THE PAIGE DOHERTY CASE
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2018
- Today's true crime video is about Paige Doherty, a 15 year old girl from Scotland.
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I believe the moms theory that he tried something and she denied him.
Is that Jimin in your background?
Kendra Melesky I agree because why would a 15 year old girl with a boyfriend try something with the Delhi man it doesn’t make sense
Yeah me too that is definitely what happened scum bag should never have had anything taken off his sentence
We have the same name :D
Kendra Melesky yes me too. I think he made a sexual advance towards her and then maybe she threatened him by saying she’ll tell everyone so he thought the best thing to do is kill her.
It's scary to think if she just went to the other shop, this wouldn't happen.
Maybe it would have happened the week after. Or a month later. :-(
Not scary it’s sad 😔
@@alyssamariah235 its scary to think and its sad she went through this xx
Mia Presland yep ❤️
Sadie Sullivan you’re proud of yourself?
It's so horrible to think that this man was literally a father of two children
One who has the same name like his victim 😥 He's a devil
Daughters as well🥺
Imagine being a mum and u have to tell your kids your dad killed someone
fr. its sadder when they are child predators WITH childeren. its disgusting
His kids are probably so depressed
So he murders a defenseless girl who rejects him...and the court's like "omg totally ur sentence is way too long"
Like...piss off. Wow.
misogyny
@@laureauvray7948 definitely. If he had killed a teenage boy he would've gotten more time; they forgive him because at least it was just a girl.
The patriarchal justice system in action. We have the same here in Australia. How dare a girl leave her house looking pretty and expect to not be raped and murdered. Of course she must have been blackmailing him for a job making sandwiches all day (when she already had her dream job). The male run justice system in action (where men here used to get off for raping their wives because "they didn't do their duty"). Sick.
@@Odette321 I agree.
they want us 2 go ape shit on these imports!! and i fkn will if shit keeps getting let off !!! wtf
The biggest red flag is that she literally didn't come out of that shop until he brought a bin bag out
I dont understand how he carried her in a single bag. Eleanor mentioned her body was found whole, not chopped up or anything
@@clod148 remember, she was very small, she was under 5'0 and very petite. I think that is why her stature was so emphasized in the beginning of the video.
@@Cr0ssmyheart96 yea. She was 4'8
Edit:"grammar mistakes fixed"
Chloe Dobson she said that “human legs were found”.
@@st4rl0ver no the body was hidden and then somebody just saw the legs of the hidden body.
I love when people say “wouldn’t hurt a fly” and I just think about all the times I’ve killed flys.
Very true especially in the summer.
yeahh i hate them to bits they scare me
@@mehek5948 I squash them to bits 🙈
I’ve not killed a fly, but I’ve killed a spider. Beware of me, I might just pinch u up in some paper lol
(If u don’t get it I’m gonna cry lol)
Ikr lmao
Imagine actually being hit with the bag then growing up to realise you was hit with a dead body. I can’t even imagine how horrible that’s be
that will scar her for life when she realizes what was in that bag
What bag
@@daniels1263 the bag John carried to his car in the CCTV cameras, he ended up hitting a child with it, accidentally (i believe).
@@daniels1263 Pay attention, darling.
💀💀
If someone kills someone and it wasn’t self defense, they should get life in prison. No matter what.
I don’t necessarily agree with that but I get where you are coming from
i agree
@@kadiiixox8574 why not?
@@kadiiixox8574 why not??
Because it could have been a murderer that they killed but not for self defence of that makes sense xx
I love the fact that she doesn’t use unnecessary sound effects to make it more dramatic. It’s just her talking, telling it how it is.
YerARavenclawEmma 13 just say Shane Dawson
I can't stand that fucking shit lol
Amen, no loud sound effects, jarring imagery or music - it's wonderful
this is exactly why she's one of my favorite true crime youtubers. i honestly never checked out her videos before because i thought it was like that but finding out her videos are just her talking i am binging all of her videos sjnks
It's also more respectful for the victim and her family, I don't know if it's the same for you but when sound effect are used for that kind of video, I feel like I am watching a tv series and not an actual crime
Why the hell did they reduce his sentence like what... a young 15 year old girl was brutally murdered. I don’t care if it was his first murder. He should get life in prison without parole.
Cool Sisters Show I thought paige’s mum said she didn’t look 20 sooo....
makes no sense to me, i would like to ask the judge that question a child killer normally would get a full life sentence like the killer of april jones.when he comes up for parole hopefully her parents will be there to block his release .
Yes, first murder, so why not give him a shot at another?
