Springtrap: A Horror Icon in Ruin
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William Afton/Springtrap is easily my favourite Five Nights at Freddy's character, but over the years of being brought back again and again more fans have been expressing disappointment in the series unwillingness to branch out and let the character rest, but how did that come to be and what made him so special in the first place? Here's Springtrap: A Horror Icon in Ruin.
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awesome mark!
Nah.
Npcs' posting comments to get attention
The new Mark design still feels kinda off but the intro animation mark was just looking amazing!
i JUST finished watching all your fnaf videos, can you do YOUR take on the entire series lore please? Include the books after the dlc ruin is out tho!
Part of the problem with Springtrap is a problem that plagues many horror icons. Once they become a regular figure in a franchise, the question turns from "will they beat them" to "HOW will they beat them", causing the villain to be as scary as Team Rocket.
Compare him with Griffith from Berserk, it's a strange comparison I know, but in Berserk the question is not "how are we going to defeat him" it's more like "can we even defeat him?", That's something all horror villains are lacking.
@@thegoldendiamond6762 🤨📸
@@thegoldendiamond6762 bro that's his son 💀💀💀💀
Pyramidhead is good example of that in silent hill 2 he was terrifying but then he was everywhere and become just meh
@@Serhik-id1fh not to mention it ruins prestablished worldbuilding. He's James' punishment, nobody elses.
Spring Trap is unfortunately now the Pyramid Head of FNAF.
Yeah if dbd x fnaf happened
I think springtrap is the only option for dbd
AYO GURU LARRY
Except even worse imo
I've only played silent hill 2, what happens to pyramid head?! Also I'm a big fan Larry
@Ian E so Pyramidhead has a symbolic meaning to James that makes sense in Silent Hill 2. In fact, most of the monsters encountered in Silent Hill 2 have symbolic meanings. The problem is that Konami kept having Pyramidhead and monsters like the bandage nurses show up in later games and movies like silly mascot characters.
Springtrap is like Pyramid Head. They love to throw him into places where he doesn’t need to be.
Except lore wise Pyramid Head fit in eveey place he was put in (I can't talk about the movie tho)
@@atanaZion In what way did he fit? Pyramid Head is a manifestation of James's guilt it doesn't make sense when it comes to the other games
Having a springtrap cult could make for interesting antagonists. Most could just be people in fur suits like Vanny, but you could go further and have some willingly recreate the process that made springtrap, resulting in twisted versions of animatronics we know that have humans inside them.
i feel like it could lead to ridiculous extents to match the point the books are at,leading to something like an animatronic version of the court of owls
@@missingtexturezidk it sounds lit, it's either that or animatronic humans that can think, feel, eat and sleep.
@@missingtexturezmore like Ghost Face killers
Springtrap is easily the best design in the whole series. Actually terrifying and feels like a proper final villain for the series
I agree, but I think he's come back a little too often.
@@staysilent4392 "I always come back." - spring trap
@@thegoldendiamond6762 Find God
I'll never forget the way Scott rolled him out.. *He knew Springtrap would be a game changer!*
@Trent M I agree up to a point. Personally, I believe he was at his best in FnaF 3 and Pizza Sim. The only reason he fell of for me is because he is now essentially the Frieza of the FnaF franchise.
The community's reactions and how they treated him with Security Breach was some of the best fun I've had with Fnaf.
Not the blind hate but just all the dumb memes from fans who are tied of treating him seriously
@@thegoldendiamond6762 who the fuck is chris what is wrong with you do you need an adult
@@thegoldendiamond6762 incest? Ew
@@thegoldendiamond6762 plus their kids, even more gross you fucking weirdo
Peepaw Afton
@@daisanity6457 "Alright grandpa, time for bed."
Scott is clearly a 'less is more' guy, he's undoubtedly gifted when it comes to creating horror and scifi concepts that work the best in his games with minimal and abstract storytelling but after Fnaf 3's middling reception it's clear that he shifted focus to a long-form story with the books and Fnaf 4 onwards, which causes great ideas to feel very scattershot in their execution. Glitchtrap and Vanny deserved to be their own characters.
I mean, Scott isn’t the writer anymore. He quit after UCN iirc.
@@sentientviolin7802 He made FNaFVR's story at the least, don't think we've ever had it clarified what part he had in Security Breach but considering that game feels like someone's fangame got made into official canon... he was probably just like "do whatever you want, just make sure the final boss has 'trap' in his name or you're fired"
If I were told to write my own version of Glitchtrap and Vanny, I'd make Vanny the big bad, a complete psychopath that's a major fan of William and his crooked legacy, a copycat killer.
and I'd make Glitchtrap this sort of dark reflection of Vanny's sanity, this illusion symbolising the dark path she took that only exists in Vanny's consciousness to push her into doing what she does, it's a metaphorical way of storytelling.
