champion, Predator, etc. it’s mostly people commenting and making assumptions based on nothing more than the Honda name and reputation.
@@jabroni6199 I couldn't have said it better myself. There are also brands like Firman, INGCO, TOTAL, EMTOP, champion that can outlast any Honda if they're well maintained. Every 4 stroke generators either diesel (Yanmar, Perkins, Kubota, Isuzu, Caterpillar, Volvo Penta, John Deere, Cummins, Iveco) or petrol (INGCO, CHAMPION, HONDA, RYOBI, Tailgator, Yamaha, stormcat) , they're meant to outlast any 2 stroke engines and are nearly bulletproof with proper maintenance.
A well maintained Yamaha or Honda will outlast a well maintained Yamaha or Honda clown...
Not only the engine but the inverters on Yamaha/Honda units are more robust...
I own genuine and clone gensets..
@@jabroni6199 I lived off one in the high desert for over 4 years. Used 80% of everyday. It was a beast!
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Hi great detailed video just wondering have you ever ran those load tests on the 2500 watt Champion?
I have not but I do recommend the champion 2500 dual fuel when looking for a small unit. Good little gen
Strange I watched your video with the champion 2000 watt on the load test and you managed to get it up to 1800 watts before it shut down, then I watched another guy doin a similar load test on the Champion 2500 watt on gas setting and only managed to get it up to 1900 watts . I figured the 2500 would run a little higher in comparison?
The 2000 is 1600 running watts and 2000 start. The 2500 is 1800 running watts and 2500 start. Basically like to fire up ac units.
Honda is doing what is called brownout...Letting the output voltage sag to limit output power, and its working! Now if i can find a slightly used one selling for the Champion price...
I see decent deals for used gens all the time. Under normal circumstances I would never buy a new one unless I wanted the warranty but since I can work on them they are easy to fix and can be had for cheap.
I just sold used 2honda i2000. And bought 2 NEW champion 2500s. Still have a few hundred left over
Those little champions are great. Did you get dual fuel or just regular. Which I assume your going to parallel?
Do you have a build video or component list for that DIY meter?
Currently I do not. So busy with our projects plus full time work. It’s just what ever I get prioritized
Can't beat Honda for reliability
When are you gonna test out the newer Champion Dual fuel 2500 gen?
I was looking at it again. I ordered it a while back and shipping got cancelled due to a shipping problem. It just never arrived so the order cancelled. Never reorder after that.
But I should take a look again because it is a nice little unit just wish the 2500 models would step up the engine cc a little verses staying with the same 80cc Yamaha clone engine. Even the old Honda 2000 ran a 98.5cc engine.
I’m sure it’s a good unit. Although curious the propane output. Hmmm🤔
Johnny Have you ever done a test to connect 2 parallel champion 2000?
Just to see how well they do..?
I did with a friends and they did fine for the loads we put them on such as Rv ac unit. For the size and weight they are pretty hard to beat. Simple units, light and do well.
The newest models have gotten a pinch bigger.
Great video! Looking for my first inverter generator and have my eyes set on the Champion 2000 since I'll only need to use it for emergencies.
You should do a video on long term storage for those of us that don't run them often.
For the price of the little 2000 for about a hundred dollars more you can get the 2500 dual fuel. Which now you have a propane option! 👍🏼 there is a limited time deal. And I could make a video… I’ll do it as a back burner one si have others in line.
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It's best if you run anything with an engine once a month.
It's easy. Run it to fuel exhaustion. Then there's a little screw on the bottom of the carb bowl. Loosen the screw 3 turns and any fuel left in the carb will drain out. Simple, and takes 5 minutes or less.
