ESCAPED CHILD KILLER'S MURDER SPREE

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  • čas přidán 13. 01. 2021
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  • @mellie3401
    @mellie3401 Před 3 lety +5862

    Police: exists
    Him: *and i took that personally*

  • @angel-ux2nc
    @angel-ux2nc Před 3 lety +5708

    Him: Kills 3 girls
    Police: baby I'm not even here 👩🏽‍🦯
    Him: steals a bag of walnuts
    Police: you are under arrest for a very planned mastermind crime.

  • @veeistiredasf
    @veeistiredasf Před 3 lety +4067

    strange man, running around in weird clothes and clearly out of breath: _visibly suspiciously_ "Can I come in and have a cup of tea?"
    british person: "Bloody hell you've been runnin' for a while, come in!"

    • @azzyntll
      @azzyntll Před 3 lety +128

      Im not sure if you're British yourself but--
      Why does everyone think we say BlooDy hElL all the time bc it was said in harry potter a few times 🤣🤣

    • @veeistiredasf
      @veeistiredasf Před 3 lety +155

      @@azzyntll Lmao yeah I'm British and so many of my friends say this unironically 😹

    • @exxwhy1645
      @exxwhy1645 Před 3 lety +56

      @@azzyntll i’m british and my family say it a lot lmao

    • @crazyperson1063
      @crazyperson1063 Před 3 lety +36

      @@azzyntll many British ppl say it

    • @itzppr
      @itzppr Před 3 lety +54

      @@azzyntll is it the British equivalent of Americans saying "Jesus Christ"

  • @angelicdexter
    @angelicdexter Před 3 lety +1220

    For a mentally disabled guy to kill a child an hour after he was caught and to do it without leaving any evidence or fingerprints.. And the family called the police 4 hours after he was caught. I don't know, world.. I don't know..

    • @maries6368
      @maries6368 Před 3 lety +169

      I agree, it doesn’t make any sense. Especially because she was allegedly killed around 7pm and he was captured at that time. However, it’s strange that he knew about the little girl on the bike’s death. I was thinking maybe he saw her riding around while he was on the run, but one the timing would be off, and two how would he know she died? Though I guess the police could’ve lied about him saying that.. It’s a very strange case

    • @Angelina-lz8oz
      @Angelina-lz8oz Před 3 lety +146

      @@maries6368 the police could've lied, there is no evidence of him ever saying that. No fingerprints, nail marks even tho he had no nails, the timing, the fact that he insisted that he didn't kill her and that he was innocent for the rest of his life even tho he admitted to all of his previous crimes, everything is off. Maybe the girl was murdered by someone else and the police blamed it on him because they didn't want to look into another case and it was easier for them to just blame it on him.

    • @maries6368
      @maries6368 Před 3 lety +63

      @@Angelina-lz8oz yeah at this point I’m pretty much convinced that the police made that up about him saying he didn’t kill her. They must’ve been fairly corrupt around that time.

    • @rachelrose3573
      @rachelrose3573 Před 3 lety +72

      I strongly believe he is not Linda’s killer. Not by a long shot. John, with his 10yo brain, would never ever have thought to not directly touch her bike and grab it with a piece of fabric around his hands. Also, how could there be nail marks? And to top it all off, the timeline makes no sense. I really don’t think he did it. Had he done so, he would’ve admitted to it.

    • @luzvazquez4189
      @luzvazquez4189 Před 3 lety +31

      @@maries6368 The most likely scenario is that police lied and believe me, I have no intention of defending them but I think another possibility is that he did say that but not because he killed her, just because he witnessed something. Obviously he couldn't have witnessed theactual murder if the timeline of events is correct, but he could have witnessed abuse or some sort of conflict happening. When police made all their leading questions he realized they were trying to frame him. Why confess to everything except for that murder? He was going to spend the rest of his life in some institution or another, so at that point lying was just silly.

  • @piffba
    @piffba Před 3 lety +12749

    Him: assaults a 13yo girl
    Police: ok
    Him: strangles some chickens
    Police: *you what now*

  • @myb4208
    @myb4208 Před 3 lety +4633

    the fact she was picking flowers absolutely breaks my heart

    • @elisibethjames7488
      @elisibethjames7488 Před 3 lety +192

      Too innocent. Too pure... she didn’t deserve that

    • @Vampire_Nightshade
      @Vampire_Nightshade Před 3 lety +49

      Reminds me of that scene from the old Frankenstein movie, when a little girl and Frankenstein's creation throw daisies into the river...

    • @beej7286
      @beej7286 Před 3 lety +37

      so innocent and gold... nothing gold can stay

    • @rhondabothelio7238
      @rhondabothelio7238 Před 3 lety +26

      @@Vampire_Nightshade remind's me of Albert Fish... little Grace Budd 💔..

    • @hannah8850
      @hannah8850 Před 3 lety +9

      @@beej7286 the outsiders and robert frost

  • @littlepixiesimba16
    @littlepixiesimba16 Před 3 lety +528

    cases like this just make me think of those people of the older generation that are like “ahh back in my day we didnt have all these rules, kids just used to play out none of this molly coddling like kids today... they were perfectly safe” 👀 were they safe... were they 😳 xxx

    • @patch4537
      @patch4537 Před 3 lety +41

      honestly I think its because cases weren't known as much, unless it was a very serious serial killer, no one really knew. Like random girl got murdered? Sure a few people may know but not enough people would know or care, and just let their children play in the streets lol. also like every parent lived in the middle of nowhere

    • @littlepixiesimba16
      @littlepixiesimba16 Před 3 lety +12

      @@patch4537 oh im in complete agreement but we all know it happened and so do they know but you do still hear judgement from older parents on how cautious modern parents are and it makes me laugh. There has always been towns and cities and such where people have lived. Only in certain areas like the actual countryside would families have lived a way from each other.

    • @dannahbanana11235
      @dannahbanana11235 Před 3 lety +14

      Our brains have a habit of making the past seem better than it was. It's been happening for as long we've had civilizations. It wasn't better, your brain is a liar lol. Always remember, the past was the worst.

    • @cherryrussell7648
      @cherryrussell7648 Před rokem

      It just sounds like families who were lucky enough to have kids that didn’t have anything bad happen to them I bet

  • @bludelphinium994
    @bludelphinium994 Před 3 lety +845

    “...he picked up a hobby”
    “A rather unconventional hobby..”
    “He began burglarizing homes”
    WTF?! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @deez2569
      @deez2569 Před 2 lety +8

      What, you've never burglarized a home? Rookie😜

    • @mammadingo9165
      @mammadingo9165 Před 2 lety +2

      @@deez2569 I guess I can justify robbing a business but a home that is a moral error. taking what someone else worked their asses off for their possessions memories violates their whole family should be seen as more serious crime cause once someone breaks sertain mortal empathy who knows just how low they will go . ✌️

    • @deez2569
      @deez2569 Před 2 lety +3

      @@mammadingo9165 A good thief NEVER takes from the good.

    • @rwentfordable
      @rwentfordable Před 2 lety

      @@mammadingo9165 The majority of business are small and people put a lot of hard work and financial risk to provide for themselves and their family yet you could justify buglarizing them?

    • @mammadingo9165
      @mammadingo9165 Před 2 lety +2

      @@rwentfordable agreed small businesses do work hard no one deserves to be robbed though I could justify someone stealing food from a chain supermarket ... I dunno given enough time I could give a crap justification for just about anything.

  • @k3nia.v
    @k3nia.v Před 3 lety +2111

    Ugh the little first baby girl shattered my heart when I heard she was picking flowers before getting kidnapped.

    • @Hanavannin
      @Hanavannin Před 3 lety +70

      Me too. I have a 5 year old daughter who loves to pick flowers and this broke my heart. Can't even imagine what that poor girl went through

    • @asaasa7900
      @asaasa7900 Před 3 lety +8

      @@Hanavannin Thankfully not much. IIRC she was unconscious thank god.

    • @janayahuffman9990
      @janayahuffman9990 Před 3 lety +17

      Yea, I could feel her personality through her picture... reminded me of my youngest sister and I wanted to cry.

