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wow i'm accidentally early
@@Vlzify nah you're capping prove it and I'll sub
Hey I was wondering if you could do the case of Gabriel Fernandes a little boy from America who was killed by him mum and step dad? Also you are amazing 📎🖤📎
Shoutout to the mom, who didn’t try to cover for her son. Sounds logical to not do so, but it’s quite common for cases like this for the parents to cover their child.
yeah or to pretend they didn’t notice, too many cases like that..
i think a lot of parents of murderers dont want to believe that their child is capeable of doing such things, so they try to defend them
she is still trying to cover for her son
yes that was good of her but I've seen in places that she believes he should be allowed out and I think that's utterly disgusting
Chris watts mum is a great example 🤦🏻♀️
The poor mother, she was just cleaning her son's room. Imagine trying to put away a piece of clothing only to see that you were touching a corpse.
not really though apparently she still maintains her son's innocence or believes he should be allowed out
@@daisyyoung9556 im not excusing it but maybe explaining. It is probably really hard to accept someone you raised for a lot of your life killed someone. This happens a lot with parents so there must be a reason
@@daisyyoung9556 yeah his mum does which is stupid🙄🖐
@@caketin4216 yes i understand that my comment did seem a little rude but this case just angers me so much
@@daisyyoung9556 yeah it annoys me as well no worrys. I don’t understand how a 14yo could just kill like that.
The fact that Josh was continuing to sleep in that bed while Maddie's body was literally inside it is chilling
Literally
@@erikam6164 r/wooosh
right😳
@@gravestonegaming10 ?
@@gravestonegaming10 or just search up the definiton-
this wasn't even a joke lmao idk why you wooshed them
She was in Dance with my daughter. This case was awful we all looked for her. We lined the streets holding balloons letting them go as they passed by the day of her funeral. This affected my daughter to this day.
That's so sad... I hope Maddie's family are better now and have healed from their traumatic loss.
:(
:(
Events like this effect so many people :(
best wishes for you and your daughter x
I love how active she is now
Yes ikr
We love to see it👌
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Yessss I love her videos
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I literally can’t fathom how a fourteen year old could do something like this and keep the body hidden whilst still functioning.. going to school. That is some scary shit, especially the part about the missing poster.
As having been a 14 year old boy not too long ago...you’d be surprised, we think we are adults at that age. He was probably thinking that he had to do what he had to do and there was no going back
Annnnd on top of that sleeping on top of course for a week knowing that it's there and acting like nothing's different.. everytime going in and out of your room knowing a corpse is under your bed is absolutely sickening, crazy, frightening all the above. Like I would've told on myself !! That would've drove me crazy everyday
Its amazing and frightening how a human being can keep a dark, horrific secret like that and still live day to day like it's nothing.
I know, it really doesn’t make sense to me. The smell, the feeling/ lack of feeling of guilt. The missing poster being put up, it’s all so creepy and god knows what he would have grown up to be if he was free in this world.
A narcissistic monster can at any age.
“we’re going to jacksonville, florida”
me: *sitting in my room in jacksonville, florida* huh 😀
ME TOO PLZ
* lives 3 hours from Jacksonville * uHm
This is just a side comment but i want to know, as a Floridian, is Polk County Sheriff Judd as involved in Florida murder investigations as he makes it seem?
Same! I also participated in the search. It is such a sad case for all involved.
Me when any case comes up about Cleveland Ohio👁👄👁, and oh lord are there a bunch😂.
the fact that Josh a FOURTEEN YEAR OLD “had a crush” on an 11 year old girl was the first red flag for me
yeah but it was a different time so it might’ve been normal ??? i don’t knwo. but the parents weren’t bothered by it so i’m guessing that’s why? i don’t know
@@spunchbob8018 i’m just saying he was 8th/9th grade and she was 5th/6th😳
My 11th grade friend was dating an 8th grader🤢
@@cindyunicornz 🤮
@@cindyunicornz that’s disgusting
I couldn't imagine the horror his mom felt when she found that body.
I know! But she still went and told the police, I respect her so much because some crazy moms would try to help their sons😐
I know!!! I was absolutely shocked. I didn't think they'd find an actual body under his bed!!!
@@ericac9975 in a tiktok video i saw about this case, the boys parents actually have been trying to get him out of jail for years and years
@@ericac9975 right, she did the stand up thing instead of trying to cover it up
@@shellyjane8305 😑well great there goes that respect lol, I’m sorry but if my child killed a young child I would tell them if you do the crime you do the time.
Imagine being the poor mother who found the body.... Poor woman....
and having to report her son. i can only imagine how conflicted and horrible she felt and i’m so glad that she did the right thing and didn’t do what some ppl would and protect her evil son
@@lottiephilpotts yeah...
thinking that her OWN 14 YR OLD SON is a murder
@@tylarrr that's actually so tough, i hope the mother is okay after all this. I would feel horrible if i raised a murderer holy shit.
