JIM VENETOS COULD HELP ANYONE'S SWING
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- In my last video I introduced you to the Jim Venetos method which is completely different then conventional golf instruction. You might not want to completely adopt this philosophy as it is radically different but that doesn't mean you can't benefit from it. If you struggle with a weak slice or a steep path or poor ball striking then try practicing there's two Venetos swing keys and it will improve your own swing.
implementing part of this method could cure your slice, hook, thin shots or fat shots. hit the ball farther and straighter than ever before.
swing the Jim Venetos way and end up on the PGA tour!
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Very well said, thank you for the kind words. I’ll make a video of why I believe it’s difficult for some to keep their shoulders closed and I’ll post it here in your comments. Enjoy!
Jim Venetos Golf Academy I look forward to it!
@@migmatisgolf did I miss Jim’s video.......can’t seem to find it
Did Jim ever post this video???
An old dog cant learn the new tricks. However, I practised the Venetos swing and I highly recommend it. Getting the golf ball to go on the same trajectory time after time is the beginning of playable golf. Once you know where the ball will go, then you can manage the golf course. I found the Venetos swing method enabled me to hit very high tight draws with my wedges. But my long irons suffered. Good video. Thanks.
Paul Strohm I think if you persevered with the long irons they would come around. My personal opinion is that the further the weight on the end the stick is away from you the more the brain thinks it needs to used effort and muscles to get it back to the ball. The truck is to convince the brain that this is not the case. I believe this is kind of what Jim is achieving with stillness. I am willing to bet if you video yourself you are moving much more with the long irons than your wedges. Thanks for the comment.
I am a big fan of Venetos method. Keeps the swing simple! Also recently discovered Manuel de la Torre....another instructor who kept it simple!
What a great channel! Now I understand my former approach of trying to leave the shoulders behind while I swing down was not so off the wall after all!
I'm 80 .played a lot of golf .shoulders, hips. back .neck. you name it are gone. But I played JIm's way last season and I find by setting the club head a few inches behind the ball like Moe Norman did at setup and go thru step by step the way Jim says it has made a huge difference in my ball striking with all clubs
Just three weeks ago I watched my first Jim Venetos golf video and I immediately took it to the range.. let's just say for my driver his method is the only way for me to drive the golf ball. Infact In only 3 weeks and I do golf a lot I've hit more fairways per round then then anytime in my life!!!! I now consistently hit my drives with a slight draw 260 to 280 yards. And I know I'm not as still as he teaches. But every swing with every club I practice stillness. Thanks for the grate video.
Bern Dog that is great. I love it when someone who has struggled finds an unconventional way that works for them. Jim is truly a different thinker and teacher. Well done!
I really like Jim’s method, works great for me from sand wedge through 8 iron. After that, here come the tops, hooks & slices. As far as driver, I just don’t because it could be 2 fairways left or right, there’s no telling. 🤷♂️
Glad I found your Chanel , it’s reassuring to hear from someone else that has been working with Jim’s method and knows how good it works I’ve been working practicing Jim’s method now for a few months now and I’ve been consumed with golf shot making for 30some years now I’ve tried everything read all the books watched many different videos by all the top pros and spent allot of money on clubs but now with this method I’m finally making crisp flush iron shots not so much with driver though but it’s straighter , 5 wood draws quite often, ok thanks for you video
I examined another video by this guy...when he explained the three different circles that the shoulders, hands and clubhhead travel on. I definitely appreciated that video. Help me learn to hit from the bottom(waist height) and not rush down to the ball from the top of the backswing
Jim Venetos is a golf revolutionary. Been playing for 40 years and wish I had known about his swing when I first picked up a club. Playing my best at 78 using Jim's method.