^^^ I was gonna say the same thing 😂 it’s not exactly like a DUI or a misdemeanor charge where you get a lighter sentence because it’s your first offense. Also, how do we know it’s his first murder? Maybe it’s just the first time he got caught. Clearly he’s capable. Sickening! I hope he rots in there. So scary to think about how Paige just went to do something as normal and mundane as going to pick up a sandwich and never would have thought she’d be walking into a dangerous situation.
@@bogratful n0mlllllll
the fact that he said “i would never want this to happen to my little girl” but then murdered paige is so sad :(
I need stop looking at comments before I finish these
Same hahaha it’s such a bad habit of mine
Same
it's just safe in the comments I need to stay here
doing that rn hahahah
fr im like whos eleanor and pamela 🤔
When they realised she never left the shop - chills.
Litarel~chills
She never left the shop ALIVE. She was dragged out 😗
lily Kenny Why are so many people commenting this thinking they're funny?
@@LLjmsss You mean literal?
I know I’m late but I don’t really get why everyone thinks that people who comment a true fact apparently find it funny. Lily Kenny literally only said she was dragged out, what part of that makes any of you think they find this funny?? I’m not saying it is but how is this comment a joke because they never even said it was dark humour or a joke.
I'm impressed at how caring her boyfriend sounded, instantly noticing her absence, checking to see if she was okay and contacting her mom. He must have been devastated :(
😖
Ikrrr
Super caring but I kinda suspected him though
@@sindu3 partners are always #1 suspect. I haven’t watched the video yet so it’s so interesting that it wasn’t him
@@sindu3 same
it genuinely amazes me how society has tried to turn an innocent fifteen year olds murder on herself, does it often occur that a happy teen with a great boyfriend cheats with an old geezer twice her age?!
yeah and the guy had a face that only a mother could love. Pathetic creep
I'm sorry but how did society do this
men really can’t handle rejection wow
It's the same for some women. There just aren't many known cases of a woman killing someone just because they were rejected. It still makes me scared that one day I'm going to reject the wrong person because I have a boyfriend and they're going to snap and try to hurt me or worse.
@@XxXxLunaBeautyXxXx shut up
@@XxXxLunaBeautyXxXx I've seen and heard of girls bitching about being rejected and acting entitled
But most or all of the cases of people being harmed, stalked or killed because they rejected an advance was done by men
@@XxXxLunaBeautyXxXx you sound like an “all lives matter” type of person 🙄
@floofy yinez I don't know what was so wrong with my statement. I'm not saying that women don't get angry at being rejected. I'm just saying you hardly ever see stories of women going off the deep end and committing murder because they were rejected by someone. There have definitely been women who took rejection badly.
Can't even get your breakfast in the morning before work without having to worry about being murdered
It’s rare tho very
@@Kai-gs1ip I never said it wasn’t
@rain The point is men don’t have to be paranoid, but can a girl get a sandwich without being victimized? “Most of the time” he says. Oh how comforting thanks man! Keep handing out 24 yr sentences and it won’t change.
@@nonyab5640 Uh, I don't really get this sentence are you trying to say men can't get paranoid??? cause that's not true-
It's hard for women at times always feel like target I trust not many ppl. 🙈 Cruel place sometimes.
Does anyone occasionally go on a watching spree on crime videos?
Everyday
I’ve been binge watching Kendall Rae and Eleanor for the last 2 days
Yassssss
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Me
Us girls can’t do anything anymore. It’s scary to be living life like this!!! Such a cruel cruel world. Unbelievable! Poor girl🥺 she had such a beautiful life to live and some guy had to ruin it. This makes me feel so sick to my stomach.
I'm so sry u have to deal with this you shouldn't have too
It is so sad what people do to girls. It makes me so sick.
To be fair this is the safest time in history to be a women. Often before in history when women were murdered (especially in domestic situations) they just thought it was justified so
@@beccapetherick552 This society still likes to blame the victims.
Aw fuck off you pfftttt us girls can't do anything 🙄 hopefully the other guy commenting on your post saying im sorry you had to go through this was being sarcastic, since your a non victimised drama queen self made victim
When you said he walked out in broad fucking daylight with a big bin bag my souls left my body I felt so empty. That whole pretty young lady was in there. Her how life discarded like rubbish. I’m so angry at it
How scary . This young girl walks into a sandwich shop like a normal day and she never walks back out 😢😢😢
she got carried out
@@justme9045 you're disgusting.
@@feyriefire they made a statement?
magickodes she’s just joking
@@lulu4825 joking about a victim, just so tasteful!
no, they're still disgusting.
Those affair rumors sound like mean-spirited gossip. Trying to blame an innocent 15 year old for her own death
Yepp 100%
The sexism really shows
@@raeannaboehm619 yes. The fact that they had to explain why a man would kill a woman by making it ‘her fault’ bc she’s a s!u2 for having an affair and she ‘deserved’ it. Like my guys !! where’s the self awareness
@@jostewart3192 who said ‘she deserved it’ what 😂???