@@whalefood1199 yea
Maddie Clifton was one of my best friends when I was in the third and fourth grade. It was so hard to comprehend what happened back then. She was so funny and sweet and kind. I still go visit her at the cemetery all these years later. Rest easy Mads💜
I can't believe nobody has noticed this comment. I am so sorry for your loss, I can't imagine being exposed to that amount of horrific evil and loss as a child. I hope you are feeling better now. RIP maddie 💖💖💖💖
I am so sorry. I can’t imagine how you feel knowing something like this happened to a friend. I hope your okay, and doing well ❤️❤️
I’m so so sorry for your loss 💕
That’s so kind 🤧
I’m sorry for ur loss :( but Maddie probably misses you too 💜
Imagine being able to sleep on top of a corpse. When you're 14. Thats a bit sickening
Way more than a bit sickening
Understatement of the century
Imagine how bad Justin (the boy who walked her home to get golf balls) must have felt and still feel, he probably never stopped having a guilty conscience about that.
Thank you for posting the first comment that's actually about the tragedy.
@@michelleprieur1 exactly! I honestly don't understand how people just talk about the most random shit instead of the actual case :/ shameful.
@@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive I know people don't mean anything by it but the never ending "omg I'm so early" and blathering about how perfect Eleanor's makeup is gets really old. These are tragedies.
Waiting for part 2
@@michelleprieur1 ugh shut up
Imagine sleeping a few inches over a decomposing dead body for a week of a child you've murdered. I can't imagine the amount of insensitivity and insanity required to do something like this.
Edit: thanks, never got this many likes before lol
Right!? It's truly a mindfuck.
Not only that but also having a missing persons flier of them in the same room.
its sick
@@jocelynsandoval9385 and also being involved in the search team...only to go back home when it’s dispersed and lay right on top of her corpse it’s sick
I would never murder someone and if I did I wouldn't be sleeping on top of their body
That poor poor child, i cant imagine how scared she could of been.
the man is getting re-sentenced in 2 years, the police that dealt with it back then say they regret giving him such a long sentence. i can’t stand police, that poor little girl was murdered and they regret punishing him for it, absolute disgusting 🤢:(
@@charlottek2415 wow, ACAB
Larry sounds like a legit dude tbh. He's just out here keeping an eye on the neighborhood kids so their parents can get their chores/work done. I bet he missed out on doing stuff with his own children b/c he had to work and he knows what it's like. You know, nobody would have questioned an older lady hanging out with the neighborhood kids in the afternoons while their parents are busy.
My neighbor, a retired widower asks my mom and me over when he hangs out on his porch. Almost every house on our block has kids. He had adult kids and grandchildren but they don't live close. He says he likes to hear the hustle and bustle of the kids while he reads or listens to a game or putters in the yard but is worried what people might think if it's just him alone. It makes him feel involved and less lonely to help watch the kids. This year people are more comfortable but the first year? It's sad but kind of necessary to be like this. I see both sides.
And yeah, no one bats an eye about me. 🤷
Reminds me of my dad. He’s so nice and loves being around kids. He’s got really strong parental instincts. The neighbours frequently send their kids over for him to watch if they’re busy. He also has some dirty allegations against him from my abusive mother from the divorce that, of course, didn’t go anywhere. I feel for Larry because he clearly had that smear on him that didn’t go away decades later.
Honestly yeah it’s such a shame there’s double standards like that but Larry was a great
guy and he probably felt terrible that this happened and it was exactly what he was trying to avoid.
I mean when you have allegations place on you considering sexual assault, it's really not a mystery for why someone looks at you weirdly. I wouldn't want my child around someone like that, so I can understand why police was gazed upon him!
I don’t know what’s worse; being the mother of the murdered child, or mother of the child that murdered her.
Um obviously the mother of a murdered child... she will never see her child again, her child will never grow up, never smile at her she will never hear her child call her mummy again. All the murderers mum has to grieve is that her child is a disgrace and will grow up in prison, he will still be alive and she will still be a mom
@@tallulahwring1678 Both if I have to be honest, they both lost their kids in different ways, and one has to live with the fact her kid is a murder. Some people do tend to blame and shun the murder's parent in some parts of the world. Both parents have it bad in my opinion.
@@RikaRieGaming okay but obviously Maddie’s mother has gone through worse. the boys son is still alive.
@@dollfairytopia Then we have to agree to disagree, In my opinion both moms are suffering; it's okay to have a different point of view. Of course the one with the murdered child is suffering the most not taking that a way but I also see the other side of the murder's parents too.
I think they're both suffering in different ways tbh.
The mother of the killer will forever be known as just that - A mum who's son murdered a child.
I can’t process that a 14 year old boy would do this..
have you heard about the recent one of a 14 year old girl who killed her 19 yo sister with cerebral palsy
@@accioyoongi yesss omg
A group of 14-16 yr olds lads were beating a 14year old with a baseball bat round where I live the other day, he escaped when neighbours came out to intervene so I can totally believe that a 14year old would do this.
@@AriaGracefield wtf that’s disgusting
There’s something so much scarier knowing that “innocent” children can be so evil ever heard of Mary bell? She was horrible too and I think she was like 10 as well the boys who hurt James bulger I believe is his name that was a toddler 😢😢😢
At 14 I was excited abouy buying Mountain Dew and skittles..... Couldn't imagine what was going on in his brain.
Supposedly he killed her due to the fact that they were playing baseball (maddie and josh) when he hit her in the eye accidentally and she started bleeding, crying and screaming. he was afraid of getting in trouble with his abusive father so he hit her with the baseball bat again.