Cool video. I've been working on this over a year and when I setup I see a line on an angle on the ground, say 4 o'clock to 10 o'clock, ( the ball at noon) and I try to keep my shoulders on that line, NOT the target line, and I swing on that line. Everybody thinks the ball is going dead right but it never does. As you mentioned, you can take pieces of this method and do what works. Even Jim admits you don't have to be super closed if you can shut off the dominating right side. You're right, I play with guys all week moving all over the place - they get off one or two good shots and then literally hit 6 inches behind the ball after that. From my observations I would say 99% of golfers who know zero about swing mechanics get over to the right side, stay there, throw the club, release the angles, flip the wrists and then say they picked their head up when they butcher the shot. I'd say all are adding 9 degrees or more of loft doing this which is why the ball goes nowhere. The harder they swing the more they open up and the worse it gets. They ask me what to do and I tell them what Hogan said: "Do the opposite of everything you're doing right now." hahahahahahaha
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I have literally done what you said in your video by using parts of his method in my swing, I was a 19 handicapper and struggled massively with open shoulders resulting in inconsistent striking etc but I watched his videos and when I practiced I did it how he says. I then took it to the course and played my full normal swing while trying to keep shoulders closed and I must say its worked wonders for me I'm now a 10 handicap. Granted it is very difficult as you say but if you persevere it does work ,although I would say the faster you try to swing the harder it is to keep shoulders closed so start of slowly and as long you strike the ball well it still goes a distance. Good content keep up the nice vids man
Lee Dennis thanks for the support. That’s a massive improvement in your handicap. Scratch golf is not too far away! Well done.
Hi, I was interested in Jim's methods but couldn't swing well with my weight so forward. I decided to try a round with just closing my shoulders and swinging along that line and trying to come through at the end and finish pointing at the target. With no practice on the range I shot a 76 with 2 three puts today, by far the best driving and ball striking round of my life. Thank you for suggesting that we could use the parts of his method that seem to suit us. Andy N.
Thanks. I appreciate what you said about the social pressure/thoughts. I adopted stillness and screw it. Going to do my best with this method. More importantly, great dog.
I tried Jim's swing today and yes the increase in strike and compression was amazing, but I decided to close the shoulders at address and not turn the right hip to a pre set position and found it to be more comfortable on the lower body.
At 2:42 he finally cuts to the chase.
Hi, Commented on your video about 7 months ago. I do use the Jim Venetos swing method, although mostly on the range at the moment due to the Covid epidemic. One thing I really like about this method is that if you have a bad or misdirected shot you immediately know the reason.Not achieving stillness or coming through too early with trail shoulder. It really is that simple and I am 79 years of age which probably explains why I find stillness easier than some. Best regards and I hope Alice has healed nicely (I have had 3 Alsations).
Bob Mansfield thanks! Alice is getting old and having hip problems the poor thing. She still loves to chase a golf ball though. I believe a large part of enjoying golf is hitting the ball flush even if you don’t pound it or hit straight all the time . Jim’s method helps with this hugely. Thins and tops and chunks just aren’t that fun!
been trying this at home with just using a PW. Took it to the course today. Shot 37,37,38. Had 5 birdies the first 18. I am about a 6 handicap, but this swing fells like its a lot more consistent. Thanks Jim!
mitchell30820 that is awesome. Just proves my point that people can improve with different systems then conventional teaching.
Glad to see some some affirmation of what Jim teaches. I'm a senior with restricted movement. Any other seniors practicing this method?
65 and on my third round of lessons and it seems like I am no better than when started. I am one of those that "normal" golf instructions do not seem to work. Going to try JV as my next step. Ken Martin how has it worked for you so far?
@@kensmith7821 haven’t actually tried the course yet. The principle seems good. I’m afraid there may not be much hope for whatever method I try..🙄
@@kenfldude Know what you mean...Might as well give it a try. Nothing to lose
@@kensmith7821 you might not read this as it has been 3 years…..but out of frustration with my round and having seen Jim’s vids I on the 18 tee said what the heck…..so I did as the he teaches and really stayed still once set up……really still and hit a nice tight draw with my driver! So what the heck? Had a seven iron in and hit it being really still and it produced this lovely draw on to the green. Lol missed my birdie but those were the best two shots of the day. Now I must work on this very interesting concept. Jim knows of where he speaks.
