Pro Choice Pastor Asks Pro Life Activist If She Knows What "Heretic" Means
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This is not a pastor. He's an activist
An apostate
all christians are
He's not a pastor of any JudeoChristian faith.
Able to choose the end of life denying existance of , breaks one of the commandments , therefore they worship another God , lesser than our creator , and cast themselves into the ring of fire and brimstone for all of time can provide.
Perhaps the word you’re looking for is evil.
He’s a literal heretic. He’s evil
She was about to say she’s sitting there looking at one.
And a coward
There is so much scripture talking about false preachers like this, especially in our time. Has he even read the bible? I pray the Christians under his ministry leave immediately, for he is jeopardizing their salvation. Modern day Molech worshiper.
James 3:1 ESV
Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.
@@perkyzombie You condemn yourself as you try to condemn him.
@@chasthanhburns123 how so?
"I have no personal experience about being murdered, or assulted , or graped, and therefore, i dont have a right to vote about laws that prohibit these things"
Why can't activists ever answer questions in a straight forward manner?
Because they know they're wrong.
Because they’re cowards and can’t admit they just don’t give a **** about certain people.
Hard to give a straight answer when you're wrong. "Well, if I do three summersault and stand on my head like this, it's starts to make a little sense." - okay, Satan. 😂
Children do the same thing when they are hiding something they have done wrong.
Definitely wouldn’t trust this weirdo around children
He has the prescribed soy face and all.
This guy has huge creep vibes.
Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
His attitude and voice, red flags.
so does she
This is the “false teachers” the Bible warns about
Preach it.
Nah, this guy is just a clown. Look at the behavior of pastors and churches during the pandemic - most of them demurred to the state even though they have a consitutional right and a moral duty to operate. Look at the normalization of LGBTQ agendas that has been happening throughout all of Christianity. Social justice was an actual slippery slope for the church and they went down it face first. We're not far from actual pastors at actual chuches preaching about how abortion is perfectly acceptable and even desirable. The church is no haven against this lunacy.
@@xanderLudahl Actually I think he's an incredibly earnest priest of the Cult of Moloch.
Not all who say “Lord! Lord, will enter Heaven. But, Lord, didn’t I prophesy in your name?”
And Jesus said “Get away! I never knew you!”
Those who love him will follow his will-Word.
Pray for this man’s soul, he is headed to hell.
@@andrewrichards312 Yip your on point, Moloch, that’s the Demon who he is following & sees as the god he is worshipping, NOT God who creates life in the womb. Moloch IS his name that this so called wannabe pastor follows.
“I don’t have a right to have an opinion on abortion cause I’m not a woman” is the same as “I don’t have a right to have an opinion on slavery because I’m not a slave owner” idiotic logic
I don’t have the right to have an opinion on murder because I’m not a murderer, nor was I murdered
“I cannot tell a man with a gun not to shoot someone in the street because I am not a man, and I can’t tell him what to do with his body, hands, fingers. “ Gotcha.
Exactly right. That "pastor" is a deceiving coward.
He isn’t a pastor. He is a pretender
Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
He’s a subversive.
Wolf*
Predator*
To be fair, all pastors, priests and preachers are frauds, a good number of them are however pedophiles
In the bible they talk about false prophets, this man is one of those.
And they have a very apt prescription for how they should be dealt with.
Absolutely! Most people on the stream saw that.
Amen, he will receive his due
Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
He's a poser ,,, a born occultist playing the persona of a religious leader . It's very common, i know at least 2 personally
I'm not particularly religious but that creature has absolutely no business calling himself a pastor. This is the sort of person being referred to when they say "he speaks with a forked tongue".
I love how the man brought religion into the argument and then said how he didn’t want religion to be a dictator of policy
Leave it to a pro-choice "pastor" to call someone a heretic because they are anti-abortion.
Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
@@whosme8221 I don't know what this means in this context, can you please elucidate?
@@TheCrusaderKingHad to look it up as I wasn’t sure of its meaning. -
Scholars suggest this verse belongs at the end of Isaiah chapter 3, since it completes Isaiah's description of what will happen to the proud and wealthy women of Jerusalem and Judah. Isaiah has written that all the ornaments of their beauty will be taken away by the Lord. The foreign invaders who kill and carry off their husbands will leave them behind bald and wearing sackcloth and the brand of the enemy. A "brand," in this context, means a mark on the skin much like the symbols burned into the hide of cattle.