Honestly if Scott Cawthon redid the jumpscares of FNAF 3, then it would of been a better conclusion to the series
@@reptilerandykrusha6426 way better and much more realistic than wondering if all this is over some Bullshit remnant
bro, Afton being the final boss in Security Breach has the same vibes as “Somehow, Palpatine Returned”
It’s not William afton, it’s a burnt string trap known as burn trap
@@l750z_6 ...springtrap is william afton
@@adora_was_taken no he isn’t. He’s in the suit yeah but William and spring trip are not the same being / entity
@@l750z_6 who's saying "i always come back" then
@@adora_was_taken William
We have never seen Markiplier happy or even show any other emotion that's not crying aggressively. *Is he okay?*
No
No
No
No
No
Fun fact: the underwhelming jumpscare in fnaf 3 was used for theories where people thought it was evidence for springtrap not wanting to hurt you
didnt they also do the same with foxy
jumpscare not scary = evil animatronic is good
@@carbonfibre_
TBH the rest of the jumpscares aren't exactly scary either, they're morso startling, though Springtrap's is just plain lame.
Ah weird FNAF theories. FNAF2 Foxy yelling freedom, anyone?
@@xacmashe3852 OHFUCK i SWEAR i heard something like that
the way the fandom really just started calling burntrap "peepaw" really goes to show how unscary he is 💀
edit because i got a random notif from this today: turns out burntrap isnt afton and its actually "the mimic" and the corpse is that of a teenage girl's..... yea im done with this series. /hj
edit 2: ok ruin came out but i dont have time to watch it pls keep this spoiler free :thumbsup:
edit 3 cause people keep bugging me about this 8 month old comment: after watching ruin and reading some parts of the books i no longer hate burntrap, i still dont like him very much and like many things in sb, he wasnt executed very well, but i wouldnt say i hate him. you can all rest your pretty little heads now knowing that youtube user azaleap does NOT hate peepaw.
The fanart of peepaw is even funnier.
@@liviwaslost fr i loved the ones where he had like a walker and whatnot it was so good
@@azalea-P I liked the ones where he is in a wheelchair, has an IV bag, and is being pushed by Vanny.
At-least it’s an improvement from scraptrap, not by a lot, but if I was given a choice I’d prefer burntrap from scraptrap
@@harbour2118 oh yea 100% hes better design-wise
Springtrap's jumpscare is by far the best in the series. He moves with a calculated purpose that none of the child souls could use. They were attacking in fear and desperation. Springtrap is a serial killer hunting you down.
He's also a 30 year old corpse in unimaginable agony, so he doesn't really have the stamina or energy to yeet himself at you like FNAF 2 Foxy.
@@concept5631Yh but that Nigga be dashing across ur room sometimes to jumpscare u
I doubt the dead children killed in fear and confusion, I see the dead children as more "restless spirits" than being confused and fearful, they just attack everyone like what any restless and vengeful spitit would do, besides it wouldn't make that much sense if they were afraid cuz their movements in FNAF 1 are eerily calculated, almost as if they plan like a bunch of apex predators, eg. hiding in places you wouldn't see much of them, like Freddy in the bathroom. (No offense to your interpretation.)
Yeah exactly! It's underwhelming as a jumpscare but it has great fridge horror if you think about why it's so calm. This isn't the tormented soul of a kid in a clunky animatronic attacking in fear or desperation or rage, like before. This is an experienced murderer. He's killed in that suit before and he won't bat an eye at doing it again, even in death.
I think a better way of describing it is that the other animatronics are vengeful.
Springtrap is malicious and outwardly sadistic and you can tell there is no justification, his only interest is in hurting you.
The problem in general that not enough people admit is that Scott just isn’t as good of a writer that people treat him like he is. It’s plain as day that the series was rewritten multiple times as the games went along and it has resulted in tons of plot holes and a story that is literally impossible to fully piece together into something that makes sense.
True but the main fnaF 1-6 story isn't as complicated as everyone says
Part of the issue was also that a lot more of the engagement with the series came from dissecting obscure clues and implications. As opposed to clear cut writing
It’s pretty obvious from the beginning that Scott didn’t expect Fnaf 1 to receive the reaction it got thus he never planned out a whole story for fnaf and went through all the rewrites. Scott really wasn’t some mastermind writer that had everything in mind, and the fandom dissecting every bit of lore didn’t help
Yeah, this series is trash.I only watched this video because I like Marks videos.
@Busy Ghost the thing is, however, Scott managed to write a decent little tale with the first 3 games. He could've left it there, and while fnaf3 did disappoint gameplay-wise, it did wrap up the story with only a few peripheral mysteries. Instead, he made fnaf 4 and decided to revolve the entire series around the Aftons and its really all been downhill since. The cracks were ripped open exposing how shoddy the writing and planning is. You could tell that he was making it up as he went along. You could see him changing and retconning things. It got messy. It lost its spark for a while. Then the books went and made things more weird. I especially hate how the books were said to explicitely be a seperate Canon from the games, but overtime the writing for the games made it impossible to not use book information to fill the gaping holes. Now we got people talking about illusion disks, fazgoo and robot children. It's gotten really convoluted and really silly, and not in a super fun way.
I love the running gag of having markiplier crying as the webcam every time you use his footage
thank you for the much-needed inclusion of cheesetrap he is the most important springtrap thing to have ever been made
Yes
He went from "I'm gonna kill you" to "I'm going to make you watch LS Mark's entire The Simpsons review without piss breaks"
I don't tell which fate is worse.