Jim's pre set position and absolute stillness has me compressing the ball time after time
Me too, as long as I can figure out how to stay down & closed through impact consistently; I seem to top way too many shots. 😢
I took lessons, but couldn’t improve until I switched to JV method. It’s dope man.
I’m a left hander and have tried everything possible concerning the golf swing and the thought stillness has helped me better than anything I’ve ever tried I’ve had a horrible slice off the tee every since I’ve started golf and the pre-set set-up plus the simple thought stillness has helped me more than all the thousands of tips I’ve ever tried
Larry Morris that’s awesome. I love it when people have success with unconventional methods. Thanks for the comment.
I'm a lefty and might try this. I like the simplistic approach.
Larry Morris...I am you exactly. Left handed, normal techniques don't work and a terrible slice. May have to try JV next.
Huge fan of Jim’s method…from wedge through 8i. For me, anything longer than that and here come the hooks, slices and ESPECIALLY topping, no matter how hard I try to stay still. So frustrating because I know that Jim’s method is superior. Wish I could just afford his school, 100% sure he’d fix this mess.
for draw close stance slightly first, the close shoulders more. ball mid to help in to out...allow right side come through post impact
This setup is interesting, makes sense, and worth a try. That said, is club face square to the target at address or open in line with the shoulders?
Jim Forte 80% of where a ball starts is club face so I would say that the face should always be pointed where you want the ball to start. This method is more about creating a shallow descending in to out blow in to the back of the ball and very solid contact. After you can repeat that then the club face can be tweaked to get the starting line you want. It always a blend of face and path for the flight you want bu5v5bis method will get you first hitting clean consistent shots and then fine tuning is easy.
It’s not for me but there are parts of his swing that everyone should try. Firstly his setup with weight on the left leg and swinging from the left shoulder creates a good ball strike; ball first and then ground. His closed setup helps to eliminate the weak out to in swing that a lot of people have. Lastly by staying still he creates a repeating swing.
So yes, setup square to closed. Get your leg action working so that your weight is fully on your left leg at strike. Keep your right arm passive and use your left arm to create an in to out swing.
jims technique is brilliant
I did mention Im 80 . Forgot one more thing I also keep my nose at 5 oclock position
Great review. I'm having difficulty with right side still being dominant even with weight shift on left side and closed stance. Some shots go left while others veer right. I have not seen the illusive draw as yet
Dexter James if your right side is used to spinning out on the downswing then it is difficult to quiet it. I have found that hitting balls with the lead arm only on the club helps to strengthen the left, make the right more passive and improve the path.you can also try holding the club with a strange grip with your right hand. Check out my video about swing wreckers or thumb and forefinger off the shaft. Even maybe the shaft running between the 2 first fingers. Essentially the hand is on the club but unable to really apply pressure without it feeling awkward.
Good luck and thanks for the comment.
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I have tried Jim’s swing for 3 rounds and played decent golf 82-76-82 but I don’t hit draws, maybe four in the three rds. I hit my short & med. irons straight. My driver and fairway wds. And long irons I get 4-8 yds. Fade.
Jack Phillips it’s a process. It takes a while of practicing the technique to really quiet the lower body and torso so that the club is always swinging on a shallow in to out arc. Keep at it and the magic tight draw will appear more often. Focus on stillness.thanks for the comment.
If you're not getting the ball to draw, your set up or your swing thought could be improved.
Jack Phillips this is normal. It only takes the shoulders to move a couple of inches on the downswing to throw the club off its inside arc to the ball. If you persevere and focus on stillness your shoulders will start to quiet and you will hit mainly draws. Stick with it.
Apologies if this comment is redundant, but that is one good dog.
Also check out Kiran Kanwar and her Minimalist Golf Swing
Michael Chesser will do!
And John Hensby's Channel Lock swing www.channellockgolfswing.com/
Pretty much the same as Jim's only the ball is off the back foot.
One big thumbs up for Alice. Does she have her own YT channel? :)
Norman Kleinberg 😂😂sorry no she doesn’t but maybe she should based on the amount of likes she gets.