@@pk-sc8iz society is making it her fault and that she deserved it for sleeping around. They’re like ‘eh. You know she put herself in that situation’. Same with r4pe cases, they use clothes or intoxication to say ‘they’re at fault!’
The bf must've been devestated, poor guy and poor paige :/
He was waiting for her text but never received it😭 and lost her💔
I knew this girl, never actually met her but she was friends of friends, this is still one of the most horrifying things that has happened in my home town, watching this brought it back to when she first went missing, hits hard
i’m so sorry
Oh my!! That’s so awful. Sending prayers and I hope you feel better about it. ❤️❤️
Same she was my big sister's best friend
@@MeMe-rp5tk wow!!
There are so many comments on this one of people who knew her. I'm so sorry- isn't imagine having someone I knew and cared about being killed so awfully.
My SO went to high-school with and was friends with this girl, Jessica Chambers who was absolutely brutally murdered in Mississippi. I remember when she died, how awful it was, and I had never even met her. I was simply dating a boy who knew her.
One brother is a rapist and the other one a murderer. This family has some serious issues.
No those brothers have some serious issues
*WTF?!* I hope you are safe
@@xoticcsl what
shut up
@@eliodiminica1901 no
When mom's always complaining that I'm on my phone but that's gonna save me if I suddenly go silent one day
Extrovert Jellyfish
Same
Extrovert Jellyfish but I live with my mum so...
How will that save you though ?
M2DB your parents would know something is wrong if you’re always on your phone and then you go completely silent
@@inactivecakey445 yeah but then it might be too late .....
can we talk about the absolute legend that is paige’s mum? what a beautiful soul, everything she’s done to commemorate her beautiful girl just shows how much thorough and genuine love she had for her daughter. breaks my heart:(
it’s clear that she refused him when he was probably trying to flirt and he got mad and killed her.
with all the stab wounds and injuries you can tell he probably liked her a lot and got very angered when she didn’t like him back or show interest back
Maybe he was just "killing" his wife's first child, whose name is also Paige, through killing Paige. I mean, it's a strange coincidence, isn't it?
The thought of him nearly bumping into a child while poor Paige’s body was bundled into that bin bag makes me feel sick🤢🤢🤢
IKR imagine being that child and not knowing that a dead body was near you...
same. imagine the child bumping into the bag and feeling it moving around and the blood that is dropping out? like ew
@@reillysantos8579 bro .. what ?
@@purplemoonzie120 I know what he means but that’s just messed
@@reillysantos8579 🤔 🤔 serial killer???
My theory: He caught a liking to her after her coming into the shop so much and being such a bright and cheery person. He, in his own sick mind, thought that she was into him. He made an advance at her which she refused. It pissed him off and he lost it and killed her. The amount of wounds definitely suggests a person who is not in their right mind. The sloppiness of it all makes it pretty clear he'd never done it before.
Holly Drucker agreed
Makes sense really
Yeah I thought so too
I also do not think is a coincidence that his twin brother it ALSO happens to be a sex offender ...
It’s so sad
Who's here from tiktok??
Rest well paige💕
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I knew he did it when he claimed he didn’t know who she was. When you work somewhere like that you not only know your customer’s faces, but even their usual order. Poor girl 💔
It was very obvious he did it. I feel very so sorry for her and her family and friends :(
When I have regulars, or someone who I have had a good convo with and Remember certain details. Even with mask, even with it being a bigger store, not just a shop, i get to know the regulars.
Seriously! I work at a dry cleaners and it’s come to a point where I can even recognize customers cars. Someone that comes in multiple times a week you get to know and quite well, might I add.
Am I the only one who keeps staring at her eyebrows.
〈rose〉 meeee 2, i thought i was the only one, omg.
milkybujo I do too lol
They're so nice
GIRL SAME *i literally can't stop lmao*
The way they move is kind of satisfying
Im glad she doesn't use the eerie music and her voice is sooo nice
Same here, sometimes the music can be distracting
Ikr! It lowkey makes me scared so I love that she doesn't use it
Emma Jewel I’m not used to her voice since I’m American😂😂they way she talks is like so different
@@jasmineminch4057 Really?
I'm American, but I'm really used to her accent for some reason..
The music makes me click off the video , it’s actually makes me depressed it sounds so odd
okay so if she started to fill out and application and then he saw that she was only 15, where is the application? was it ever found?
I definitely think he had romantic feelings/was obsessed with her. The amount of wounds and their severity suggest a crime of passion and anger, which typically only happen when people know each other and happen in a lot of romantic-stemming crimes.