William truly is an evil bastard.
@@concept5631it’s obvious the second one is worse
The fandom whenever William afton comes back to life:
"How many times must we teach you this lesson? Old man?!"
Also me when Elizabeth x Chris Afton doesn't become canon
@@thegoldendiamond6762 who’s Chris? That name doesn’t ring any bells for me.
@@AnActualCadaver Chris is a fanmade name for the crying child.
@@thekibbledestroyer I thought the fans were calling him “Evan”
@@AnActualCadaver chris and evan are his fannames, i believe
One of the biggest issues I have with how FNAF went on after 4 is it put more and more focus on the villain of the story, William/springtrap, when it had (arguably) a way deeper and sadder message when it focused more on his victims.
Ayy roachdawgg
Yeah, the spirits getting freed was basically pointless since their murderer just comes back, not to mention henry's sacrifice in fnaf 6
@@ivanalves8506 it really starts to feel like whats the point... hes not real anf if he had plot armour why should i care about playing to stop him
_That’s_ what makes me so meh about the games! You’ve summed it up pretty succinctly - there’s always going to be media about _killers,_ but it feels more poignant to talk about their _victims_ instead.
@@localmenace3043 100% agreed with you! I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. FFPS's completion ending was cool and a good closure to the story but the happiest day ending is my favourite *because* it puts all of its focus on the victims finally finding happiness and being freed. Fnaf's story could've been so much more heartbreaking. Imagine if fnaf 4's protagonist was Cassidy instead of the crying child, and the minigames followed Cassidy's story leading up to their death and getting to know their hopes for the future and how much the happiest day meant to them. It would've added so much more to the tragedy and made the connection between the player and the victim(s) so much more intimate.
At 9:05, something about the way he’s so giddy to explain the joke only to say, “Like Chica!” made me laugh so amazingly hard😂
Agreed
I don't consider anything past 6 canon, it was such a great ending and conclusion to the story and characters
I completely agree! Everything kinda went down in my opinion after 6
I always felt like Scott made spring trap so iconic by accident and has keep trying to figure out what made him so iconic in the future games
He's got a severe case of Boba Fett Syndrome.
@@DistractedGlobeGuyWhy is this so true 😭, that new show missed what made him iconic minus his physical appearance
@@troppie7823 I wasn't talking about the appearance-I was talking about him being a stupid throwaway background character that fans artistically glommed onto so now the writers have to retcon him into some kind of ultimate badass when that wasn't what he was originally created for.
@troppie7823 I mean that struggle was there in the legends stuff too, especially with Karen Travis. She tried to make the mandolorians, using Boba as a way to do it, an op awesome warrior culture that Handley could beat jedi in intelligence and skill but that gave her a controversial rep. This got worse in legacy of the force mainly because threw writers were doing the series thus making the mandos and Bobas sudden importance in her books obvious. The fact that the sequel series swerved to show the mandos as amoral mercenaries who would hurt kids and were beaten by jedi indicates that the opposing side could do it too (she had left star wars by that point I think).
To be clear I think it's more she's of British military and wants to show the military as cool in whatever she can. See also her controversial take on halo.
I would argue there wasn't much to bobba in Empire? He's a plot device with a hint of character. Any development he had was from non movie stuff. That being said I agree. All the other takes, including the one I bring up in my other comment, get his very base empire characterization better and build on it more substantially.
The saddest part of all this is that Springtrap shares the same title as Brian Griffin: “An Icon in Ruin”
@@thegoldendiamond6762 🤨📸
He's not THIS down now, tho. Ending up like Brian is worse
@Epic Zombie Killer Yeah idk why people are mad. I really liked Brian in the earlier seasons and found his struggles in being a dog fun and compelling to watch. While I may not like Brian in the modern seasons that doesn't invalidate your opinion. And vice versa.
I do think Springtrap suffers from overstaying his welcome. His first appearance was cool, creepy, and even intimidating. But all of that starts going away.
It's a shame because he could've easily been left behind pretty early on.
Yeah, it would've been better if he had just subtle appearances leading up to his return instead of focusing the entire story about him all the time. Because hat would actually make his return more interesting.
I'll never forgive scott for what he did to me in pizzeria simulator.
bro got me looking like jimmy neutron
Part of the horror with Afton/Springtrap was the fact that he killed kids and it was pretty vague as to why he did so, with it being left up to interpretation. Even the “he always comes back” line felt more as a way of saying that his actions will forever haunt the legacy of Fazbear Entertainment. Making him into a genius who’s trying to find the secret to eternal life that literally always comes back was a horrible writing decision that is definitely part of why FNAF lost a lot of what made it good.
I completely agree!
At this point, I just try to ignore whatever the franchise's doing with him post FNAF 6. Books included.
Scott might've managed to release a great set of games, but his skills as a writer are clearly lacking lmao
@@fansee1368 Yeah lol. I feel as if SL should’ve been it’s own thing and not a continuation. The ending of Pizzeria Sim is wonderful though. In an ideal world, the og fnaf timeline would’ve stopped at 4 with maybe Pizza Sim’s ending and everything else was with different characters and a different story that didn’t fall back on Afton. Trying to add on more and more crap absolutely ruined the story.