Some men, however, will survive the battles and be left behind when the best and brightest of Judah are carried off into captivity. Many more women will be left behind, though their husbands have been killed, along with perhaps their children.
Because of the nature of this era, those women will be left destitute and humiliated. They no longer have a husband and cannot return to the homes of their fathers. Single women had no standing in society at this time, especially if they had children. Some of them may even have had children as the result of sexual assault by the enemy invaders, making their rejection by the community even more intense.
These women are now so desperate to be made legitimate in their society, through having a husband, that they will compete for whatever men are left available. Isaiah depicts seven grabbing at one man and offering to marry him without expecting him to provide anything for them at all. They will pledge to provide their own support-the exact opposite of a typical ancient marriage arrangement-if only he will give them a valid place in the community. These formerly arrogant women who flaunted their wealth, position, and status will be brought so low as to be begging men to give them the merest form of respectability by marrying them.
These women represent a sinful human instinct in all of us. That is to be independent of the Lord and to glorify ourselves in the eyes of those around us. The Lord wants His people to understand they are fully dependent on Him. His people are to trust Him to provide them all the significance and provision they need. Drawing security from another source only leads to disappoint. He is willing to bring hard circumstances into the lives of His children to draw them close again.
@@TheCrusaderKingNot exactly sure why he posted that scripture in response to the OP.
@@JohnDoe-dr9ff
The dubious "pastor" brought up heresy which is an inherently religious concept. So bringing up scripture in the conversation would not be that strange.
"if you're limiting someone's choices, how is that freedom?"
How about we ask the baby, "pastor"?
Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
@@whosme8221is that only verse you know?
I made terrible financial choices and demanded a taxpayer bailout. This is what the issue of abortion boils down to. Freedom and freedom of choice does not equal freedom from consequence, particularly when it infringes on others' freedoms.
@@Smac_Ker
It would still be disgraceful no matter who was paying for it
If he had read the Bible, he’d know it talks a lot more about obedience to God than it does about freedom. The Satanic creed is “do what thou wilt.” I think this man is confused about which master he serves.
I’ve never heard of a pastor who insist on obfuscating every question regarding morality.
That "pastor" is a coward. That wasn't a conversation. That was a dodgeball game.
This guy was insufferable
He kept going back to “it’s not my place to make a choice for the women”. Such a platitude. Explain what you mean instead of just saying what the culture thinks you should say.
"Before you were FORMED IN THE WOMB, I knew you."
Babam!!!
@@Gods-bad-boyweird name
She's 100% right. Tim's right to ask about 14th amendment & due process.
“If we accept that a mother can kill her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill each other? Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love, rather, to use violence to get what they want.”― St. Teresa of Calcutta
Mental gymnastics to justify murder is always crazy.
Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
Evil…not crazy.
@@basilbaby7678 evil for sure.
Except for when you’re the chosen people. Right?
@@badmen1550
You can cry about war some more.
Meanwhile we're talking about something happening to 600,000 children of ours every year.
The gazflaps can figure out their own nonsense in their own time. Israel isn't going anywhere and y'all lunebats are going to have to get your heads around that fact.
He clearly doesnt know what a heretic is, for he is one.
They know not what they do.
He knows…, but assumes you don’t. A Jezebel spirit.
@@basilbaby7678😂😂😂 u mean Satan himself, in flesh form
She about said she knows what a heretic is cause she is looking at one, but she held her tongue.
@@basilbaby7678there is no such thing as a Jezebel spirit and anyone promoting that is following false theology and is biblically illiterate.
The face he made when they asked about black babies was amazing. He was terrified to say it’s ok to abort a baby because it’s black.
People aren't allowed to choose in A LOT of things. Hence crimes.
This guy doesn't sound like a pastor tbh
I'd say he is, just not of a christian church. He's probably a methodist, non denominational, or other heretical "church".
Cuz his religion is liberalism
Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
He's a false teacher...
He is preaching a religion, just not Christianity
Bro he just made the biggest etymological fallacy imaginable
People like him think it's about arguing for what they want, like a lawyer, instead of accepting the Gospel as it was intended. Christ dealt with such individuals repeatedly during his ministry.
He’s a blasphemous deconstructionist.
You can fool people, but not God.
Hate to burst his bubble, but the term Heresy derives from Heretodoxia or Wiillful Wrong Thinking or The Teaching of those doctrines; which he is committing himself.
@@jameswells554
It means "thinking differently," literally the opposite of what this incredibly dishonest person is saying.