@@gwiyomijessi848 still not an excuse to kill a child
@@rockhistoria2537 when did i say it was an excuse? the person i commented to said they couldn’t imagine what was going on in their brain, so i said probably what he was thinking. i in no way think his actions are justified
@@gwiyomijessi848 oh ok
@@gwiyomijessi848 that was revealed to be BS, but it is reported on more since they think it's so much cooler. His motive has been mostly reported as being that he tried to assault Maddie, she fought back, and he killed her. This was mostly based in the fact he was watching violent porn before and after her murder.
I love the fact that you actually take time to talk about the victims and their personal life, usually they get brushed over and forgotten, which is really sad, but you talk about them and that's just really nice that you do that
has anyone ever noticed that when eleanor is doing her disclaimer she says "if its not something you can listen to right now" and idk if im digging to far into it but its basically her saying that even if right now you cant handle hearing something triggering eventually itll get better and honestly thats so sweet edit:yall thats a lot of likes
I agree 1000%! If someone is going through a hard experience like loss or grieving or post traumatic stress, some people handle those things by seeking out information and listening to videos like these. Other people avoid these kinds of things because they are toxic to their mind at that point. And you aren’t locked into either coping “category”, you can always decide when to watch content like this, when you’re ready! (And it’s absolutely understandable and valid if you’re never able to watch videos like these! Everyone copes differently)
To everyone going through a horrible thing right now, I am with you
and you are so much stronger than this thing could ever make you feel. Sending my love to you stranger 🖤⭐️
YES EXACTLY
Omg you’re right. 👩🏻🦰💜
Exactly-- sometimes I have to come back to the video later.
I'm glad she puts trigger warnings, it makes me more comfortable
imagine sleeping with a dead, decomposing body in your room........UNDER YOUR BED?! SLEEPING DIRECTLY ON TOP OF IT?! no, ma'am. very dark sided.
I know right. Every detail of that was disgusting but that was just the tipping point.
@Pizzazz Cabbage what's wrong with birds
I hate “imagine blah blah blah” comments! Go away!
@@MsTinkerbelle87 you go away 💀 it’s one comment out of hundreds you literally could have scrolled past it
"It's dork side-DAAAD!!"
I went to camp with Maddie! This was devastating to my hometown:( thank you for covering this!
I bet Maddie was a amazing girl..
I got actual CHILLS when you described how she found the little girl. Ugh. Poor mom. Poor Maddie. So. Sad.
“We’re going to Jacksonville, Florida”
“Please no”
Me who lives there I’m moving 🤠🥰
Me who watches super size vs super skinny, Jacksonville you say👁👅👁
I live in Florida
I live here, I knew immediately by the picture and the title. I can't stop the goosebumps cos I remember this. I remember everybody looking for her.
oh
I hate polygraph tests because I feel like you could easily get a false reading just because you are nervous for the simple fact that it is a polygraph test
That’s why they’re not admissible in court but it’s still bs bc the results are inevitably going to sway those who read them one way or the other
frr
Exactly. Polygraph results are a load of bollocks, and American cops are thick as two short planks for using them in the first place.
I'm currently going to college to get my Psychology degree. Even psychologists believe that the Polygraph test is a horrible tool to use because people's brains are just wired differently. Someone with horrible anxiety can fail a test, and someone with a disorder like antisocial personality disorder can possibly pass it easily.
Which is why they are inadmissible in court
God, I cannot even imagine being a parent in a situation like this. I get panicked if my little sister doesn't text me back right away when she goes out. I would be hysterical and inconsolable. My heart goes out to any parent or family member of a missing loved one. Sounds like a nightmare come to life.
So was he sleeping this whole week on top of her body? That shows how heartless he is.
Ikr! Like how can you sleep on top of a CHILDS body that you killed. Creepy and disgusting
I feel so bad for Larry, he probably was hated in the neighbourhood until he was cleared
I mean he was accused of a SA for a reason and it was in the 70' so I doubt him getting cleared truly proves his innocence
@@222222ania He had no help in the murder and there was loads of false reports in the 70s. I do completely understand what your saying though
@@222222ania Men are falsely accused frequently and this is why, decades later a murder happens and a dismissed SA claim comes back to harm a man who had the charges dropped against him. Women who falsely accuse men of SA should be punished severely because that accusation lasts for life and can damage for life too.
@@RosieWilliamOlivia Agreed
@@RosieWilliamOlivia men are not falsely accused very often. In fact men have more of a chance of being raped then they do being accused of rape 🤦♀️ rates for false allegations of sexual violence are no higher than those reported in other categories of crime. Most of the less than 2% that make up false claims are because police cannot attain sufficient corroborating evidence and mark it down as no crime.
eleanor is posting a ton lately and i’m LIVING for it
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This sounds like something out of a horror movie. Imagine looking under the bed and seeing a dead body. I’d have a heart attack this is so sad
“Florida is super sunny...”
Me, a native Floridian: Yup.
“Super warm...”
Correct!
“Super nice.”
Not quite, but we appreciate the compliment.
hurricane season✨💖
Nah 💀
I can’t imagine how horrified Melissa must have been seeing a body of an 8 year old girl under her 14 year old sons bed 😨
exactly..