    • @jxn1056
      @jxn1056 Před 3 lety +2

      yes..me too 😥😓

    • @chantelle5349
      @chantelle5349 Před 3 lety

      @@Hanavanninj88888888888

  • @Flowerfairyy27
    @Flowerfairyy27 Před 3 lety +2135

    When I was around 6 years old, my mom let me play in this small field outside of our house alone and it was like the middle of the day. She normally doesn't let me play alone but for some reason she let me go that time.
    In the distance I could see a tall guy walking in my direction. I didn't think much of it coz I assumed he was in a hurry and is just passing by.
    But the closer he got I realised that he was looking at me and the vibes he was giving weren't right. So glad I did the right thing by getting up and hurriedly speed walking to my house. Swear he was so close behind but by some miracle my older brother went to check up on me (when he rarely did) and this mf did a complete turn to the right and hurriedly walked off down the street.
    I told my family and they kept me locked in the house for a while for my safety. Parents, it doesn't matter if you're letting your kids play outside when the sun is out or when there are people around coz anything can happen to them and not all kids get away from these situations.

    • @Bringon-dw8dx
      @Bringon-dw8dx Před 3 lety +109

      I don’t think that means you should shelter your child though. My happiest memories were being out with my friends from about 8-15. We would stay out all day until the street lights came on.
      I had multiple run ins like that as a kid playing out with my friends- but we had always planned for things like this (alongside first aid scenarios) so we knew what to do. And we took safety measures to make us less vulnerable- we always travelled in HUGE groups when we were in the younger age ranges, always in places that were well lit, always in areas we knew that we could knock on the door of someone is something bad happened, we all had mobile phones etc

    • @somethingmischievous2453
      @somethingmischievous2453 Před 3 lety +72

      he did full one eighty Crazy . little rat but im glad your safe today

    • @emmamckittrick977
      @emmamckittrick977 Před 3 lety +30

      Totally agree 👍🏻 night or day afternoon or morning there are some weird and MF dirty pedos out there X so glad Ur brother did come just shows u tho X so glad Ur safe and are having a life my heart 💖 goes out to all the poor girls and boys who have lost there life to total f**ing horrible nasty people who pray on kids its sick x

    • @armoredanteater609
      @armoredanteater609 Před 3 lety +32

      And this is why people need to move in groups

    • @oren1305
      @oren1305 Před 3 lety +58

      @@Bringon-dw8dx Well, not all young children have cell phones, and even in groups, you can face serious danger. Look into the Jacob Wetterling case; he was abducted from his friend group when they were riding their bikes, coming home from the rental store. He was taken at knife point, assaulted, and murdered in a bush. My point is, taking precautions as you did is good, but kids can still be seriously at risk.
      I mean, that might always be the case, but I certainly don't think I'd send my child beyond her backyard after hours, and not without some guidance.

  • @islaeiemeiene8996
    @islaeiemeiene8996 Před 3 lety +169

    Imagine how guilty the police officers wife must of felt

  • @jesus_says_chill8688
    @jesus_says_chill8688 Před 3 lety +224

    I've seen NO ONE point this out so far, so I'd just like to mention;
    at the point where Eleanor said "So he happily demonstrated by walking up behind one of the officers and did it on him" or whatever, I was genuinely concerned for that poor officer. Like, she didn't mention him asking that officer if it was alright, he literally just went up to him and did it. Now, I know that he was in a room full of officers and they're normally prepared for this kind of thing, but Jesus that'd be terrifying. Like you're just w/ you bros, interviewing some guy who strangled a little girl, and thr guy gets up and says "Yeah ill show you how i did it" and he starts walking towards YOU. I'd just be like "shitshitshitshit" XD

    • @hi-prism
      @hi-prism Před 2 lety +6

      *_s a m e_*

    • @shonafamliy7091
      @shonafamliy7091 Před 2 lety

      Exactly

    • @Gabbii_abbi
      @Gabbii_abbi Před 2 lety +14

      they asked for a demonstration.

    • @jesus_says_chill8688
      @jesus_says_chill8688 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Gabbii_abbi Yeah I'm aware

    • @anyathepanther7977
      @anyathepanther7977 Před 2 lety +8

      Even if they asked for a Demonstration, i'd still be nerveous to play "The dummy"
      Like this guys hands are right on my neck! He might be stopd in time, but i will have to live with the experience!

  • @rainboe_chile6256
    @rainboe_chile6256 Před 3 lety +1255

    The police: arrest him for committing a crime
    Him: *and I took it personally*

    • @okay845
      @okay845 Před 3 lety +3

      Someone stole ur comment

    • @no-ni8gq
      @no-ni8gq Před 3 lety +4

      😭😭😭😭😭😭.

    • @ace-kx9jj
      @ace-kx9jj Před 3 lety +14

      @@okay845 nahh theirs was first, this was commented an hour after

  • @sammyhatter
    @sammyhatter Před 3 lety +2616

    Please cover the Dylan Ehler case PLEASE he’s still missing and his dad is pleading to get his name & face out there

  • @lorijoy720
    @lorijoy720 Před 3 lety +139

    I wouldn't even open my door unless I was expecting a package...I can't imagine inviting a rando in for tea lol

    • @emilysmyth4038
      @emilysmyth4038 Před 2 lety +3

      same 😳 but then again it is the 1950s times we’re different

    • @2009socalgal
      @2009socalgal Před 2 lety +3

      I don’t even open my door for a package - only after it is dropped off!

    • @mumtazamiri6409
      @mumtazamiri6409 Před 2 lety +3

      It was very common back then, even upto the 80s. It was a different age with a different mindset.

    • @TheIndigo1child
      @TheIndigo1child Před 2 lety +1

      @@2009socalgal that is very sad indeed

    • @lorijoy720
      @lorijoy720 Před 2 lety

      @Fordo_77 to each their own 🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @jazz9090
    @jazz9090 Před 2 lety +61

    Imagine seeing his face on the news and remembering that you served tea to him just a few hours before

  • @user-ju8sy2pd8h
    @user-ju8sy2pd8h Před 3 lety +3080

    It’s terrifying that he escaped the mental hospital, had a cup of tea with a random person and asked ‘do you not feel unsafe?’

    • @taz7271
      @taz7271 Před 3 lety +44

      Yes very terrifying

    • @Subliminal_Loser
      @Subliminal_Loser Před 3 lety +23

      I mean iw ould be like "Nah man i have a demon named charles. C-h-a-r-l-e-s The demon, Named Charles"
      Guy: "Aueh W-what? the- the fu-"

    • @i.rankin6711
      @i.rankin6711 Před 2 lety +10

      I find it strangely hilarious...in that sad story full of victims

    • @jennafelts4774
      @jennafelts4774 Před 2 lety

      @@Subliminal_Loser is jjit h ono be no excuse ño B okk noo kkoic

    • @markusdarri2158
      @markusdarri2158 Před 2 lety +5

      I wonder how those people felt knowing later who it was

  • @Franklin5261
    @Franklin5261 Před 3 lety +3515

    I cannot ever imagine a time when it was perfectly fine and safe to let your 9 year old go off to the movies alone 🤷‍♀️.

    • @amethyst5538
      @amethyst5538 Před 3 lety +149

      I did as a kid but that was the 80's in a really not real crimey area.

    • @tessaclaire1152
      @tessaclaire1152 Před 3 lety +262

      Times were different back then, my parents were allowed to ride a bike for 10 minutes to go to a friends house back in the 80’s when they were only like 9, meanwhile I’m now 17 and my parents still drive me to a friends house that’s only 10 minutes away

    • @Menhera_Clown
      @Menhera_Clown Před 3 lety +155

      There was a point in time when hitchhiking was normal, things change

    • @billiejean9894
      @billiejean9894 Před 3 lety +29

      I’ve been allowed like that but it’s because i lived really close to a cinema and I live in a really small village

    • @L1v1ngD3adGirI
      @L1v1ngD3adGirI Před 3 lety +95

      Whenever I was on a walk my parents would force me to take my humongous cat with me he legit looked like a freaking lynx cat so nobody approached me lol. He passed away unfortunate but he did become a father and my new cat is his daughter

  • @kilimcfili
    @kilimcfili Před 3 lety +164

    Him: Assaults little girl.
    Police: ...
    Him: kills her chickens.
    Police: HOW F- DARE U

  • @Yunaschesirekat
    @Yunaschesirekat Před 3 lety +59

    him: assaults a child
    police: I aint hearing that noise
    him: steals walnuts
    police: 5 star chase

  • @ghostblud7423
    @ghostblud7423 Před 3 lety +1382

    police: *catches him at 6pm*
    *murder at 7pm*
    also police: "he was back in hospital but it was definitely him"

    • @leahfinlay8971
      @leahfinlay8971 Před 3 lety +70

      Yh the parents definitely murder that girl

    • @alexrightnow2531
      @alexrightnow2531 Před 3 lety +169

      I'm not believing that he killed Linda. He would've admitted to it at some point down the line like he did with the first 2 and the fact that none of his finger prints were on her bike which is impossible and that Linda had nail marks on her neck when straffen was a nail biter (so he didn't have any nails to leave marks with) and the fact that he was already detained and back in Broadmoor an hour before neighbors heard a young girl screaming just none of this points to straffen as her killer.