I wonder if u can do the propane kit on the champion like the Honda that would make the champion a better buy for sure if it’s doable
Yup they make kits for a lot of these…👍🏼
Honda gets all the way up to 18,5 amps and stays there and after 2100 watts load the voltage drops below 110V. Champion is really limited to 1800 watts as it shuts off very quickly after that level. The amps are at 15,5A and voltage 115V. It seems the Champion is set to higher cutoff voltage than the Honda. You mentioned that the Honda is promised to run at max 2000W level for about 20 minutes. Test numbers support that, at least it can easily go over the continuous 1800W level without problems. As Champion cutoff was at lower load, it probably did not push the engine to the limit thus resulting to slightly lower noise levels. Your test has a slight error there - you should have compared the noise at equal loads rather than close to the cutoff point. One thing to consider is the engines in the generators. Champion seems to use a Chinese manufacturer's Chongqing Dinking Power Machinery Limited's 79 (80) cc engine. Chinese small engines are notorious for poor reliability, serviceability, availability of parts etc. With Google search sellers for the carburetor in that engine pop up, which to me suggests it is a common spare part for that engine. Honda, well it is Honda and is known for reliability and part availability globally. The 2000i has a 98,5 cc engine, which probably will be less strained then the smaller Champion engine at equal load levels. For people looking for a new generator like I am, the Honda has now the 2200i, which has the 121 cc engine. Honda also has much better service features such as easy setup for long time storage. Champion is old school with several mechanical procedures required to get the generator ready to be stored. I prefer the reliable, easy to use and maintain equipment. And as my dad used to tell me: "A poor man cannot afford to buy cheap".
Well they do have a new champion and of course new Honda. Although champion still using a 80cc Yamaha clone engine the Honda now uses the newer gx120 at 121cc.
I wish I did do the test a little different but was still playing around with how I wanted to do it…
Thanks for the comment though and thanks for watching
@@johnnysweekends Just went and bought the Honda EU2200i. Thanks you for your video, it did help me make up my mind as I did the digging to find out more about Champion.
Nice, the 2200 really is a nice unit and just purrs…👍🏼
Hi Johnny, I have the Westinghouse 2500 ,I would like the Westinghouse 4500. Would I be able to parallel the two?
Yea you can watch one of my newer videos where I parallel two Hondas of different size and explain and show what they are doing. 😀👍🏼
So you made a video on paralleling theses 2 generators? The 4500 takes a different plug for paralleling than the 2500.
I did not make a video for these two specifically.
@@ryanmcgraw8478 I saw a video where they paralleled the igen 2500 to the 4500 with one cable and no adapters! Westinghouse generator of course. The parallel cable is sold on Amazon for 50 bucks
Considering this Champion or jumping up to the 2500 Champion.What brand would you choose for home power outage and occcasional camping trip?Would only need to run Resi fridge and coffee maker.
I use the Champion 2000 W twice for back up power and it handled my refrigerator, modem for Internet, and two fans. I unplug everything and only run the coffee maker or microwave separately on the generator.
Just purchased the Champion 2000. I did the 5 hour break in procedure. Chamged the oil and went to charging. I could only get 1200watts out of it when charging through the victron multiplus. Changed the setting parameters from 20amp coming through the charger to 17amps. No change. Ran it both Eco on and off. During the 4 hours of charging it would idle down and back up 3 different times. Not sure why the limitation.
That’s odd. Did you try running something else..? Maybe a hair dryer or other item that don’t have dining that may control input load??
If it doesn’t work correctly you may want to exchange it
@@johnnysweekends Thank you for the response. I turned on every light all LED, ac fan only, both vent fans on high. I did see a spike up to 1440 for about 3 seconds as the generator ramped up but then immediately back to 1200. My Victron converter/charger 12/3000/120 is constantly putting only 66amps average into my batteries. Tried the air conditioner 20amp coleman with no spike or change.
Going to echange it whenbwe get back home for the 2500 and try that.
Sorry, no hair dryer. Maybe when i get home.
Yea for a slight more amount of money the 2500 is a nicer buy I think.
Dual fuel even better..👍🏼
If you‘re charging batteries (via multiplus) it’s normal that current drops towards the end. especially if you have lead acid batteries (higher internal resistance). the charger regulates the current/voltage according the charging state. high current + low voltage at the bulk phase, low current + high voltage at the absorbing phase.
I really want one of those.. most likely champion because its less expensive lol,,,, i got a yamaha ef2600 open frame, im kinda worried if that generator isnt safe for my 55” tv and other stuff, it was a 2nd hand genny, so i dont got the manuel
You could probably find the manual online somewhere.
But the little champion is nice because it’s light and for recreational and light duty use it will be fine.
What would y’all recommend for an air fryer that’s rated at 1460watts it’s the ninja foodi pressure cooker steam fryer with smart lid
2500 watt minimum so your not always running the unit in a high rpm range.