Yeah like the fact that he was just a dude in the suit was scary on it’s own, I think that him becoming immortal or at least trying to is a good concept, but execution didn’t work well after the first 6 games, especially security breach
@@dullsunrise8820ending at 4 feels really odd and unsatisfactory honestly. I feel like the series should have ended at either 3 or 6
Springtrap is honestly really similar to Michael Myers for me. In his debut he was terrifying. Amazing design, killing for no real reason, and they scarcely showed him in detail so when they did it was even more terrifying. But after his popularity rises they began putting him in more projects that weren't necessary, adding in lore that made him less scary and ruining his design more and more, as well as showing him more often which ruins his creepiness, even if he still did have some cool moments. Now they bring him back for no reason other than the fact that he's the recognizable villain, and in his final appearance he's essentially a weak old man. I could've just described either one of them and it would be true
not to mention the grasping at your franchise with a ‘ young apprentice killer ‘ whose existence is so botched their rise to evil is a major plot hole that gets overlooked by the writers for the sake of continuing the story
@@miccia3561 I didn't even think about that but it's so true
Michael afton
Michael Myers
All makes sense
@@miccia3561 yeah, how did it go from "child murderer gets killed by the thing he used to kill with" to "computer virus makes user evil"
@@miccia3561 Ugh EXACTLY. They absolutely fumbled the bag with that one.
I absolutely love that Mark always uses Markipliers crying facecam when showing his gameplay
Springtrap's design in the original was amazing, he had that og fnaf charm that makes it clear that he would have been lovable to kids, when he was torn up and housing a human that is, but it's those extra details of the fleshy insides, the tears, that really made him stick in my mind so long. Up until fnaf 3, we hadn't seen a real human character in the games before, just these haunted animatronics. So when we finally did get it, it was implemented perfectly and it really made you think, "Wow, this guy is suffering so much in that suit, that's messed up man"
I think Springtrap was one of the few plot ideas Scott had during the first game and saved for later. There is a green rotten bunny drawing on the wall in the very first game. He said Bonnie gave him nightmares during development, too.
Even the Puppet had to get scenes retroactively, meaning that wasn't planned.
At this point, he is basically a slasher movie villain.
Like Chucky. He has also used the term "I always come back "
Micheal Myers and Jason.
@@Johns115 I think he's most similar to Chucky
Yep, I told my brother this about 2 months ago, and it does not always mean its a bad thing, myers is one of my favorite villains ever, just William Afton needs to be more scary, I think him attacking Gregory in SB would have went a loooooong way to making him still seam like a threat.
i mean, that's not a problem, if it really does come back, it needs to come back scarier and more intimidating, which chucky didn't do that often
I think Scraptrap should've just been a torn version of Springtrap. A busted and withered version revealing more of the corpse.
Very true. My opinion though? Burntrap's design should've been used in Fnaf 6; it's honestly a really excellent design with how humanoid he looks.
yeah but if scott did that then he might have actually needed to (god forbid) make the model of the corpse beneath the suit actually look remotely decent instead of like... that
@@dylan.bissendmylife Literally anything Scott could've attempted would be better than Scrap-"skull ear"-trap.
@@Imperials3nate imo I don't like burntrap. Hell I prefer scraptrap over him, his design is way too modernised and stylised. He looks more like a fan-made drawing of ignited springtrap rather than an official design. Oh and he also looks like an old man.
@@concept5631 Scraptrap is a cool design. I'm sick of people acting as if springtrap's corpse design is any better, springtrap's corpse literally has fucking guts on his chest and feet. Atleast scraptrap's corpse looks remotely humanoid instead of meat spaghetti.
I like the idea that there's a whole cult devoted to wearing spring trap like suit and trying to make the Afton name feared again.
i loved how simple the idea of springtrap was originally, and how scary it was to see the murderer we’ve only seen in little arcades and bits of dialogue.
Can’t believe LS Mark is doing full-on video essays on FNAF’s storyline now. It’s quite entertaining to watch these
On god
There's something so soothing about his voice.
Love you fnaf novel dubs btw
@@Sabrina_Tea Im for the future I have bad news… he did 😔
@@Sabrina_Tea what does this mean, I haven't kept up with anything, presumably Matpat, has been doing
Honestly the cult of springtrap would’ve been such a cool and terrifying thing and i hate that they didn’t do it
That would've dope as hell
More than a cult, it would be interesting if Vanessa was one of those weird women that fall in love with serial killers and is trying to honor or outright turn into him by killing Gregory.
@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon Yeah, like all of the Jeffrey Dahmer stans.
