Kaabo Mantis Pro SE Tire Change 3" Hybrid / Off-road Tire Install on an Electric Scooter
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a trick cyclists use to help prevent pinch flats is to coat the tube in talc which helps it to slide around rather than get stuck
Hey Bluey, thanks for the instructional video, I have a Mantis Elite and have just used your knowledge to swap my street tyres for semi off road ones.
Really good video! Thank you for taking the time to make this!
Your video gave me confidence to change my tube, project complete, success! Thank you.
lol, nice vid.....You lucky guys with your split rim hub motor wheels! I mounted very similar tires on my custom scooter build without the ease of a split rim and it was unlike mounting all of the bicycle tires I've done before. They were tight! I had to buy giant motorcycle tire spoons for the leverage and really needed a 3rd hand but was only born with 2. Even after using grease and soapy water on the rim , tube and tire, I ended up severing the precious 90 deg angle tube and had to start all over with the only tube I had left. I got it on and the tube lasted 300 miles before a blowout. So replacing it, I made a tire jig out of 3/4'" plywood to press down around the whole tire at once, so hopefully will not have tube issues this time. I also use 2 layers of a fat bicycle tire liner because I knew what a pain in the ass it was to change these. But the tires are pretty great, on and off-road...good grip and not much road noise. Also, I got 2 of those Mantis Pro tires originally, but wanted to go wider with these... those 2.5" tires came with 2.0" tubes and these 3.0" tires came with 2.5" tubes.
FYI your pro tip of loosening the bolts on the suspension to open the arms completely eliminates the need of pounding the wheel off with a rubber mallet. Just loosen those first before you remove the wheel and it just slides right off
I just ordered mine using your code, got it for around 1750 out the door, thanks!!
Brilliant video man, well instructed
Thanks!
I love these tires so much. It took time for me to put in on my front tire but the grip that I get from those tires on the road is worth the speed reduction. Since my roadways are hot garbage, pothole and cracks in the road are now a joke for my wheels.
Agreed. These tires are great.
What is your top speed with these ?
Good job Ginger !
I find using a crescent wrench on the flats of the axle and wiggling each side frees them up nicely
surprised you’re working on the floor. A motorcycle stand and a tool stand have improved my maintenance comfort 110%
When will you post a video of how the new tires perform off road compared to stock? Keep up the great work on the channel👍🏼
Thanks for an easy to understand video! 😀
I love all your videos and I actually got an electric scooter just keep it up man❤️❤️❤️❤️stay safe
One love ✌
Good on you for using CST inner tubes FYI.
Wheelied over a small curb an popped the rear tire on my 10x today... only 70 miles on it😭 thankfully slime is working for now! Great video! Feel confident in changing mine in a few days now!
Dang it ! I hate when that happens. Try using a slightly higher PSI
@@GingerOnWheels total buzz kill lol! I will! Yo I took a tubeless tire off my hiboy s2 pro an slapped it on LOL
thanks for this video. made it pretty easy . Today my back tire got a flat first, after 2500 miles. It didn't hold air, and I used slime so that may have helped me all these miles. I already had 3 inch tires on deck so i put those on to. But man !! there were things that were tremendously stuck into place. One was the little washer you pop off after the nut on the outside of the wheel. holy SHITE those things were on there lol. took me about 2.5 -3 hrs to do all this for both tires, no power tools
Yikes sounds like a pain!
I have a Kugoo m4 pro and the tires look identical, if they are then yes grip is very good. Down side, noise and vibration.
You can also put a little air in the tube and run it around under your nose the hair in your nose can see it’s very fond weeks in air and help you find a whole been doing it on bicycles for 20 years.
Thnx bro this help''s me a lot!!!
Great info as always. Iv got two scooters that are ready for tire changes. Both need rear tires & are tubeless. Wish me luck. ✨🤞✨Love your channel. Keep up the great work you do for this community . ✨✅✨Your awesome!
Luck!
What a great video, really nice
Great video. You mentioned using superglue to attach the plastic caps on the wheel studs. I found that clear silicone works great and does not create the white/cloudy plastic that superglue does.
Silicone also easier to scrape out so you can repeat the process next time you have to remove the wheel..
This tires are burley 💯🔥
Given that the "off road" tire has the knobs... are they a bit thicker? Meaning, thorns, nails, tacks, random pieces of metal have more rubber to penetrate to reach the tube? If you're not off-roading, do you see much difference between the amount of rubber on the road between the two styles of tire? The first thing I would do, besides using a sealant in the tube, is to install some tire liners. They will further prevent punctures, making the sealant fulfill an insurance role.
great video
Thanks for this because a friend of mines keeps getting back tire flats he even bought new tires and just got a flat again I'm 200 and he's more than I bought a solid tire off Alibaba I'm sick of flats Bro
Link please
thanks
could you do a review on the nanrobot lightning?