I hope the authorities kept their eye on the kids who lied about murdering Paige....seriously.
yh that's so sick
i mean what’s there to brag about? killing someone to seem hard? not really mate that’s just bloody sick
I feel like that is a cry for what might be to come. Something is wrong if you take pleasure in making up something as horrible as that.
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They should go to a mental hospital
This is so messed up....
Imagine your a dog walker
And you see a PAIR OF LEGS in the BUSHES
That must have permanently scarred that lady
Silent Wolves Legacy well not anymore it doesn’t
Thank God my dog doesn't like the waling collar
Funny, cause I wouldn't pay attention. Where I live people often get drunk and fall asleep everywhere - not surprising to hear someone snoring in the bushes, so I'd assume it's some drunk ass and move on.
Marie Ren even if they are drunk you should still call an ambulance to see if they are ok next time
Honestly I’d think someone was sleeping maybe touch it with a stick and scream if I realized it was a dead body
i’m never going outside alone again
Oh god, but same
I go out with 2 or more friends
That's like saying I'm never gonna have chocolate gain because someone choked on some. Don't make sense. It is a very sad case tho
@@oisinmccloskey6299 That is very true, but I think this commenter was kinda over exaggerating and was meaning to say that they were going to be more cautious when going outside. I don't want to put words in their mouth though, I was just thinking that because I also would say something along those lines when over exaggerating.
This time last week, I didn't know who Eleanor Neale was now I can't imagine life without her videos. I have been on the binging spree of all binging sprees and am wondering what the hell I will do with myself when I run out of videos. Thanks Eleanor for making the last few weeks of lockdown bearable
Her mom is such a warrior! Listening to her talk, she’s so level and clear. Such a senseless death.
I thought that it was clear because I’m Scottish 😂🤣
Brooklyn F. This story really gets to me because I’m almost the same age as Paige i’m the same height as her I honestly carry my phone around everywhere my mom is a literal angel her boyfriend is a sweetheart but I don’t have any siblings and yes my mom is my best friend but she’ll always be my mommy to hear that a girl with such a similar life went through such a horrible day that ended up in her death is really heartbreaking
ρeaᥴhy 。 Lol! I meant clear with her meanings not with her ascent. Haha Although I could understand her just fine. I’m American.
Angee gee-g Cabello Grande It is scary being a petite woman. I’m also very similar in size to Paige. All you can do is listen to your gut and fight like hell.
Brooklyn F. It’s even worse when you’re blind
Imagine pretending you murdered someone for attention
What do you mean?
@@sindu3 did u actually watch the video? lol
@@allylove6529 some asshole kid was pretending to be the murderer at the beginning of the investigation
@@allylove6529 ......the video......did you watch it or finish?
@@ventixoxo1447 did you?
John really did plan this and the fact that police didn’t even look in this case that much is disappointing
Well done, Paige. You fought so hard for your life. My heart breaks for you that you weren't able to win this fight. What an absolute monster he is. I hope he rots.
he's clearly lying about her threatening him to get a job, she had a hairdressing job, that probably paid more than some random deli unless he was selling morphe palettes
I think he probably was trying to come on to her and she turned him down. He got angry and killed her. What a shame.
@@Beena2020 it’s sad how far men can go when they don’t get what they want :/
@@amylocs1552 It's sad how far PEOPLE* can go when they don't get what they want :)
Nah, Morphe SUCKS hopefully she used better ❤️
@@Khoiithan ok
That many stab wounds shows a lot of anger. It’s overkill
One stab wound is over kill :(
Jacqui True, but the excess stab wounds just shows that the murderer really relished the murder. If he hadn’t actually sexually assault her prior to her death, it’s a very real possibility that he got off sexually to mutilating her. Very fucking weird, and sick. Also very dangerous- it would suggest that he had no qualms in killing someone to satisfy himself sexually, so could/would kill again, which makes the reduced sentence even more unbelievable.
@@nooneanonymous3340
100000% AGREE
There was this serial murderer in the US that killed two 12-13yr old kids that were just having puppy love, you know, hugging, hand holding, maybe a quick kiss, etc and he did some time for their murders. The SOB got out and started killing prostitutes! I can't remember his name but if you like true crime/serial killer documentaries, etc then you'll know who I'm talking about. Just horrible. Effin horrible. Smh
no pun intended
I have no personal experience in stabbing anything, let alone people...but from my understanding, repeatedly stabbing someone is exhausting. To stab someone dozens of time, you would have to have a lot of rage for your adrenaline to be high enough to give you that endurance. What on earth was he so angry about? Does anyone think this may not have been his first murder?