    • @meddlinmegs
      @meddlinmegs Před 3 lety +86

      Yeah, that's certainly a case I feel should have been looked into more before he was even allowed to plead. It was just easy to blame it on the mentally ill already convicted child murderer than to admit parents are capable of killing their own child.

    • @sleepyeevee9255
      @sleepyeevee9255 Před 3 lety +28

      But How would he know that she was riding a bike?
      He said "I didn't kill the girl on the bike"

    • @TheMadHatterx
      @TheMadHatterx Před 3 lety +42

      @@sleepyeevee9255 She did say he went around knocking at people's house. Maybe he saw her on the bike.

  • @geminisam8937
    @geminisam8937 Před 3 lety +1796

    Eleanor: _"in his revenge , Straffen snuck around the girl's home in the middle of the night and strangled 5 of her Family"_
    ME : _OMG ! Family Members??!!_ 😩😭
    Eleanor: _"CHICKENS"_ 🐔

    • @xx__crazydoggo__xx4567
      @xx__crazydoggo__xx4567 Před 3 lety +80

      SAME OMG I FREAKED OUT I ABOUT SCREAMED

    • @wiggl3s_821
      @wiggl3s_821 Před 3 lety +47

      Same my mind went straight to him like strangling her whole family i swear my heart rate sped up like x100.

    • @blobfishbubbles2810
      @blobfishbubbles2810 Před 3 lety +18

      DIDO! OMG I WAS ABOUT TO TOSS MY PHONE OUT THE WINDOW-

    • @Lilyyysanchez
      @Lilyyysanchez Před 3 lety +6

      I thought she is gonna say pets like dogs or cats 😑

    • @elisibethjames7488
      @elisibethjames7488 Před 3 lety +3

      I freaked out slightly, too

  • @ellygreen244
    @ellygreen244 Před 3 lety +451

    Thank you for not saying the R-slur, even though it was his technical diagnosis

    • @elliebellieboo
      @elliebellieboo Před 3 lety +40

      Not enough people have talked about this. I’m so happy that I’m not the only one that is thankful!

    • @d3mized
      @d3mized Před 3 lety +1

      ikr.

    • @Tata83102
      @Tata83102 Před 3 lety +51

      The whole “r word” and p word” is so dumb Fr. Those both could be different things and yeah you can match context with what it could mean. But some people could have no clue what you mean and then what your saying loses all it value.

    • @elliebellieboo
      @elliebellieboo Před 3 lety +9

      @@Tata83102 so you’re basically saying that it isn’t offensive and it doesn’t matter?

    • @Tata83102
      @Tata83102 Před 3 lety +38

      @@elliebellieboo no I never said that. Idk how you could possibly take that from what I said you must’ve failed English. I said saying “r word” could mean many things. And just saying “r word” and “p word” is dumb because different things can fit into that. I’m not going to say what you can use your imagination. All I know is saying r word takes away the seriousness of it. If someone came up to me and said “I just got r****” it would hit a lot harder than then saying “I got r worded”. And many people agree with me.

  • @rosetta_i
    @rosetta_i Před 3 lety +14

    I used to live near Broadmoor as a kid and I remember the alarm going off once when it wasn't a drill. My gran was staying with us and my mum forgot to mention what day the drills were on, so when my gran heard the alarm go off she assumed it was just the drill and so took me to the park regardless. When mum returned home, gran told her how impressed she was at how seriously the drill had been taken that day (doors locked, shops shut, all streets empty, shutters down, curtains closed, lights off etc) and my mum was just like "The drill is in two days..."
    Turns out someone had genuinely escaped. They'd been caught pretty quickly and hadn't actually managed to get anywhere close to civilisation, but it still terrified my mum to think of what could have happened to three year old me and my seventy year old grandma.

  • @SunniDae333
    @SunniDae333 Před 3 lety +832

    "Screw the police, I'm going to get my revenge on them all"
    *kills two random innocent girls, confesses immediately when caught*
    ??????????

    • @lovelydom4989
      @lovelydom4989 Před 3 lety +10

      Kids tend to do many things for no reason

    • @lovelydom4989
      @lovelydom4989 Před 3 lety +5

      I actually personally take care of my younger siblings and if they make a mess or cause trouble they have a hard time realizing that it was wrong and had no motives just curious and simple minded

    • @simplypeachy3339
      @simplypeachy3339 Před 3 lety +10

      "Just so you know who won this battle, yes officer, *I* did those things. I got my ultimate revenge, don't you forget it. Got em >:D"

    • @Marian-hh6es
      @Marian-hh6es Před 2 lety +10

      I mean his IQ was 56 and the mental age of a 6yo, did you expect him to think logically

    • @myaachoom
      @myaachoom Před 2 lety +1

      @@Marian-hh6es right. obviously that logic isn't going to make sense to a common person

  • @Michellecrossan
    @Michellecrossan Před 3 lety +6214

    Liner is next level🔥

    • @carodompul2939
      @carodompul2939 Před 3 lety +150

      I aspire to someday be able to do my make up as well as Elenour

    • @qyn8886
      @qyn8886 Před 3 lety +51

      I wish my liner was this beast 💖

    • @amethyst5538
      @amethyst5538 Před 3 lety +80

      40 years old and I still cant accomplish that line without looking like I crawled out of the gutter.😭😭

    • @qyn8886
      @qyn8886 Před 3 lety +28

      @@amethyst5538 same here although I haven’t had as much experience 😭 I’ve been doing makeup for 10 years and I’m still bad at it haha

    • @ashessoda2422
      @ashessoda2422 Před 3 lety +14

      I'm pretty sure she has a tutorial on her channel

  • @anouskalukacs8110
    @anouskalukacs8110 Před 3 lety +70

    im sorry but im like ten minutes in and I have to say: WHY IN THE HELL DID THEY NOT CONNECT THE FIRST TWO MURDERS I-

  • @_lost_3300
    @_lost_3300 Před 3 lety +35

    Important notes I feel should be mentioned: mental hospitals back then were infamous for their mistreatment of patients, and if you were deemed at all mentally unwell you were basically ostracized. Mental health treatment back then was incredibly traumatizing; mental health schools are still incredibly abusive to their students and often they receive parental permission to lock children as low as the age of 4 in a room for hours, or to restrain them. (One school I went to actually broke a child's arm restraining her and refused to get off her until she "calmed down" Which was about an hour. No news coverage, or charges were made. She did eventually go to a hospital and got a week off school)
    So this man was never given the chance to properly learn about justice or property because he was never given justice himself, or given property himself, or anything. Of course what he did was wrong but it was most likely cause by all the incredibly horrible things around him that would've been just normal.
    The police leading thing... I very much doubt that they got him to accidentally confess??? Like is that just me or is it just super deniable that they managed to corner this supposedly stupid man and mentally trap him
    Last note: IQ isn't real. There isn't such thing as smart points. It is essentially just testing your memory and ability to follow commands (which is how we test animals IQs btw, how well they can follow commands) this case has shown the man is obviously not as stupid as people back then made him out to be (take his escape plan for example, it would've been tough to pull off without a bit of quick thinking)

  • @joecolclough3775
    @joecolclough3775 Před 3 lety +1514

    So he's not mentally capable enough to kill someone and doesn't know why it's wrong yet he's clever enough to escape to a high security prison?

    • @panonymousbloom5405
      @panonymousbloom5405 Před 3 lety +148

      It wasn't high security prison, he basically just jumped the fence and that was it lmao.
      Like, the guy just went around people homes for a tea after he escaped, and was surprised when the staff checked out the bus stops, I don't think it points to high mental capabilities.

    • @alzbetal1499
      @alzbetal1499 Před 3 lety +135

      Very true. To me it seems more like he was never taught boundaries and Why are these around. Plus the learning diability.
      Just the thing that he escapes and is chillin at houses, it just seems like he didn’t escape some sentence, he just wanted to go out.