Will you review the dualtron x2 at some point and compare it other scooters and hill test it?
I just got my vsett 10+ yesterday from rev rides. Im fat also prob gonna pinch alot of tubes. lol Ive heard changing to the hybrid tire helps alot with the flats. Im gonna ride the stock ones and see how long they last before swapping them though. Was surprised it came with that new sweet screen already on the scooter
So cool bike😎
Good job
These tires could go on the Mantis 10 base as well right? Just noticed on the website it states specifically for the Mantis pro
So you still use the same inner tube that was in the 2 1/2 inch tire with the 3 inch tire?
Like you im pretty heavy and have had several flats. I was thinking on getting solid rubber tire no tube. With the split rim design do you think its possible? I have the mantis v2 fluid free edition.
The other day I lost control hooning on a sidewalk, got a bit whompas, blasted a curb, did some type of ninja roll and stood up. My rear tire was flat after this incident.
Hey mate how’s it going have you tested the mantis king gt I just want to know your opinion on them as you have tested a lot of their scooters and because your similar weight a size as me it would be great to see what you think about the handling and suspension.
What do you like to keep ur tire pressure at?
will those tyres work on the Dualtron MINI? as i know some Mantis models have the same 8.5 tyre as the MINI
How do you find the experience with these semi-offroad tires? I'm about to change my road tires to these as the bike paths I take to work often have a bit of mud or leaves and things on them and the road tires are just a liability.
Thanks ;)
Complimenti per il video. Una domanda gentile: si possono montare pneumatici tubeless su questo monopattino?
I would love to do this but i might be dead before i finished the job
Where did you get the front fender and do i need it for 3 inch tires?
Ginger, love all your videos. I know you like the Vsett 10 plus but the mantis pro was perfect on price and the YE3 was best for my needs. Now the million dollar question, if I buy another scooter what do you recommend that would complement the Mantis Pro SE? I am a big guy like you.
Thats hard to say... I'm afraid only you can decide that.
If u sell ur kaabo 11 let me know I’ll buy it from u 😂👍 love the content u do thx for sharing as always
8:02 you missed tubes valve and hub groove, intended position. You might get quite a wobble with unbalanced wheel.
Hmm, what do you mean? There is just one way the tube goes into the rim. The valve stem lines up with the hole on the rim. Did I miss a part??
@@GingerOnWheels there is a whole in a rim for the valve yes that is all good but there is also a groove/cut out on the hub where valve should sit. Check out the hub and you will see there is a cut out where it should sit, or you can clearly see let say in 7:43 you missed it, I hope you can see it.
Ooohhh I see what you mean. Good eye! Luckily it doesn't appear to matter too much. All good with a few hundred miles on it. But God.... now that you mention it I'll never unsee it. I might go all OCD and fix it some day 😅
@@GingerOnWheels ...your right Ginger
@@ricobeusekamp8351 you're* ..... sorry.
Wow what a PITA! Solid or honeycomb tires for me only...
I stripped two of the screws on the rim, any advise?
Would anyone happen to know if the process here would be the same for the Mantis King GT? I watched the official Voro video on it and holy moly they did a lot. A few of the comments say what they showed is not at all how you do it. Wondering if I get a King GT will it be as easy as in this video.
Seems that the 3” tires have been rubbing for some and not for others. I bought my Mantis Pro w 3” tires installed. It had low mileage and tires were obviously new. Now after riding for a bit the front tire is rubbing on the fork. How is this alleviated? Please help, Riding Ninebot max or my ES2 is underwhelming after riding the Mantis.
Can you do the same with the 10 pro plus
Can you link the digital tire pump
I’ve got 8 1/2 x 2inch wide tires is it possible to go 2 1/5 or even 3 inch wide
Hey bro can you make a video how to fix the brakes
What size are wheel bolt covers
Hi is it the same with 10 x pro with the split rim??
Doee the mantis pro 10 wheel split the same way?
Hello, are you still here ? i need new screws, 2 of em dont come out. So i cant change my inner tire ;(
Hi you think I can put 130/65 6.5 In the back in my kaabo wolf king gt pro in
Do you get less flat tires with them?
Does anyone know of a good set of Allen wrench semi long bits that would fit in a cup for a ratchet wrench?? I think this would be the best tools to do the job 'EASILY'.