@@johnnysweekends ok that’s what I was thinking but wasn’t sure because every where was showing something different and thanks for getting back to me so soon
No problem and thanks for watching 👍🏼😀
Is the champion worth using for catering truck which will run 8 hrs aday ? Please if you could advise me.
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Well it depends. I think champion is great for there customer service and warranty but how much power do you need?? Because you may need a bigger model or maybe two of these. Just depends how much power you need.
After doing this for a while and seeing all the feedback I have heard problems with all of them.
One thing with owning a business is the need for write offs so you could buy a more expensive brand. Only problem people love to steal the little ones as they are easy to carry.
So in short answer yes champion would be fine but get a size where your not running it at 75% power and more the whole time.
@@johnnysweekends I use to use honda eu20i that use to run smooth and was enough power for the work I do .. I've heard good things about champion which it good on budget as well .. I think it might be fine. Thank you so much for replying I really appreciate it.
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Your welcome and thank you 🙏🏼 😁👍🏼
I use champion 3500 inverters there awesome!!! I’ve been using two in parallel in a ice cream truck 12 hours a day nonstop with no problem, I m going on three years and still running strong
Awesome love the feedback on real world use that’s more then just a weekend here or there.
Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀
im thinking about getting the champion one it will be for off grid use for a touring caravan, itll probably be used for 8-9 hours a day, every day for lights and 2 small tvs, would it be able to run that? is it wise to get one to be used every day? i dont know anything about generators. It has to be a silent one and small enough to move (which is why im thinking of going for the champion) any help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I would find the best deal you can with the most watts as there are always sales. Champion is one of the better models especially for warranty and customer service from viewers comments.
Some people here have ran there generators non stop for days only to stop them to change the oil. Service is key and also not running them at max or near max loads all the time. Most of the time the engines will run along time but the electrical is what fails.
Try for a 2500 watt or maybe even a little more if you can.
@@johnnysweekends I have a big briggs and stratton one that is perfect for the job but is far too loud, I was given it years ago and have never serviced it and it just seems to keep going!! I know nothing about generators or the electric side if things, all im guessing is the bigger the generator the more electric you get. I appreciate any help as Ive only got till thursday to find one!!
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I bought the 50 amp para kit and have not used it yet. Any suggestions?
Return it or sell it if you know you won’t use it. Once you sell it you know you’ll need it 😂👍🏼
I have a champion dual fuel and love it, Honda is better, but cost over twice as much as the Champion and I don't think it's twice as good or will last twice as long as the Champion, and even if it does out last 2 champions, in 5 to 7 years you can have an old Honda or a new Champion and by then I'm sure the new champion will be better and more efficient than an old Honda.
Telling me I should get the 4000 watt model
More is nice when needed
Which one has a fuel cutoff vavle?
Both of these units do not have a fuel shut off.
Running a microwave empty will destroy the microwave.
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I think the Honda has a fuel pump which allows it to use an auxiliary fuel tank.
Yes they have a auxiliary tank you can add on.
@@johnnysweekends That could be important for people wanting to run an AC all night.
True because the Honda comes with the smallest tank even the new one still has the same size at .95 gallons
If you plan on buying the Campion I need to warn you that the control units go bad. I am currently on my 2nd control unit replacement. Please also read the complaints filed with the BBB on Champion Power Equipment.
Is it just on that unit or several?
@@johnnysweekends it's on several of their units CZcams videos are mainly on the 2000 models.
For a long term and a hassle free generator go with the Honda.
Tough units to beat but surprised how many people have reported excellent luck with there champion units..👍🏼
So you can buy almost 3 Champions for the price of 1 Honda 3 is better than one in case it stops working. You have an extra and I might can hook 2 together
It’s true and champion is not a bad gen at all.
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More than three if you buy them right. Honda EU2200i runs $1,199.00 on Amazon and I never see it on sale. Champion does go on sale. I bought my 2000 watt for $346.
you failed to mention the motor cc's of the Champion compared to the Honda
Ill add to description. Champion is 79cc and honda is the gx100 at just over 98cc.