@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon I think it would have been great if Vanny had this backstory, and after Gregory defeats her either with her dying or going to prison, interest in William brought the cult into being and Gregory kept coming back as a final boy/new Michael type character for the series. the mimic is a really promising villain, and I love the idea that Williams actions are so terrible they are a literal parasite that always comes back....but I like those ideas SEPARATELY
9:00 this joke is so fucking funny and it's entirely because of the delivery
Crazy watching this video with the context of the mimic
What a massive jump from an adult animated cartoon to discussing a killer in an indie horror series
For real though I unironically can’t wait to see Matthew Lillard in the Springtrap suit
Let’s hope he not get lock in the suit. Oh wait. 😅
Something that i wonder is how will they encorporate a dead body in a robot, because springtrap in the game has HUGE eyeballs for some reason
@@ivanalves8506 They're trying to stay as true to the game designs as possible, but they still have full creative control. I wouldn't mind if they changed some things about him
Like zoinks scoob the sprinlocks shut man
@@ivanalves8506 if I remember right they’re animatronic eyes (which implies his eyes got popped out and replaced with robot ones when he died
It'd be interesting to have a game from the POV of the villains
Mega mind game is out
Springtraps design in FNAF 3 is insanely creepy and awesome. And, surprisingly, I think the look of Burntrap would actually be an amazing look, if it came after 3 and not Scraptrap. The head looks similar enough, he would still have an arm to, you know, have a good reason for it to be there still. His skin is almost completely gone, but his muscles are the last things left with his bones. He's had to replace parts of himself to keep alive, like the eyes, making him a little creepier, some how he had to remove his own eyes to see through different ones. However it came after Burntrap, which in it of itself was a bad design. It's sad they over used him.
tbh I think Springtrap's yes are much more unsettling than Burntrap's
Springtrap's eyes look veiny and rotten, with that trademark white glow in the pupils, and those weird plastic shells ovr them
Burntrap's eys are just. dark metal balls with purple leds in them
Never expected Mark to know so much about the lore. He dropped some heavy lore drops. maybe the channel will turn into a theory channel! *OH God no*
But that’s just a theory
A GAME THEORY
Thanks for watching
He didn't even know the difference between springtrap and Vanny
We still need a 4th theory channel
I may have to be more frequent here
In my opinion the real issue is pretty darn obvious - it's not that they should stop bringing back William, it's that they should *STOP ADDING ONTO A COMPLETED STORY.* But Scott has that problem where a creator of something thinks that, as a creator, their sole job is to make more and more. That's why the series has ended uhh five times now? That's why there's a novel trilogy and then a novel duodecilogy and--
The series legitimately ends, 100% done and over, but then Scotty thinks "But the fans want mOoOoOre" and boots up the ol' ClickTeam - or nowadays hires his favorite passionate-but-incredibly-incompetent dev team to rush out another underwhelming mess with some good highlights. Is anyone over the age of 14 really just sitting around hoping there's another FNaF game announced?
Facts. I feel as if the fans wrote the story anyway because if Scott wrote the whole thing we’d be in time traveling ball pits.
@@Cam28388 why is FNAF so goofy 💀 like the story was terrifying until all this Willy Wonka bullsh*t came along, time travelling ball pits? Honestly. 💀
Pizzeria ending was THE BEST ending he could ever come up with, it literally ended grandiose and should've been the end of Afton, as well as classic animatronics/souls thingie. But with continuation it made everything just...pointless, the sacrifice, the work to contain everyone, just meaningless! Why oh why they couldn't just continue with Vanny when they CLEARLY set her to be the new villain in VR? Upsetting...
@@hotmeelk500 I agree, Fnaf should’ve ended after pizzeria simulator and started new in Fnaf VR. Springtrap was supposed to have been finally gotten rid off in the ending yet somehow returned as glitchtrap? It makes no sense and it’s a shame what the new games have become. They’ve just fallen into the rabbit hole of “indie horror games made for kids”.
if they are going to do it they better make their own story that just happens to be fnaf
The kid at 5:38 is my brother Shady150 and this was insane to see on this video, he made that 8 years ago!
woah that's awesome man
Springtrap really is the only one that looks like a monster on his own, makes you wonder why they put him up to entertain the kids
Well he is for a horror attraction
@@thegoldendiamond6762 you will ho to hell
Probably looked less creepy when he was new
It is kinda sus that the people who found him just went "noice, this is perfect for our new horror attraction!" and never saw the very obvious pieces of dead guy in there... I have to assume they were just stoned out of their minds
@@Rey_Palpatine The room was boarded up, I don’t think they knew about it.
Can’t wait to see Mathew Lillard dawn this suit as the one who always come back, William Afton.
@@thegoldendiamond6762stop baiting people bro sooner or later some idiot is gonna fall for it lol
@@thegoldendiamond6762 none of us were, and that's just gross and wrong
@@thegoldendiamond6762 Who?
@@thegoldendiamond6762 stop that’s gross bro
@@thegoldendiamond6762 we don’t care
2:06 Mark predicts the fnaf movie
I don't know why but the "Get it? Bears?
...
Like Chica?" Made me laugh hysterically for like five minutes straight
Springtrap is the Sigma(Mega Man X) of FNAF.
Just when you think he's gone, he never is.
I mean, Sigma did eventually stay dead after seven or so games. He never came back in the Mega Man Zero series, as far as I know.
Who knows how many games it will take for Afton to stop coming back.