@FreakazoidRobots no
Considering how much damage the no-fault divorce has done, I can't even imagine how much damage no-fault abortion would cause.
that "pastor" is no christian. opposition to child sacrifice has been part of our faith since day one. Jesus loves children
Again....this guy is an Activist.......not a Christian.....
As a Christian, pro choice pastors are a conundrum to me.
Unfortunately, cluster B personalities can be attracted to the role of pastor because of the opportunity for coercive control. The projection here is a tell.
Well said.
As a Christian, I get prochoice pastors because God is pro choice in everything. God allows us to choose hell. God allows us to choose anything we want but God tells us not to!
I don't get this "Pastor" because he should be saying something like I believe people can choose to do what they want but that may have cosmic ramifications for them I think abc is wrong and xyz is right. That's the role of a pastor is to study scripture and have strong convictions of his biblically based opinions.
Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
Keepin’ them mega-churches at capacity with “feel good” doctrine.
@@ArielLothlorien pro choice deals in deception this why they have to mask baby murder with pro choice and God does not operate that way, only Satan mask his true intentions.
The way people refuse to answer simple questions isn't just insulting.. it shows how underhanded and sneaky they are.
That is the most spineless so-called “Pastor” I've ever heard. Disgusting!
This dude definitely did everything possible to avoid answering the question.
He's got those creepy "Manson lamp" eyes. Reminds me of a nightmare shadow creature the way he hunches forward and moves his fingers.
I will never understand how people can argue for this. You are never gonna convince me it is a right to murder a baby.
This pastor has no morals. He won’t answer the question because he’s a monster.
Thank you, Tim, for fighting for unborn lives. My heart breaks knowing that those humans got no choice in living or not…. God bless you Tim! Please never stop fighting we need men like you!
I’ve been in ministry for over 20 years, and one thing I’ve noticed is typically when ministers start embracing abortion is because somebody they love had an abortion and you know longer have the nerve to preach against it.
The same with homosexuality
This only hurts the loved one more, as they should be asking for forgiveness, repenting, and stopping people from making the same choice/mistake.
Sad part about that is they are clearly showing the world who they actually serve by doing that. And they are certainly not serving God when supporting abortion.
Why does a child have to die for someone to be free? That guy is crazy
Crazy right. Like why did Jesus have to die for us to be saved? Maybe it is just beyond you.
@@chasthanhburns123are you conflating child sacrifice with the Passion? Lmao bud go to therapy
@@chasthanhburns123you’re comparing The Son of Man who, in his early 30s, took upon himself all of our sins and died so that we may be saved to an unborn child waiting to be born only for his mother to sign his death certificate so that she didn’t have to deal with the responsibility and consequences of her actions. Do you not see how messed up that is?
@@teddyj9482 that is funny. You blame me for comparing them then finish off by saying the mom kills the baby so she does not have to face the consequences of her actions! Did you forget that Jesus was sacrificed to save humanity from the consequences for their sins?
@@chasthanhburns123difference here is you have to accept what Jesus did. Unless you believe that a persons progeny can harbor all of their sins and absolve them through their death, these two things are not the same and to reason out why they could be, you instead shine a light on the reprobate culture and egocentrism saturated into our society.
I'm agnostic, and I'm sickened by his pathetic and weaseled attempt to avoid answering. As a pastor, you should be able to take a moral stance that supports life rather than death.
This guy can’t answer a simple question. Needs to be pressed! Save all babies
This "pastor" was dodging the question so much.
Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
@@whosme8221: Dude, quit spamming this under every comment. Use discernment; it is much more effective when you limit it to a handful of times at most. After that, it becomes white noise and might even be considered trolling.
@@spk1121 sorry if you feel offended but I just feel so revolted by this pastor whom says he is a Christian but is in fact a fake pastor. He will follow his own truth not the truth of G*d the simple fact is the OT/Tanakh says that if a woman is hurt in men fighting and the baby in her womb dies but it was an accident then the guilty parties are to pay for the child & face the judges. But if their is mischief that means to intentionally kill the baby in the womb it life for life.
Exo 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
Exo 21:23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
Exo 21:24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
Exo 21:25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
Verse 21 is if the baby is lost in an accident not intentional killing of the baby. Verse 23 is intentional killing of the baby. This pastor is what is making Christianity a joke today.