Probably happy for the free dinner
@@ItsMe0274 I get that you’re trying to be edgy but this was a real person
She probably was terrified.
Seems premeditated in away how sick he slept on top of her how twisted would u have to b did he go to bed every night reliving his crime with her in his bed like that my stomach is turning !!!!!! Imagine if he wouldn't of got caught probably would of grown up to b a for sure SERIAL KILLER !!!!!!!
So I’m American and we call torches flashlights so when she went “she went to grab a torch” I thought of her bringing a medieval open fire torch lol
Same 😂
😂😂
im sorry i laughed but its
*medieval
@@berries922 ty lol, I’m very dyslexic and that was the glory of auto correct
same HAHA
I can’t even imagine how that boys mother must have felt finding that body must of been so traumatic for her
I would be terrified if I was Josh’s Mother and I would’ve been crying so hard because I had found a little girl in my sons waterbed
I WAS LITERALLY JUST THINKING “I RLLY HOPE ELEANOR COVERS THIS” AND HERE YOU AREEE OMG
Sameeee
YESSS SHES SO ACTIVE
gosh i love her
I really hope she covers the Brandon teena story one day
Same I’ve always been into this case
When I am teaching my kids about “stranger danger” , this is a tragic story I tell them about. You have to be careful, even if people aren’t “strangers”. Our world is a sad place sometimes. God bless Maddie and her loved ones.
Be careful with that though, abductions and abuse usually come from inside the family, not from strangers. That campaign made more harm than good preventing child abductions. Teach them the signs of grooming and all these things too, so stranger or not, they can identify them and be safe x Hope you and your kids stay safe, take care and love each other, we’re all we have ❤️
@@MichoacanaRobertson trust me I have covered all aspects of this with my children. Aunts, Uncles, Grandparents, cousins, family friends, Teachers, and coaches...... the list goes on and on(sadly). I have made it very clear what to watch for!! I do not sugar coat this subject.
@@marnienaylor8550 U sound like a good mom.
@@marnienaylor8550 thank you for keeping your children safe.
@@marnienaylor8550 it’s sadly a really long list! You can never be “too careful” with kids, have to protect them at all costs!! You sound like a great mum though, so I’m sure they’ll be okay and grow up to be functioning adults that can defend themselves in this crazy word we live in.
I just find it alarming that a 14 year old is able to murder and hide a little girl in his waterbed, in his bedroom and no one took notice for a week. Absolutely chilling and scary to think about …
They acted like baby sitters not cops .. I can imagine that helped put her at ease more than they could know
this was a very strange and disturbing case. i watch true crime a lot and sometimes i feel like i’m desensitized. definitely not. this freaked me out. outstanding job covering the case. rest easy maddie.
I agree.
yeah.. this one is especially horrifying
Yes I was thinking the same thing! This case has really quite disturbed me and made me feel uneasy. Such a horrible thing to happen to such a nice little girl :(
I had the same feeling. I’ve seen lots of graphic gore, watched tonnes of true crime but this case by far has creeped me out the most. The boy (whom looked like a regular normal 14 year old in the picture) happily slept right on top of a dead, rotting little girl for like a week. Like what the actual-
Won't be eating lunch alone again perfect timing!
I'm eating lunch too! Yayyy
Hey, me too!!
LUNCH!!! its 9pm
It’s 9 at night for me but supper maybe
@@stevenmiles7213 its 1:10pm here
may she rest in peace :( she seemed like such a sweet little girl, my condolences to her family and friends.
can't be the only one that sees emma watson.
searched for a comment about that!!!!
Yessss that’s why I clicked
Finally ! I was looking for this comment 😱
Yesss I thought this
Yeah she looks like Emma Watson when she was young!
I love that she tells you when she’s goina be speaking about children and sexual assault before she gets into it I personally don’t have problems but I know it does make some people really uncomfortable so I’m happy she thinks about that before getting into it
she’s so considerate of her viewers
So many people make fun of trigger warnings when genuinely, it’s just being considerate of others around you!! I appreciate Eleanor’s care.
ikr i was sexually assulted when i was 4-17 (thankfully i tried tms and ketamine treatments which helped my anxiety and depression a lot especially with outbursts) and i had to skip it lol so i really appreciate it too!
@@kenzieleigh4628 I'm so glad you were able to get help and figure out what works!! I'm in therapy rn and trying to figure out what works for me. I wish you nothing but peace and contentment on the rest of your journey
I love how she does this also. Not many channels take the time to give trigger warnings
Eleanor’s cases: 👹⛓🔪🔞
Eleanors personality: 💖🎀✨🧸🌸
Lmao "Eleanor's cases" all crime cases are horrid in some way haha
This is copied lol
“Florida is super sunny, super warm”
Not me in florida freezing while taking my dog out cause I didn’t grab a jacket and it’s in the 40s...
40°f is not freezing
@@omg-kb8oc It certainly is when I’m in a sports bra and thin pj shorts with wind chill. No need to gate keep being cold my guy
@@hannahstolzer2085 nah that’s burning in the uk we would all dye of heat exauhuation
@@itzrubyleighxoxo4074 Lmao 40 degrees Fahrenheit is around 4 degrees Celsius so I’m not sure about that
@@hannahstolzer2085 wait what I have no clue what tepreture is anyway sorry
Her childhood sounds so much like my childhood. My sister was my best friend, there was lots of kids in my street and we would knock on the doors of our friends to ask them out to play. My mum would send me out on my bike to find my sister at tea time. It's so scary how similar it was.
mine as well
How could you sleep with a little girl dead under your bed? That's sick.