How does the tire pop out again? Lol love the sound
haha yeah!.....Boop!
One question, the tire on my scooter is 100 65-6.5, but I want to change it for a tire of a different design, but only if it is 100 55-6.5, do you think it would cause a problem, can it be installed? I would greatly appreciate your answer.?,
I ordered a new 2024 Yume Hawk Pro, comes with tubeless, but I hope the rims are “split rim design”.
I don't think so. If the rims were split and the tires are tubeless, the air would leak out through the slit in the middle of the rim, no?
@@GingerOnWheelsoh god that is terrifying. I watched a tubeless tire change video & the rims were all scratched up by the time the job was done. Having to get metal tools to pry apart… yikes!
Do you know where I can find a 72 V fast charger?? Having a hard time locating one. Love you videos thanks
bit.ly/GingeryWheels .
For my vsett10+ i got 3500odo already 😁
The new 3-inch CSTs are the best out there at the moment, I'm sorry to tell you that you have mounted the wrong rim, the notch on the rim did not match the tube valve🤦😂
Nice tutorial as always. 3" is still too narrow for me I'm on 4" road tires on my 5600w scooter and gonna swap them out with slick tires with tubeless setup! My wheel doesn't split into two pieces as there are no bolts for it. I am suspecting my wheels are tubeless-ready.
I want to do this upgrade to my mantis 10 v2.
Is it the same process?
Will there be enough clearance for the fatter tyre in between the control arms?
I too have the same question. Would love to move to a 3
I like how you said to take note of the tire direction yet mounted it wrong and fixed it after but didn't show it on camera 😅
Definitely did do that. 😅
@@GingerOnWheels 😂 thanks for the instructions tho keep the content comin!
Hi, did you ever get a flat tire again after putting these hybrid tires on ? Do you use this scooter for offloading as well ?
Thanks
I have these hybrid tires and I got a flat within my first 200 miles. A small stick penetrated the tire and the tube. Now I have sealant inside the tube and that never would have happened with sealant. I learned my lesson after walking 6 miles back home. 😂
How can I message you directly. I wanted to ask u a question, and what your thoughts might be on a scooter.
@Ginger On Wheels, will these tires fit the Mantis Pro 10? Thanks👍
Yup.
@Todd Hampton Thanks
Link where u got that portable air pump looks legit
pevoutlet.com/product/electric-tire-pump/
How to you remove rubber caps
Can this mantis fit the new puncture proof tires from the king GT? Then you don’t have to worry about slime.
No they aren't compatible.
We always used to use a liner for the rims on our mountain bikes when we swapped inner tubes.. are you able to use a liner for split rims to avoid the pinch or is that not possible?
I think you actually can. If you can get one the right size.
Hey you didn’t link to the brakes vid? Can’t find it!
I linked it in the description of this video. You can just click on my channel videos and Ctrl+F for 'brakes'.
czcams.com/video/U__91uAwYQ0/video.html
If it says not to exceed 77 kgs, why does it say the payload for the scooter is 330 lbs?
Would you recommend these tires if 90% of my riding is on paved road?
Yes. 100%
I keep getting rear tyre puncture! I’m upgrading to the same tyres as yours have you noticed a difference?
No flats so far for me. These tires are much better for riding than the stock tires imo.
@@GingerOnWheels wicked! Just got some today! Did you notice that the hybrid tyres are smaller than the 10inch tyre (about half an inch)
Nices! Now will having those tires affect the bat/mileage ratio?
They do but it is worth it in my opinion, because they work well for road and semi-off road. (1-3 mph reduction). Plus if you have weird rocks or broken glass on the streets the widen nobs of the tire give you a buffer between the tire nobs and the inner tubes.
hello ginger! i see the tube size on the scooter is 10x2 tho the tire size is 10x3 is that normal? does not the smaller size tube in a bigger tire make the tube inflate even more and in more danger to pop? i ask cuz i am looking to buy one of those scooters and everyone is selling smaller tube size like 10x2 or 10x2,5 the most. so hard to find 10x3 tubes that is the normal size i think. do you know anything about that maybe? it would sure help me a lot! :)
No it does not there's thicker rubber on it The space inside for the tube is approximately the same as the original tire. This also has the added plus of much more rubber to wear through before you risk popping the tube. It does however add a little weight and more resistance when taking off down the road which then in turn causes you to lose a slight amount of acceleration and top end speed. But you gain traction. Only thing I noticed is if you ride when it's wet and you try to corner out high speed you actually wind up with less traction.
@@timoseppala7137 i have no idea what you just said my friend! sorry my english is not that great. :( what does traction gots anything to do about the inner tubes i dont get it. i was asking about the inner tube size not the tires.