@@whosme8221: I hear you and, believe it or not, I'm saying something because I'm totally on your side. I want you to be _effective_ with your message. When have you ever considered spam a good thing, something you were happy to see? Never, right? That's how people will react to you, too, especially when the verse doesn't seem to apply to a given comment at first glance. Even if you quote the verse each time, preface it with a couple sentences related to what is being said. Don't portray yourself as an unthinking bot, which is how you're coming across, but someone who cares about what other people have written and wants to reply to them in a thoughtful manner. That will go a long way in making people more receptive to your message 👍
@@spk1121 Thanks for the heads up.
This guy cant f'ing give a clear answer because he knows what he is advocating for is evil, he should not be a pastor
Literally can’t answer a question.
Tim, you're like a investigator digging for the truth. This was marvelous to watch. The pro-abortion guy was trying to hide his position in nuance and you kept systematically and methodically removing his hiding spots. Even at times having to make the pro-life lady be quiet.
4:15 If you kill a pregnant woman and the baby dies in the womb, you get charged for 2 counts of murder. That is precedent enough to claim that personhood begins before birth.
From what I hear that isn't true anymore in a lot of areas -- they've actively changed their penal code so that it is no longer 2 counts of murder.
That's true in 30 states.
@@hurkyl1560 its true in the majority of states, so, democratically speaking, that is precedent enough.
@@deanerhar Slavery was precedent until it wasn't.
Such a good point! Hats off to you :)
This guy was lucky lighting didn’t strike him down during this podcast. He’s no preacher.
Hes definitely a preacher, just not of God
Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
@@whosme8221dude nobody cares stop spamming the same verse in every reply. It's not even relevant to the conversation. Matthew 7:15 is the one you should be quoting
@@squorsh That verse is saying that woman/church is not a true pastor but in fact is following his own truth/bread not the word of G*d the bread of life. They are not dressed in the robes/clothes of righteousness but in the garments of iniquity. This man only calls himself a Christian pastor to take away his reproach/shame.
@@whosme8221 Are you trying to lead people closer to Yehoshua and the Father, or or self-aggrandise in smugness at your own knowledge?
What is the point of making a point if it does not connect with others.
You cite Isiah, but Isiah 5:21 clearly says "Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight." Are you doing this to lead others to Yehoshua, or to stroke your own ego?
Maybe it isn't as brief, but quoting Matthew 7:15, Isiah 5:20 and Luke 17:1-2, would do a far better job of getting your point across, without going so obscure that your message gets tainted by a perception of smugness and intellectual superiority.
For anyone else reading this who wonders what those passages say, they are as follows:
Matthew 7:15 - "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves." (NIV)
Isiah 5:20 - "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter." (NIV)
Luke 17:1-2- "Jesus said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come. It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble." (NIV)
Are you posting your comments here for Him, or for you?
Start by asking if a woman should be allowed to terminate based on physical/mental characteristics...straw man into "life of the mother"...into voting.
I still want his answer on the reason behind the abortion.
He can't answer a question. What pastor can't define his own morals? This one.
I am an anti-abortion atheist. This is a good and interesting discussion for me. And that pastor is a joke.
Just to be clear, cus you are not a Christian (and Im not here to argue with you about that). He is not a pastor, he may oversee a cult that calls itself Christian, but he cant be a Christian Pastor while holding that opinion. Holding any blatantly anti-biblical point of view disqualifies you from being a pastor.
Also, I welcome you with open arms into the anti-abortion crowd :)
The “pastor” such a heretic and blasphemer atheist recognize who he really is 😂
He's probably catholic which is a pagan religion not Christian
It's great that you are anti-abortion so I applaud that.
I am a Christian and say God gives all people innate value because he bestows that grace upon all of it. I am curious how you place value upon the baby as valuable in an athiest worldview. Not trying to do a gotcha but curious. I know Hitchens had that view but didn't know his reasoning behind it. Thanks
@@chrismcaulay7805 A lot of different Christian denominations hold a lot of different views on a lot of different things. I don't think one issue disqualifies one person's salvation.
This absolutely is not a Christian.
I think the rhetorical strategy is to be so painful to listen to that everyone else throws up their hands and leaves.
The constitution does ‘grant’ or ‘bestow’ rights. The constitution recognizes certain rights that are inherent to all people that the government should not deprive them of. Because these rights, especially the right to life is inherent to them, there is never any time when they do not have the right to life, no matter when the Supreme Court or anybody else says that they ‘get’ their rights.
You meant 'does not' but yeah
Her response should have been: “everyone in the room knows what a heretic is, so get to your point instead of stalling for time because you have no point to make.”
People can not even answer what a woman is.
Heretic Harry brings up heresy, which is a religious concept, and then wants to keep religion out of the conversation.
