A picture of my water bottle, obviously. By the way, even though the plastic is biodegradable, it won't happen out in the wild by itself. Don't dump your bottles to save weight.
With some exceptions, there's really just one factory in Italy that makes handlebar tape for all the major aftermarket brands. They don't actually mix the rubber foam and extrude it themselves, it is imported on massive spools. The Italian factory will perforate, trim, emboss, brand, texturize, etc, at their factory in Italy.
Chemist here. Did Elite really tell you their bottles are made from bio degradeable plastics? If so, that's great. But not all corn based plastics are bio degradeable by definition (many are, but not all - if anyone want an in depth explanation, that's fine, but I guess most of you here wouldn't want it)
I have a genuine question (if it sounds stupid it's because I am): why would you want a biodegradable plastic reusable bottle? Wouldn't you want it to last for as long as you want to use it for, or is it only biodegradable under certain conditions?
Keycap Happy Mofo These plastics are indeed usually only biodegradable under specific circumstances. However, the matter of why we shouldn’t use everlasting bottles is an environmental one. You’re not gonna use your bottle forever, so when you dispose of it, it would-be be best if it is degradable or recycleable.
Love these plant trip/ how-it's-made videos. Plant trips were my favorite part of college when I was taking materials classes. Jon, you've got a whole series to do... just start at one end of the bike and go to the other seeing how each pieces is made.
even though it is a corn based plastic it is still polyethylene. And Polyethylene isn't biodegredable. The Precursor may be but as soon as you chain the molecules together it is not possible to degrade it by throwing it into the landscape.
Have a bottle sitting in my cupboard from the Specialized 40th Anniversary with the classic Gorbachev ad on it. Some day I ought to get that reprinted!
@@seahog32 damnn after doing my own research, its kinda sad they take as long as normal plastics to biodegrade . at least they bio degrade like most things instead of just degrade into smaller microplastics like oil based plastics
I have never imagined someone blindly trusts this "we are environmental-friendly" slogan JUST because it says 100% biodegradable.... What is happening with our education..... It's like supporting electricity-powered vehicles without explanation and case studies lol @lol yeet so glad that at least you tried to do research later on
The best chain lube I’ve ever found is made by Green Oil UK, who also made this cheeky little bit on the ’biodegradable’ topic: czcams.com/video/i5XbD6jRHnc/video.html Also, the founder’s name is Simon if memory serves. I wonder if Simon could go interview Simon for GCN? :)
GCN is going to be hugely popular eventually because of the depth and breadth of the topics covered, appealing to a much broader audience, not the elite crowd alone ( to which I belong, in a way ) . Always inspiring me to get out on the bike. toodle-oo !
Wow. Another informative video produce by GCN. Next i want to see how it build is anything about the group set of a bike? Like a RD or FD or the lever itself? Thanks gcn!
I got a couple Elite bottles they are excellent. Seeing the manufacture process and, specially that they are corn based and biodegradable, I'm sticking to this brand.
That was very interesting indeed. I use Elite bottles and I love them. Also, my 2 year old loves them more than her own bottles, and so now she drinks from Elite bottles too :)
What this video really means..... GCN will now have and be sponsored by Elite Water bottles. Probably are running out of their first giant CamelBak order. Pretty cool video!
This is awesome! I've always wondered how water bottles were made and I'm happy to hear that elite is so on point with the recycling and using corn based plastics vs petroleum based. I wonder if camelbak does the same.
Great video! I worked in injection moulding for several years in the factory as a mechanic. And i've got to say: from my perspective their factory looks pretty good. I know how it is when they want to film something or customers come by etc. everything gets cleaned more than usual. With time working in the industry you know where you've got to look at to know if a company does it properly or just like "dang, they come to film tomorrow and it should be clean, usually it's a mess". On a scale from 1 to 10, i would give them probably a 9. If you want, there's always room to improve ;-)
I want to see how/who developed million dollar machinery to make $10 water bottles. Very cool and interesting. It would be neat to see how other components are made. Next "How are bottle cages made". Got to keep in order.
This isn't boring at all! Maybe the next video should go on about shift cables or their housings..Maybe explain old rim brake cables and go on about their housings and how they were made:D Anyway 10/10 GCN [jk]
That was actually awesome! Cheers Jon for presenting such a fun video! Fingers crossed some lucky viewers may possibly win one of your limited edition bidons! Do a giveaway!!!