I wish changing tyres on my 11X was that easy. It has the split rim design like these, but they screwed up the design, the power wire goes through the middle :/
You just need to use a regular wrench instead of a socket.
I replaced the 2.5" road tire with a 3" road tire on the mantis 10 and it looks narrower than the 2.5" tire was. Looks like it squeezed the tIre together making it even narrower. WTF!
how much speed was reduced with those tires?
Probably too much lol
I must say that all the scooters I have seen have dumb tiny little fenders (mudguards) and that includes my Apollo Phantom. The Bronco Xtreme 11 has complete mudguards.
I change the tyre by just removing one swingarm (on the non-disc/power side) and unscrewing the split rim. No need to remove the whole wheel or deal with the brake. At least, not on my dualtron.
I have stripped screws and I don't know what to do! One of the two that holds the rear brakes on, and I can't get ANY of the 6 bolts on the rim to come out.
Buy proper tools. You should never try to work on something like this with cheapo Walmart low end Allen wrenches. They are made with loose tolerances and low quality metals.
To fix it you can purchase a set of allen wrenches that have little teeth on all six sides to grab onto stripped screws. You'll see what I mean if you see them for sale I don't remember what they called them I just know that they are designed to not slip. It also helps to purchase longer allen wrenches so you have more leverage on them
@@timoseppala7137 can you recommend a tool kit/brand that's good?
Would this tire fit on a kaabo mantis V2 fluid edition?
Yes. I just installed these last night, I did the full on-road version of it but they're the exact same tire just with a different tread pattern. You will lose a little bit of top speed and seems like it's a little less torque but it does feel like it grabs the road a lot better
I finally got around to installing a set of 3 inch tires on my mantis but I seem to hit an issue not mentioned by anyone else . Front tire is running against control arm . Any idea if this can be adjusted ?
Are they the tires from voro? Is your control arm bent? Is the tire over inflated?
@@GingerOnWheels I have them aired up to about 45-50 psi . And control arms are sitting flush no bends . However I got the set off of alie . I guess I know what the issue is . Haha self clearance should fix it
@@rawbone put the scooter on a stand. Lock cruise control on slow speed. Take a rasp and hold it to the side of the tire and shave off a small bit touching the control arms. Common practice on EUCs with ill-fitted tires.
@@GingerOnWheels sounds simple enough , not sure why I didn’t think of that . Thank you Ginger !!
@@GingerOnWheels Hi Gingeronwheels, I have the same issue my tires are from Aliexpress TUOVT they are touching the back swing arms. Is the only solution by trimming down the tire?
Thanks!
I tried to take out the screws around the rim using a drill gun and it wouldn't unscrew. Those things must be screwed in their TIGHT. My next move is to spray each screw with WD40 and see if that does the trick. If that doesn't do it, I might just buy the T-Handle Allen Wrenches and hope for the best. No way I'm risking bending a standard allen wrench on this.
Apply heat. 😉
@@GingerOnWheels Thanks, but last night I finally got them out. I did spray WD40 then used an allen wrench from a heavy duty folding set which helped me use some leverage in my palm from its design. Not sure if the WD40 helped or I just needed to put some force into it but at least I got them out.
And THANKS for the video, you're a life saver as I would never have known what a "split rim" was until you showed it here.
These treads feel fucking great don’t they? ;)
Been running them on Steeve (My Hunter X10) for about 600km now and they shred hard everywhere!
Also with removing those washers at the wheel l, just tap the tire side to side and it’ll wiggle the motor out a bit and free those lock washers.
Get yourself a table that’s high enough to flip the scooter over on the deck on a corner, it’ll make tire changes super easy long term ;)
I’ve had literally 0 luck with tube puncture kits by the way. They never last more than 10km for me at all
how much PSI do you use on tire 10inch?
I don't know, my girlfriend controls that part.
the links in the description dont work.
Fixed 3/4
What size those tires bro?
pevoutlet.com/product/10-x-3-tires-80-65-6-tire-tube/
Bro I make a disaster, one of screw around the motor have the hole damaged, any advise to solve this problem?
Heat up the screw slightly with a heat gun or hair dryer. Then use the Allen key to take the screw out, but put a rubber band in between the Allen key and the screw for better grip on the stripped threads. Or, you can cut a long slit along the top and then use a flathead screwdriver to take it out. If that doesn't work you'll need to buy an EZ out screw kit and drill the old screw out.
@@GingerOnWheels i fix the screw and change the tire, but now the tire touch the fork...any tips?