    • @saltyk9561
      @saltyk9561 Před 3 lety +141

      it's not that he was some criminal mastermind, it's that the "high security" sucked. like they had a wall and a few extremely neglectful guards, that's it

    • @Seversony
      @Seversony Před 3 lety +55

      I mean, he had the mental capacity of a child and children are freaking escape artists dude

    • @l.symone3611
      @l.symone3611 Před 3 lety +35

      He obviously didn't learn much about what is wrong and right in his childhood seeing as his parents weren't the best of parents. I believe that he didn't know why it was wrong to kill the girl because of the newspaper that he read and the main reason [allegedly] to kill these girls was to spite the police he was doing out of Revenge and didn't see anything wrong with it but the reason he escaped a high-security prison was because it didn't have high security he could practically walk out of the front door and they didn't really do anything I don't understand why they would leave a murderer who isn't the brightest crayon in the color box alone

  • @Loclioness
    @Loclioness Před 3 lety +1328

    The fact that he knows his actions were wrong enough to lie proves he wasnt too insane to understand he was wrong when he killed the first two

    • @dx4618
      @dx4618 Před 3 lety +131

      Exactly! Also, what 10 year-old DOESN'T understand that theft, let alone MURDER, is wrong??? That's just preposterous. If all these doctors said he had the mental capacity of a 10 year-old at the time, then he DID know better. Shoot, even a 7 year-old understands that strangling someone and killing someone is wrong. People are just too PC and care more about the "fair" treatment of a MURDERER than about protecting society from his violence and getting justice for his victims.

    • @netsk1679
      @netsk1679 Před 3 lety +42

      That's often part of the prosecutions argument. If a killer hides the body, they're technically sane because they knew it was wrong also.

    • @netsk1679
      @netsk1679 Před 3 lety +71

      @@dx4618 scientists are now saying the brain isn't actually mature enough until after puberty to be able to make clear definitions between right and wrong. That's why kids will bully others etc. Look into it, its really interesting.

    • @Loclioness
      @Loclioness Před 3 lety +10

      @@netsk1679 But why would they say that as if its breaking news when we all knew that. That only relates in the sense of stealing, lying, fighting, s3xual activities etc. Its not normal to kill!!!

    • @anastasiaa.4575
      @anastasiaa.4575 Před 3 lety +83

      @@Loclioness Most kids don't fully understand the finality of death. They may "know" killing is wrong because they're told it is, but that isn't the same as understanding it. Spend time with literally any child and you'll see they're basically sociopaths up until a certain point because they haven't fully learned what it means to be human. Like Nets K said, kids brains don't develop fully until later in life and they DON'T fully understand the consequences or meanings of their actions.

  • @panonymousbloom5405
    @panonymousbloom5405 Před 3 lety +23

    How was he found guilty of Linda's murder if the only evidence is police claims? Isn't it like, a definition of reasonable doubt?
    That poor girl didn't even get the justice she deserved.

  • @freyachantal4571
    @freyachantal4571 Před 3 lety +31

    my mum used to work are horetham hospital, she has lots of story about how badly the patients were treated.. she’s pretty much scarred by her time there

    • @user-lh3is5or4y
      @user-lh3is5or4y Před 2 lety +4

      Unfortunately, the abuse of patients with mental problems is very prevalent and soooo sad and unfair. Having said that, when it comes to CRIMINALS with mental problems (who, for example, are institutionalized for killing innocent children).....if I were a worker, I don't know how I would be able to treat them nicely as if they were just any other person. I wouldn't abuse them, but I wouldn't be able to be nice to them either. 😕

  • @dieRoms0709
    @dieRoms0709 Před 3 lety +892

    "His teddy named Rupert"
    Stewie from Family Guy: 👁👄👁

  • @helenagotzhein
    @helenagotzhein Před 3 lety +2244

    can we talk about her makeup tho? SHE LOOKS SO GOOD

    • @wolfi7229
      @wolfi7229 Před 3 lety +48

      her eyeliner is amazing bruh

    • @starblack9374
      @starblack9374 Před 3 lety +22

      @@wolfi7229 for real it’s so even

    • @bigredswife4646
      @bigredswife4646 Před 3 lety +23

      @@starblack9374 right??? Im totally crushing on this beautiful English gem...

    • @puddspudds5102
      @puddspudds5102 Před 3 lety +6

      Stunning 😍

    • @alexisgrey3633
      @alexisgrey3633 Před 3 lety +15

      killer eyeliner and really pretty lipstick

  • @yourmotherbitch2434
    @yourmotherbitch2434 Před 3 lety +70

    imagine if he didn’t kill her, that would have been her best memory of a stranger :(

  • @okhaerin
    @okhaerin Před 3 lety +27

    this case honestly broke my heart. the first girl was only picking flowers, FLOWERS this act is so innocent, she was only 5. I can’t believe he didn’t even get anxiety or any guilt of what he had done. If I did this i would feel so guilty that i would confess myself. i couldn’t imagine how much pain the parents went through. 💔

  • @hottieee3718
    @hottieee3718 Před 3 lety +866

    I always hear how it was much “safer” back in the day and how ppl would let their young children walk alone etc., but from the looks of Eleanor’s channel turns out it wasn’t much safer than nowadays at all🤣

    • @georgiastewart5692
      @georgiastewart5692 Před 3 lety +17

      how is this something to laugh about?

    • @lynne1517
      @lynne1517 Před 3 lety +29

      No it wasn’t safer. And in the 60’s there was Myrah Hindley and Ian Brady! Not funny at all ...

    • @hottieee3718
      @hottieee3718 Před 3 lety +118

      Obviously it’s not literally funny, it’s “funny” to me that it was the exact opposite of what ppl thought was safe, like ironic, I wasn’t literally laughing, it was like an ironic type of chuckle, which is why I used that emoji

    • @alysbaah-danso5278
      @alysbaah-danso5278 Před 3 lety +11

      @@hottieee3718 I see your point to. It’s ironic, I guess cause it wasn’t as recorded the amount of crime and distributed statistics to the media. The small crimes which everyone knew of was most likely stealing of cars, stealing sweets and stuff. But it is ironic if I say so myself

    • @idekatthispoint8041
      @idekatthispoint8041 Před 3 lety +33

      I think they just thought it was much safer cause they weren't as aware as we are today but really it was always as dangerous as it is today

  • @mollysequoia7127
    @mollysequoia7127 Před 3 lety +596

    The fact there’s a place called an “idiot colony “ makes me so angry how would that help anyone

    • @bmp2791
      @bmp2791 Před 3 lety +113

      Idiocy was actually a term not an insult back in the day. It became an insult with time.

    • @triciafradrick3731
      @triciafradrick3731 Před 3 lety +42

      @@bmp2791 thank you. It's like calling someone who cant speak dumb. They arent dumb it's just the word for it.

    • @josh3306
      @josh3306 Před 3 lety +22

      well that’s how it was back in the day. i don’t think words like idiot, backwards and the naughty r word we’re used as insults back then they were just the words they used for words we have now like disabled or mentally ill

    • @kjs0391
      @kjs0391 Před 3 lety +1

      I know so stupid criminals who could live there.

    • @PichuFan4ever
      @PichuFan4ever Před 3 lety +5

      I literally did a double take when listening

  • @alkakapur6272
    @alkakapur6272 Před 3 lety +25

    Personally don’t think he did the third murder as he would have gone into detail

  • @honeyLBP
    @honeyLBP Před 3 lety +1590

    Me, an American, hearing 55 years was a record for the UK: 🧍🏻‍♀️

    • @ella3162
      @ella3162 Před 3 lety +258

      Oh yeah the US is like:
      "200 years :)"
      Looked it up... it's 5000

    • @sophielouise2284
      @sophielouise2284 Před 3 lety +214

      @@ella3162 the record was for 55 years in prison, not how long he was sentenced for, highly doubt someone in america lived to be over 200 in prison 🙃

    • @ella3162
      @ella3162 Před 3 lety +51

      @@sophielouise2284 well of course they wouldn't live that long that's just how much their charge adds up to.