@@gcntech nice 👌 you GCN boys and girls sure love your viewers and fans! Now here's hoping one makes it way to me all the way across the pond in Sydney....😅🤞🤞
@@gcntech OK seen it👌，Oakley team done a pretty good job behind the history，then how about some bike computer（GARMIN） that can connect with other same brands computer without wifi or bluetooth but it still keep the signal fast and smooth？Or another topic for TT bike aero bars shape，angle and length that can affect rider's comfort，aerodynamic and power input，yeah I think a lot after crashing with my TT bike without fitting well enough，and crashing alone behind the group without anyone noticed me😭
Who wakes up one morning and decides "You know what? I'm going to invest millions of dollars into some large machinery to sell plastic water bottles with a retail price of around $15."
Love my fly bottles, not just because weight, I can remove the top rubber cap and clean the whole cap, allowing a good hygiene practice. Unlike other bottles, Camelback included, that after 6 months is so dirty that smells! I have broken these and other bottle caps when trying to clean them.
I have an Elite Iceberg bottle and it's really horribly made. It's leaking all the time, and it's hard to drink from it. How did they managed to make it so badly?
@@surlyogre1476 I just looked those up and nope, I have a long scrubby brush to get into the bottoms. I need someone to make a spout that I can get apart to clean. It's the surfaces between the moving parts of the normal spouts that I can't wash. I salsa have a bottle like the old gcn ones with the little rubber valve in them. Again there are spots in the valve I can't clean. I don't care how much it weighs, but I do need to be able to open close it one handed or with my teeth.
Andrew__ Actually the spouts can be taken apart. Newer bottles use a softer more pliable rubber to make the spouts. If you look on the inside to the cover as you push and pull the movable part, you'll notice the little tabs on the side that prevent the spout from being easily pulled apart. If you use your thumbnail to push the tabs in while pulling the spout apart, you can separate the two pieces. The tabs are designed so it's easy to push the pieces together, but harder to pull them apart.
Well empty weight of a water bottle is not my priority. I just want a bottle to hold a certain amount of water, fit into the standard bottle cage, be easy to handle.
If Elite can make these out of corn based plastic and they are 100% biodegradable and food safe then why isn't supermarket food packaging made out of the same plastic?
I have to say the elite fly is the worst bottle I've ever used. 1. The bottle I had leaks from both the cap and the valve. 2. The valve was easy to open but was an absolute pain in the ass to keep open when in the mouth. The camelbac podium is a far far far superior bottle. Only downside is it's more difficult to keep clean.
I love my Elite fly's, though your first point is valid it indeed leaks a bit. But : 1) It fits ALOT better in my bottlecages than any other bottle, yeah I've tried alot of them Tacx works ok to but Camelback's don't, they are to hard to pull out. 2) I have no problem with the valve. 3) I find that they are easier to push in to get more fluid fast than any other bottle 4) the hole is bigger and so it's easier to fill. 5) alot lighter 6) the look better than most bottles So for me the good points outweigh the loss of a tiny (yeah it's not much) bit of fluid.
What photo would you get on a bottle?
A picture of my water bottle, obviously.
By the way, even though the plastic is biodegradable, it won't happen out in the wild by itself.
Don't dump your bottles to save weight.
It would be the picture of my dad, a friend and me atop the pico del veleta after riding up there, because it's a great memory and an awesome picture
Gerber Baby.
The Anglirou group shot.
Jon Cannings, obviously!
weight saving tip: drill a hole in the bottom of your bottle - saves you 500-1000 gramms per bottle
Very good, why hadn't we thought of that before?!
I found that if you put a stick of dynamite in and a lit match it weighs even less
I would like to see how handlebar tape and gear/brake cables and housings are made.
With some exceptions, there's really just one factory in Italy that makes handlebar tape for all the major aftermarket brands. They don't actually mix the rubber foam and extrude it themselves, it is imported on massive spools. The Italian factory will perforate, trim, emboss, brand, texturize, etc, at their factory in Italy.
Gotta love Jon's enthusiasm!
It's like he works there...
What's happening with these special edition Cannings bottles?!
Giveaway, please
Go on Jon - let's have a giveaway! Maybe through World Bicycle Relief or similar?
@@ingy1965 GREAT idea. I'm in!