Someone actually hated that baby bad enough to stab her that many times. God bless her mom and her loved ones. 😭
🙏
i’m so glad she doesn’t use creepy music in the back like i wanna watch these in the evening without being creeped out
He said she filled out an application, did he have this said application?? I was curious about this.
I was thinking about that, too.
Omg good point
Probably not :3
M Hurley886 where was it in the court it probably was a fake alibi
he was fully lying 100%
why would a 15 year old girl that loved her job at a hairdressers want to work at a deli
he probably had a weird crush on her, she was disgusted when he tried it on and then he murdered her. RIP paige whatever happened x
I doubt it
Sports Trader UK why?
RainbowArt She looked about 12 and wasn’t exactly what you would call a pretty girl. He’s a monster though
you do realise pedophiles exist right? there are men who fetishise petite women lmao
nina I think pedophilia is about age rather than how petite you are.
This case fills me with SO much rage. Another girl murdered by a spineless emasculated incel. We all know what happened that day. He hit on her she was disgusted and her murdered in response. And they reduced his sentence? Disgusting. He lied and tried to tarnish that poor girls image but we know the truth. URG. Half her neck was missing and he's out in 23 years? WRONG on so many levels.
And he just casually puts her in a trash bag and throws her in his car like she’s nothing.
23 years is incredibly long time, also you don't know the truth, only he does.
As horrible as the case is, I really really love how the mom is so active in bringing awareness to situations like these. Pamela went through something so hard in losing her daughter and yet she’s come out of it continuing to fight for those like Paige. Based on information shared about Paige and about how much of a bright light she was, I think that would be something she’d be extremely happy about. Her mom keeping her memory alive but also using the memory of her daughter to help others. That’s really powerful.
She had a loving boyfriend who she’d text often, would she really have an affair with some old geezer twice her age, when she had someone lovely?
Literally. I swear there’s sexism in some of these cases. Like they can never accept that some men are just disgusting and rape and murder, it’s always gotta be the girls fault
I don't believe she was having an affair with him either, personally.
Unfortunately, ppl that DO cheat often have a "lovely" significant other. When someone cheats it has nothing to do with the person being cheated on, and everything to do with the cheater themselves. I'm in NO way saying I believe she herself was having an affair with that creeper. I don't know enough about her to know whether she'd do such a thing, and it's unfair for ppl to speculate or point fingers when she can't defend herself. His accusation of her infidelity holds no weight in my opinion. Not exactly the character type I'd look to for an honest explanation of the events that transpired.
Stay safe everyone 😷
The ONLY reason a pretty, young, confident young woman would be with an unattractive old man is if he's absurdly rich. A deli owner? No way in hell. And it's disgusting that he would drag her like that.
The fact that this was even a rumor is sick. It just shows how sexist people are towards young women.
@@mountaineergirl255
Some people don’t date based on money or looks. ✌🏻
im from scotland and i knew paige. I found some closure on this and it answered a load of questions i had.R.I.P paige
Becca it was on tv i watched it second time hearing it on this vid
Becca bless you 😚
I’m so sorry. My condolences for your loss. I don’t know how much you knew her but death impacts everyone.
Becca I’m from Scotland too xx
I'm so sorry, Rest in peace Paige ❤️
I’m terrified of these videos . Yet I can’t stop watching them🤧
Sameeee
Yemen 💐💐
Her mum is so sweet, especially buying the presents and donating them 🥺🥺 rest well Paige 💕💕
I don’t care how or why, if you kill someone you should get life in prison. A life for life. Why is that not a thing.
it's tricky. What if you accidentally killed someone in a DUI? is your life just over? no. but yes, if you murdered someone on purpose, you deserve life in prison and maybe even death
@@amandaking4654 What if you were being attacked with a weapon and you killed for self defence? Like, you were gonna die if you didn't kill them.
Self defense should be excused if that rule was set in place
Jordyn Denise I agree. Although I don't agree with the death sentence I agree that murderers should get life in prison.
This topic is very tricky. But if it was a planned murder or the end result being to cause extreme harm, then i do agree with you
If johns story was real where are the work documents that she “filled out?”
*where
this !!!!
Honestly IF his story is true, he probably burned them or got rid of them cause in the beginning of the investigation he claimed that he didn’t see Paige the day she went missing. He probably got rid of the papers with her body (again IF his story was true, which it clearly isn’t)
And why kill her if he just has to accept her application?
There was none she was never interested in a job there despite what he said she was asking older cousins to help her get a job in their salons.
it’s crazy how fast someone’s life can change. and it’s also so so so crazy how if you had changed your action, you never would of ended up injured/dead. if she had decide to still go and get a roll from the first shop, she never would of been killed :(
These crime videos really snap me back to reality and make me aware of how dangerous out there actually is.....