@@darkskull1982 ,william afton is sama, william is dead in fnaf 6
I really wished they took the path of Vanessa being kind of like the second William. Her being the beta tester that was infected by the voice of Willaim sounds like a good idea. They could've even done something like have her roam the mall like the animatronics and have her roaming dialog be her talking to the voice of William on her head
One thing that made me love Springtrap is that he's genuinely trying to kill you actively, the other animatronics don't do it "on purpose"
It was part being stuck on the animatronics, part following the animatronics limitations itself
But Springtrap? He was for real out to find you and end you for good, just you and him, it truly put into perspective what was actually at stake on FNAF 3
The killing of children went from beinf an atrocious tragedy to being just something he does in the background while he being a mad scientists.
Markiplier crying over five nights at freddys gameplay is the best running gag in history
I think Springtrap wasn't talking in Fnaf 3 was because this was the first time he's ever moved in decades. He's still adjusting to his body which is why moves so jolted and can only snarl. But after he survives the fire, he became more attuned with himself and learned how to talk, even fixing his burnt body.
I think that's what makes him so scary. He doesn't follow the rules of the other animatronics. He if fully aware of himself and moves how and when he wants and only plays along in PS because it's intriguing. He genuinely loves terrorizing his victims and he could never do that with his old body.
I’m still confused as to why he killed kids aside from Henry’s daughter
@@miketrapper0464 I believe he got addicted to thrill of the kill, so too speak.
@@Oturan20 actually I saw one of marks videos I think it’s supposedly was so he can be immortal, idk it could be that or what you said
@@miketrapper0464actuallly no, he only did because he wanted to, he was crazy
@@PAPA42069 ah ok
This might be the most forgiving video on the current state of Springtrap I've seen, and actually it's really nice. Good video dude
You could even say his characters in ruin. Laugh. Laugh now.
“…Bears, get it? *chuckles* Like Chica,”
Why did that get me to laugh so hard…
Afton / Spring trap has the same problem as Sigma from the Mega Man X. Every time he comes back, it not only lessens the current moment, but lessens previous encounters by association
I had that exact comparison in mind about Glitchtrap specifically because he has the same problem. No matter how many times he dies, the writers can always say his data was copied onto another device & if they say he's really dead this time & end the story, it'll be like "Really? Why didn't they have a backup that time? Why would they ever not have at least a few?"
He less feels like THE villian of fnaf, and now A villian of fnaf. Seeing Springtrap in SB "die" no longer feels like a turn in the series when we know that he's gonna come back. What makes a villian scary is seeing LESS of them, we never see bendy be the main enemy of every chapter in BATIM/BATDR, huggy wuggy isn't the main villian of poppy playtime, the less we see of these characters the less repetitive they feel because of how there's now a worry of "if they're gone, who's the next?" It creates a sense of new excitement for the new villian.
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Poppy Playtime's a bad example. It's pretty obvious they're going to use the "self-contained villain" formula for their game's chapters and Huggy's only the face because he's more marketable than Poppy herself.
it was funny when purple guy but now it no funny
That’s partially what made X8’s ending so good, it did away with that.
Springtrap has been the most requested character for Dead by Daylight for ages now
I've seen people say it'd be silly, but... Ghostface isnt seen as silly, and he's typically an angsty teenager, so Springtrap would be more than welcome imo
Im amazed how meticulasly designed Scrap Baby was, with so many neat details, clear scrappy look and you can tell she was rebuilding herself with the little she could find only to look almost reasonably close to what she looked like
In comparisson scraptrap is...... Scraptrap...
Sometimes, villains like these need to stop coming back, because they can get milked dry. Instead, focus on something new, which is what I hoped Security Breach did with Vanny.
I was hoping for that to. But I also wished that Glitchtrap was just an AI copying Afton's behavior That would have been really cool. But no, Afton's back.
The Icon in Ruin series went from Family Guy characters to William Afton.
Thank god the mimic appeared now
I genuinely believe FNAF 3 was the peak of FNAF as a whole. I have always appreciated a mystery, and I think sometimes it’s better to be left wondering than to have a complex answer laid out before you. When it comes to a story, sometimes the mystery alone is compelling enough-perhaps the answer is less satisfying.
That mystery is what kept me genuinely interested in FNAF from 1-4, but as more and more was revealed (“revealed”?) and the story got increasingly wacky, weird, and overly complex, the intrigue started to die for me.
It’s more fun to wonder why this guy murdered a bunch of kids rather than know that he did it because of remnant and because his daughter was maimed or whatever.
Same i find the fnaf timeline way too confusing i miss 2016-17
Fnaf 1-4 are the best games imo
I agree. Purple Guy was way better than anything William Afton could have ever provided
That’s just you.
Not knowing what you’re character’s motivation can make your villain scarier.
To some point for some time but the more situations you put them in, the less it seems mysterious & the more it just seems like they genuinely have no motive. It's like when Half-Life 2 mods end with Gman showing up & saying something vague for no reason when you're playing as a made up character with no significance to the plot. It doesn't raise questions because you know no question will have an answer besides "He's popular".
Not always. It just doesn't have to be extraordinary for the sake of it, like the "searching for immortality" bs. Scott could just say he had a terrible childhood which is usually the case for most problematic people.