He slept on the floor of his parents’ room.
@@MaddysinLeigh i mean its still wrong
As soon as i heard about his birds smelling, i knew something was wrong. Parakeets aren't supposed to smell like that.
@@misskayla._4167 oh 100% yes!
I live in Jacksonville. It’s horrible here. The crime rate is insane, the crash rates are even worse. I’ve seen people randomly pull out guns in traffic and in public. I can’t fathom why anyone would ever want to intentionally live here
im sorry that you have to live in such a place, I couldn't imagine the constant fear everyday. I hope you can get out one day.
I feel bad for you
Haha right ?! I was born and raised here. Lol.
Its shitty , yes. Depends on what side of town u live on. There are good and bad things about everywhere. Tbh. Unless you have a goood money flow , then you can choose somewhere better , if not then you love in middle class places like jville and other places like it. Its all about how you make it ! Lol
@@LillbitAlley facts though. Unless you’re rich or upper middle class, this place is hell. The rich and white privilege absolutely reeks here
Oh somebody finally covered this story! I recommended it to another CZcamsr a while ago, but it was still jarring seeing Maddie’s face right now as I scrolled through CZcams. I went to school with Maddie. She was in 2nd grade (or maybe 3rd) while I was in 1st. Although she was a grade above me, my neighbor/close friend was in her class and a classmate/close friend of mine was her neighbor/close friend (I hope that made sense). It was incredibly traumatizing for everyone at our elementary school when this happened. Looking back, it’s so odd remembering the conversations 1st and 2nd graders were having about murder, not to mention murder of a close friend and fellow child. Adults obviously tried to speak with us about it a certain way, but I distinctly remember the conversations we as children had alone trying to make sense of it. I remember us referring to her neighbor/murderer (who my classmate also knew) as her “playmate.” We’d say “her playmate did it.” There were facts of the case we got wrong that I didn’t even realize we’d gotten wrong until adulthood because they had just become facts in my head from these childhood discussions. But I distinctly remember the innocence in how we spoke of it; “her playmate hit her in the head with a ball by accident and got scared.” He had also gone to our school, making everything very close to home and deeply confusing. I also remember my classmate/friend, who I mentioned was Maddie’s close friend and neighbor, tearing up as she talked about just trying to go home but news reporters stopping her and harassing her with questions. She said she was crying really hard while answering their questions and just wanted to go home but they wouldn’t leave her alone, and she couldn’t understand why adults were doing that to her when they obviously could tell she was so sad. That was very hard to comprehend as a 1st grader. I appreciate this is getting attention because Maddie, an all around nice, bright, and kind girl, deserves the mourning. Our whole city was shook by this, it was on every TV. In fact, my parents would frequently pull us out of restaurants if they had it playing on the news and we’d go to a different one. I appreciate my parents trying to protect us from it but it was impossible. I’ve heard that the murderer has asked for forgiveness and wants to be released from jail. From someone with a connection to the victim and the story, I firmly believe he does not deserve it. No forgiveness. Not only did he take Maddie away, but he traumatized hundreds of children in the process. Parents too. He made the world feel unsafe for us and that’s not something I’m willing to forgive. Of course, the biggest victim in this is Maddie, followed by her family, but Maddie’s friends and classmates were also victims too. If your child goes through a trauma like this, I recommend you talking to them about it often and in-depth. I respect my parents and my friends parents’ desire to try and “protect” us from this by avoiding talking about it and turning the TV off when it came on the news, but the reality is any spare moment alone, your kid will be talking about this with their friends and if you don’t guide the conversation for them, their confusion will be even more traumatizing for them. Just a short PSA from someone who experienced this. RIP to Maddie, a girl who continues to be greatly missed.
EDIT: I hadn’t watched the video yet when I wrote this and I’m very concerned by the mention of this being on Tik Tok. Can anyone explain it to me? I really hope they’re not insulting Maddie’s memory or making light of this.
The reason why you found out so much is you were allowed to go to school. I was homeschooled by my legal guardian on duke road three streets away which basically meant when you were at school I had to figure out my school work on my own or face a "teacher" who would scream at me for being stupid. I vaguely remember anything about it at the time besides I was only allowed to go in the front yard and the backyard even when I wanted to ride my bike. My only freind was a longhaired tuxedo cat named Sebastian who was subsequently shreaded by one of the neighbors adopt a greyhound s after one of Kathy Dennis's piano students let him out. She had Sebastian declawed so he couldn't even defend himself. We got a call the next day she and I went to get him and when she saw him she was going to leave my best friend mangled in the gutter. I at 9 had to be the grown-up and pick up my freind and put in in a garbage bag and bring him home. But I had no freedom and no one would tell me anything besides because I say so until I was 13.
This is why children need to be protected more. Teach them to avoid strangers and family friends as well.
family friends? that’s a little paranoid
@@featheredtadpole9778 no it’s not. *Anything can happen* watch once your leave your child wi to a family friend your child could be gone when you get back and/or murdered. The world is crazy.