Am I the only person who feels really bad for her boyfriend because he was the first person to genuinely start worrying because he always expected a good morning text idk I just feel like he wasn’t brought up enough ab how he felt in this case but I’m sure he was absolutely ripped apart
Murder cases don’t bring up people unless necessary. Unsure as to what you think should’ve been done differently. He was her boyfriend so of course he would be devastated as were all her friends and family
@@B0nnylassy I think they meant in this video's coverage of the case -but tbh there's only so much you can say. It must've been horrific.
Yea, I felt a tear well in my eye... :(
Im his sister. He was devastated, we were waiting on her coming to ours after work coz we hadnt heard from her all day but just assumed she was at work until she didnt show up at ours house, please just leave my brother out of ur comments x
@@billiejoe2791 that's cute
Sociopath. Plain and simple. He was watching her and probably killed her because she reminded him of his daughter who he probably had sexual impulses twards and was repressing. Page was killed with rage. So, that's my take on this.
I believe he might have actually tried something on her, she refused, then he got violent.
Plus he has a sex offender sibling, same genetics, same environment they grew up in, and he just HAD to make up an excuse about something sexual going on? That's no coincidence. The apple doesn't fall far from the other.
STELLAR! You should read into twin studies into crime if one twin has committed a crime the other twin is 81% more likely to commit crime even in circumstances where the other twin does not see each other or live together further proof that crime can be genetic
Drew Mitchell2000 that’s very interesting, and an impressively high likelihood, I’ll check those out, thank you
@@DrewMitchell-db1sk Yea its like that twins and triplets study that was never published where they were each placed in adopted families with different income/ social standing and they all turned out very similar. Way more things are genetic than people realise which scares people. It removes much the the free will we think we have.
This could be a possebility that he murdered her because of his sexual attraction to his own daughter, or that he was sexually attracted to Paige regardless, either way, a lot of rage was envolved here- could be because he hated himself for the possebility he is attracted to a young girl, or, that he was also *rejected* by her. Things like these are unfulfiled fantasies, that a person losing their control on them can get into a lot of frustrations when they can't come true. This could be also a direction for a person to follow the path of a typical serial killer.
so scary how normal he looks and how the circumstance was so ordinary, really put into view how cruel the world can be and made me think more about safety before going out.
For god's sake. Can't even buy a sandwich without getting murdered or sexually assaulted. The other day I read about a poor young girl who was sexually assaulted and kidnapped from the bus stop on the way to school.
Peace and love to Paige's parents, peace and love to you all. Please stay safe and be wary. Take self defense classes and let's F these sickos up. If you notice anything weird happening to somebody else please step in. Even if you wait to see they are ok, do it. Or if you are in the UK call 111 and tell them you notice something fishy ...please do it. We are stronger together
Stay strong x
Aww like murder only happens senselessly to women. It happens to all. Get over yourself.
Men gets killed "another day" women gets killed "oMg wHy cAnT gIrlS jUsT lIvE iN pEaCe"
@@ElChuntyCabra exactly, a woman gets killed, it's all over the news about how women need to be protected, a man gets killed, literally no one cares. It's sickening.
@@SergyMilitaryRankingsget a grip ya melt
@@ElChuntyCabrathey never even said only women experience this? Typical man though making everything about you guys. Can't handle women being the focus ever even when it's stories of us being killed!
Am I the only one that thinks he probably had a secret obsession with Paige. From when she was young. Hence why his kid was called Paige. Probably said ‘oh can you help me round back’ tried to rape her. She defended herself and he killed her. Maybe she threatened to tell people. And he got angry because he’s seen the effects. But he wanted her to suffer. And that’s all I have to say. He wanted her to suffer.
Olivia Davies that’s what i was thinking.
I was thinking the same thing
YOU READ MY MIND
💯Percent Agree! Exactly what I was thinking 🤔
That sounds logical but you can't confirm it.
Is anyone else in l0ve with her makeup??
Me!!!! 😫 😱
*Her eyebrows though*
Georgie Carter yep
Yessss
Georgie Carter ikkk i keep staring at it😭
Rest in love Paige.. I hope her family and boyfriend
Are doing better today and able to heal from this tragedy..💖
I need to stop watching at 2:45am. Every time the hamster makes noise I freak out. 🤣🤣
I know that feeling very well.
Lol. I’m laying here listening to my hamster go wild on his water bottle, right now!
I started crying when Eleanor said that Pamela started completing Paige’s bucket list for her. So sad and sweet.
Same it’s so sad what people do.