Forget the swing, I want that dog!
I swear by his Method and your dog Alice is a definite keeper
Bill Hill thanks for the comment.
I had a 3rd grade student about 8 years ago that had never played with a hula hoop, and we had a special event by a trainer that day. Within minutes this girl was able to start swinging 2,3 even 4 of the hoops like she had been doing this for years. I can't do even one, no matter what I try and doing. I'll never forget the trainer using her as an example of the small amount of motion necessary to make that hoop sing around the body. I think Venetos is basically using this technique of very small effort to create a very wide, circular swing. It works, but if you already have something that works better for you, I can see why you'll be negative on it. That's not most golfers though. I find his lessons very relaxing and rewarding.
That’s a good lesson. Thanks.
Weight on the front side 👍 Hitting down from the inside 👍
I love the dog...
George Clowney poor thing is getting old and has hip problems but she is so sweet. Thanks for the comment.
Dos anyone know where you can see a side view of the swing. I know he wants to maintain stillness yet he is fully rotated in his finish. Is it arm momentum making this happen?
CZcams video “ Jim venetos golf swing in slow motion”
czcams.com/video/RxGEJBlx_sw/video.html
Change speed to 1.5x. You’re welcome.
❤️ Alice!
Nice dog !
AMEN...
I've actually had a couple of lessons with Jim and seen him in action. You describe it well. Weight forward throughout the swing is a big key along with stillness and keeping shoulders closed through impact.
Rick Heideman thanks. I have only messed around with Jim’s stuff a bit but I can see the value in it clearly.
I’ve been trying his method and really like it. After years of a conventional swing keeping weight on the front side is hard but impact and ball flight are so nice. I’m curious having seen him hit balls is it impressive? Does he get the distance and results he talks about?
I like it and I follow Jim as well but I think the one part you are missing is the bit about finishing your swing as you would a normal swing (belt buckle to the target).
This is where I think a lot of people struggle with Jim’s swing...Jim says stay very quiet and passive on the back swing and keep that lead shoulder closed, but finish as you would a regular swing. A bit confusing as to when you can “open up” that left shoulder.
Jim Venetos swing method is awesome, he can hit over 300yds with that swing. I think it is a good method for someone with problems with the back swing (which is 99% of amateurs).
jteddy11 very true. There is a lot of help out there in the form of different methods and ideas.
after impact, your trail shoulder should face the target.
Correct
I've been working on that same type of swing, my left shoulder and upper back is basically facing away from the target, then I just drop and aim, or feel like my swing, is going to the right. The damn ball has been going straighter, I can't believe the difference. Totally different feeling. I will definitely continue to practice this way.
My problem is when I need to fade the ball with this set up.
You can still fade the ball with this method. Try using the club face and not swing path to produce your fade. Thanks for the comment.
@@migmatisgolf thanks I will give this a try
Its very easy to discipline your shoulders; just keep your head behind the ball....now, do it, your fixed. Things could not be simpler.
This is nothing like the swing taught by Jim Venetos. He doesn't even set up open.
Weight Forward Period. Will help anyone. That Venetos got from Stack and Tilt.
I just don’t see how you could get much power in the swing. You can only swing the arms so hard till it would pull your shoulders. But if you come over the top like I do I think this would be a hell of a drill to use.
Dick Magee check jim out. He explains it better than I do. Power in the swing is mainly down to optimizing the best swing arc with stillness and releasing angles at the right time. You have to try it to believe it. Watch as much Jim Venetia stuff as you can and give it a go. It will definitely help with your over the top move. Thanks for the comment.
It really seems that way but that hasn’t been my experience. Part of the distance equation is smash factor. How solid and in the center of the clubface do you strike the ball. For me this method really improves that. I have tested on track man and my distance hasn’t suffered at all. The quality of strike and consistent ball flight is much improved. Think of it this way. In your downswing what is the first thing you want to do? Get to your left side. Jim is just never leaving it.