To try and stand up for the jumpscares. I love that they are slower almost sadistic. You’re dealing with a criminal mastermind. He’s not gonna jump out in an amateurish manner, he’s going to be slow and meticulous, and almost savoring the moment.
Leaving it up to interpretation what he did to you
I always thought he did it on purpose. Just like how he stares at you from the doorway or from the window, or waiting the player on purpose.
The animatronics from the first games are desperate, he's not.
Doesn't help that it's just, not scary.
I never played the games, but I always loved coming to it on CZcams. The og Springtrap was such a phenomenal inclusion. His teaser, his design, and him being the "final boss" in Fnaf3 was perfect. When I saw him again in Security Breach, I thought, "what have they done to you!?" The kiddification of Fnaf really ruined it for me, and I was there from the beginning when I was a kid.
My headcanon is that the Fazbear brand was too popular to die out. They’ve gotten themselves out of legal trouble multiple times, so I think the idea of the Pizzaplex can still work.
If Vanny was an Afton-obsessed security who broke into the Pizzaplex and rewired the animatronics to do what Afton did in the past, I think that would make a better story.
I also think Help Wanted could work very well if it was a visual representation of Vanny’s obsession with the Fazbear franchise. It would also make it so Glitchtrap is still Afton, but in more of an ideological sense rather than a science-fiction sense.
Overall, I think Security Breach & Ruin have interesting concepts that can still be explored in future games.
A long time ago I compared Springtrap to Sigma from Mega Man X, but the only character who hid himself while he repaired himself better than Afton is Zero.
Someone else literally just commented the same thing and they show up under you for me
I are remember somebody on Newgrounds Forum making the joke about "Sigma vs Afton Rap Battle" or something like that.
As someone who hates playing horror games but really love the lore behind fnaf... I forgot what I was going to say
Nice video tho.
I had taken a break from youtube for a couple months and dude, your art and animation stills caught me off guard with how great they are! They've always been good but I freaking love the new designs, keep it up :)
imagine if in the force awakens, kylo ren somehow resurrected darth vader and they made him the main villain of a whole trilogy again, even though his story was completely finished
Marks new sprites are so adorable, i cant focus on anything else😭
i can
Honestly, I mostly just like Springtrap and BurnTraps designs. Scraptrap just looks like that professor villain from Jimmy neutron.
1:31 GOLDEN BONNIE????
springbonnie
Then why is golden Freddy called golden Freddy if he’s SPRING Freddy
The animation on this vid is actually amazing bro especially the intro wasn’t expecting that great work
I am glad so many more people are analyzing FNAF. Honestly, I live Springtrap as well. In FNAF 3, we see that Spring Bonnie was probably a cute kid friendly suit, but when William Afton was scared of the souls and got spring-locked, he looks terrifying. But the fact that his determination and vengeance was so powerful that he fused with an animatronic is so cool and crazy. I personally think they should have stopped fnaf at either sister location or after UCN. But he is still cool. In Help Wanted, he was terrifying because you saw how he looked at a child's point of view. Sure, security breach was a bit much but still. Anyway good Job Mark. And Congrats on the YouTooz
I ship Elizabeth and Chris Afton just so you know
@The Golden Diamond who is Chris? Or is that the name of the Crying child?
@@thegoldendiamond6762 You've been spamming the same comment everywhere in this comment section. Just for you to know: No one cares.
We both know you're just trying to get the attention your parents forgot to give you, so you type weird shit in random videos expecting others' reactions on your brainumbingly dumb post, so you can feel like maybe someone, out there, might care about you. But that's just an illusion; in fact: the more you make these comments, the less people are going to talk to you, and as your braincells melt in the liquid stupidity of your mediocre self, you finally realise that, Indeed, the only person that laughed was you.
You're not getting attention, you're not getting love, you're just showing yourself as the buffoon you are. So, please. Take a break from social media, go outside, touch some grass, find your Lost father and rethink about your Life choices.
@@thegoldendiamond6762 get a life
@@complex2live the Crying Child doesn’t have a confirmed name so I don’t know who’s that person’s talking about
God your point on the FNaF 3 Springtrap jumpscare is so true and I never see anyone talk about it for some reason. It's barely a jumpscare, he moves towards you so slow and the sound is so gentle, where as in the earlier games the animatronics quickly lunged at you with a sudden, loud screech
I 100% Love Springtrap, and William's character as a whole. And heck, I honestly love the idea of Glitchtrap. This copy or recreation of his malice that infected a computer and then someone's brain, and loved the idea of Vanny being the "Reluctant follower" but they dropped the ball IMO. They did nothing with it in SB and just decided to bring William (Or someone pretending to be William?) back. I liked seeing him honestly but... only because I had like a Fan Boy moment. Now with all the Mimic stuff going on I get a bit confused. I am not sure I love the lore where it's going but... yeah I'm still going to tag along. My favorite thing about FNAF is the characters and the world, and Springtrap is one of the highlights. Also, him curb stomping you in the Glitched Attraction is insane.
He's still one of my favorite characters in the franchise.