Same here
My heart literally broke in half
Can we say Paige’s boyfriend was the best even though what happened wasn’t good he cared so deeply for her
Chloe Lewis what do u mean “even though what happened wasn’t good”. What did he do? X
Łucídhìppíe Xo he was the first person to have a feeling something wasn’t right and was worried then contacted her family . I know her mum and step dad would have started to worry after she a while longer xx
@@chloelewis9369 I knew Paige and was very good friends with her she never let anyone down and always used to show up for her work in the morning it was so out of character for her to go missing I knew something was wrong too because I was mailing her the night before and she said she was looking forward for her work in the morning she seemed like her usual self happy and bubbly she always had a smile on her face even though she got bullied for being a small wee girl here in Glasgow it has brought us closer and we will never forget Paige we remember her as she was that gorgeous wee smile on her face and not by how she was taken away from us , it is horrendous that somebody c could actually do that to a human being to inflict that many injuries on such a tiny wee girl who just walked into the shop wanting hedr breakfast in the morning and then she is attacked it is very sickening I hope john the murderer spends the rest of his life suffering in jail there was no excuse for him to take Paige , she couldn't even defend herself even if she was bigger but yet again he wouldn't of took any bigger than Paige he really is a sick sick vile person who needs to be shot basically I hope Paige is proud for what we have been doing for her I know she will have a smile on her face and be grateful for all these lovely wee comments she gets from day to day she really was a pleasure and I always will miss her I didn't loose a friend I lost someone who is very special and has a heart of gold xxxx fly high Paige xxx
sorry for ur loose
@@chloelewis9369 thank you so much means a lot xxx
I just want to thank you for all your hard work and I'm so glad I found your channel!! I've been binge watching you and I love the way you tell the story. Also, you are gorgeous on the inside and out and it's awesome you use your platform to make the world a better place (when you present a charity at the end). You are kind and selfless. You go girl ❣️ The sky is the limit!!! THANK YOU ❣️😘
I love that her mom is completing Paige's bucket list and doing gifts for her. So bittersweet
That is Beautiful and it's very Special.
I am just alittle cRazy...Lol.
I just happen to like it..
I know it's weird and you're about the 3rd person who has asked me....
Have a Wonderful and Safe Day
Life in prison for murder isn’t excessive...stabbing someone 500 times with 3 different weapons is excessive
Megan Murphy he got attacked in prison I’m pretty sure, he got put into protective care, I’m not too sure if it’s true but I have heard that, tbh he deserves a lot worse then prison
Aye exactly!
preach
CORRECT. ty.
hannah kerley no i think it’s 75
I think maybe he was obsessed with her and when he tried to make a move that day, she was disgusted and rejected him so he completely lost his shit. She came into the deli often enough for him to notice her and start fixating on her. Also knife attacks are usually crimes of passion and judging by the state of her neck, her murderer was very angry. This was personal for him.
agreed, he wouldnt have just killed her without reason tbf
i agree
I believe he offered her a job to get her into the back to sign the papers, then tried to hit on her, she rejected and he became angry and murdered her :/
Agreed
Genuinely this makes me scared tho, this could have been anyone, this could have been me, when you think about it someone could go psycho at your local deli and do the same this is crazy, I’m terrified now
Just came back to re watch some videos out of Boredom and it really makes you realizes how AMAZINGLY Eleanor has been loving herself since this was posted! You look great here but babe it’s so clear that now you GLOW!! xoxoxo
When John said he couldn’t remember seeing Paige in the shop, his statement is already disproven by Ashy Ahmed’s Statement about John “...I spoke to him later and he said she was cheery and bright...”
and then continues to say that theres no way he could remember everyone who comes in the shop... horrible man
That was the moment I knew he had killed her
Horrible Man
idkgirl productions I know, he is sick and then tries to make Paige look like a bad person by saying that she threatened him, which I don’t believe for a second. She was happy with her job at the salon so why would she want another job. Makes no sense whatsoever.
@@jasminkellingreis3622 My thoughts exactly! He didn't even attempt to make a good attempt at an excuse!
i cried when she said that they still buy her presents but they donate them
Ngl that part made my eyes water
Pamela split up with her husband of the time. She has four children with him. Paige’s biological father who lived near me, died a while ago. He never got over her death. Pamela has just given birth to another baby boy with her new partner. She campaigns tirelessly for families of violent crime. She set up a charity fund for the same. The killing of a child often has repercussions for the family for years.
I love this content! Glad to see you're still doing this kind of videos. You've got such a knack for it :)
The UK’s justice system is an absolute joke
Scotland not uk
@@Bri-hw6ss it applies to the UK’s system as well as they’re pretty much identical
Trust me germany is even worser
I love how respectfully she tells the stories of the victims. No unnecessary drama, just the unfiltered facts.
Ikr
Strong Mum!