Because he is stupid what an actual idiot
In Canada we are offered a test to determine if the baby might have down syndrome as well. It was pushed on us but we refused.
That was 15 minutes of him just trying to avoid answering a question.... He would make a better corrupt politician than a pastor
I have never seen someone try so hard not to answer a question
Other than Jen "Circle Back" Psaki and Karine Jean-Pierre, perhaps!
It doesn't look like he understood anything they said to him.
He gives a politician's answer to literally every question. He is so fucking scared of answering anything. Holy shit.
You are a god damned preacher (of an undoubtedly damned flock, no doubt, but point aside). Stand by your damned convictions.
@@SangoProductions213 He can't because in his heart he knows he is wrong but his ego won't let him actually speak against the evil he is pushing to get virtue points.
Psalms 139: 13, "For thou didst form my inward parts, thou didst knit me together in my mother's womb."
That man is not a Christian. Not one of us.
This “pastors” demeanor is totally defensive and he’s just here to play gotcha. If you look at the body language of the other two they are totally relaxed and have a ton of research on their side. All this pastor responds with is “but woman’s choice tho!” I can’t stand it there’s no substance
Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
Everyone in this comment section agrees with you, but you kill engagement on the video and don't allow the actual arguments to destroy his points, especially as most people don't know what that verse is referencing.
You might even use the words empty and shallow to describe this man's convictions and beliefs.
This guy is the definition of lukewarm. Don’t turn your back on him. Few people are more dangerous than the cowards that will push for positions they will abstain from justifying.
He's not lukewarm. He clearly does not care what scripture says. He will be judged more harshly because he's a pastor leading people astray. God would rather we be cold or hot instead of lukewarm, and he's obviously cold.
The choice of the new human is totally taken away if a woman has a right to chose abortion for any reason she deems.
That was the point. If she doesn't want a girl, does she have the right to deny that person life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
The devil always tempts us with choice.
"What is a heretic?"
Bold question coming from the False Shepard.
This guy isn’t a pastor. He’s one of the apostates Paul warns us about in 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 - “13 For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.”
Thanks for that. I was thinking that Matthew 7:15, and especially Isiah 5:20 were appropriate here (with Luke 17:2 describing their comeuppance), but this is also an excellent passage for wolves sent into the flock by demons.
Some states have Heartbeat laws, that's why it is 4 - 6 weeks, after you can't terminate
I watched this episode and within the first 20 minutes I wanted to ask this "pastor" if he were familiar with the phrase "do as thou wilt, shall be the whole of the law". He is clearly THIS kind of pastor...
This is not a Christan pastor. They may be a cult leader but they're not Christian, not by any definition
Made the same comment. Yep, he is something other than Christian.
I believe the cult you're referring to, is the Cult of Moloch.
Dude's not charismatic enough to be a cult leader.
@@pathfinderlight and yet he's someone in a position of power, supporting child sacrifices to Moloch (read Jonathan Cahn's work).
@@pathfinderlight What do you call a religious group without its own well known name? A cult...
He isnt a Christian, so unless he has a new name for his group, "Cult" is the best we got.
She was so close to saying "I'm sitting across from one"
The title of this video is hilarious in itself.
Pro choice is heresy.
That's a collectivist definition of "heresy". It breaks away all anchors to an orthodoxy or text and drifts aimlessly. It says that if "most" people DISAGREE with abortion, then abortion would be heresy. I don't think he'd be down for that.
The logical answer, in my opinion, to a pro-choicer's question of limiting a woman's choice, is that the woman made the choice when she chose to have unprotected sex which could result in a pregnancy.
This guy is a falstor, nothing but disgust for him
Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
Look at him pretend to not understand the questions so he can dodge them
Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
@@whosme8221 can you explain this reference as it pertains to my comment? :)
We are endowed by our CREATOR, among these are LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness!
How in the WORLD did this guy get in the door with that massive log in his eye?
I love guys like them. They were actually my jumping point into Christianity. Debunking the lies they say put me on a path to finding real biblical truth because I could see so obviously the harm they were spouting.
This comment single-handedly reversed the bad mood that having just suffered through this guy’s mental gymnastics put me in 😂 thank you
Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
@@whosme8221 I'm sorry but I'm not following why you're posting that verse on every thread. I'm not seeing how it pertains to the subject at hand. Honest question.