@@HarryPotter-hd7dr you might need to make better friends then if you do trust them that much. and honestly, if you really wanted to protect your kids from all possible harm you should probably lock them up in a basement and just never let them out because they could get bitten by a snake or struck by lightning. I understand that there are risks with anything, but sometimes it’s just part of life. You can’t live being afraid of the entire world. Someone very wise once told me that you should always assume that someone is a good person until otherwise proven, because most people aren’t murderers.
@@featheredtadpole9778 don’t think I know that? You said that like it won’t happen with family friends when it can. So I’m saying that it’s not very paranoid when it could happen, even with trusted friends sometimes. And many people are murderers, many people are. ill assume that their either a bad person or a good person until they prove that they are good, that’s just me you do you.
@@HarryPotter-hd7dr you’re right, it’s sad but that’s just how life works
If you want to skip the advertisements then story starts at 4:42
Thank you :)
thanks😁
Really thought that with such a sensitive case she would have toned down the advertising or not rambled on at all at the start. Then to have vpn highlighted at the top of the comments after watching something so dark and sad! Weird.
@@cassie4456 yeah, but youtube also doesn’t give her money for covering these cases so the only way she can get an income is by promoting things but that’s why i’m sure she did it in the beginning rather than the end so she can get it over with :)
@@cassie4456 this is a really light case compared to things like junko furuta and the hello kitty murder. those types of cases there shouldn’t be ads but this is just a regular case where she needs to get paid.
*Eleanor Neale notification*
Me: STOPS EVERYTHING IM DOING AND WATCHES
SAMEEEE
Same
A police officer that my family knew always said that: *"If a child goes missing, after 24hrs we're looking for a body."* because as you said the chances of finding a missing child goes down dramatically as the hours go by. I feel so horrible for that little girl, I hope she has peace in the afterlife.
I was a few months younger than her and lived in the same town. I remember all the adults talking about her being missing and what happened to her. Her murder broke everyone's heart. I even have a cousin named after her in her memory.
“The body under the water bed”
The ad I was shown: *Beds*
OOP-
Creepy
I got bamboo bed sheets lol
Lol I got a furniture ad
Wow I got a chocolate one
i’m really glad that the boys mother didn’t try and cover up for her son because a lot of mother’s will do that! much respect for her and I can’t even imagine how terrified she must’ve been when she found the body may that innocent little girl rest in peace. 💔
*mothers :)
Supposedly his parents are trying to get him out of jail
@@her4837 yikes :/
@@her4837 why
yeah
“Florida is super sunny, super warm, super nice.”
Me: sitting inside my apartment in Florida listening to my crack head neighbors scream at each other while it’s only 50 out.
50 is warm here in Mass
@@flan6449 yeah I would never want to go to mass.
@@flan6449 Massachusetts is one of my favorite states. The New England states are the best in the country IMO.
but what you said is definitely what i thought living Florida would be like
50 is warm mate haha
50 °C? oh my-
The hottest I ever got was like 33-35 °C.
I actually know Josh. He was one of the four people I wrote while studying criminology and forensic science.
Any interesting “unknown” things come out of that?
Omg omg. Maddie was my BLOOD cousin. My grandmas name is Toni Clifton , so her dad was my great uncle , So technically she was, we called her my cousin. But , yeah just wanted to share that. I wish that she could have continued to grow up her family. Beautifullll life taken tooo fast . I wish I could share our photos together when we were young. But I was about 3 when she was about 5-6 I've been following her case for so long and it's really cool that you are doing this case ! SENDING LOVE FROM JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA !!! 💌💌💌 Thanks for the awesome videos !!! 🍓
I'm so sorry for you... I really feel for you
i’m so sorry for your loss xxxx
Sorry for your lost, she’s in a better place now
My condolences. It's truly tragic and terrible what happened. I don't understand how people can be so cruel and insidious.
So sorry for your loss! ♥️🙏
For anyone else who pictured a wooden stick on fire when she said “torch”: I looked it up and apparently it’s a flashlight.
In aus we call a flashlight a torch so weird that it’s not wildly known hahaa
@@reneebradley7831 lol yeah, if you said that in the US you’d get some weird looks from people being confused and/or concerned haha. (Because in this case the woman was inside and I was worried she’d burn her house down, lol)
Yeah because In English that is what a torch is. American English (simplified English) had to obviously rename it so people over there could understand it .....
@@Imagummybearpop I’ve never looked into the history of flashlights before, but from very brief research I found that us Americans called them flashlights because they originally only worked for brief “flashes”. Hence the name. There’s all kinds of things that are called by different names in the US than they are in England and Australia. Like don’t Australians call flip flops thongs? In the US that’s skimpy underwear. And then there’s cookie/biscuit and French fries/chips. I don’t think it’s necessarily simpler to decide to call something by a different name. In the US, if you say torch it implies fire. What do you guys call torches, then, since that’s your word for flashlight? I’m genuinely curious.
@@jamieb2235 the last part. I'm also curious lol
Thank god the mother was a decent person imagine if she had helped him dispose of her he would have got away with it.