Chemist here. Did Elite really tell you their bottles are made from bio degradeable plastics? If so, that's great. But not all corn based plastics are bio degradeable by definition (many are, but not all - if anyone want an in depth explanation, that's fine, but I guess most of you here wouldn't want it)
I have a genuine question (if it sounds stupid it's because I am): why would you want a biodegradable plastic reusable bottle? Wouldn't you want it to last for as long as you want to use it for, or is it only biodegradable under certain conditions?
Keycap Happy Mofo These plastics are indeed usually only biodegradable under specific circumstances. However, the matter of why we shouldn’t use everlasting bottles is an environmental one. You’re not gonna use your bottle forever, so when you dispose of it, it would-be be best if it is degradable or recycleable.
The corn based plastic really surprised me. Now I'm inclined to get elite bottles. Their ad worked this time.
yes, the planet really thank you for this!
I love any kind of How it's made tech video!
Me too! I hope they make more of them soon.
Cheers, watch this space...
Here we go again.... gcn tech giving me answers to questions i never had.
Love these plant trip/ how-it's-made videos. Plant trips were my favorite part of college when I was taking materials classes. Jon, you've got a whole series to do... just start at one end of the bike and go to the other seeing how each pieces is made.
Cheers Alan, fascinating eh?
@@gcntech Absolutely! Keep them coming! It's good to see someone getting as geeked out as I do on plant trips.
I would like to see producers taking back old used bottles and recycling them 👍😜
I was glued watching from start to finish!
Highly sophisticated and fascinating!
even though it is a corn based plastic it is still polyethylene. And Polyethylene isn't biodegredable. The Precursor may be but as soon as you chain the molecules together it is not possible to degrade it by throwing it into the landscape.
You’re right, interesting! Love to see high-end cycling shoes being made. Thx!
Pic of the wife...the driving force to keep me going all day every day!!!
going all day every day...to stay away from home...?
@@U20101954 Spot on !!!
I will have a picture of you, Jon. Ringing the BELL
I'd love to see how they make modern shaped handlebars (ergo, compact, aero, drilled out...) really curious about it
Nice one, stay tuned!
Very cool! Thanks, Jon.
It would be the picture of my dad, a friend and me atop the pico del veleta after riding up there, because it's a great memory and an awesome picture
Nobody cares.
Something to print on a bottle:"Drink you dam fool!"And on the handle bar tape to!
I enjoyed this.Thank you.
Have a bottle sitting in my cupboard from the Specialized 40th Anniversary with the classic Gorbachev ad on it. Some day I ought to get that reprinted!
How do you communicate enthusiasm for something so mundane! Chapeau!
idk why when jon said its 100% biodegradable i got so damn happy. now i want some ELITE bottles
Yeah, you can bet that most of those bottles will be sat in a landfill site in 40 years time, not biodegrading.
@@seahog32 damnn after doing my own research, its kinda sad they take as long as normal plastics to biodegrade . at least they bio degrade like most things instead of just degrade into smaller microplastics like oil based plastics
I have never imagined someone blindly trusts this "we are environmental-friendly" slogan JUST because it says 100% biodegradable.... What is happening with our education..... It's like supporting electricity-powered vehicles without explanation and case studies lol
@lol yeet so glad that at least you tried to do research later on
The best chain lube I’ve ever found is made by Green Oil UK, who also made this cheeky little bit on the ’biodegradable’ topic: czcams.com/video/i5XbD6jRHnc/video.html Also, the founder’s name is Simon if memory serves. I wonder if Simon could go interview Simon for GCN? :)
after the weekend I would put on the bottles respect the riders and spectators
Great to see the bottles are bio-degradable. Makes me cringe seeing all those bottles ejected to the roadside on the tours! Great video Jon!
you can't imagine how fast fans will collect them after the riders passed.
This is super cool and awesome!
The process of making cycling water bottles is so fascinating! I like it so much.
GCN is going to be hugely popular eventually because of the depth and breadth of the topics covered, appealing to a much broader audience, not the elite crowd alone ( to which I belong, in a way ) . Always inspiring me to get out on the bike. toodle-oo !
Cheers bud!
Wow. Another informative video produce by GCN. Next i want to see how it build is anything about the group set of a bike? Like a RD or FD or the lever itself? Thanks gcn!
I got a couple Elite bottles they are excellent. Seeing the manufacture process and, specially that they are corn based and biodegradable, I'm sticking to this brand.
Nice one Welves!