    • @sophielouise2284
      @sophielouise2284 Před 3 lety +138

      @@ella3162 but then you're comparing two different things... The record for the US is 69 years in prison

    • @ella3162
      @ella3162 Před 3 lety +10

      @@sophielouise2284 ok

  • @bongwaterbae6804
    @bongwaterbae6804 Před 3 lety +689

    Him: murders a kid
    Also him: goes home and sleeps with his teddy RuPeRt

    • @jasperdent4363
      @jasperdent4363 Před 3 lety +22

      Adult Stewie really turned out awful 💀

    • @kurororikana
      @kurororikana Před 3 lety +11

      I just wanna say my dog who sadly passed in 2016 was called Rupert 🥺

    • @jasperdent4363
      @jasperdent4363 Před 3 lety +6

      @@kurororikana omg I’m so sorry to hear that, losing a pet is never easy 💗

    • @kurororikana
      @kurororikana Před 3 lety +2

      @@jasperdent4363 thank you it helps a lot (:

    • @jasperdent4363
      @jasperdent4363 Před 3 lety +1

      @@kurororikana Yw 💗😭

  • @zahrakay5430
    @zahrakay5430 Před 3 lety +26

    But if he didn’t kill the third girl, why did he say “I didn’t kill the girl on the bike”, like that’s suspicious. Another thing that didn’t make sense is that witnesses said that they’ve heard a little girl screaming at 7 pm and according to what is said on the video, by 7 pm he was already found and questioned. This means that he couldn’t even witness the crime or know about a little girl on the bike..

    • @tiredtransman
      @tiredtransman Před 2 lety +1

      the police could have made the confession up. Or maybe they were hinting at it really hard and he saw a girl on a bike and thought about it but didn't do it and realized the police were going at something.

  • @LadyGigglesnort
    @LadyGigglesnort Před 2 lety +14

    Can we also discuss the fact that the dependent had a black eye whilst being returned to Broadmoor.
    Did the leading questions turn into violence and he was unable to defend himself?
    No DNA. No fingerprints on the bike and sign of fingernails on the child's neck.
    However this child died it is so sad.

  • @laciloo5625
    @laciloo5625 Před 3 lety +222

    Police:
    Him: ..i jUsT tHiNk iTs FuNnY hOw

  • @queermilkshake9990
    @queermilkshake9990 Před 3 lety +152

    "55 years and 3 months, God I'm bad at my job". Never a more relatable phrase

  • @SarahLouiseDouglas
    @SarahLouiseDouglas Před 3 lety +9

    So I live in Hampshire and one of my friends lives on the estate just outside Broadmoor and honestly those alarms are chilling !! I have no idea how anyone lives round there.

  • @elliewhite8569
    @elliewhite8569 Před 2 lety +7

    The fact that she was out just picking flowers and that turned out as such a sad story is just heart breaking 💔😕

  • @kayttajaxxau4965
    @kayttajaxxau4965 Před 3 lety +848

    I was just thinking about Eleanor and then she posted wow

    • @user-hf2jg2gp6q
      @user-hf2jg2gp6q Před 3 lety +4

      Saamee

    • @rubymay6540
      @rubymay6540 Před 3 lety +5

      Same, I was just telling my mum about the Mary Bell murder that I watched on Eleanors channel earlier today!

    • @gia2691
      @gia2691 Před 3 lety

      i love these videos!

    • @Jax-AK
      @Jax-AK Před 3 lety +2

      I was watching an old video and I got the notification and I was like FRICK YES

    • @yourlocalgeminii
      @yourlocalgeminii Před 3 lety

      Same 😭

  • @wiggl3s_821
    @wiggl3s_821 Před 3 lety +736

    13 year old girl: He strangled and threatened to kill me!
    Police: ...
    13 year old girl: He strangled some chickens!
    Police: *BANG BANG BANG* FBI, OPEN UP! *Kicks the door down*

    • @ambitiously_
      @ambitiously_ Před 3 lety +57

      No, no. This is in the UK. It’s not the FBI it’s MI5. Handles all the serious poultry cases.

    • @wiggl3s_821
      @wiggl3s_821 Před 3 lety +10

      @@ambitiously_ true.

    • @annaelrick7930
      @annaelrick7930 Před 3 lety +5

      😂😂👌🏼

    • @bashfulbreloom9294
      @bashfulbreloom9294 Před 3 lety +1

      I like how you're trying to make fun of American police using a UK case.

    • @wiggl3s_821
      @wiggl3s_821 Před 3 lety +5

      @@bashfulbreloom9294 when was I trying to make fun of American police?

  • @jasmineemorales2746
    @jasmineemorales2746 Před 3 lety +77

    This is such a sad story. But I couldn't help but notice... Everyones seen Family Guy right? Is Stewies character possibly based off this guy? That would explain his English accent, his head, and why he's so close to Rupert (his teddy). Just something that clicked in my head, it could be.

  • @swearwolf.werewolf8049
    @swearwolf.werewolf8049 Před 3 lety +8

    There's a boarding school near Broadmoor for kids who struggle in traditional school environments that I went to - and the siren every week was so creepy. I remember having nightmares about it going off all the time. Fuckin creepy.

  • @valeriavelasco4230
    @valeriavelasco4230 Před 3 lety +934

    Why is no one talking about how STUNNING Eleanor looks?

    • @loserpotate6766
      @loserpotate6766 Před 3 lety +13

      bc this was posted 23 mins ago

    • @bethanydowson1017
      @bethanydowson1017 Před 3 lety +62

      LITERALLY every comment is talking about how stunning she is. She deserves every single one

    • @lordeagustin5578
      @lordeagustin5578 Před 3 lety +37

      That's all everyone is talking about lol

    • @kadeelacayo4806
      @kadeelacayo4806 Před 3 lety +19

      Literally everyone has and it was just posted

    • @blyssfulxx6128
      @blyssfulxx6128 Před 3 lety +3

      @@bethanydowson1017 this comment was before all the comments about how Eleanor looked came rushing in.

  • @quavehiphop9152
    @quavehiphop9152 Před 3 lety +252

    Police: Listen John it's okay if you go around strangling little girls we don't mind but don't be strangling our chickens that's when we get mad

    • @JazMegan
      @JazMegan Před 3 lety +14

      I think back then they didn't take threats as bad as they can be and must have presumed he wouldn't actually do anything but as soon as he killed 5 of her chickens they realised he's definitely capable of what he said.

  • @ellies4523
    @ellies4523 Před 3 lety +22

    The nail marks on lindas neck could be from her trying to get his hands off her

    • @tiredtransman
      @tiredtransman Před 2 lety +3

      wouldn't they mention his arms and hands being clawed at slightly, then?

  • @anakin2377
    @anakin2377 Před 2 lety +4

    I remember being at school and the broadmoor siren going off. We had to wait in school until we were picked up. Was really scary as a kid.

  • @suneblommie4549
    @suneblommie4549 Před 3 lety +226

    How sad that this little girl was expecting flowers and ended up like this... Five years old man😢

  • @ZolAkechi
    @ZolAkechi Před 3 lety +293

    That’s just so sad to know that his victims were so young and had barely been alive on this Earth and experienced life in general. :( rest easy, angels 💕

  • @shoujofanatic
    @shoujofanatic Před 3 lety +9

    The fact that he specifically asked about the scenario of someone escaping coming to the town and it being unsafe shows he knew it was wrong and why, also his escape plan was very well thought out, plus he had been cleaning for over a year and could have remembered to wipe down his fingerprints after moving the bike, I think the times were reported wrong and he was new to police questioning before but later learned not to outright confess like he did prior. Also the nail thing, maybe he stopped biting his nails for a while because he was confident in his escape, but started it up again once he got caught, I think there is a strong possibility that he was guilty.

  • @samanthaann975
    @samanthaann975 Před 3 lety +27

    I just don’t get, if some scared little girl came in and said to me “that grown man was strangling me.” I would walk over there and strangle him back.. but they are just like “hey kid, thanks for stopping by.. Here’s a lollipop?” I’m so saddened for her.

  • @heysaucemikehere1804
    @heysaucemikehere1804 Před 3 lety +352

    Little things like the fact that she gives content warnings, even though it means she might lose some views, are what makes Eleanor easily one of the best true crime youtubers on CZcams

    • @emmamckittrick977
      @emmamckittrick977 Před 3 lety +2

      Defo 👌

    • @lakuli7786
      @lakuli7786 Před 3 lety +6

      Yes, but there's also Bailey Sarian

    • @ltmily
      @ltmily Před 3 lety +4

      Omg yesss Bailey tooooo ^^

    • @imjinah4577
      @imjinah4577 Před 3 lety +3

      how would she lose views after giving content warning? bailey does it too

    • @mollykaye8949
      @mollykaye8949 Před 3 lety +4

      @@imjinah4577 because she says that so if someone's uncomfortable they can click out the video and she wouldn't get their view

  • @MandyBuglet
    @MandyBuglet Před 3 lety +214

    Him: "What would you do if I killed you?"
    Me: "Umm...die?"