His design and concept is still FANTASTIC... it's just the writing that falls short. Kind of reminds me of the underutilized potential of DC's Scarecrow villain.
11:38 “Micheal… I am Batman.”
I'm having a proper marathon tonight, literally all my favourite fnaf channels are uploading
lol
Who are? I would like to go on this marathon too.
0:19 made me spit my drink out that was so unexpected idk why thats so funny
I think for me the best thing about William in those early installments was the ambiguity of his character. For the longest time we didn’t know anything about him beyond the horrific outcome of his murders. We had to use our imagination to paint a full picture of this sick individual and that’s the best kind of horror. However, once Sister Location introduces the idea that he’s just some mad scientist family man trying to experiment with some science-fiction mumbo jumbo “remnant” it kinda sucked all the intrigue of his character out. Suddenly he wasn’t this mysterious serial killer without a face. He was just a caricature of a crazy guy with some grand evil scheme.
Springtrap was special during Scott's era aka actual FNAF but is now just to tear up the lore even more and Security Breach undone slot of Scott's progress
You know what could've been a cool idea? Springtrap getting absolutely pissed at Vanny for reviving him
Think about it. As Mark said, Springtrap has literally nothing left to do, everything he built up is gone. What's he supposed to do? Keep coming back over and over and eventually find something else? So eventually, Vanny revives Springtrap and when he wakes up he charges at her and barrades her, saying that this isn't what he wanted Yada Yada. So Springtrap idk, maybe kills Vanny at that point? This is all just a very loose idea tbh but I think that works way better then just "yeah let's keep bringing back Springtrap"
Honestly? I hope that shit happens in the Ruin DLC for Security Breach.
Dude has nothing to go back to. He’s probably fully accepted his fate in hell, so being brought back for some idiot that worships him probably WOULD piss him off.
So imagine if, in the end, he just says a fuck you to Cassidy and ends himself permanently, by choice this time, so he can say he won in a twisted way by not letting the kids be the one to end him/make him suffer, and drags Vanessa and extension Glitchtrap, who I think is still in Vanny, down with him so he “doesn’t have to suffer alone.” Freeing the kids as a result, ending Afton permanently, but still leaving simple high-tech robots as threats for those who want more of the series.
I mean..the books have the mimic, so they can focus on the mimic, completely separate from Afton after he ends himself and takes every trace of himself left down with him.
That sounds so cool! Even Springtrap is sick of his villain arc being milked dry. 💀
You really helped revitalize my interest in the franchise, as someone who doesn’t care enough to buy the books; your video was really nice to have! Intro animation was sweet too!
"Can't imagine Springtrap managing to get into his local Sainsbury's for a packet of crisps"
Cosplayers: *Allow me to introduce myself*
The idea that went into this design, the origins and also the character attached to the suit, *is truly genius!*
6:02 As someone who wants to be a filmmaker, I always look at these things and think “how would I direct or write this?” And the robots never seen moving is something I’d want to see in the film, you took the words out of my mouth
The problem with springtrap is it went from "holy crap, this dude is the evilest person in the entire fnaf lore. Is there anything that can kill him?"
To now: "oh look Springtrap, i wonder who'll kill him this time. Is he gonna get trapped forever again?"
He no longer feels like a threat, but more of a obstacle that gets up after being pushed down, only to get back up again, to be pushed down... it's less threatening when the main villian feels more like that one enemy in a game who appears in every franchise because the devs ran out of models to use for a character.
Sort of like the lich in adventure time
Seeing LS Mark actually move is the biggest jump scare of all
The whole series needs a full reboot. Basically just remake the first game with better character designs and maybe better graphics, make the second game as unnerving as the first, make the third game play better, and make it more unnerving (basically make all games more scary, Scott seemed to think he had to sacrifice scare factor for lore, which I think most people would disagree with), make the 4th game a little more interesting, sister location should have the scifi element toned down imo, the crazy designs of the characters really killed the immersion of the games in the future imo, then make pizzaria simulator a little bigger (and fix scraptrap obviously lmao), and end on a slightly more serious ultimate custom night, that game was basically just fnaf arcade mode, which is fine, but if it wasn't gonna be serious then idk why it tied into the story. When Steel Wool bought FNAF, that's the direction it should've gone, not digging into the goofy scifi stuff in security breach.
Willaim Afton/Springtrap is the definition of EVIL NEVER TRULY DIES
Elizabeth x Chris Afton never dies either
@@thegoldendiamond6762 Troll.
The divorce papers can write themselves, I've gotta go watch some LS Mark.
Seconds in and I already love the editing! Excited to watch the rest of the video, just got back into fnaf for nostalgia recently and I gotta say that I agree with the video title keep it up Mark!
As someone who doesn't care much about the series I've always said that Springtrap was my favorite, it just stands out so much
As usual the music choices are always so good for each section👍🏾👍🏾
By any chance do you know what the song name is for the third song?
fnaf 3 springtrap jumpscares always scared the shit out of me they are just so uncomfortable his stare and smile are terrifying
I think his ability to reassemble himself in fnaf 6 makes total sense. He created so much advanced tech on the budget of a pizzeria, it's not unreasonable that he could fix his own tech with stuff lying around.