Shes the only true crime CZcamsr I can watch
@@x_void_princess_x fr
@@2hotforu others make me uncomfortable
her mom is smiling during the interview but you can hear it in her voice and see the pain in her eyes, it breaks my heart
Wow. Her mother seems so strong. She seems like she's handled this really well considering. What an amazing woman.
I honestly love putting your videos on and just listening while I draw or do homework or whatsoever. I love it
My theory is that the dude was attracted to her and when he made his move on her and she didn't let him he killed her, the amount of times she was stabbed kind fit in this theory
I agree 100 % with you
Totally agree
So sad. I agree. It’s actually horrible we live in a world where women are murdered for rejecting men
His logic: I don't want to be on sex offenders list, but I'd rather be murderer.
Because he thought he could get away with the murder
I am so hooked now I love true crime but when I stared watching you I haven’t watch any of my other true crime channels i just love the way you tell the stories!
i remember watching this on the news when i was 13 years old, damn where has time gone, Sleep easy Paige...
How could the cops not think he was a suspect when he first said he'd never seen her he didn't recognize her cuz so many people come in and out, but then all of a sudden he says oh yeah she comes in here all the time. That's the biggest red flag from the start before they saw the tape and stuff. What a sick twisted liar. That story of her threatening him was BS imo. Wth is wrong with the jury. 23 yrs for brutally murdering a child??
He was still regarded as a suspect; as law enforcement it's not a one at a time sort of thing, it's recording actions and any gained evidence and returning as seen fit to narrow things down in a calculated manner. (And a manner that cannot be pointed at by defense!)
Even if a questioned individual seems ridiculous or fishy, it's your and your colleagues' duty to not jump to ANY abrupt conclusions and to always behave as neutral as possible so as to not affect the culprit's own behaviors.
Due diligence in solving a case also significantly involves avoiding red herrings that can impede a just conclusion--as well as closure for the living victims of the tragedy.
All of them probably pc warriors
Baby Dragon Yep it should been life
Life sentence in the UK is 25 years. Fucked up, I know. Especially in cases like poor Paige’s.
@@xxkatiexxization how does that make any sense? if they were "pc warriors", they would be more disgusted by this. Yall just try to throw empathetic people under the bus any chance you get. And then you call use snowflakes even though you guys bring this shit up way more often lol. Get over yourself.
what?! 23 years for the brutal murder of a girl?! 27 was Too much?! Dude will be out at 54! o hellll naw.
Thats not for sure.. it will be decided if he cant out
Innamtes will probably take care of him
@@caliweewee7226 inmates are the same as him
@@selma8337 actually it's been known that most inmates really don't accept any child predator or if u mess with a child in any way if the guards don't seperate them. The other Inmates with beat them sometimes even to death because when they see someone like that they think of their kids n siblings
@@caliweewee7226 yeah i know but that’s only if he isn’t imprisoned with other child predators
As a 15 year old girl, i feel so sorry for her and the people that knew her. I can't imagine the horror and pain this poor girl went through. Rest in peace paige❤
How the family copes with the loss is beautiful. Completing her bucket list , naming her niece after her, still celebrating birthdays and Christmas for her. They're very strong people , clearly beautiful souls
500 injuries? Omg! That poor girl. ☹
That is awful. 😡
Poor poor girl ☹️
I don’t believe his story at all. I don’t believe she threatened to lie about it. I think he had some kind of sick obsession with her and wanted to kill her.
He probably was like in love with her and she rejected him and he got made, raped her and killed her
@@isabellasegrera265 yeah i think so too.
It would explain the name of his daughter
She was probably super nice to him every time she went in & he got obsessed. It sucks that girls can’t even be kind to people without fearing about a weirdo hurting us.
His own daughter is also a teenager called paige.
You’re my fave true crime poster right now! Totally my friend in my head. Thanks for awesome content!
I was in high school in the area this murder took place and it shook the whole town. Everyone was devastated when it happened and it still chills me to think this happened so close to my home. Thank you for covering her case ❤
So lucky the cctv tape didnt run out and delete the footage after twelve days!!
It boggles my mind that walking into a deli to get a freaking sandwich escalated so ridiculously... How does someone even go from something so mundane to something so brutal in such a short span of time? Surely he didn't plan this beforehand, he was so unprepared he had to go next door to buy his own murder clean-up kit! I don't know what kind of hatred that man was harboring for Paige or for women, or just for some specific person Paige was a surrogate for, but he should never EVER be allowed back on the streets...
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Terrifying 😕
He needs "street justice" if released
yep:(
her family and boyfriend must have been devastated :(( also i feel so sorry for john’s kids, imagine being 9 years old and finding out your dad is a horrible person that is capable of murder :(
and also: the bucket list and donations are such a lovely idea. the family seems so so lovely
Unrelated, but Paiges mom is so pretty she looks so young