I've been born and raised in Jacksonville, fl. I'm 33, lived here my whole life - and I will never forget this case and the effect it had on my city and my community.
When I hear a case is in Florida, I automatically brace myself for the most disturbed crimes/killers I can imagine.
Welcome to Florida ; the serial killer state
Whyyy though😂😂 I’m from Florida and honestly I never ever hear or see any of these crazy things in real life only on videos like these
@@sherieka1100 @Sherieka Pollock I lived in an area of Florida where a naked cannibal ate a man's face off in broad daylight on a well traveled road. Every day I had to drive over the bridge that they force all the sexual offenders to live under. Florida is insane. I was so terrified of breaking down on that bridge at night, imaging being swarmed by violent sex offenders.
@@giabarrone7422 I’m sorry you have to worry about that i would be so paranoid
@@lagncx3700 Thanks, but I haven't lived in Florida for a long time. I would read the news there long after I left, because the crime section was crazier than the plots on prime-time crime dramas. There is a reason the "Florida Man" stereotype exists.
Honestly as an older sister, I've felt the dread and anxiety you get when you're shouting your little sister's name trying to find them. All the thoughts that must've been going through her head. Luckily, my sister's still with me. (Nothing happened she just walked off) Bless this little girl, I hope her and her family are well ❣
I'm an older sibling, the terror that fills you is bonkers...
yelling out my sister's name and she doesn't give me an answer gives me the biggest anxiety 🤦♀️
The worry I felt when my brother went out to do stuff when he was a kid is unreal...Once when we were walking out (For the life of me, I can't remember why it was just the 2 of us), a guy ( early to mid 20's at the time, I guess) I remember my mom talking to in passing came up and gave my brother a hug so tight he literally lifted him off the ground, (mind you, my brother was around 7 at the time, and I was around 11, 12) and it freaked me out so much thinking that this guy was going to run off with my brother and hurt him. That older sibling instincts went off the charts and I immediately started thinking of ways to get help and still track my brother when that guy let him go, said bye and walked off. I still don't know why a guy would just hug a kid he's seen only once the way he did. People always talk about a parents instinct to protect their kids but almost always overlook an older siblings instinct to protect the younger ones, even if it means getting hurt themselves.
I was born in Jacksonville Florida, & still remain in the area, and I will NEVER forget this case. The entire community was involved in the search for Maddie to no avail. Finally, police announced the search was ending, & they'd found Maddie's little body within her neighborhood, underneath a teenage boy's waterbed. 😟
Agreed! I was in high school then and also participated in the search. The entire city was shocked with this case.
R.i.p Maddie. I can only imagine what her family's going through. Maddie i don't know You but You seem like a beautiful kind girl, You Will always be remembered fondly in our corazones ❤️
Props to the mother for doing the right thing
Who else didn't hear about this case before?
Me! 👋🏻
I watched someone else who covered this case but this is done better
meee
I am 100%!!!!!! Feeling dejavu with the thumpnail and the ENTIRE story.... but when I looked she hadn't covered the case before
@@peacepeacegirl1014 OMG sameee
this case kinda reminds me of one that kendall covered with the mean girls one. like she was comforting and crying with the parents of the girl she killed who was supposedly her friend
Maddie went missing on the same day of my wedding, November 3, 1998, same city. On our way to south Florida for our honeymoon, news was spreading about Maddie. When we returned to North Florida a few days later, flyers were at rest areas, on people’s cars, all the way up the coast. I will never forget her. RIP Maddie.
If I had to take a polygraph test I'd fail because of my anxiety and social phobia. So I'd be screwed. XD
Same. Lie detector tests aren't reliable since it tests emotional responses. A psychopath could easily pass it by lying and an anxious person could easily fail it by being honest :/
@@whyareyoulikethis2819 Exactly! Its disturbing that a psychopath can keep a straight face. Especially if they murdered someone...oof
THIS IS SO WEIRD I LITERALLY SAW THIS CASE ON TIK TOK AND WAS TRYING TO FIND A DOCUMENTARY ON IT TODAY AND OFC ELEANOR NEALE COMES TRHOUGHHHHHH
I was a boy. They were two girls. Can I make it any more obvious? I am the ULTlMATE L0VER on this platform. Don't enter my ch*nnel if you are not above a certain age, dear nico
Every time
Omg sameee
Same-
@@AxxLAfriku pardon?
I can’t believe this boy,
Josh is absolutely disgusting, the fact that he pretended to help them
My son ran off once and I panicked so much. It felt like I couldn't take a full breath and my heart wouldn't make a beat until I finally saw him.
It was a few minutes (this time...) but the longest few minutes of my life. I collapsed sobbing squeezing him tight when I finally found him. I can't imagine if I never found him. Or worse...found him in the worst way possible.
let’s appreciate the amount of work she puts into these videos..
And how much she posts
@@karrots8412 yep!
Imagine trying to fix your kids bed and you find a body.
I... don’t wanna imagine that tbh 😳
Brooo my worst fear is coming home to find like 20 fingers (I have only two family members) tied to string hanging from the ceiling
@@moonmaster8588 that’s oddly specific, why only fingers and not other body parts?