Champion models come with a planned design flaw and that is their starter recoil assembly. They are made completely of plastic and after a couple of months of daily cranking they break. Each time Champion USA was out of stock and I.had to order the replacement recoil assemblies from Champion CA. Finally I got so fed up, I leave the bolts out of the starter side cover and just wrap the rope out of one of the broken assemblies around the crank shaft and pull it like an old timey boat motor. I refuse to buy another since they only last a couple months of daily cranking. That's my 2 cents...
Thanks for the feed back.
Although not sure if it’s a planned fail as in more of a bad design that just didn’t work or last as long as they thought.
And champion doesn’t build the engines they source from China from a couple different lines. So possibly that line and that manufacturer just made a crappy engine hence Champion switched vendors
Not necessary to buy expensive adapter. Just make a cord w/2 male 20A plugs. Plug them into a receptacle on each, and you have doubled your current. Just don’t shock yourself ! You could even make a cable like that, but add a 30A female receptacle in the middle. You can save a lot of money.
Those aren't safe for the average Joe.. there's a reason they are called
Dead man's cord
Suicide cable
Noose rope
Lynch string
Etc... If you are going to make a male to male adapter like that.. you probably run your gensets WITH OUT the spark arrestors...
Will the champion run RV roof top a/c?
It depends which model champion and size of ac unit. If you have a soft start sure it could but like a 10k ac unit maybe.
The 2000 watt units normally can’t start ac units on hot days with out a soft start.
I bought this champion 2000 watt generator a few months ago. It will run my roof top air conditioner
If I start it on low fan, then low cool and gradually increasing to high cool . Once the a/ c is running
It will also run the t.v. And lights all at the same time while on eco mode. Great little generator!
Awesome thanks for the feed back!!
Glad you like the unit..!
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I use the 3200 watt champion inverter generator with my RV. No problem running the AC. However, I never tried the AC and the microwave together
Can you do a review of the dual-fuel 2500 Champion against the new Honda?
I have been looking at that one..👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends you're the man! Thank you for putting in all that work with comparisons. It's a huge deal for future potential buyers, like myself
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Yes! Please review a version of the 2500 watt Champion vs. the EU2200i. You do the best generator reviews and that comparison, like the comparison in this video, would be valuable to the RV community.
How many gallons of gasolin every hours?
The Honda is about 8.5 hrs at 1/4 load and champion 11.5 at same. Champion has smaller motor and larger tank.
Champions dual fuel is for me
They make good units..👍🏼😀
I cannot get more than 300 ml of engine oil in the Champion. Manual says 400 ml. Anyone else has this happening ? Unit perfect flat level, oil up to the last 2 threads of the hole. Also, the Champion is very quiet at idle UNTIL it warms up, then it's no longer quiet at all. The materials also have a strong chemical stench.
The manual is probably a miss print.
Not sure about it getting loud after.
Man full load is noisy. What is the max output at eco mode and the sound level?
what if power over shot at eco mode? I guess the eco will be automatically turned off. Will it come back to eco when the power goes back to lower?
Eco mode provides the same power as if it wasn’t on but when high loads come on quick the generator will do better if not on eco mode. I find 95% of people leave there generators on eco mode always so it can throttle back and forth as needed, and also save when when it can.
Not to mention it will be quieter
Johnnys Weekends yeah, rally wanna knowbthe noise level at different loads at eco mode. Free running noise level is just a lower limit.
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I wish people that are reviewing these would stop worrying about “Quiet & DB Rating” because there’s now several of these that are now Quiet Inverter Generators and of course there’s going to be a DB Winner, but that’s not important when you need the power and if you really need super quiet then you probably should be looking at a different path like all battery or solar. What usually ends up being the problem with one being quieter than the other is the plastic shroud that can easily be helped with some stick-on thermal insulation or a “Gen-Box” to cover the entire unit.
Just my thoughts…
People always find ways to make these even quieter. And again if you have it around grass or bushes, hopefully nothing dry or to close it will dampen the sound.
But when you need power you get what you need to get.
And as far as solar and battery the price just isn’t there yet. Getting there but not yet.
I have solar and batteries…👍🏼
Your assuming people are using them for emergency use. A lot of people use them for commercial and recreational where just a few decibels difference matters especially over the course of a day, or overnight. I like the decibel comparisons, because you can not tell from the video.
Champion all the way. A couple hunded watts sacrifice is nothing.