  • @graceh7779
    @graceh7779 Před rokem +7

    Cant even imagine how that mother of the first 5 year-old must have felt after knowing she was frantically searching for her daughter while the killer just watched and walked away from behind💔

  • @Ohlookitsdaisyy
    @Ohlookitsdaisyy Před 2 lety +4

    I went to school close enough to Broadmoor to be able to hear the alarm every Monday morning and it would catch me out and send me jumping out my seat Every. Goddamn. Monday. It's a very important drill and it's amazing that they're still taking it this seriously but holy moly did it scare me like nothing else!

  • @MrAbovebeyond
    @MrAbovebeyond Před 3 lety +1137

    not enough of these comments are talking about how sad all these kids losing their life is. :( RIP

    • @the-qf2bv
      @the-qf2bv Před 3 lety +42

      ikr, alot of these comments are jokes about chickens or walnuts. :(

    • @debbieadams5315
      @debbieadams5315 Před 3 lety +46

      Its obvious it's sad and no one wished this on the poor children. Most people joke about things when something is sad. It's a coping mechanism

    • @sakurasfish2115
      @sakurasfish2115 Před 3 lety +12

      yeah but i think it's normal 1) because it's obvious, you don't comment the obvious but what called your attention and most didn't come here to mourn about victims anyway but to learn about the murderers. 2) it's not that relatable...unless you are very empathetic, have children, know or have been a victim yourself most ppl can't understand the gravity of these...like teens or ppl who never had any real lost

    • @gimmealargesalad
      @gimmealargesalad Před 3 lety +9

      Yeah, a lot of the comments are joking around and it's pretty disappointing. Eleanor even mentions a young girl being raped twice and murdered and the comments are still like "lmao chickens".

    • @sx4rymonsters
      @sx4rymonsters Před 3 lety +1

      mental illness can be so dangerous :(

  • @Gnomereginam
    @Gnomereginam Před 3 lety +454

    One does NOT simply strangle chickens and get away with it

  • @cicelymay508
    @cicelymay508 Před 3 lety +20

    My name is Cicely. I NEVER hear my name in stories and this REALLY creeped me out😩

  • @Idk-nj5ue
    @Idk-nj5ue Před 3 lety +3

    it’s been about 69 years or sm like that since these murders. I feel so bad for the kids who where murdered by him.

  • @ThatOneAshley
    @ThatOneAshley Před 3 lety +166

    Only in the 50s would you let a 9 year old go off watcha a whole movie alone

    • @backisayback5147
      @backisayback5147 Před 3 lety +13

      Actually 50’s,60’s,70’s,80’s and 90’s also sometime 2000’s it was really common. They just didn’t have murderers and serial killers they didn’t hear about it as much. They also had the ‘it won’t happen to us’ sorta thinking. Also it was safe to, it just isn’t the same anymore. It’s very different now. Times change

    • @Bringon-dw8dx
      @Bringon-dw8dx Před 3 lety +2

      My friends and I went to the cinema on our own at 9- and that was late 00’s

    • @GamingNat
      @GamingNat Před 3 lety +1

      @@Bringon-dw8dx I'm 18. When I was a kid I used to roam the neighborhood and go to the mall to watch movies that was a 30 minute walk away. I was no older that 8-9

    • @cb3514
      @cb3514 Před 3 lety +5

      I think it was the advent of worldwide 24/7 news cycle and social media that changed the mentality. It's a fairly new phenomena. Now we hear EVERYTHING from EVERYWHERE instantly, and it seems like evil is around the corner. It keeps us living in this heightened state of anxiety and fear. The reality is that in many areas crime today is lower than it ever was. Does that mean I'd let my kids wander out of my line of vision...lol no I'm too paranoid. However, my parents certainly didn't have the same fears with me and I DID have that freedom.

    • @Bringon-dw8dx
      @Bringon-dw8dx Před 3 lety +1

      @@cb3514 that’s exactly what my mum says she thinks the problem is. She always talks about how if you wanted to see the news when she was young you had to go buy a paper, if you didn’t want to read the paper you could easily have no contact with the news.
      I feel so grateful I was allowed to be free in the 00’s. the only kids I know that have that freedom now are other kids in my family

  • @thehappyhippo-_-
    @thehappyhippo-_- Před 3 lety +541

    Who would let their (young) daughter go out alone after another girl just was murdered in the area? Maybe it's the time, but I wouldn't let my children go out alone for quite some time after that..
    Edit: it has been pointed out that the times were really different back then. I understand, I just wrote this in the heat of the moment from my own perspective. I don't mean to be hurtful or ignorant (if it sounded that way). I also don't blame the parents, because actually thinking about it, I understand why they did what they did. I won't delete this because I hope others will also learn from this (so please read the replies!)

    • @DylanRomanov
      @DylanRomanov Před 3 lety +53

      It’s insane to think about letting a six year old by themselves, beyond murder there’s so things that could go wrong. But especially with a fresh child homicide.

    • @eviehnt
      @eviehnt Před 3 lety +36

      to be fair when i was a little girl i was fine to go out by myself even as young as 6 and i and just play on the street, so even back in the 2000s it was just so normal, i think it’s a relatively new thing for parents to be watching their children pretty much 24/7

    • @thehappyhippo-_-
      @thehappyhippo-_- Před 3 lety +15

      @@DylanRomanov yes, we weren't allowed until the age of around 11 to go out into the town (of 1200 people total) from our parents. There were of course certain exceptions, like going to a friend's house or going to school, but the playground was off limits if there wasn't any guardian (my parents/family or someone they trusted).
      I now understand why they did that, because our town is kinda known for drug stuff, so I'm thankful they kept us out of certain places at that age:)

    • @thehappyhippo-_-
      @thehappyhippo-_- Před 3 lety +5

      @@eviehnt my parents kept us pretty close😬

    • @ellietaylor9938
      @ellietaylor9938 Před 3 lety +24

      Part of it is the era. Very normal in the 50’s for kids to be out playing without a supervising adult. Part of it is also “oh it’ll never happen to us”.

  • @amandajay9058
    @amandajay9058 Před rokem +2

    Can you please cover the Deorr Kunz case? There are so many theories as to what happened to him and 2 Private Investigators both have different opinions as to the guilt/innocence of his parents! It's worth a look and I think you'll find it fascinating. Keep up the great work!

  • @NorthernGreenEyes
    @NorthernGreenEyes Před 3 lety +5

    Wow! This was one of most tragic yet interesting ones yet!
    I really dig all the historical info such as the Broodmoore siren, the locations in more detail etc.
    Well done,Eleanor! 🖤

  • @emsunbum
    @emsunbum Před 3 lety +105

    okay but the fact that so many people were kind enough to have tea with a complete stranger lmaooo

  • @KO-ov6kg
    @KO-ov6kg Před 3 lety +300

    He likely had bacterial meningitis, endemic in India and brain damage is a side effect of surviving it. I disagree that he did not know right from wrong. A 10 year old knows right from wrong. He understood killing meant going to jail, he understood that clearly. Back in the '50s they did not have the language or neuropsychiatry we have today. It's not like he encountered situations where he lost his temper and acted out in rage, he hunted just like every other serial killer, he had a victimology, he had a method and not having a motive for killing does not mean you aren't capable of knowing killing is wrong.

    • @dx4618
      @dx4618 Před 3 lety +22

      Exactly, thank you! 10 year-olds - and therefore those with that level of mental capacity, too - DEFINITELY know right from wrong and they know that murder is wrong. What it sounds like to me is that he didn't have the capacity for empathy, not understanding of right and wrong. It seems like he had a similar pathology to that of a psychopath or sociopath, something in that neighborhood. In fact, even certain types of Autism lead to the individual having dimished empathy, too, so it might have even been that instead. And while no one is at fault for the way their brain is wired, we are all equally responsible for our actions and we must all be held equally accountable for our wrongdoing, and certainly for any crimes.

    • @fruitygarlic3601
      @fruitygarlic3601 Před 3 lety +11

      And we're accepting that he had the mentality of a 10 year-old by IQ, which today still has some worrying pitfalls in "objectively" measuring the nuances of intelligence. His developmental variations do not make him incapable of knowing why violence is unacceptable, the same way 10 year-old children understand malicious violence.

    • @mykarma4345
      @mykarma4345 Před 3 lety +4

      exactly what i thought, tuberculosis was endemic in India at that time and tuberculous meningitis is a common presentation.