That was very interesting indeed. I use Elite bottles and I love them. Also, my 2 year old loves them more than her own bottles, and so now she drinks from Elite bottles too :)
Start 'em young eh?
@@gcntech Absolutely!
Fu....ing awesome!!!!
What this video really means..... GCN will now have and be sponsored by Elite Water bottles. Probably are running out of their first giant CamelBak order. Pretty cool video!
Very cool
This is awesome! I've always wondered how water bottles were made and I'm happy to hear that elite is so on point with the recycling and using corn based plastics vs petroleum based. I wonder if camelbak does the same.
Great video!
I worked in injection moulding for several years in the factory as a mechanic. And i've got to say: from my perspective their factory looks pretty good. I know how it is when they want to film something or customers come by etc. everything gets cleaned more than usual. With time working in the industry you know where you've got to look at to know if a company does it properly or just like "dang, they come to film tomorrow and it should be clean, usually it's a mess". On a scale from 1 to 10, i would give them probably a 9. If you want, there's always room to improve ;-)
It’s 2am LA time and I watching a video about water bottles!!! Lol only a cyclists life!
When Jon make double big thumbs up would be nice at a bottle and of course the bottle should be in celeste!
I have a few elite fly’s for $10. Love that they’re lightweight and durable.
By the way, the printing process is automated silk screen.
Jan Willem Kuilenburg it’s such a cool setup!
At 7:50 yes, screen printed. But 8:34 is inkjet.
I want to see how/who developed million dollar machinery to make $10 water bottles. Very cool and interesting. It would be neat to see how other components are made. Next "How are bottle cages made". Got to keep in order.
Haha yes cheers Robert!
Picture of my bike of course!!!
What else?!
Flippin neat
This isn't boring at all! Maybe the next video should go on about shift cables or their housings..Maybe explain old rim brake cables and go on about their housings and how they were made:D Anyway 10/10 GCN
[jk]
That was actually awesome! Cheers Jon for presenting such a fun video! Fingers crossed some lucky viewers may possibly win one of your limited edition bidons! Do a giveaway!!!
Stay tuned...
@@gcntech nice 👌 you GCN boys and girls sure love your viewers and fans! Now here's hoping one makes it way to me all the way across the pond in Sydney....😅🤞🤞
Really interesting.. will there be a Cannings Giveway comp soon? Love that the bottles are Bio degradable too.
John is it a bottul or a bottle that is is the question great vid
Didn't know these are made in my country - Croatia.
I would like to have my CZcams channel logo on a bottle haha just be really cool. Excellent and interesting video GCN! 👍😀😀👍🚴😀
So will we have a contest for one of Johns custom factory tour printed bottles?
I’d have a picture of Ollie with GCN graphics for been the best presenter.
I man could lose his mind surrounded by all those drinks bottles...
The most advanced and variously technology to protect and keep comfort for our eyes -- cycling sunglasses，hope GCN will pick this topic for a run😊
They've been to Oakley before, look for past videos
Have you seen our trip to Oakley HQ? czcams.com/video/FiIaaMM8rms/video.html
@@gcntech OK seen it👌，Oakley team done a pretty good job behind the history，then how about some bike computer（GARMIN） that can connect with other same brands computer without wifi or bluetooth but it still keep the signal fast and smooth？Or another topic for TT bike aero bars shape，angle and length that can affect rider's comfort，aerodynamic and power input，yeah I think a lot after crashing with my TT bike without fitting well enough，and crashing alone behind the group without anyone noticed me😭
Picture(s) on the bottle.... One side, Merckx, the other side George Mount.
Does the world really need so much of everything?
YES!
Who wakes up one morning and decides "You know what? I'm going to invest millions of dollars into some large machinery to sell plastic water bottles with a retail price of around $15."
Love my fly bottles, not just because weight, I can remove the top rubber cap and clean the whole cap, allowing a good hygiene practice. Unlike other bottles, Camelback included, that after 6 months is so dirty that smells! I have broken these and other bottle caps when trying to clean them.
This is cool, but Im never coming back after I tried stainless steel bottles - last forever and taste is way superior
What about the rattling sound whilst been in the bottle cage?
@@drewbarrow5670 you have to go with stiffer bottle cages and then its neutralized.
How about how bike tires are made?
What the hell do you do with hundreds of John Canning water bottles? Have a sale in the GCN Store.
We're currently tip-toeing around them all at GCN HQ...