@@robbieboydudeguy bc you can’t hang a whole decapitated head from a ceiling
@@moonmaster8588 Yeah but why not like, an arm or a foot or something? Or eyeballs? You could hang those with some strong thread and toothpicks and some patience
Eleanor neale is the only CZcamsr who I can acc sit through and watch their whole vid
These kind of stories make people more aware of their children. I appreciate the awareness the families spread. My heart goes to all.
i will never trust someone who sleeps on a waterbed tbh
@Pizzazz Cabbage 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Umm what is a water bed?? Umm sorry for asking but in our country we dont have those thats why i m asking
@Pizzazz Cabbage if it has water doesnt it get mold or does it not rots??
@Pizzazz Cabbage thnks for answering but what i really found weird is that boy trying to hide a corpse in that water bed he is sick in is mind😫😨
Parents had one and were abusive terrible people, you might be on to something.
Eleanor is not only intelligent, well spoken, and sassy but is also absolutely stunning!
Yess omg. She’s so beautiful and her make up is always so prefect
Yesss we need a makeup tutorial
Her wings are fierce ❤️
frrrr she’s so well-spoken and breaks down everything so well
Plus, she says, "bébé".👶💭
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I being american cannot believe how easy on the ears Eleanor's voice is the way she speaks in a nice day to every word and syllable is music to my ears how do you learn to talk like that and plus I really do enjoy the content I'm a first-time watcher this is my first video of hers I'm impressed have a nice day
Binging Eleanor's videos and tidying my room is a mood
I get such a morbid feeling when eleanor says a specific date.
Wait...I don't get it. Why do you get a morbid feeling when she says a specific date? I'm definitely missing something here.... :/
@@remmilayne6153 because every time she says a specific day she means the day when the victim dies
Omg me too! And then I start thinking back to that time and what I may have been doing whilst this was going on!
I feel so terrible for both families in this situation...I can't imagine how Maddie felt and how devastated her family is, and not mention how horrified Josh's family probably is too. My brother is 13 and the thought of him or his friends doing this is so upsetting.
imagine finding a whole dead body in your son's room, im so glad she told the police and didn't cover for her son
"Suh todayys vidiuhh!!" is like seared into my my brain now, I'm conditioned to get hyped when i hear it lol
Can I just point out the fact that josh had a crush on maddie’s sister? He was 14 and she was 11, three years isn’t bad normally but when you’re that young that is so weird
i think when all partied involved are kids you cant really judge or blame. everyones a child, nobodies mature. a 14 year old is more mature but kids be wild and dont generally understand the complexities we do, its not like a 14 year old is oh so mature in comparison ygm. but i do get your point
Yeah I thought that was kinda weird too, while three years isn’t usually that bad, 11 and 14 are two different maturity levels in life
Its like a 14 year old and a 17 year old so wierd
I mean i find it weird too, but to me anyone one year younger than me feels too young for me to like lmao
Mostly because i feel like i drastically change every year, so i assume other teens feel the same. Well it makes sense im still a senior in highschool i guess
It can depend, like if he was barely 14 and she was nearly 12, that would basically be a 12 year old and a 13 year old, wich is pretty normal. but like not defending this guy.
I can’t believe he did that he was only 14 he’s bloody disgusting!💀🤢🤬😡
Ikr, it's sickening
YES IKR SO DISGUSTING
I remember this story. Imagine being Josh's mom, finding that little girl's body. How awful. Poor Maddy.
at the golf portion of the video, it looped twice when ur saying that they "ran out of golf balls and that maddie went to go get her golf balls from home"
I thought I was crazy
Could you imagine being the mother of a boy & finding the little girl that's been missing under his bed where he's been hiding her?! Omg I can't even imagine the pain, fear, confusion and guilt...
That’s what’s so shitty about crimes like these. Everyone loses, the murderer’s family as well
a 14 year old having a crush on an 11 year old. THATS DISGUSTING
Ikr
yeah dude is clearly messed up in many ways, so sad
It's not uncommon as it's only a 3 year age gap but the situation that happened with it was disgusting..
@@tinnycan5303 age gaps are relevant when kids are minors. a 20 year old and a 23 year old is fine, but a 14 year old shouldnt like an 11 year old. two different mental ages.
@@niaram It's not necessarily didn't mental ages. It depends. I don't think an age gap that small is necessarily creepy or inappropriate.
The fact that he only 14 when he killed her makes it even worse
i literally just have your mystery videos on repeat and listen to them while i’m working at my jobs and honestly you get me through my shifts 😭 x
She kinda looks like young Emma watson
I was waiting for someone to say that
@@jostewart3192 😂😂
i thought that too
what a monster. can you imagine being his parents?? that much evil in a kid that young, he would have Def grown up to be a serial killer if he wasn't caught now.
His dad was a piece of shit, and is probably a big part of how Josh turned out.
@@MaddysinLeigh u r responsible for your own actions
@@saira9632 you are, however certain types of trauma DO impact developmental growth and can cause people to commit violent crimes in adulthood or adolescence.
@@saira9632 Its not an excuse but an explanation.
@@saira9632 I never said he wasn’t responsible. Our childhoods shape who we are, tons of people have had worse childhoods than Josh and turned out fine. It doesn’t justify what he did, it just shows why he became who he is.
This case hits close to my heart because I'm a mother and I'm just in tears how could anyone do something like that? I feel so bad for the family 😭