What I don’t understand is-when watching Jim V’s swing videos, he’s always in the closed position, all his shots seem to be going RIGHT rather than STRAIGHT. Am I the only one that sees that? I’ve asked Jim and another advocate that same question and I never get an answer. I don’t know what I’m missing here. Please help me to understand this.
His shots go right in relation to what? His shoulders?feet?knees? I say that because aiming is one of the most miss understood parts of golf. Standing side on to a golf ball creates a relationship to the ball with the eyes that the brain has trouble computing. Most amateurs want to get the club back to the ball too quickly because of this. Almost everybody swings better with closed eyes. What Jim does is pre set you up for the correct path in to the ball. Don’t worry about where the ball goes to start with. Just get to the point where you are consistently striking the ball and seeing the same shot pattern and then learn to aim what you have.
Also you never really see the end of the ball flight in his video but he mainly hits a draw so if he was on a course those balls would all be starting right of the target and drawing back on to the target.
@@migmatisgolf Thank you for your quick reply and explanation. I understand what you are saying, but, I can’t possibly be the only one that sees that his severely closed stance will , and does, send the ball directly right (as in; right into the out of bounds). If the videos showed a draw in flight, and the ball landing straight out , I wouldn’t be so confused.
the buddies laughs will disappear once they see the results
JM
Jim also drops the trail foot and closes the hips a bit. You weren’t doing that.
Driver help ?
Ball much more forward as bottom of arc is very forward with this technique. As the ball is more forward and you will be catching it on the up, the club will be moving more left so you will need to aim more right than usual with driver.
I hope the time that's lapsed between this video and now, you've seen what a ridiculous concept this is. Seems like the best way to hit it short
brucenoneyabusness don’t knock it till you have tried it 😜Many a convert would disagree with you. It’s not for everybody but definitely helps a lot of people enjoy the game more.
I’ve been spanked many a time by players I outdrive by a mile. They have incredible distance control and great ball striking.
Distance isn’t everything. I get where you are coming from though. If it’s not for you then move on and find something that is. Thanks for the comment and happy hunting.
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Glad my group has a lot of ugly swings so adding this was not controversial…lol
Great looking German Shepard-and smart too.
Fail proof if you try...Not pretty swing but never pay for all the beers again.
Consistency over being a cute bitch
Where are you btw...?
dry509 Hawaii but travel all over the world for work. A lot of family in U.K.
This guy did not demonstrate the swing properly. He set up almost square to the line of flight, Jim advocates a closed (45 degrees) setup. Watch the videos of Venetos instruction if you wanna get it right.
Considering you can’t tell where I am aiming that statement makes no sense. Not to mention “the line of flight “is a vague concept at best.
Use this technique to strike it pure every time with a consistent ball flight then move you feet to change your aim.I would love for someone to walk up to Couples or Trevino on the range and tell them to set up with their feet or shoulders differently. What I can agree on is that to get the best instruction on Jim’s philosophy go and watch his videos.
What did you tell us that Jim hasn’t already? And without all the distractions. Your kinda ripping him off.
Crystal Davis sorry you feel that way. Just trying to make more people aware of Jim’s teachings. He sent me a message thanking me for making this video.
Thanks for the comment.
Migmattis im sorry. Please forgive me. I watch you guys and I go out on the range but I believe im the type of person who needs someone there with me to teach me. Plus I’m 49 and been hitting the golf ball since I was 6 or 7. Hard to learn a different way. Hanks for your advice and again I’m sorry.
Crystal Davis no need to feel sorry. I am grateful that people engage with me and am happy to take criticism . I just try and make everybody realise that there is a method for them out there that might not be your typical “conventional” way. Most people have never heard of these different methods and the people who bring them to us so I like to draw attention to these outliers. Thanks for the comment.
Too much talk get to the point !!!!!!
Doesn't matter what it looks like the results speak for themselves ive been trying stack and tilt aka ben hogan swing for 6 mounths and it aint goin well the day theirs no snow on my course ill be tring it i cant wait