    • @tintomara6209
      @tintomara6209 Před 3 lety +5

      And showed levels of planning and calculation

    • @Arckivio
      @Arckivio Před 3 lety +12

      I'm assuming that if you, or any other people that have commented on your post, have children around 10 years old that you let them make all the big decisions? Bedtime, sex, whether they want to go to school or just stay home & play PS4, you let them decide that fast food is ok as a balanced diet? I would hope that you don't as they do not understand the long term consequences of any of the above & also, are not even programmed to care yet. Neither do they understand the finality of death, by their hands or anyone elses or what going to jail really means!!!! It's no different than silly teens risking their life for a tik tok video that a wiser adult would not do! A 2 year old or a dog knows right from wrong but that doesn't mean they understand why it is wrong or the consequences. I love it when people suddenly decide to bestow all this intellect on children to facilitate their thirst for a weird revenge!!! Unfortunately it's usually Americans as can be seen by their justice system that even condems sub adults to death to placate the ignorant masses!!!

  • @rebekahdawn2352
    @rebekahdawn2352 Před 3 lety +2

    obsessed with your content! Where i work at i have to listen to media via an mp3 player, it really helps me get through my work weeks! I appreciate your channel!! Thank you for spreading awareness to these cases that aren't so popular. And letting all the victim's names be heard!

  • @shiloh1306
    @shiloh1306 Před 3 lety +17

    Him: Hurts the poor girl
    Police: Baby I'm not even here
    Him: Assaults the chickens
    Police: Oh baby Nah that ain't gon work

  • @brie811
    @brie811 Před 3 lety +319

    It is super suspicious that he said that out loud. He was so confident to confess to the first 2. I think it's possible the family saw their chance and took it. Maybe he heard somebody mention it or possibly seen the little girl sometime when he was out. But to outright deny that he did it...? Didn't seem like him.. In a weird way. Also, the nails are a super suspicious clue. I feel like the cops seen an easy out for this little girls murder and didn't even bother to really look into it. It all seems off.

    • @mayaaa5448
      @mayaaa5448 Před 3 lety +22

      also the timeline doesnt match up

    • @thebunny8826
      @thebunny8826 Před 3 lety +24

      Maybe they said "oh have you seen the little girl on the bike" or somthing like that so he said I didn't kill her cuz its not the first time police question him for murdring a little girl

    • @L1zili
      @L1zili Před 3 lety +1

      @@thebunny8826 but she said the police didn’t say a thing about the little girl, still I don’t think he killed the 3 victim

    • @Odette321
      @Odette321 Před 3 lety +1

      I believe he did it. It was his MO to kill a little girl in a meadow. He was in the meadow where her body was found too. I think he knew he could be given the death penalty if he confessed to killing another child so he lied rather than being taken out of the mental institution where he had a chance to live. I don't think he was as immature mentally as people thought and was more of a psychopath.

    • @tiredtransman
      @tiredtransman Před 2 lety +13

      @Eye-Bone JoMabefojosis It doesn't match up. People in this thread are not mentioning that it is possible the police lied to cover for a friend. Like what if her father killed her and then staged it after having heard the guy escaped. And then the police just make the interview up so that they can cover for their friend who "really is a good guy, just going through a hard time," or some shit like that.

  • @korettopun1203
    @korettopun1203 Před 3 lety +64

    Tbh I wouldn’t let my 9-year-old child go to a cinema by herself after such a horrible thing had happened to another child not far away

    • @hannahstolzer2085
      @hannahstolzer2085 Před 3 lety +1

      Until I was like 14 the only place I could be without an adult was the gated and guarded community I lived in.

  • @sallykohorst8803
    @sallykohorst8803 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This is an older video i missed so watching it now. Really happy with your presentation of the cases

  • @stephanniestarr717
    @stephanniestarr717 Před 2 lety +6

    Hello, Eleanor, I hope you are well and having a happy new year. You do such a good job with your videos. Your research seems extensive, and your passion, enthusiasm, and empathy are evident. Keep up the great work. l look forward to the next video. :D

  • @emmamcginley5121
    @emmamcginley5121 Před 3 lety +315

    I feel like maybe the “I didn’t kill the little girl” statement could have been misconstrued by the police to be a confession. Even with his young mental age, John had experience with police and knew that they were trying to pull a confession from him. If Linda was the only little girl in the neighborhood, maybe he saw her playing and kept running from broadmoor? With the other two girls he had prolonged interaction with them and decided after a while to kill them. I don’t think he would have seen a child while he was fleeing the hospital, decided to kill her immediately, and then kept going.
    Just my two cents.

    • @sammya5286
      @sammya5286 Před 3 lety +33

      Just finished it and I was going to say the same thing. If I was investigating this case I’d stop and have another look before blaming anyone. The reason is appeal was probably denied is police don’t like saying they or previous generations of them have made a mistake. This wouldn’t be a wrong ruling from the court this would be a wrong murder charge from police.
      After the conspiracy theory given I do think it’s very possible her parents or even siblings could have something to do with it and shouldn’t be discounted.

    • @suddentears13
      @suddentears13 Před 3 lety +28

      I was thinking he may have seen her body while he was on the run and knew that the police would try to pin it on him. Although, that wouldn't quite line up with the neighbors hearing screaming at 7 or the parents claiming she was missing since 6. Then again, the scream could of been unconnected completely and if you're going to theorize that the parents killed her that shines doubt on their entire story

    • @emmamcginley5121
      @emmamcginley5121 Před 3 lety +7

      @@suddentears13 I thought of that too but the time discrepancy kind of nulls that theory for me.

    • @21_f_aus
      @21_f_aus Před 3 lety +25

      I think it's possible, her parents or someone they knew killed her, if he was caught by 6, and she wasn't seen since 6 how could have possibly done it? and then neighbours hearing a girl scream at 7 if he was in custody at the time he couldn't have, but I'm not ruling him out of that completely, but I do think he may have saw that little girl riding her bike which made him make that remark, or the police lied about him saying such thing just to pin him... nevertheless he went down for a murder he may not have committed and if he was indeed innocent there's no way they'll get justice for that girls murder...

    • @serotoninbernie1283
      @serotoninbernie1283 Před 3 lety +11

      i would argue that your point is valid, all his other murders seemed to be opportunities rather than planned. i don’t know what you could say to lure a child on her bike towards a field, it just doesn’t make sense. the flowers did, and so did the movies (to some degree)

  • @That_Name_is_Taken
    @That_Name_is_Taken Před 3 lety +120

    I love how respectful Elenor is when talking about these cases. I just thought that should be mentioned

  • @sleepysadpoet
    @sleepysadpoet Před rokem +3

    The police: - breathing -
    Him: *and I took that personally*

  • @emilyslicer2843
    @emilyslicer2843 Před 2 lety +2

    so somehow i missed this video when it came out last year but i almost had a heart attack at how gorgeous eleanor looks in this. the thick eyeliner really brings out her eyes

  • @lordeagustin5578
    @lordeagustin5578 Před 3 lety +441

    It's only 25 minutes in and everybody's talkin by her makeup instead of the case.

    • @littlechewisex3783
      @littlechewisex3783 Před 3 lety +55

      Calm down... not every comment has to be about the case... we can also compliment the beauty guru

    • @Laura-or1rp
      @Laura-or1rp Před 3 lety +57

      Lol, it’s mainly because they’re so early that they haven’t watched the whole video so they can say anything about it :))

    • @vasectomy_
      @vasectomy_ Před 3 lety +30

      well obviously if people haven’t finished the video they can’t talk about the case..

    • @Jilly-Sammy-Bean
      @Jilly-Sammy-Bean Před 3 lety +6

      Calm down

    • @littlechewisex3783
      @littlechewisex3783 Před 3 lety +21

      @Jennifer Astle their not angry perse, the comment just visibly displays their pure annoyance over something that isn’t that deep

  • @user-ju8sy2pd8h
    @user-ju8sy2pd8h Před 3 lety +370

    The parents of Linda seem very suspicious but how did John know that she was on a bike?

    • @cb3514
      @cb3514 Před 3 lety +114

      I would imagine he DID see that little girl while he was on the run. We also don't know the leading questions police were asking, but we DO know he felt strongly that police always targeted him for no reason. He could have just yelled it feeling indignant because he really didn't do it, and assumed police were going to say something like that because of his previous crimes. His lack of confession just doesn't fit with his history of previous crimes.