I have lots of positive feed back from people with champion ..👍🏼
Seeing 127 VAC on the Honda doesn't sit too well with me. Sensitive electronics and various appliances may not respond well to such a high voltage. Granted, the voltage does drop to a more reasonable level when a load' is placed on it... but, that initially high voltage is something to be concerned about.
Yea if only running a single item or two.
But never heard of to many problems with that voltage for most peoples day to day items.
The huge question is, how long would it last with non-stop constant abuse everday.
Take to long to find out….. but that’s why there is options one more for rec use and the other for heavy duty.
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The Honda would outlast the champion, plus he pushed the Honda a lot harder than the champion before it trip out. So you get what you pay for.
Honda will likely outlast the Champion, but considering the fact you can buy 2, and on sale 3 of the Champions, I am getting the Champion and going to just keep updating.
The Honda is really for mission-critical uses, for those of us casual and rare users, the Champion will be more than adequate - and we'll have the money to buy 1 or 2 more when it does finally die.
Yup and you can get a higher wattage model
@@mattropolis7857 :You would be surprised. There are CZcams videos of people that have run the Champion 2000 watt inverter generator for over 1000 hrs and they are still running well
I've been told that Champion has a Honda engine!!! Champion is lighter because its all plastic and cheaper made components...
It’s actually a copy of a Yamaha 80cc engine. Many of the small gens are Yamaha clones .
Still a decent engine and many companies copy it or purchase it from Yamaha, and then just put there name on it and install it in what ever.
Nothing wrong with lighter though.
Honda needs to lighten up the eu3000 thing is a tank and under powered for todays items.
@@johnnysweekends Thanks for your reply, its nice to learn something new ....I'll have to correct my buddy lol...
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The noise is a big problem. Invent a quiet engine....it's 2023 fgs.
I know, but I think there may be something hopefully in the coming months.
I had a Honda. It was junk. I'm looking for something else, and have heard good things about Champion.
If you are not gonna buy a Honda or Yamaha I normally recommend champion as they have a name for outdoor power equipment.
Although I have a champion, honda generators are not junk.
Just so you know the more hours you put on a generator the louder will be the Honda is definitely quieter then the champion after you run the champion for a couple hundred hours it will be about five decibels louder than the Honda you are comparing a generator that has been used enough to make it ten decimals louder then when it was brand as a generator gets used it will get louder as time goes on the Honda generator will go from 65 decimals to 75 decimals and the champion will go from approximately 70 to 80 I have done the same test with two generators brand new and then purchasing two more planned new and even having two more brand new for a total of six generators in the test the results are always the same
Id rather pay $450 then $1100 for a 5-10 decibel difference.
Both of these generators have over a hundred hrs… the Honda I believe has 300 ish and the champion maybe close to 200…. Pretty equal test
And I don’t believe they can increase 10….10 db or decibels btw as most only increase about 3 max from new if not even less as I’ve tested beaters and new.
Nice video, but you forgot to mention the commission you get on your links when someone buys a generator. Remember that only the Honda has replacement parts available. Only the Honda is a lifetime tool. Buy once, cry once. A mechanic with Chinese tools has three times the grief and aggravation as one with American tools. I've had a dozen Honda generators for over 30 years. Every cheap brand I've bought is in the garbage.
Yes parts for Honda seem to be really easy to get but many viewers have reported back that they have gotten replacement items for the champion model generators. Now can they get all items I don’t know but I hear really good things about their customer service.
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Many Hondas are manufactured in China too. And the old, unsubstantiated comments about reliability and parts availability don't cut it. I've owned very cheap Chinese ATVs that were readily repaired and serviced by the local small engine shop. My current Champion generator far outperforms the Yamaha it replaced. I guess if I paid the big bucks, maybe I'd be inclined to make those statements too. I dunno.
@@gwwj No Honda generators are manufactured in China. If I could only earn enough for junk tools, I'd consider another profession.
@EE GG actually not entirely accurate….. some are now manufactured in China, how ever a smaller percent, but I see that number changing thru the years possibly.
gwwj made in china does not mean amything as long as it is still honda and enforces honda standards. Like iphones are made in china but designed in CA, US. I havenet heard anyone complain iphone is low quality. It is really about the quality control instead of place of manufacturing.