I guess the person and the photo of whom I want to get printed on would be Marco Pantani and his Victory of 1998 Giro and Tour double
Do you know when you'll be able to customise your own bottle?
How do they make bar tape.👌🏻
I would have StarMan riding a Canyon Aero "Cycling in to the future." Printed on to a white bottle with Falcon 9 landing legs on the bottom
So Elite bottles are corn based. Does that mean less of that plasticy taste/smell?
What about handlebars
I want one bidon with your pictutre!
I have an Elite Iceberg bottle and it's really horribly made. It's leaking all the time, and it's hard to drink from it. How did they managed to make it so badly?
Bartape how's it made
oh god those Cannings bottles are fucking mental xD
BPA free?
price delivery are too expensive in your website shop outside england , i did not buy anything
How It's Made: GCN edition
Approved?
I'd like to see how they make a bottle that fully comes apart so that it can be cleaned properly.
You mean a Clean Bottle (tm)?
@@surlyogre1476 I just looked those up and nope, I have a long scrubby brush to get into the bottoms. I need someone to make a spout that I can get apart to clean. It's the surfaces between the moving parts of the normal spouts that I can't wash. I salsa have a bottle like the old gcn ones with the little rubber valve in them. Again there are spots in the valve I can't clean.
I don't care how much it weighs, but I do need to be able to open close it one handed or with my teeth.
Andrew__ Actually the spouts can be taken apart. Newer bottles use a softer more pliable rubber to make the spouts. If you look on the inside to the cover as you push and pull the movable part, you'll notice the little tabs on the side that prevent the spout from being easily pulled apart. If you use your thumbnail to push the tabs in while pulling the spout apart, you can separate the two pieces. The tabs are designed so it's easy to push the pieces together, but harder to pull them apart.
Lmfao!! Can i have one of those bottles 😂
Cannings in a bottling plant heh
I'd print Lance Armstrong cuz it will be satisfying to see if the machine rejects to print his face on the bottle itself
Well empty weight of a water bottle is not my priority. I just want a bottle to hold a certain amount of water, fit into the standard bottle cage, be easy to handle.
...There are two reasons why you should never drink toilet water..
Number one. And number two...
Special Edition collection bottles of all the past winners of the GIro, Vuelta, and the Tour....
I am glad these bottles are biodegradable. I wish all of the plastic was.
Corn based plastic is not biodegradable as corn. For more information read this article: www.thoughtco.com/pros-cons-corn-based-plastic-pla-1203953
Comment of the week bottles?
Who else misses Matt
a video about a man Canning in a bottling factory.
very good knievel...
I’d have a picture of my son, Jacob (people who know me know why) & my youngest Gregor. Both on their bikes, hill climbing
Cute!
#gcntech can i have a Jon's bottle?
Why wasn't Jon wearing a hairnet?
Now i'm proud of my fly550ml
ALLEZ , ALLEZ, ALLEZ champions for the sixth time YNWA
Well said
thanks, i just realised that i left my water bottle on my bike from the ride yesterday :D
If Elite can make these out of corn based plastic and they are 100% biodegradable and food safe then why isn't supermarket food packaging made out of the same plastic?
That's a good point!
Obviosly a photo of a Camelbak GCN bottle.
😂
Look good many Cannings were printed. Good thing they are bio degradable!
Oh come on. That's not nice.
How come I can't buy a plain red water bottle without someone's corporate logo splashed all over it?
Made in croatia. That responds why they are so expensive
$4 on Wiggle
I have to say the elite fly is the worst bottle I've ever used.
1. The bottle I had leaks from both the cap and the valve.
2. The valve was easy to open but was an absolute pain in the ass to keep open when in the mouth.
The camelbac podium is a far far far superior bottle. Only downside is it's more difficult to keep clean.
I love my Elite fly's, though your first point is valid it indeed leaks a bit.
But :
1) It fits ALOT better in my bottlecages than any other bottle, yeah I've tried alot of them Tacx works ok to but Camelback's don't, they are to hard to pull out.
2) I have no problem with the valve.
3) I find that they are easier to push in to get more fluid fast than any other bottle
4) the hole is bigger and so it's easier to fill.
5) alot lighter
6) the look better than most bottles
So for me the good points outweigh the loss of a tiny (yeah it's not much) bit of fluid.
Jon, please trow me a bidon. (waterbottle)