@@amysnews6808 The word woman in the Bible can be defined as a church in Jer 6:2. The bread is the word of G*d that we are to eat daily. The apparel we are to wear is the robes of Christ thus we are to emulate Christ character in us. This verse is saying that churches will eat or follow their own truth not the truth of the words of G*d in the Bible. They just want to be called Christians or pastors just to take away their חרפתנו chrephanu their shame/reproach. This pastors is basically what we could call a plastic Christian or Christian in name only but not a Christian in truth. So we know that per the Bible in the OT/Tanakh that murder is wrong & G*d knows the person before they were even born from their mothers womb and even before they were formed they were per G*d people.
Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
So for a Christian pastor to say that a woman has a choice to murder her unborn child is the same a saying a man has the choice to murder and sexually assault a child outside the womb as its the mans choice and we are not to take away someone's liberty. This pastor is in fact a wolf in sheep's skin he is nothing but a servant of Satan if he thinks G*d says its okay for us to choose to murder or not. G*d says we have not right to murder but He says if you do murder you will face the judgment. This is why we must repent of our sins to Christ and stop sinning. This pastor seems to not know Christ for would Christ say that its okay to kill an unborn child in the womb? No per the OT/Tanakh killing a child in the womb by accident in a fight by pushing her over the guilty party had to pay for the unborn child. This was because of an accident now if a child was killed because someone hurt the woman on purpose it was life for life.
Exo 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
Exo 21:23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
Exo 21:24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
Exo 21:25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
Luk 17:1 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!
Luk 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
@@alexandria1663 same
He refuses to confront the issue completely
It’s a great indicator that you’re wrong
If we are talking about sin, any mother who aborts their baby is by defintion, more guilty than the innocent child they sacrifice.
Notice how incredibly hard he tries to not answer any questions.
The guy does not want to answer the question. Worse pastor ever.
Choices are restricted all over the place. It's not un-American to put any restrictions on any one actions or decisions. Wtf
If he cannot state what is morally right, he is not a pastor.
Did he know he was supposed to be debating her???
This guy was attracted to the power and authority a pastor has, and he is so full of pride
Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
Some are interested in how close they can get to children
@@noneyabizz8337 That's the vibe I got from that guy. I wouldn't let him in the same building as my kids! Creepy!
GAY PRIDEEEE 🫨
What about prohibiting the choice of the unborn child?
it was such a dumb argument, we have many laws that restrict people's choices for many reasons. dude is a moron
"Butbutbut, they're just a useless ea- I mean clump of cells."
Remove it and have it testify that it wants to live then.
@@chasthanhburns123 Do you suggest we did that with those who are in a coma and hooked on life support ?
@@jollypolly1686 Remove it from it's mothers belly? Ya.
I would never debate a pastor, that can't separate secular and religious beliefs.
If only the good book warned us of false teachers... oh wait.
Holy cow, this guy is a weasel.
i’ve only seen clips of this conversation, but does this pastor have any other argument than “you should be able to choose to murder”?
Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
No, that's all he has....well, it's whatever the woman wants. That was entire argument.
He states “I don’t know, I’m not a woman” to avoid making an ethical decision on abortion. His type would also say that a male that feels like a woman is a woman. So, does that “woman” have the ability to make the ethical decision he avoids? Do they not see the chaos and avoidance of Truth built into their thinking pattern???
You know hes an activist because he cant even stand behind a clear position by not answering the question.
If you stand for nothing you will fall for anything. This so-called pastor is an empty vessel into which progressive morality is poured. His actual job is to take a stand for the Gospel, the solid rock in a world of shifting sands, and empower others to make the same stand.
He is a disgrace to the office. Take a stand, man.
What you are saying is in error. He is doing exactly what his job is, regardless of the role he has assumed as an agent of evil.
@@andrewrichards312 And he may not even realize it.
He must be a pastor of the Church of Relativity.
He will absolutely will not take a moral stand.
The Cults of Moloch and Ishtar would be a more accurate description (if you haven't looked at Jonathan Cahn's work with "The Return of the Gods", I cannot recommend it enough).
Imagine not being able to process a hypothetical.
You just failed at it.
Why does he pretend like he doesn’t understand words and questions?
Good golly, Ive never seen anyone perform such mental acrobatics to dodge literally any question presented to him. From where did this pastor get his ordination, a box of Fruit Loops?
Church of latter day Hollywood satanists, of course
There is no such thing as a "Pro Choice Pastor"
I would have to say that courts have already kinda ruled on this. There are plenty of cases of ppl getting charged and convicted of double murder when killing a pregnant woman.
Since when is protecting the lives of children "religious"?