    • @user-ju8sy2pd8h
      @user-ju8sy2pd8h Před 3 lety +44

      @@cb3514 that makes so much sense. He has a history of confessing to crimes when guilty. If the parents took this as an opportunity to murder their own child, they’re just pure evil.

    • @fersaid1582
      @fersaid1582 Před 3 lety +57

      He probably saw her around riding her bike, I mean, he was taking his sweet time enjoying every nearby town.
      Also, it's just so weird that he would confess to those previous murders and keep denying the last one till death, it makes no sense at all.
      And as someone already said, we don't know exactly what police were asking him, but they were implying that he did kill her, so it's very possible that he got offended at what they were hinting and decided to deny it beforehand.

    • @morbiusofletoverse456
      @morbiusofletoverse456 Před 3 lety +36

      @@fersaid1582 There was a statement from a person who worked at broadmoor at the time that said he was given the newspaper on the morning just before his interrogation so he knew about the girl on the bike being killed.

    • @Diordollies.
      @Diordollies. Před 3 lety +14

      @@user-ju8sy2pd8h personally i think it was either the parents or a copy cat killer.

  • @jadewarnes3659
    @jadewarnes3659 Před 3 lety +1

    I grew up in one of the towns surrounding Broadmoor Hospital and still only live 2 miles away.
    From the age of 11-18 every Monday at 10am I would hear the sirens from my school. They test them weekly. I would occasionally hear the sirens at the train station when I started working in London and caught the 10am train and in a weird way it feels comforting... maybe just nostalgia? 🤣
    It comes up so often in cases yet surprises me how close it is to home each time! They stopped using them in 2018 but some of the sirens still stand.
    Love your vids ❤️

  • @topsi91
    @topsi91 Před 3 lety +1

    I really enjoy how you tell the stories, they make so much sense this way. And about this story in particular - poor children :(

  • @abigailreay8196
    @abigailreay8196 Před 3 lety +100

    when eleanor uploads, i drop everything to watch her

  • @hedgehoglover1154
    @hedgehoglover1154 Před 3 lety +237

    HOW ARE YOU SO PRETTY?? WHAT-

    • @recluseren
      @recluseren Před 3 lety +10

      I was like "aw man she looks so pretty in the thumbnail" then clicked and I'm like "oh she's HOT hot"

    • @Jax-AK
      @Jax-AK Před 3 lety +11

      @@recluseren3 good things about Eleanor 1: she’s lgbtqia+ 2: she makes amazing videos 3: I get to look at how pretty she is

    • @recluseren
      @recluseren Před 3 lety +7

      @@Jax-AK yesss lmao my little bi heart is torn between wanting to marry her and wanting to be her best friend bc she might not like me like that and that's ok

    • @Jax-AK
      @Jax-AK Před 3 lety +3

      @@recluseren *Cri* me too but I’m questioning if I even like men or not (I think I don’t)

    • @recluseren
      @recluseren Před 3 lety +3

      @@Jax-AK that's cool! it's okay not to know, labels can help u or hurt u, but I wish you luck on your journey

  • @sabidaqueen4111
    @sabidaqueen4111 Před 3 lety +5

    Somebody give this girl a Netflix show 🖤

  • @emmanueljackson1889
    @emmanueljackson1889 Před 3 lety +2

    How kind and trusting are those people that let him in for a drink or a cuppa.

  • @Solxtia
    @Solxtia Před 3 lety +75

    reading the “escape” in the title makes me shiver

  • @marie-evepomerleau4476
    @marie-evepomerleau4476 Před 3 lety +9

    Can you imagine if it really was her parents that killed the last girl and they got away with it ugh

  • @gloverdragon6854
    @gloverdragon6854 Před 3 lety +3

    Finding out that the Christine butcher girl was a huge boxing fan and a fan of the legendary Sugar Ray Robinson (said to be the greatest pugilist of all times) makes this even more heart breaking.

  • @erstwhileresonance
    @erstwhileresonance Před 3 lety +326

    I personally think that he did not kill Linda (or whoever was riding the bike)and it was Linda's parents because of the following reasons.
    - His fingerprints were not on the bike and he did not have gloves
    - John was in custody by the time the screams were heard
    - He was so open about the killings of the other two murders
    - The parents are hella suspicious
    - The parents didn't call the police until 5 hours after she went missing
    - If John had killed Linda and he already had a life sentence we would have admitted to the murder by then
    I also feel like the parents got him involved in the murder or maybe he saw it, thats the only part 8m a bit confused about.

    • @fareehazaman
      @fareehazaman Před 3 lety +38

      Right but like why did he say he didn’t kill the little girl on the bike when no one knew abt it yet?

    • @jessicaaustin2556
      @jessicaaustin2556 Před 3 lety +32

      However how did he know about the girls murder and the bike??? That’s the only part that puzzles me.

    • @pamelaholmes1533
      @pamelaholmes1533 Před 3 lety +23

      maybe he saw the little girl on her bike but never killed her he was mentally the age of a child and was so open about killing those other girls he didn't deny it it is extremely strange that is wasn't until 5 hours went past they reported her missing that on its own sends alarm bells ringing he was a vile monster there is no denying that but to convict him if he did not kill her is wrong

    • @luzvazquez4189
      @luzvazquez4189 Před 3 lety +48

      @@fareehazaman a) police lied and he actually never said that, b) he saw her and figured out what the leading questions were in relation to because policed messed up and actually said something that hinted at it or c) he saw her, he witnessed something suspicious or some abuse and when he heard the leading questions he figured what happened and that police was trying to frame him.

    • @Grim_scene
      @Grim_scene Před 3 lety +17

      And his mindset was only of a 10-year-old how could even plan to take gloves with him and hide evidence or even to throw the bike somewhere else when he left the crime scene the same in all the other crimes

  • @queencourtney8689
    @queencourtney8689 Před 3 lety +76

    So I really don’t know if you will see this, but I really want you to cover the case of Zahra Baker. She was a ten year old girl who had cancer hearing problems and a prosthetic leg born in Australia but moved to North Carolina near my home town. I remember being a child watching all of the updates, and I will never forget how heart broken I was once she was found, murdered in such a horrific and brutal way (not even police know the real cause of death) Truly made me realize at such a young age how unsafe this world truly is.

    • @DreamPinkClouds
      @DreamPinkClouds Před 3 lety +6

      Omg I looked it up & damn. that Poor child :( To be dealing with so much at such a young age and then killed so gruesomely & dismembered by her step mother!!!! Just so sad. Im glad that evil woman is in prison, hopefully for the rest of her miserable life.!

    • @Jezbel1466
      @Jezbel1466 Před 2 lety +2

      Yes, I remember that case as well. I still feel that the bio Dad should’ve been charged with something. He allowed that Step mother to have complete control over little Zahra… and turned a blind eye to her being abused.

  • @rubycaltenco247
    @rubycaltenco247 Před rokem +4

    I was listening to the entire crime case but what keep getting me distracted was how one side of her hair was more curly then the other side 😂

  • @Vougeforzady
    @Vougeforzady Před 3 lety +6

    Me and my mum love watching your vids. They're so much better than the documentaries that me and my mum watch! Keep it up :D

  • @maddy3821
    @maddy3821 Před 3 lety +136

    You guys are talking about her makeup and obviously it’s amazing but like he escaped and was just like “can I have tea” and these people at their doors were just like “eh seems fair enough come inside my house stranger I don’t know” ????

    • @hannahs6545
      @hannahs6545 Před 3 lety +23

      Times were different back then it wouldn’t have been that weird

    • @lemonzest_
      @lemonzest_ Před 3 lety +4

      My mom let a strange man in the other day. He was asking to use the bathroom..

    • @miriam.sanderc
      @miriam.sanderc Před 3 lety +3

      Ok but I think we're getting better cause there was a study that showed how boomers were surprised that millennials wouldn't awenser the door unless they knew them

    • @karo7385
      @karo7385 Před 3 lety +3

      it was normal back then x

  • @percyhadez
    @percyhadez Před 3 lety +69

    he confessed to basically every other crime he committed, so i’m more inclined to believe the cops were trying to coerce him to confess and he got annoyed. plus the timeline just doesn’t add up.

    • @cb3514
      @cb3514 Před 3 lety +19

      Yeah, I'm with you. It doesn't sit right with me, and it makes me really uneasy thinking a murderer very well may have gotten away with killing this little girl. It's very possible he saw the little girl on her bike while he was on the run, and assumed the police would say he did something because he assumed they were always after him anyway.